Kris Radio: Truthfully Speaking
February 28, 2008
Kris Chronicles – Truthfully Speaking
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Lisa Q. Pratt (Lauromar)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on February 28, 2008
MARK: Good evening and welcome to Kris Radio here on thatradio.com. My name is Mark Bukator and I am co-hosting on this freezing cold night in Toronto along with…
JOHN: You’re co-hosting with me, Mark and I’m very happy to be back again, it’s John Hawkins and I want to introduce, without further ado or delay or obfuscation or any kind of walk around the issue…
(Laughter)
SERGE: Keep going, John, that’s right, keep going.
JOHN: Of course we are blessed with the presence of our friend Serge as well.
SERGE: Yes, and John has a new name.
JOHN: Oh yeah! (Silently)
SERGE: Yeah, he’s known now as Mister “Your Faithful Reporter Dot Com.”
JOHN: I know, I’m so tickled. Just this week I went on to… and I got… and I sowed up, for five years, I bought the rights to yourfaithfulreporter.com. I was so delighted to find that it was available!
MARK: Of course it was, you created it. (Laughing)
JOHN: Okay, exactly. Now the other thing I like is that I Googled Your Faithful Reporter” and I’m the first one that comes up! (Chuckling)
MARK: Does anybody else come up? (Laughing)
JOHN: Oh yeah, there’s a few others.
SERGE: So you admit on the air that you Googled yourself?
JOHN: Oh, I Google myself…
MARK: I Google myself all the time!
(Laughter)
MARK: It’s funny what comes up.
SERGE: I’m so glad we’ve got that out of the way.
(More laughter)
MARK: It’s always about the crumpets. (More laughter) So, do we have anybody out in Skype land?
MATT: Thank God this is radio and not TV cause the last thing we want to see is John (word cut out) himself.
MARLENE: (very faintly) Hi everyone.
MARK: Hi!
NICOLE: Hello!
SERGE: We can barely hear you guys!
NICOLE: Oh we’re here. Can you hear us better now?
JOHN: Yes, that’s better.
NICOLE: Okay.
MARLENE: Hello! (Really loud)
JOHN: There we go. Hello, Hi! Sounded like Marlene.
SERGE: Can you back up a little bit?
(Laughter)
SERGE: Back up some more!
JOHN: Is that Marlene too?
MATT: That is Marlene!
JOHN: How wonderful.
MATT: We got the whole crew here, just getting ready for…
SERGE: Yeah, we hear there’s something going on down there next weekend, huh?
MATT: Oh my goodness! You know I’m gonna pick you guys up from the airport in… how many days? Two!? Days!?
SERGE: Yup. In two days…
MARK: We can start counting it in hours! (Laughing)
SERGE: 48 hours.
(Sirens in the background)
MARK: Cue the sirens.
MATT: That, you know what that’s incredible. It was like 80 something degrees here today.
MARK: Yeah, I was noticing that it’s like minus 30 in Toronto and plus 30 in Arizona! Funny that!
SERGE: Yeah. And I think the best way to make us feel truly at home, Matt, get some sirens.
(Laughter)
SERGE: Otherwise we think we’re in a different world.
MARLENE: We’ve never heard one since we’ve lived here.
SERGE: Wow! We don’t even know what that is.
MARK: You will next week.
MATT: Well actually we’ve been calling all the party stores and we actually called the Scottsdale Police Department to see if we get… (Matt cuts out)
MARK: A token siren?
SERGE: They keep cutting out.
JOHN: Yeah.
(Pause)
SERGE: I don’t know, but their Skype just cut out.
(Male voice in the background: Their Skype just cut out?)
MARK: You there Matt?
(Pause)
MARK: It’s always about the crumpets. (Chuckling)
JOHN: Well I’m sure we’ll sort that technology out, one way or the other, but the bottom line is that we’re all going to have a wonderful… now, as it happens, I’m not…
(Matt’s voice is heard again, in unintelligible bits and pieces)
JOHN: Oh! There…
MARK: Garbly.
JOHN: We can hear you a bit. It sounds like you’re gargling.
MATT: Hello, sorry about that. (Still being heard as cutting in and out)
MARK: Cutting in and out.
JOHN: Okay.
SERGE: It may be the Skype connection itself down there, not here.
(Matt’s still trying to get a clear word in)
JOHN: It’s still a bit intermittent, Matt. I’m not sure that… you know, you don’t do that much talking anyway so… forgive me for saying. (Chuckling)
(Can hear Matt in the background)
JOHN: You’re… here, I’m gonna… I’m gonna sound like you sound. (John imitates what Matt sounds like, saying words, and cutting out their endings) you get that? (Laughing)
MATT: Huh?
(John’s still laughing)
MATT: Nice!
JOHN: That’s just not…
MARK: No it’s not working.
SERGE: Hmm.
(Matt’s still talking, only hear “huh”)
MARK: We heard the “huh”. (Chuckling)
(Pause)
MARK: Well, to keep things rolling while we we’re…
JOHN: Yes!
MARK: …straightening that out… yes! We will be in Arizona as of Saturday, and probably be in the hot tub around 9:01 (laughing) and the workshop is on the 8th and 9th, with people coming in to like the Wednesday before, I believe?
(John confirms)
MARK: We’re going to be doing the radio show on Thursday night from Arizona…
JOHN: And we’re going to be handling the Toronto… we’ll be remote correspondents.
MARK: John and Myrna will be the Toronto correspondents.
JOHN: And have you told everybody that we’re going to be doing some seven circles yoga?
MARK: I think I did…
JOHN: Oh good.
MARK: But I’m not certain… well we can still talk about that.
JOHN: Yeah well, we had a fabulous Toronto session last Sunday and Kris introduced… just honestly, a whole new layer of value and understanding about the seven circles yoga and he actually made a point during the session to suggest that everybody coming to the workshop in Arizona be aware that we were going to be doing the seven circles yoga before the sessions.
MARK: Absolutely and John why don’t you point out some of the benefits of the seven circles yoga. This is incredible stuff! It was first brought out during the Consciousness Mentoring Institute courses…
SERGE: From back in September.
MARK: ..and probably (CMI Session #1) number one, was it not?
SERGE: Yeah.
MARK: And that was step one, but some of the benefits, John here has listed.
JOHN: Yeah, well Kris… the… I highly recommend getting a hold of, and reading last Sunday’s manuscript or transcript because it’s… really life changing. By doing seven circles yoga every day, and following it with a contemplative practice, results in… after only several weeks… an increased awareness of who and what you are, and greatly increased sense perceptions. We’re talking about your five basic senses here, sight, sound, smell, etcetera. There will be a marked increase in the sensitivity of your five physical senses and Kris suggested that this was a signal to let us know that we’re reaching, we had reached a new platform within consciousness when we start to notice that. The mind will be more available to us…
MARK: First and second mind.
JOHN: One presumes, and the practice creates new neurological pathways, and we all know how delicious they are.
MARK: Absolutely incredible. This was the video, there’s a mini-video out right now, it’s an okay video, that is… I don’t think that’s publicly on the web right now…
SERGE: No.
MARK: We did send an e-mail out to the participants, I believe, if not we will be showing them anyway, in Arizona how to do it, and we will make that little video clip available on the web, probably when we get back.
(Someone said “testing”)
JOHN: That sounds like Alan!
(Someone in the background says, “it is”)
JOHN: Oh! Hi Alan!
MARK: Alan?
SERGE: I guess in maybe the whole Skype thing is having a problem tonight.
JOHN: Well anyway, welcome remote folks.
(Male voice)
JOHN: That sounded like Alan again didn’t it?
(Mark confirms)
JOHN: We’re still getting a kind of an intermittent reception there’s, so I think we’ll just sort of surge on right here. Did you have something Serge?
SERGE: Um… one of the things we’re gonna try.
(Matt saying something about Serge)
MARK: What?
(Laughter)
JOHN: I think he was making play on words, Serge surging onwards.
(Chuckling)
SERGE: One of the things we want to try and do while we’re in Arizona because there’s probably going to be several people with camcorders or video cameras of one kind or another, and we’d like to film at least one person who does the seven yogas fairly well, to try and replace the one that we have because it’s very poor quality, I was coughing in it and stuff like that. And we may even see if we can capture the whole audience doing it together.
JOHN: I think that would be great!
SERGE: That would be really, really nice.
JOHN: Like Tai Chi in the park or something.
SERGE: Yeah.
MARK: Seven circles yoga, pretty amazing. Yeah, we definitely do want to do another video clip and I think we’re going to also try to videotape Kris Radio in Arizona, at least get some clips out there.
SERGE: Yeah, and there’ll be… probably several, if not the whole workshop… going to be video taped in some way or another, so there’ll be a lot of visual stuff afterwards.
MARK: Oh, even still footage.
SERGE: Yeah, as well, should be very good.
JOHN: Well actually you know, I think… I just had a thought about the radio show. I think we may be overlooking the power of the radio, even the past radio shows? I’m just thinking that it might be a very nice project, there’s only… there aren’t that many shows. What if we had a part of your website where it listed all the old radio shows with just one paragraph describing what was in that show?
MARK: Do you realize how long we’ve been doing this?
JOHN: A couple of years.
SERGE: It was a year in October, November.
JOHN: So there’d be what… a hundred and, maybe a hundred…
MARK: A hundred some paragraphs.
(Laughter)
SERGE: Well those could all be, especially since we’re going to be changing the site into a WordPress site…
JOHN: Right.
SERGE: There could be small summaries of transcripts once on a continuous page then people can just click on it and go.
JOHN: That sounds great, yeah.
MARK: Well especially with the WordPress, how their pod casting is done on WordPress. You upload to a post. So the post could be the paragraph.
JOHN: Yeah that would be great.
MARK: So that’d be ideal.
JOHN: Yeah.
SERGE: So it’s got a lot of good potential for that.
JOHN: Well I’m just thinking that right now, it’s a bit of a crapshoot you know. You’ve got the title which is helpful, very helpful, but you know, you’re basically downloading an hour’s worth of stuff and making a bit of a commitment and then you’re putting it on an ipod and you know, it would be nice to feel that this was something that you know, you really wanted to hear.
MARK: I thought it was! (Laughing)
JOHN: Of course they’re all good. Of course they’re all good!
SERGE: I just thought of something as well. I know how to permanently fix glitches like this that occur on Skype when we’re on the air but it would involve the station’s Skype to connect through our teleconference, which is… it’s an incredibly crystal clear conference room, that if you have Skype it’s free to get in, so we’ll have to set that up because it’s really, really good, that’ll fix all those kind of things…
JOHN: That would be great!
SERGE: Because it bypasses the Skype, Skypenet, whatever you wanna call it, it’s really good.
JOHN: Okay.
SERGE: All the dream… no, the first couple of dream workshops we did on Gizmo and that proved to be horrible.
MARK: Even the Skype to Skype wasn’t that great.
SERGE: And yeah, so once we switched to this teleconferencing system that uses Skype, it became incredible, even with 20 people online, all on, there’s hardly a glitch.
JOHN: Wonderful.
SERGE: So we’ll work on that, and I’ll and you guys to coordinate for the next show.
MARK: Sweet.
SERGE: That’ll fix it… permanently.
JOHN: Well good, you just… that just came to you did it?
SERGE: Yup! Just like “Oh, I know how to do that!”
JOHN: I wonder who you were channeling there.
MARK: Me, because I thought about it at dinner (laughing) I didn’t have a chance to bring it up.
JOHN: Well, picking up the threads from last week’s show… oh, it was on “Under New Management” was the topic.
MARK: Oh right!
JOHN: “Under New Management” and he talked quite a bit about how we can… just that one idea can change our approach to how the world is, and I was just, I was gonna tell you guys over dinner but it slipped my mind, but when I was coming out of the house, to walk down here at 5:00 today, I walked out of the house and I sort of felt… you’re giving this is funny… but I sort of like felt like the queen doing a walkabout in her own kingdom?
(Chuckling)
JOHN: Like… well it’s a queen, I mean if she was a king, there would be a king! Anyway, I was doing a walkabout in my own little kingdom, which happened to be downtown Toronto, but it’s under new management and hello, I’m the new manager.
(Laughter)
MARK: And you’re quite the little queen!
(More laughter)
MARK: Did you give them the royal wave?
SERGE: I just want to know what kind of hat and purse he’s got.
(Still laughing)
JOHN: I actually… it was funny, I met a few people and I noticed that they weren’t bowing or curtsying at all?
SERGE: Oh for shame, for shame.
JOHN: Well what I decided was, I made a royal decree and I said “you know it’s not necessary for people to bow and curtsy, just go on about your business.”
MARK: I don’t know how to follow that one out. (Laughing) Well we’ve talked about the workshop, we’ve talked about the radio show, what other announcements do we have here? Oh good, here he comes.
(Laughter)
KRIS: Now we trust that you are comfortable. We thank you for your consideration and we thought it was high time to come and rescue you.
JOHN and MARK: Thank you.
KRIS: Now this following subject matter will be discussed in more in-depth during the workshop as well. Now we would like to examine the premises and assumptions that govern your ideas and your search for “truth.” And it may open your eyes in a very nice complementary way about some of your idealistic philosophical fixations in many respects, especially so in the western world. Perhaps highly noticeable, more so beginning at the time of your ancient Greek philosophers and the great emphasis on the search for truth, something that has flowed through your different cultures since that time. Do you follow?
MARK: Yes.
JOHN: Yes.
KRIS: And it has been a prominent idealized quest, searching for “the truth”, and as a result, you often encounter many problematic situations, especially so when new information, new ideas, new notions come about and more or less clash with your views about what is and what isn’t truth. And that can even prevent individuals and entire groups if not nations, from moving beyond such a quest because it can truly be a very difficult barrier, simply because it allows one to more or less be stuck in mental and intellectual states.
One has to search for the truth, one has to find an individual who is more truthful than the other, it even it is rampant in your many new age communities and groups and affiliations and whatnots, to the point where if a group perceives some kind of information to even have less distortion than another, whatever that may mean, it can actually prevent individualized growth and pursuit of that development, creating stuck states, the wheels of the quest of truth spinning faster and faster and still staying where they are. Does that make some sense to you?
JOHN: Oh yeah.
MARK: Ain’t that the truth! [Lilly Tomlin joke.]
JOHN: Been there.
KRIS: As we have suggested in the past, as soon as such mental and intellectual states can be put aside, and we can imagine many individuals, perhaps exclaiming “oh the horrors and inhumanities of suspending truth, what would we do without our truth?” Mainly because you have forgotten what is truth. You think truth may be found in books, in philosophies, in preachings, in teachings. You may even play with the notion that this one truth suits your purposes and that other truths suits your purposes but anything in between does not suit your purposes therefore it may not be truth. And you may even create what we will simply call “truth stew,” thinking that is also the best way to go, a little bit of truth from here, and a little bit of truth from there, mix them all together now and have a nice big truth stew, all the while, still not approaching any truth.
Sumari, Sumafi or otherwise, because the truth is not in any of those things. As we have hinted at before, there is only one place where truth is found and there is only one kind of truth. Regardless of all the hierarchies concerning what is truth, higher truth, lower truth, left truth, right truth, center truth, well done truth, the only thing that is truth it is you. You are and the truth, and you are the meaning that you are so diligently and sometimes hectically searching hither and thither for, as if you can suspend your hithering and thithering here and there, and stop for one moment and let all the concerns of the world go by.
Suspend all of your hooks. Suspend all of your gains or losses. Suspend all of your isms and simply experience being for one moment, without any concerns or worries about what you should be, what should be doing, who you should be and who you should be doing or even what you should be becoming. But none of those things truly matter except that you recognize that you are the truth and the meaning that you are searching for. Such a simple but not necessarily easy approach may impact you in a most profound way, and influences of that impact will reach out through the entire gamut of your human and non-human experiences alike, even though our eyes are closed.
(Laughter)
MARK: That’s an inside joke.
KRIS: Thus, if you take that moment and simply allow that you experience yourself for whom and what you are, the truth and the meaning of life, that you otherwise think exists outside of you, it may indeed dawn upon you that the world is not what you thought it was, but the world is what you are. And if you are the beauty of truth, if you are the beauty of meaning, then what do you think will be the outcome of that experience?
(Pause)
You only find the world a distasteful place, a cruel place, a dirty place, an uninviting place because these are deeper reflections of your thoughts about yourselves. And if you can peel away those labels and recognize them for what they are, you are left with one assumption, therefore one truth, that you are the truth and the meaning that you so seek. And what do you think you will find then if you are the beauty of truth and the beauty of meaning?
MARK: Beauty.
KRIS: Indeed. Everything will be beautiful in all of its forms and aspects. And our most humble challenge to anyone and everyone listening today, tomorrow, and as far into the future as is possible, is to allow that experience. Anything else that you entertain is not truth and is not meaning. Thus that implies that for all of your hard-earned efforts and endeavors to seek truth, you are actually running away from truth. Does that make sense to you?
JOHN: Sure.
KRIS: How is that then for a heavy one? The more you search hither and thither for truth, the more you are actually running away from it.
JOHN: That would be true of meaning as well.
KRIS: Correct. We would simply request that you ponder on this, let it seep deeper into the deep aquifers of your being.
(Pause)
MARK: Done. (Chuckling)
KRIS: And what kind of questions would you have upon this?
JOHN: Well the first thing that comes to my mind, Kris, is that, as you say, I am the truth and the meaning of my life. Now of course Mark over here is the truth and meaning of his life.
KRIS: Absolutely correct.
JOHN: But that’s not an end point, and I mean I don’t sort of say, “okay, that’s it, I was searching for truth and by golly…”
KRIS: It is the point of departure.
JOHN: Yes.
KRIS: For an entirely new experience of reality.
MARK: I loop right back to “whom and what am I” type questions, who and what you are.
KRIS: Indeed. Thus if forever you have entertained the notion that life in general and your life in particular suck the big one, then you may have a revelation that will turn that around because all of your notions about life, except that you are truth and that you are meaning, can be considered speculations and fabrications filling the gap used to avoid dealing with the deeper realities of your be. Does that also make sense? And we did not wish to be heavy-handed.
JOHN: No, no that’s fine Kris, it’s good stuff. The question I have for you is: what’s the relationship between truth and beliefs in the way you’re discussing it here?
KRIS: These, what you call your beliefs are acquired truths.
JOHN: Right. So it wouldn’t for instance.. so as I understand that I’m the truth and the meaning of my life, that doesn’t translate into beliefs, beliefs are energetic constructions that I have about life.
KRIS: That is correct. Thus they are translations and not life. They are your presuppositions about life.
JOHN: Right.
KRIS: Unfortunately, most individuals base their existence upon the presuppositions.
JOHN: Well you know, we’re taught as, from children onward that that’s what the deal is, and get a job and get out there and have a family and that’s what life is about.
KRIS: And for some that is the acquired truth and any other revelations that come from deeper within usually end up conflicting with the acquired, and the welling truth may get suppressed even more because it may bring up fears – that is indeed what your stresses are – your individual and collective stresses are your responses to fears. It may be fear of change, fear of loss, fear of fear and so on and so forth, and it can include fear of truth, that is why you would prefer to seek the truth high and low, here and there.
JOHN: Well I twig to your use of the word “welling, the truth welling up within us” is…
KRIS: Correct.
JOHN: …now that really gives me a clear bead on the idea that it’s not a static truth, it’s a continually, so that the truth of me and meaning of me today is not gonna… what… I gotta be paying attention because tomorrow morning that’s all gonna be different.
KRIS: And yet familiar.
JOHN: Yeah, well it’ll still be the truth of me.
KRIS: That is correct.
JOHN: So I’ll recognize it.
KRIS: Now, what defines you is an ever-expanding truth. You are multidimensional beings, so truth is not a finished state but one that continuously and forever evolves into its own nature.
JOHN: Well that makes truth multidimensional too.
KRIS: Correct.
JOHN: And meaning is also multidimensional.
KRIS: That is correct because you are multidimensional beings. Thus, truth and meaning are not a finished product but they are the threshold to great adventures.
JOHN: Well I like that, that’s very helpful for me, and it sinks with what I’ve been exploring lately. So that for instance if I… let’s say I’ve got a pain in my foot and I say “okay what’s the meaning of that pain in my foot” and I get some kind of an image or something, and I say “okay I’ve got the meaning, on we go.” What I’m hearing and what am exploring and discovering is, that there’s no, there’s no end to the meaning of that, the meeting goes on layer upon layer upon layer, I could discover the meaning of the whole universe by exploring the meaning of my sore foot if wanted to go that far.
KRIS: And a further interesting aside is that very often, especially in your new age phenomenon, individuals seek their interpretation of the highest truth as Essence, and they are firmly convinced that as soon as they acquire that truth and knowledge then they will go (let’s out an audible sigh) “sigh, now it is all done.”
We may present the idea that on contrary, it is merely the beginning. Let us say that as a child, perhaps in this analogy, growing up in poverty where few things are afforded, suddenly going to town, the big city, and coming across a bonbon shop, you can bet your bonbons that this child will literally be drooling at all of the delicious and colorful candies surrounding him on all sides. Consider that when you actually begin to experience those greater dimensions of your own being, your own truth, your own meaning, you become like the child in the bonbon shop. It is the beginning of the adventure, not the end, it is not the end point, it is not the destination, it is a continuing journey, your human adventures and experiences do continue.
JOHN: And are expanded and enriched and greater depth and meaning!
KRIS: Correct.
MARK: And it’s one thing to be a kid in a candy store, looking at all the candies, but stopping to taste, to smell, to feel, experience…
KRIS: Then consider that in this analogy, the child has inherited the bonbon shop for a great uncle.
MARK: Willy Wonka.
JOHN: Wonderful.
KRIS: Now what is the time?
MARK: Twenty (minutes) to (the hour).
KRIS: Then perhaps a small break in case you want to get a bonbon or two.
(Musical and commercial break)
MARK: Welcome back to Kris radio here on thatradio.com. My name is Mark Bukator and we have been speaking the truth.
JOHN: We have been.
MARK: Now there was…
SERGE: I remember that, and that’s the truth! Blthh! [Lilly Tomlin joke.]
(Chuckling)
MARK: Now there is something we need to explain, and that was the inside joke.
JOHN: Yes, what happened was, over dinner tonight, I said to Serge and Mark, of course Kris listens in on these things, we realize that now, I was saying to them, “you know I hope he uses the word gamut tonight” because a couple of weeks ago, I pointed out, in a very friendly way, to the boys while we were having our Valentine’s Day dinner as a matter of fact, that Kris consistently uses the word “gambit” when he really means the word “gamut” and I also mentioned that he consistently uses the word “infer” and “imply” …
MARK: Wrong.
JOHN: …wrong, which is very common, very, very common. Well since that time, he’s used the word “infer” at least three or four times…
MARK: Correctly.
JOHN: Correctly, and tonight, the sly old guy used the word “gamut” correctly.
MARK: Now I do believe we have a Matt back on the line?
MATT: Yeah I’m just taking in the English lesson.
KRIS: Indeed and we are not certain what Sohars is inferring.
(Laughter)
JOHN: What I’m inferring, and which you’re very wise, you know, is that… well, I’m not sure exactly what I’m inferring because it was almost as… well, you know, welcome back.
KRIS: Indeed. Perhaps there are interesting inquiries on our little subject matter?
MARK: Matt?
MATT: We don’t have it inquiries here, any Skypies, if you wanna send me questions, I’d love to see them.
JOHN: Well I will kick in a question here, there’s… last count there’s about 6 billion people on the planet, so that would mean that there’s 6 billion truths, since everyone of them is the truth on to themselves.
KRIS: We trust you do not have a problem with that.
JOHN: I have no problem with that at all, I’m used… I’m getting used to the idea of unlimited-ness.
KRIS: And at the same time there is only one truth.
JOHN: I know, isn’t that, doesn’t that just get you? Both are true at the same time.
KRIS: Correct.
JOHN: And so, and it’s that, the fact that I’m able to straddle in my consciousness those kinds of contradictions, means that at my heart, in my, at the root of me, in Source, that I am happily, easily, gleefully straddling those contradictions and more.
KRIS: Indeed and the implications are fascinating.
JOHN: Yes, what fascinating implications occur to you?
KRIS: For one thing, the state of moving outside the realm of “this has to be the truth therefore this is not the truth”, moving away from this kind of an approach which is strictly stuck within the mental and intellectual states and recognizing that there may be many truths in the one and one truth in the many actually leads you to an expanded, enhanced perception, an expanded and enhanced awareness. That leads to higher consciousness.
JOHN: Right.
KRIS: Building those bridges that straddle or cross those dimensions of “either or” leads into expanded consciousness.
JOHN: Oh that’s very interesting. That makes perfect sense, too. So if you’re stick in the world of “this or that, either or” then you can’t bridge them, you can’t merge them, you can’t straddle, you’re struck there, but if you can happily live with the idea that “that’s true and the opposite is true and in the middle there’s a bunch of other truths that are all welling up there” then that means that your consciousness is freed from being trapped in the black and white world and it can start floating up into a gray… “gray” is a bad word… a more colorful world.
KRIS: That is an area then that merits much more exploration. Specifically that, clarifying the subject of truth as we have defined it can be of assistance. Now we have said that “you are truth.” We did not say, “what you think is truth, what you do is truth,” these are all accoutrements of your own experiences, they are effects of you but you are different from all of these things. These things will come and go but you are what you are. Does that make some sense?
JOHN: U-huh yeah, it’s good. It’s very good. And you know, this may sound slightly out of left field but I’m looking at the presidential race in the States, and I’m thinking that it used to be that you had to be a, basically a white man to be the President of the United States, I mean it was, that was just a fact, but now that they are moving beyond the “yes and no” of that into a much richer, more subtle space where a black man and possibly a white woman are considered for the presidency really is an outward expression of the fact that their own consciousness has expanded.
KRIS: And it is reaching out to those more subtle states of awareness. It is indeed a reflection of many people’s rethinking their presuppositions about what life is or is not.
JOHN: Right.
KRIS: And even though there may be conflicts about this subject matter, even though some individuals find the possibilities abominations in themselves because it changes the status quo, even those individuals are in a position where their contemplation of the possibilities triggers an abreaction, an adverse reaction. That in itself may initially appear conflicting, chaotic, because they are reorganizing their own presuppositions. Thus in the long run, that also brings healing and nurturing and balancing. Are there any other inquiries?
MATT: I have a question about truth. Would different personality styles that are more geared to following rules and more black and white thinking have a more difficult time of understanding truth, and the second part of my question is, what can we do to trigger a new awareness within us to help us to realize that maybe this it is, you know if we encounter a situation that we could actually say to ourselves “maybe this isn’t the truth as I thought it might be” and give us a… I guess a wider spectrum of what our truth could really be, to look at you know, our real truth.
KRIS: Perhaps we will condense all of that.
MATT: Good.
KRIS: Irregardless of the personality type, at of the upper layers of the personality structure according to type, individuals organize their presuppositions about reality according to their own principles. However, these again are not truths, they are presuppositions. It is like saying that the map of Chicago is Chicago. Do you follow so far?
MATT: Absolutely.
KRIS: Beneath those layers and layers and layers of presuppositions lies the greatest truth of all, simply that the individual is the truth, is the meaning that he or she is seeking. Thus comes an understanding that indeed, the presuppositions are not the truth, they are not reality, they are simply interpretations based upon presuppositions. The truth is none of these things, they are reflections upon truth, upon self, but self is truth. Does that answer your inquiry?
MATT: Partially. I wanted to know what could we do, cause as I know that most people operate out of habit and you know we get stuck in a way of looking at our lives, or looking at our perception of reality, is there something that we can say to ourselves or some type of thing that we can do to pull us out of that and give us more choices or better choices?
KRIS: We believe that this presentation this evening in itself might be sufficient to kick-start the process. There will eventually be a small situation of crisis, chaos and perhaps even temporary confusion until the individual decides to allow an end to the struggle and simply reflect upon the fact that the individual is the truth and the meaning that he or she is seeking in life, that may be all that is necessary. From that, there might be different systems that can be developed, understanding that behind all of the presuppositions, all of the notions about reality, all of the belief systems about reality, none of these are truths in the sense that we use it.
Even the notion that there might be the truth as presented in many religions, even that is not truth, that is interpretation, that is a presupposition, it is not truth at all, it is a project projection based upon presuppositions and interpretations by individuals and groups and nations. Beneath all of that like the truth in its simplest form, the individual, the Self, that is truth and meaning. It will not be found in religions or spirituality even, these are other venues that seek to bring the individual to recognize that at the bottom of the barrel is the truth and the meaning that they are seeking. What is the time?
MARK: We have about one minute.
KRIS: Indeed then, we thank you all for opening yourselves to the possibility that you are truth and meaning. As such, contemplating, allowing this to trickle down deep into your lovely inner selves, trusting that the Inner Self will bring about necessary venues, necessary means to make this part of your life would begin the process. And we thank you for your truth and your meaning in consideration.
MARK: Thank you.
JOHN: Thank you Kris.
MATT: Thanks Kris.
MARK: Thanks Matt and Nicole and Marlene and Alan.
MATT: Thanks Mark.
MARK: Thanks to Hugh and Randy. Thanks for tuning in to Kris Radio here on thatradio.com, and stay tune for “Spiritualism and the New Age” with Katharine Macdonald! Goodnight.
MATT: See you in two days!
(End of session)
Tetrahedron
February 24, 2008
Kris Chronicles – Tetrahedron
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Ellen Gilbert (Kwaa’Ji)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on Sunday, February 24, 2008
Roll Call: Serge (Joseph), Mark (Philip), John (Sohars) and David (Elohim)
(7:46 PM)
KRIS: Now we trust that you are comfortable and we thank you for your consideration.
MARK: Thank you.
KRIS: Over these many years and over the periods of time that you have listened and shared with us there have been many different topics of conversation, ideas presented, concepts explored, and all manner of such venues discussed and there will likely be as many more for many more years to come.
JOHN: Happy thought!
KRIS: We have mentioned on a few occasions lately that information as you call it does not arrive or land in your field of awareness exactly in the same way that you perceive it. You may perceive it as a blend of imagery and words and we understand that it can be easy to therefore deduce that this is how information travels and is exchanged. Do you follow?
(Yes)
Now we have mentioned that before it comes in contact with your field of awareness or your energy, as you are often prone to describe it, that these ideas, this information, the material, including any idea or concept as you interpret it is actually very, very different than the way you translate it. We have described it — a geometrical formation — do you recall?
MARK: Yes. Tetrahedron.
KRIS: Indeed. As such, since it can be described as a geometric formation, it therefore has certain dimensions of its own. Would that make sense to you?
(Yes)
In some manner it could even be said to be measurable, though not necessarily with the instruments that you now have to measure even molecules, but rather with formula… and not baby’s formula!
(Group chuckling)
That is an entirely different concept altogether. Now, as you well know, Joseph does not have any kind of vocabulary that can be utilized to these ends so we must make do to the best of our ability to convey the information in a manner that still retains a kind of integrity along those lines at least. Now it could be said rather easily that since the universe itself is composed of information, the universe itself being…. we are looking for a word…. (Long pause)…. unfortunately, there is no word available for the time being. However, since the universe itself is a concept and fits the definition or description that we have given it in terms of units of information as opposed to merely units of consciousness — units of information being composed of units of consciousness designed specifically to allow the carrying of concepts of information. Does that make some sense to you?
(Yes)
JOHN: Yes, sure… sort of a medium within which ideas can be.
KRIS: Indeed, in a format readily exchanged with the field of awareness or consciousness of the individual.
DAVID: Tailor made.
KRIS: Indeed. It is designed in such a fashion that regardless of the individual, information can always reach the individual. Thus these units of information acquire a shape similar to or as a tetrahedron that can then be more readily absorbed and translated by individuals. This can imply readily that units of information have a very specific quantum, measurable dimensionality. And as we suggested also, the universe itself is a such unit of information as it encapsulates everything within the consciousness of the individual that creates that universe and of the individuals that jointly create the [universe] and multiple universes. Does that make some sense to you?
JOHN: Okay…. in a kind of a holographic sense?
KRIS: Indeed.
MARK: Everything is included in the one and the one is included in the all.
KRIS: Correct.
JOHN: So is the universe a tetrahedron as well?
KRIS: It is composed of, in terms of a shape, then it would be composed of tetrahedrons that — or it would itself have an affinity to — assume that kind of shape, very similar to various crystals [that] are composed of molecules that contain the very same shape. Do you follow?
JOHN: Yes, absolutely.
MARK: So just for clarity, a tetrahedron is like a pyramid missing one side, because a base of a pyramid is actually square, where a tetrahedron’s base is the same as the rest of the sides, so if you take away the fourth side of the pyramid, three sides and the base are all identical.
JOHN: I need a diagram.
(Laughter)
DAVID: So it’s not a diamond shape?
MARK: So you have a triangle and then the second shape and a third shape — you got three triangles forming a sort of a mini-pyramid, but that means the base, if you turn it upside down, is also a triangle, unlike a pyramid’s, which is square.
Here is an image of a tetrahedron to insert:
JOHN: That reminds me of the Merkabah….Okay.
[A merkabah, or star tetrahedron, is two tetrahedrons meshed together. When seen two-dimensionally it is recognized as the Star of David]
Here are a few images of merkabahs:
http://www.sterngeborene.de/althea/images/Merkabah2.jpg
http://www.gondwana.co.at/gfx/lexikon/merkabah.jpg
http://www.adonim.com/clips/Merkabah.gif
DAVID: Are the corners specific entities? Like one corner would be Mark, one corner would be me, one corner would be John….
KRIS: That would be far too literal an interpretation and much more leeway has to be given. No particular corner itself is any individual and yet, the universe can be any individual altogether. This is not necessarily a clear-cut approach. Thus, in a certain fashion, the universe itself can be considered as mathematically accurate, not necessarily from the same viewpoint as a mathematician might like to put it on the blackboard, but similar formulae can be utilized especially if it is already known that the universe may have a tendency to be tetrahedron in shape. Does that also make sense?
MARK: Yes.
KRIS: Now in the transcription, you can remove many of these. Does that also make sense?
MARK: (Chuckling)
KRIS: And since units of information are based upon that shape — a tetrahedron — it can also be assumed that at the tiniest level, the quanta in your physicist’s terms, you yourselves are composed along similar lines, though you can thank your lucky stars that you do not have pointy heads! You have learned to smooth out the rough edges as it were. The smallest possible connections, in your own connective tissue and in your own nervous system are also aligned in a similar manner. Now we suggested some time back that the molecular structure of the tissue that composes the fasciae or connective tissue resembles the crystalline alignment of the quartz crystal. Do you recall?
JOHN: Absolutely. It’s what we use to communicate with each other.
KRIS: Indeed, thus at the quanta level, those very crystals are themselves aligned along a tetrahedron structure, very nicely and closely knit together in such a fashion that information may be delivered much faster than through your nervous system. So you have two means of communication within you: your nervous system and connective tissue which is more closely aligned with your consciousness. Do you follow?
DAVID: Connective tissue is more closely aligned to consciousness versus the nervous system?
KRIS: Correct.
DAVID: Thank you.
KRIS: That gives you a kind of advantage when you begin to grasp that your connective tissue, more closely aligned with consciousness, is an extraordinary communication device and that you can utilize this communication device to tap into the greater reserve of your own awareness that is not manifest in terms of your sensory perceptions. Does that make some sense to you?
MARK: Yes.
JOHN: Yes, that’s a fascinating thought.
MARK: I think it actually makes sense for me, because I’ve always understood that it is our nervous system that conveys all that information, through touch or whatever, but obviously if it’s ALL the connective tissue, then it makes so much more sense.
JOHN: So how do we use it, though?
KRIS: That is the key to understanding, first of all that you really never are out of touch with your greater Self, the part or aspects of yourself that are not physically manifest and that has to do with your perspective. Under normal conditions, in what you term normal, everyday life, you interact with the objects of the senses through the senses. Do you follow that?
JOHN: Right on.
KRIS: And you therefore have a tendency to limit those communications through those avenues and none other. But when you understand that the whole of your being, enveloped in your connective tissue — which is not your epidermis, by the way; we need to make that very clear — therefore, this connective tissue is not limited to what your senses tell you is the limits of your form. Do you remember as a youth, child perhaps, when you learned to draw in your coloring book and you are repeatedly told that you must draw within the lines, not outside the lines, and whilst you’re at it, draw real skin color! No purple people, please! Now, in a manner of speaking, you have also accustomed yourselves to thinking of yourselves in that rational and logical way as being encapsulated within your epidermis. WIthin your epidermis is the connective tissue. That tissue is electro-magnetic in nature. Do you follow that?
(Yes)
Again, considering a quartz crystal: it is — how do you say — piezoelectric?
JOHN: That’s how you say it: piezoelectric.
KRIS: Indeed.
JOHN: Electromagnetic light energy… wonderful.
KRIS: Indeed, that is already within your system.
[NOTE: Piezoelectricity: Electricity, or electric polarity, resulting from the application of mechanical pressure on a dielectric crystal. The application of a mechanical stress produces in certain dielectric (electrically non-conducting) crystals an electric polarization (electric dipole moment per cubic meter), which is proportional to this stress. If the crystal is isolated, this polarization manifests itself as a voltage across the crystal, and if the crystal is short-circuited, a flow of charge can be observed during loading. Conversely, application of a voltage between certain faces of the crystal produces a mechanical distortion of the material. This reciprocal relationship is referred to as the piezoelectric effect.]
JOHN: Can I ask a quick question? I hate to get you off, cause you’re on a great roll here. Is that what tingles are? Is that our connective tissue singing?
KRIS: When it is related to communications with Self, yes.
JOHN: Okay.
DAVID: You mean goose bumps, John?
JOHN: Yeah
KRIS: Now that already sets the stage for you having constant communication and therefore interaction and therefore exchange with the whole of your being through this media called connective tissue. Does that make sense?
DAVID: Yes.
JOHN: It’s actually kind of a nice name: connective tissue.
KRIS: Indeed, because it not only connects all parts of the body with each other but it connects you with the greater aspects of your being which are not necessarily physically manifest, at least in the same time and space as you are.
JOHN: Nice!
KRIS: So that connective tissue is also not bound by your interpretation and notions of time and space, so that connective tissue allows you to actually be able to communicate with other focuses, other aspects and the wholeness of your being above and beyond any ideas and conjectures, speculations you have about yourself being little more than this bag of flesh that holds your blood and bones together. Does it make some sense?
(Yes)
You have a built-in device then that allows you to recognize consciousness. Consciousness being that pearl of awareness is directly related to the vibratory rate of the connective tissue. It is crystalline in property and nature, therefore will have a specific oscillation. Does that make sense?
DAVID: It’s a communication device? Our connective tissue?
KRIS: Indeed.
MARK: There’s a known constant where the universe vibrates at… ??? That energy… well, for lack of a better term, vibrates at. I don’t know what it is, I’ve seen it on Star Trek (Chuckling), but I know that it’s out there!
DAVID: Connective tissue is not the skin and it’s not the bone.
KRIS: Indeed, but it is a definite tissue within the body.
JOHN: It’s all the tissue around the muscles that holds everything together.
MARK: But not only that, it even connects molecules to molecules. There are all kinds of connective tissue.
KRIS: It literally keeps your organs in place. That way you do not suddenly have a liver pop out of your ear. It would be most inconvenient! And that way you might not be able to hear our lovely words. Now, the connective tissue with its vibratory capacity can be enhanced by yourselves through many different exercises and it has been done for a very long time in terms of your history. The tonality of the vibration OM tends to set that in motion, if you wish. There are many others. We offered the Seven Circles Yoga, which as an aside, we would suggest that the people attending the conference find a way to familiarize themselves with it.
MARK: Okay.
KRIS: And it may even be that we will suggest it be part of the practices before the course. That particular Seven Circles Yoga was also offered because it allows… you could say the stretching an activation of the connective tissue in all major sectors of the body within a very short amount of time.
JOHN: Yeah, it’s fabulous. I like the Seven Circles.
KRIS: Thus, utilizing the Seven Circles Yoga can put you in touch with the vibration of the connective tissue and in that state, or as you acquire that mood, you can find it much easier to expand your awareness in such a way that your directed and heightened intent opens the doors to increased consciousness. Meditating after the heart rate has returned to normal — because it does raise the cardiovascular system — and after it has returned to normal, still feeling the effects of the increased vibration and awareness of the connective tissue or inner energy if you like, and entering into a meditative mood can very quickly accelerate your awareness of Essence through the properties of this connective tissue.
Now we are offering this in this way this evening, not only to make you aware that you have the means within you to achieve this great connection so many of you seek, but also to bring home again that attempts to discount, diminish and discard your lovely physical selves as being an inconvenience to your spiritual development will definitely turn against you, since within your physical form is an attuning instrument that puts you in the vibratory space where you can rapidly and readily connect with that expanded awareness that you call Essence, Source. Higher Self. Inner Self. There are many descriptives. Does that make sense to you and you too?
DAVID: Yes it does.
JOHN: Well, I can hardly wait to try that!
KRIS: We are glad we do not have to re-interpret that for you!
(Chuckling)
KRIS: So many individuals are looking for quick means to achieve some form of expansion of awareness, running here, there, for the latest greatest revelations and secrets, most of which actually promise great achievements and deliver very small experiences. So this provides you with the ability to access your own threshold or gateway to inner experiences. In many instances you could easily, as you enter a meditative mood following the Seven Circles Yoga, actually visualize as best you can, a tetrahedron in such a manner as you enter the geometric form and allow your consciousness the freedom it requires.
In other words, stretch your wings. Stretch your psychological legs and begin to experience new heights of self-awareness. It is also very, very often said that you are all one. Everything, everyone is one. There is nothing but a big oneness. For many that parrot these kinds of words, there is actually little more than sentimentalism behind the words. Little more than a romantic ideal, but in another way, there is also a great deal of truth in a very real way. Your connective tissue is like that of everyone else’s connective tissue. It is composed of the same structure. Everyone’s connective tissue vibrates within the same range of frequencies. That is why, for instance, regardless of how many people you have in a room, within moments, everyone’s heart rate will stabilize together.
JOHN: I didn’t know that!
KRIS: Indeed. Your connective tissue is the same as everyone else’s connective tissue, therefore, through the properties of the connective tissue you do experience a kind of oneness.
JOHN: That’s a whole lot of connective tissue!
KRIS: Indeed. More connective tissue than Campbell Soup would know how to can. (Group chuckling) But through this connective tissue you have then the energetic means to connect with everyone else so you could say then that your Yuen method functions because of the properties of the connective tissue. You could say the same for all modalities because it is not a method that actually does anything, but the ideas, the concepts and the energies that you would be holding that enables another to shift their paradigm.
JOHN: Ahh, so you shift your own paradigm a little bit and your connective tissue sends out a message and their connective tissue says “Ah! Not a bad idea!” and they shift their –
KRIS: In so many words, yes. In exactly the same way that several people in the same room very quickly establish the same heart rate.
JOHN: I’ve heard that about women’s periods. If women live together for a period of time, they all end up with the same period. I hadn’t heard about heart rates.
KRIS: Indeed.
MARK: There must be exceptions to that rule, though. When I go to the gym and I’m working out on the treadmill and the guy next to me is standing there watching, he doesn’t have the increased heart rate.
JOHN: But it might be a resonant heart rate, like yours might be one and a half times his, you know what I’m saying? In resonance?
MARK: Yeah, I understand.
KRIS: There will always be resonances because each of you by gratuity of your connective tissue, resonate. You cannot not resonate.
DAVID: At what threshold doesn’t the connective tissue resonate? How far am I from John Hawkins before the heart rate –
KRIS: That is irrelevant. You could be thinking of a friend far away and without ever realizing it, the two of you would establish a resonant rate.
JOHN: What I love about this is the connective tissue is tetrahedral, the ideas and thoughts are tetrahedral, the universe is tetrahedral, so of course this really becomes a very, very efficient way to move information around.
KRIS: That is why it is so easy in many ways for you to extract electricity from the elements, from nature, because electricity also follows a similar pattern.
JOHN: That’s getting back to that piezoelec — whatever that wonderful word was…. I must look that up.
KRIS: Do you have a question?
JOHN: Well, the first question that leaps to my mind is does the connective tissue of animals, horses and cows and ducks, have a slightly different quality?
KRIS: Including worms and ants and termites and monkeys…
JOHN: Yes…
KRIS: There is a similar patterning behavior. Now they would also resonate within their own species, but there will still be connections to others.
JOHN: Different bandwidths of information. Yes, I like that.
KRIS: That is why, in many respects, your own DNA, also composed of the same structure, contains elemental information about every other species in your universe, including what you could easily call the blueprints to create new universes because it is not biological, but it is instead based upon consciousness, units of information which are composed of units of consciousness.
JOHN: Just for fun, how many…. let’s say you’ve got a unit of information. How many units of consciousness make that up in general, or is it just silly to think about it that way?
KRIS: Indeed. The latter.
JOHN: All right. I figured! (Chuckling)
KRIS: Because the units of consciousness would not be static. You would have a constant flow of units of consciousness composing the units of information.
JOHN: Ohh, well that’s a fascinating thought! So it’s the same as the molecules here are constantly switching in and out, but the idea of the bottle maintains its integrity.
KRIS: The idea creates the constant. Thus your ideas of a universe, as we suggested, is also conceptual, then creates the apparent form.
JOHN: And the units of consciousness switch in and out of that as they wish.
KRIS: Indeed, each for their own purpose. They interact with these conceptual forms for their own fulfillment.
JOHN: Aha. As do we.
KRIS: Indeed.
JOHN: Well, that’s fascinating. Very interesting connection to the connective tissue there.
DAVID: With respect to a Yuen practitioner and the connective tissue helping someone remotely, miles away. What is the start point? When does communication –
KRIS: There are no particular start points and there is no real geographical distance, because consciousness is forever in the now. Thus in the moment you would turn your attention to a faraway friend, is when you become aware of that interaction, but it may have been occurring before you began to think of it, much like a dream. As you concentrate your focus on your friend, then the two of you achieve a vibratory similarity that then be your point of communication creating the similarity.
In the Yuen method or any other kind of modality along those similar lines of surrogate work for instance, the accelerated paradigm that you are offering can become a viable alternative to the paradigm your friend is working with which may have proven unsuccessful for the changes they require. They may then be experiencing what you might call a “stuck” state. Thus you are offering an alternative from their stuck state and that may be sufficient to shift their paradigm so that they may have a more welcome outcome. Does that make sense to you?
DAVID: Partly.
KRIS: It is done at the layer of your connective tissue, which includes your individual and collective subconscious. The second mind.
DAVID: Is the Yuen practitioner offering information to the –?
KRIS: It is always an information –
DAVID: Exchange with the patient or friend.
KRIS: Always. Such an exchange can then be considered healing. Does that make sense?
DAVID: Yes.
KRIS: It may not necessarily be viewed in that way specifically by others, but that is also quite fine. Everyone needs to work with their perspective. Any other inquiries? We realize this may be slightly more of a metaphysical presentation than you are accustomed to, but it also assists in greasing up the old cogs in the brain.
JOHN: Oh, don’t ever be shy about getting metaphysical on us, Kris. We like metaphysics!
MARK: We do. We like the scientific too.
JOHN: Yeah, this is fascinating, isn’t it? I’m just waiting to find out where the little skin flap is that opens up and you’ve got the little control panel for the fasciae tissue?… (Group laughter)… Just like David here, you open up the side of his head and there’s little buttons… (Chuckling)
KRIS: This Seven Circles Yoga will actually push all the buttons in the panel.
JOHN: Ah ha! Good! So that’s your panel! Okay.
KRIS: Indeed.
JOHN: Actually, Kris, I just wanted to make a comment on that. I don’t know whether it’s the Seven Circles Yoga, which I’ve been doing quasi faithfully, you know not every day, but regularly. I’ve been doing that since a couple of months ago or more, but also that DNA meditation where we go and find the indentations and unravel them?
KRIS: Indeed.
JOHN: Somehow, between the combinations of those two, something is going on and I’m feeling much better! (Chuckling) It’s hard to describe…
KRIS: Then may we suggest not looking a gift horse in the mouth!
JOHN: (Laughing) Okay!
KRIS: All kidding aside, the practice of the Seven Circles Yoga may have far more to do with your new-found state of wellness than you might understand, simply because you are activating your connective tissue in a way. You are…. perhaps the best way to describe it is when you utilize a piezoelectric lighter, you are rubbing together to create a mild — or not so mild — electrical kind of a charge and this does the same by the movements in the different portions of the body.
JOHN: And it’s also important, I assume, to do the visualization of… this is my wings and my top stuff and this is my water stuff and this is my ground stuff… I get a lot of satisfaction out of going through that process, too.
KRIS: Indeed. It is not unlike those bright sticks at local fairs and –
JOHN: So they start glowing when you stretch them or stress them in some way, so this business gets all my fasciae to light up in that same way. Lovely visualization. I like that!
KRIS: Indeed. You can say then, that you are being all lit up!
MARK: You’re glowing.
JOHN: Well I can definitely perceive… No jokes, gentlemen. After I do the Seven Circles Yoga, there is definitely a different state of consciousness. Definitely. It’s not all in my head — or maybe it is! — But who cares?
KRIS: It matters not, does it?
JOHN: No.
DAVID: What does conscious intent — in the Yuen practition to a friend, does conscious intent add to the connective tissue communication?
KRIS: Then it simply enhances the concentration, basically removing other elements of the mind that may come in and interfere. Because by concentrating your intent, you add energy. You add fuel to the fire. Not unlike as a boy scout rubbing two sticks to make sparks to make fire. If the Boy Scout is constantly distracted then he may not rub the two sticks sufficiently to create any heat, which will make a spark.
DAVID: Right.
KRIS: Thus he has to do nothing but rub the stick so that he makes enough heat to generate sparks which will create flame. Does that make sense?
DAVID: Yes it does.
KRIS: You could say then that your conscious intent allows you to be a good boy scout. Now we suggest a small break. All this metaphysical stuff needs to clear out before we continue.
[The group chats a bit about tetrahedrons, Seven Circle Yoga and piezoelectricity. Kris returns at 8:57 PM]
KRIS: Now we trust that you have enjoyed your pause.
(Yes)
It is possible that this material delivered this evening may create more questions than anything it can answer, but the point would be that actually performing the yoga for a dedicated amount of time will actually begin to show results. And again, we have never asked anyone to do anything that they would not desire and here what we are simply suggesting is that speculation and discussion and intellectualization will NOT produce the results that actually performing the yoga will give you. Therefore this is NOT a mental exercise alone, but one that requires the effects of the physical body. That is when you will begin to reap the rewards.
You may discover on your own that this actually adds a very different dimension of meaning to your existence due to its awareness expanding benefits. Thus as we suggested earlier, the very idea that you could dramatically expand your awareness by minimizing your interactions with your physical world would be counter-productive. You have created your physical form with amazing properties built right into it that can actually open the doors to higher consciousness. Why not make use of that very thing that you have created for that purpose? Are there any questions or inquiries?
JOHN: Why not do it twice a day?
KRIS: That is entirely up to you. You can also do anything else twice a day.
JOHN: I guess the question should be would there be a concomitant value in acceleration with that, I mean, is it going to get twice as good?
KRIS: Only if you also stick to your regimen of meditation afterwards. Because if on the one hand, say, you decide to bake twice as many cakes as you normally do, but still only eat at the rate of your one-cake practice, you are going to have many cakes and no one to eat them.
JOHN: Right. Piling up unused cakes. Well, that’s wonderful to hear. I haven’t even been meditating afterwards. I mean I’m only getting half the… (Chuckling)… but still, honestly I do feel there’s a definite difference, which is hard to put your finger on, but….
KRIS: Once one is accustomed to the feel, the mood generated within the meditation within the tetrahedron, then you may begin to make use of that great, powerful creation engine that you have: Your imagination. And in this way begin to visualize or see — or as some prefer, feel even — intended outcomes. Thus, conscious intent will definitely be super-charged. Does that make sense to you?
(Yes)
Many people are wont to spend prescribed seventeen seconds, twenty-five minutes, or something else, visualizing or focusing upon something else while doing the ironing, while watching the kids, watching the television, watching the dog, feeding the husband, getting ready for work, putting on the make-up, driving — all together sometimes! — Convinced that they have done what is required for a concerted concentration towards their desired outcome. What do you think someone doing that will get?
MARK: Lots more driving the kids, making the dinner….
KRIS: And perhaps a great allotment of frustration and feeling let down. Of course, such an individual would likely say that the fact that they also thought about feeding the kids and the television and the dog and the husband and putting on the make-up and driving should not have anything to do with interfering with their intended focus.
JOHN: Well, strictly speaking I can see the value of that idea, but in practical terms, no.
MARK: But there is no intended focus because you’re not focusing.
KRIS: You are focusing on almost everything but. Now, adding conscientious or deliberate focusing on intended outcome whilst in the mood of the tetrahedron after doing the yoga will supercharge your abilities because your minds are clear. You are in full mood from the yoga and we can tell you that in a short amount of time, putting this process into practice will give you concentration abilities that may take meditators and yogis YEARS of work to accomplish. This is not a short cut. This also requires work.
JOHN: Where did the Seven Circle Yoga come from?
KRIS: We would say a very ancient culture and that is our story and that is what we are sticking with.
JOHN: Well, I’d like to know more about that ancient culture. I probably have a few focuses there anyway, so I’ll just have to tune into them!
DAVID: With Seven Circle Yoga, is it exactly seven? I mean, if we drift off and do eight, eleven, twelve…?
KRIS: Now, we are of course never militant about any subject matter so if you end up doing nine or ten and you come to that realization, you must be careful, because you will blow up!
(Uproarious laughter)
DAVID: Warn the neighbors?
KRIS: Indeed. In your profession, you might want to insure them!
DAVID: A whole new market!
KRIS: Seven Circles Yoga insurance.
JOHN: All kidding aside though, you won’t necessarily blow up. I just didn’t want… I mean people might read that and….
KRIS: Indeed, if you go over seven there is no need to worry. We suggest this as at least the basic. Seven times. Now it does not mean that now you must do twenty times, but a minimum of seven circles each will provide the maximum benefits.
DAVID: The tetrahedron. Are we sitting inside it? A few meters big?
KRIS: It can be as small as a molecule of your thoughts and your own image enters into it. Thus its size truly doesn’t affect the potency. It is your intent that is primordial. You could very well in this very moment pretend that this discussion in this room is occurring within a tetrahedron and allow the resonance, that feel, to flow through your own connective tissue at this moment. And you may even begin to feel that somehow you notice a resonance within your body….. Notice how gentle your breathing is…. How free of tension your body is…. how clear your mind is…. as if nothing else occupies the mind but the tone of that resonance….
And taking a nice deep breath, you can return to your normal awareness. Open your eyes. How did that feel?
JOHN: Lovely. Focus-centered. Powerful…. Hmmm. Tetrahedron… (Chuckling)
KRIS: Any other inquiries?… (Pause)… Therefore shall we return Joseph to you and let you enjoy the rest of your evening?
JOHN: I think that would be lovely and thank you Kris and you enjoy the rest of your evening, too.
KRIS: Indeed, and may your sleep be filled with wonderful resonances.
(Session ends at 9:12 PM)
Under New Management
February 21, 2008
Kris Chronicles – Under New Management
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Lisa Q. Pratt (Lauromar)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on February 21, 2008
MARK: Good evening and welcome to Kris radio here on thatradio.com. My name is Mark Bukator and I am co-hosting tonight with…
JOHN: You’re co-hosting with me, Mark, thank you very much for that lovely introduction and don’t let me forget to introduce Serge this time.
MARK: (laughing) I think you just did.
JOHN: We are also graced with the presence of our dear friend of course, Serge.
SERGE: Thank you. And of course both of you make great co-hosts.
JOHN: Aw.
MARK: And we have a special guest tonight, sitting here on the couch is Myrna!
JOHN: Oh yes!
MARK: Hi Myrna!
MYRNA: Hi guys!
MARK: Do we have anybody in Skype land?
(Pause)
MARK: Not yet.
JOHN: These things evolve.
MARK: Hello, Matt and Nicole?
MATT: (faintly) Can you hear us? (Kris radio music playing from the lag time)
JOHN: There we go, something.
MATT: Can you hear us?
MARK: Yeah, you’re coming through a little bit.
MATT: Alrighty then.
NICOLE: Alright! We are here!
MATT: We are here, ready for another exciting show and welcome Myrna!
NICOLE: Myrna! Alright!
MYRNA: Hi Matt, hi Nicole.
NICOLE: Hi!
MYRNA: Hi!
MARK: So what’s the weather like down there?
MATT: 72 degrees I believe… room temperature!
SERGE: You could be more precise?
(laughter)
MARK: We are so looking forward…
NICOLE: It is wonderful, the sun is shining right now.
MARK: The sun is shining right now?
SERGE: You’re gonna pay for that.
NICOLE: Oh yeah, it’s the beautiful, it’s the beautiful evening light, you know the golden light as it come across the palm trees and the water fountain, and it’s just… oh it’s so pretty out here, and the birds are singing and chirping and having dinner.
SERGE: You know of course you’re gonna pay for that, we’re gonna go down and share it.
(Chuckling)
MATT: 10 more days, I’m gonna be picking you two up from the airport.
MARK: Sweet.
MATT: 10 days.
MARK: We are really, really excited about this. And anybody out there that has been planning to attend and has not reserved yet, do so now. Time is running out.
MATT: Absolutely, it’s gonna be great and we are in the process of finalizing all the menus and everything, we’re getting real excited to have you guys all here.
NICOLE: Just fill out that little flier you probably got yesterday, just confirmation and tidbits, information that we need from you, for your airlines and what kind of food and your preferences and things like that. So for those of you are coming, if you would please get that off to us ASAP, so that we can get everything all perfect for you when you arrive.
MARK: Yeah, actually John and I were talking about that with this evening, I think we will be
e-mailing everybody as well and giving them a little bit of insight and guidelines: what to wear and what to bring and so on and so forth, so expect an e-mail from us as well.
MATT: Good, well that’s great. It’s usually… during the daytime it’s about… it’s gonna be between 70 to 75, and at night it cools off quite a bit, it’ll get down to like maybe 45 to 50, so we… typically in the evening we’ll be hanging out, we’ve got some heaters and fireplaces and stuff, but you probably wanna bring like a sweatshirt or you know, and some jeans, and then you know, maybe some shorts for the afternoons, so dress in layers.
MARK: (Nicole talking at the same time) Now everybody should be aware that this is a parka-free zone.
(Laughter)
MATT: Parka-free. We don’t even know what those are, you can’t even get those down here.
(Laughter)
MARK: Sorry to cut you off, Nicole what were you going to say?
(Silence)
JOHN: It’s gone now.
MARK: No? Are you still there?
MATT: Yup we’re right here.
MARK: Oh. What was…
NICOLE: Can you hear me?
MARK: Yeah go ahead.
NICOLE: Okay, and make sure that you bring comfortable shoes or tennis shoes because when we go hiking and go for our day in Sedona… (cuts out)
SERGE: Oh, they’re cutting out.
MARK: You’re cutting out again.
NICOLE: (cutting in and out) ..Sedona… make sure you bring… stuck to the bottom of your shoes, you can have it as a souvenir.
JOHN: Okay, we’ll get right on that.
(Laughter)
JOHN: What did she say? Unfortunately…
MATT: And…
MARK: Hold on.
JOHN: Unfortunately Nicole, you’re cutting out and we only got about a third or…
MARK: Every other vowel went missing.
(Laughter)
NICOLE: Oh no! Okay.
JOHN: I’m sorry!
SERGE: Is that laptop downloading stuff?
MATT: No.
SERGE: Ah, okay. (Chuckling)
MARK: (Mark and Matt talking at the same time) Well we did understand “wear comfortable shoes” especially while hiking.
JOHN: And something about getting gum stuck on your shoes or something?
NICOLE: No, dirt. Like red, red rock dirt.
MARK: Okay. We do have a whole host of events, there’s different packages of course, and some people will be staying for five days and four days and so on, but over the course of those five days we have a cocktail parties, and we have “Come As You Were” parties where you dress up as a reincarnational self, we’re going to have trips into Cave Creek and to Sedona and to Marlene’s house, to her back yard, so there’s going to be all kinds of really fun events… On top of the two-day Kris workshop. It’s going to be really fun.
NICOLE: You know what else is cool? Can you hear me?
MARK: Yup.
NICOLE: We have some friends that are driving their RV down from Calgary, Alberta.
MARK: Wow, sweet.
NICOLE: And they’re coming for the retreat, so they’re really excited.
MATT: They’re coming out of the woodwork for this one.
(Laughter)
SERGE: Who are they?
JOHN: Jim and Mavis?
MATT: They’re some friends that we met when we were in Banff two years ago…
SERGE: Oh! Cool.
MATT: ..and we’ve exchanged e-mails and they’re coming, they wouldn’t miss it! They’re looking forward to it.
SERGE: Awesome.
MARK: Wow. While I’ve got everybody’s attention too, the Consciousness Mentoring Institute will be starting up again, the CMI will be starting up again in April. Now the second semester, as I like to call it, in order to participate in the second semester you will to have… to need to have completed semester one which is now available online. You can download all the audio files and the typed transcripts, you can read it, listen to it, do the meditations and catch up before April and then we can jump into season two, semester two.
(Silence)
JOHN: Well that sounds like it’s going to be fun, I’m looking forward to CMI, the second season, that’s a reality TV show, isn’t it?
MARK: (Chuckling) Yeah it is.
JOHN: The second season of CMI.
SERGE: It’s like “CSI Vegas”.
(Laughter)
SERGE: CMI reality.
MARK: “CMI Toronto” …or the world.
JOHN: Well that will be just lovely.
MARK: Also, the dream workshops are almost complete, we’ve got one more for North America group and a couple more for the European group and once those are complete, those will be available for download as well.
JOHN: Ah, good.
SERGE: And from the feedback in the discussions we’ve gotten, there’s possibly only one other source of information that has ever dealt as deeply into dreams in the last probably 50 + years and that would be Seth. So what Kris shared in dream material is quite phenomenal, in fact one of the participants in the workshop has been reading Seth for the last 30 years and has read almost everything there is on dreams…
MARK: Monroe Institute.
SERGE: …and Monroe Institute, the whole bit, and he figured that it would be a real challenge for Kris to come up with anything that he hasn’t heard, and Kris managed to blow him out of the water.
MARK: In fact there wasn’t anything that was a repeat or rehash of what he knew or heard before.
SERGE: Yup.
MATT: I guess that’s easy if you know everything.
(Laughter)
MARK: Or have access to it at least.
MATT: Yeah.
(Sound in the background)
SERGE: What was that?
(Voice talking in the background)
MARK: Glitch.
MATT: Hey Mark, are the dream programs going to be available on audio as well?
SERGE: Yup.
MARK: They will be, once they’re complete.
MATT: Wonderful.
MARK: So people can catch up on those, cause those, like we were just saying, are phenomenal. There’s a lot of material… I spent two years working on the book with Kris on dreams and there’s new material in this that just takes it to a whole new level.
JOHN: Doesn’t that piss you off? I mean are you gonna put it into the book or what are you gonna do?
MARK: Or volume two.
SERGE: There’s enough there for an entire book.
JOHN: Oh fine, good.
SERGE: You figure eight evenings at almost, almost two hours of talk.
JOHN: Wow.
SERGE: That’s 16 hours.
MARK: Meditations, so you can’t, it’s hard to get those meditations into the book.
SERGE: That’s… one hour is about 12 pages of text, more or less?
MARK: Can be.
SERGE: Between 10 and 12? So it’s a lot of material again.
JOHN: 160 to 200 pages, just the text!
SERGE: Yeah.
JOHN: Then there’s the commentary, should we want to comment upon it.
MARK: Indeed.
JOHN: Of course it’s my strength. Well I didn’t take the dream program but I’m very happy to think that I can you know, pay my fee and download it and do it on my own time… in my dreams.
(Chuckling)
SERGE: Yes, in your dreams.
(Laughter)
MARK: It’s worth it, it’s definitely worth it.
JOHN: Well you know it’s funny, dreams have not been… I saw somebody mentioning that dreams…dreams are just not… I trust myself to deal with the dreams, dream material, without really bringing it very much to consciousness? Although, obviously there’s tremendous value in doing that… I’m really just…
MARK: Filling space?
JOHN: Yes.
MARK: You’re doing it so well.
JOHN: It’s working though, it’s working, we’re going to have a visitor.
(Pause)
KRIS: Now we trust that you are comfortable and we thank you for your consideration.
MARK: Thank you.
KRIS: Now Sohars had a most interesting little comment earlier at your little dinner time.
MARK: Just one? (Chuckling)
KRIS: Amongst many, but this one, though meant to be most comical, also strikes a very deep sentiment. Do you have any idea which one that might be?
JOHN: We were talking about trusting.
MARK: And tolerance… not tolerating tolerance. (Chuckling)
JOHN: Yeah that’s right, right, right. That might be it, yeah, where The 519 hands this, has his handout at the beginning of every meeting that lists, in the interest of being tolerant, that these are the 10 things that get kicked out of the building.
[MARK'S NOTES: The 519 is a local Community Center that is named after its street address, 519 Church Street.]
(Laughter)
JOHN: Was that it?
KRIS: What we were referring to is your very pleasant note in mentioning that the universe is now under new management.
(Laughter)
JOHN: Right.
MARK: Oh that one!
KRIS: If you launch your playful energies, you can indeed have a great deal of fun with this because not only can it be very well applied but also provide a perspective that can nudge your paradigm ever so gently into a different zone. Consider how you normally interpret the universe as being under the management of perhaps a supernatural being or forces that you have no control over, that someone does the management, and unfortunately you are perhaps just another number, much like your present governmental systems. Does that make sense?
JOHN: Absolutely.
MARK: Absolutely.
JOHN: Right, and sometimes we wonder at the management of the universe.
KRIS: Indeed. Now if you take your perspective into account and actually turned the situation around, that the universe is now under new management, that it is under your management, your individualized management, the universe of your experiences and your reality, because that is all it can truly be, is YOUR universe, is now under the management of yourself, and act accordingly. That energy, which launches the entire affairs of this particular universe of yours, is run on your emotional and feeling tones, it is run through the filters, your beliefs, your presuppositions. It is organized by your own governments and policies. You have set up the laws and regulations that make it what it is that you experience. Do you follow?
JOHN: Yes.
MARK: Indeed.
JOHN: We wrote the “policy and procedure” manual.
KRIS: Indeed. In a fun manner, you can play with the topic and discover much about your own inner government, your inner governance, that which sets the universe up to function as you dictate, through the power of your presuppositions. In this way, you can actually have a powerful impact about how this said universe, the universe of your experiences and your reality now functions. That you are no longer the recipient of cosmic jokes but that instead everything that happens in your life is as you have designed it. And of course if certain areas of life are not to your particular liking, if you decide and recognize that certain experiences no longer bear the fruits that you anticipated in any way shape or form, then you have the power within you, as being the governing body of your universe, to make the necessary amendments and bylaws to produce a different outcome.
Say for instance you modify the game of Monopoly into this kind of a playful project and instead of buying property on this street or that avenue. You set up experiences. You set up realities. Every time you throw the dice for instance, then that would motivate you to expand upon or explore various aspects of the paradigm that you have created. You might even open up the game to other members, and in this way learn, not with “get out of jail” cards, but modify your belief cards.
(Chuckling)
Pretend you are already experiencing the outcome, and so on and so forth. You can move so many points up or down. It would be interesting for someone to create such a small game.
JOHN: It would!
KRIS: And at the same time, various other cards can contain many different quotes from worthwhile and worthy teachers, and each such card becomes the source of a new inspiration.
JOHN: Yeah that sounds like fun Kris, as a matter of fact, it occurs to me, I mean of course, the universe is my own Monopoly game and I am, I have been… like when you say “read”, that’s what I do, I read some source, I get inspired, and I throw the dice and I create a romantic evening with someone or I throw the dice again and I get a job… we’re already playing this game.
KRIS: Indeed. And creating a kind of a board game can add additional sources of inspiration and insight simply by making it that much more practical for you.
JOHN: Isn’t that interesting… and you know the way I think we design that game is that everybody gets a bunch of beliefs that they don’t like to begin with, and part of the game is to swap those out for believes that you prefer.
MARK: Well instead of “get out of jail free” cards, we can have “solve your challenge” cards.
JOHN: Pick a new belief card, yeah.
KRIS: And in this kind of game, no one ever need lose because everyone is a winner regardless of the outcome because the outcome is the point.
JOHN: Yeah, that sounds like fun!
MARK: And you get rid of that awful banker.
JOHN: Yeah, he’s like the star of Monopoly isn’t he?
(Chuckling)
KRIS: Now all kidding aside, and perhaps not so much kidding, if you do consider even for a few moments that you are the universe’s manager, and act accordingly, or that you are the manager, even the steward of this great display of your energies, you might feel somewhat different about that reality that you create and about the Self that is doing the creating, the managing and the stewarding. And the whole point is to appreciate that great panoramic display in a manner that brings home the great teachings and philosophies and psychology of your Self, making it that much more available to you in an “in-your-face” type of approach. That also can bring about a powerful impact. Any comment?
JOHN: Well I like… this is a fun, fun approach Kris. What occurs to me is that when you see a sign, when you go walk down the street and you see a sign “Under New Management”, as a customer, what that sign is really saying is “hey, you may have had some disappointments in the past here, but we’d like you to come in and give us another try because we’ve got new management.” And likewise, If I’m the owner of the business and I’ve just taken over and I put up the sign “Under New Management,” it’s the same thing. I want people who might have disappointed before to give it another try and see if we can’t maybe do a better job. It implies change, it implies a new… a new manager.
MARK: I was thinking the along the lines that as “manager”, if I could encourage everybody in my little universe to lend some energy, I can promise GREAT renovations and change, we’re going to rebuild this universe just the way you like it!
KRIS: The entire (universe), indeed?
MYRNA: It’s been an interesting experience for me in the past year to… to come to the realization that I indeed am the manager of my own universe. In fact it has frightened the hell out of me. I was talking to Mark and Serge and John tonight about… I don’t have anybody else to fall back on here, it’s… and I don’t say this lightly, I have really been quite frightened by… and excited… but quite frightened by my understanding… beginning the dawn of my understanding of the power that I have to create every moment. And so I’m wondering if there’s some help you could give me as to what to do in those moments. I try and self-soothe and I try and use the tools that I’ve been given, what I can do when I get quite frightened at the largeness of this all, the largeness of me.
KRIS: It is quite likely that there are many other individuals that ponder their very same situation. There is always an element of awe, of excitement, and wanting to hold back somewhat. The idea of experiencing even a portion of that whole Self can at times be intense, can at times even be somewhat unsettling because as a species you have had ingrained into you for a very long time that there is something suspect about having power. You have a rather thorny issue with the beliefs that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Being a powerful being might lead you to forget your humanity. But such beliefs do not necessarily have to be the order of the day, it does not have to be something on the menu of course, the new management can see to that. You can for instance, take advantage of the fact that you are observing yourself, questioning your position with these new adventures, correct?
MYRNA: Yes.
KRIS: That observer or witness within is a threshold to those inner realities that you call the Inner Self, your inner dimensions. You are able to begin the process of slight detachment, being able to separate yourself even slightly and just enough to recognize that you are able to objectify these hesitations and perhaps even note that there is a sense of excitement that wants to rush forth, much more strongly than any fears that you may have, and being able to understand that the various thoughts that you hold do not necessarily have to be believed. They do not represent a truth. They represent perhaps, merely an opinion and a reflection upon old beliefs.
The truth is in the experiencing of your own power. It is not necessarily in the experiencing of your fears relating to that power, there is a subtle but important difference. Thus be able to observe, to capture yourself in the act of reflecting upon the idea does not necessarily make it reality. You can even ask yourself if this is real, if this is absolutely real, and of course it is not. It is merely an opinion and reflection upon beliefs. And if it is not real in that ultimate sense, then only thing that is real in your experience is you, and you are free of fears. That is truth. Do you follow so far?
MYRNA: I’m trying.
KRIS: The fears do not necessarily represent any truth.
MYRNA: Yes, yes I get that.
KRIS: The Self that is observing the process. That is truth. In other words, you are attempting to put it into perspective in such a manner that you can step aside and let the fears be released. For all intents and purposes, all human beings are free in their truth. In fact you are the truth that you seek. Everything else, more or less, is something that you hassle yourselves with. By recognizing the simple point of truth, you can let go of all other things. And that may be far more related to what you sense as a fear, what would you be like if you did not have fear, what would that feel like? What kind of experience would that produce? A Self that is not afraid to be, that does not have to hassle itself in case it needs to hold back because there is no holding back, nor is there any turning back. Do you follow?
MYRNA: Yes.
KRIS: If you consider this one point, that ultimately, the only truth is your Self, and everything else is something that you are hassling yourself with, you might be more apt to release the hassling.
MYRNA: I guess the only, what just crossed my mind is, that you’ve given us, given us or given me a tremendous gift, and I say that, and I realize that of course I’ve given it to myself through you, a tremendous gift… even though last night as I looked up at the moon, I… I thought “you know, I used to have a belief in God, in Goddesses, in Spirit Guides”, and I looked up in the moon, I thought “they’re gone, they’re gone, it’s me.”
KRIS: You could also say that they are never truly gone, they have simply been put into context. They still shine forth, but through your voice, through your eyes, through your words, through your actions, and all of these representations, whether you call them supernatural powers, Gods, Goddesses, divine beings, semi-divine beings, less than divine beings, and so on and so forth, down the ladder, are all various expressions of your energies, various departments in the management of the universe. Does that make sense?
MYRNA: Yes.
KRIS: It does not mean that you cannot allow yourself to wander into these lovely areas, but know that it is you. It is another facet of you. Any other inquiries perhaps?
JOHN: I was just struck by something about “the universe is under new management”, I’m still there. And one of the things that I like, that I extrapolated from what you just said is that one of the mistakes managers make is trying to micromanage, and trying to get in the face of everybody who’s doing the work, that they go and do that work, and then they go and say, “oh, are you sure?” Now one of the things that I like about the way the universe is managed by me, is that I don’t micromanage it. I let vast wads of it take care of their own issues, and do the work any way they like, confident that it’s going to go in the direction that I want. So I like that analogy, it’s growing on me.
KRIS: Indeed and it is specifically those individuals who micromanage that need to put up the sign.
JOHN: (laughing) Right.
KRIS: Then you return to the aforementioned hassling.
JOHN: Right. Oh, and I just have a quickie for you, Myrna mentioned the moon last night and I had a question, if you don’t mind a slight detour, well it’s quite a detour up to the moon and back, but last night we had a full eclipse of the moon. And the question was, if this had any special significance in terms of a mass event and “the shift” that we’re going through.
KRIS: Throughout much of your history’s eclipses of this stature or proportion, whether solar or lunar, have in many ways been portends to upcoming interesting events.
JOHN: Ah!
KRIS: Now, it could also be said that this mechanism, that the collective has utilized to give themselves permissions to introduce change, transformations and new events. Thus you can also consider that this is a new opportunity to look at the way you presently manage your universe and offer yourself a great gift. It is not that the solar or lunar eclipse itself is a predicator of change or social revolution or something of that nature, as much as it is a means for the population that holds those beliefs to give themselves the green light to go ahead with the plans, do you follow?
JOHN: Definitely, definitely. So is there, is there… should we just sort of think about this and say “well what coming up?” You see this is the last one we’re have for 10 years, which is a big chunk of time in our way of thinking, so what in the next little while is gonna happen that is… we’re giving ourselves the excuse to… to manifest because of that full moon?
KRIS: Indeed, and it is for you to find out.
MARK: I know what it is. It is to attend the Kris workshop in Arizona!
JOHN: That’s what it is!
(Chuckling)
JOHN: While that’s good, Kris. Do you mind if I ask you one other question slightly from left field?
KRIS: Please follow.
JOHN: You slipped something into a transcript early in the year, in January 6th. It was… you were discussing how important it was for us to balance patriarchal religious belief systems, and you said that it was by balancing the patriarchal and the male-female energies within us, we get to a unity and that, out of that unity, our creative juices can flow, just to relate it to your theme for the year. But what you said, which I only caught by reading the… re-reading transcript is this: “it is for a very unique reason that you take your birth, all of you at a time of such change in your societies.” And I just wanted to know what that very unique reason was.
KRIS: Indeed. Now perhaps we should also clarify, we never really let anything slip.
JOHN: Yeah.
KRIS: As if somehow or other it escaped. These things are usually rather craftily, if we say so, inserted here and there, awaiting for individuals to find these little treasures. Most individuals often read transcripts of sessions or listen to them and assume that they know what this means, they know what that means, that is usually done at the surface level. Digging a little deeper, you find that there are indeed many implications into these little slip-ups, if you wish, they are not Freudian, you could say they are Krisian.
JOHN: Okay.
KRIS: And by making inquiries you can avail yourself of even more information. And in this case, the comment refers particularly to the manner in which individuals of all religions, of all denominations, of all backgrounds are beginning to experience a greater number of deeper subjective communications, you may call them intuitive, you may call them anything you like, you may even call them something suspect and fearful, depending upon your religious convictions. But notice they will be, do you follow?
JOHN: Right. So you mean everybody on the planet is getting a deeper awareness.
KRIS: To one degree or another, depending upon where the individual is at. And to nudge further, your own Inner Selves, that truth within you seeks to have its small voice heard in one way or another, so individuals are experiencing small changes in their paradigms. They come in many different shades and colors and forms, but come they do, and more will as well. It is why you are in such an interesting period of human history and it is only the leading edge. All of you are in one way or another listening and reading and participating with one teacher or another, you are attempting to deepen your awareness, to broaden your horizons, to gather information and knowledge and grow in wisdom.
(Loud, long honk outside)
(Laughter)
KRIS: Even the universe agrees.
JOHN: Perfect timing, eh?
KRIS: Thus all of that exerts an influence as much as the full moon exerts an influence upon your tides.
JOHN: So I’m getting the feeling that the people who’ve taken their birth at this time, all set an alarm clock before they came through and what we’re getting now is a global wake-up call.
KRIS: Indeed. And even in those areas of life and philosophies that are against these kind of things cannot stop them.
JOHN: Even those people are getting intuitive, deep intuitive insights.
KRIS: Indeed. They may try to suppress them, to medicate themselves, to exorcise themselves in one way or another, but that inner voice will continue to find ways to gently tap you on the shoulder and say “we are here.”
JOHN: Lovely, thank you. That’s a good answer.
KRIS: Indeed.
JOHN: And I’m gonna examine those transcripts with even more of an eagle eye.
KRIS: Indeed and may we inquire as to the time?
MARK: It’s almost 10 (minutes) to (the hour).
KRIS: Are there any other questions, perhaps in the land of Skypism?
MATT: You know I had a question when I was listening to you, I was wondering, is there a way for us to be able to increase our ability to catch ourselves in that act? Is there is like an exercise that we can do to make us better at it?
KRIS: Now if we could provide you all with a pill and to do all that for you, we would gladly do so. Unfortunately such an item does not exist. What does exist is the most appropriate of all mechanisms, and it is built-in to you, and it is part of your ability to notice, to pay attention, to be aware. That particular process is uniquely tailored by each of you for yourselves, and it is the key to unlocking those inner mysteries of your Being.
It is the threshold that gives you access to that deep psychology of your Being that is so vast that it requires unlimited universes, simply to express portions of itself. Thus learning to pay attention, developing awareness of your thoughts, your moods, your energies, your actions, your words, enables you to widen that perception of awareness more and more. And that process is… how do you say… foolproof, and completely safe. Even if you are pregnant and nursing, you can take this.
(Chuckling)
KRIS: Without any side effects for the most part. Though there is usually a side effect. If you begin this, it might indeed require that you get a taste for more.
MARK: Personally I like the fact that you said that since you are the manager of the universe, act accordingly. Two words: “act accordingly”, and how can you be a responsible, not be a responsible manager unless you pay attention to how you are governing and how you are managing.
KRIS: Indeed if you are then the manager of your experience, then you must also consult with your own legal department. And you will find that every legal department has a signature that says “govern yourself accordingly.”
MARK: You definitely need to be aware about what all the departments are doing.
KRIS: Begin with the one you have now.
MARK: Indeed.
MATT: It sounds like the “Straight Little Sapling” from Elias.
KRIS: Indeed. And every little sapling has the potential to become the massive oak orchard or grove.
MARK: Or forest. Any other questions Matt?
MATT: Just… it sounds like it’s a life… sounds like it’s a lifelong journey, it doesn’t sound like you ever really fully get there.
KRIS: If you can imagine for just a moment, each of you developing your awareness, getting to know yourselves more and more, appreciating whom and what you are, exactly as you are, and further imagining that from the perspective of Essence, you are maintaining awareness of and appreciation of countless universes for the simple pleasure and desire of expressing all of your energies, then you can easily surmise that this is not simply at chore or task, but it is part of your nature, it is innate within you and it is the process of life. Thus you cannot necessarily escape it though you can deny it. Does that make sense?
MATT: Yeah, absolutely.
KRIS: So it is part of whom and what you are.
MARK: I also like the fact that we’re not only managing it, we’re designing it, we’re creating it, we’re the creators.
KRIS: Indeed one little experience at that time. Any other lovely inquiries?
JOHN: I’m gonna jump in here, Kris. I have another question from that wonderful transcript that I went over so carefully, from the beginning of the year, and again just to remind us, it was that one where you talked about patriarchal religions and how we needed to balance that overload of testosterone. But you, again, you slipped in something… no, no, no, you carefully planted a wonderful little seed in that transcript and you said that “it’s important for us to understand the patriarchal beliefs, religious belief systems because they permeate our thinking, even though we may feel that we have graduated beyond them and that we’re not religious anymore, we might even be atheists or you know, we’re new age people now, whatever”…
And as an example of the hold over us that these religious belief systems have – the patriarchal – is that you said that your approach to Essence was very similar, our approach to our Essence is very similar to our previous approaches to the various gods and goddesses that we’ve erected.
KRIS: Indeed.
JOHN: And I found that to be a very fascinating idea because I totally admit to the fact that my initial perception of Essence is that it’s hugely powerful, outside of myself, smarter than I am, you know, in every way a God-like thing. Now the question is: what is a more appropriate, less testosterone-laden way of approaching Essence?
KRIS: That may be a very topic for a lengthy discussion. Suffice it to say that the beginning of that process is through appreciation.
JOHN: Ah!
KRIS: Appreciation is a tricky word, it is usually understood that one can appreciate some of their qualities, recognize them for what they are, be somewhat thankful for them, but appreciation has another dimension altogether, it more or less commands your attention when you are in that appreciative zone. Do you follow?
JOHN: Yes.
KRIS: You must notice and the noticing is the key, appreciation is the vessel that allows you to transport the contents of the treasure chest of your Being, the key unlocks.
JOHN: Nice.
KRIS: We spoke last time about “The Pearl of Awareness.”
JOHN: Right.
KRIS: Without that pearl, which is within each and everyone of you, you would be remiss to truly notice and appreciate anything about yourselves except at the most superficial levels. Therefore, dig deeper, dig beneath the props and the everyday items of life and you will find a magnificent, almost too beautiful for words sense of Self. It is much more than poetry in motion. It is in fact the universe expressing itself through the poetry of your Beings, your Being, your life being then as poetry. Does that make sense to you?
JOHN: Yes, that’s a nice beginning, so the beginning of that approach is appreciation and then to allow that appreciation to carry from my depths, a better understanding of who I really am.
KRIS: Indeed, as far as matriarchal and patriarchal perspectives are concerned, you have your collective, has opted to consider them as two completely separate camps, they are not. They are simply different expressions of the same energy. Once they function in unity, then you have an entirely different human being. Thus you will, as you all grow in your own divinity, express that in a completely different fashion. It is not to say that your old battle of the sexes will cease, but it may acquire a totally different flavor. Now what is the time?
MATT: We…
MARK: A couple minutes.
KRIS: Indeed.
MARK: Go ahead Matt.
MATT: We have a little battle of the sexes going on over here on Skypeland, and Alan said “isn’t that why most of the channels appear to be male” and then Nardine jumped in, said “and yet they’re all channeled through females” and it’s kind of interesting to think that most male channels are channeled by females and females are channeled by males, is there any correlation?
KRIS: There could very well be, that is for you to divine. Suffice it to say that everything is not what it seems, and neither are any of you male nor female and neither of you are androgynous, you are none of these things.
MARK: And all of them.
KRIS: They are all expressing different facets of your energy.
MATT: So does that mean that we can change our mind?
(Laughter)
KRIS: Anytime you so desire. Now with that, we thank you all for your lovely consideration and we return you to your lovely male/female androgynous selves.
ALL: Thank you Kris.
MARK: Thanks, Matt and Nicole.
MATT: Thanks once again guys, for having us.
MARK: And thanks to all the Skypies/Skypers. And stay tune for “Spiritualism and the New Age” with Katharine Macdonald! Have a good night.
(End of session)
Private Session with Nardine
February 19, 2008
Kris Chronicles – Private Session with Nardine Neilson
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois
Transcribed by Nardine Neilson (Herakleides)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on February 19, 2008
(Session begins)
Kris: Now then, we trust that you are comfortable.
Nardine: Thank you yes I am. And greetings to you Kris.
Kris: Indeed and we thank you for your consideration.
Nardine: My pleasure.
Kris: And how is Herakleides performing?
Nardine: (Chuckling) Performing very well… on all cylinders.
Kris: Indeed, we understand that you have inquiries.
Nardine: I do if I may.
Kris: Indeed, please feel free to begin.
Nardine: Okay. So that I could have some continuity of thought I’ve typed out something so I’ll read through it if I may, and then I have questions within this.
Much have I been pondering in my mind to clarify my intent and desire in the blessing of this personal conversation with you, and what I would like to experience in this session with your words and energy, is fully knowing and stepping into my oneness with All That Is. Something like a miracle would be wonderful, however; I graciously accept the simple profound resonance of my heart with yours.
I do recognise my patterns of doubting my Godness and my Divinity and I know the life I have chosen, moment-by-moment, has more meaning than I know in this now. In so many ways, I taste the nectar of passion and love that lights my heart inwardly and I am propelled into trust and knowing of such beauty. I want to wholly and fully step into the divine being I am. I want to live this knowing with greater appreciation for myself and to fully experience my creative freedom and expression. When I reflect upon my life, I have ever felt the pull of magic, myth and miracles. I trust the guidance that leads me in every moment. I know I chose all my challenges and opportunities for growth and the fullness of my being.
The greatest area of challenge in my lifetime has been my relationship with my parents. My question is can you give me a deeper understanding of the sacred contract I have with my Mum and Dad as I feel this will assist me in transforming and releasing old patterns of guilt blame and responsibility.
Kris: Indeed, quite an cartful. And you feel up to the task?
Nardine: Indeed.
Kris: Perhaps we may begin by addressing your opening observation.
Nardine: Please.
Kris: Specifically in the wanting to experience the fullness of oneness with source, your divinity.
Nardine: Yes.
Kris: Now do understand that though on the surface there is very little difference between the qualities contained within the drop of water and the qualities contained within the ocean. You can surmise that qualitatively they are one and the same. The only difference is quantitatively, they are not necessarily one and the same in that capacity.
Does that make sense to you?
Nardine: Yes it does.
Kris: Though the drop contains exactly the same elements and chemicals and so on; as the ocean, the drop is not necessarily the ocean, but it is an representation of that ocean. And in an similar vein then there is very little difference in terms of the wholeness and the apparent separate self that you are. You express many of the qualities of that oneness in an individualised fashion.
As we have suggested yet other times in the past, there is an old Bengali saying that states in Bengali “Achyntia Beda Beda Tatva”, which means that one is simultaneously different yet similar to the divine.
You express certain specific qualities of the source, of all being, of self. All perfectly tailored to your own personality traits and characteristics, and the only divisions that exist are those that more or less have been created by yourself, mainly out of necessity. So that whilst you are living your particular unique life expression, you can focus upon and contemplate upon unique aspects of the divine as encapsulated within the boundaries of the definitions of your focus.
What lives inside your heart need not be limited; need not be separated from source. Does that make sense so far?
Nardine: Yes, yes.
Kris: One of the principle obstacles often found in the presuppositions of all human beings is their ideas of what the divine may or may not be. And these ideas may come from all sorts of philosophies and teachings from others that may set up some kind of a precedent, that the divine is this and is that and is the other thing, all things that you apparently are not. And these in themselves are self-imposed limitations that unfortunately often are found within the inventory or the sets of beliefs that one holds. And if you can even temporarily suspend all of these ideas of what source is or is not, where usually you would categorise yourself in the section of is not, source or essence. And you suspend this, you may indeed find that, you; are much more capable of a wider range of connectivity or connections than you previously thought possible.
Many individuals do place this idea of source or inner self or higher self, at such a high level, that it is almost impossible to even reach out to that particular level or platform.
Do you follow?
Nardine: I do, yes.
Kris: And along with that, there are all sorts of notions that are really leftovers from old teachings that imply that the mortal self is something to shun, to divest oneself of and one must rise above the mortal coil.
Do you follow?
Nardine: I do, yes.
Kris: If you want to even pretend that momentarily you can suspend all of these programs, all of these notions, and experience Self, for what you are, you would likely recognise this is much more what essence, what source feels like, because that is always within you.
Do you follow?
Nardine: I do, I understand yes.
Kris: You also mentioned issues of guilt shame blame and so and on and so forth, correct.
Nardine: Yes, yes.
Kris: Often the tendency is to identify with these programs, for that is what they are; to the degree where the individual associates so deeply with those patterns and those behaviours as to be unable to think of oneself in almost any other capacity. Does that make sense?
Nardine: It does, yes.
Kris: And at the same time these are not the problem, these are not the challenge. The challenge is to think or believe that this is what you are all about. And we will give you an clue, if you are able to surmise that you hold such patterns and such belief structures or old programs, then you have already gotten an appreciation for what you can call the witness or the observer within.
Nardine: Yes.
Kris: The observer within is much closer to what you would call that inner self. And since you are able to differentiate yourself from the patterns of guilt and shame and so on, you already have an fairly good inkling that you are not those things that you hold. That you are not those patterns those behaviours.
Nardine: Yes.
Kris: Does that make sense to you?
Nardine: Fully, yes.
Kris: Therefore, it is quite possible that the true challenge is in making use of the capacities and the powers of that observer, in neutralising these old programs that seem to run in spite of your best efforts to shut them down. And that may be the very core of the challenge itself, in thinking that these programs are the problem. And usually the programs themselves; though problematic, are not the problem. The problem or difficulty or challenge, is to recognise that these programs are not you. These programs are not even remotely you. That you have identified with them more than you have identified with the rest of yourself. That may come from your own familial environment where you grew up. Does that also make sense?
Nardine: Understand completely, yes.
Kris: Thus, even as a child you would have patterned yourself according to what you saw and according to what you inferred from both sets of parents. The words they said are actually secondary, also important but secondary to what you inferred.
Does that make sense to you?
Nardine: Yes, it does.
Kris: Do you recall the radio show where we shared the visualisation on the DNA?
Nardine: Yes, yes. Yes and I have been working with it, yes!
Kris: You may for instance the next time you utilise it, suggest to your lovely self that you would also like to utilise this visualisation or meditation to minimise the energies that are sustaining your old beliefs and patterns, and instead focus on generating new behaviour that will result from the new beliefs that you hold.
Nardine: Yes.
Kris: And begin to focus upon that. Begin to implement that anticipating even; that you will notice soon enough that, you are now generating new behaviour in line with your new beliefs or programs that give you much more choice and even variety of choice from which you can determine what direction your consciousness wants to proceed.
Do you follow so far?
Nardine: Yes, I understand.
Kris: The usual tendency for individuals is to notice that there is indeed a variety of patterns and beliefs that are generating inner conflict. And then to begin a war with those beliefs, as if some how or other you are trapped in an tropical jungle of beliefs and that you must at all cost hack your way through the dense forest forever in danger of encountering even bigger inner beasts as it were. That sets up ultimate failure, because you are fighting yourself.
Nardine: Yes.
Kris: The idea being then, that instead of fighting yourself, you begin cooperate with yourself. That you begin noticing the varieties of different beliefs, also called presuppositions, about reality about yourself etcetera. Which all influence your behaviour.
Now if you tackle this at the level of the influences, notice what ideas or beliefs generate certain types of behaviour, and then directly begin to visualise a different outcome of behaviour, and begin to look for those behaviours, you will notice fairly quickly that things are changing for you. It does not need a great amount of worry and fuss. On the contrary, perhaps more noticing and less worrying, more noticing and more doing instead of worrying.
Does that make sense to you as well?
Nardine: Yes, yes I understand.
Kris: We mention this because for many many people; the act of worrying about something is often taken as an equivalent to solving the challenge or problem.
Nardine: Yes.
Kris: And the only thing worrying has ever ever ever accomplished or produced, is more worrying.
Does that make sense?
Nardine: Indeed.
Kris: Plus you are also enquiring about your intent, your purpose, your mission, and how all of this may be tied into where and why you were born to the family that you took birth in, correct?
Nardine: Yes.
Kris: You also mention that such an experience has also left you guilt and shame ridden in varieties of ways. Correct.
Nardine: Yes, yes.
Kris: How far does your memories of your youth go?
Nardine: Back to around five perhaps.
Kris: That is fairly standard. The majority of human beings can remember anywhere between seven, six, five, four-ish fairly easily, anything beyond that can sometimes be rather blurry.
Nardine: Yes.
Kris: Though there are individuals who may remember much more. It does not necessarily make them better or superior than those who can remember less.
During the first few years of life, you learn much more from your mother figure. That becomes the foundation for some of your own belief motivators, that which generates your actions.
Afterwards, for the next several years, the father is then the source of your observations and inferences. As we suggested earlier, it is much less the actions and the words than what is implied by the actions and the words of the parents.
Nardine: Hmm.
Kris: Most everyone would enjoy that their children do what they say, but the children do what they see the parents do, which is an source of conflict often.
Nardine: Yes.
Kris: How do the behaviour of your parents, or how does the behaviour of your parents make you feel?
Nardine: For myself it makes feel… Well, I choose to feel from my father’s behaviour unrecognised, devalued, ah lacking in any manner of worth. And my mother’s behaviour, I feel irritated or annoyed that she does not assert herself, and I feel myself once again devalued by her acceptance of her lessening of her worth in her reality.
Kris: This became then the foundation that your Self was constructed upon as it were.
Nardine: Ah hum.
Kris: When you look within your own self, and you compared what you are to what you felt they expected of you, what do you experience?
Nardine: In my perception from their eyes, great lack, in my perception through my eyes, great love, great purity of heart.
Kris: Would you even consider that what you felt; as a result of what you believe they expected of you, could also be how they grew up?
Nardine: Yes, yes, yes!
Kris: And would that have perhaps a different impact upon you, knowing that they simply followed how they themselves might have been brought up?
Nardine: I already have an awareness and an understanding of their wounded child within. I have an awareness and understanding of knowing they did and always do the best they know how. I have and understanding and awareness of my choosing of them to help me learn all the challenges and opportunities and things I am learning in my life. And whilst recognising my choosing of them, I recognise I did choose these patterns and challenges to grow through.
So I guess in part, coming back to what you highlighted earlier. I don’t actually, I am the ocean within the drop I am. So I’m actually spending a lot of energy and time pursuing healing something that doesn’t really need healing if I simply allow it to be and let it go, and move beyond it. I’m guessing is what I am hearing here. (Chuckling)
Kris: In some ways, you are correct. Now this does not mean that then the sweepings can be hidden underneath the carpet.
Nardine: No.
Kris: There is definitely something that you can do along those lines. For instance, if you took your perceptions, not what you are, but your perceptions of what was expected of you and put them all in your left hand.
Nardine: Yes.
Kris: And held that package in your left hand, would that package or object have any dimension, would it have a weight for instance?
Nardine: In my heart in this moment, I say no. In my heart, I say it has no density at all.
Kris: In your hand?
Nardine: Yes, yes.
Kris: Would that package have a colour?
Nardine: Grey jumps into my mind.
Kris: Indeed. Would it even have a shape?
Nardine: A hand.
Kris: Indeed. Would it have weight?
Nardine: No, no, it is just air, just space. It actually has no grounding… it’s a fabrication!
Kris: Whether it is a fabrication or not, is not necessarily the point. It still carried an influence upon your behaviours and your actions for a long time.
Nardine: Yes.
Kris: Thus, it still has an reality. Thus by giving it certain dimensions may help determine the next course of action. Thus for example, it has a sort of greyish mass within your left hand, and if you allowed all of those feelings relating to guilt, shame, lack of self worth, etcetera etcetera. And if you gathered all of those feelings, all of those ideas and notions, from everywhere in your body, and literally syphoned them into that object in your left hand, what would you start feeling?
Nardine: I feel a little collection of grey volcanic rock marbles, appearing to have weight and substance and yet with a gentle squeeze just condensing into dust.
Kris: Indeed, you might even add if you wish, these objects in your hand are vibrating in some way, because all things visible and invisible have a vibration. And as all of these things from everywhere in your body are being directed and syphoned into that object in your hand, then their vibration would increase as you become more and more conscious of them.
Nardine: Right.
Kris: Allow that vibration to be as intense as it wants to be. And as this is occurring in your left hand turn your attention now to your right hand. And slowly begin to concentrate on all of the positive and constructive outcome that you want as you expressed in your opening comments.
Nardine: Yes.
Kris: And in your right hand concentrate and allow a form or shape to begin to manifest in your right hand.
Nardine: Don’t know why I’ve got it but I have a pineapple there.
Kris: Indeed, it quite likely then has a very nice colour. It likely also gives off a very delicious aroma, and we trust that you like pineapples.
Nardine: Yes. (Chuckling)
Kris: Now imagine that this outcome that you desire can only do one thing, draw more of its energies and vibrations to itself. And it is drawing it from everywhere in your body. And it begins to vibrate, allowing it to vibrate as much as is possible. And that its vibrations draw more of the same, this time not only from everywhere in your body, but from everywhere in time and space.
All the notions of any kind of past, present and future that match the object in your right hand are being drawn to it. Perhaps you can even imagine that strings of light are being formed to accentuate the drawing. And allow this to continue, while you now slowly shift your attention for a moment back to your left hand. Where that object is also vibrating, drawing its similarities from everywhere within your body. Until such a point where you are now again conscious of the object in your right hand, conscious of the object in your left hand, until you may even feel as if your body is evenly divided. Energies of both kinds being drawn to each object. And turn your attention again to the object in your right hand, strong, vibrant. And right now extend your hands palms up in front of you as if you are literally holding these two objects. Do you follow?
Nardine: Yes.
Kris: Then becoming conscious of the whole process, bring both hands towards each other and touch the palms together closing your hands together.
Nardine: Yes.
Kris: And take a deep breath even with a sigh of relief. What do you feel right now?
Nardine: Balance, peace… joy.
Kris: Does it feel as if where there might have been inner storms there is now calm?
Nardine: Yes, it does… In a sense, I feel as though I’ve leeched out the negative energy.
Kris: Allow yourself to take another very deep breath exhaling nice and gentle, and pay attention for a moment to whatever inner dialogue is occurring within your mind. And you may notice that it is perhaps relatively quiet. Is that correct?
Nardine: Yes, only one statement comes to mind, I am loving and lovable.
Kris: That is a very good beginning.
Nardine: It feels calm and peaceful.
Kris: (Long pause) Before you go to sleep you may enjoy revisiting that sense of calm and peace within yourself, allowing yourself to drift off to sleep with that very idea in mind. Even suggesting to your dream self that you desire to continue that sensation, that experience. And that the experience leads you to generate new behaviour, new beliefs that reflect your chosen concentrations. That you are perfectly lovable and loving individual, and that any inner conversations that seem to lead you in a different concentration, you simply choose to no longer lend it energy, that you return your new foundation.
Nardine: Yes.
Kris: It will take approximately 30 days for new behaviour to begin generating automatically, for the new patterns to function on their own. It is not unlike learning to drive a car, in the beginning, you need an instructor, you need the manual, you need to check all of the necessary points. Make certain your seatbelt is on, your rear view visor is correctly placed, your side visors are correctly placed. You need to check and verify where the gears are where the starter is and so on and so forth. Correct.
Nardine: Yes.
Kris: Until such a time comes when it is all done automatically, you just go through this without having to think twice about it. Then you can simply enjoy driving without having to wonder how you do the driving.
Nardine: Understand.
Kris: This is an fairly deep process, as you will continue to experience for yourself. You can say that your subconscious or inner mind has gotten the instructions and you will simply repeat them. Repetition, consistency and clarity are key.
Nardine: Understand.
Kris: And all that requires from you is commitment to follow through.
Nardine: Mhmm. Easy!
Kris: In so many ways, yes. Though it is always easier said than done.
Nardine: Yes. (Chuckling)
Kris: Now. You have an desire and an ability to write. Is there something preventing you?
Nardine: No, no, I’m guessing you’re referring to my poetry, or are you speaking above and beyond poetry?
Kris: More than poetry. There is also the capacity within you to speak, to engage others into exploring their unknown inner self. That is something you might also desire exploring for yourself. You have at many different times contemplated making a difference in life. Not only in your life, but in other peoples lives. Correct.
Nardine: Yes, correct.
Kris: You also have an excellent voice. Utilising it as an instrument or tool you could use your voice to encourage others to discover their own healing potential. Have you ever considered having your own employment, your own business?
Nardine: Yes, but clearly not along the lines of what you’re speaking. I’m happy to be a home business creator.
Kris: What we are hinting at is much more than simply staying at home, now it does not mean hitting the road either. But in the sense that you could facilitate either one-on-one or small groups of individuals, to begin exploring their own inner dimensions. Perhaps even in a professional manner.
Nardine: I am taking in what you’re saying without necessarily seeing the direction in this moment.
Kris: Indeed, that is as we wish it at this point. What do you envision yourself seeing and doing in a few years from now?
Nardine: Well I haven’t given a whole lot of detailed daydream to a few years from now. The light I hold within me most of the time, is simply trusting and knowing that this journey of my life, the processing, learning etcetera that I’ve done, is not for me to hide unto myself. I have chosen as I’ve chosen because I believe I do have a gift in my ability to share from my heart. I also trust that All That Is will create the opportunity for me to find the way to do that. But I don’t necessarily have imaginings about how or what manner or in what way I can contribute.
Kris: Indeed, then it might be well worth your while to start formulating ideas different visions and images of how this might possibly come about. It is one thing indeed to trust that All That Is will bring it to you. It is another thing all together to encourage All That Is. By that, we mean there are many many many individuals who desire for great things, because as you well know no one ever desires or aspires to anything mediocre.
Nardine: Yes.
Kris: And everyone would indeed wish All That Is to show them the way to fulfilment, their own fulfilment.
Nardine: Yes
Kris: Very often, All That Is actually does just that very thing. But it does so a little more subtlety than the individual may want.
Nardine: Yes
Kris: And to begin to create possible outcomes to begin to visualise, daydream and feel excitement about potential journeys, may bring about a much faster resolution than simply asking All That Is to bring them what will fulfil them the most. Yet many individuals actually do get the impulses and the urges to move towards that fulfilment, but they think that because it is coming from within them it is not coming from All That Is. Therefore, it is only their imagination. Does that make sense to you?
Nardine: Yes, yes it does.
Kris: To put it very very plainly, we would encourage you to investigate the possibility of working with specific tools, perhaps even something as hypnosis. Which allows yourself and individuals who would then be your clients, to awaken to their potential. Whilst at the same time leading them and yourself to your own fulfilment and receiving payment for these endeavours. Does that make any sense to you?
Nardine: Yes, yes it does. It kind of comes hand in hand with knowing and trusting my divinity and knowing and trusting that the awareness and wisdom I have is worthy of sharing with others and can indeed assist others.
Kris: Indeed, and yourself.
Nardine: Yes.
Kris: It is an great accomplishment when you can burn that candle at both ends, and receive remunerations for those efforts. When an client comes to an qualified and competent hypnotist, they are literally trusting that individual that professional with their inner being. The hypnosis itself is relatively easy state to accomplish with a client. The key to an ethical and competent practitioner however, is what to do once the client is in that highly suggestible state, where you provide the opportunity for the client to begin to reach for their fulfilment.
You have in particular the kind of heart and voice that would be a soothing instrument to bring a traveller to experience a greater fullness of their life journey. This is an suggestion that you are entirely free to explore or reject, but we do encourage you to al least explore various avenues to their fullness.
Nardine: You’ve ignited my imaginings… and my potentials.
Kris: There are many different kinds of notions concerning hypnosis on the internet not all of which is actually truthful. To get an better inkling of that, you might desire to visit Josephs’ own website. You may ask him about it so that you can visit and acquire some information that might whet your appetite a little more.
Nardine: Yes, understand.
Kris: Now do you have one last enquiry?
Nardine: Ah, no, um, other than perhaps if there was anything that you felt, not that you haven’t already offered, but if there were any other pearl or treasure that you would care to leave me with to ponder and hold in my heart, no I’m happy with what we’ve shared.
Kris: We have made reference recently to the pearl of awareness.
Nardine: Yes.
Kris: Within oneself, we have also made reference to the observer within. If you connect the two and realise that they are cousins, then it will light up more light bulbs if you wish.
Nardine: Yes,
Kris: And know that the observer within or the pearl of awareness, is much more true to yourself than anything your senses can feedback to you.
Nardine: Understand
Kris: And with that, we return you to your lovely self and we return Joseph to you, and we thank you for your lovely consideration.
Nardine: And thank you for your Kris.
(Session ends)
Kris Radio: Tides of Awareness
February 14, 2008
Kris Chronicles
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Lisa Q. Pratt (Lauromar)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on February 14, 2008
MARK: Good evening and welcome to Kris radio here on thatradio.com. Today is February 14th, Valentine’s Day and my name is Mark Bukator, and I am co-hosting today along with…
JOHN: Thank you Mark and yes, it’s Valentine’s Day and we just had a lovely, lovely dinner. Mark and Serge were a couple and Kris and I were a couple.
(Laughter)
MARK: The perfect date.
JOHN: It was lovely!
MARK: Well he doesn’t eat much.
SERGE: I hear Kris is a very light eater, huh?
JOHN: He doesn’t eat very much at all. He’s good company, though.
(Chuckling)
JOHN: Yes, so here we are February 14th, halfway through February already.
MARK: This year’s just flying by isn’t it.
(Laughter)
JOHN: No, it really is!
MARK: I know, it is.
JOHN: A month and half into 2008 already, and we’re going to have, I suspect we’re going to get some remote correspondence on-line at some point.
MARK: I believe we will be getting some Skypers, Skypies… and not to forget Serge.
JOHN: Oh! Excuse me, Serge.
(Laughter)
JOHN: Yes, we are here with our dear friend Serge, of course.
SERGE: Thank you.
(Pause)
MARK: Silence.
JOHN: Well it’s our job to fill that silence.
MARK: Yeah, yeah, we’re doing it quite well, are we? (Chuckling)
JOHN: With happy sounds. You know any good tunes?
MARK: Oh you don’t want me to sing, believe me. (Chuckling)
JOHN: You may be putting yourself down there a little tiny bit, but I’ll take your word for it. So the…
MARK: Well let’s…
JOHN: Arizona.
MARK: Arizona is coming up, I was going to say, let’s get into some announcements. We have Arizona coming up March 8th and 9th and we’re really looking forward to that, especially when I look out the window at all the snow here. A very exciting workshop on “Infinite Fields of Probabilities…
JOHN: (whispering) possibilities.
MARK: …Possibilities” and oops! And that’s very exciting, that’s going to be held at Cave Creek, Arizona and all the details are on-line at Krischronicles.com. Also, we have your book, your new book, John, the e-book.
JOHN: Yeah.
MARK: If you want to talk about that a little bit?
JOHN: Well I’m very happy to have got that book out into the ethers. I’ve gotten some wonderful feedback on it. As a matter of fact, you remember last week, Serge read an e-mail from was it, Christie?
SERGE: Yes.
JOHN: Was that her name? Well she sent me an e-mail as well, basically saying that she really enjoyed the book and also suggesting that she, she felt a kinship with me just from hearing my voice over the radio and suggested that possibly we might have had some focuses together which suits me fine! I mean I’m, I’m easy!
MARK: Well we know that!
(Laughter – can hear Matt laughing in the background as well)
JOHN: Oh I hear somebody!
MARK: I hear Matt!
SERGE: We heard some Skype-like laughter.
NICOLE: Hello everyone!
SERGE: Or is that hot tub laughter?
MATT: We’re actually not in a hot tub tonight. We’re on the porch in front of the fireplace.
SERGE: Aw, that’s awful, all out of the tub, in front of the fireplace.
(Chuckling)
JOHN: Is it a little cooler this evening in Arizona?
MATT: Actually this week has been very warm. It’s extremely warm. Marlene only has two layers of clothes on tonight.
(Laughter)
SERGE: Sure, rub it in.
MARLENE: (faint in the background) Hi everyone.
MARK: Hi Marlene.
MARLENE: Hi Everyone.
SERGE: Oh Marlene’s there!
MARK: Great!
MATT: You know John; we feel a kinship with you too.
JOHN: Oh! Well that’s wonderful, you know, with all joking aside, it would surprise me, honestly, if any of the Kris Brahmily family people hadn’t shared numerous focuses together. I mean obviously we’re all in this together.
MARK: Absolutely.
MATT: Absolutely. Well Happy Valentine’s Day everybody!
MARK: Same to you! Yeah, we were going to talk a little bit about “VD.” (Chuckling) Valentine’s Day.
MATT: Hello, VD? We’re talking about VD? Good. (Chuckling)
SERGE: I have a wonderful prescription for that. Take 2 cups of chocolate and call me in the morning.
(Laughter)
MATT: Well you know, Mark and Serge, I’m here with three of my four favorite girls in the world. Of course Nicole is here, and Marlene is here, and my mom and dad are here visiting from Minnesota and they’re gonna be here when you get here.
SERGE: Wow.
MATT: So you’re gonna get to hang out with them for like three days.
ALL: Oh great!
MATT: And of course Delaney, you know, she’s my fourth favorite, and since she got her license in January…
MARK: She hasn’t been seen since!
MATT: We haven’t seen her!
(Laughter)
MATT: She hasn’t been home since!
MARK: Wow that’s amazing. So, why don’t you guys talk about the workshop a little bit and what people can expect down there.
MATT: Well, you can expect a high thread count bedding.
JOHN: Oh!
(Sirens blaring)
MARK: There’s the sirens!
MATT: Good food.
(Sirens get louder)
MATT: No sirens.
(Laughter)
SERGE: It wouldn’t be the Kris radio show without those sirens. They all come in about ten after seven. It’s unmistakable.
MATT: A hundred and one degree hot tub…. hundreds of birds. A coyote or pack of coyotes once a night probably, maybe some havalinas, a fountain, cold wine…
MARK: Cold beer.
MATT: Good food, did I say good food? Good food, cold beer, I think any, any…
MARK: And good company.
MATT: And great, great company and fabulous conversations. Yeah, and we’ve got people, we’re well represented. We’ve got people from Mexico, from Spain, we’ve got people from the Netherlands, from Malaysia, we, I mean this is an international event.
MARK: Wouldn’t have it any other way!
MATT: It’s gonna be great!
NICOLE: The “Come As You Were” party on Saturday night is going to be so much fun!
MARK: Oh isn’t it?
NICOLE: So for those of you are coming, make sure you’re getting your costume together…
SERGE: Yes, we…
NICOLE: …it’s going to be a really wonderful evening.
SERGE: We hear some people of the cloth are going to be there.
(Laughter)
NICOLE: That would be true!
MARK: So for those people who…
MATT: Thank god I wasn’t…
MARK: Go ahead Matt.
MATT: Oh. Thank god I wasn’t a streaker in another focus.
(Laughter)
MARK: It would be an easy costume!
MATT: But not much for my confidence.
MARK: For those people who don’t understand what we’re talking about, the “Come As You Were” party is a reincarnational costume party, the object is to come in as one of your past lives. That’s going to be a hoot.
JOHN: “Past” in our terms, of course.
NICOLE: That’s gonna be on Saturday night and Friday night we’re going to have the welcoming party and so everyone will get to know each other and great company and great conversations that night and then obviously Saturday is the sessions as well as Sunday. And then on Monday we’re having a trip up to Sedona which is going to be absolutely fabulous and then obviously on the way back we’re gonna stop off at Marlene’s house.
SERGE: And have another party!
NICOLE: And have another party! I guess we’re all about partying, aren’t we? It’s supposed to be fun.
JOHN: Oh I’ve got a question.
NICOLE: Yes.
JOHN: I’ve got a question for you guys, for those of us who are addicted to e-mail, is there a way for a person to get on-line in your establishment? Like I mean, In other words…
NICOLE: Absolutely!
JOHN: Can I check my e-mail in other words?
MATT: You can check your e-mail from the hot tub, John.
JOHN: (Laughter) That’s what I was look… that’s the answer I was looking for.
NICOLE: Yes you can. Absolutely. Yeah, we have wireless internet over here so… in all the houses… so, it will be just fine, everyone can check their e-mail, check in with everyone.
MARK: Sweet. Something else I’d like to talk about is the website and I’ve put up an induction, a new induction that was actually from the radio show and that’s absolutely free, you can download it. You can get to it…
SERGE: Is that the “DNA” one?
MARK: The “DNA” one.
SERGE: Yeah.
MARK: A really good one, and that’s for FREE on the website. And Serge and I have been working very hard on the website, we’re in the process of revamping it, so in the near future we’re hoping to come on-line with a brand-spanking-new website for you all, and we’re working very hard at that for you!
NICOLE: Hey I forgot to add too, for those of you who are coming to the retreat, Bill just brought up on Skypie here, about the massages. We are offering massages, there’s a lady by the name of Joanne who’s been a massage therapist for I think 12, 15 years. She is absolutely outstanding and she used to teach and everything and she is doing an hour massage for $45 and that includes the tip.
(Wow)
NICOLE: So for those of you who definitely wanna get some massages, get with Marlene and let’s get this, let’s get this booked…
SERGE: I get first dibs, first dibs.
NICOLE: Okay Serge, absolutely. Yeah, and let’s get these booked and… so that we can bring her out here, for that price it’s just… unbeatable. So it’s $45 for an hour, I think it was $65 for an hour-and-a-half and $80 for two hours. So whichever you prefer, just let us know.
SERGE: That’s actually an awesome price.
MATT: $120 for the three hour massages that Nicole likes.
NICOLE: Oh Stop.
(Laughter)
NICOLE: Yeah, the three hour massages are great too. (Laughing) So just let us know.
MARK: Wow. That sounds so incredible, that is such a great price, it’s unheard of up here, absolutely unheard of.
NICOLE: Oh I know, yeah that’s U.S! (Dollars)
MARK: Right now Canada’s higher again, I think. A million dollars is a little bit higher, a little bit anyway.
JOHN: Yes, so just to think about our session last time, we spent the first half of the session if my memory serves me, talking about how our helpful our much-maligned ego is to us, and then Kris told us that wonderful story about the pearl, what was it?
MARK: The tree of pearls.
JOHN: The tree of pearls.
MARK: And how pearls grow on trees.
JOHN: And Mark and I were chatting about that with that… what… the metaphorical meaning of that little story might have been because you know, Kris’ little stories are not just little stories.
MARK: (Chuckling) No.
SERGE: What did you come up with?
JOHN: I came up with the idea, keeping in mind that the first half of the session was all about how valuable the ego was and he said that the pearl was the pearl of awareness.
MARK: Yes.
JOHN: And if you’ll remember the little guy, who was fishing and found the pearl, tried to eat it and just about broke a tooth on it if I recall, and then said “oh, this thing is no good” and he threw it away. But the next time he went fishing he found a whole forest of pearls had grown.
MARK: Pearl trees had grown.
JOHN: So what I’m thinking is that the pearl could symbolize our ego awareness, which no matter how we try to throw it away, as being not edible, is always gonna come back in strength because it is in fact something that we can’t do without, we’ve got to have that awareness.
MARK: And it’s such a beautiful thing!
JOHN: Yeah!
SERGE: Like Tiggers.
(Chuckling)
JOHN: So that’s my first guess at what that might mean, of course you know, the likelihood is it has about eleven-teen meanings.
MARK: Oh of course, of course.
KRIS: Now we thank you for your consideration and we trust that you are comfortable.
MARK: Yes, thank you
JOHN: Thank you.
KRIS: And perhaps there might be twelve-teen meanings.
(Laughter)
KRIS: But your assessment is very good. Since general philosophies and teachings indicate that in order to achieve any kind of spiritual knowledge, enlightenment and wisdom, it is something, this ego, is something you can sacrifice on the altar, as it were, since it is believed to be an impediment, a hindrance to your spiritual growth. It is our contention that you might as well lobotomize yourselves since, for the one thing, you are the ones who created your own egos. Do you believe that you would have done so, simply to extract it like a sore tooth? That it has no value? Indeed not. You are much wiser than that.
And since you must behave according to the sets of beliefs and associated values that you hold, then those who are pursuing the ideology that the ego must be extracted first before you gain any insights into your own spirituality are functioning on the assumptions that this best belief about the ego is an absolute truth, and it is far from that. It goes without saying that everything else in life, which is manufactured from your own belief base, must be acted upon. So this leads to a most interesting area of exploration. If you did change your beliefs from what most of them are today, what kind of life, what kind of reality would experience?
MARK: Very, very different obviously.
JOHN: Yes, well, yeah obviously very different, so just to be clear, Kris, you’re suggesting that if we didn’t have the beliefs that the ego needs to be cut out like a bad tooth then the belief that we might replace that with would be the belief, the belief, (clears his throat) the belief that the ego…
KRIS: Now you do not look like Porky Pig.
JOHN: (imitating Porky pig) The ego is an integral part of our wholeness and as a matter of fact from what I understand about the ego, is it not… like help me to understand the ego, isn’t the ego my own conscious self? Here?
KRIS: It is that part of you that gives you the perspective of being yourself.
JOHN: Well how could that be a bad thing?
KRIS: Indeed.
MARK: That’s like the Mona Lisa saying…
KRIS: You have a variety of performative contradictions in these teachings. And even if you were to succeed in excising this boil as it is often referred to, another would take its place because it is it your point of awareness.
JOHN: Isn’t having an ego the very point of having a focal awareness in the physical universe?
KRIS: Yes. Another would take its place because it is part of your own energy structure. That particular and extremely precise point of awareness cannot be excised, removed in any way shape or form, though you may believe this is what you have done because you must act in accordance with your beliefs.
Thus if you examined what you desire as outcome and what you have as outcome in your lives, and this we will explore even more in-depth in the Arizona workshop, but if you examine all of the outcome that you have in your present life, and then look at all of the beliefs that are necessary to produce that outcome, it would certainly open your eyes, wide open. And the trick is, that since you would then discover the relationship between the outcome in your life and the beliefs necessary to produce that outcome, then you have an incredible advantage because then, when you want to create a specific outcome, you can tailor those necessary beliefs to produce that outcome. Does that not make sense?
JOHN: Yeah, it makes perfect sense! It implies a certain flexibility of beliefs that I’m not sure I have a full grasp of.
KRIS: Indeed, even more so, it also indicates that as the maestro, you are the one that gets the music out of your musicians, with that magic baton. Do you follow?
JOHN: Would the musicians be beliefs?
KRIS: Yes.
JOHN: In the sense?
KRIS: In this small analogy, then you play the beliefs.
JOHN: So if I don’t wanna hear the brass instruments, I just wave the baton and they just shut up and then I bring up the timpani and the wind instruments.
KRIS: Indeed, it is perhaps a little more involved and complicated than the way it is being said at this moment but this gives you a surface idea of the potential that exists with that kind of an approach. Beliefs are also as misunderstood as the ego.
JOHN: Ah!
MARK: Yes.
KRIS: Many people, once they discover this type of information as we suggested, often take the view that then it is the belief that is the culprit. “The belief is what makes my life so bad,” whilst it is none of these things. Consider your lamps and lighting devices, it is the electricity that allows that bulb to produce light. Does that make sense?
(John confirms)
MARK: Yes.
KRIS: As such is the electricity a bad thing or good thing? Or is it simply that electricity is electricity? How use it is another thing entirely. You can use electricity also to cause considerable damage, but the electricity is neither good nor bad, it simply is, it is energy. Thus beliefs are the switches if you wish, of energy that you use to produce outcome. And if you look at the world in general, you will see a very interesting phenomenon. There are specific categories of beliefs that are utilized throughout social structures.
There are individuals who function with those beliefs that produce outcome in terms of survival and perhaps a low level sense gratification, individuals who are rarely concerned with anything but their immediate needs and to gratify those needs almost instantly at any cost. And there is another layer or plateau in that same vein, where individuals may be more inclined towards the mental states, and we do not mean insanities, but functioning more so on the mental plane as opposed to purely physical and sensory plane. Do you follow?
(John confirms)
MARK: Yup!
KRIS: And there are individuals on another plane who are more inclined to venture into what we will simply call, for lack of any other word, on the spiritual planes. That might also include religion, and between each plane there are many different connections because you can have the first plane, where some elements of the other two are found but usually very little, there may be gradations between the first and the second, as well as there may be between the second and the third so there are still connections but if you look at the displays of belief structures as organized in a social context, you might be able to identify this a little more readily. Do you follow what we mean?
JOHN: I think so, yeah, in a way it’s sort of almost a geography of beliefs.
KRIS: Indeed. Now it is not to say specifically that these are rigid and regimented divisions, for there are obviously many different open-ended systems within this perspective. But if you look about groups of individuals, you will find, and then perhaps even more readily identify the kinds of beliefs utilized to maintain those structures at those plateaus but there is no strict black and white divisions between each of them, there will be open-ended connections. Does that make some sense to you?
JOHN: Absolutely.
KRIS: Thus, beliefs at the that collective or group level is an incredibly fascinating study to say the least, because it also gives you insight into the individual that maintains specific beliefs that may vacillate between all three, though is maintained primarily within one particular organization of beliefs. Does that make some sense to you?
(John confirms)
KRIS: So you have then, different kinds of organizational structures along the lines of beliefs and some of the individuals are more focused upon one specific groups of beliefs than the others, though there might be bleed-throughs, but there will still be a specific core to those organizations. This in many ways is what creates all of the human landscape in that kind of an experience and it can be endearing to dig deeper if you wish.
JOHN: Well just to ask a question Kris, or at least to make a comment, you’ve talked about the architecture of beliefs and the interesting thing about architecture in the human society is that there’s all kinds of different schools of architecture. There’s religious architecture, I’m thinking cathedrals here, and you sort of say “okay, what are the beliefs that create a cathedral” and then there’s the you know, a great big business towers… what kind of beliefs are creating that structure and then there’s like a village, a village out in the mountains, that’s a kind of architecture, and what are the beliefs that are creating that kind of architecture? So I enjoy the picture you’re painting.
KRIS: Indeed. And this is not limited specifically to physical or concrete expressions but also the manner in which you and each individual organizes their own architecture of beliefs for specific outcomes. It is part of that natural psychological makeup that functions in the background, as you often express, that makes the things that occur in life possible. Without such a database of reference to belief systems, your experiences would be extremely different. You would simply not be who you are experiencing yourselves as now.
JOHN: That’s very interesting.
KRIS: As such, it moves towards our theme for the year of “Creative Genius.” If for instance, you come from a background where it is absolutely believed that life is the way it is, this is the way it is destined to be, there is very little that will ever be done to change that, do you think that such a perspective gives the individual a great deal of leeway and opportunities and possibilities?
JOHN: No.
MARK: No.
KRIS: So what do you think such an individual will experience?
JOHN: The same thing again, and again, and again.
MARK: Very limited, very limiting.
KRIS: Indeed. It is a very narrow focus and such an individual’s outcomes will be very predictable, nothing or very little will change. Now if on the other hand, you come from a background where the beliefs expressed are that there is always a solution available, there is always an opportunity for change, transformation or growth, advancement, there is always a great leeway in life where you can design your own future, your own life, what do you think such an individual will experience?
JOHN: I, you know I don’t know anybody like that, but I think that that would be lovely, I think you’d have continual growth and surprise and development and enrichment and fulfillment!
KRIS: Indeed.
MARK: A lot more choices available.
KRIS: That is, exactly. Presenting oneself with the kinds of beliefs that create outcome where you have great leeway in the choices and the things available to you, that you are not destined to always repeat yourself, that instead you can become a new individual. You will still look the same, you will not grow taller, but the possibilities available to you are far greater than the possibilities available to the individual who is absolutely convinced that he or she is trapped in his experience of life and there are no answers, no solutions to be found, period. It is the difference between living in a dungeon mentality on the one hand, and a Taj Mahal mentality on the other. Does that make some sense to you?
JOHN: It’s lovely!
MARK: Oh yeah.
KRIS: Again, the same principle applies in the beliefs that are entertained, maintained and held, but it is the KIND of beliefs that are so positioned that create the outcome you want or don’t want. So giving yourselves the kinds of beliefs that for instance, provide opportunities for creative solutions, even genius in your life can make a very big difference. And it is not only a matter of thinking about it once or perhaps thrice in a matter of a few moments, but to actually shift the entire orbit and axis of your beliefs 180 degrees to the other end of that spectrum. Nicely and gradually until you begin to see the results manifest in your life experience. Do you follow?
JOHN: Yes absolutely. It’s that, it’s that transition from the dungeon mentality to the Taj Mahal mentality… like you see, when I was growing up, I had the feeling that beliefs, beliefs were set in stone in a sense that I didn’t feel I had any control over what I believed. And so really, the revelation at this point is a new belief about beliefs.
MARK: And not only thinking about it, but actually… I just lost my train of thought but… (Laughing)
JOHN: It was probably a wonderful thought.
MARK: It was a good one!
JOHN: It was a good one? Oh, it’ll come back, it’ll come back.
MARK: It was about doing something about it…
KRIS: If you believe, it will come back.
(John’s laughing)
MARK: …PATTERNS!… that’s what it was. It was patterns! Changing the patterns and behaviors.
KRIS: Indeed, that is also exactly that. Beliefs always produce the behavior, which becomes habit and patterns. By noticing, as we have suggested many times, by noticing your own thoughts, your own behavior, your own energies, you can easily determine which beliefs no longer produce the outcome you desire.
(John confirms)
KRIS: Therefore, if say, the navigational system on your ship or plane no longer takes you to the destination, do you scrap the plane? Or decide to no longer make any destinations? Or do you have the guidance mechanism adjusted and corrected?
MARK: That’s like throwing out the car because it has a flat tire.
KRIS: Indeed.
JOHN: Or it’s the wonderful blond joke of the blond… why was the blond fired from an M&M factory? Because she kept throwing out all the W’s?
(Laughter)
KRIS: Now there is no need to be so mean to M&M’s.
JOHN: Or blondes, please forgive me, all blondes.
(More laughter)
MATT: You’re one in a million, John.
MARK: Reminds me of the new Shreddies commercial too, which are now diamond shaped.
JOHN: Yeah, right, it’s about the same thing!
(Laughter)
KRIS: That is indeed a very nice marketing feat.
JOHN: Well I appreciate what you’re saying about… but the key thing for me though, is understanding first of all, that my world is a reflection of my beliefs, right? So I get that feedback, secondly that I can look at the contents of my own mind and see where I’m dwelling, where I’m focusing, where I’m concentrating, and thirdly, the idea that I can actually move away from a belief that’s not serving me and encourage and nurture a belief that is serving me, that’s a revolutionary idea.
MATT: Can I ask a question?
KRIS: Indeed.
MARK: Go ahead.
MATT: Alan asked, he says “if beliefs are patterns that we may or may not” oh, I’m sorry, I’ll read this word for word “if beliefs are patterns of a sort that may or may not give us what we want, when we modify the patterns that we don’t like and break up the patterns, do we, do new patterns spontaneously form or do we need to construct some new patterns to take the place of the old?”
KRIS: Indeed, an excellent inquiry. Now, the beliefs generate the behaviors that become patterns. Thus modifying the patterns, the behavior, begins the process of modifying the source as well. The source will be the beliefs. By no longer supplying energy or concentration to those sets of beliefs, in other words, canceling your subscription or membership, you can begin to design the kinds of beliefs that will lead to fresh and welcome outcome.
You have that potential, you have been doing it since before your birth, your birth is the result of certain sets of fundamental and primordial beliefs. So you have been doing this for very long time, you simply do not notice it. You are who you are as a result of very specific fundamental primordial beliefs as well. Everything else is acquired. And it is acquired by you, not anyone else. You have not noticed that you created and generated whole sets of beliefs according to what you inferred from your familial unit’s behavior and words and actions. And these form the foundations for your life. And it is possible to make the modifications necessary to create new behavior that generates new outcome. Does that answer the inquiry?
JOHN: Yes I think so, Kris. So really, what I’m hearing is that I can, at one level, I can sort of say “okay, I don’t like this belief or I don’t like this outcome” but I think what you’re suggesting is, if I hear you right, I can work backwards from the outcomes I desire to the necessary beliefs.
KRIS: Indeed. You desire specific outcome, then you can design the types of beliefs you need to get that outcome.
JOHN: Ooh, cool!
MARK: Just as a small analogy or example: the physical body. If we have low self-esteem and beliefs about the self that provide low self-esteem, we often walk hunched over, looking down, we’re kind of mopey, but if you change your posture, you can also turn around your beliefs in yourself.
KRIS: Indeed, your moods of feeling down will actually become physically expressed. Change the mood to feel up, to feel better about yourself, and the body will reflect that position as well. So you have an incredible amount of leeway, and it is built into your own psychological makeup. It is part of your kit of awareness. You may think that you did not enter the world with a user’s manual but you certainly have all of the instruments, the tools necessary to design and build your life. For the longest time, you have done so simply by default, you have used the inferences from others as your foundation. What do you think would happen if what you inferred and took on as your beliefs were to change? That this no longer was absolutely necessary for your functioning, that you could design the kinds of beliefs, and we do suggest, be practical, to create outcome you desire.
JOHN: Well it’s… it would be like… it would be like fantasyland you could…
MARK: But we’d also be leading by example in the world around us since we create our own reality of the world around us, we’d be changing the people around us, would be changing on how they affect their lives!
KRIS: Indeed there are many people who already do so.
JOHN: Ah!
KRIS: They may not understand it in those terms, but they do understand that what they hold in their minds is what turns the tide.
JOHN: Oh it’s interesting to think that there’s a small percentage, or you know, a percentage of people who are actually doing this as we speak.
KRIS: What do you think would happen to Oprah if she began to believe she was unworthy, she was no good, she had no qualities and actually took it to heart?
MARK: There goes the ratings!
JOHN: Her TV show would tank.
KRIS: Indeed.
JOHN: Yeah, interesting.
KRIS: So it is an area of study that merits far more investigation, it is not about luck or good fortune or divine intervention. In fact what you call the divine really has no say in what you want in your life, unless you decide that this must be the reality. Do you follow?
JOHN: I do. So for instance, as a group, all of us might take on the challenge of saying “okay, between now and the next radio show, I believe that it’s possible, even probable that some synchronicity is going to occur, that will help me understand, in the clearest terms, that what we’re talking about here is true.”
KRIS: You might desire and even more direct approach. Something perhaps less winded.
(Laughter)
KRIS: Such as “I believe that the universe allows for all possibilities for me, now.”
JOHN: Okay.
KRIS: “There are no restrictions, no limitations, I am not held back by anything, indeed I have to hold myself back from flying at top speed.” You can be humorous. It does assist. Does that make sense to you?
MARK: Absolutely.
KRIS: A simple first part. “I believe” or even “I choose to believe that the universe provides me with all possible opportunities.”
JOHN: I like that. I like “choose to believe,” I like that part.
KRIS: Are there any other inquiries, perhaps in Skypeland?
MATT: Yeah there’s one, well Georgina asked a question, earlier in the session, and she said “if electricity is described as energy, is the electricity… is the electricity that our emotions manifest… is the electricity our emotions manifest in order to reveal our beliefs?”
KRIS: Electricity in and of itself is a direct reflection of your own psychic energy. You may create turbines that generate electricity on one level, but electricity actually is not understood properly. In fact it still baffled scientists. They may describe it as certain atoms and molecules, positive, negative and so on and so forth, but if you listen carefully, it is simply jargon. Does that make sense so far?
MATT: Yes.
KRIS: Electricity is… has always been available, it did not suddenly come into your world when you discovered it, it has always been there, you have simply found another way to make use of your own psychic energies. Thus if that kind of energy is demonstrated in physical terms as electricity, think of what else you may demonstrate and even create as outcome in your lives. Does that make sense?
MATT: Yes.
KRIS: Any other inquiries?
MATT: You know there’s a saying that Nicole and I always say, “when you squeeze an orange, you get juice” which means that when you… when a person is squeezed or when promotional episode or a significant emotional event happens to a person, their true beliefs come out.
KRIS: And that is often exactly why individuals may create such situations, whether they even throw themselves into crisis so that they can make themselves aware, but if you have an no inkling of what beliefs are, it may be a little more challenging, and you will continue to set up situations along those very lines until you can diffuse those beliefs. Does that make sense?
MATT: Yeah, and you had talked about that at an earlier radio show, that your emotions is your… it’s your guidance system.
KRIS: Indeed. It can definitely point the way to those particular beliefs that you entertain. And do keep in mind again, that beliefs are not alien-like things inserted into your consciousness that manipulates you, and causes you to behave in certain ways. Beliefs are merely ideas, no different and then any other idea, 60 or 70,000 ideas that cross your mind on a daily basis, the point is that what you call beliefs are those ideas you have selected among thousands of others, and have subjected to your own injections of energy. You hold those ideas, and out of them you squeeze reality creation.
MARK: That’s the real juice.
MATT: That’s great.
KRIS: Once you stop squeezing, then that which produces undesirable outcome can no longer provide the power, and you let them go, they return to their original state of being an idea, no different than thousands of others. What is the time?
MARK: Five minutes to.
KRIS: Any other inquiries?
MATT: None from here.
KRIS: Then it is left to the co-host’s.
JOHN: Yes.
MARK: Gulp.
KRIS: It is left to them to believe they have questions.
JOHN: I believe I have a question for sure. We were talking, you were talking earlier, and I found it fascinating, about the idea that some human beings believe in religious belief structures and others believe in immediate survival and gratification belief structures and others believe in… whatever the other one was. Question is: do most people stay within the belief structures that they were born into for most of their lives? Or is there a natural progression?
KRIS: There is no hard and fast rule that says they must stay within those boundaries. What they focus on can be changed. And it requires a certain level of awareness and it is potentially available to everyone to move out of certain categories. And we know how some people feel about being categorized in one camp or another, that is also part of your own beliefs. So it is possible and no one necessarily progresses from one to the other, but one changes the kinds of beliefs they focus upon, perhaps like you change your shirt.
JOHN: Well that’s what we’re moving towards. The other question I had was: in our history as a species, here I guess I’m speaking about the Orodin, and I understand that we’re talking about a great deal more than our understanding of what our history is, but in that history, have we ever, is this the first time we have come to this understanding of belief structures? And the ability to manipulate them? Or is this something that we’ve done in several cycles before?
KRIS: That kind of observation comes in cyclical fashion. Some societies and cultures may take longer than your society to reach that plateau. Others may do so faster. There is always a movement, there are always tides that come in and go along the terms of awareness. The point is, when you see the tide come, get in the boat.
JOHN: And the tides a-comin’.
KRIS: Indeed. Then if there are no other inquiries, we leave you to ponder the delicious buffet of beliefs available to you. You can eat the whole thing. You can eat as much as you like or as little as you like, but eat you must.
JOHN: Okay.
KRIS: And with that, we thank you for your lovely consideration.
ALL: Thank you Kris.
MARK: Wow. I’m hungry again now. (Laughing)
JOHN: I like that, “the buffet of beliefs.”
MARK: Well, thanks kids down in Arizona.
MATT: Well thank you guys for having us once again.
MARK: You’re very welcome.
MATT: Was he saying that John had to change a shirt every day?
(Laughter)
MARK: He was hinting at that.
JOHN: We’ll see you guys.
MARK: Happy Valentine’s Day!
MATT: We love you guys!
NICOLE: Goodnight!
MATT: Happy Valentine’s.
JOHN: Happy Valentine’s
MARK: Stay tune for… what’s the next show? [Losing his train of thought again.]“Spiritualism and the New Age” with Katharine Macdonald! Goodnight.
(Session ends)
