Open Mic Night with Kris
December 18, 2008
Kris opens up the show to allow listeners a chance to ask questions that they normally wouldn’t have the opportunity to ask. During this show, Kris made a small presentation on tithing and then answered question on Ma’at, Language and communication, recurring dreams and on his tithing presentation.
Podcast: Download (56.4MB)
RBD: Open Mic Night with Kris
December 18, 2008
Kris Chronicles Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois
Transcribed by Dorothy Franklin (Ellora)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on December 18, 2008
MARK: Good evening and welcome to Kris … Reality by Design here on That Radio and ThatChannel.com.
SERGE: You meant crispy Reality by Design, right?
MARK: [Laughing] My name is Mark Bukator and I am co-hosting tonight along with John Hawkins.
JOHN: Yes, this is Johnny, and this is Kris: Reality by Design. I guess that’s . . .
SERGE: That sums it right up.
JOHN: . . . the new name. And of course we are graced by the presence of our friend Serge.
SERGE: Thank you, John. Thank you, Mark.
MARK: And I believe we have Alan. No. Coming in shortly.
JOHN: Comin’ round the mountain. So what’s been going on, boys? Have you been to Mexico lately?
[Mark laughs.]
JOHN: Or are we all over that now?
MARK: We’re all over that.
JOHN: You’re just about back to bein’ white boys again.
MARK: Oh, exactly. And especially with this Toronto weather. Starting tomorrow, for the next four days, we’re expecting a whole series of winter storms to dump a whole lot of white stuff on us. We’ve been shovelin’ it.
JOHN: Well I’ll just tell ya from my experience, they often promise more than they can deliver. I think honestly they sort of . . . the weather people take the worst case scenario and then they go with that because, you know, no one can ever say “You didn’t say it was gonna’ be bad.”
MARK: But they also, they’re tracking the storm. But Toronto, being a major city and where we’re located on the lake, the storms usually bypass us because we have the lake effect, the warming. But if you’re at the Hamilton end of the lake for instance, you get it big-time. So we’re just lucky.
JOHN: Well I’m the snow-shoveller in our household. So I appreciate it when we don’t get the snow. Who shovels the snow at your house?
MARK: I do. But I’m not the only one. I’ve got other helpers.
SERGE: I just wait for the sun to melt it.
[Laughter.]
JOHN: Well that’s gonna’ work eventually. [Alan could be heard laughing in the background.] I hear Alan.
MARK: I hear that giggle.
ALAN: Hey guys. How are ya?
MARK: Good. Yourself?
ALAN: Well I was just thinkin’, it’s a lot better to shovel the white stuff than the brown stuff.
MARK: True.
[Laughter.]
SERGE: Nobody wants to do that.
MARK: Well this is our last radio show of the year. We’re going to be on hiatus for the next two Thursdays, which is Christmas and New Year’s. And we will be back on the air January 8th.
JOHN: Lovely. Nice to have a little break. Are they gonna’ play reruns?
MARK: I don’t know. [To Hugh] Are they going to play reruns?
HUGH: Yes, we will.
MARK: Sweet.
HUGH: We’ll be following the schedule as normal, but we’ll just be running reruns ‘til January.
JOHN: Great stuff.
MARK: I have a very special announcement to make. I have been working with my web designer and effective 2009, Reality by Design and the Kris Chronicles audio files will be available for download from iTunes for free.
JOHN: For free?
MARK: Yeah.
JOHN: For free?
MARK: For free. You can go to iTunes and look for the Kris Chronicles pod casts and download them right to your media player or your computer through iTunes.
JOHN: Oh. How’d you manage that?
MARK: I’m great. I’m good at what I do.
[Laughter.]
JOHN: Plus the fact that iTunes is hungry for media and will publish anything.
MARK: [Laughing.] That’s not true.
[Laughter.]
SERGE: They’ll publish anything we put in.
MARK: [Laughing.] Yeah.
[Laughter.]
MARK: No, I’ve done the . . . I’ve been doing my homework and . . .
JOHN: Good for you.
MARK: . . . and doing what I do best . . .
JOHN: Wonderful.
MARK: . . . trying to get us out there in as many forms and make it as easy for people out there to pick up the Kris Chronicles and the Reality by Design and we will be broadcasting from iTunes.
JOHN: Spectacular.
MARK: And the great thing is . . .
ALAN: Are you gonna’ be able to do the radio show live?
MARK: It won’t be live, no.
ALAN: Won’t be streaming then, okay.
MARK: No. It’s a pod cast. And the beauty is you can set it up as an automatic feed, so it automatically, when you open iTunes, it automatically picks up all the new shows.
SERGE: Yep.
MARK: So that’s my wonderful news.
JOHN: Oh, well done.
MARK: Now, something else I’d like to talk to everybody about is Facebook.
JOHN: Oh yes.
MARK: John and I both have Facebook pages. And we would invite anybody who has a Facebook account to ask us to be your friends, invite us to be your friends, because we would love to have you as friends.
SERGE: John’s is specifically Kris Chronicles, right?
MARK: No.
JOHN: I, well on my Facebook page . . .
SERGE: Oh, okay.
JOHN: . . . I have created a group.
SERGE: Oh, okay. I see.
JOHN: And it’s a group anyone can join. And it’s called Kris Chronicles discussion and sharing. We’re kind of re-purposing the group that I originally started up with Alan because it looks like it’s not gonna’ work for what we had originally intended for. So I figure why not have a group on Facebook, which has literally, I think, hundreds of millions of people who are members of that, who have access to a discussion forum about Kris. And I’d be happy to, it’s on my page, I can sort of keep an eye on it and see where that goes.
MARK: If you have a Facebook page look for John Hawkins in Toronto and Mark Bukator in Toronto and definitely invite us to be your friends and we will accept you wholeheartedly.
JOHN: Or you can do a search in “groups” . . .
MARK: Yeah.
JOHN: . . . for Kris Chronicles.
MARK: Sweet. Also, this coming Sunday is the last CMI of the year, not of the phase, but of this year. There will be two more in January. So, noon this Sunday. And tonight is an Open Mike, so I hope there are lots of questions out there.
JOHN: How is it lookin’ on Skype there, Alan? Are you getting some people?
ALAN: Well we had a bunch of questions and commentary after last week’s show. Looks like we got a bunch of people that are lit up, but nobody’s posting yet.
JOHN: Ahh. Well, we have a number of questions here . . .
MARK: A few.
JOHN: . . . lying in wait in case there are no immediate questions.
ALAN: Oh I doubt if we’ll be at a loss for material.
JOHN: No. Well I find that I can just about always think of a question.
MARK: Yeah, that’s true. It amazes me how you can do that.
JOHN: Well I just look at my life and say “Huh?”
[Laughter.]
KRIS: Now we trust that you are comfortable.
MARK: Yes, thank you.
KRIS: And we thank you for your questioning consideration.
MARK: Thank you.
KRIS: Notice we did not say questionable.
[Laughter.]
KRIS: Now the question is “Where do you want to go from here?”
MARK: Oh, I was hoping that you would make that call.
JOHN: Yeah. Is there anything that’s top of mind for you this evening, Kris, before we get into the prepared questions?
KRIS: Indeed. A very small topic but one that can bring not only interesting but even dramatic changes to an individual’s life. And the topic is tithing. Are you familiar with that word?
JOHN: Yes. Tithing means giving ten percent, or whatever, of your goods to charity or the church or whatever.
MARK: Giving back to the community.
KRIS: Indeed. It actually implies much more than that because the physical action itself also incorporates a great deal of energetic action of intent. And tithing is not, nor has ever been meant to be, an obligation, but rather an offering of the heart and the mind. And it can even become a fascinating conscious creation challenge. As you know, we like challenges, not only those presented to ourselves. But we often like to challenge in return. Which, in a way, is a form of tithing as well.
JOHN: [Laughing.] Oh, okay.
KRIS: The point is that there are many individuals that are in positions to offer even a small portion of the energy they hold dear in the form of monies. There are just as many individuals who often fear that if they share or let go, even of a small portion of it, they will end up on the “lack of” side of the equation. The very thinking itself already puts one on the “lack of” side of the equation. Now what we are proposing then can help change, reverse, that situation, to go from the “lack” side of the equation to the “plus” side of the equation. Now you know, as well as most other individuals, that for the most part, in terms of your world, if you put nothing towards, you get nothing back.
JOHN: Right.
KRIS: If you put something towards, then you get something back.
JOHN: Um-hmm.
KRIS: So the idea is to put your highest intention in the form of a small tithe and watch what returns. For example there are many, many individuals who enjoy reading materials such as produced by ourselves or other teachers. And such individuals would benefit even more, that read the material, to tithe because the universe always gives back. You are accustomed, in terms of the Law of Attractions, that vibration brings vibration.
JOHN: Right.
KRIS: So if your intent is vibrationally towards that of a tithe, what do you think returns?
JOHN: A wonderful confirmation and reflection of that where the universe tithes to you.
KRIS: Indeed. So our humble offering then, is for those of you who enjoy and derive benefits from the material produced by Philip and Joseph, even the tithing of a few dollars can bring ten times back to you what you give. Imagine then, if you give one dollar, somewhere along the line the universe gives you ten times that amount. That is a far better investment than any savings and loans can offer you, since right now, most savings and loans are money pits. The universe is not a money pit. The universe brings back on interest, and then some.
JOHN: Um-hmm. Well that’s a nice challenge.
KRIS: So our challenge then is to put it to the test. And we have always maintained that you should never simply accept what we say nor take it for granted. Put it to the test. Make a tithe and see what the universe brings back. And if you enjoy the exchange then increase not only the tithe, but the value of its returns for yourself. How does that grab you?
MARK: That’s definitely incentive.
KRIS: Indeed.
JOHN: I like it. And you know, I just did some math here quickly. And if the universe gives you back ten times, then let’s say that you let that ride. And in fact, if you gave away everything that you had, that would be a darned good strategy because you’d get ten times back. You’d get that all back. Soon you’d, you know, you ‘d own the whole universe.
KRIS: You already do.
JOHN: I know. That’s the funny part, isn’t it? [Laughing.]
KRIS: Now that is our humble challenge for the holidays as an experiment in conscious creation.
JOHN: Oh, okay.
KRIS: Put it to the test.
MARK: Cool.
KRIS: Now we believe that . . . [Alan interrupts Kris.]
ALAN: Well guys that . . .
KRIS: . . . you have inquiries.
MARK: Yes.
KRIS: Please proceed.
MARK: Alan, go ahead.
KRIS: Skype-boss?
ALAN: [Laughing.] Well, thanks. Just quickly, Dave made a comment about the tithing that he really perceives there’s a difference between the idea of just simply giving from the heart and the idea of giving with the expectation of getting something back. And that one doesn’t seem quite right to him.
KRIS: Then, for the individual in question, simply give from the heart. However another gives is their concern.
JOHN: Yes.
KRIS: Either way, the universe still brings returns. The universe always offers.
JOHN: Hmm. Yes. The . . . I just wanted to bring our attention to the fact that Kris did stress that we should give our highest intention and a small tithe. Right?
KRIS: Indeed.
JOHN: Now my idea of highest intention is that it’s all that stuff straight from the heart and then some, as opposed to some kind of calculation. I, honestly, I admit to doing the calculation, for fun. [Laughing.]
KRIS: Indeed. Now if, for instance, you decide to take out your trusty calculator and crunch numbers before you offer a tithe, you may still get something back. But it may be in a form different than what you expect, because the universe will give what you need, not necessarily what you think you want. Does that make sense to you?
MARK: Yes, absolutely.
KRIS: Indeed. Please proceed.
MARK: Okay. I’m going to start here with a question from Dorothy. And she’s asking about the Ma’at state. And as Kris, as you described it, it seems to Dorothy that this state is very similar to the Witness State, where one simply witnesses that which is occurring, or has occurred, without putting any judgment call on the experience. It simply is. Is there a difference between the two?
KRIS: Indeed. We would venture to say, as an offering to you, that the Witness State is a very good state to be in, and is initially a stepping stone to the Ma’at State. The Witness State is meant to offer no judgment. It is meant to offer an, how do we say, compassionate view. And it can easily lead to the Ma’at State. The Ma’at State is directly a manifestation of value fulfillment. It does more than simple “witnessing”, which in itself is also valid. But the Ma’at State encompasses a far greater . . . We are looking for a word . . . representation of selfhood than the Witness State. And our point is that you will notice yourself in Witness mode. Who is doing the witnessing of the witness? That indeed implies the potential of that third state. The Witness State itself then becomes a stepping-stone to the discovery of even more of the self than you have at the present. Does that make sense?
JOHN: Sure.
MARK: I think so. So it’s encompassing the Witness State as well.
KRIS: Indeed.
MARK: Seeing the value in every exchange whether we, as a focus, judge it negative or not.
KRIS: In the Witness State the attempt is to be as impartial and non-judgmental as possible.
MARK: Um-hmm.
KRIS: The Ma’at State also offers those reflections but that much more in terms of a life-long experience of value fulfillment that even spans different lifetimes. That is some of the more long-term goals of utilizing the Ma’at State.
MARK: The way I sort of see that is, for instance, let’s take money. As Essence we may want to understand the concept of wealth. So we may create a focus where there’s abundance, a focus where there’s a lack, and many focuses where there’s all the stages in between. And the Ma’at State can look at all of those and take the value of understanding the whole concept of wealth by observing all those different experiences.
KRIS: We can say that the typical understandings of the Witness State are that it is slightly removed from immediate and direct sensory involvement in experience. And it offers an opportunity to gaze at the experience without any form of judgmentalism. The Ma’at State embraces both states previous, and can expand into variations on the theme, but that encompasses so much more aspects of the Self. Do you follow?
MARK: Yes, I do.
KRIS: Indeed.
MARK: Thank you. That’s very good. Alan? How about you?
ALAN: Well I can try to make a segue here because Ma’at, of course, being this Ancient Egyptian concept, and possibly before that. And I want to pick up on something that Tom Sherlock posted last week and maybe expand on it a little bit. Because Tom was thinking in terms of whether or not that we, as a, let’s say a race on this planet such as the ancient Vedic race, or whoever we may have been, if there was a common language at that time. In other words, did our species start out anywhere on Earth with a common language and did it kind of separate from there? Because one of the things that I think comes up is, Kris, as we all know, yourselves had mentioned many times the importance of language and the use of words, things like negative self-talk and positive self-talk. And I kind of get the idea here that regardless of what language you speak all of these things are still important. And if the language you speak makes no difference, then what are the elements that, what is the inner structure that underlies these language forms of expression we use? And if there is such of an inner structure, how do we align ourselves with it?
KRIS: We dare say that the allotted time for the show does not necessarily permit ourselves to venture into the engineering of human language at that layer. Suffice it to say that the languages that you utilize in your world at this time, and there are many different ones, but they all stem from an interesting root. Now there is a common language that stems from yourselves prior to physical expression as Orodin. You could say that telepathy is the local method of expression in this sector of the galaxy, so to speak. But you have, for the most part, a Hollywood version or understanding of telepathy. And that is a bit misleading in itself.
Various languages were born simultaneously when humankind began materializing from the Dream State into physical reality. The method of communication prior to physical expression in that way, involved an exchange of . . . This is very difficult to put into your words. But you could say, exchanges of forms that to you would look like geometric expressions but that contain every single facet of the subject matter. As we have explained at one time or another, to utilize your common vernacular, we can show you an orange and try to explain to you the qualities of the color, of the shape, the texture, the smell and the taste of the fruit. Correct?
MARK: That’s true.
KRIS: Is Skype still on line?
ALAN: Yeah. Still here.
KRIS: Indeed. Now in the Orodin State, the communication would involve far more than the orange. But it will involve every stage from pollination to fruit, from fruit to tree to orchard, to every type of orange anywhere, conceptually or otherwise, every nuance of orange possible, both in terms of color, in terms of fruit, edible or not, in terms of the hundreds of nuances of flavors of oranges and tastes, and so on and so forth. It would be a complete concept. Does that make some sense to you?
JOHN: Yeah. And all of this in geometric forms. I’m getting . . .
MARK: Instantaneously.
JOHN: Yeah.
KRIS: Indeed.
MARK: So the whole, the whole quality of orange-ness would be communicated.
KRIS: Indeed. Instantly. And the so-described geometric forms is simply a, you could say, package that contains the concept of orange. And it is not limited to the fruit. But you also have orange vegetables. You also orange stones. And anything else, including sunsets. So these would all be segued into the concept.
JOHN: Do you know, it almost seems to me as though everything, I mean, in a way, in a way it sounds like, I mean, you’d have to have Florida in there. You’d have to have . . . you know . . . Anita Bryant would have to be in there.
[Laughter.]
ALAN: Oh, no.
JOHN: Everything that ever happened around orange-ness. So in a way I’m getting the feeling that the, it’s the entire, the entirety of physic . . .
MARK: The entire idea-concept of orange.
JOHN: But the whole universe, the whole physical universe from the perspective of orange-ness.
KRIS: Indeed.
JOHN: Yeah.
KRIS: That is at the level of Orodin.
JOHN: Right.
KRIS: Now for something like that to then be broken down into smaller components, to be “chunked down” into a smaller component that fits your own definition, is indeed quite a feat. That is where Cordellas come into play, those translating devices at the level of the subconscious or inner self that automatically break down the concept to suit your specific needs, that can also be turned into the kind of languages that you are familiar with. And the original presentation of the concept is also not only limited to what you have described up to now at the level of Orodin, but will also include any tonality, sound, anything even that is musically resplendent in orange-ness. Because that kind of language has a resonance that you would only be able to equate with a musical quality, a tone.
JOHN: Ah.
KRIS: That was, at least in this particular phase of the Vedic civilization, reproduced in the Sanskrit language, because Sanskrit is a song language. It has tone. Do you follow?
JOHN: Um-hmm. So it was particularly appropriate for catching the tonal qualities of . . . so that there wouldn’t have to be quite as much of a “chunking down”.
KRIS: Indeed. And in your world at present, what you call Sumari singing . . .
JOHN: Oh yeah.
KRIS: . . . is a closest approximation of that quality.
JOHN: Ah.
KRIS: Does that make sense to you?
JOHN: Yes, it’s . . . gives a new appreciation for Sumari singing. Emmy is a . . .
MARK: Yes. Yeah.
KRIS: Indeed.
JOHN: . . . sings in Sumari.
KRIS: And he . . . Is his Sherlock-ness on line?
ALAN: I don’t know if he’s active in the group or not. He hasn’t made a post.
KRIS: Indeed. In that regard, he may intone all the qualities of his Sherlock-ness . . .
[Laughter.]
KRIS: . . . as you, and any of you, can also, in the innermost mind of your being, intone the quality of your being-ness to at least catch one drop of the nectar of your being.
MARK: Sweet.
KRIS: Indeed. It usually is, though you are entitled to sour as well.
MARK: [Laughing.] I do that from time to time. I think now would be a good time to intone a break.
MUSICAL INTERLUDE
MARK: Welcome back to Reality by Design: A Kris Media Production. We’ve been sitting here talking with Kris about language, languages and the concept of language and . . . Wow.
JOHN: Yes, very interesting. And here we have . . . Kris is back already. He’s getting’ pretty good at that, isn’t he?
MARK: Yep.
KRIS: Now do understand that language is unique in many respects, the least of which is, this is what also differentiates you from other animals. They have their own means of communication but they do not have the kinds of language that you do and language as you know it is also a means to express and literally frame your experiences. So that also represents something unique, because the utilization of language is the result of influences from perception. When you express this with your language you also influence the other way around.
JOHN: Perception, yes.
KRIS: So it is a most unique development. That is why we have referred to it as being of unconscious origins.
JOHN: Hmm.
KRIS: And understanding the nature of language and linguistics, you may indeed find amazing tools, which we will be presenting in the January workshop.
JOHN: Ah.
KRIS: That is, then, the next stage of The Law of Attraction, is the utilization of language, how you can use language as the keys to your freedom or the keys to your prison. The choice is yours.
JOHN: Yeah. I’ve been getting a big, big new understanding of what language . . . I think I wrote about this the other day, but I just want to quickly remind those who maybe have not read it. I woke up in the morning and I gave a great big stretch and I though to myself “Oh boy. I don’t have to do anything today.” And because you’ve taught us to watch our internal dialogue you’ll know this was quite positive. I felt great about not having to do anything that day. But, the result of me deciding that I don’t have to do anything in the day means, as I was saying to Mark earlier, I end up sitting on the couch eating Cheetos and watching television. Whereas if I . . . and I caught myself and rephrased that, and said, “Okay. It’s not that I don’t have to do anything today. It’s much more that I can do anything I WANT today.” And then, I jumped out of bed and there was all kinds of interesting things I wanted to do. So it’s just a matter of . . . And you know, ten years ago if you had asked me the difference between those two ways of saying that, I’d say, “Pfft. You know. It’s the same thing.” So I’m tuning in to some of the subtleties of language.
KRIS: Indeed. And as you noticed, both statements influenced your behavior.
JOHN: Exactly.
KRIS: One was far more beneficial. It was not that the other was negative, but one offered you more choices.
JOHN: Right.
KRIS: And that is one of the prime keys that you can use with language. You can use language to narrow and limit the choices available to you, or you can turn the key the other way and open yourself up to multiple choices where your energies expand as opposed to contract. And choices, the more choices you have in your life, the more you have means of responding to situations that you create. And the more flexible your responses, the easier it is for you to simply whiz through life as opposed to getting hung up on all the small details. Does that make sense to you?
JOHN: Sure do.
MARK: Absolutely. And when John recounted that story earlier, I notice that you [referring to John] mentioned that the first time around when you say, “I don’t have to do anything today”, you sit on your couch with the Cheetos, you said you felt bad about yourself.
JOHN: Yeah. At the end of a day of sitting on the couch watching television, eating Cheetos, I don’t feel that fantastic.
KRIS: Indeed. You probably thought you felt more cheesy.
JOHN: Yes. Cheesy. That’s exactly how I felt. Whereas on the day where I said “Oh, I can do anything today,” suddenly I was thinking about doing water color paintings and going for a walk and starting to do a bit of yoga I’ve been wanting to start doing. And it was a completely different approach to the day.
KRIS: Indeed. The issue of choice.
JOHN: Um-hmm.
KRIS: Are there any other questions, oh great Skype-boss?
[Silence.]
JOHN: He may not answer to that name yet. Alan, are you there?
ALAN: Were you not hearing me?
JOHN: Oh, there you are. There you are. Yeah, we can hear you now.
ALAN: Okay. Well I was just saying that there’s some people that have not been listening to the Kris material for very long. And Dave from Toledo is one of those. And I think some of these folks are considering coming to the January, participating in the January workshop. And Dave has asked, basically is there anything that he can do as a primer, either read up on or some practice he could do that would kind of give him a little background and prepare him for this course? ‘Cause I know all us old hats just take it in stride. Maybe the new folks might know . . . might want to know what they could do.
KRIS: Perhaps that is an inquiry best answered by Sohars and Philip.
JOHN: Yes, perhaps. Yeah, well my feeling would be . . . this is for David, I think you said . . .
ALAN: Right.
JOHN: My feeling would be . . . Actually there’s two ways to go at this and it’s up to him. Of course, Mark may have a third and fourth. But the first approach to it I would take would be to go to the transcript page on Kris Chronicles, that long list of transcripts from 2008, and run your eye down. Don’t be afraid to scan down a few screens. And just run your eye down. And set the intention that your eye is going to catch a title that will be exactly the one for you. That would be the first approach that I would take. That way your own unconscious can draw your attention to the perfect entrée, entry point.
KRIS: Indeed an appetizer is always welcome.
JOHN: Yes. What have you got, Mark?
MARK: I was just going to say that in November and December we’ve been talking about the upcoming workshop. And Kris has given us quite a bit of insight. And those walks in Mexico and a couple of radio shows prior are definitely worth the read, or the “listen to”. And it’ll give you some really good insight into what’s to be expected.
JOHN: Well as a matter of fact, may I make a suggestion, Mark? What would it be? Would it be a good idea, would it be possible, at the bottom of the page advertising the workshop just to say, in brackets down there . . .
MARK: I think I have them linked there. I’m not certain.
JOHN: Well just sort of say, you know, “For those who want to prepare for this workshop you might want to consider these,” and maybe create links to them. You know, this, this and this, these radio shows . . .
MARK: I may have done that already. I can’t remember.
JOHN: Okay. Well anyway, a darned good question. I hope that that provides an opening anyway. What do you think Al?
ALAN: Oh I would think it would. And the other one I would suggest would maybe be that “Who Are You” material might help new people get really well grounded.
JOHN: Yep. It’s true. Yeah, it’s true.
MARK: Yeah. That’s a good one.
JOHN: Also, you can’t really go wrong just exploring the Discussion Forums as well. Because there will be lots of interesting stuff that, you know, may not be current discussions but just . . . Again, go through there and let your subconscious be your guide. And whenever you’re tickled by a title or a topic, then there you go. It’s a matter of trusting your own intuition.
ALAN: Yeah. I like that John. I used to do that years ago with the Seth books, and just let myself find a page. And nine times out of ten I’d find something that was really right “on point” to what was goin’ on.
JOHN: Yeah.
MARK: I have a question for Kris on the topic of re-occurring dreams, recurring dreams. It’s not a topic that we’ve really touched on. And I’ve been reading other forums where these discussions have been ongoing, and some people have recurring dreams like within a week or a few days in a row or sometimes several months in a row. But some people have recurring dreams from childhood right through adulthood. I was wondering if you could comment on the topic?
KRIS: Indeed. Now when you use the word “recurring dream”, it should also be noted that the dream that recurs over many evenings may not necessarily be one hundred percent the same, but the theme, the central theme may be communicated in various ways to get the dreamer’s attention.
MARK: Okay. Common elements.
KRIS: Indeed. And it may be unique to each individual. The moment, as experienced my many dreamers who have had recurring dreams, the moment the dreamer faces the dream, makes a concerted, conscious, willful effort to begin dealing with the underlying theme and message or communication within the dream, be it emotional or psychological or otherwise, then the dream itself begins to transform as the individual also begins to transform. So it is a means that the individual utilizes to communicate to himself or herself that there is a perceived blockage and need to move beyond the issue at hand. And it may very well stem from an engagement in childhood or youth-hood or adulthood, however it may have originated. The event, the originating event, or initializing event, may indeed have left a powerful impression on the individual, perhaps even created by the individual to bring forth issues that have needed to be cleared out, their nature again unique to the context of the person’s life.
However it is presented the individual can put himself or herself in a particular place or frame of mind that allows the dream to continue beyond the usual break point, because the individual has learned to awaken almost at exactly the same point with every such dream. The individual can utilize meditation, self-hypnosis or work with a hypnotherapist in some capacity. And with all the chutzpah they can chutzpah, they can let the dream unfold to its natural conclusion, devoid of fear responses and more so with courage and compassion and derive beneficial outcome.
MARK: So it’s not a matter of trying to translate it, but to let it flow.
KRIS: It may very well be that the translation is part of the blockage since it does not bring the wanted result, as the dream keeps recurring. But to experience it is another issue altogether. Does that make sense to you?
MARK: Yes and no.
KRIS: Say that central to the theme of the dream that recurs over and over again, the individual is feeling trapped in a river and senses that in a few moments he will fall over the edge of a tall precipice, a great waterfall, and forces himself, out of fear, to awaken before going over the falls. Now there are many to try and analyze this. But if the dream keeps recurring it may indicate that the analysis is not the answer. The answer may be in an action. Thus utilizing various methods such as meditation or self-hypnosis or work with a hypnotherapist, one can situate one’s self, the dreamer can attain a specific place of observing and allowing the natural unfolding, quite likely allowing the dream image to go over the falls. And it may very well be that the fear was unwarranted, perhaps justified, but unwarranted. Such that as the individual begins to go over the falls he may realize that he has the power and the ability to suddenly fly indeed. Which would represent a quantum leap forward in that individual’s conscious evolution. But the apparent fear-based response actually causes the block. And the subconscious tries, tries and tries, but the response of fear has been ingrained. Situating one’s self in such a way as to remove one’s self temporarily from the fear response can provide the impetus to allow the dream to unfold as it has been trying to for the longest time. Does that answer your inquiry?
MARK: Yes, it does. Thank you. That really helps. Gives me some very good insight.
KRIS: Indeed. Because the typical interpretations or translations of such a dream would be fear-based, thus its reactions are fear-based. Thus its frame is fear-based and limiting. If the frame is, however, transposed to productive outcome then you have a completely different experience.
MARK: Yes. You observe it from a safe position.
KRIS: Indeed. And realize that the fear was actually a release to a greater potential.
MARK: Yes. Yeah. I get that.
KRIS: Indeed. Do you have one last inquiry that would cover the last minute or so?
JOHN: Well I’ll just make a cou . . .[Hugh breaks in.] Go ahead.
HUGH: Okay, thanks. Just getting’ back to the topic that you brought up at the first about the tithing . . .
KRIS: Indeed.
HUGH: . . . and the energetic value that that represents when somebody does it. I just wanted to ask about the fact that when we’re tithing with money, and money, the system that it is now, partly in evidence of this economic situation we’re in, is that when you keep adding the interest and stuff like that, the system itself is, can’t survive in the long run. So money, whether it’s scarce or not scarce, that we have to give, is part of that overall system. So my question is, because of the logic of the system that doesn’t make any sense and in the long run has to crash and therefore people are short of money to tithe, how does the . . . How does that work in terms of it being true energetic value that’s not subject to being not available because of the illogic of the system itself?
KRIS: That is a beautifully developed illogical logic. Now, the intent makes the difference. If the intent is still based upon the fears associated with the present markets, then the tithing, the giving, is not done of free spirit and mind. If the intent is that the action itself is powerful, regardless of the system and the monetary financial crisis, returns still come because the money is merely a representation either of your fears or of your joys of abundance. So which do you reflect?
And it matters not whom you give to. You can give to the desperate individual, the disenfranchised person on the street corner. You could give to a charity. You could give to a nunnery, an orphanage, or whatever organization. The idea is to give, because when you give, your returns are magnified. For example, if the automobile barons were to tithe, there is a great likelihood that the financial situations of the institutions themselves would be transformed. If the financial barons would tithe, you would have the same effect. But instead of tithing they have hoarded. Does that answer your inquiry?
HUGH: Can I just . . . If I can summarize?
KRIS: Indeed.
HUGH: And that is that, so does the energetic value, or the universe itself, able to overcome the illogic and the limitations of systems themselves?
KRIS: The universe will reflect your logic. Thus if your logic is of the highest intent, that is what you will get. If it is directly out of a flow of abundance, that is what you get back. If it is out of a fear, that is what you will get back. So give from the highest intent and you will get the highest intent back.
HUGH: Okay, thanks.
KRIS: Indeed. And we believe this wraps up another episode.
MARK: [Laughing.] Indeed.
KRIS: We return Joseph to you. And may all of you who are listening and then reading, may all of your tithings bring the highest to you.
MARK: Thank you.
JOHN: Thank you, Kris.
MARK: Wow. Great show. Thank you for everybody that asked a question. Thank you, Alan.
ALAN: Yeah, there’s some good stuff out there.
MARK: Absolutely. Absolutely. Well that’s our time. Stay tuned for The Heroic Journey of the Soul. Good night, everybody.
ALAN: ‘Night everybody.
JOHN: Oh, there must be Heroic Journeyers here.
END OF SHOW
The Tao of the Diamond Consciousness
December 14, 2008
At the end of each year Kris assigns a theme for the upcoming New Year. 2009 is the year of “The Tao of the Diamond Consciousness“. Come listen in to hear what this means.
Podcast: Download (63.8MB)
Tao of the Diamond Consciousness
December 14, 2008
Kris Chronicles
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Ellen Gilbert (Kwaa’Ji)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on Sunday, December 14, 2008
Roll Call: Serge (Joseph), Mark (Philip), John (Sohars), Theresa (Ramanuja), Ellen (Kwaa’Ji), Anya (Greensleeves), Lisa (Lauramar), Nardine (Herakleides), Barbara, Margaret and Alyssa
(7:49 PM)
KRIS: Now we thank you for your consideration and we trust that you are all comfortable, regardless of what continent you are on! (Several countries and continents are represented among tonight’s participants.)
MARK: (Chuckling) Thank you.
KRIS: Recently we offered an interesting theme for the upcoming New Year, one that is even considered “sexy,” so we hear!
(Group laughter. Last week Kris offered the theme for 2009: “The Tao of the Diamond Consciousness” and Lisa said that she thought it was a sexy title.)
Sohars, during the radio show, you offered a comment or two concerning the Tao. Would you care to extrapolate?
JOHN: (Laughing) Yeah, the Tao…. the Tao…. Okay, the Tao is a Chinese word that means “The Path.” Is that what you’re talking about?
KRIS: Indeed.
JOHN: Yeah, the Tao, the Ching, for instance, is the way of spirit or something…. it’s an ancient, venerable term in Eastern philosophy meaning a life path or worldview or a journey. Does that help?
KRIS: Indeed. (Nonchalantly) Please feel free to continue.
[Kris clearly relishes the opportunity to toss the ball into John's court, something that he often does on the Reality By Design Radio show. John handles it blithely and smoothly tosses the ball right back to Kris.]
JOHN: Okay, well…. funny that you should call on me, Kris because… I have a thought, and I think you may be — you and the other dead guys and our own selves – may be jiggling us towards something in the coming year that I think might be quite phenomenal. Let me just ask you flat out: Are we all going to be enlightened next year?
KRIS: We may refuse to answer on certain grounds! And all kidding aside, enlightenment in those terms is a rather very intimate personal situation. For all intents and purposes, you are as enlightened as you will ever be and simultaneously you are everything else as well. At the core of your being there is always a state of enlightenment that seeks to know itself. In traditional Taoist thoughts and philosophies, it is expressed that one cannot know the Tao, that it is an unknowing or unknowable thing, do you follow?
JOHN: Yes, absolutely.
KRIS: And yet, we use this approach to also point out that the statement itself cannot be truly and completely accepted at face value for the simple fact that consciousness simultaneously knows itself inside out and seeks to know itself, creating an apparent paradox. Would it not seem that way? That on the one hand, it knows itself inside out and yet seeks to know itself inside out. But from the perspective of the rational, logical mind as you have developed it, the statement itself may appear paradoxical, or is it that the statement itself seeks to point out that there is something more that consciousness does and thereby something more that you do as well that reflects to something we began speaking about much more arduously during THIS year in terms of value fulfillment. Do you follow?
JOHN: Yeah, I got ya there. Value fulfillment was a fascinating concept. I love the fact that it’s a done deal. No matter which way we turn, we’re gonna fulfill our values! I love that!
KRIS: Indeed. Now, this does not necessarily mean that one needs to sit on his or her laurels, since in some philosophical terms it is a done deal, because even “done deals” can still hold surprises. Thus, we offered the theme of the Tao of the Diamond Consciousness for a variety of reasons, one of which relates to the diamond part as well and notwithstanding the analogies we offered about mining for coal and stripping away the dirt and coal to reveal the diamond inside. The diamond has a unique property and it excels — even though other precious stones reflect the same property — the diamond excels in that above any other precious stone. Do you know what that is?
JOHN: It’s the hardest.
KRIS: That is good.
(Alyssa and Ellen speak at the same time.)
KRIS: (Encouragingly) Continue.
ALYSSA: I was going to say “clarity.”
JOHN: It’s entirely made of carbon.
ELLEN: The refraction of light, I was going to say.
KRIS: Indeed. Now, all of these are some of its properties, but its foremost property is the ability to refract light, and at the external level the light it refracts comes from an external source, but in terms of consciousness, that light, which is of knowledge and wisdom, can only come from an INNER source. Does that make sense to you?
ELLEN: Yeah.
KRIS: And in terms of consciousness, the light refracted by the diamond consciousness seeks to know itself through as many ranges of the spectrum of light as possible. So though on the one hand, light appears whitish, it actually is composed of a variety of other colors, correct?
ELLEN: Yep!
KRIS: And in terms of consciousness, that is all encompassing. It does not distinguish what is and isn’t. It does not distinguish according to human values and human judgments. It refracts that light, that awareness, that wisdom. And that is in many ways its Tao in that it seeks to know itself as completely as possible, just as you seek to know yourselves through your thoughts, your feelings, your emotions, your behaviors, the beliefs that you hold and everything that has gone into making you who and what you are. It is said that before there was a time, before there was a place, consciousness was. Exactly what IS the was that is consciousness? We trust we have not gotten too “Zen-ish” on you? Do you follow?
JOHN: Yeah, you’re saying that before there was time or space, consciousness was there before that. You seem to be asking what was it before that, and I haven’t the slightest idea! (Chuckling)
KRIS: And the same question can still be applied today. What was it then and what is it now? And even all of that which is physically represented in your environment, in your lives, in your reality, in your universe, is one slice of the spectrum of what consciousness is. And through your lives, through who you are, through the Tao of being you, consciousness IS and consciousness knows itself. Does that also make sense to you?
JOHN: Well, sure, it reminds me of looking at that plant the other day at the radio show and you pointing out that not only was I looking at the plant, but the plant was looking back at me and that we were enjoying the view of each other.
KRIS: Indeed, and whether you were looking at the plant or the plant was looking at you, it was quite likely that one of you looked at the other and said (spoken in a noncommittal and dismissive tone) : “Nyah!”
JOHN: (Chuckling) Well, it wasn’t me. I thought the plant was lovely, so there was nothing of me in that! But I do understand what you’re saying. In other words, the life I’m living is one particular spectrum, let’s say, of consciousness and as I become greater and expand who I am, well by golly, consciousness through me is doing the same thing.
KRIS: Indeed, and thus, through each and every one of you and through each and every being and creature in the universe, so does consciousness get to know itself and it understands that even all of these things combined do not make up the totality of itself. That is the mystery, if you wish, of the Tao of the Diamond Consciousness. It always knows. Like the Shadow, it always knows!
[ELLEN'S NOTE: "The Shadow" was an old radio program from the 1930's. The hero had the ability to "cloud men's minds" with a mysterious sort of hypnotic technique that rendered him invisible as he solved crimes, captured villains and saved damsels in distress. The recurring line in the introduction of each show was "Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? The Shadow knows!" followed by maniacal laughter.]
And there is more to itself than what it knows about itself. Thus it is always questing to know what that is. Just as you may not be able to help yourselves from creating civilizations or beavers from building dams or honeybees from making honey, so consciousness is unable to prevent itself from questing and knowing itself through the mystery of its being. Not that this is a flaw or fault in any way, shape or form, but it is what it is, do you follow?
JOHN: Well, I have a pretty good vision of that, Kris. So what you’re saying is the unknown part is absolutely crucial because you can’t grow into something you don’t…. you’re…. you’re…. do you know what I’m trying to say? Like, unless there’s an unknown, there’s no expansion possible.
KRIS: Simply because the built-in qualities of your conscious, logical, rational mind are unable as of yet to more or less to compute what that unknown can be. That is left to the part of yourself that is intimately tied to consciousness: your innermost, deeper most self. And even then, it still continues to unfold just as the diamond, being turned in the light, continues to refract any bit of light in its environment. Do you follow?
JOHN: Well yes, certainly. I don’t want to dominate things, but I do follow that. (Mark begins to speak) Go ahead, Mark.
MARK: Yeah, I was going to say that when Kris tells us we are just that one tiny slice of the spectrum, my mind can’t help but go out and try to at least envision what those other spectrums, what those other slices might be and might contain.
KRIS: In that you are also correct, and it does not do this in terms of a comparison, but in terms of an exploration and in terms of reflecting those qualities it finds as best as it can because it knows that it is always able to be more than what it was without any perceived judgment whatsoever. It does so gladly and naturally because it is in its nature to do so.
We realize that we are not often following the blueprints, if you wish, of what some would like to see as the standard methods of operation of Essence. That is a prerogative and we rather enjoy at times waxing poetical and philosophical, opening other, different areas of your own immediate consciousness, triggering awareness sometimes in areas you might not have considered. And that particular kind of relationship is most endearing. In fact, profoundly endearing. Does that make sense to you?
MARK: Yes.
KRIS: If some of you have inquiries along those lines, please feel free.
JOHN: Well, not so much of an inquiry yet here, Kris, but I do want to say that I very much enjoy your methodology and the way you present material and I’ve gotten to know you well enough at this point that I find it very endearing too! It’s very sweet that you never give us a straight answer or what we want! And always take us off on poetic adventures and philosophical explorations! This is good!
KRIS: You are indeed most welcome and there is a very valid reason for this. It is said that some of the sweetest joys do not come from possessing knowledge or knowing anything as much as from seeing and being part of someone else discovering the joy of inner wisdom. And if you notice our methods of operation, you will find that we actually do provide the answers, but we do so in a way that entices you to make the connections, to connect the dots, to have the light bulbs go off in your head. Even though there are many times when we do spoon-feed the answers in some way, we would prefer that you look at the smorgasbord, the buffet, and simply enjoy what you see before you, realizing the great culinary delights of tasting the answers for yourself. Does that make sense to you?
JOHN: It makes perfect sense and is beautifully and poetically expressed…. So here’s a question since nobody else has got one: Do you think consciousness is ever going to get over this idea of expanding and understanding itself better? Like, is this like phase one and at a certain point it’ll “get it” and it will go on to phase two? (Chuckling)
KRIS: Make no mistake! Consciousness “gets it.” It has always gotten it, but what it also gets, beyond any measure of a doubt whatsoever, what it gets most of all, is the sheer joy of discovering itself in another way: of discovering itself in a way it had not thought before. Even though it knows all of its thoughts it may not necessarily pay attention until, just as you may wonder about an exotic delicacy, may not on your own necessarily pay attention until the delicacy lands on your taste buds. Then it makes a connection and then it is on to the next discovery. Does that make sense to you?
MARK: Is that like saying it’s one thing to know the color red and red paint and how it’s made and everything, but it’s so much fun discovering what you can do with that red paint?
KRIS: Indeed! In fact, especially when you discover that you can paint the town red!
JOHN: Well, that’s a very nice explanation of value fulfillment, Kris. What I got from that was, this idea of continually exploring ourselves and All-That-Is’s Self in new ways… the reason that’s what we’re calling “value fulfillment” is it’s just plain amazingly enjoyable and fun and exciting and fulfilling to discover a new aspect of yourself.
KRIS: Indeed.
ELLEN: It FEELS good!
JOHN: There ya go!
ELLEN: It’s all about feeling.
KRIS: Indeed!
ELLEN: I was thinking about last week’s discussion on philosophy, and I was caught in kind of a loop last week because to me philosophy was always this –
KRIS: (Interjecting humorously) In other words, you might have been caught with your intellectual pants down!
ELLEN: (Laughs) Yeah! To me philosophy has always just meant intellectualism. You know, everything is intellectualized and it seems like all philosophy is a quest to find proof of existence, to find proof that consciousness exists. And, I don’t which philosopher it was who said, “I think, therefore I am,” but to me, that summed it all up.
But when you asked us to offer whatever philosophy we determined is our own personal philosophy, I had to think about that and I suddenly realized that right now, even though “I think, therefore I am” is very valid, I would go further than that and say “I FEEL, therefore I am,” which I realized is just as valid as the other, but because feelings seem to be antithetical to philosophical musings…. I think that most philosophers tend to run for the hills at the very thought of exposing any feelings, or considering feelings of any kind to be any part of a personal philosophy. And to assist others to dig for their own diamonds through emotional layers is kind of a daunting task.
KRIS: Indeed. For many philosophers it is tantamount to sacrilege!
ELLEN: (Laughing) Yeah, yeah!
KRIS: “How dare you actually bring such an offering to the altar of philosophy!”
ELLEN: That sort of exploration frightens and dismays most people. They’ll do anything to avoid going down into the emotional realm.
KRIS: And yet that is where the diamond mine is to be found, or one of them. Please continue.
ELLEN: Ah, well, I was done, pretty much. I was just thinking how people will do anything to avoid going there, even though, like you say, that’s where the diamonds are. They’ll isolate themselves in a cave for thirty years or twist themselves into pretzels every day or say a hundred thousand “Hail Mary’s” if they think it’s going to get them to enlightenment! (Chuckling)
JOHN: But you know, Ellen, what Kris has been saying lately is very comforting for me because I’ve devoted thirty, forty years to developing my intellect and yes, avoiding emotions — although in the last decade they’ve overtaken me — but what I love about what Kris is saying lately is “Don’t be shy about using your intellect and your logic and rationality and your putting things together in the broad daylight and seeing if they make sense.” That’s a diamond mine too!
ELLEN: It is, but I think that most people tend to use their intellectual, rational mind first, when instead I think it’s better if you use it as the culmination. It should be the translator, it shouldn’t be the ah… the…
JOHN: The primary probe.
ELLEN: Right, it shouldn’t be the shovel that you begin digging with.
KRIS: And in many respects, from the point of view of consciousness, consciousness knows itself and discovers itself regardless of the angle that you explore with. There are, however, certain drawbacks to an intellectual-only approach as there is to an emotional-only approach or a feeling-only approach.
ELLEN: Mmhm.
KRIS: Each one on its own set up as the ivory tower of self-expression will eventually wither on the vine, because it needs all of the others in order to be fully nourished. Do you follow?
ELLEN: Oh yeah, you need that balance.
KRIS: Indeed.
ELLEN: That’s why I said I wouldn’t throw out the philosophy “I think, therefore I am,” because it’s just as true.
KRIS: Ah, but the key is what do you think? And therefore what are you?
ELLEN: A thinking, feeling being.
KRIS: Thus, an intellectually developed perception eventually needs to be rejuvenated and to be reborn in a way with its emotional, feeling, imaginative counterparts. Even utilizing intellectualism one has to rely upon one’s imagination, one’s feelings, one’s emotions, but at that same time, these other elements are usually downplayed as if they have no bearing, consequence or influence upon the intellect and the further the denial of those particular elements is pursued, the more one is in need.
Thus, a marriage, as we have often spoken of before, of all of the elements represents the combination of the higher intellect and consciousness knows itself more fully through that united approach. In and of itself, consciousness does not make a judgment as to whether one is sufficient or insufficient, but from your own developmental perspective, it is in your benefit to round out the personality with all of the elements that compose it and to acknowledge and accept who and what you are. Do you follow?
ELLEN: Yes!
KRIS: Are there any other observations or comments? Please feel free to do so.
JOHN: Well, one of the things you’re saying this evening that I’m suddenly twigging to is this idea of not making any judgments. You’ve repeated a couple of times that consciousness doesn’t make any judgments about the various ways that it gets to know itself better and what I’m beginning to understand is that one of the big stumbling blocks that we are just beginning to learn to step around or step over, is that business of making judgments. Even the judgment of saying “I’m in a bad place now and I want to be in a better place” can get in the way of the equilibrium necessary for us to easily move to a different place.
KRIS: Perhaps now is a time to bring some clarification. Even though consciousness itself does not make any particular judgments. That is what your own developing awareness deals with. And we are attempting to be very clear and specific because at the same time we do not want to get into areas where others have gone. Because in and of itself you cannot avoid, for instance, deciding that being dropped in a bucket of boiling oil will affect your health, correct?
JOHN: Oh yeah, that would be a bad thing!
KRIS: In many ways as far as you are concerned, so your own survival instincts would kick in and you would definitely make every attempt possible to not fall into the vat of boiling oil. Would that mean, therefore, that you are being judgmental?
JOHN: Well, I understand what you’re saying when you don’t want to go down various other roads here…. For me personally…. Well, yeah, whether you call it a judgment or a preference, it’s a “don’t want” as opposed to a “want.”
KRIS: Indeed, so your want would be to be somewhere else that would be more uplifting and nurturing at that point in time.
JOHN: Absolutely.
KRIS: And therefore you have made certain kind of choice and you do this — and so does everyone else — you do this all the time. You may not even be able to avoid making those choices for yourself and the stumbling block for many individuals is in thinking that all such choices and decisions might ultimately become judgmental in nature and therefore should be avoided thus leading to the eternal conundrum that making a judgment is a judgment, therefore one must judge to not make judgments!
On the other hand, consciousness, through the flower of your budding intellect, observes all of creation and explores the highs and lows, the ins and outs of every single minute action, both in terms of subjective and objective. And from that point of view, observing the minutiae, observing the quanta of each singularity of consciousness, explores the depths of its knowing. Thus from your perspective, you may think that you may, according to some dictates or philosophies, be exploring judgmentalism and trying to effectively go beyond it [but] you’re actually exploring the deeper choices of your being. AND, from the point of view of the Tao of the Diamond Consciousness, that is embraced, that is also part of the fulfillment of the value of each quanta, of each singularity of consciousness. That in and of itself is a miraculous achievement in its own rights. Does that make some sense to you?
JOHN: Well, it certainly makes sense to me, Kris. It was very helpful, the distinction you made between judgment and choices. I think linking judgment and choices together was very helpful because obviously we’ve got to make choices. We make choices based on preferences.
KRIS: Indeed.
JOHN: The issue that I was trying to talk about there was we can make a choice between two things without opposing the thing we’re not choosing.
KRIS: That is correct. You can embrace either/or but choose one over the other.
JOHN: Right, and for me that is where I was coming from. In other words, certainly making judgments and choices, hey, that’s what we’re here for, but what I’m learning is that I think somebody said it very nicely: “I don’t have to make you wrong in order for me to be right.” In other words, the thing I don’t choose doesn’t have to be the personification of evil. It’s just something I didn’t choose.
KRIS: Indeed. Thus, through the particular explorations of your choices, of your journey, of the Tao of your being, all of consciousness then benefits from the refracted light of your knowledge and wisdom as you go about your journey, because that journey is always a journey of discovery.
JOHN: Well, this is, I think, a very exciting time on the planet at least for me anyway because after fifty-some years of living a comparatively ordinary life, in the past half a dozen years I’ve discovered all kinds of stuff about myself and the universe that I didn’t know was there before, so this is working real good for me!
KRIS: Indeed, you are most welcome! Are there any other observations, comments, inquiries? (Pause) Then let us ask you this collectively. You need not answer, but if and when you choose to, you are entirely free to do so, but our inquiry is then, how is it that you fulfill your life? How is your life being fulfilled? That too may be a trick question.
THERESA: Well, one approach, or one way of looking at it is to say that we follow and act on and fulfill our desires. That is the Tantric approach.
KRIS: Indeed. And we would say to you then, in response to all of you that you follow the path of your life exactly as you do because there is fulfillment in being who you are, even including those particular aspects of yourself you may find less than attractive or even unsavory, or even at times that you would rather they not be. Even those bring you to a certain level of balance and fulfillment and it is then when you recognize a barrier, a blockage of some kind which means that there is an area of your fulfillment that you are not yet able to reach because you have set up a barrier and it appears that the belief in question may be preventing you from exploring that area of life. Do you follow?
THERESA: Yes.
KRIS: Since many of these things are not taught in your educational systems, in your family structures and many of these things have been buried so deeply within the tenets of many religions and spiritualities, it appears that this type of information is new, but as we have suggested before, it is not. What you are exploring in your life now is the result of your perception and your perceptions inevitably influence the actions of consciousness to be reflected through the diamond of your consciousness simply because that which is observed is immediately and automatically what it is because of the observer. And these things you will find in some of the oldest teachings in the spiritualities and religions of your world, sometimes even in those very words, but such knowledge is not generally released or taught. Do you follow?
THERESA: Yes.
KRIS: Do you have another observation or comment? Let us then put it to you generally that your lives are the way they are because of whom and what you are. They are more than just a reflection. They are a living representation and you are the main character in that story and the story is the way it is because you are the way you are. And when you encounter a struggle, a challenge or a blockage, then you are letting yourself know that in an area of your life you desire a change, you desire something more. Does that also make sense to you?
THERESA: Ohhhh yeah!
KRIS: Anyone please feel free to continue. We are thoroughly enjoying ourselves!
JOHN: We’re thoroughly enjoying ourselves, too, Kris. At least I am.
KRIS: You are also entitled to have the royal “we”!
JOHN: Oh, well thank you! Yes, there’s gotta be more than just me in here! Here’s my question for you: We’re just wrapping up the year of Creative Geniuses…. What was this year? The year of Creative Juices or something? There was a genius in there somewhere, too…. anyway, we culminated with that wonderful acronym you gave for the word GENIUS that time on the radio show, which I thought was lovely…. So how did we do in the year of the Creative Genius? Should we look back on this last year and… What did we learn?
ELLEN: Do we get a diploma?
JOHN: Ha ha ha! Yeah! A certificate!
ELLEN: A nice little cap and gown?
KRIS: Indeed, that can be your own little task, even to each and every one of you, to jot down the highlights of your perceptions, your learnings, your wisdom and looking back at your life, see how much headway you have made, what kind of travels you have ventured on and what it has brought you.
JOHN: Well, yeah, I think that would be a real good exercise! As a matter of fact, Theresa, I want to thank you, you’ve already made a start on this…. Theresa has posted on the Kris Chronicles forum a list of all the tools that we’ve developed in CMI so far and there must be like, fifteen or twenty things on that list already.
THERESA: Well, thank you. It is an amazing list and as I was going through it I was thinking “Wow, we’ve really learned a lot this year. We’ve covered a lot of ground this year, and as you said, John, I’m loving it too.
KRIS: Indeed, and if we may add to that, none of this would have been transformed into tools, which transforms into experience which percolates into personal, intimate knowledge and wisdom if you had been unable to imagine yourselves using these tools and resources and thereby creatively integrating this into the change and the “more of” that you want in your lives. Otherwise it would have gone in one ear and out the other. So you may notice it because in some respects it has been put to good use.
JOHN: Well, that’s definitely been true for me, Kris. I have been eagerly putting most of these tools into action and sometimes I kind of feel “Oh, I haven’t used such-and-such a tool….” the Nine Sisters for instance… Bless their hearts! I hardly ever think about the Nine Sisters any more!
ELLEN: (Laughing)
JOHN: (Chuckling) But that’s because I’m fooling around with aspect trance and Rahunas and all the new stuff!
KRIS: Indeed, and at the same time you are likely making full use of all of these aspects or Sisters, perhaps in a slightly new context.
JOHN: Well, that’s a comforting thing to think of because I have enormous affection for the Sisters and I’m cheered by the idea that they’re working and playing around in the background there. They’re wonderful.
ELLEN: You may have forgotten them, but they didn’t forget you, John!
JOHN: (Chuckling)
MARK: It’s not really forgetting them, it’s putting them to use in a different way. It’s second nature.
JOHN: Actually that’s a good point, Mark. I interrupted you, Ellen…
ELLEN: I said, I agree. That’s what Kris was referring to, putting them to use.
JOHN: But the Speaker aspect, aspect trance, this is all fantastically powerful stuff from my point of view. I try to write about it as coherently as I can, but there’s only so much I can capture in words.
KRIS: Now what about some of you who are quiet this evening?
ANYA: A couple of thoughts that came to mind: first of all the practical question that you asked about how do you fulfill your value, is a phenomenal question, maybe a great question to post on the website in Kris Chronicles for the year end topic that John was recommending, kind of like wrapping up the year’s results. And another thought that was going through my mind was about the word “transcendence.” The way I was looking recently at the aspects, is like… and I’m picking up from Ken Wilber a bit, but I like the word transcendence and the Holon theory when you transcend to a next “level” quote unquote, but you embrace whatever the previous level is.
It’s like a molecule embraces into a cell, or a cell embraces a molecule, so regardless of what our aspects might be, what their level of development might be, a two-year-old that needs to be coached, a five-year-old, a ten-year-old, or something else, we don’t have to neutralize that… but in a way, the word neutralize means that we are embracing them, but I just like the word transcendence. I just wanted to throw that into the mix.
KRIS: Indeed. It is in many ways an unfortunate thing that a great many people consider transcendence as something that you reach for so that you can eschew or dump where you were at before. That is not transcendence at all. As you have pointed out, the true nature of that which is transcendence is to embrace whatever older values that you may have had as well as embracing the values you are reaching for so that you become more of what you were. That way, that what you consider to be the past and the future are not placed in juxtaposition one to another, but are aligned one WITH the other as a means of fulfilling your values. Does that make sense to you?
ANYA: Could you repeat the last sentence one more time?
KRIS: Perhaps you will find it on the recording. Simply put: the truth of transcendence is that it never cuts off or moves away from, nor does it do so to move towards at the expense of what was, but instead embraces everything.
ANYA: Right, right, and what I found, my biggest breakthroughs in my quote unquote “transcendence” came from really embracing some of the parts of me that, just giving the attention and this unconditional love, you know, embracing that just brings huge pay-off and to me that is related to the word transcendence so when I come across a block or something like that, or a limitation, I set my intent not to neutralize, not to get rid of, none of those things, I just use the word transcend and I feel like very, very guided into a very loving place towards the acceptance of that specific and embracement of the specific aspect. And for some reason it reminds me of the work Ellen is doing with her aspects with the Second World War.
KRIS: Indeed.
ANYA: So that was my two cents, thank you.
KRIS: Indeed, a worthy investment! If you consider for instance, the very natural, biological evolution of your bodies from infancy to youth to adulthood to maturity, you are, in your own ways, biologically participating in a movement of transcendence but you do not go back as an adult and spit on the child that you were and try to kill it as if somehow or other it was a dirty thing to be a child or a youth or an adolescent. Now that you are an adult you are somehow or other redeemed. Does that make sense to you?
ANYA: Very much.
KRIS: You may internally try to suppress all of what you experienced and were in those past selves of yours. That is your prerogative, but for all intents and purposes embracing the whole Self that you were is to your advantage so that the adult is healthy in all ways. The same can be put to good use in terms of your psychology.
ANYA: It really feels like the path of least resistance, you know? It really feels like the most natural way of dealing with any of the aspects’ issues or blockages.
KRIS: Indeed. For the most part perhaps you may all have noticed that we have on a few occasions made references to those who work towards their quote unquote “enlightenment” through a path of denial, correct Sohars?
JOHN: Yes, you talked about that on the radio show.
KRIS: Indeed.
JOHN: And it’s not a good plan.
KRIS: Indeed, and what kind of path do we present?
JOHN: The pathway of acceptance.
KRIS: Indeed, of embracing whom and what you are, and some of you may have noticed that in a very short amount of time, utilizing that knowledge, that information, that material and that particular perspective, you have gained tremendously, whereas in the past you may even have attempted to follow a path of denial. Does that make sense to you?
THERESA: Yes.
JOHN: Absolutely. The way I say that to myself in short form is “If I deny myself, then the world, which is a reflection of my actions, denies me.”
KRIS: And therefore the world is denied.
JOHN: Exactly.
KRIS: Thus, you could say that even though we chose it as a theme for the next year, The Tao of the Diamond Consciousness, you could say that it is also our path.
JOHN: Ah! That’s interesting! That’s a very interesting comment. Do you mind expanding a tiny bit on that?
KRIS: We thought we just did!
JOHN: Ah ha ha! Okay…. so the Tao of the Diamond Consciousness could be said to be your — meaning Kris, the group that you represent — your path personally. That’s very interesting. So we’re catching up to you next year!
KRIS: Indeed, pretty soon we expect you to walk on water!
JOHN: Well, as long as it’s very shallow water, I’m okay with that!
KRIS: Indeed!
ANYA: And as long as we’re not dead!
JOHN: Well, actually, I like what Kris said earlier this evening. Do you remember Seth’s famous comment “You’re as dead now as you’ll ever be”? Well, Kris gave us a new wrinkle on that this evening. He said that we’re as enlightened now as we’ll ever be. That’s worth thinking about.
KRIS: And that particular statement does not mean that if you feel not so enlightened then that is all that you are capable of. That would be much too much of a literal interpretation.
JOHN: No, I understand that and I also understand that whatever Seth said, there’s a difference between a living human being and a dead one. I mean there’s different layers we’re talking about here.
KRIS: Indeed, are there any last points of view or observations?
JOHN: Well, I just wanted to say that I’m quite looking forward to the Skype workshop next month and I hope lots of people are going to join in on that because I have a feeling that that’s going to be a humdinger!
KRIS: Indeed then, that will be the Tao of the humdinger of consciousness! And with that we thank you all for your blessed consideration and we return Joseph to you.
ALL: Thank you, Kris.
[Session ends at 8:59 PM]
Kris Newsletter December 2008
December 13, 2008
The Holidays are almost here and we’ve got the perfect stocking stuffer for you. Sure, gift buying can be hectic, what with the crowds, the hustle and bustle, pushing, shoving, busy malls, no parking space, long lines at the check outs and so on. Gifts themselves can lead to some stress.. is this the right gift for so and so?
As many of us know, some gifts may not even last past the Holiday season, and sometimes gift certificates can seem a bit impersonal. Well, what about a gift that can truly be life changing? The kind of gift that broadens awareness and makes a powerful difference in someone’s life?! We’ve got all sorts of these kinds of Gifts of Awareness for your loved ones and friends, or even yourself.
For starters, consider Kris new online workshop to start on January 13, 2009, which promises to be a real mind blower, taking The Law of Attraction to a whole new level. You can get details right from the home page or you can get click on this link where there is plenty of information, laying the groundwork for what is to be a monumental exploration of consciousness and awareness leading to powerful life changes: http://krischronicles.com/?page_id=1407
Kris delivered the last two audio files relating to that workshop while Mark and I were in Mexico last week.
Looking for something different yet soul satisfying? How about Kris’ new book “Discourses on Dreams”, delivered during the last few years on our Walks here in Toronto? For info on ordering the book directly from us go to our home page or click this link: http://krischronicles.com/?page_id=1200 . This book may not be delivered on time for Xmas, and is a great gift idea any time of the year
Apart from the book “Discourses on Dreams”, Kris also gave two workshops on Dreams earlier in 2008 titled “Dreams of The Gods” and the recording and all transcripts are available at a Holiday Special price. Click on this link for more details and instant downloads: http://dreamsofthegods.net .
The information in these two workshops interestingly enough is very different from the material Kris delivered in the Dream Book and the two make excellent companions!
Want to give an even more personal Gift of Awareness, one that provides a very different level of experience for the recipient of your gift? Then consider offering a Private Session with Kris even if the recipient is you. For Special Holiday pricing, click on this link: http://krischronicles.com/?page_id=4
The newly renamed Kris Radio show “Reality By Design, a Kris Media Production” is also launching into new areas. Once a month we will have an open mic evening, so you can participate by emailing us your questions for Kris to answer. Emailing us a question doesn’t guarantee the question will be asked on the air. We are also looking forward to a new aspect of the show which will have a Special Guest Speaker at least once a month as well. So stay tuned to http://www.thatradio.com every Thursday evening at 7 PM Eastern Time.
We’ve also announced an incredible Conscious Creation Challenge for all of Kris’ friends and readers. We are planning an AMAZING Kris workshop in October 2010 at a Villa (yet to be determined) in Puerto Vallarta, Mexico. Most rental Villas in that area are on cliff-sides, with awesome views overlooking beaches and ocean and palm trees, a perfect place for a Kris Workshop! Put your Conscious Creation hats on and take up the challenge. We’ll be putting up some links to the selected Villa as soon as we can.
There is still an ever present need to expand the materials and the websites, pushing the envelope into new territory to bring Kris’ materials to more people. That also means more costs. You can greatly help us help your and others receive some of the same benefits you get from reading and participating in the Kris Chronicles.
In the last newsletter we asked for some contributions and a few people responded from their heart in a wonderful way, for which we are so grateful. If everyone offered just $5.00/month, things would move along at a tremendous rate. That is less than two Starbucks’ coffees and everyone benefits. Mind you if you want to offer more we won’t stop you.
Donate by clicking on the Paypal Donate button:
Please feel free to forward this Newsletter to all your friends and groups
Cheers and have a great Holiday
Serge and Mark
