Kris Radio: Like a Moth to a Flame

January 31, 2008

Kris Chronicles – Like a Moth to a Flame
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Lisa Q. Pratt (Lauromar)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on January 31, 2008

MARK: Good evening and welcome to Kris radio here on thatradio.com. My name is Mark Bukator and I am co-hosting tonight along with…

JOHN: Its me again folks, it’s John Hawkins, very, very happy to be back here on Kris radio on That Radio, there’s a lot of radios going on around here, eh? And of course, we just can’t play this game without our dear friend Serge.

SERGE: I think we’re in radio-logy 101.

(Laughter)

MARK: And hello to the hot tubbers.

(No response – Hugh talking in the background to “hang on”)

MARK: Oops, no?

SERGE: Wasn’t there a movie about that?

MARK: H-E-L-L-O-O! Arizona!

NICOLE: We’re here!

MARK: There they are.

NICOLE: Can you hear us? (Very faint)

MARK: Barely.

NICOLE: Can you hear us? (Louder)

MARK: There we go.

NICOLE: Hello!

MARK: That’s better.

NICOLE: Hello, hello!

JOHN: Yeah, are you guys there, are you guys in the hot tub again?

MATT: Yeah, actually we are in the hot tub and we are surrounded by birds.

SERGE: And I hope you all have a glass of wine because a hot tub and no wine is not a hot tub.

MATT: Oh we would not disappoint you guys.

(Laughter)

NICOLE: Must be, there must be a hundred birds and quail right here, just right… you might be able to hear them if you just be real quiet.

JOHN: Oh we heard them. I heard birds last time, last week.

(Confirmations)

MATT: You know, Serge you’re gonna love this. I know how you love birds. You are going to just love all the little quail and all the little doves, and what are the little red ones called?

SERGE: Cardinals?

NICOLE: Finches.

MATT: And all the finches. Oh, and you know what? We have a male and a female cardinal that have been around, hanging around here all the time.

SERGE: Cool.

MATT: So I promise you, you will see cardinals.

SERGE: Good, because after that their next stop is Canada, when it warms up.

NICOLE: Yeah.

MARK: We’ll come down and pick them up.

(Laughter)

JOHN: We can bring them home with us and save them having to go across the border.

MATT: That is, that’s a great idea – all that wear and tear on their wings.

MARK: Of course what we’re talking about is the March 8th and 9th Kris workshop in Arizona at Matt and Nicole’s, just next to the hot tub! And while we’re talking about that, I’d like to reiterate to people that if you haven’t got your flight, please do so, and if you haven’t reserved a spot at the workshop, please contact Marlene because it’s literally a… a month away?

JOHN: U-huh.

MARK: Four weeks! Well maybe a little bit more but… please call Marlene and make your reservations and if you’re flying in, because it spring break, I would highly recommend that you start looking now.

SERGE: Yeah, because in a couple of weeks, prices will double and triple and then there won’t be anything left.

MARK: And there won’t be any seats.

SERGE: Yeah.

MATT: Well we’re certainly looking forward to having you guys all here. We’ve spent the last couple of days shopping for all new bedding and pillows, and all kinds of various stuff…

JOHN: Oh-ho-ho! Very nice!

MATT: … so we have… everybody is going to be very, very comfortable.

MARK: Only the best for the Kris people.

NICOLE: Of course.

MATT: And we’re gonna walk around at night, tucking everybody in, and we’re gonna say “we trust that you are comfortable.” (Imitating Kris’ accent)

(Laughter)

SERGE: It almost sounded Bela Lugosi-like.

JOHN: (imitating Bela Lugosi’s Hungarian accent) We trust that you are comfortable!

MARK: I vant to bite your neck!

(Laughter)

MARK: I lost my whole train of thought now.

JOHN: Well people should get lined up. As a matter of fact I heard that the rules for going across the border in a car have just changed.

MARK: Oh really?

SERGE: Um, maybe especially for Americans that are going back into the U.S.

JOHN: Ah!

SERGE: They now not only need just their driver’s license but they will need a second piece of ID, that may include a passport.

MARK: Yeah.

JOHN: So we need to have our passport…

SERGE: Yeah.

JOHN: And a driver’s license or a birth certificate.

SERGE: Yup.

MARK: What I’d like to get Matt and Nicole to talk about a little bit is the different packages available for people that want to come down.

MATT: Well we figured that, that you know, people would wanna come down for just more than a day or so, and so Marlene and Nicole and myself and Georgina have put together some packages. On Thursday, I believe we’re going to do an outing to Cave Creek, which is this neat little cowboy town about 10 minutes north of where we’re at, which is just fantastic. And then Friday, what is Friday?

NICOLE: Friday is a meet and greet.

MATT: Meet and greet. We have a big meet and greet gathering and then of course Saturday is the session in the day, and then at night is the “Come As You Were” party… [Reincarnational Self Party.]

JOHN: Oh yeah.

MATT: …that Mark thought up, which is gonna be a blast, and then Sunday we’ll have another session and then Monday we’re all going to caravan up to Sedona. And Sedona, Arizona is just incredible, and we’re gonna take great pictures and do some shopping and have a nice hike and…

MARK: Followed by a cocktail party I believe, right?

MATT: Yeah. And then we, and then on the way home we’re gonna stop at Marlene’s house and have a cocktail party and a little dinner. And her home is just beautiful and it’s got an incredible pool and it overlooks like, you can see forever from her back yard, it’s just fantastic, it’s gonna be great. And then on, do we have anything on Tuesday?

NICOLE: On Tuesday, no, just hanging out.

MARK: Actually, Wednesday…

MATT: Yeah, if anybody wants to come early… what’s that?

MARK: Wednesday?

MATT: Ah, you know we might even, if enough people come early, we could, we were thinking about renting a pontoon boat and going up on Lake Pleasant which is about, about 30 minutes from our house but it’s just this beautiful, beautiful lake that’s just surrounded by mountains, we could do that. There’s just a ton of great things to do. So, depending on when people come, we will plan accordingly.

NICOLE: And everything in the price, I know that you can go to the website or…

MATT: Yeah, on Krischronicles.com, there is an outline of all of the different packages. And what we’ve wanted to do is… because there’s such great bonding happening you know, between the sessions, we wanted to make it so that everybody could stay together instead of having to split up and so you know, we’re just gonna cook dinners and… so everything is included in the price, food, alcohol…

NICOLE: Lodging.

MATT: …and lodging and every…

NICOLE: And the sessions.

MATT: And the sessions.

JOHN: And the little birdies chirping, it’s all free.

MATT: Yeah, no extra charges, the birds, they come “cheep.”

(Laughter)

MARK: And if you want quail for dinner, you gotta catch it.

MATT: Yup, exactly.

NICOLE: They come “cheep” … (still giggling)

MARK: So, we actually have another announcement to make, and that is, we have put “Your Faithful Reporter: John Hawkins’” e-book online, it is now for sale…

NICOLE: Nice!

JOHN: Officially published!

MARK: And is available right from the main Krischronicles.com website.

JOHN: Yes, I’m thrilled, guys.

SERGE: Already there’s… I think three or four people have purchased it, just in the last two days.

(John sounds surprised)

MATT: Wow, congratulations! That’s great!

JOHN: Yes, I’m very, very happy.

SERGE: It’s a work of art in itself. It’s very nice.

MARK: Yeah.

JOHN: And we’re well on the way to… volume two is well under way.

MARK: Sweet.

MATT: Wow, that’s great.

MARK: The Kris dream workshops are also doing incredible! We’re having a wonderful time over there, there’s a… we have two, one on Tuesday night for the North American group and one on Saturday for the Europe group, and both of them are coming along amazingly. And that information will eventually be able to come out and…

SERGE: And a lot of the results and things happening to people in their dreams and stuff like that, the participants are actually posting them into the forum where there’s a couple of areas to talk about dreams, it’s quite nice what’s happening with people, and how their dreams are just flourishing!

MARK: I’m very impressed with the new forum and how people are responding to it. There’s a whole bunch of categories that we’ve never had and, it’s exciting!

SERGE: Yup!

MARK: It’s neat to see the responses, the communications, the “discussions” is the word I’m looking for, and it’s a lot of fun.

SERGE: Cool!

MARK: So, not sure what to expect tonight, last week, the “Inquiring Minds Wanted to Know”, this week I’m not sure what he’s got…

SERGE: What did they want to know?

(Laughter)

SERGE: How to remember things…

(Laughter)

JOHN: No, actually he said something very interesting. I’m glad you mentioned that, Serge. He said that when we were kids, we had endless, endless curiosity about ourselves, about the world, “why is the sky blue, mommy”, right? Go on and on. And he said something interesting, he said by about grade two or three, this gets indoctrinated out of us and we get to the point where the official line is what we’re paying attention to…

MARK: It’s drawn in the sand.

JOHN: …and surprisingly, I mean maybe the official line is basically boring because basically, this shuts down that curiosity, and one of the things Kris said was, that part of his motivation and intention was to rekindle, to re-spark in us that that wonderful curiosity, so that we don’t even take what he says as being the gospel, forgive the word, but that we… it awakens within us this feeling of saying “well what the heck is really going on there?” and our own natural curiosity starts taking off again and leading us into all kinds of exciting new places!

MARK: We also talked a little bit about the DNA.

JOHN: Yeah, he said something very interesting. I mean Mark, over dinnertime you sort of said “well, I mean of course it makes sense, because if we’re gonna construct this whole reality, then we really need to know how to make it.”

MARK: Yeah, your comment was that your DNA contains all the DNA of all living life forms in your reality.

JOHN: Yeah! And, I mean you know, when you think of it, that does make sense, because we need, as I said, I mean, in order for me to construct an ostrich, I have to know in detail how ostriches work.

SERGE: Especially laying those big eggs.

(Laughter)

JOHN: Yeah, you wanna be careful with that.

(Laughter)

MATT: Sure, it’s the hologram principle.

MARK: Yup.

JOHN: Yeah, that’s right, that’s true, too. Every part of the picture is included in every little piece of the picture. Well I think we’re going to be visited.

KRIS: Indeed, the visiting hours are on. Now we trust that you are comfortable and we thank you for your consideration.

MARK: Thank you.

KRIS: Indeed, in matters of your DNA, you can notice for instance, in the transformational stages of the fetus, that as it progresses the one, into the multiple divisions of cells until it attains its particular state, slightly prior to birth, you may notice that the fetus resembles that of other animals and creatures.

MARK: That’s true.

KRIS: Now this is taken as a sure-fire sign, an IRREFUTABLE representation of the standard theories of evolution. And as far as we are concerned, that may or may not be so. But from our point of view, it is much more so a reflection of the transformational capabilities of your DNA as it progresses through various stages, not in terms of your Darwinian evolution, but more so in terms of the multiple lattices or latticework of DNA construction, going through various stages. Does that make some sense to you?

JOHN: It’s very interesting, yes.

KRIS: Thus you may in that way, perceive that in a human being, contains the expressions of the DNA of all other life forms within your particular domain or dimension if you wish, or even your own plane of existence. And from that, it would be then possible to extrapolate all other life forms as we suggested last week. Does that make sense to you?

MARK: Yes it does.

(John confirms)

KRIS: Now, such proclamations are considered anathema to the official line of consciousness, but then many of you are not particularly inclined to tow the official line of consciousness, at least not all the way. And you are becoming more and more inclined to explore the unofficial realities that are also contained within your own thoughts, within your own psyche. They too exist. And your own curiosity, your own interests, your own drives and creativity naturally draw you to explore those particular realities, those particular lines of consciousness. Does that make sense to you?

(John confirms)

MARK: Indeed.

KRIS: You could say that you are like moths drawn to the flame. Once that flame becomes alive, the moths will be drawn to it. As crude an example as this may be, we believe it may apply.

MARK: I don’t know whether to be insulted or not. (Laughing)

JOHN: Well instead of going and bursting into flames, we become illuminated.

MARK: Okay. (Still chuckling)

KRIS: You may feel that it be impossible to be drawn away from the flame of knowledge in that way, the light of knowledge and of illumination, that is what we meant. Does that make sense?

JOHN: Yes.

MARK: Yes, of course.

KRIS: And you may not burst into flames, though sometimes you may get singed.

MARK: Icarus syndrome.

KRIS: Thus your own innate hunger for nourishing, food for nourishment of the soul as it were, draws you to those buffets that are open, especially “all you can eat”. Once you begin to taste, you do realize, for all intents and purposes that you may have been starving for all this time. For example, many, many, many individuals who have come across the Seth material found themselves almost unable to stop reading the material because they found fulfillment. They found answers. They were able to satiate that hunger they did not know existed within them, because the material evoked their own knowledge. Does that make sense?

JOHN: Oh yeah.

MARK: Yes.

KRIS: And in that light, we would like to present a small meditative state that may assist the listeners anywhere and everywhere become more acquainted with their own inner states, inner developmental structures including DNA, especially in such a fashion where they might later on, on their own, utilize the same principle to flip those switches pertaining to limiting belief factors, transforming limitations into opportunities for nourishment and knowledge. And along that vein, we also desire to point out, when we speak of your inner creative genius, it is an important distinction to make, in that we are not necessarily referring to what you may all consider intelligence or the intellect ala Einstein. Do you follow?

JOHN: I think so. You’re talking about the higher intellect.

KRIS: Indeed, which stems from, and exists in a state of wisdom far beyond any aspects of the intellect. As the intellect, the rational conscious mind may actually be able to totally or completely grasp, and it is then a gradual process. Does that make sense to you?

(Both confirm)

KRIS: This type of creative genius also feeds what you consider to be your intelligence, your intellect, but sustains it with a solid foundation that does not neglect the ego at all, but embraces all aspects of the personality. Therefore what we ask is that on the one hand, our lovely friends and listening audience in Skypeland, suspend their need to type and chat to each other, at least for the duration of this little exercise, so that they may all benefit in a more complete fashion by drawing all of their attention into the concentration.

MARK: And do not, please do not listen to this while driving a car or operating machinery.

(Laughter)

MEDITATION

KRIS: Even if you record it and later on think it might be good to listen in the car, we strongly advise against it. Thus if you are all feeling ready and prepared for this small journey, then we suggest taking a very nice deep breath and exhaling with a sigh of relief, an audible sigh of relief.

(Pause for audible sighs, and Kris’ delivery continues at a nice, rhythmic pace)

KRIS: And do so again, very nice exhalation with a sigh of relief and a third one to soothe body, mind and soul, allowing yourself to enter a peaceful state of awareness, indeed even allowing yourself such a deepening state of relaxation as unlike any you have ever allowed yourself to experience before. And allow this deepening state of relaxation to continue expanding, as you listen to the sound and tone of our voice.

And as that you allow this relaxation to deepen within you, you are entirely free to release all tension in the body, you may even choose to do just that, choosing to release, let go of all tensions, all restraints, all conflict, all stress, letting it rise above you like so much steam or fog, allowing the body to deepen the relaxed state, starting from the very top of your heads, perhaps even in the fingertips and the tips of your toes, perhaps somewhere along your body you feel some kind of sensation that induces a deeper relaxation still.

And allow that feeling in your body to begin expanding, reaching more and more of the body. Your breathing deepening, allowing more and more relaxation to settle in, replacing all stress, tension, conflict, as if in some magical way you are bathing in a pool or tub of relaxation that soothes the entire body from the top of your head, down to the tips of your toes and even extends beyond the body as if somehow or other you are completely floating in a flotation tank of relaxation, of centeredness, of being grounded in your energy.

And from that very deep relaxed state, you can choose to pretend or imagine or feel that your awareness, your concentration begins to sharpen and condense till it is possible for you to be as a sharp, tiny, luminous point of attention. Just a tiny awareness, floating perhaps in the great energy of your body, in the great sea of energy that makes up your physical form and still, as a tiny luminous point of attention, you are fully yourself.

And from that vantage point as a tiny luminous point of attention, you are still able to connect to the tone and energy of our voice, experiencing your own kind of relaxation and directing your energies to the great flow of consciousness within your physical form and asking your subconscious mind to draw you towards a strand of DNA, the double helix so nicely represented, that indeed represents the construction of your DNA.

Perhaps to you, from your point of luminous attention, the strand of DNA may even look enormous, mountainous even. And from that perspective, you can further ask your subconscious energies to direct you to those indentations or marks on the strands of DNA that would indicate the energetic deposits of your belief structures, especially in areas that you are considering transforming from limitations into opportunities for growth, joy, happiness, fulfillment, enrichment, and ask your subconscious energies then to assist you in pinpointing those reservoirs of such energies, and unravel the programming within the energy, diffusing the charges of energy and anywhere limitation, restriction, fear, holding back, and anything related to those attitudes and beliefs become diffused, that that charge goes into the opposite direction so that all of these limitations and fears become opportunities for growth, transformation, opportunities that open your life to abundance, to love, to joy.

And whether you sense you feel, you pretend, you see or imagine the energy being transformed, and the coding being transformed, and take on a new life, and all the subsequent subcategories of beliefs become affected by the change and transformation at that level of consciousness begins to cascade where it is now becoming easier and easier for you to know what it feels like to be free of limitation, free of fear, free of what holds you back, so that you experience fulfillment, abundance, joy, happiness.

Know what it is like to feel those particular experiences and allow the energies at that deep layer of consciousness to keep doing the work at the level of the DNA so that those switches which turned on programming that would limit you no longer function in that capacity but instead turn on those behaviors and patterns that are enriched, that are motivated and fuelled by beliefs in your self-worth, your worthiness to have joy, abundance, happiness, the life you desire.

And just allow the flow of that energy to continue working at that deep, deep layer of consciousness until it becomes like a rushing torrent of life that fills all of those niches that fills the DNA patterns, that fills the fibers of awareness and consciousness within the atoms and molecules that compose the cellular structure of your body from the inside, working its way towards the outside, from deep, deep within the idea and concept of yourself comes a new light, a new being, reborn within itself, a literal phoenix of consciousness.

Allow it to flow into your veins, into your bones, from the marrow onward, into your mind, knowing that you may begin to look for confirmation of these deep changes and transformations at that level of your DNA, and begin noticing that confirmation within the expressions of your physical life. And every day, in every way, you become more and more of whom you desire being.

And you may listen to this recording every few days, putting yourself in touch with the flow of that energy for 30 days. Allowing the processes you have now triggered into action to draw themselves to completion. And as you can feel the process continuing within you, trusting that your lovely Inner Self is working with you, to your advantage, and that the universe is aligning itself with your purpose, as the universe becomes manifest even within you.

And in this way, you are at peace, you are congruent, you are fulfilled. You may begin to return your awareness now to the functions of your physical body, expanding your point of concentration to fill your entire form once again, becoming aware of your breathing, your hands and feet, your arms and legs, your entire body, and on the count of three, being fully awake and aware. If you had your eyes closed, you may open them. One, two, and three, fully return to yourself, aware, cognizant and awake, clear in your minds. And may we suggest a break.

JOHN: Good idea, Kris.

(Musical interlude intermission)

MARK: Welcome back to Kris radio here on thatradio.com. And I think that’s literally “welcome back.”

(Laughter)

JOHN: I don’t think there’s a better time, a better call for a break that we’ve ever had. That was break time big time!

MARK: How are you guys doing in the hot tub?

MATT: Wow…

SERGE: Swimmingly?

MATT: …you know what, that was incredible!

JOHN: Did you notice he pulled the hot tub in there? He said just imagine you’re swimming in like a, you know, sensory deprivation tank or a hot tub of whatever? It was… I could see you guys just kinda floating there.

MATT: Oh, you know what, his meditations are incredible!

JOHN: U-huh! Well that one, honestly, just took the cake as far as I’m concerned. I’m getting a, as I say, I’m gonna download the audio and listen to that, what did he say, every two or three days for thirty days?

MATT: Yeah.

JOHN: And then all your little DNA will just be singing!

NICOLE: How wonderful is that.

MATT: And where can you, where can you go and recode your DNA? – Kris Radio.

MARK: Kris Radio. (Chuckling) Wow.

HUGH: We have a question on the phone.

JOHN: Oh good!

HUGH: We have Dave from Tokyo. If you wanna hit the blue button over there…

SERGE: From Tokyo?

HUGH: Yeah. Hit the blue button and we should be good to go.

SERGE: Hello.

DAVE: Hello.

SERGE: You’re on the air.

DAVE: Oh, thank you very much. I’ll just put my computer on mute. I’m Dave, I’m calling from Tokyo, I’m a great fan, I’m sorry, I just tuned in when he was doing his meditation so I’m not sure what the subject matter is, very brief question here. I’ve been doing a project to deal with some personal alcohol-related issues related to changing the past, my own development of Seth methods. And the new past that I see, I was given orange juice and not sherry with Christmas dinner, age 8.

(Laughter)

DAVE: And as a result I’ve had some very dramatic and somewhat traumatic physical events that occurred which have left me completely stopping drinking and I’d like Kris to comment on this whole area as he sees fit, changing the past, thank you very much.

MARK: Okay, Kris isn’t with us at the moment, as soon as he comes back, we’ll get him to comment on that.

SERGE: Okay, we’re going to hang up the phone? Right?

HUGH: Right. That sounds like that’s what he wants.

SERGE: Okay. And we’ll see if Kris can answer it in you know, eight or ten minutes, so… thank you. Thank you very much for calling in.

DAVE: Thank you, I’ll sign off now, then. Thank you very much.

SERGE: Thank you, bye-bye.

MARK: That was Dave from Tokyo.

JOHN: That was an interesting question, eh?

MARK: Yeah.

JOHN: And I like that, the image of getting orange, oranges instead of… what did he say? Christmas sherry or something when he was a kid, and that changed the past and that’s very interesting, but he said some… he’s having some dist… he had sort of accomplished that at some level, but then that he was having some disturbing symptoms… very interesting question. Here we come!

KRIS: Now we thank you for having shared this process. We would recommend that in future, if there are questions, they actually be e-mailed to either Joseph or Philip. Their e-mail addresses can easily be found on the Krischronicles.com website.

As to changing the past, you may find that your own beliefs concerning the past, the present and the future are conflicting with the notions of changing anything. Our humble suggestion is to listen to this meditative process we have offered, as we have recommended it, and allow the transformations to gently take place within your reality. In many ways, it is not necessary to change the past as you would consider it in any sense of the word, according to your definitions. What you need to process is your definitions of times past, present and future, as you believe they exist. That is far more significant. And for all intents and purposes, that which creates is always the present moment. It is within that moment that you create a past significant to your belief structures as well as a future significant to your belief structures. And they are all created within the present moment, the now. That is the central matrix of consciousness, is the now. Does that make sense to you?

MARK: Yes.

JOHN: Absolutely.

KRIS: In a nutshell, that is what we are presently, now offering as an answer to such an endearing question. It may prove far easier than to struggle about concepts of times past and present and future and how they may be deconstructed. Do you follow?

(John confirms)

KRIS: Indeed then, we would engage all of you to go back to before break. (Kris resumes a soothing, rhythmic tempo to his delivery)

All you need do is take a nice deep breath, exhale beautifully, and allow your minds, your awareness to return to that lovely space, that singular luminous point of attention within the consciousness that forms your body, as you are simultaneously part of that consciousness yet different from it, return gently to that particular point of attention.

And in your, once again, deepening relaxation, allowing the sentience of your DNA to spring up in your awareness once again, and notice perhaps an unusual phenomenon, but such that even the points of light in the heavens, in the firmament, in space, representing celestial bodies, perhaps even solar systems, even galaxies and far away systems, are also part of the contents of your DNA. All That Is and all the All That Is’s are also part of that deep energy that flows through each of you at that level of the DNA.

And all of that energy has one purpose: to manifest your well-being, your desires. The entire universe bends in your direction. All of that energy sides with you to complement your creative genius and inner wisdom to fulfill your life. That is the kind of energy you can bank on, you can tap into. And it flows within even the tiniest particle of awareness that composes your form and any ideas and concepts of whom and what you are. And very nicely now, take another deep breath, becoming aware again of your physical form, your heart beat, your surroundings, open your eyes, be fully awake and aware, and return to being who you are. And that is a loaded statement.

(Laughter)

KRIS: Now, what is the time?

MARK: Five minutes to.

KRIS: Indeed! Do you, or you have any inquiries or are there others in the room who have inquiries?

MARK: How about Matt and Nicole?

(Silence)

KRIS: They are perhaps still floating in space.

MATT: Um, yeah, we’re just coming out of it, but actually there’s really not any inquiries from here. I think everyone is still in that meditative state.

KRIS: It is, from our perspective a very good place to be.

MARK: I agree.

KRIS: You may even ask your Inner Self to take you into dreams that exemplify those representations of the universe within you. What about your lovely selves here?

MARK: No questions. I’m feeling very comfortable.

JOHN: Yeah I had a tummy ache when I came in but I seem to have lost it.

KRIS: You were simply…

MATT: I’ve got a question.

KRIS: …expressing some nervousness from an event of, we believe perhaps one or two days ago that you felt unsettled with.

JOHN: Oh, okay.

KRIS: You have an inquiry.

MATT: Yeah I have a question. What you’re saying is that we can go, we can literally change our DNA and if we use the hologram principle, our DNA is a small part of the universe and so what you’re saying is that we can you know, you’ve been telling us every time we hear you, we can create our reality, and so essentially it’s the same thing isn’t it?

KRIS: In many respects, and do take into consideration that we usually aim for practicality as well. Thus you cannot make yourselves into 10 foot tall individuals.

MARK: Unless you’re 9 foot 9 (inches) and you wear heels.

(Laughter)

KRIS: But for all intents and purposes, you can change the very foundational structure of your reality which is at basement level, the… shall we say the bargain basement of beliefs. You can trade your beliefs in that way. Does that make sense?

MATT: Yes.

KRIS: Now what is the time?

MARK: Time to go.

KRIS: Indeed then, we thank you all for your lovely consideration and many sweet dreams.

JOHN: Thanks for that meditation Kris.

MARK: Thank you Kris.

MATT: Thank you Kris.

JOHN: That was a humdinger!

NICOLE: Thank you!

MARK: Thanks to Matt and Nicole.

MATT: Hey Mark, before you sign off, we had… Alan asked a question, if you… and asked if you could excerpt the meditation and put it on your website as a download?

MARK: We will do our best!

MATT: That would be great.

MARK: Thanks to all the Skypers, all the listeners, Dave in Tokyo…

JOHN: Yes, thank you Dave for calling.

MARK: …Hugh and Randy. And stay tune for “Spiritualism and the New Age” with Catherine MacDonald, goodnight!

JOHN: Goodnight everybody!

MATT: Goodnight everybody!

NICOLE: Goodnight!

(Session ends)

Moral & Ethical Value Judgments

January 27, 2008

Kris Chronicles – Ethical and Moral Value Judgments
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Ellen Gilbert (Kwaa’Ji)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on Sunday, January 27, 2008
Roll Call: Serge (Joseph), Mark (Philip), John (Sohars), Myrna (Shara-Leene), and David (Elohim)

(7:44 PM)

KRIS: Now we trust that you are comfortable and warm.

MARK: Yes, thank you.

KRIS: And we thank you for your consideration. Have you given any thought or observed what most individuals do with feelings and emotions?

MARK: Bury them as deep as they can!

KRIS: What else?

DAVID: Some are bubbly… it jumps out.

MYRNA: Sometimes I let them control me. Take over the moment.

KRIS: Indeed, and what else might the average individual do with his or her feelings and emotions? Now, we can specify especially those that might bring even the slightest discomfort.

MYRNA: Dampen them down, fight with them….

MARK: Deny.

MYRNA: Deny… Not recognize perhaps that there is a meaningful message here and so not engage with them meaningfully…. well, that’s not true, it’s always meaningful, but not engage with them.

KRIS: Indeed. Anything else?

DAVID: They don’t recognize it, so they don’t know what to do with it.

KRIS: Indeed, these are all very apt descriptions concerning what many people tend to do with feelings and emotions that are even slightly discomforting. As you yourselves are aware, such actions may lead to other even more uncomfortable experiences, correct?

MARK: Absolutely!

KRIS: What would you offer to someone you know of, perhaps someone you are speaking with, that may make mention that at different times they feel these uncomfortable states. What might you offer this person?

MARK: Triple ‘A.’

JOHN: Oh, I’d offer them the idea — and I just ran into this recently — and that is that when you engage an emotion and acknowledge it, it’s e-motion; it’s energy in motion. It will transform itself into something beneficial.

KRIS: Indeed that could very well be a very important key because the more you seek to suppress and deny, bury, ignore feelings and emotions of an uncomfortable nature, you are inevitably giving them even more stature, more power, more energy, as you are more or less forced to concentrate upon the battle within, or, as you might also consider, the Battle Royale. Does that make sense?

(Yes)

MYRNA: What I might offer is something I learned from Abraham many years ago and that is something that is creating… or I am creating, I am uncomfortable, I am experiencing some negative emotion. I would like to look at what may be causing that because there is a “don’t want” going on possibly, and within the “don’t want” is a very important WANT, so I would want to dig into what might be there for me.

KRIS: Indeed, that might be a very important distinction. Very much so, as we suggested many times in the past, all of your questions actually contain the answers, all of your struggles actually contain the solutions, even that all of your “don’t wants” also contain what you want. Anything else?

MARK: Well, your emotional states, your feelings are gauges that let you know where your energy is at and what you are concentrating upon, so utilizing that you can figure out what you are concentrating upon and change that.

KRIS: Indeed. Thus there are many different kinds of approaches. Not one is necessarily better or worse than the other and there are likely many more that you do not necessarily know of that work just as well for other people. The point being firstly to make some acknowledgment or recognition of your present state, recognizing for instance, what it is that you are not wanting in this moment and in the acknowledging of that experience, there might even be an immediate recognition of what it is that you are wanting. Does that make sense?

(Yes)

Thus there is an important action at play here and since it involves emotions and feelings, a recognition that emotions and feelings in and of themselves are not the source of the discomfort, but mainly its communication can also carry you a to great distance towards the resolution of what it is that you are not wanting to face. Does that also make sense?

(Yes)

And whether one chooses to venture there or not, the point is action. We have mentioned this a few other times in the past, of the need for action, not that one should simply because we suggest it, but that instead, an individual can truly empower himself or herself, simply by the acknowledging that there is an action of resistance to the communication and the communication indicates that it has a source. You know very well, for instance, that your televisions and radios are not the source of what you are listening to or watching, correct? That there is something outside of that instrument. The television program or the radio program is not originating from the box but that the box is communicating that program in the same way that your emotions and feelings are communicating the program or the message. Does that make sense to you?

(Yes)

And the message and its source are also not the source of the discomfort. Instead, the opposing or resistance to the communication or its source, is the nature of the discomfort itself. Does that also make sense?

JOHN: That’s very interesting!

MYRNA: Mmhm.

KRIS: Because in and of themselves, are emotions particularly something good or something bad? Do emotions and feelings themselves have any ethical and moral values? Indeed not. They simply are. You, on the other hand, interpret the communication as suits your state of mind and awareness. Does that make sense?

(Yes)

So it could be said that the source of the discomfort is in your judgments concerning the values, moral or ethical or otherwise that you have attached to the communiqué. Does that also make sense?

MARK: Yes.

KRIS: Our proposal is that in understanding the communication and its source in that way, you might be benefiting from the knowledge that you are not under siege or under attack by any types of feelings or emotions, but instead, you are building up defenses which are perhaps even draining your energies which are requiring you to block off what you do not want to deal with. That in itself can be a source of discomfort or even pain to some degree. Does that make sense?

(Yes)

And again, our proposal is that this perspective or point of view may give you indeed a great advantage in knowing that your feelings and emotions are not sources of conflict, but instead may point to the source of the conflict so that you may make necessary corrections and from this slightly removed point of view, an enhanced observer position, you may have then, an additional tool or resource with which to understand the reality that you are in the act of creating. Do you follow?

(Yes)

With this slight advantageous point of view or perspective, it might then be much easier to make allowances in your experience of life, enriching yourself that much more in the understanding that you are truly an ingenious little creator. Perhaps still in the diaper stage, but a powerful little creator nonetheless. Any inquiries so far?

DAVID: Kris, can you comment on Abraham saying look at the feeling in the sense of it’s a positive or a negative? It’s two that really matter, if it’s a plus or a minus, positive or negative and that’s your GPS — Global positioning system — your thermometer… to run with that, you don’t need dozens or thousands of feelings, just in a plus or minus….

KRIS: Human beings are driven towards that which gives pleasure and drive away from that which gives the opposite. Do you follow?

DAVID: True.

KRIS: And it is from our perspective indeed fine and dandy to deal with these two perspectives because again your emotions, your feelings themselves are neither negative nor positive. You are the one who assigns moral and ethical perspectives to your feelings. Do you follow?

DAVID: Can you define a feeling? Such as an emotional feeling versus a physical feeling?

KRIS: If you step on a piece of glass, it is not comfortable, but if you step on fresh cut grass, it may feel very nice. That is the judgment of your experience. In and of itself, you are simply stepping on different things at the physical level. Do you follow?

DAVID: Yes.

KRIS: One experience is desirable over the other.

DAVID: Yes, certainly.

KRIS: At the psychological, emotional, feeling level you have other similar experiences, do you follow?

DAVID: Certainly.

KRIS: Thus you are not necessarily going to seek out fields of broken glass upon which you would walk barefoot. You would rather seek fields of fresh cut grass instead. It is your natural disposition to draw yourself towards that which is pleasant and withdraw from that, which is the opposite, according to your own values. Does that make sense to you?

DAVID: Yes.

KRIS: All the same, the experience is merely one of action, and that is our point specifically. You, as a human being, all human beings, determine what is for you pleasurable and less pleasurable. It is based upon your primordial drives towards certain types of situations and away from others. You call it your fight or flight syndrome. Do you follow?

DAVID: Sure.

KRIS: So in so many words, your tendency is to attract and move towards all actions that give you pleasure and to move away from that which you consider not pleasure and that includes feelings, emotions. And our particular point with this and the quotation you made, specifically is that if there is a little or no understanding as to why you end up with experiences you do not want repeatedly and all you do is run away from them, then you will have to keep running away from them for a very long time. Does that make sense?

DAVID: Sure.

KRIS: Thus, understanding the nature of those inner actions and their source, firstly in understanding that the feelings themselves are not the source of the discomfort but merely alerting you to a situation that needs to be addressed may very well be the experience that catapults you into resolving issues that you may have been running away from for a long time. Do you follow?

DAVID: Yes.

KRIS: Does that make sense to all of you?

MARK: Absolutely.

JOHN: I’m going to ask a question Kris.

KRIS: Indeed.

JOHN: Remember you established the idea that it’s a human predisposition to move away from what we don’t want and move towards what we do want. And we have an emotion that we find unpleasant. Following the first idea, our natural movement is away from that feeling.

KRIS: Indeed.

JOHN: And you’re suggesting that that is a little short-sighted perhaps and that we’re attributing, falsely attributing, the discomfort we feel to the emotion rather than to our judgment about it.

KRIS: Continue.

JOHN: (Chuckling) Okay… Well, that’s very interesting, because at the first blush, we say, “Of course we run away from emotions we don’t like in the same sense that we run away from glass and run towards the grass!” But you’re saying, “Okay, hold that just a minute, though. Don’t immediately run away from an emotion that you don’t like. Stop for a moment and consider that it’s not the emotion that’s causing the discomfort.”

KRIS: Correct.

JOHN: It’s the beliefs you have and what have you. It basically boils down to your resistance to the message of the emotions that’s causing the discomfort.

KRIS: Indeed!

JOHN: Okay, well…. I guess that wasn’t really a question, was it?! (Laughing)

KRIS: But it was indeed a very nice summarizing!

JOHN: Well, that’s my job, I guess!

DAVID: I have a question. With respect to the emotion plus minus one zero good bad, we’ll focus on the negative, so I feel cheesed off at this, or I feel frustrated about this, or I feel angry about this… so there are three words.

KRIS: Indeed. Very worthy feelings as well.

DAVID: Is there any advantage to diving into that layer of cheesed-off, frustrated or anger or just assign those three…. I don’t know which one it is, it’s just negative and I deal with it front that point of view.

KRIS: The usual tendency is to look towards someone or something to blame for the feelings. “You caused me to feel that way.”

DAVID: “You made me feel that way,” yes.

KRIS: Indeed. It is a very common approach. It is one you are indeed taught to cultivate in your societies at first glance, but when you take a closer look at any such situation, can it truly be fair to claim that it is someone else that made you feel that particular way, or that instead, you have chosen to feel that way in response to a situation? Does that make sense? In other words, is it truer that you are the one that is feeling that as opposed to someone making you feel that?

DAVID: Question?

KRIS: Continue.

DAVID: I hear what you’re saying and yes, I agree at one level, but at another level, if a friend knows my buttons and he purposely pushes my buttons (Chuckling), then their making my reality, too.

JOHN: Yeah, but who made your friends and your buttons?

(Thoughtful pause)

KRIS: You are awaiting an answer? Truth be told, even your friends cannot truly push your buttons unless you permit it.

MYRNA: Well, you set it up to begin with, anyway, didn’t you?

KRIS: Indeed! One way or another. The other is not responsible for your state of feelings, because you can choose to feel something entirely different. What we are driving at is that you have as human beings a very large repertoire of feelings and emotions, actions and reactions; however, you utilize a very small slice of this larger inventory and your emotional reactions to the world as it were, becomes limited to only a few types of expressions.

Consider that the average human being on any given day entertains anywhere between fifty to sixty thousand thoughts, each of them reaching into a range of emotions and feeling-tones that you play like a musical instrument all day, many of such inner situations that you are unaware of because you do not pay attention. And we do not recommend that you make any kind of effort or attempt to be aware of such an enormous inventory. This is merely to indicate that there is much more going on in your noggins than you give yourselves credit for, because all of your thoughts basically come with an entire entourage. As we asked on a recent radio show: if we say the cat is playing with a toy, what do you see in your mind’s eye?

DAVID: A ball of string and a cat.

KRIS: What color is your cat?

DAVID: Grey and white, baby cat, playfully bouncing around.

KRIS: And what color is your cat?

MYRNA: Black.

KRIS: And what is the cat playing with?

MYRNA: It’s not. It’s just looking at me.

KRIS: Indeed. So it wants to play with you?

MYRNA: Exactly.

KRIS: And you?

JOHN: Mine is a calico cat and he’s playing with his own tail. He knows it’s his own tail, but at the same time, every time it flicks….! (Chuckling) And I don’t know what color calico is! (To Mark) What about yours?

MARK: I actually get different images with different lines of thought, but sometimes it’s Mookie playing with a scrunched up cash register receipt and sometimes it’s other cats that I’ve known throughout my life that have played with various toys, but I do come up with some very specific imagery.

JOHN: You’ve got a multi-dimensional cat thing going on there!

MARK: (Chuckling) Yes.

KRIS: He has a caterie!

JOHN: A cat-egory! Ha ha!

KRIS: Now then, such a simple, small sentence or phrase elicits a great variety within all of you, did it not?

(Yes)

And you even had some degree of pleasantness in looking at your cat or kitten play. It brought up feelings as well as images. If push came to shove, it might even be possible for you to describe the space that the cat is in. It could be a room, it could be the back yard, it could be anywhere and so much more could be added to your imagery. All this to say that your thoughts are very complex organizational structures and that it is even very likely that your experiences about your thoughts again are very small compared to what is actually occurring or operating within you. Does that make sense?

(Yes)

If one small phrase about the cat playing with the toy can elicit that kind of response within you that you have drawn up, that you have given meaning to, then you might also give consideration to the idea that you give similar meaning to absolutely everything in your life, even deep meaning to that which you oppose. Which is one reason why you may be so stubbornly good at what you oppose! It doesn’t necessarily always mean that you are clever in what you oppose, merely that you are stubborn about it.

(Chuckling)

Because it is also an observational fact, as it were, that if you do not get it the first time, or the tenth time, or the hundredth time, or the thousandth time, you may try for one thousand and one, even though all previous times have proven devoid of results that are constructive to you because you have given it a specific meaning to yourself. So the resistance might indeed be a big investment on your part. Does that make sense?

(Yes)

As such you are wont to keep it even in the face of much more gain if you release it.

MYRNA: That’s so odd.

KRIS: Indeed! Do you want to expand upon that?

MYRNA: (Chuckling)

JOHN: Yes, please!

MYRNA: You’ve often said in the past that life is about the opposing and allowing and I just find it fascinating that I’ve allowed things into my life of late that I thought I wanted and they’re here and I find myself into resistance! And I want to give myself a shake. I can’t figure out why I would be resistant. No… It’s not even that. It’s larger than that. I mean. It’s just these two poles, the allowing and opposing. I just find it weird.

KRIS: And have you also noticed firstly that if you remove any kind of moral and ethical value judgments about those situations, you simply recognize that this is something that both are inviting and opposing in your life simultaneously. Neither one is necessarily bad or worse or better; they just are. What do you notice the most?

MYRNA: That I seem to spend more time in my life opposing.

KRIS: And at the same time, what does it do for you?

MYRNA: Well, obviously it’s doing something…. It feels like I’m keeping myself stuck in a place. And I’m not judging myself…. well, maybe I am but –

MARK: (Referring to Kris’ expression and chuckling) Do you see the smirk?

(Group laughs)

KRIS: You do realize that sometimes even opposing the taste of bran muffins causes movement! Suffice it to say that for you and for many individuals, this creates an arena or a laboratory if you wish, within which this apparent conundrum facilitates some of your own creative energies and manifesting power. So even in the face of yourself being your own adversary, you still manage to create very interesting situations, do you not?

MYRNA: I’m not sure I’d use the adjective “interesting,” but –

(Group chuckling)

KRIS: (Humorously) “Interesting” can be a very interesting word!

MYRNA: Yes! Frustrating.

KRIS: It is said for instance that the Chinese have a very nice saying that they might actually offer someone else that “May you live in interesting times.” That can be interpreted in many different ways.

JOHN: It’s actually a curse.

(Laughter)

MYRNA: So perhaps… Now I get why you use the word “manifesting” So perhaps in my resistance I’m moving myself forward, because I’m identifying the don’t wants and then therefore the wants.

KRIS: Indeed.

MYRNA: So resistance… I’d like to shift that, by the way! (Laughs) In my next life I would like my major modus operandi to be allowing!

DAVID: By weight!

MYRNA: I don’t know. I seem to have programmed myself this way.

JOHN: But also, Myrna, if I could suggest something. Let’s not be hasty here. I caught an undercurrent in what Kris was suggesting. Let’s say that deep down that I have a feeling that life is meaningless and that I’m meaningless and have no value. Well, if I can continually mount great battles that I have to face every day, then this reassures me that my life has meaning and that I have some value.

KRIS: Even when you have to create or manifest situations that seem to indicate that life has no value or meaning, you will create it to prove a point, which further indicates that you are willing to create exactly that which is necessary according to your convictions, which also means that regardless of the value judgments you apply to any situation, above and beyond that you will still continue to create. It is a force, and unstoppable force. You cannot avoid it. You cannot not create!

JOHN: But if I can rest in my being-ness as being sufficient in value, then I don’t have to create a battle every day so that I can end the day feeling that I have accomplished something.

KRIS: That is also correct. The whole point is that one of the most powerful ingredients that you utilize over and above all other things is ethical and moral value judgments to guide you into the manifestations of your own convictions. It is perhaps a roundabout way to get at this point, but one that is also very important because principally you judge yourselves. You may think you are judging situations and other people, conditions and events of life, but what you are truly doing is judging yourself and your capacities. Does that make sense?

(Yes)

And at the level of that judgment, you might be at a stage where most of your self-directed judgments are not necessarily of a constructive nature to you in that sense of the word, perhaps thinking of yourselves as very poor or bad creators or manifesters. Do you follow?

(Yes)

Whilst in truth, you are neither good nor bad. You simply are manifesters and the moment you recognize that you are injecting perhaps even a very destructive discounting judgment upon yourself, you might be able to defuse the situation and be much easier on yourself. It could be said that many of today’s modern pollyanna-like philosophies might be preferable, but our point of view is if in your most intimate mind you consider yourself a truly flawed individual and you think you must not judge, judging is bad, you are reinforcing the notion that you are being judgmental and you are trying to instill an artificial situation where you would then try to claim that you are a very loving, spiritual, beautiful, energetic creature, whilst again, in your intimate mind, you are listening to that and you might be gagging.

(Group chuckling)

Do you follow?

JOHN: Oh yeah… I don’t want to, but I do!

KRIS: All we are suggesting, then, in this roundabout discussion is to offer the possibility that you might consider that even your self-judgments are unnecessary. You will inevitably make a judgment about something, anything, everything. So if you do that and then more or less punish yourself, judging yourself to be an unspiritual being because you are judging, then what are you doing? Do you follow?

JOHN: Sure, you’re second guessing yourself.

KRIS: Indeed, it may be just like the powerful waves of the ocean gnawing away at the underside of the cliff until one day there is no more support and the top of the cliff comes tumbling down. Do you follow?

(Yes)

Thus, understanding that you will be offering judgments on anything and everything, including perhaps more so yourselves; coming to terms with that fact may indeed liberate much of your energies and knowing that you will make a situation possible within yourself, understanding that you are doing this and not making a judgment about doing this is perhaps far more relevant than beating yourselves over the head all day long because you think you are making judgments or making judgments about making judgments. Do you follow?

Again, many philosophies and teachings suggest that one must control the mind to quiet the mind. We are suggesting that for the most part, if you charge in there like a bull in a china shop of thoughts, you may end up with far more than you bargained for, because you cannot resist having thoughts. Fighting them in an attempt to control them will avail you of what? More conflict and the addition that you will consider yourself a very poor thinker or controller of your thoughts. Does that make sense?

(Yes)

And in truth, do you think you could single-handedly truly control by your will the sixty-odd thousand thoughts that will come across your bow every day? The enormity of the task should paralyze you! So our suggestion is that instead of considering that you should not “should,” as this will bring additional conflict, it might be in your best interests to simply “‘fess up” to the fact that this is done, period, that you will not make a judgment of any kind towards that fact that you do this. Which do you think would be preferable, constantly second-guessing yourself thinking “Oh, dear! I have just judged a situation, therefore I judge myself to be a poor person for having judged this situation!” day in and day out, or simply recognizing, “Yes, I do this and I will not judge myself either way because I do this, period.” Which is preferable to you?

JOHN: Well, the second one is much easier. I’m getting a tiny bit confused and it may just be terminology, but you seem to be saying that it’s completely natural and unstoppable for us to make judgments about things.

KRIS: Indeed, that is how you determine if something is pleasurable for you or not pleasurable for you.

JOHN: But at the second layer you seem to be saying that it’s within our power to NOT do that with ourselves and our habit for judging.

KRIS: Correct, because at that second layer, you are indeed in observer mode and you can be far more conscious of your own internal processing. Thus you can determine that you will make judgments on anything and everything, but you have the ability to not judge yourself as being a poor individual for making judgments. It is a subtle but very important difference.

JOHN: Okay, okay.

KRIS: Do you get that?

JOHN: I think so. So at that first layer of judgment, is let’s call it natural judgment, or innocent judgment, saying “I like this, I don’t like that.”

KRIS: Indeed, it is a portion of the functions of the ego construction.

JOHN: Right. Now it’s that second layer of judgment that causes problems, is not innocent, natural, spontaneous judgment of what you like and don’t like, that’s what let’s call an acquired judgment in the same sense of acquired beliefs.

KRIS: Indeed. The first layer more or less makes certain that you do not again put your hand on a burner on the stove while it is turned off. It can indeed be a life preserving kind of judgment. The second layer will be so that you do not consider yourself a lesser person simply because you put your hand on the burner. The burner is not bad and neither are you. Does that make sense?

JOHN: Yeah…. Yeah, that’s a useful distinction to make.

KRIS: It is subtle, but as you are already aware, we enjoy subtleties.

DAVID: In those two layers, where does the fact come in? The fact that the sky is blue, that can be deemed as judgment: it’s blue to me, where would the fact come in in those two layers?

KRIS: Now the fact that the sky is blue, first of all, is only true to your…. what do you call these…?… your peepers!

(Chuckling from the group)

DAVID: Visual? The eyes?

KRIS: Indeed. It is the way the bandwidths of light are interpreted through the cones and rods in your eyes. For all intents and purposes, the sky is neither blue nor not-blue. Do you follow? To a bee, the sky would not be blue.

DAVID: Sounds fair. I don’t know for sure, but it sounds fair.

JOHN: The reason that that’s a tricky one, David, if I may interject, is that there’s no, in a sense, judgment about that. The sky is blue –

DAVID: To me..

JOHN: Right, but there’s no judgment about that. You’re not saying, “I like it; I don’t like it,” you’re just saying it is.

MARK: Is it a pleasurable blue, or an ugly blue? (Chuckling)

JOHN: If you change that slightly to say, “Oh, there’s a big storm cloud coming. It’s going to rain.” And you say, “Oh, dear, I was hoping to have a picnic.” Then that’s more in line with the discussion, I think, in the sense that you’re making a judgment about it, what your preferences are there. Or in the same sense, “Oh, that’s a beautiful sunset! I love it, it’s beautiful.” But I’m not a good person because I like it, that’s the second layer that’s unnecessary.

MARK: Or like that TV commercial that’s out now where everybody is racing out to beat down the morning sunrise on Monday morning, because that would mean they have to go to work and that would be a bad thing.

DAVID: Keep the sun down.

JOHN: That’s a good little example, actually.

KRIS: So did you answer your own question?

DAVID: It’s still not clear… there’s a fact, which is what John was hinting at… there’s a fact…

JOHN: But they’re neutral.

KRIS: You may not necessarily have to make any judgments about whether the water is wet. It simply is, but if you were walking in your finest suit and slipped into the brink and it ruined your suit, you might have very sailor-like expressions concerning the fact that your suit is now wet. But in and of itself, the water’s wetness is factual.

DAVID: Yes, agreed.

KRIS: It is not something you can truly decide whether you like or not.

DAVID: It simply is.

KRIS: Indeed. So respect that which is as well as yourself because you, in many ways, are as wetness is to water, as you are to yourself. You simply are. It is when you begin to pass judgment upon your own self for the fact that you are, that you begin to experience challenging and opposing situations.

DAVID: Would the analogy be “this bloody blue sky”, meaning “We want water, we’ve had a drought for years.” Is that what you’re…

KRIS: Either way, it will not change whether you will get rain or no rain on that day, and again, it is a futile situation to rail against the elements as it is to rail against your own nature. If you wish to expend energies, then do so in a manner that is benefiting you. Otherwise you begin to fall into the role and capacities of victim-hood. All of these belief systems are intertwined, one into the other, but that begins to open multiple cans of worms which we do not desire to venture into this evening, because we are not going fishing later on. Perhaps a break might be a good judgment call.

[Break at 8:43 PM. The group discusses the layers and permutations of judgment and judgmentalism, recapping the main points of Kris' presentation once again. Then David comes up with a slightly different scenario.]

DAVID: [Let's say] I’m allergic to cheese and you know that. I get a rash.

JOHN: Right.

DAVID: You invite me over for dinner and sneak a little bit of cheese into the lobster, just to see… wow…

JOHN: That sounds like something that actually happened.

DAVID: No no, it’s a scenario, in the sense of an allergic food reaction and you know that, so you’re purposely creating this thing to see what happens to me.

JOHN: Well, it’s a good little…

MYRNA: Yeah, but you created the person who is purposely creating that.

JOHN: Not only that but you created the cheese allergy.

MYRNA: Exactly.

DAVID: But it’s both ways. It’s instantaneously both ways.

MYRNA: I don’t think it matters –

JOHN: As I say, there’s no need to concern yourself with their motivations or perspective. That’s just not your responsibility.

MARK: If you actually stop and pretend that you are the only one that exists in the world and that everybody else is just a hologram that you have programmed to interact with you, what’s it about in regards to you? Why did you create that hologram to do that to you?

(Kris returns at this point.)

KRIS: Now, either way you cut that cheese –

(Everyone cracks up)

KRIS: — you cannot avoid that it is still your creation. The other’s actions only influence YOUR reaction, because you have allowed it. In other words, you are not a victim in THEIR co-creation with you. You are not a victim, period. You choose to play the game. You cannot say that soccer team A is a victim of soccer team B because you are both playing a game.

DAVID: Because B won?

KRIS: We do not say either winning or losing, just the act of playing. Either team is not a victim of the other, because you are playing the game, and in the same way, you are not a victim of someone who would put cheese in your food. If you had not wanted a specific experience, it would not occur, period.

JOHN: So at the subjective level, you’re engineering, you’re architecting all of this.

DAVID: And we’re back to the other side of the coin and that is, well they can do anything and it doesn’t matter.

KRIS: To you it should not matter unless you decide to play the game.

DAVID: So where’s the accountability at the other friend’s — it’s not an enemy, it’s a friend — and they’re playing a cheese game on me.

KRIS: The accountability is yours, depending on how you would react. You may understand that there was indeed perhaps a mistake, or they might not have understood the seriousness of your situation, but nonetheless, you are not a victim of their actions. The people are not a victim of their government’s actions. The government is not a victim of the people’s actions either. Each one is responsible for his or her reality and the more one tries to find intellectual labyrinths to get out of being responsible for their actions, the more complex it can become.

MYRNA: I think, if I may, I don’t know that it’s so much a denial as it is an unawareness, so for example, Mark’s explanation a few minutes ago of imagine you’re the only one and everybody else is a hologram…

DAVID: Star Trek, yeah.

MYRNA: If everybody is introduced to that concept, to understand that it’s all about “me” right now, everything’s just all about what I created…. I think that’s huge.

KRIS: It is indeed, and that is the entire point, is that you learn to be accountable for your own experiences. The more you want to find another to be responsible for your actions, the more they will show up.

DAVID: So I’m trying to merge that idea with back in June or July we talked about the person committing a purposeful act against you — the bazooka story, you recall? Back in June or July of 2007? — So I’m trying to mesh those two thoughts into one.

KRIS: Either way you cut the story or the cheese, it is still YOUR story, your drama. So you would have extrapolated meaningfulness even in the eye of an apparent disaster that would have appeared as the act of another. Either way, it is still your creation. All events, all circumstances, all conditions in your life are yours, and your responsibility alone.

DAVID: Great. That sounds extremely empowering.

KRIS: That is why it is as it is.

DAVID: So can you synthesize the two? Today’s conversation versus the people walking around purposely hurting each other? Those two ideas…

KRIS: That may require more time than you have in this life! Suffice it to say that they are responsible for their actions; you are responsible for your actions. You are not responsible for any other actions but your own.

MYRNA: However, the fact that they exist in David’s vision at all means that there’s a meaning for David in terms of why you’ve placed them in your world. It’s all about why is that meaningful for you to have people in your line of vision hurting others. And forget about them; it’s not about them at all. You’ve placed them there and I think the issue here is for you to consider what’s the meaning there. I’m not saying that we need to talk about that but they’re there because you’ve placed them there.

DAVID: The Star Trek hologram… I understand.

KRIS: It is indeed a result of your programming, exactly as is the holodeck program. It has to be input.

DAVID: Specifically, deliberately programmed it?

KRIS: Indeed. So you would have engaged that kind of a drama. It is perhaps possible that a portion of your being still feels the need to be vindicated as a victim. “THEY did something and it affected ME.”

DAVID: Right…. right.

KRIS: So as a result you were victimized by the actions of others and until that programming is neutralized, you may continue to experience some such actions. All in all, simply know that everything that goes on in your life is the result of what you hold and concentrate. Your programs, your beliefs… that gives you an incredible advantage into being self-empowered because if no one else is responsible for what befalls you, then there is nothing to befall you. There is only what you create.

DAVID: Yep, exactly.

JOHN: And you love yourself, so why would you create anything that isn’t loving and based on love?

MYRNA: May I uh…?

KRIS: Indeed.

MYRNA: May I confirm something?

KRIS: You may may!

(Chuckling)

MYRNA: John has… I haven’t been listening to the radio shows, but John has suggested that you have been talking about being-ness and intention.

KRIS: Have we now?!

(Laughter)

MYRNA: You have. So, here’s the thing: rather than trying to find out the meaningfulness of something, because sometimes my head spins trying to do that… I don’t really need to do that! Back to the feelings: when I’m in a place of discomfort, the easy thing is to go into “Okay, my being-ness right now is in discomfort, so what do I choose?” Have I got that right?

KRIS: You may have that correct. Please continue.

MYRNA: (Pause then chuckling sheepishly) I didn’t think there was anything more!

(Group laughter)

I’m looking for ease, and that’s what I want, and trying to extrapolate a meaningfulness sometimes, as beneficial as it can be, I find sometimes I just want ease.

KRIS: And there are many occasions that that meaningfulness may be elusive.

MYRNA: Many. In fact, mostly… but yeah, correct.

KRIS: Indeed. So it is not an obligatory pursuit to discover the meaningfulness of anything and everything that goes on in your life. In other instances it may simply reveal itself to you and in others it may not because it does not necessarily follow the dictates of your own logical, performative contradictions. So in such cases then seek to draw to you that which gives you pleasure. Meaningfulness may reveal itself in spite of your best attempts to find out why meaningfulness is not revealing itself!

(Group chuckling)

MYRNA: And pleasure can simply be… this is my being-ness right now… and I choose this.

KRIS: Indeed. Now, if you make such choice, will you follow the path that reveals itself to you?

MYRNA: Well, I’m noticing lately when I choose a different probability than one I find myself in right now, it seems to be so.

KRIS: Then indeed, by all means follow that pleasure.

MYRNA: I have to tell you, Kris, it feels far too simple!

(Laughter)

KRIS: We cannot comment on this for fear of our own nonliving lives!

MYRNA: And it’s fun! I cannot believe it can be that simple. Simply say, “I’m choosing THAT probability.”

KRIS: Many people are wont to wait for the other shoe to drop in those instances, forever waiting for a shoe that does not exist.

MYRNA: Yeah, it’s quite extraordinary.

KRIS: Once you get the knack, as it were, once it is grokked, then it can be that simple and you have in many respects, worked for many years to get to that perspective. Because for many years, you waited for the other shoe to drop and there never was another shoe, because you see the giant is one-legged!

MYRNA: Extraordinary.

KRIS: Indeed! As it is, for most giants have two legs!

(Laughter)

KRIS: Now what is the time?

MARK: 9:03.

KRIS: Indeed, we will leave you to your wonderful ponderings, wonderful mysteries and best of all to the joys and pleasures that drive you.

MYRNA: One question please.

KRIS: Indeed.

MYRNA: What does the word “Om” actually mean? I know the mantras that I say…

KRIS: There are many definitions offered to this. From the Orodin point of view, OM is an encapsulation of that primordial soundlet from which your physical dimension took birth, at least as your human ears can interpret the sound. In your human syntax, it sounds very short indeed, but from the Orodin point of view, it is an endless sound. It had no beginning and no end. It did not even have an alpha and an omega and it still exists today, regardless of how many cycles that have been involved. That is our interpretation. And with that we again we leave you to ponder the mysteries of who and what you are.

ALL: Thank you, Kris.

[Session ends at 9:05 PM]

S.O.Y. Essence

January 26, 2008

Kris Chronicles – S.O.Y. Essence
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Theresa Smart
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on January 26, 2008
Roll Call: In Toronto: Serge (Joseph), Mark (Philip),Claire, Adam and eleven youths.

SERGE: We were watching Stargate SG1 last night where they meet what they call the Tok’ra for the first time, they’re good Goa’ulds, and I thought, “Oh my God, can I relate to the way they go in and out of it.”

[MARK'S NOTES: Serge is referring to his channeling abilities and makes a comparison with the Tok'ra and Goa'ulds who are humans hosts that carry a symbiant who also has a personality. When the symbiant personality speaks, the eyes glow and the host's personality is takes a back seat, so to speak.]

MALE: With no glowing eyes.

SERGE: Yeah, except that. I haven’t perfected that yet. [Laughter]

KRIS: Now we want to express our gratitude and our thanks for your thoughtful consideration, and we trust that you are all comfortable, both in this room and with yourselves. You have had the opportunity to share in the presentation of at least two very nice modalities or resources in assisting you to have at least a little more awareness into the nature of your behaviors, the nature of who and what you are. And we trust that you will take advantage of these two tools and many others that exist, to enhance the individuality that you are in the process of unfolding or developing. Do keep in mind that you are not static beings – that what you do today is the way you will do what you do forever more. If that were the case, your entire human race would be in a pickle indeed.

Thus there is a very wide range of potentials and possibilities available to each of you. You are not fated or destined to any one thing in particular excepting perhaps being who you are. And that is a very vast subject matter, because you may think you are this or that only to discover that you are more than this or that, you could also be the other thing. The point is that you take to heart that you are always more than the sum of all of your parts.

You know, for instance, that this is your nose, correct? It is not who you are, it is not YOU. It is your nose, your lip, your ear, your body. But you are something different than all of these parts, correct? You know that at one point you were an infant filling up one diaper after the other and gladly so someone has to pay for making you eat that baby food now. But you are not that infant any more, but the infant is still within you, correct? In so many ways, there is still a part of you that can relate and will remember to one degree or another that you were an infant, and it could even be said that the person you are in the process of becoming in ten or twenty or more years, exists somewhere as a potential within you. Would you agree?

How does that potential individual actually come about being, over and above simply allowing nature to follow its course and let you grow into, because you know that you have an incredible amount of desires, intentions, dreams and visions for yourself and the world you live in, and in many ways you would like to see some of these visions and dreams become real, now would you not? There are many ways that you can do this of course. Your educational system is filled with methods by which you can become either a therapist or this or that.

[Someone coughing] Would you care for some water?

All of this comes down to one thing, that you have within you the potential to change who you are and become who you want to be. That is also called ‘conscious creation’, ‘reality creation’ and many other names. It has to do with the seeds of potential that exist within your mind – the seeds of things to be. Does that make sense?

Now you know that with a plant you need to make certain that it has sufficient sunlight, good soil, and water. Without these things the plant will not flourish. It will not grow and it will not bear any fruits or seeds. And in many ways, though you are not plants, you also know that you need to nurture yourselves, give yourself sufficient space, sufficient resources in order to blossom into your dream and vision of yourself. For instance, if you desire to become a concert pianist, do you play video games all the time, hoping that just because you had the idea to be a concert pianist that you need not do anything else? Would that make sense?

You have knowledge that there are many things that you can do and apply in order to reach your goals. And some goals are more demanding in order to manifest them, such as the example of becoming a concert pianist. You need to take piano lessons. You need to understand the basics of music and composition. You need a great deal of discipline and many other factors. The same goes with many other professions. You need to take action and that is the key. Otherwise your dreams become little more than that, dreams or fantasies about what you could be or what you could have been. Does that also make sense?

Thus taking action is an incredibly important key. In fact it is the single most important factor – to act upon what drives you, to act upon what motivates you, to act upon what you love. Without the steps towards that action it remains somewhat etheric, somewhat nebulous, unclear in your mind. And it may even develop issues of angers and resentments that you were unable to fulfill your dreams.

So we encourage you to follow those dreams, those ideas that you have and to, in many ways, do what is necessary for you to do to accomplish those goals. And even to go beyond simply striving for your goal, but to begin living now – begin living as if you are already enjoying the outcome of your dreams and visions. The goal itself, any goal that you set, is a stepping-stone to experiencing living the outcome. Do you follow that? The goal may be to have a nice shiny car. But what do you do with that car? You drive it, you enjoy the car, you sit behind the wheel and you are in command of your vehicle. You speed along the highway when the cops are not looking, you roll down the window, you feel the wind in your hair and on your face. If it is a roll-down top then you feel the wind even more. Begin to live that experience, which is an additional factor in fueling your reality towards that experience. Does that make sense to you?

If you wish to become a famous singer, the same applies. You take voice lessons. You do what is necessary to begin the fulfillment of your dream. But you can go beyond that and feel the elation that comes with being on stage, singing in front of huge crowds, getting applauded not only for your talents but for the way you handle your talent. And that your singing is not meant simply to show what a good voice you have, but to uplift the hearts of your audience – to give them a part of your experience, a part of yourself. And that will fuel you towards that destination even more so than simply concentrating upon a goal. Does that also make sense to you?

Do any of you have dreams that you want to see become reality, not simply something you entertain in your mind, but actually make it happen? What would one of your dreams be?

FEMALE: I want to be an actress and be in films.

KRIS: And what are you doing to get there now?

FEMALE: Nothing. [Laughter]

KRIS: That is very good acting! [Laughter] What do you think you could do as a first step towards that?

FEMALE: Join an agency and have them direct me to acting coaches.

KRIS: And then.

FEMALE: And then go on auditions.

KRIS: And then.

FEMALE: And then get a part.

KRIS: Indeed. And when do you anticipate taking the first step in that direction?

FEMALE: In a week.

KRIS: You are the witnesses here [laughter]. What could be holding you back?

FEMALE: Fear of rejection?

KRIS: Indeed. And what kind of tools could you use to overcome that fear, to know that even though you might be rejected for one part or another, there are many parts that you can play? You discovered how to use EFT, correct?

FEMALE: Yes.

KRIS: And you can use that as a means to diffuse the energy towards your fear and take that energy of the fear and use it as fuel.

FEMALE: Wow.

KRIS: Would that not spark your fire?

FEMALE: Completely.

KRIS: Now you said in one week you will take a step?

FEMALE: Um hum.

KRIS: What would that step be?

FEMALE: Going to my appointment at the agency.

KRIS: Indeed. And you will act the part as if you already have an engagement with that agency. Does that make sense? You can envision yourself being received, accepted by the agency.

FEMALE: Ahhhhh!

KRIS: Feel that part already happening now, always envision yourself ten steps ahead of the game, as if you have already gotten there. Now you are looking to the next step, and the one after. And live that part. That is what an actual actress does, is it not?

FEMALE: Um hum.

KRIS: These are wonderful tools that you can use. And use it to launch yourself in the destination of your dreams. In other words, go out there and kick some royal behind [laughter]. The best one to kick is your own. Does that make sense to you?

FEMALE: Makes a lot of sense. Thank you.

KRIS: Indeed. What about you?

MALE: I want to go into theater.

KRIS: And what would you like to do?

MALE: Either acting or directing.

KRIS: Whether it is acting or directing, might we suggest that you need to be a little more forceful. Do you know what we mean?

MALE: Yes.

KRIS: Everyone else here knows. So if you were to repeat that but with more emphasis, with more oomph, what would it sound like?

MALE: [quietly] I WANT to go into acting or directing?

KRIS: You are asking it, not telling me. Tell everyone here.

MALE: I WILL go into acting or directing.

KRIS: Indeed.

FEMALE: AND directing.

MALE: I don’t know if I’ll do both.

OTHER MALE: You can.

MALE: I can.

KRIS: And if you can add more strength into your voice, not that it comes from here, but from the heart, what would that sound like?

MALE: I WILL go into acting or directing. [Stated louder this time]

KRIS: Indeed. As everyone has noticed, there is a difference in your voice. As you said that, there were also changes in the skin tone and your shoulders straightened up. You felt that physically. We will share with you one small other tool. Put yourself five years into the future. You are already landing some nice parts, developing your acting career. What does that feel like?

MALE: Feels really good! [Laughter]

KRIS: Indeed. How does it feel in your body? What does that actor five years from now…, how does he sit? How does he hold his back? How does he hold his head?

MALE: More… [Sits up straight holding his head up high.]

KRIS: Does he feel that his accomplishments and achievements are now ready to launch him into the next stage of his career? How does that feel?

MALE: Really good.

KRIS: Indeed. And if he had to be enthusiastic about that, how would that be expressed?

MALE: A dance of joy. [Laughter]

KRIS: Indeed. Now you do not have to do the dance of joy, but that you know what it feels like. You have a great deal of strength but you are also reluctant to tap into it, as if afraid to draw that power. Put aside that reluctance. Begin to enjoy that power. It will not consume you but it will lift you to where you want to go. You feel it here, but you want to keep it there while it needs to be everywhere inside of you. It needs to scream through your pores that this is what you want. Correct?

If a mouse wants to take the cheese from the lion the mouse does not go [whispering] “Mr. Lion may I have my cheese?” [Laughter]. [Loudly now] The mouse roars much LOUDER than the lion so that the lion has to pay attention and gives the mouse the cheese freely! So be a LOUD mouse! Does that make sense?

MALE: Yes.

KRIS: Indeed. Anyone else have something to share?

FEMALE: Um.

KRIS: You want to tease your hair into the future? [Laughter]

FEMALE: It’s a thing I do. Anyways thank you. I feel this, okay basically I hate living in Toronto, but it’s not that I hate Toronto it’s just that I hate being here all the time. Like I have plans to, like travel and so on. But I just feel like I got really negative and now it’s kind of taken over me and it’s kind of become against my part of my Essence but now I don’t like it. And now I’m trying to find ways to be more positive. Like, I could hate living in Toronto but it would just make living here even worse, so I’m trying to, like, make the best of it – that situation.

KRIS: May we suggest an alternative approach. Indeed – we always ask permission. Now, you have expressed that you hate living in Toronto.

FEMALE: I can handle it in small doses but like all at once is like….

KRIS: Might it be that you feel some resentment for being here, in Toronto?

FEMALE: [whispering] Yes!

KRIS: And if you look at the emotional implications of that perspective, it is different, is it not?

FEMALE: I guess.

KRIS: Because you might also find that, even though there is a slight possibility that there are some parts of yourself that enjoy living in Toronto, that it is possible that you have plans to be elsewhere – that you want certain freedoms that, right now, are not apparently within your grasp. So that puts a different kind of energy into the wash, correct?

FEMALE: Yeah.

KRIS: And if you take the few moments necessary to feel out the two different feels and see which one gives you more empowerment, which one would you choose?

FEMALE: The positive side?

KRIS: Indeed. And so thus we suggest to you to look at that which gives you empowerment, as opposed to that which seems to disempower you, because both are the same energy. What makes the difference is your mind-set and beliefs you have along each line to choose the areas of the beliefs that are empowering to you, and you might find that your situation is much better than you thought. And remember that you always get what you concentrate upon. There is no other rule. That means two things – whatever you get is what you have concentrated upon, and what you concentrate upon brings more of that to you. So if you no longer want more of the same, more of what you do not want, begin to shift your energies to what you want. Does that make sense?

FEMALE: Yes.

KRIS: It is, in so many ways, fairly logical but it deals with illogical emotions and the power behind them. So fix your mind on what you do want and begin to look out for events, conditions and circumstances that reflect your new concentration. They will come, especially when you anticipate them.

FEMALE: Okay.

KRIS: Indeed.

FEMALE: Thank you.

KRIS: Anyone else would like to share? What about yourself?

MALE: Um. The thing that I want is very personal and I’m just not really sure how appropriate it is to share in the group.

MALE: It is up to you. It is either that everyone can block their ears, or if it is concerning the issue you spoke to our friend Joseph here…

MALE: Yeah.

KRIS: Indeed then, we will also offer to you that you are of two minds. One is, like your friend here. That you concentrate on what you do not want.

MALE: Which I’ve become, like Brianna, totally obsessed with it.

KRIS: Indeed. But you can shift that. You can begin to diffuse the energy, the investment you have in concentrating on what you do not want in your life and direct your energies towards those situations, events, circumstances and people that you WANT in your life.

MALE: What if that makes us split up? How do you [muffled words] [laughter]

KRIS: Now, anything you do will not change another individual. It will change you. The other, anyone in your lives, are entirely free to flow along with you, or migrate towards those that hold the same sets of values and ideas as they hold, if they do not want yours or to share with yours. And, as happens in all human life, you draw to you those that also are of a similar mind. You draw to you those birds that want to share their feathers with you. Does that make sense?

The important point is that life is about you. Life is about you. Life is about you, and life is about you and you, and each of you. Life is not about the world. The world is a reflection of all of what you are. So direct your thoughts to that which you want, and it will begin to manifest. And if you keep getting more of what you do not want, then life is reflecting back to you what you do not want – what you concentrate on, not want. If you look at many individuals, say, who are looking for a mate or partner, they may have extremely long lists of what they do not want in that person.

MALE: I know. I hate that.

KRIS: They do not want this. They do not want that. They do not want that. And, interestingly enough, they keep getting that in their lives. Now if they were to concentrate on what they want, then they become what they want and they draw to them what matches. It is not that you will create a Bobbsie twin, but you will definitely invite into your life those individuals that are of a similar mind, similar intent, with enough differentiation to make this a wonderful salad. [Laughter] Because, of course, if all you have is lettuce in your salad, it is rather bland. But when you have croutons and dressing and other wonderful ingredients, then you can say it is truly an hors d’oeuvre. [Laughter] So what kind of salad do you want in your life?

PARTICIPANT: Greek. [Laughter]

KRIS: Life is meant for you to have fun. Once you understand certain fundamentals, then you can be the most creative individuals around. But it requires one thing – action. It requires that you take the steps necessary to reach out, grab your dream and eat it, sleep it, think it, have it for breakfast, lunch and supper. Become that dream. No one else can make it happen for you. You might have many opportunities presented to you but you still have to take the dream, correct? Now what is the time?

MARK: Four twenty.

KRIS: Indeed then. We believe that we have overstretched our visiting hours. Thus we thank you again for the opportunity to share with your lovely selves. And keep in mind you only get what you concentrate upon. And we return Joseph to you.

MARK: Thank you.

GROUP: Thank you.

[End of audio]

Kris Radio: Inquiring Minds Want to Know

January 24, 2008

Kris Chronicles – Inquiring Minds Want to Know
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Lisa Q. Pratt (Lauromar)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on January 24, 2008

MARK: Good evening and welcome to Kris radio, here on thatradio.com. My name is Mark Bukator and I am co-hosting tonight with…

JOHN: You’re co-hosting with me, Mark, and I always like your introduction, it’s so energetic!

MARK: (Chuckling) I try.

JOHN: Good evening! (Mimicking Mark) Yes, we’re here back with Kris radio on a Thursday night in Toronto. Of course that doesn’t matter to all you folks out there in thatradio land does it? And we have our dear friend and co-host, Serge.

SERGE: Thank you, I am here with everyone else on thatradio.com for our Kris radio show.

MATT: And, I believe in Arizona we’ve got our affiliates, Matt and Nicole.

SERGE: Our Arizona…

NICOLE: Hello! Hello! Hello! We are here!

SERGE: …our correspondents.

MATT: (Chuckling) our correspondents from the field.

MATT: How’s the weather?

MARK: Not too bad.

MATT: How’s the weather up there in Canada?

SERGE: Cold.

JOHN: It’s cold but it’s not, you know, we’ve only got a skiff of snow.

MATT: Ah, well we’ve been, we’ve been cleaning our carpets all day today because we have guests coming in the near future.

(Laughter)

MATT: And, so we’ve got nowhere to sit, so were gonna come to you live tonight from our hot tub in the backyard.

MARK: Oh-ho-ho… I hate you! (Laughing)

(Nicole giggling)

JOHN: No, really!?

SERGE: Hugh…

NICOLE: It is wonderful!

JOHN: Are you kidding!?

SERGE: Hugh, shut the radio down! (Laughing)

NICOLE: I think we’re gonna make this a ritual!

MARK: It’s the hot tub party.

JOHN: Could you splash some water so we can hear it?

(Sounds of splashing water)

MARK: Oh my God it’s…

SERGE: Oh, they’re not kidding!

MARK: It’s the official Kris hot tub party.

(More laughter)

MATT: And you will not hear any sirens, I promise!

MARK: Now…

SERGE: We’ll do that. We’ll take care of that here!

MARK: …so actually, I’m glad you brought this up because in March, March 8th and 9th, 2008 we are having a Kris workshop-retreat right down there in that hot tub!

SERGE: Or around it at least.

MARK: Around it at least. But, if… I wanted to bring this up because the workshop is literally just five weeks away, and people, if you haven’t booked, you really should, start thinking about that real soon because March is obviously spring break and flights are going to be booked up real fast.

SERGE: And pricing.

MARK: I’ve been watching the newspapers here in Toronto and I have been seeing seat sales but you need to be paying attention now, so I would…

NICOLE: Absolutely. I saw one on Frontier Airlines for those of you that are coming from Denver, I know that Alan is in Denver, there may be some others as well but it is $69…

SERGE: Holy moly.

NICOLE: …one way, so $140 roundtrip ticket. There are all kinds of sales going on right now and you definitely, definitely wanna get on and book your ticket and get here. You guys, this place is so fabulous, I mean it is absolutely a resort. It is just unbelievable!

SERGE: Well actually it no longer need be unbelievable because people can now go to our home page, krischronicles.com with a K, and right there in the link to the workshop there’s a link that takes…

MARK: Yeah, right under the right, actually Serge, if you wanna click that first tab, it’s on our home page and it says “check this out, click here to see where the Arizona workshop retreat is being held” and that will take you to Matt’s, Matt and Nicole’s page where you have all kinds of wonderful pictures…

SERGE: Yeah, it’s on myspace, I think, huh?

MATT: Yeah we, we’re actually renting our property out for the Super Bowl. A bunch of people from New York that are planning all these events are coming down and renting our house, so we took all these pictures and put them on to myspace, and we thought you know, for those of you who are on the edge of saying I wanna go, I wanna go, I wanna go, and you wanna know where you’re staying, you can go to myspace.com\arizonavacations and check it out. There’s a picture of the hot tub! We’re not gonna be in it, but!

(Laughter)

MARK: Use your imagination.

NICOLE: Just imagine yourself sitting in it because I would imagine we’re gonna have so many wonderful, wonderful talks. The one thing that’s so great that I found when I went to Toronto and was part of the Lotus Mind workshop, was not only of course that the workshop was absolutely fabulous, and being able to spend that weekend with everybody and with Kris, but also the conversations that happened in-between the sessions…

MARK: I agree.

NICOLE: …and the friendships that were made. And I know that everybody is looking for somebody that is like-minded, and being able to have friends and people that you can hang out with that are like you, that wanna have wonderful, deep conversations that mean things, not talk about the weather, you are surrounded about, you’re surrounded with a group of friends, that people, that all care and are interested in the same things that you are, so we sure hope that, that you guys take advantage of this and come to Arizona. I believe that, actually I know that it will be a wonderful, wonderful time and very memorable.

MARK: I, I absolutely have to agree with you there. The sharing of experiences and the stories and the personal experiences from these workshops, and the people that come and that get together going for dinner and so on and drinks or sitting in the sun or on the patio or whatever, these are such fun times. And it’s, and that’s one…

MATT: You know…

MARK: Sorry, go ahead, Matt.

MATT: Oh I’m sorry, I said it’s just gonna, it’s gonna be so nice to be able to put a face with the Skype names.

MARK: I agree.

MATT: You know you see all these little Skype names, but they don’t have faces. Sometimes they have smileys and stuff like that, emoticons, but it’d be nice to put faces with…

SERGE: Then you can really say “my you look so different from your picture on the Skype!”

(Chuckling)

MATT: Exactly!

NICOLE: Exactly!

MARK: …and the other thing I wanted to bring up is the fact that unlike let’s say, the Lotus Mind where we held it in a hotel, we’re having it at Matt and Nicole’s property and everybody will be staying on the property, and a beautiful piece of property with lots of accommodations, we could fit like 30 people, 30-40 people, comfortably, Matt and Nicole have arranged for all the meals and even the alcohol, not that we’re pushing anybody to drink heavily, (chuckling) but this is all included in the one price, whereas in the Lotus Mind, people paid to go to the workshop and then had to pay for all their meals themselves and the hotel room themselves, and this one fee covers everything but the flight and…

NICOLE: Oh my gosh! Absolutely! And you know the thing is, is that you can come for the workshop, you can come a couple days prior, you can stay a couple days late, you can actually turn it into a vacation. And you know, obviously everybody knows that Arizona is a wonderful vacation spot and the property, you know Marlene has a house, it’s a casita, then we have the main house and we have another guest house and it’s just, it’s really going to be a wonderful way to spend some time together.

MARK: Definitely. Ah, Serge, maybe you can give out the link to that workshop page?

SERGE: Well it’s right off our Krischronicles.com page, the home page…

MARK: Or you could…

SERGE: …and the workshop page itself is Krischronicles.com\Arizona-2008. That should take them there?

MARK: Yup!

SERGE: And again, accessible right from the front page, the home page, and see what the details are, and all the fun that you can have, and I’m sure everyone can handle all the fun!

MARK: I’m excited, I can’t wait.

SERGE: Especially if you live in a colder clime. (Chuckling) Thaw your bones out. Go into the Arizona hot tub.

MATT: We finally get Serge out.

MARK: So actually…

NICOLE: By the way, Serge…

SERGE: Yes.

NICOLE: …today we had, we had some cardinals. Whenever there’s a cardinal around we think of Serge and Mark and…

(Serge and Mark chuckling)

NICOLE: …cause that’s like a representation. And it was so cool today, we had a, yeah, a coincidence as Kris talks about many times, and it was just, it was so beautiful, they had so many birds, and the cardinals, and the female and the male cardinals and all kinds of stuff and the rabbits and the quail and Oh!

SERGE: You know what that means?

NICOLE: Alright.

SERGE: Lots of little Cardinals, little rabbits and little quails.

(Laughter)

MATT: And little Skypies.

MARK: So well we, just prior to coming to the radio show, we went for dinner as we usually do, and we were amongst ourselves recapping last week and had some little bits of discussions ourselves, and John and I started talking about beliefs. And, as we’ve always been under the understanding that if you really believe something it becomes part of your reality, but we had to think twice about this, when you especially watch shows like “American Idol”, there’s some people out there that really truly believe that they are the greatest singers and they can’t sing. So we got on this little topic here of beliefs and just why some of them are, do exist and some of them don’t, even when you truly do put the energy into them. So were hoping that Kris… well while we were talking about that, Kris sort of popped a title into Serge… Well actually, all day.

SERGE: Yeah, it’s been around all day, so we’ll find out what it is.

MARK: But we have a title…

SERGE: Yup!

MARK: … for tonight’s and that’s “Inquiring Minds Want To Know.”

JOHN: It’s so true.

(Mark’s chuckling)

SERGE: Unless of course you’re not an inquiring mind. (Chuckling)

JOHN: I am an inquiring mind, I am a… yes, definitely, I do want to know. So last week we talked about the science of consciousness which is constructing our beliefs like architects.

MARK: Yup, belief architects and we talked about DNA, physical DNA as well as that non-physical Essence DNA. The physical DNA being sort of the dip switches to toggle the programs that Essence runs in this belief structure of this physical reality? And here comes Kris.

KRIS: Indeed we thank you for your consideration, hot tubs and all, and we trust that you are comfortable wherever you are tubbing. Indeed the information that can be extrapolated from an enhanced study of beliefs can lead to some fascinating observations and conclusions as it were, about the very nature of your existence, the very nature of your world and your expression within it.

We do fully comprehend that when you start questioning the nature of that reality that you call yours, there is often an, even high degree of hesitation or reluctance to ask questions that are too deep in nature because it would literally assist in the unraveling of everything you think you know about your world and there can be nothing as disconcerting as suddenly realizing that the world, and life, and your experience of it is not what you thought it was. Does that make some sense to you?

JOHN: Yes it does!

MARK: Oh yes.

KRIS: Thus, questions that individuals ask and the individuals asking the questions usually tread very softly in that domain, as if they are walking on proverbial eggshells lest they crack too many all once. Do you follow?

(John confirms)

MARK: Indeed.

KRIS: And yet, that is when the individual awakens to a wider awareness, by asking questions. Children ask questions do they not? “Mommy, why is the sky blue? Why is your hair blue?”

(Laughter)

KRIS: And so on and so forth. Inquiring minds have no age limits, nor expiration dates. Inquiring minds stir the pot of complacency. And as you well know, usually by the time your children go between grade 2 and 3, a great deal of their impetus for discovery, for inquiry, for questioning, for discovery, usually gets squashed, controlled. Do you understand?

MARK: Yes.

(John confirms)

KRIS: Because it is considered that by that time, they should be fully indoctrinated into the official line of consciousness. And very often that is where a great amount of your own doubts concerning your self-worth and your validity also take a dive, a nose dive that is. Do you follow?

MARK: Absolutely.

(John confirms)

KRIS: It is those rare individuals who do not swallow the hook of the official lines of reality, that eventually develop the most inquiring and inquisitive of minds where they ask questions and do not settle for the status quo, do not settle for the pat answers. And once you all begin to reanimate your own inquisitive minds, you begin to awaken to that widened awareness, and we must make a distinction.

There are many individuals who believe that they are in exactly that situation, that they are widening their awareness, they are awakening their inquisitiveness when they begin to study or read about the kinds of information that we, or others deliver. But if that material is not utilized to evoke within you a yet greater inquisitive nature, but that instead the material is utilized to keep suppressing your inquisitiveness, that these are the answers and that is all there is to it, there is nothing more, no more information beyond that material, then where is your inquisitiveness? Or is that your parroting? Do you follow?

(John confirms)

MARK: Yes.

KRIS: These types of conversations, discussions and materials, are meant to urge you, to prod you into awakening that curious nature of yours. Thus, by beginning to question the very foundational knowledge that you accept as the facts of life, the facts of reality, can be peeled back layer by layer. And as your reality begins to unravel at that level, it begins to be re-created, but in another way, with an understanding that it is as a result of your inquisitiveness that you see reality for what it is. And what would that be, Sohars?

JOHN: That I see reality as a wonderful fascinating mystery that urges my inquisitiveness ever onward.

KRIS: Very good save.

(Laughter)

KRIS: You would be an excellent bookie. For all intents and purposes, in understanding the true nature of reality as a feedback mechanism, then you can comprehend that what you experience as reality is the product of your being. And it is still possible to marvel at its miraculous nature. If you consider the great master Michelangelo and his artworks. Even though his genius was involved, it is not as if he labored slavishly in its production, but became the instrument through which that artwork was expressed as an extension of his own energies. Does that make sense to you?

JOHN: Yes.

KRIS: And in many similar ways, the reality that you experience is, by the same token, an extension and expression of your own energies, of your presence, of your being. When you begin to uncover how that is produced, it may even be more exciting. But suffice it to know that it is produced effortlessly, especially when it is created by default. But when it is deliberately engaged, then you have an entirely different ball of wax, one that you shape, one that you form, through the exquisite tools of your beliefs. Does that make sense?

JOHN: Yes it does!

MARK: Indeed.

KRIS: Thus the more you question the facts or so-called facts of existence, facts of life, the more you can surprise yourself. And by that we mean that you have the ability to fully comprehend the nature of your creations.

JOHN: Now that’s an interesting statement!

KRIS: Indeed, and it is a very profound one if you begin to understand its implications. Thus you spoke earlier at the cafeteria about beliefs, correct?

JOHN: Yes.

(Pause)

KRIS: That would be your cue to take that conversation up.

(Chuckling)

JOHN: Okay, right. Oh yes! You asked us to, to make a point of discussing the unexpressed DNA. Last week you said something fascinating, which was that, just as we’re multidimensional beings who are expressions of Essence, there’s only a tiny portion of Essence that can be expressed physically, there’s only a tiny portion of our DNA that can be expressed physically, which means that as Essence, we’ve got a huge amount of DNA that isn’t expressed in this focus or any focus.

KRIS: Indeed. Now some time back, in a rather heated discussion concerning what we coined as “Monkeylution”…

(Chuckling)

JOHN: Right.

KRIS: …we expressed some information. In that, the traditional views, the socially accepted views of evolution, what you commonly refer to as Darwinian evolution, Darwin’s theory of evolution, after all these years is still nothing more than a theory. And evidence is brought up to try and shore up and factualize the theory, correct?

(John confirms)

KRIS: And your scientists, paleontologists and other “ologists” of various species find little bits of bone and make conclusions, often hastily drawn up, that this may be the missing link, this may be one thing or another. Often such conclusions have to be withdrawn or altered because it is one thing to hold a theory and then try to factualize it. In other words, make the facts fit the theory, which in the long run does not necessarily work, correct?

MARK: Correct.

(John confirms)

KRIS: And then there is another exploration, and this one, we have expressed, is much closer to the truth, in that way. In that, you have in-species evolution. Does that make sense to you?

MARK: Yes.

KRIS: That species of birds for instance, can eventually alter their bodies and forms and functions to adapt to the necessities of survival within their environment. Do you follow and does that make sense to you?

MARK: Absolutely. So the bird is a bird is a bird, and it isn’t a fish.

KRIS: Indeed, nor is it a dinosaur. All forms of life in your world have DNA.

JOHN: That’s right.

KRIS: And as you have mentioned, some scientists wont to say that a great portion of your DNA is simply junk. Now an inquiring mind would want to ask “well, whose junk is it?”

(Laughter)

JOHN: Yes, exactly.

KRIS: Now however, part of that junk as it were, actually contains the codes, the DNA code for every other species on your planet.

JOHN: Oh! That’s interesting!

MARK: Sweet.

JOHN: Every other species.

KRIS: Indeed. So from one life form on your planet, were that life form taken to another reality or dimension altogether, all life forms could be extrapolated from its DNA.

JOHN: Oh!

KRIS: As well, a great deal of that unexpressed “junk” contains other codification that allows for the adaptative transformations within one species to adjust to its ever-changing geographical environment.

MARK: Sweet.

KRIS: Thus a species of bird may eventually have to adapt to its changing environment, say, from a tropical to a desert. So it would adapt its form over generations to be able to survive within that environment. Does that make sense to you?

JOHN: Yeah.

MARK: Yeah. It’s like when you buy a new computer, you always make sure the hard drive’s big enough and has space for new programs.

KRIS: In many respects. Just as your software receives periodic updates and upgrades so that it adapts to ever increasing demands.

MARK: Right.

KRIS: So that is part of what makes up the content of the “junk” in the DNA. It is, all in all, not so junky, as such.

MARK: They’re more like junkets than junks. (Chuckling)

KRIS: As to your other inquiry…

MARK: Yes, the beliefs on say, like, “American Idol”…

JOHN: Oh yes.

MARK: …where these people truly believe that they can sing.

JOHN: Seem to believe.

MARK: They, they believe it.

KRIS: Indeed, and that is quite to the point. They will clamor and rant that this is their belief whilst in truth it is not. It is held at the most superficial layers of the ego construction. It is indeed quite narcissistic.

MARK: Oh yeah.

KRIS: And they do know that they do not have the developed capabilities to perform the way they claim, it is simply an over-inflated image of themselves.

MARK: That makes sense.

KRIS: You have then, a situation, where subconsciously there is the full realization they do not have the talent per se, or that they have a very small amount of talent at that point in time, and would prefer that they be recognized for their claims than for their abilities.

MARK: What they really have is a vivid imagination.

JOHN: Not that that’s a bad thing though.

KRIS: There is always something to be said for that.

JOHN: So if I can just extrapolate that, Kris. It suggests to me that if our world, the world we experience is an out-picturing, a confirmation of our belief structures, then if what we believe is not represented in our world, then that could be seen as evidence of incongruence.

KRIS: Indeed and that is why such individuals become extremely belligerent.

MARK: Hmm, denial.

KRIS: When even a hint of a challenge is presented on that subject matter…

JOHN: Because they don’t…

KRIS: …and their overreaction is indeed quite…

JOHN: Vociferous.

KRIS: Indeed. It is like taking an elephant gun to shoot a mosquito.

JOHN: Yes, because they don’t want to have their house of cards come tumbling down.

KRIS: Correct.

JOHN: Yeah.

KRIS: This does not make them less of an individual.

JOHN: No.

KRIS: They could indeed take care of the incongruency and truly develop their talent, but first the capabilities have to be there. There are certain individuals whose voice box makes it that singing is certainly not to be a preferred career choice, though they could certainly become world-renowned opera singers in the shower. And certain kinds of talents are best developed under those conditions!

(Laughter)

KRIS: And then they have other talents that, by the same token have been neglected. Talents they could truly take to the bank, as it were.

MARK: Right.

KRIS: Such individuals might instead make great agents for those with the talents.

MARK: They sure know how to sell!

KRIS: Indeed. Does that make some sense?

MARK: Yes, it does, thank you. That really helps.

KRIS: Indeed!

MARK: Is there anything out there in Skype land?

KRIS: Indeed the…

MATT: Yeah, actually we have a couple of interesting questions, if that’s okay?

MARK: Yup!

MATT: All right, well the first one, I’ll read it to you word for word, it says “so who then is it that changes the condition of the environment that individuals must adapt to? Is it something like the collective consciousness? Then if it is something like the collective consciousness, then doesn’t that collective consciousness then continually reprogram the DNA?”

KRIS: Very good question (pause) and you have…

MATT: That’s cause Alan is very smart.

(Chuckling)

KRIS: Indeed. Now, as you and all others are aware, you also create your environment. Thus, that would stand to reason that the individuals are doing the environmental and geographical changes. One such reason for doing so is that in spite of the fact that your species prefers an environment that does not change. You also understand that the only way you survive and develop your own abilities and talents is to create change. So you are caught in an interesting conundrum: things do not change, stay static and more or less, have no challenges. Or create change, challenge and at the same time, expand on your own abilities and creativities. Does that make sense so far?

MARK: Yes.

(John confirms)

KRIS: Thus you, and all others involved in the process, work together towards the changes that are best suited for the collective. At that particular level, selfishness is not encountered. There is cooperativeness, everyone functions together, directs and pools their energies for everyone’s benefit. Does that make sense so far?

MARK: Yes.

(John confirms)

KRIS: And as you do so then, the environment, in its gradual transformations, triggers the necessary adaptive evolution within the genetic code of the very individuals in question. So it is a symbiotic relationship. Which one triggers the other first? It could be said that it is a simultaneous process. Because the change would first have to occur at that quantum level, at the layer of the individual’s own DNA. As we suggested it is the tool of transformation. Do you follow?

(Mark confirms)

JOHN: Oh yes.

KRIS: It goes hand in hand. Does that answer the inquiry?

MATT: Absolutely. And then the next question was “if all animal’s DNA is made up within our DNA, does that mean that we can clone a sheep using one of John’s whiskers?”

(Laughter)

KRIS: We refuse to answer that on the grounds…

(Laughter)
MATT: No, I’m just, I’m just teasing. The next question is, if we’re talking about, the topic is “Inquisitive Minds Want to Know”, and then we’re talking about change, which seems like the only way, what you’re saying is that the only way you can possibly change is to be inquisitive and to look at things in a different way or question the way that you’re looking at things now.

KRIS: Indeed, because you are thus, motivated through your perceptions and your beliefs. These govern your behavior. They are the programs that more or less automate behavior. It runs in the background, as it were. You pick and choose according to your lovely intent. And all you need do is be. And the changes that have occurred at the layer of your perceptions through your lovely beliefs set everything up in motion for you. You simply go along for the ride. How that ends up manifesting itself of course depends upon those very beliefs you pick and choose. Does that also make sense?

NICOLE: Absolutely.

JOHN: Yes, it does.

NICOLE: And is that why, is that why it’s important to converse with others because if our, if we are to just be, but also to understand different perceptions of others, you know it’s, it makes sense to converse with other people to see how they are creating, and then at that point we can get to choose how, if we wanna do things…

KRIS: May we offer a gentle point of view here?

MATT: Please!

KRIS: When you converse with others, indeed you can reflect upon their creations, which may or may not inspire you, or make you perspire…

(Laughter)

KRIS: …what is most interesting is, you may not notice until it is brought up, and so we are doing, but what is most fascinating is that when you converse with others, you are really not there to find out about their creations, you are conversing with others to find out about your creations. That is one method you utilize to reflect upon your own manifestations, not that of others. The creations of others may pique your curiosity at one layer, but the truth of the matter is that you are interested into how your creations are being perceived and used as the other’s feedback mechanism. Because other’s creations may interest you, but what is it that you are truly reflecting upon, but how it impacts you. Does that make sense?

NICOLE: Absolutely.

KRIS: So you converse with others to find out where you are in your journey in time and space. You are truly clever, whether in a hot tub or not.

(Chuckling)

MARK: Any other questions?

MATT: You know it’s interesting because I remember when we were, about a month and a half ago or two months ago on a radio show, we were talking about questions, and we had talked a little bit about, I think NLP, was like the meta-program, listening to or questioning the type of presuppositions that you have in your language because every… all language has presuppositions. And when you listen to not only what you say to other people, but what you say to yourself, if you question the presuppositions in your language, it will… it’s a great way to look at how you’re looking at things, and giving you an opportunity to look at things differently. So it’s kind of like, it connects to what you were talking about, just about six or seven weeks ago.

KRIS: Indeed. Now, what is the time?

MARK: Quarter to.

KRIS: Indeed. We will decide in a moment if there is a break to be. For now, we would like to suggest that by early April, we would like to engage the second phase of the CMI life enrichment presentations.

MARK: Indeed.

KRIS: Most specifically in the architecture of beliefs in a therapeutically-oriented course that would begin to open the doors to understanding personal belief construction and all of the influences and the actions that originate from the cultivation of the beliefs that you hold, geared towards assisting others in understanding their processes along those same lines. Again, in a therapeutic manner. This being a presentation towards one stage of what we suggested some short while back concerning certification in aspect therapist. Do you follow?

MARK: Yes.

JOHN: Wow.

KRIS: Because our intent with the CMI is to offer materials, information, instruction, in such a way that it not only enables the recipient of the information to change their world, but also towards the assisting of others and to use the same processes to change their world. So we are, in effect, dropping the gauntlet to that effect.

JOHN: That sounds great, Kris! I especially like the idea of becoming an aspect therapist.

KRIS: Indeed.

JOHN: Consider your gauntlet picked up.

KRIS: More details will follow but it will be slightly more intense than the previous CMI offering. Thus for those who have the intestinal fortitude to take up the challenge, you are most welcome to step forward and change your world.

JOHN: You’re not saying this is, isn’t for the faint of heart again are you?

KRIS: We cannot say.

JOHN: I remember the last time you said that and it took us weeks to get over that one.

(Chuckling)

JOHN: Yes, we’re learning to pay, to give good credit and credence to what… your, your little cautions.

MARK: How about we jump to a quick break?

KRIS: Indeed. Now you can.

MARK: Thank you.

(Musical interlude break)

MARK: Welcome back to Kris Radio, here on thatradio.com. My name is Mark Bukator and we’ve been chatting with Kris about the topic “Inquiring Minds Want To Know.” What a great chat!

JOHN: Yes, and inquiring minds DO apparently want to know. I’m still a little bit mind-buggered about the fact that I’ve got the DNA of every creature on the planet, in, running through my veins. Now that’s a…

MARK: I can actually see some of them.

(Laughter)

JOHN: That’s a fascinating thought.

SERGE: That’s okay, John, don’t worry, the doctor has a pill for that.

(More laughter)

JOHN: Yeah, well that’s a fascinating thought. You know, in a funny sort of way, you know, that suggests that there’s really the one life form here.

MARK: Right.

JOHN: Do you know what I mean?

MARK: Yeah. All That Is, the Orodin.

(Chuckling)

KRIS: Now we trust that you have been having fun.

MARK: Indeed. Not as much fun as being in the hot tub, mind you. (Chuckling)

KRIS: Now are there other inquiring minds that want to know something?

MARK: Matt, Nicole?

JOHN: I think they’re having a hot tub break.

MARK: (laughing) Probably went for the cocktails.

JOHN: But that, I, that gives me an opening here to ask one of my questions, if I may, Kris.

KRIS: Indeed.

JOHN: What you were describing earlier, kind of, it really appeals to me because it appeals to a quality of my personality which I think of as basically laziness, but it seems to me that what you’re saying, that all of the reality creation mechanisms that come into gear are all automatic and effortless and happen at the subconscious level, and our job at the conscious level, in other words, me, Johnny, here, sitting here, living my life, my job seems to be TO BE, and how hard is that, and also to experience things, relish them and to set intentions… well…

KRIS: At that particular level, yes. There is another layer of your lovely self that sets intentions at a much broader scale, an entirely different spectrum of intentionalities set, though it is not set in stone but rather launched. And that is done from the layer of Orodin or Essence as you call it, through various groupings of intent. You call them families of consciousness.

JOHN: Right.

KRIS: These are groupings of intent. Thus, individuals who wish to partake of a certain aspect of the spectrum of reality available will align themselves through those groupings of intent. And that sets the stage as it were, for an infinite number of possibilities within that spectrum. And others have a different intentionality, thus they will utilize another grouping of intent or family of consciousness to launch their adventures. Does that make sense to you?

JOHN: Yes it does, that’s very helpful. So that the intent that I have, here, as Johnny in the focal personality, while it’s infinite in scope, it’s within a certain parameter that is set at another layer of intent.

KRIS: Indeed. You would not for instance expect the great chef Paul Prudhomme to begin building your house…

JOHN: No.

KRIS: …you might find yourself living in a doughnut.

(Laughter)

MARK: D’oh!

KRIS: Nor would you expect, what is this fellow’s name, John Holmes?

MARK: Mike Holmes. [TV personality from show called Holmes on Homes.]

KRIS: Mike Holmes to begin whipping up a Baked Alaska…

JOHN: No, exactly.

KRIS: …it might have a few metal shavings. Thus even at that layer, you utilize what is available within the repertoire of your abilities. It does not say that Mike Holmes might not have interests in cuisine, the fellow must eat after all, but his specialty and interests and intent is home renovations. Does that make sense?

JOHN: Yes it does. And for me, the phrase that’s coming to my mind is “cascading layers of intent.” So that I’m sure, that even beyond the Essence level, there’s a level of intention that creates the playing field that Essences then proceed to explore.

KRIS: Correct. Your views of intent are quite nice but at the same time still restricted simply because you often make your experiences fit your syntax. In so many words, you make the facts fit your theories about life.

JOHN: Yeah.

KRIS: It does not say that this is an invalid purpose. On the contrary, that is your sandbox. The child playing with sand on the beach, his little pail and shovel magically being filled up with sand, turned around and emptied to make the child’s imaginary sandcastles, may set the groundwork for a genius in architecture or engineering. The possibilities all exist, it is up to you to develop them. That is your potential of consciousness. Do you follow?

JOHN: Yup, I hear you.

MATT: Absolutely.

KRIS: Any other inquiries?

MATT: Yeah, can you hear us?

MARK: Yes.

MATT: Of fabulous. Jason had a great question we wanted to get in before the end of the show. He says, “what is the fastest way of converting incongruencies of our self-image into manifestations?”

MARK: Take singing lessons. (Laughing)

KRIS: In that example, yes. So when you become aware of your incongruencies. Then work on bridging your beliefs. So that again, if you know that your singing abilities are poor but you claim to be the next singing star, then you might have to take lessons. It involves becoming aware of yourself, aware of your acquired beliefs as well as your truths about yourself. Does that make sense?

MATT: Which is why questions are so important.

KRIS: Indeed. What is the time?

MARK: Two minutes to.

KRIS: Indeed, perhaps other people in the studio have a question.

MARK: Anybody? (Pause) Nope.

KRIS: Indeed. Any other questions in Skype land?

MATT: We’re all Skyped out, it’s, that’s great.

KRIS: Indeed, do understand that when we ask for other individuals in the studio, we’re, not limit ourselves to Phillip and Sohars and Hugh.

FEMALE VOICE: Oh!

(Pause)

KRIS: Indeed then.

MARK: Okay.

KRIS: The ball is in your court.

MARK: Mine?

KRIS: Indeed.

MARK: Well, that’s the show really, our two minutes are up. (Chuckling)

KRIS: See how nicely that turned out.

MARK: Indeed!

KRIS: Then we thank you for your blessed inquisitive minds and keep cultivating them.

MARK: Thank you.

KRIS: And we…

MATT: Thanks Kris!

KRIS: Indeed!

NICOLE: Thank you!

MARK: Thanks, Matt and Nicole.

MATT: Oh you’re welcome.

MARK: And thanks here, to our studio audience. (Chuckling) Once again, if you have not checked into flights for that workshop, do so, and if you haven’t reserved your spot, please contact Marlene. You can do that at the bottom of the web page, for the workshop, and coming up next is “Spiritualism and the New Age” with Catherine MacDonald. Have a good night!

MATT: Goodnight everyone!

NICOLE: Goodnight!

JOHN: Goodnight!

(Session ends)

Prejudiced Perceptions

January 20, 2008

Kris Chronicles – Prejudiced Perceptions
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Ellen Gilbert (Kwaa’Ji)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on Sunday, January 20, 2008
Roll Call: Serge, Mark, Theresa, John, Ellen, Brian, Tom, Anya, Lisa, Jerry, and Nardine

(7:53 PM)

KRIS: Now then we trust that you are comfortable, warm, and we thank you for your consideration. We have on numerous occasions spoken about the incredible properties and qualities of your own creative powers and creative genius. Even when you manifest for yourselves any range of challenges, some of which may even take you to your wits’ end, even those apparent insurmountable challenges are on the order of creative genius.

Think for a moment of all the processes that you engage, that you bring on line to put into action. The very event or condition or circumstance or situation — be it whatever it is that you bring together — all of the factors that are an important component of your desired outcome, and if you do pay attention, you may notice that even when you do not think of an outcome, even when you concentrate merely on two thirds of the journey: your goal, you inevitably have to deal with the outcome of your production, your creation, which leads you to recognize just then how magnificent is the process that you launched, be it moments ago, hours, days, weeks, sometimes even years ago.

Observing yourself in action in this particular light, whether the outcome is a challenge or a pleasure, you eventually can recognize the magnificent process of manifesting that you have just kicked into high gear. Sometimes such processes may, again, take days or perhaps weeks and months but only you know exactly how to organize all of the components and the factors together so that your manifestation runs and manifests itself as smoothly as possible.

Now you may think to yourself that this old ghost might have gone dingo, especially if you are faced with your own intense challenges, where everything seems to fall apart, where everything you encounter, events, situations, circumstance, all seem to blow up in your face, as it were. One thing after another seems to go against your own best interest and still we would advocate that you have designed this event or situation or circumstance in such a way that you give yourselves the optimum amount of resistance and trouble. And even at that, such a creation, though in the eyes of some might appear to be extremely negative and counter-productive, is following the exact design that you have put into motion, everything running like clockwork.

And indeed, again, the image of a clockwork and all the mechanisms inside such a gizmo may be most appropriate. None of it, of course, specifically designed by an outside agency or force of any kind, but set into motion by your own self to meet your own challenge. The outcome of that is what you are after, and that too indicates a higher level of creativity than you might ever give yourself credit for. And we are not implying that in your most difficult challenges and even your darkest time, that you need to shout from the rooftops that you are a magnificent manifester, because that might again lead you into a completely different adventure.

Suffice it to say that you can recognize, easily, without hesitation of any kind, of any sort, that when things go smoothly in what you would consider a positive and happy manner, you are perhaps very quick to be jubilant about your situation and when events, circumstances and so on, are going in the opposite direction, you might be less than tempted to consider that this, too, is as creative a venture as any other venture that you would gladly claim credit for. Nonetheless, very similar processes, factors are engaged, are put together and are launched to bring you into a situation where you can indeed see very clearly that you have as much invested in such a situation as any other situation in which you whole-heartedly invest your energies.

And we mention this perhaps if only to bring to your attention that you are just as creative and adventurous one way or the other, though going the other way you might be prone to consider yourself in terms of extreme value judgments. And herein lies a powerful key to turn such situations around, to turn the tide, as it were. The usual tendency for most individuals — though most certainly none of you! — The usual tendency for the average individual would be then perhaps to rant and rave, to express anger, frustration, disappointment, put-downs and discounting and so on and so forth and even fighting the situation every inch of the way like the great titans of mythology fighting each other.

And as we suggested a possible key to turning the tide on such situations is to recognize not so much that you would ask why, why, why, why this is happening to you, but instead to pause the momentum of your direction, recognize just how much vested energies you are inputting in this situation, how much resistance you are also offering. And if you recognize then that this is a situation that you can turn around, then it can be as simple a task as the recognizing of the direction of your energy in that moment, knowing that in many respects this may be no different than any other situation in which you invest your energies, your creativity, your love, your joy, and at that moment reclaim those portions of your own energies with which you are fighting or opposing the flow of events, basically taking the air out of the balloon as it were.

Perhaps a few moments of reflection, recognizing that in many respects there is no difference from this situation to any other situation, whether the intended goal and outcome is construed as negative or positive in terms you are familiar with and if it does not meet your own criteria then you are not bereft of tools and resources. That in the very moment of recognizing this you can then turn it around since you are the only one who CAN do so and very quickly observe how the tide changes, the direction of your flow of energy is diverted towards something that you no longer hesitate investing your energies with. Does this make sense to you?

(Yes)

Perhaps you might un-mute. We would enjoy asking the others why they think we might be bringing this up.

MARK: Anyone?

NARDINE: Speaking from my own observation, I personally can relate, Kris, to what you are saying to a life circumstance, the direction of events unfolding and identify with what you’re suggesting or indicating: the awareness is in the moment. How to use it with my specific incident or situation I’m thinking of in my head and heart, I haven’t interpreted, but I can recognize the trust and the tools and the allowance that is necessary to address it and my instinct would be that all of us or many of us might have a situation that’s relevant to what you said.

KRIS: Indeed. We are appreciative of your observation. Anyone else care to share?

MARK: Well, we’ve embarked on a very creative new year and I think the first logical step is how to use our energies creatively to bring about healthy and happy circumstances as opposed to some of the greater challenges that we’ve created for ourselves in the past.

KRIS: Indeed. Of course all of you would have noticed that we have simply been talking about the Triple ‘A’, correct?

(Yes)

Anyone else care to share why we might be bringing this about?

THERESA: Well, one thing is that, now that you’ve mentioned the Triple ‘A’, is that for myself, I tend to use the Triple ‘A’ on the negative situations and not on the positive ones.

KRIS: Indeed, and it is also possible to utilize the Triple ‘A’ on what you would consider positive, constructive, uplifting situations to gain additional insights into your own creative processes. Consider the value judgments that you hold towards yourselves, any and all of you. And in some cases it may not necessarily be very pretty in that way and you are all lucky in other respects that we are not looking at anyone in particular! At the very same time, developing the ability to recognize that you utilize incredibly creative energies in the manifestations of all of your situations, can give you an incredible edge, truly an incredible edge.

We also present this because you are also creatures of incredible meaning. In fact, that is one of the things that you do so incredibly well as a species. You do not necessarily willy-nilly invent meanings for all sorts of situations, though you do seek your own private, personal meaning for your actions and that is where part of your own creative genius comes from. And indeed a great blockage in recognizing this for yourself is what we refer to from time to time as prejudiced perceptions which might all be based on value judgments, powerful beliefs that you have cultivated about yourselves with as much energy and enthusiasm as when you think about yourselves in positive, constructive ways as when you think about yourselves in other ways. This may even reflect into your own — we will also call it “prejudiced ethics” — concerning yourselves.

Consider, for instance, a knife. All on its own, the knife is truly not an ethical or even a moral issue of any kind. It is simply a knife. It can even help you get food for your survival if need be as easily as it can be utilized to take a life, to kill. But in and of itself, the knife is neither good nor bad in the way you might think of it. Does that make sense?

(Yes)

And though we would not consider any of you to be knives, we do understand that at times you do tend to use a knifelike attitude towards your lovely selves. There are people that are called “Cutters.” Do you understand the term?

BRIAN: Oh, yeah!

KRIS: Indeed. Does anyone not understand the term? (Pause) Then indeed. There are those who cut themselves up physically as a means of self-punishment. There are those who cut themselves up mentally or psychologically for one reason or another, and we only bring this into the discussion to emphasize that the tendency towards such actions may be deeply ingrained psychologically, but it can also be defused. Not only such an action or a label, but to consider yourself as neither good nor bad, nor is life good nor bad, nor are situations good nor bad, but the value judgments you place upon yourselves, upon your life, upon situations, conditions and circumstances stems from the kind of prejudiced meanings that you offer, that you seek to understand.

And with that it can definitely and absolutely be that you have at your disposal such a lovely, powerful tool to turn even your darkest challenges into an opportunity to offer yourselves a different kind of meaning. Does this make sense to you?

BRIAN: Absolutely, Kris!

KRIS: And what about others?

ANYA: What if there is a situation where you really understand all this mentally and you’re trying to apply the Triple ‘A’ and all the tools and it’s not happening?

KRIS: The point might be that more listening… (Pause)…Very often someone may find themselves inside a paper bag and because they meet a slight amount of resistance in trying to break free of the paper bag, they quickly become confused and may very quickly consider that now they are forever trapped inside the paper bag, unable to break free, even if it is indeed the flimsiest of paper bags. Understanding that it is absolutely and completely a product of your own energies, of your own thought processes, of your own beliefs and your need for a specific outcome.

And it is not to say that the answers or solutions will appear instantaneously in a way that you might be able to understand on the spot, but at least you would necessarily reclaim your own energies and that way be able to break free of the paper bag, break free of the limitations you have imposed upon yourselves. And very often it is not the immediate answers to why, why, why that may bring the solutions, because why, why, why may more or less imply that one is still bereft of power, that all of one’s power lies tied into the answer to why, why, why which simply means “why me, why me, why me? What have I done to deserve this?”‘ Does that make sense?

ANYA: Yes.

KRIS: So if you make the solution dependent upon answering the question as we have presented it may indeed limit you even more.

ANYA: So what would be a good question?

KRIS: Indeed. Our humble suggestion then, is to recognize that one is engaging one’s energies in that direction that you realize you do not want to go and that you bring back the flow of your momentum to yourself. If you consider this poor analogy: say the house is burning down and the fire trucks show up and then the firemen or women start looking around on the lawns, on the walls, on the parts of the building that are not yet on fire to see what could have caused the fire, may actually end up being as good as the firemen not showing up. First they put out the fire, then they may consider looking at possible causes and look at the situation in that way after the fire is put out. Does that make sense?

ANYA: Yes.

BRIAN: Is it like we create the challenges and then when the challenge is done, we look at it and investigate why we created the challenge?

KRIS: There are very many occasions where you might not even need to…. how do you say?…. frown your brow.

MARK: Furrow your brow?

KRIS: Either way. That this may reveal itself to you in the exploration of the subject matter of reclaiming your own energies. And it can be a very powerful tool indeed, simply because it assists you right away in knowing that this is not something that is happening to you as if from elsewhere, it is something that you have launched — an event or condition that you have launched — and it may have taken quite some time, as we have suggested earlier, for all the factors to be in proper order so that the domino effect can then be created. Does that make sense?

BRIAN: Oh, yeah.

MARK: Just to paraphrase there, basically we are creatures of habit who keep setting these fires that we don’t necessarily need to set and we’re so busy asking why and we’re not putting out the fires, but why we’re setting them in the first place.

KRIS: It may also very well depend on what you are setting on fire. Perhaps you would like to create a nice bonfire to sing songs around, drink some beer, roast some marshmallows and have a jolly old time! So in itself, again, starting a fire may not necessarily be a destructive thing. Do you follow?

MARK: Absolutely. Just like the analogy of the knife, fire is not a good nor bad thing.

KRIS: Indeed. You can also take electricity. Electricity can heat your homes, help you prepare warm meals, allow you to take warm showers, allow you to light the interiors of your homes and even the exteriors in the night, just as electricity can be used to kill, whether it is in the electric chair or someone inadvertently crosses the wrong kind of wires and receives a very electrifying kind of experience, even an out of body electrifying experience!

Thus, fire, electricity, knives, YOURSELVES are neither good nor bad in that very strict sense of the word. We have suggested beforehand, in another presentation and many other times for that matter to consider that you are born with original goodness and not something called “original sin” which for all intents and purposes, is a very bad bill of goods. Does that make sense?

MARK: Most definitely.

KRIS: Most populations would not hesitate to gather signatures and votes and even resort to a vote of non-confidence if they feel their government is ultimately selling them out, pushing a bad bill of goods, correct?

(Yes)

And yet, no such action ever is taken against religions who may do the very same thing and have done the very same thing. So ultimately, what kind of perspective can you create within yourselves such that you can quickly recognize that you may indeed have set up a situation and it no longer benefits you in the way you desired. How would you go about doing that?

THERESA: Pay attention to the way you feel?

BRIAN: Pay attention also to your inner dialog of what you’re feeding yourself, the program you’re running — what I’ve been running for years and years — and then asking why are you running that. I think being aware of your inner dialog, Kris, would be a big help, because it’s what creates the outward reality, really deep down.

ELLEN: Take your power back within yourself.

KRIS: And we believe that you follow your own advice, do you?

BRIAN: Starting to!

KRIS: Indeed!

BRIAN: I have come to a realization of what I’ve created for the last thirty-five years of the belief system of rejection and only by listening to my inner dialog do I realize where it’s coming from; and I’ve started practicing opening my heart more to me and opening my heart to Essence, instead of the head.

KRIS: Indeed. Anyone else would like to share?

TOM: I have a question. When you talk about using the Triple ‘A’ to reclaim our energies… sometimes we talk about transforming our energies, would the transforming part just be a psychological aspect, changing our perspective, is that the transformation process? When we transform our energies, let’s say from monsters into, I don’t know, whatever you want — little angels or something — into a more positive manner.

KRIS: In many ways you are indeed quite correct. Though we would love to have everyone understand very clearly that though it may be termed “psychological” it is no less as powerful, whether you are hitting a psychological brick wall or a physical brick wall. The only difference is that psychological brick walls do not necessarily break your teeth. Does that make sense to you?

BRIAN: Mmhm. Wouldn’t it also be on a visceral level, like you said on the radio show about our DNA? When it’s released on a visceral level, then it creates. It triggers the units of consciousness?

KRIS: Indeed, what you hold in your awareness, whether your feeling-tones, emotions, ideas, thoughts and whatever else you find, it is indeed used through the instrument of your own DNA to manifest into an as concrete, externalized, or objective reality experience as is possible, according to the blueprint you give it. And indeed, as we have suggested many times, you are most fortunate indeed that not all of your feeling-tones, thoughts, emotions and so on, are created physically.

BRIAN: So in other words, Kris, the thinker and the maker would act with discernment in the creation of our physical reality.

KRIS: There are many thoughts that you entertain that you yourselves know you would never invest with any kind of energy.

BRIAN: No… or else we wouldn’t be here.

KRIS: The boogey man would have gotten you a long time ago. Little children may indeed be extremely frightened of the boogey man that lives underneath the bed or in the closet and they may appear extremely frightened and yet they also know that no such creature exists. They are testing out some of the extremes of their own energetic processes and learn to differentiate into what is necessary for them to invest into for the creation of their physical adventures.

We suggested also, earlier on, that you are creatures of meaning, that you give meaning to everything in your life as well as you ARE the meaning of your life, you are the meaning of life and you are the meaning of the universe. And to bring all of that together now, is to recognize to varying degrees, as is possible for you at any given time, that you are fully able to recognize how you are investing your own energies, how you are investing and projecting your energies to the creation of events, conditions, and circumstances that amount to what you call the human condition. YOUR condition as well as the condition of all other human beings.

And this is perhaps where we have suggested often in the past that one have a certain degree of compassion, not only for others, but mostly for yourself. And in that process you are perhaps in a better position to understand how others, other human beings, meet their own challenges. You may not necessarily be able to glimpse all of the beliefs that they put together to generate enough momentum to create their condition, but all in all, you can still recognize the sheer genius involved in that process whether one is becoming poorer or one is becoming richer, the process is exactly the same. Does that make sense?

(Yes)

Are there any inquiries or questions at this moment? (Pause) Then perhaps you might enjoy a small break. We do want to make certain that you understand the uplifting potential presented here. In no way, shape or form are we putting any of your creative endeavors down, but instead wanting very much for each of you to recognize there is still so much more potential available at your fingertips, that it may only be a matter of waking up and recognizing that potential. Does that make sense?

(Yes)

Indeed then! Do enjoy a small break.

[Break at 8:45 PM]

MARK: (After a long, quiet pause) Everyone is so quiet!

NARDINE: Mmm… not me! I’ve got to acknowledge in myself what I’m feeling and hearing and seeing from Kris’ words, is that my biggest stumbling block I’m recognizing and what I’m hearing in his words is that stepping only wholly and totally into the divinity of my being is an ongoing process, because to believe in our magnificence, our purity, our light just to be here, to have fun and play and create with the magic of all of you… it seems a little bit more than one could even imagine being allowed to do!

And then when we recognize the choosing of the life that we’ve chosen and all of the programming and patterns and beliefs that have brought us to now, un-programming those beliefs and patterns and processes, changing and recognizing the ones that no longer support the me I am now, is a now-to-now, every moment recognition of “Am I in my comfort in joy, or am I in my discomfort and not honoring my light, my truth, my heart?” And it is a perpetual process and for myself, because I like to play with believing in magic, believing in my divinity and trusting to the core of my being that everything always happens for the highest good of everyone.

I allow so much of this aspect into my reality, but my patterns that I embraced with my family from a very young age, an ongoing area of challenge for me to allow myself to believe that by honoring me I’m honoring all, and yet the program that says “Well you’re not being a good daughter if you’re not doing this, or you’re not being a good sister if you’re not doing this,” it is an area of my life…. and again, recognizing the magic of All That Is, I knew I had to evolve to this place and time, I’ve known that this process of stepping into me, not stepping out of my family, but stepping into me, was something that I needed to come to in my life.

But it doesn’t make it any easier and my compassion and empathy and the ways of understanding of Mum and Dad’s choosing is all very integral, but where does my responsibility and accountability for their choosing end and my stepping into my creative play begin? I haven’t found that — not boundary, but that comfort or whatever it might be — so I just keep hearing Source tell us “Believe in the goodness, godness, wholeness, beauty, magnificence of who we are and within our choosing of reality where do you challenge and test and all of this stuff as an unfolding, blissful moment of discovery… and…(Chuckling) that’s my little chat!

MARK: You are indeed a very powerful being, a very magical creature and you’re using your magic very creatively, and now you’re realizing that you have choices and you don’t have to be creating the same events and circumstances you have in the past. You can be creating more wonderful, joyous ones. It’s all a matter of choice and by using that Triple ‘A,’ it’s easier. That Triple ‘A’ is a wonderful tool that makes it easier. It’s not so daunting a task now of trying to break that cycle and patterns.

KRIS: Indeed, we have purposefully made the Triple ‘A’ so simple, it is perhaps as magical as tiggers. …. Now we trust you are all familiar with Winnie the Pooh? For tiggers are magical things, too!

(Chuckling)

And that is the point of what we presented. Some situations may take a little longer to clear up and others may clear up faster. The whole gist of this is that you acknowledge and even begin to appreciate how clever and magical you all are. Are there any other observations, points of view, commentary?

THERESA: Kris, I’ve noticed one thing seems to make a big difference in all of this manifesting and that is cultivating self-love. And a lot of challenges just seem to go away all by themselves when you start to spend a certain amount of time each day deliberately thinking loving thoughts toward yourself, toward your body, toward your personality, toward your life and if I were to recommend a shortcut to anybody — but I wouldn’t call it a shortcut, because it is valuable in and of itself, but if someone was stuck and they couldn’t think of another way, that would be the way that I would suggest. Just sit down and whatever way you can, direct those feelings of affection and nurturing towards yourself.

KRIS: Indeed and this is — as we suggested earlier — the self-appreciation is truly the cornerstone of the building blocks of your edifice or structure of self.

BRIAN: Hey, Kris, I also liked what you gave us of the practice of a new day, of looking at each day as — I guess you could say a microcosm of your birth and death — and how much joy and excitement do you want to cram into that one single day. I find that to be really, really powerful and like you said, also opening up to be vulnerable, not vulnerable to others, but opening up to be vulnerable to yourself, to open your own heart.

KRIS: Indeed, there is definitely something to be said for understanding your own nature. And by appreciating that magical, powerful self expressing itself even through challenges and stormy times as easily as through wonderful, joyous times, again utilize the same process. The difference being that when you engage your energies in a stormy time, you can definitely recognize the situation as it unfolds through the amount of opposing and resistance as if another part of yourself indeed is pointing out strife and other difficult passages, inner conflicts that arise when you are going against your own energy.

That is still something that you create and recognizing such things and immediately remembering there is no need at all to inject yourself with value judgments. There is no need to beat yourself to a psychological pulp, but instead simply recognize out of appreciation for the self that you are that this is no longer something that you prefer or want to continue, that you are reclaiming the energies and altering or changing the direction of your energy.

Because you appreciate who you are can have that first tremendous impact that literally puts the break on the momentum because as you go in those directions, where you are opposing or resisting yourself, you are engaged in a vehicle of energy. For some it may go very slowly and for others it may even be like a speeding train heading for disaster. Once you are able to turn it around, knowing that your situation first of all is not a truth nor is it even an absolute truth, but merely the flow of ideas. And once you start engaging the fighting process, those ideas take on a whole different kind of realism. Does that make sense?

(Yes)

Once you can recognize that this is not a real situation in that sense of the word, but instead the organization of an idea or concept or sets of thoughts with all of relevant energies and you want to take those energies and swing them to another direction so that all factors and relevancies are to your liking, give you pleasure and flow as opposed to opposition. That too is little more than sets of ideas and thoughts and concepts, but they are more in line with what you enjoy. Would that not be so?

(Yes)

So once you stare that psychological boogey man in the eye and tell him — or her, if she is a proper boogey lady — “You are nothing more than a set of ideas and concepts that I have conjured and I am a great magical being and I say ‘No more!’ I say something different. Something I do not need to fight, but something I can enjoy and play with.” How does that sound?

NARDINE: Wonderful!

MARK: I found a couple of techniques that work well for me. One was in line with what Brian was talking about with the gift of a brand new day: each morning when I leave the apartment and it’s still dark and I look up to the sky and I look for the Moon and I look for the planet Mercury and I say Hello, I say Good Morning, whether it’s a cloudy day or not, and I give my self that sacred gift of a brand new day.

It helps break the pattern of those negative thoughts that we tend to be in, when we get up and when we go to sleep and the course of our day, just taking that little bit of time to say Good Morning to the new day I find works very well for me. And in line with what Theresa was talking about, I also find certain songs that I listen to. For instance, Christina Aguilera: “I Am Beautiful” and Billie Ray Martin: “Your Loving Arms.” I listen to that on the subway on the way to work and I often picture Essence putting loving arms around me and I find that very uplifting and powerful.

KRIS: Indeed, you can, each of you, build up a repertoire. We have offered some of these in the past. One of them is the wrist point. Do you recall that one?

MARK: I do.

KRIS: Sohars also put up a very nice design of that wrist point. Do you recall, Sohars?

JOHN: Oh, absolutely, yes!

MARK: He made a red dot out of it!

KRIS: Indeed! There are all sorts of numbers of ways you can create your own arsenal or storehouse or even energy bank account of wonderful moments and events and if you want to have a withdrawal, you have first to put something in the account. Does that make sense to you?

(Yes)

BRIAN: With interest!

KRIS: Indeed! And you can invest in yourselves in that way. Find a place in your body or in your mind, but preferably somewhere physical so it is visceral and put in that place all of the beautiful experiences, even if you have to go back in your memories. Find wonderful episodes and moments and store them in that spot — any spot, but we chose that one because it is very inconspicuous — and when it is time for a situation that requires you to make a withdrawal, then simply tap on it.

No… go through the inventory of what you have stored in there: beautiful moments looking up at the full moon on a beautiful winter’s night or a summer’s night; perhaps you saw beautiful flowers and were captivated by their sweet scent, that is part of your deposit. You hear the gentle patter of falling rain on your window on a warm summer morning, tap that in.

Anything that makes you feel warm, good, peaceful, joyous. Perhaps it is a movie you saw or a conversation with a friend. It does not matter. Store it in there and when it is time that you feel the need — perhaps you are having a challenging day — then you can tap the spot and make a withdrawal. Bring out what is there. And we again ask you not to take our word for it, but that each of you test it. Test the limits of this any way you can. Any questions or observations?

NARDINE: I’m a millionaire already!

(Group chuckling)

KRIS: Indeed! May we hit you up for a loan?

NARDINE: Absolutely! I have an overflow! (Laughing)

JOHN: Just as your getting towards the end here, Kris, I wanted to thank you very much for your presentation this evening and also for my being part of it. I really like the idea — I absolutely was thinking, the good parts of my life, the fulfillment, let’s call it the good stuff, this I was taking credit for as being my creation, but just as you said: the bad stuff, the physical stuff, the pains, the problems, I was sort of, without thinking about it, saying “Oh, that can’t be me! That’s somebody else!” So, it’s very helpful to me to understand that I’m a creative genius for creating all of that stuff, too.

KRIS: Indeed. When you can see that you use the same processes, the same power, the same genius, the same creativity, the same zeal and enthusiasm, you might not necessarily see it that way, but when you can come to that understanding, indeed it can change everything. You can very quickly realize that when you are heading in an opposing direction, you can reclaim your energies very quickly and turn it around.

Understand, each and every one of you, that there is only one truth in your life. There is only one truth in the universe. That is YOU. When you say you seek the truth, you are seeking truth, you want truth, you want absolute truth, sometimes we — and do take this with a grain of salt — but we would girlishly chuckle to ourselves because we know that in some instances, you might not be able to handle that truth, as some famous words were said. Do you understand what we mean? Because you are the truth of what you seek. Everything else is an idea, a concept, something that you use to give the truth of yourself an explicit and expressive display.

MARK: Now there’s a quote!

KRIS: Consider the humble and lowly grain of sand on any beach. Pick a beach, any beach! The grain of sand lies there day after day, night after night. It sees sunrises and sunsets, moonrises and moonsets. It may even be there on the beach for thousands of years. Children may come, make sandcastles. Small, large, gigantic sandcastles. Adults may also come and make their kinds of sandcastles. There may be whole contests of sandcastle builders, but no one would expressly believe that the most sophisticated sand castle is a Buckingham Palace or a Taj Mahal in any other sense of the word, a sand castle is just that: it is made of sand. You cannot forget its basic ingredient. Even though the Taj Mahal or the Buckingham Palace itself may be composed of sand, it is a completely different reality. Does that make sense? Do you follow?

(Yes)

The sand is always the sand. It will return to its sandy self as soon as the tide comes in. Sand castle is all gone. What is important is the concept of the sandcastle and anyone can make a sandcastle. The truth is the sand and you, like the sand, are always experiencing the realities that you define for yourselves. At times you may be like little, humble, children’s play buckets, filled with sand and turned over and proclaimed as a sandcastle. At other times, you may indeed be experiencing the most sophisticated projections, similar to what an award-winning sandcastle builder, a champion, would create. But when the tide of your being comes in, you are still just the sand. Does that make sense to you?

(Yes)

Thus, know that you are always the truth that you seek. The truth will not be found on mountaintops, nor will it be found on the lips of gurus, nor will it be found in the words of those such as ourselves, nor will it be found in sacred books, nor ancient teachings, or in far-off worlds. The truth is only found in one place and that is what you are. And with that, we thank you for your lovely consideration and for the truth of your being as well as being able to understand that. THAT is being a genius and with that we return Joseph to you and may your truths always be your own.

ALL: Thank you, Kris.

[Session ends at 9:16 PM]

Detailed Roll Call:

Toronto: Serge (Joseph), Mark (Philip), John (Sohars)
Nova Scotia: Theresa (Ramanuja)
Delaware: Ellen (Kwaa’Ji) and Brian (El-Don)
Hawaii: Tom (Desiré)
Utah: Anya (Greensleeves)
Oregon: Lisa (Lauromar) and Jerry
Australia: Nardine (Herakleides)

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