Kris Radio: The Sardine That Stood Out

August 30, 2007

Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Lisa Q. Pratt (Lauromar)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on August 30, 2007

MARK: Good evening and welcome to Kris radio here on thatradio.com. My name is Mark Bukator and I am your co-host this evening with…

JOHN: And I am John Hawkins with a very lively microphone this evening and very happy to be back as always. It’s kind of a nice evening here in Toronto, it’s been a warm day but there’s that lovely, just lovely hint of a change in the weather coming. And of course we have our friend Serge with us, he’s playing with the computer right now but…

MARK: Say “Hello!”

SERGE: “Hallo”!

(Laughter)

SERGE: Hello everyone!

MARK: And we’d like to say hi to our affiliates in Ottawa: Matt and Nicole. Are you there Matt and Nicole?

(Pause)

MARK: Hello! Ottawa come in!

JOHN: Well could I… well anyway we…

HUGH: It should be working now, Matthew are you there in Ottawa?

MATT: Yes we are, can you hear us?

MARK: We can hear you now!

MATT: Alrighty, well thanks for having us!

NICOLE: Hi everyone, glad to be here!

MARK: Hey Nicole!

SERGE: And also, welcome all the little Kris Skypies out there on Skype-land.

MARK: And Hugh on the boards! Hey!

MARK: So it’s the sardine show tonight!

JOHN: Yes, there’s been quite a lot of discussion about what the sardine that stands out might be all about. I have a feeling that it’s one of those things that could go any one of a billion different ways, and we’ll just have to see.

MATT: Sure got a lot of sardine e-mails out this week.

MARK: Oh, no kidding! (Laughing)

SERGE: Almost as many as there are sardines!

MATT: You know what; it’s amazing that when a good radio show topic like this comes up, so many people come out. And you know, you hear all these names of people that are listening to the radio show that you haven’t heard of or haven’t heard of in a while. So that just makes you think that there’s gotta be tons of people out there and so the reason why Nicole and I are here is for anybody out there listening, if you want to ask Kris a question, all you have to do is go on Skype and if you would just add a friend to me, Matthew.Kolling, and I am from Cave Creek, Arizona. Send a message to me and we’ll put you into the Kris radio Skype chat and you are welcome to ask Kris any pertinent question about the topic or things that you think would benefit yourself and other people.

MARK: Cool!

MATT: Woohoo! So there you go Skypies from all around the world, unite!

SERGE: Yes and there’s people from as far away as Malaysia and Spain, England, Australia, it just keeps growing.

MARK: Growing and growing.

JOHN: Yes, you know it’s interesting. I don’t know, I’m sure you guys, well you forwarded the e-mail to me because I occasionally get an odd e-mail from somebody from across the globe somewhere saying (chuckling) “Oh we really like the Kris radio show and think that it’s wonderful!” and I don’t know, I’ve never, it’s a wonderful way to meet total strangers from across, you know from a million miles away.

SERGE: Yes, I think it’ll get really interesting when we start getting e-mails from people from Mars and Jupiter and (chuckling).

(Laughter)

NICOLE: Oh Serge, we love you! It is, it’s absolutely wonderful.

MARK: So speaking of…

NICOLE: It’s wonderful that so many people are joining in and sharing their ideas and stories and asking questions, and listening to Kris, and it’s, it’s awesome what’s happening.

MARK: Definitely. I was just gonna bring up The Consciousness Mentoring Institute as well and the Skypies there, and I think these, this is something we’re talking about, and there’s a group called The CMI, and they’re going to be meeting with Kris over Skype every other week starting in September…

SERGE: And most of these people are from the momentum Skype group.

MARK: But others are welcome. And if you are interested in being mentored by Kris, you can contact Anya at the momentum_team@yahoo.com. (Mark repeats the e-mail address)

SERGE: And we also have the workshop in September.

MARK: In Halifax.

SERGE: Yup.

MARK: “The Power of Original Goodness.” That’s coming up real fast.

SERGE: Yup, just three weeks, about.

MARK: Yeah, yeah that’s amazing. September 22nd in Dalhousie University and it’s a one day event, it’s a Saturday, and price goes up day after tomorrow! Right now it’s a hundred bucks, and it’s going up to a hundred and twenty as of September 1st. If you’re… you can go to the Krischronicles.com website or you can contact Teresa in Halifax: tsmart@handsmiths.com for that workshop.

JOHN: Well it’s interesting to ponder, I mean we’ve had so much reaction to the name of the topic for tonight’s radio show but I think it’s worth mentioning that “The Power of Original Goodness”, some people may not be aware but this is a little bit of a play on words because Kris for some time now has been talking about how the idea of original sin is a basic mistake that has been made for a long, long time. And that… so he substituted, rather than original sin, the idea of original goodness!

MARK: Well he’s mentioned that many times over, over the years and the whole concept of original sin is a very religious thing and it’s an experiment that’s been on-going for thousands of years now and it’s time to change it because as Essence and as focuses of Essence we are born and are generated, are created out of original goodness and not sin.

JOHN: Yeah.

MARK: The whole concept that we’re flawed, that we’re damned, and we have to repent, yada-yada-yada. He loves to make fun of that. (Laughing)

JOHN: Well you see that had some value a couple thousand years ago but it’s run its course as a myth, and we’re ready for something new.

MARK: Exactly, exactly.

KRIS: Indeed. And if ever there was a thing to repent for, it is only if you forget your pants.

(Laughter)

KRIS: Other than that, you are not the kind of flawed individuals as portrayed in many of the duplicitous religious belief systems. And with that we trust that you are comfortable and we thank you for your consideration.

MARK: Thank you, Kris.

KRIS: And as you have noted, yes the topic of sardines has certainly whet the appetite.

JOHN: Yes!

KRIS: It is a good thing that those who participated on the topic so far are not cats.

(Laughter)

KRIS: And indeed this can lead into a most interesting little story. And perhaps now is a good time to begin that story and we trust that you also remember the topics for the following weeks.

MARK: You want me to list them now?

KRIS: Not at this time.

MARK: Okay, good. (Chuckling)

KRIS: As long as you remember them…

MARK: Yes I have them.

KRIS: …that is fine.

(Pause)

KRIS: This is a story somewhat out of the ordinary and yet so familiar that you may find yourself becoming deeply engrossed in it, as already many correspondents have found it evocative and it has elicited much pondering, posturing, speculation, all in good fun and exploration. And yet, no one can have as much fun as our little sardines, as you will see. And before we begin this little story, simply know that you will find it very comforting, soothing to hear about the little sardine who wanted to change.

And as any sardine worth its scales or fins, our little sardine swam the great oceans with all of its brothers and sisters and cousins and nephews and extended families as they have been doing since the dawn of sardinedom, since there were oceans to be created. And our little sardine took great pleasure in traveling great distances in massive schools filled with its kin. And yet, every once in a while, the little sardine traveling here, there, in the massive body of its school would stop and think if there was anything else that they could do besides running away from tuna and fish, fishermen’s nets and enjoying the great tides coming and going.

And yet it thought that such thoughts most likely were quite absurd since no one ever talked about having such thoughts. So it stored away these kind of thoughts in its little sardine mind and pretended it had not thought any of those things and it continued enjoying the great play within the oceans. And sometimes, some of the little sardine’s friends and other friends would gather under seaweeds and algae, under overhangs. Sometimes with other associates, other sea creatures, and tell stories.

And one day, as they, the little sardine and its friends went to their little storytelling place, they discovered that they were not the first there that evening. When they got there, there was an old sardine already, swimming about. And in their curiosity they approached the older sardine and inquired as to who it was and what it was doing there. And the old sardine explained that it had traveled many, many oceans, even ventured into rivers, had escaped many a tuna and nets, and during its travels it had encountered many mysteries, had learnt many things, and that hopefully these things made him wiser.

And at the mention of all the stories the old sardine heard, the young sardines got all very excited because they loved hearing stories. Especially stories of far away places, places they had not gone to and likely would never go to. So with that, they all swam around and around the old sardine, asking for stories, begging for stories, and finally the old sardine said “please, if you continue swimming around I will get very dizzy, so I will tell you stories just so you sit still and not make me dizzy.”

And the young sardines were all so delighted that they all took position and began paying attention and listening to the old sardine. And the old sardine began telling them tales that entranced them, that made them forget temporarily who they thought they were. And as they listened to the old sardine, they heard marvelous tales of far away lands, big sea creatures they had never seen, and especially, the old sardine began telling them how one time, he came across a group, an entire school of wiser older sardines who made it their purpose to search out other young sardines and hopefully share with them the deeper wisdom they had learned.

And at that, the young sardines were almost besides themselves with joy, so the old sardine began telling them what the wiser sardines had conveyed, and it was this: that the wise sardines had discovered that many sardines simply swam here, there and everywhere, sometimes in unison, sometimes scattered in all directions without much focus. And they discovered, that by sharing with these groups of unfocused young sardines, they could encourage them to explore the powers that they had within their little sardine minds and their abilities to change their lives was such that if they even tried for a few times to put this into effect, they would see marvelous results. And the secret was for all the sardines to swim together as one body, heading into one direction at a time.

And this would create such a state of awareness within each of the sardines, that any one sardine would be able to feel what all of the others in the school were able to feel and they would respond as one unit, especially in cases of imminent danger if a tuna or a shark or a net were seen on the horizon. And the old wise sardines taught the young new sardines how, if they encountered any kind of imminent danger, they could all begin to appear as one big fish, then surely this would frighten the bigger enemies. And even though each sardine by itself was very small, when all of them connected together in unison, they could give the image and impression of being a gigantic fish that would frighten away the enemy and prevent them from being eaten.

And the young group of sardines in this particular school thought that surely this is an idea well worth putting to good use. So they practiced and practiced till they functioned in unison and the first and the last sardine were able to feel exactly what each one was undergoing, and if one had a different thought, they would all match the thoughts to reflect unity. And yet each sardine discovered that even in unity, they were able to maintain their marvelous sardine-like individuality but were able in times of need to function together.

And after many such practices, this school of sardines decided to explore some unexplored territory near the tall seaweeds, a literal forest of great gigantic seaweeds. And as they approached, lo and behold, a gigantic barracuda lunged at them. They dispersed quickly but then remembered if they united, and created the image of a larger fish, then indeed to their wonderment, the barracuda backed off and ran back into the forest of seaweeds. And from that moment on, these young sardines never looked back, realizing that putting their minds together, they could create something of great value larger than themselves but that contained each of their individual expressions in unity.

And as the old sardine wound up his tale, he looked at these young sardines listening to his story of long ago and found them all wide-eyed, entranced by the possibilities. There was one unique sardine that stood out more than the others who thought “how marvelous that if this story is true, then they too might be able to do something in such a manner and therefore they could be different and this would allow them to change their particular vision of life to be and do something other than running to and fro.” And so this little sardine thought and thought for days afterwards. And he thought “how can I change who I am so that everyone can benefit from this great idea?”

And he thought some more and he consulted with his young friends. Some thought the story was likely very nice but did it have any practical application? Did it have any specific purpose other than to entertain them? Perhaps the old storyteller was nothing more than that, an old sardine who told stories to entertain others. But the little sardine thought to himself, this wisdom that he heard was definitely more than a story. He could feel it in his gills. He could feel it even underneath his scales. His little sardine brain was abuzz with ideas, and the potential, if this were indeed real could transform and change not only his life but the lives of all sardines forever!

And he tried to speak to others about it. Some laughed, some thought it curious, some thought it had possibilities, and after a while he began to only talk to those who thought that the story had possibilities. And together they dared to be different. They would leave the great mass of sardines and try to work together. And after much practice, do you know what they discovered? They discovered that they could actually do this thing that it worked for them! And they further discovered that talking to others about it might not be the best approach but if they demonstrated, especially if they could demonstrate in the face of some kind of imminent danger to their livelihood, they might be able to convince more people.

So very often, they gathered together just outside the massive body of sardines and did their little sardine group thinking. Very often they could hear the jeers and the sneers and the laughs coming from inside the great mass of sardines. Initially they were troubled, then they forgot about that and they knew that if the others were laughing or pointing at them or sneering, it meant they were looking and that is what they wanted. And gradually more and more sardines bought into the idea and their little sardine group became larger and larger until only a few were left. But these few, in order to save their little sardine faces said to the new group “we were only having fun, we will join you now.”

Thus they all practiced this together, and suddenly sardine after sardine after sardine after sardine began to be aware of the feelings of all the other sardines and the massive sardine body! And they began to travel in unison as if they themselves were one fish. And they thought “this is very nice but is it practical?” Our little sardine friend said “well, why don’t we test it. Let’s go swim by the tall seaweed forest.” And at that, more than half the group became frightened and said “do you know what lurks in there? Many of our friends and cousins and brothers and parents went in there, never to be seen again!” The little sardine explained that this time it would be different. And they decided it was worth at least one try and if it failed, at least they would all run away and the little sardine might become some creature’s lunch and they would be safe.

So closer and closer they got to the seaweed forest and sure enough, they felt it coming. The waves of rushing water heading for them, meaning a large creature was coming at them. And the little sardine reminded them of the wisdom they had learned and how to stay close and in contact, and closer and closer they could feel this large creature come for them and almost magically, their practices kicked in and they became as one large fish themselves. So large that the great barracuda who left the safety of the dark seaweed forest was so frightened, he actually left the seaweed forest never to return and be seen of again.

And at that moment, many other sardines came out of the seaweed forest. They were the friends, cousins, brothers, sisters and parents of many of the sardines in the school and they said when they became lost in the forest, they became so afraid of the great barracuda, they would not leave the little alcoves and niches they found because it protected them from being eaten. But they all marveled and wanted to be taught this new thing they had learned. And all the sardines were so relieved and happy to see their friends and relatives. They immediately agreed and said “this is sardine wisdom. It is ancient. It was given to us by an old sardine storyteller who had seen this done in far off lands and oceans and brought the wisdom to us so we too can learn it and pass it on to others.”

And thus, the little sardine who wanted to change indeed did change, and yet marvelously remained the sardine he was born to be and became the sardine he was born to be at the same time. And thus ends our sardine story. And may we please know that time?

MARK: 8:34.

KRIS: Then indeed! Please have a un-sardine-like break.

ALL: Thank you Kris!

MATT: Wow! That was incredible!

(Musical interlude break)

MARK: Welcome back to Kris radio here on thatradio.com. We’ve been listening to a wonderful story by our old sardine buddy here and quite an enlightening little story.

JOHN: A very nice story, very nice story indeed. Yes, I have a feeling that you could substitute the word Orodin for the word sardine in that story, just do a search and replace in your mind.

MARK: Yeah.

JOHN: And you’ve got a story of what we Orodin are about.

SERGE: Fishy?

(Chuckles)

JOHN: Yeah. Well it’s interesting. We’re… I mean I think we have that connection. The fish obviously are moving as one fish, as he said, which is beautiful…

MARK: As a school, as a group.

JOHN: As I think about it, and so I think that that is implying that human beings are so intimately connected at the other layers, that we have the potential to do the same thing.

MARK: Indeed.

JOHN: What would happen if a million human beings all had the same intention and the same direction at the same time?

MATT: You could call it the million sardine march.

KRIS: Though you might find it difficult to comprehend, in so many ways your species actually does function in unison even though each gracious and sacred individual within that massive human body are complete individuals, you all function in a particular direction. You find, however you do it, you find the means to follow your fulfillment, even if one individual on one side of the planet does one thing and another on the other side does another thing altogether and you might definitely think that the two actions and the two lives are completely separate and have nothing to do with each other. At the conscious perceptive level you might have a reason to believe so.

However at another layer of being altogether, you do all function in unison for the value fulfillment of your entire species. And it is not to procreate and have the most toys, but specifically for individual and collective fulfillment. As each individual fulfills his or her purpose, so does that singular fulfillment also trickle down throughout the entire species for the collective fulfillment, the sharing of ideas, spreading like wildfire.

So this great creative expression of consciousness that you refer to as your human species also functions in unity, however shocking that notion may appear to be. Even when you think you might find evidence against such a notion, still, that notion at those deeper layers of purpose and fulfillment holds true. You are working towards both individual and collective fulfillment. That is the very nature of co-creation. You and you and you, Hugh create your own individual perceptions of reality, your own representations, but within that individualized insular activity, you also function with the notion of the collective in mind even if you do not ever come to that realization. Does that make some sense to you?

JOHN: Oh yeah, I like it.

MARK: I agree, I agree.

JOHN: I like it.

MARK: It’s one of those things I like to think about, you know one of those things that throws some light bulbs on and blows some fuses at the same time.

(Laughter)

JOHN: That’s nicely contradictory, ambiguous.

KRIS: Indeed.

JOHN: Can I ask a question about this Kris? This is slightly removed, once removed, but time and again, over the times that we’ve been chatting, there have been things that… for instance this amazing connection that we have where we act as a unity, the human race. Time and again the bottom line ends up being “okay you’re not aware of this right now folks but this is in fact happening and at some point perhaps you’ll become aware of that.”

Now the question is, with this shift that’s going on, are we basically, I mean our conscious awareness is a tiny fraction of our… the awareness of our whole Selves. Is that the deal? In other words, even with the shift, 20 years from now are we still going to be operating on the basis of just not being aware of an awful lot of things that we know are going on?

KRIS: We could say that really depends on just how much awareness you want to cultivate. If you can, for the purpose of comparison, examine what your life was like 20 years ago and what your life has been like the last three years.

JOHN: Big, big change.

KRIS: Indeed. So imagine then, projecting the same kind of over-all awareness cultivation and extend that into say, 10 years from now. You will keep developing awareness and so will other individuals. The main factor is that awareness of your consciousness is something that is fairly new for your race in that sense of the word. Many people claim awareness of a divine being, of a supernatural power, something they have cultivated through their beliefs in religious systems.

The next logical development is the development of awareness whereas you have abdicated all of your powers to an apparent external supernatural force. Now you can see the true state of origins of that power that is your Self in the wholeness of the term. Thus the shift is an individualized journey that is shared by many people. Thus as a result of the sharing, the momentum grows and as the momentum grows, more and more people are awakening, and that creates the external version of the shift, but it is first and foremost a private individual realization. Does that make sense to you?

JOHN: Yes, thank you.

MARK: Something else that I took from this story is that we as humans are the sardines, but also the Self is that school of sardines: there’s the focuses and the aspects of Self that working together with each other…

JOHN: Oh I like that, that’s nice!

MARK: …are able to manifest so much more.

JOHN: That’s nice! Yeah, I like that!

KRIS: Indeed when you discover congruency, alignment of purpose and intent, then your own resources are that much more available to you to move in a desirable direction. You encounter the same at the personal level. If there is disparaging conflict within your own Self, well you might even feel pulled in different directions, uncertainly builds up, lack of confidence and other issues can result. But when you align your purpose, you function in a wholeness, your energies are that much more available to you and you can very nicely move to any desirable direction with little effort.

MARK: That makes total sense. It’s that negative self-talk, is all those sardines that were sneering at me.

(Laughter)

JOHN: But remember, if they’re sneering at you, at least they’re looking at you.

MARK: That’s right, they’re paying attention.

MATT: Well I have a question.

MARK: Go ahead Matt.

MATT: If you guys… well I was watching the DVD from the photo reading program that Serge and I had got, and the guy was, the guy says that you can read a page a second, in this book, like 25,000 words a minute. And what he says is, says you’re using… not your conscious mind like most learning teaches you, he says you’re using your subconscious mind because you already know everything in the book. You’re already even the same person as the author. He says you’ll get more out of a book if you look at the picture of the author and read a little bit about the author before you flip through the book.

So what he says is if you’re trying to learn consciously, you’re doing it the old-fashioned way. He says you already know everything in the book, you just need to set your intent and say what is this book want to tell me, and then flip through the pages and what you need to know from that book will be reminded, will be brought to your attention. And that’s kind of the feeling that I got when he was talking about all the sardines becoming one, is using becoming one with all like-minded people and being able to access all the resources that we all have.

JOHN: Nice!

MARK: Yeah, you did attract that book, brought it into your reality so therefore you created it… makes sense. Any comments from the old sardine? (Chuckling)

KRIS: There is not one word in such a book of that you are not aware of. Thus, the book itself comes from within, and when you apply whatever the technique is, it allows you to remember what you created. Does that make sense to you?

MARK: Yes.

JOHN: Right on!

MATT: Absolutely.

KRIS: So it can be utilized for more than books and book reading, but as an extraordinary tool to remember your energies, those energies of that flow in and out of your awareness on a constant and continual infinite basis, infinite fields of possibilities. And to more clearly focus upon one item in that infinite field of possibilities, to the point where you can consciously then study the matter. Does that make sense to you?

MARK: Yes.

MATT: Absolutely.

KRIS: There is so much that escapes the conscious mind because you are simply not trained in some of these arts. There was a time on your planet where there was no writing that you know of, instead everything was memorized. The human capacity was utilized to a much greater degree, in such that entire cultures’ knowledge base, an entire people’s cosmology was stored in the minds of their storytellers, these old sardines. Some of these old sardines have come to your school. You know some of them through the works that have been produced and we are one of these other old sardines seeking to assist you in remembering what is there in your lovely sardine-like minds. Now what is the time?

MARK: 5 (minutes) to, well 7 (minutes) to 8 (pm)

KRIS: Indeed. Now do you remember the next evening?

MARK: Yes, I have it right here: “Creating with Joy”

KRIS: Indeed.

JOHN: Whoa that’s nice.

KRIS: “With Joy.” Is joy something that can be cultivated?

JOHN: Yes!

KRIS: Or is it something that one needs to take medication for?

JOHN: Well that too.

(Chuckling)

KRIS: Creating with joy is one of these things that actually may escape many. Once you uncover some of the keys to this, which we will expand upon more in depth in October’s presentation, then it becomes a rather easy thing to put into practice. That is part of your own innate wisdom, ancient sardine wisdom. Thus perhaps interested individuals might have questions that can be sent through your internet and discussed on next Thursday.

JOHN: Lovely.

MARK: Great!

KRIS: And with that we thank you for your rapt attention, and for your enjoyment of our sardine tale, and may you have then a most pleasant week.

ALL: Thank you Kris.

MARK: So Matt why don’t you give everybody the Skype address again, or your Skype address for questions for next week?

MATT: Absolutely. It’s Matthew.Kolling and if you go to Skype… if you do not have Skype, you can go to Skype.com and you can download it for free, and then just go into where it says “add friends” and type me in. I’m from Cave Creek, Arizona, and send me a friend request, I will put you in the Kris radio chat, and you’re welcome to ask questions with the rest of the group. We’d love to find out who you are, we’d love to hear from you, and we’d love to ask your questions on the air.

MARK: Great! Also, if people wanna e-mail, they can send us an e-mail at krischronicles@gmail.com. Thanks Matt and Nicole, great having you here again!

MATT: Well thank you guys for having us. Great show!

MARK: Just a reminder to everybody that this coming Sunday, which was normally an International Session is cancelled. Serge and I are out of town. It’s a long weekend here and we’re going away, so the next session will be next Thursday here on the radio! Thanks Hugh on the boards and goodnight everybody!

JOHN: Goodnight!

MATT: Goodnight!

(Session ends)

Private Session: Theresa Smart

August 30, 2007

Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Theresa Smart
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on August 30, 2007

KRIS: Now we trust that you are comfortable.

THERESA: Yes, thank you Kris. Nice to talk to you again.

KRIS: Indeed. And we thank you for your consideration. Please feel free to ask your inquiries.

THERESA: Okay, Um, we have a few sessions booked and I’m thinking and wondering what is the best way to use the time we have. My goals are sort of to move towards a fuller expression of my true self or my inner self, or to become more self-expressive. And I’m wondering how can I best utilize these sessions towards that goal? What types of questions should I be asking? And what types of preparations should I be making? Um, any advice that you have; what directions do you think we could take this in that would accommodate that goal the best?

KRIS: Indeed. Firstly, doing exactly what you just did just now is excellent. Secondly, you might discover that some of our discussions also flow over into the various groups’ presentations.

THERESA: Yes. [Phone rings] Excuse me for a second, I thought I had this turned off. It will stop on its own, sorry about that.

KRIS: Indeed.

THERESA: So this will continue from the group sessions, yes.

KRIS: And there might be overflow from our discussions with you into the groups as well. A one-on-one approach is also very beneficial as it allows for interactions that would normally not necessarily be available within a group atmosphere.

THERESA: Yes.

KRIS: In this way, you might even feel safer and braver to ask questions that come to you that you would also not vent in a group.

THERESA: Right, yes.

KRIS: The very intent to move in such a direction already sets into motion all of the various bits of information and knowledge that you can develop to reach you, as it were, to be drawn to you in a variety of ways, so that you can go from where you are to where you desire to be. And that, on its own, also indicates that there is action at the level of consciousness.

THERESA: Good!

KRIS: First and foremost, we would highly recommend, and we will also be presenting this to the groups, is to become well-versed with the imagery that you create in the dream state. So that requires only a small amount of concentration towards recalling dreams. And not necessarily to become a Ph.D. in dream interpretation, after you have had two dreams. There are many people who literally sabotage their interests in this area, expecting that within a few nights of dreams, they should have at their fingertips, physically or psychologically, all of the interpretations necessary to understand the ins and outs of the dream imagery and the actions within the dream states themselves. Setting oneself up with that kind of an expectation is guaranteed to bring failure.

We would suggest, at the beginning, to not even make any specific concerted attempts to interpret the dreams except in those areas where you can recognize that the imagery and the actions in the dream states themselves speak to you quite directly. And notice as well what actions in the dream state – what metaphors in the dream scenarios – also address you metaphorically. What other connections does this dream experience or that dream experience bring to you? Without necessarily foraging for specific cosmic interpretations. Do you follow?

THERESA: Um hum. I think so.

KRIS: It eases initial burdens of trying to get it right immediately, which can sometimes and very often does, create more blockages at those states. And it also frees you to be more interactive and playful with imageries you recall from your dream adventures.

Developing that kind of relationship with your inner self will undoubtedly awaken other aspects of your overall self, moving it towards a healthier relationship between what you would consider the conscious and subconscious mind, or your present self and your holistic self – the whole self.

By keeping a dream record, it also provides you with the opportunity to go back, as it were, revisiting some earlier dream adventures and get further insights that, at that moment, could not be available to you. Do you follow?

THERESA: Yes.

KRIS: Any inquiries?

THERESA: Not specifically on that. I have been keeping a dream journal for quite a long time actually – a number of years off and on. And I do have a good collection of dreams here that we could talk about in this session if you felt that was advisable.

KRIS: Indeed. Dreams can be also very multi-layered. You will get a perception according to perceived actions in one way; revisiting the dream later on can bring about a completely different perception depending upon another kind of view of the same dream, but from a different angle, different point of view, different perspective.

And within those kinds of relationships with various aspects of self, you help establish more and more bridges, not only in terms of dream recall, nor only in terms of conscious and subconscious or conscious and subjective awareness, but also activating deeper layers of activities at the neurological levels. Thus it assists in the deepening of brain-wave patterns [and] can also prove mightily useful in meditative states as the conscious mind becomes more accustomed to delving into deeper dream states. Thus it would naturally gravitate towards such deeper states when you enter into a meditative mood which is very similar to deep dream states. Please continue.

THERESA: Okay, well if you want to proceed with dreams, um, it seems like I’ve had a couple of dreams lately, and at least one waking experience also, that seems to lead to the idea that I am experiencing a certain distrust of some aspect of myself. And in one of our group meetings on Skype the other day, this came out and Alan, who’s been doing the [muscle testing and energy] work and teaching us that, said to me that he was getting the message that I had a distrust of my own subconscious [this was because I was unable to get clear answers from the muscle testing procedure]. And there are two dreams in here that, upon reflecting, could actually also be indicating that same thing. Would you like me to tell you the dream?

KRIS: Indeed, please proceed.

THERESA: Okay, the first one, I was – this was about a month ago or a little less, three weeks ago – I was walking outside at night, in the dream it was night time, and on my left I saw a group of beautiful statues of mythical animals and gargoyles. There was kind of an eerie but also beautiful attraction that I felt towards these statues and I walked towards and amongst them. And when I got to the statues there were a lot of my friends there walking around. I fell down in the tall grass and a woman came over and started talking to me. And I did not trust her – I thought perhaps she was a witch. She seemed to be trying to hypnotize me and she was trying to induce me to fall asleep. I wasn’t afraid in the dream, I was actually really confident that there was no way that she was going to be able to hypnotize me. Her voice was very kind and very soothing but I still didn’t trust her but I went along with her, I pretended to go along. And I allowed myself to go into a deep state of meditation by following her voice. And I allowed myself to do that because I felt that at any time I would be able to stop the process. So again, I was feeling very confident. So when I was down and almost on the verge of going to sleep, I stood up, I came out of the deep state, and I said to her that “You cannot cast a spell over me”, and I felt very, very confident and I left. And then the dream continued on with some other things but that was the part of the dream that sort of spoke to me that perhaps that could indicate a certain distrust of another part of myself.

KRIS: Indeed, and it is very astute. And you have another dream?

THERESA: Yes, this one was just last night or the night before. I was in a train station and I was with a young man who was my friend and we were about to board a train. The Conductor was directing me to enter the first car of the train, but I – we both decided – the young man and me, we both decided that the Conductor was not to be trusted. And so my friend told me to go into the first car of the train, as the Conductor was telling me to do, but to immediately sneak out by the back door and to blend in with the crowd and kind of hide from the Conductor. So that’s what I did. I went in, came back out, blended in with the crowd, and then the two of us made our way down to the very, very back of the train, the very last car of the train because we felt that the Conductor never went there and we would be safe there. For some reason, in order to get to the last car of the train, we had to actually leave the train station and go outside. And again it was night-time. Outside we walked over sort of a field or a parking lot and we went to the last car of the train; we felt that we would be safe there. There was, as we were walking across the open space, there was a light shining back and forth like what you see in the movies in the prison yards where they’re searching for prisoners, and I was worried because the light actually shone on us at one point. But my friend was very confident and he ignored it. We went into the last car safely, but then I got confused and somehow I found myself with a group of people in the middle car. So, again, I wasn’t really safe. I looked back – my friend was still in the last car and he was now with someone else, and I thought that now that I was here I couldn’t go back without arousing suspicions. And that was the end of that dream.

So both of them, both dreams, include characters that I do not trust. But other than that I’m not sure what the dreams mean.

KRIS: Indeed. Did you notice the historical period within both dreams?

THERESA: Well, the first dream was outside and the statues seemed to be very old, like medieval. They weren’t modern-type statues. They were mythical creatures and gargoyles and this was in a field. It might of, sort of, had kind of a pagan feel to it maybe. And the train dream, the train was not, again, like a super modern train. Nor was it a steam engine. It was sort of in between, so, I mean, trains haven’t been around for that long, what two hundred years or something? Other than that, I didn’t notice.

KRIS: Indeed. Now in the first dream, gargoyles are most interesting constructions, both physically as well as within the dream metaphor. And they do represent more solidified shadow aspects of oneself – those parts of self that, indeed, are considered less trustworthy, worthy of keeping an eye on. So you have a double representation. You might also call these particular shadow sides the sinful aspects, what aspects of oneself you would consider to be shameful and sinful, perhaps for no apparent reasons that you can consciously become aware of at this point in time. It might simply be the remembrances of different episodes in your life, sometimes even in other lives, where you considered certain actions and behaviors to be not so nice; that may contain recollections of guilt or shame.

The other representation in the dream – the woman who seems to have an authority that you will challenge – what do you think that may signify to you?

THERESA: Well, since it was a woman, something to do with feminine energy or feminine aspects. Um, since I wasn’t afraid of her, I didn’t feel that she had any power over me in the dream. Her voice was kind and soothing but I just felt that she had an ulterior motive, so, you know, I really don’t know. I’m kind of at a loss.

KRIS: Indeed.

THERESA: …to think of what she represents.

KRIS: In the second dream – we will get to this in a moment – in the second dream, you are in a locomotive. Any kind of vehicle: a plane, train, an automobile, horse drawn carriage, or horse, any such creature or device that transports you, represents movement of consciousness. Which, in your terms, you could say from point A to point B or beyond. Does that make sense?

THERESA: Yes.

KRIS: There are characters, the Conductor for instance, that you feel is not to be trusted either. The Conductor of the train, would also represent your subconscious mind, specifically as a masculine-type energy, as far as you are concerned. This may also involve some social conditioning as to authority figures and who is in control, and whether they should be trustworthy or not, questioning their integrity. And in this way, because there is a locomotive involved, meaning transportation of consciousness – a direction of consciousness – it is quite likely that you are not yet trusting of the direction you are heading, which is also quite normal.

The younger man in your dreams, seems to be someone you can trust, but somehow or other you become disconnected. That might also represent that you have become disconnected with some aspects of your own self which, again, is quite normal considering the transformations that you are encouraging in your life.

The more mature female in your first dream; do you think that you might have encountered that energy in other kinds of dreams as well? That symbol, perhaps slightly different, yet similar, that you might be aware of?

THERESA: Um, I do remember, a witch-type character that was in a recurring dream throughout my childhood, but there was a lot more fear at that time around that particular character. I wasn’t afraid in this recent dream that I told you about earlier. But yes, there used to be a sort of a witch-type of a woman that lived in a room in a house in my dreams that I was absolutely terrified of, to the point of, you know, complete terror and not being able to move. And that was a recurring dream throughout much of my childhood and young adulthood.

KRIS: Indeed.

THERESA: Other than that, I don’t recall women authority figures in my dreams. I’d have to go back and review my journal. It’s possible.

KRIS: You might indeed notice such an imagery here and there in dreams that carry a particular theme, similar to this or related in some way. Our particular point is, this imagery is to – let us rephrase that – you created that imagery at that layer to bring to your conscious attention that, at some other layer of yourself, you have misgivings concerning communications from these deeper aspects of self; the one that you would consider the wise woman, the crone, which is representative of your own Essence.

And the fears that you recall which seemed quite phobic, looking back at your childhood now, actually do have a kind of legitimacy. There was a time when, in another focus, you were put to death simply because your own lifestyle, your own approach to reality, was different from the mainstream. You were intuitive, in communion with those higher aspects of your own self, as it were, and to save their own hides, other people ratted you out. Otherwise they too could have been associated and not wanting to perish, they felt that it might have been easier for you to take the rap, since you were obviously to the eyes of many, somewhat witchy-like. That left a deep wound in the psyche in such a way that, as a child in an attempt to heal, you reacted out of fear to those kinds of memories and communications.

As an adult, you have the opportunity now to reconnect with those aspects of yourself and not fear that those links or communications would prove to be your downfall. Does that make sense to you?

THERESA: Yes, definitely. And I have been trying to establish stronger links in that way and feeling a little bit thwarted or a little bit held back, not knowing why. So that makes sense.

KRIS: You can sense a kind of blockage in the flow.

THERESA: Yes.

KRIS: And that is quite likely what you are sensing.

THERESA: Yes, interesting.

KRIS: Thus you can do yourself a great service whether you utilize EFT or what you have learned through the Yuen Method or otherwise, perhaps even utilizing your dreams, suggesting that your dreams bring you deeper healing to free up these blocks of energies.

THERESA: Okay.

KRIS: That might prove to be the key that you are after. One very interesting side note here is that indeed many people desire this deeper connection with Source and then when it actually does show up in their lives, they become flustered and sometimes fearful and shut the process down because sometimes many actually operate on the idea that they will desire it but it would likely not happen. And then when it does, you could say to use an old expression, it throws a wrench in the works because it is real. Does that make some sense?

THERESA: Yes, yes it does.

KRIS: Thus, by reestablishing a good and healthy connection with your dream self, you can also begin the reestablishment of a connection with your own deeper self, your own Source self. And the process can be simple enough that you do not have to strain or give yourself a psychological hernia to achieve this.

Possibly the best approach is one that is rather laid back – knowing what you are concentrating upon, knowing that what you concentrate upon, you get. And being able to take action and respond appropriately when the Universe comes calling in response to your invitation, because if you do send an invite, what do you think can happen? If, for instance, you send an invitation to a Saturday evening dance? What do you think may happen?

THERESA: You’ll get some people signing up.

KRIS: Indeed. Someone will, and is bound to, respond. And similarly, if you invite Source into your life, Source may say, “What a great opportunity has now come” and show up at your front door.

So what do you gather so far from those two dreams? What other connections are you making now?

THERESA: Well, you mentioned that the Conductor is my subconscious, and again indicating, as we’ve discussed, a certain distrust of that part of myself. And the woman in the other dream, the one who was trying to so-called hypnotize me, perhaps represents my Essence. And that there’s a deep distrust of that because of what you had said from the previous incarnation or other focus, in regards to having more direct, a more conscious communication with Inner Self kind of led to a bad outcome, but that now I don’t have to worry about that in this particular focus, which is nice. And that the train represents the forward movement of consciousness. And the friend, the male friend – oh gosh what did you say he represented – I can’t remember that. I’ll have to read the transcript. And that’s what I remember.

KRIS: Indeed. Utilizing this and revisiting the recording or the transcribing afterwards can assist you in triggering other kinds of associations. Working with your dreams in this kind of associative manner can bring about most fascinating results. Not necessarily that they will show up immediately, but more so like when you decide to put something on the back burner of your mind, you concentrate on something else, and then what you have put on the back burner begins to boil and bring about results, all on its own. Because that energy creates associative links and feeds you information.

And one of the reasons why the subconscious and even Inner Self are appearing as less than trustworthy to you is simply because when you were more or less punished for being different, you did hold grudges, but not so much towards those who persecuted you as much as you persecuting yourself for not having more or less followed mainstream thought where, perhaps, you would not have been put in this precarious situation. Does that make sense to you?

THERESA: Yes, very much so – resenting my own inner self for leading me down a path that led to ruin.

KRIS: Indeed. And it is no one’s particular fault, not even your Self. In retrospect, after that particular life, you did come to terms with many of those issues that seemed so troublesome for a while after your passing. And in this particular focus now, you have simply become aware of those inner actions, seeking a way to make sense of them and to grow from the experience. And it has now brought you to investigate in this way, bringing about insights, which is par for the course as a result of your inquiries in this direction. Does that make sense to you?

THERESA: So you’re saying that the actual resentment that I was feeling towards my own inner self were worked… I worked a lot of that out during a period of time after that focus ended.

KRIS: Indeed – in between states as it were…

THERESA: In between states. Right. And that now I just have to… I’m just bringing that to my awareness just to become more aware of it and to be able to move forward from that. Not so much that I have to work it out, but now I can use it to my advantage. Is that what you’re saying?

KRIS: Indeed. Finishing up the healing as it were and gaining new insights even from that. Especially the perspective that you can and have the abilities to heal any kind of emotional memories that might be part of the knowledge that is obviously within the subconscious.

If you look back at the dream of the train and the Conductor, you might also notice that there were feelings that, since you might not find the Conductor so trustworthy, the direction the train is heading to or towards could also be suspect, though the train itself was not necessarily problematic but some of the things that went on in there.

So, yes, you are rounding out this experience, putting it into a perspective where you can learn additional matters, gaining more wisdom. Especially knowing that you are now, more so than in any other focus, you are now developing awareness that you do create your experiences and the perceptions are yours. They are like your children. Your children will behave in a manner that you demonstrate to them, correct?

THERESA: Yes.

KRIS: Similarly, the manner in which you take in beliefs and create your beliefs, literally causes the effect of specific situations coming up in your life. What you put into your mind or awareness is what you get out in your consciousness.

THERESA: Yes, you get what you focus on.

KRIS: Correct. Please feel free to continue.

THERESA: Okay, so um, that’s very interesting. So, in order to get more trust of self, more trust of the unconscious and more trust of Essence or Inner Self, you are recommending, first of all, just simply developing a better rapport with my dreams and my dream states and to reflect upon these dreams and see what imagery – these two dreams that we’ve talked about – and see what other imagery comes up in association with that, put it on the back burner and see what percolates through.

KRIS: Indeed.

THERESA: And then to also focus upon enhancing that connection and communication with my Inner Self. Focus more on that and make the invitation and see what turns up. And then when something turns up, to allow it and take action and accept it. Is that basically it?

KRIS: Very nice. And at the same time develop a deeper sense of trust in your entire being, knowing that you always head in the direction that you need to head into the most. That the events and occurrences in your life present themselves exactly as you have designed them. And what you extrapolate from them is also what you need to understand at that time, though what you might extrapolate next month out of revisiting a situation, will also be what you need to extrapolate at that time. So you are doing the right thing for yourself all the time.

THERESA: Yes, although I can certainly feel for that focus that got betrayed by her friends for being different, for being in a stronger communication and then being put to death for that. I can certainly sympathize with someone then saying, someone who experienced that then saying, “Well geez, you know, if I’m always moving – if my Inner Being and my consciousness is always moving in the direction that I need to go, I didn’t really like where I ended up in this particular life”. So then I have to reconcile that that particular person contributed to that with her perceptions, and led to that.

KRIS: Indeed and this adds to the reconciliatory actions that you can build upon. So no specific actions need necessarily be discounted as invalid, they all are, especially when you can understand, though this might be in retrospect, but understand why you undertook specific actions and experienced the results of those actions after the fact. Because very often if you knew consciously, ahead of time for instance, of a particular set of actions that would appear to betray your trust in yourself, you might try to find ways to avert that situation.

THERESA: Certainly!

KRIS: But it is the resultant introspections and perceptions you gain from it, that you are after. Does that make sense to you?

THERESA : Yes, but in my conscious mind, you know, I obviously don’t fully understand it because I would think that… sometimes I have this thought that Essence comes down here and takes on focuses and animates and creates us – physical beings – knowing that there is going to be a certain amount of suffering involved, and sometimes I question that. Sometimes I question… why, what responsibility then does Essence have for imposing suffering upon physical beings who, by and large for the most part, have no idea what’s going to happen to them or why, but when Essence takes on this type of an existence, this kind of a project, it knows full well that there’s going to be a lot of negative experiences created.

KRIS: Indeed, it can be fully aware that there may be challenges and strife, and we do wish to be clear here, that it is not that Essence comes down necessarily and may put you in a precarious situation, as much as, it is you that is Essence that takes on the role of a focus personality as such. Focusing on the specific set of actions to the exclusion of a larger perception, the resultant actions can be sometimes frightening, perhaps even like or appearing to be similar to a roller coaster ride [coughing]. Give us one moment please.

THERESA: Yes, take your time. [Pause]

KRIS: Indeed. Now, it is not necessarily that Essence or your Source puts you in jeopardy as much as you agree to pursue a path of action even though it may appear at the physical level that there is strife or even some form of suffering involved, as much as there is an agreement on your part to go through a particular process.

And very often the retrospective results can give you insights that otherwise you would never have been able to attain had you taken another step in your perception. If, for instance, you are subscribing to belief systems of suffering, then it may seem that suffering must somehow or other bring about its own kinds of rewards. And you may discover that in belief systems of suffering are also very much aligned with or attached with religious belief systems. That somehow or other, the key to some kind of salvation may involve suffering to one degree or another as decreed by some supernatural being because that is par for the course in these kinds of belief systems. Do you follow?

THERESA: Um hum.

KRIS: And, many individuals in these situations, if they were to see, for instance, a patch of broken glass and a patch of warm beach sand side by side – the beach sand a delight and even a sensual experience to go through – but they are mired in belief systems of religion and suffering, might reject the warm sand outright thinking that walking across broken glass will benefit them and bring them rewards. Do you follow?

THERESA: I follow. I… consciously myself would walk on the warm sand [laughing], but we’re talking hypothetically, yes, there are people, I can see that, who would do that.

KRIS: And there are even people who would consciously agree, yet would create situations in their lives which would be tantamount to walking on broken glass, whether it is in relationships, finances or otherwise. But consciously [they] would agree with you that they would prefer to walk on warm sand, but the belief system that they hold designed the contours and outlines of their experiences and, being unawares of this, they might not understand why they are not walking on warm sand as much as they would like to.

But developing an awareness, and even a deepening of that awareness, may make them realize that they do not have to subscribe to the broken glass reality any longer – they can terminate that and give energy to walking on warm sand, and quite likely derive as much outcome. Depending upon their particular belief orientations in that way, they will then act accordingly. It is not unlike when someone receives a letter from a lawyer that states that one should govern oneself accordingly. In so many ways, the beliefs that one holds make the laws, and individuals act accordingly – they govern themselves accordingly.

THERESA: And changing your belief at the conscious level doesn’t necessarily mean that you’ve totally changed the belief, correct?

KRIS: Some people may indeed claim that consciously they don’t believe in that, but their actions, again, will tell you otherwise.

THERESA: I see.

KRIS: So look for the actions and the outcomes of the actions. And, if the actions no longer bring you where you want to go then it is possible to, now, developing awareness, revisit the laws that govern your actions.

THERESA: Right. And change not just the belief, but watch your actions and change the actions.

KRIS: Indeed, and that is something we have presented on a few occasions as an expedient manner to recognize where your system beliefs are parked. And if your actions tell you one thing but your conscious mind tells you another, then go with the actions, begin transforming the actions, begin acting in a manner you want to act. And whenever you encounter that inner resistance, which will be your legal system voicing its opinion, you can tell then that you have struck pay dirt; that you can start making the modifications that will bring you more consistent desirable outcome, because that is where your actions are leading you. And by negating your subscription, as it were, to those belief systems you no longer wish activated and focusing instead upon cultivating desirable outcomes and instilling a subscription to those beliefs, you take away energy from undesirable towards desirable. Does that make sense to you?

THERESA: Um hum. Yeah, it’s a process that’s going to take time.

KRIS: And it may not necessarily always take the greatest amount of time because that may also be part of perceptions or beliefs, but overall it is a journey that can bring an incredible sense of fulfillment knowing that your life is not something that is lived on autopilot and that there is nothing you can do about it – like a speeding train and no brakes.

THERESA: Well, I had one of those dreams too [laughing]. Only it wasn’t a train, it was a car.

KRIS: Indeed. And then you can become more conscious that you have a say in your life, that you can govern it, you can direct it. That is the underlying message in films like What the Bleep and The Secret.

THERESA: Yes.

KRIS: Though they do not necessarily indicate that it can be and bring about a certain amount of work.

THERESA: Right. Well, I’ve been studying all those concepts for a few years now and trying to apply that, you know. And doing exercises and spending time working at it, so definitely that’s where I’m… that’s my goal; is to reach that point where I’m consciously creating my experiences rather than unconsciously creating them.

KRIS: And you may also have recognized that your life is not what it used to be.

THERESA: Oh no. My life is actually pretty good, not perfect, but yeah, pretty good.

KRIS: Developing that kind of awareness and cultivating the resources to continue enhancing the development of that awareness, indeed causes the awakening that is the result of that awareness. In other words, letting you know that you set the terms and the boundaries of your life and no one else. Please continue.

THERESA: Okay, I don’t think we have very much time left. There is a short little dream here. Do you want me to tell you that one?

KRIS: Indeed.

THERESA: It’s a part of a dream, I couldn’t remember… In part of the dream I was exploring a room, a large room that had interesting artifacts in it. There was a woman who looked like a priestess in this room. She opened her heart center by pulling down a zipper – as if there was a zipper in her skin – and then she pulled out an internal organ and stretched it out in front of her. I don’t know what it was, it might have been her heart or something else. This organ produced a creature, and I’m not sure if it was a snake or a dragon. It sort of was dragon-like or snake-like, this creature. And she gave it to me. [upon waking] I thought the creature was ugly. Um, and that’s it. That’s all that I remember of the dream.

KRIS: Also a most significant and deep dream. What are your particular beliefs and perceptions towards sex, sexuality, sexual energy, sexual expression?

THERESA: Well, it’s changing. I think for most of my life this is something that I have fairly well rejected and suppressed. Um… being, I embraced celibacy for most of my younger life, following a spiritual path, with a guru, which was bhakti yoga, the path of the heart, sort of a Hindu… – based on the Hindu religion. And then I got married in my thirties and I’ve been married for fifteen years and, you know, we certainly do have sex, I’m not celibate any more, but never really opened up to that side of my nature, so it was always suppressed. But lately, in the last six months or so I’m experiencing a lot of change with that and I’ve been studying Tantra and adopting a much more – I’ll say healthy – but what I want to really say is loving, approach, an accepting approach towards my body and towards sexuality. So there’s a lot of change happening right now in that area – a very positive change. [One sentence snipped]

KRIS: Indeed. The priestess also represents another aspect of the overall Source Self. The serpent-like creature is a well-known symbol, apart from Christian doctrine which considers it somewhat unmentionable, but in almost every other culture on the planet, this symbol represents sacred sexuality.

THERESA: Oh interesting!

KRIS: The kundalini transformed by heart energy from just its more basic instincts to its higher evolutionary principles which includes spirituality because you are a spiritual being experiencing a human adventure. So by transforming that kundalini energy through the heart, exactly as you are processing it, turning old shames and guilts, as we hinted at very early in this session, into something that is recognized as sacred and divine within you, you are utilizing heart energy to heal perceptions. Does that make sense to you?

THERESA: Yes! That’s exactly what I’ve been trying to do with my Tantric studies, is heal all of those things and trying to do that in a very conscious way and trying to apply, you know, more loving energy, like I said towards my body and towards our sex life. And to spiritualize it as well. Yes.

KRIS: May we inquire as to the group you had participated in, in your younger days?

THERESA: Oh, it’s ah, the guru’s name is [details withheld].

KRIS: Indeed. We are aware.

THERESA: Yes, that was the group. I was with that group for seven years.

KRIS: And it would have left an undeniable impression upon your perceptions that you are now working through.

THERESA: Yes, it did, and I am, yes. I feel really good about it.

KRIS: Indeed, and you should. Now, with that, we will return Joseph to you and we thank you for your lovely consideration and discussion.

THERESA: Thank you very much. I really appreciate it.

KRIS: Indeed.

[End of session]

Unfolding the Personality

August 26, 2007

Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Ellen Gilbert (Kwaa’Ji)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on August 26, 2007

Roll Call: Serge (Joseph), Mark (Philip), Dorothy, Kathryne, David (Elohim), Barbara, Nick, Lorraine (Saggan) and John (Sohars)

(7:51 PM)

KRIS: Indeed we trust that you are comfortable and we thank you for your consideration. We would enjoy continuing an expansion on the previous discussion of the human personality. We believe that you might find this interesting.

JOHN: I already do.

KRIS: As previously mentioned, the personality itself is far more than the few traits and characteristics that you display here and there in response to various situations or conditions of your life. Your personality structure actually contains an enormous bank of varied traits and characteristics most of which you do not utilize in this lifetime, many of which are also shared with other focuses, all of which still does not necessarily comprise the sum total of your Essence or Self, because Self is still and always more than the sum of all of its parts.

So this personality structure is a dynamic force that you utilize as Essence in order to define specific journeys and specific adventures on that or any human journey that you undertake. And all of the traits and characteristics that you normally display are in themselves but a small amount of that which is available to each of you. In so many words, you have much more personality at your disposal than you usually are ever aware of and during the course of your lifetime from a very early age, you define certain amounts of traits and characteristics that you utilize to establish markers which in themselves end up defining what you call your personality.

However you, as you grow up in your world, your familial environment, your peers, your educational system, your schools, your parents, your work environment, etc. all of these factors are utilized by you not to determine your personality as much as you utilize them, these factors, to help define certain aspects of your overall personality, which makes a very big difference contrary to what many of your own psychological studies and textbooks describe concerning your personality as being absolutely defined by the experiences you undergo as you grow up. The main difference is that your consciousness is almost never taken into consideration in almost all of the studies that are supposed to define what the human personality is and is all about. Do you follow?

(Yes)

If consciousness were taken as the factor in all of these situations, the understandings that you have of your personality and of your abilities in these ways would be greatly increased. Your abilities to tap into your resources, into the abilities of your unconscious mind would be much greater than anything you have been able to experience up to now in your life, in your social structures and in your understanding of your selfhood and who you are. Does that make sense so far?

LORRAINE: I’m not sure. Are you saying that if we consciously realized how little of what we use of….. no…. if we consciously were aware of how little we use compared to how much there is, we would be able to tap in more and more –

KRIS: Indeed, that is how we have said it.

LORRAINE: And conscious, so –

KRIS: Indeed. You would be conscious of much more of who you are.

LORRAINE: So the idea is to expand my consciousness in order to be able to –

KRIS: And to develop your awareness.

LORRAINE: Yeah… consciously.

KRIS: Indeed.

LORRAINE: But does my subconscious know all this already?

KRIS: Indeed.

LORRAINE: Okay, so does that mean if I can invite my subconscious to help my conscious to support expansion that will be one of the many ways I could expand?

KRIS: Perhaps. The point is first to develop an awareness of your habits, mental and otherwise, and by developing such an awareness you begin to understand firstly that your reactions and actions within the world are based upon choice in every condition, in every circumstance, in every event. Even though you might not be completely aware of all the varied choices you make during the course of one day, still, choice is the active ingredient in everything that you do.

Some of these choices function automatically within the capacities of your subconscious, but by becoming aware, consciously aware of what you do and perhaps even why you decide to do what it is that you do, you might indeed find that the world first of all is not such an incomprehensible place and neither is it a place that must be treated as if it were frightening, as if life itself would swallow you up at any moment. Nor is life something that you must endure or suffer in any way, shape or form and instead, life is something that you form on a continual basis; created, formed out of the contents of your choices.

And that again can constitute the difference between night and day in terms of awareness, firstly because, as we have suggested elsewhere, it eliminates playing the game of the victim. It eliminates or negates the energies you would otherwise spend engaging the roles and the belief systems of victimhood and even of duplicity to a great degree, thereby freeing yourselves and making available to yourselves large amounts of energy not otherwise available to you because those energies are engaged in maintaining those various belief systems of victimhood and duplicity.

And by developing this kind of an awareness, you can also discover that your very apparent “simple” personality is actually one expression of many of the personality’s factors and aspects. And in terms of nullifying or negating energies of victimhood and duplicity — which actually limits your own potential and keeps you in a loop or rather a hamster wheel like pattern where you are constantly on the defensive — you can develop those aspects of your personality that would otherwise not be able to take the stage front and center because your energies would otherwise be pre-occupied with playing the dramas involved in victimhood. Do you follow so far? Does it make sense to you?

(Yes)

LORRAINE: I’m not a hundred percent sure.

KRIS: We will continue developing. In this way, when your energies are freed from supplying the dramas involved in victimhood and duplicity, you can continue to unfold other areas, other aspects of your persona that can be utilized to your advantage, to your benefit in a variety of areas: creativity, of relationships, even of understanding of yourselves towards the world. All of these things are areas presently in your society likely much in need of more development.

The human personality as you have come to know it and as you think you know yourself, is quite like only a few instruments within a symphony that are being utilized and played whilst the rest of the instruments in the symphony are all waiting for their cues to come active, to come to life so that you can hear the complete composition and similarly with the human personality you have at your disposal a great deal of creativity that for many of you has never been pursued.

And think of all of the different instances, perhaps as you were growing up — a young child, an adolescent, or even a young adult — all of the instances where you dreamt of being someone. Perhaps as a boy, someone would have dreamt of being a fireman, a policeman, perhaps a deep-sea adventurer, an explorer in uncharted areas of the world, perhaps a doctor, or so many other different areas of exploration. Even as a girl, many of these same areas would apply, and as you grow older, it seems to you that all of these were simple dreams that came and went, never to entice you with their magic again. And that is one area where you can start tapping into the great reserves of energies now available to you or in many other areas that you never considered possible after a certain amount of time. Perhaps some of you thought of or dreamt of being a writer or anything else that has all fallen by the wayside. Does this make sense to you?

(Yes)

All of these particular possibilities can still be tapped into, can still be explored, perhaps not in the same fashion as when you were a teenager, but from another perspective. But that they can also and still be tapped into today, tomorrow, the day after and in this way demonstrate to you how these untapped reservoirs of energies can be made practical and even change your life today. Perhaps today you might not be able to be a ballerina or the great writer or a fireman, or even a politician, but you may, at one time or another have dreamt of being and even though those particular roles seem to be beyond your reach, the energy is not.

These energies are still mapped within your personality structure, even though you never became the ballerina or the singer or the writer or the performer that you may have dreamt about many years ago, your human personality is structured in such a way that there is still a development that follows through in what you call probabilities that are all tied into the personality structure that is your own and these can be — these energies, this potential, this creativity — can still be brought about into your own present reality experience and quite likely transformed into energies that can kick start for you perhaps a new beginning for yourself, perhaps can start new creative ideas, can open up blockages of energies, can even be utilized to bring about a deeper sense of nurturing and healing into your own being.

And it is energy that will never be wasted but it is energy that can be put to good use even today, even if it was only a dream that you entertained decades ago. And again, though you may have dreamt of being an actor, an actress, ballerina, a dancer, a performer many decades ago, it does not mean that you have now become what you dreamt of, but it does mean that you can have access to the energies to bring transformations you desire and want into your lives NOW. Is that fairly clear?

(Yes)

LORRAINE: So, I can’t… like, I never studied dancing, so I’m not going to be a ballerina even if I thought so and I’m a little old to start that one, but there may be others that I’ve dreamed of that I could still tap into and they could still be a reality.

KRIS: And even if they are not the reality that you dreamt of many years ago, the energy itself, that potential, that thrust is still available, that impetus to be is still available and the energy can be used to transform other areas of your lives.

MARK: To inspire.

KRIS: Indeed. You can utilize that energy to pick your life up a notch or two.

JOHN: May I ask a quick question?

KRIS: Indeed!

JOHN: You used the word “duplicity.” What do you mean by duplicity?

KRIS: May you take out the dictionary?

JOHN: The reason that I ask is because our dear friend Elias uses that word in a particular way, having to do with making value judgments of good and bad, but the more common meaning is basically to be sneaky and lie, or being something less than true….(leafing through the dictionary’s pages)….Duplicity….

KRIS: Do not be afraid to speak up.

JOHN: All right. This is “Duplicity,” folks: “A contradictory doubleness of thought, speech or action, especially the belying of one’s own true intentions by deceptive words or actions; the quality or state of being double or two-fold”…. Okay, well that’s not how Elias uses it….You are saying basically presenting one idea, whereas in your heart having another idea.

KRIS: And, in so many ways, it is not unlike placing value judgments upon situations or others or oneself. Do you not agree?

JOHN: Well yes….yeah, sure, because if you’re being duplicitous in your terms, it means it’s because you’ve made a value judgment about what’s good or bad and you want to be good even though you think you’re bad.

KRIS: In so many ways, indeed.

JOHN: Okay, good point. All right. Thank you.

KRIS: And it is excellent that you have brought it up.

LORRAINE: Could it also be manipulative in the sense of…. because I never really paid attention to the meaning of that word, so this is an opportunity for me to learn (Chuckling)….Could it also mean that I have a certain intention about myself, but I don’t want to let you know it, so I’ll mislead you so you don’t get near that. That’s duplicity….?

KATHRYN: Self-protection?

LORRAINE: Yeah, whatever the conscious intention is, it’s in a way, I guess as being judgmental here, which I guess is what you said also –

MARK: You’re still presenting something other than is factual or is truth, so to speak.

LORRAINE: So in a way it’s dishonest, right?

MARK: Either being dishonest to yourself or dishonest to another human being.

JOHN: You’re not being innocent and open.

KRIS: When such situations are developed, it actually creates a narrowing of your own energies to such a point where eventually you need to de-sensitize yourself to what you feel because, at that point, even your own feelings give you away to yourself. Thus you must shut down your own feelings. Do you follow?

LORRAINE: No, I would think about…. if I were….

DOROTHY: Little Mary Sunshine who’s really hurting inside and can’t look at the hurt inside so she presents Little Mary Sunshine to the whole world, that has to shut down her own feelings in order to keep up the facade of the happy, joyful person.

LORRAINE: Isn’t that also what they call a lie by omission, where you’re not lying by saying things that are untrue, you’re just leaving out the truth, not sharing enough, so again –

KRIS: These are all different shades and they usually center around what we have termed in the past “value judgments” because you determine within yourself what is acceptable and not acceptable and when anyone does that, they also begin to determine within others what they figure is acceptable and not acceptable and that leads to other complications of the personality in such a way that very often you encounter individuals who will tell you what is the righteous way to be, whilst they themselves do the opposite. Then you get into “Do what I say, do not do what I do, because what I do is not what I say.”

LORRAINE: Isn’t that also manipulative, then?

KRIS: The worst manipulations are done by the individual on himself or herself, so though it may appear that others are being manipulated, in truth, no one can be manipulated unless they so choose.

LORRAINE: Well, if I don’t know that person isn’t telling me the truth and I believe what they’re saying and it’s not, then I’m being manipulated.

KRIS: Only if it affects you in a specific way, then you have your own reasons to put yourself in a situation where people appear to be manipulative.

LORRAINE: Aha, so it’s my choice to draw that kind of person to me.

KRIS: Indeed.

LORRAINE: And the kind of experience that goes with it.

KRIS: Correct.

NICK: You’d like to believe in what they’re saying, you find people that will reflect what you want to believe in.

JOHN: And don’t forget that you telepathically….you know it all anyway!

KRIS: And this is very important. Is there such a word in the dictionary? (Group laughs. John had stumbled over the word “telepathically.”) We are being….

JOHN: You’re having fun!

(Laughter)

KATHRYNE: Now my daughter calls that “telepathetic”!

(Group cracks up)

JOHN: That’s very good!

KRIS: All in all, your human personality structure is in itself an expression of a much larger structure that is expressed and displayed within the context of Essence and the larger structure follows thread throughout all of the various focuses. And this because even though it is often considered that the personality that you display is merely a by-product of your environment — your social, cultural environment, your family environment — and everything that affects you as if somehow or other you are formed as a result of those factors. That can only apply because consciousness itself is not considered a factor in any sense.

Once you throw in this extra factor, factor “X”, consciousness, then it literally flips the equation around and you need then to consider that the personality that you have, that you have developed, and you utilize family situations or any other condition of life to bring about a specific product that you call your personality. And that personality is banked on a larger reservoir of dynamic forces or energies that supply the entire thread of Essence throughout time and space, time and space not being an influence but rather another tool that you utilize to define the dynamics of your personality. Again, this puts you in a different situation.

If you take all of this into consideration and you apply the very idea that your consciousness is the prime factor in the development of your personality and that you have utilized the family environment that you grew up in, the social and cultural settings and everything that you experienced in your life as an additional means to define and refine the kind of personality lens that you wish to develop in this lifetime, it puts you in the driver’s seat. It puts you SQUARE in it! In the driver’s seat.

And that makes a very big difference in the way you can understand what life is about for yourselves. In other words, you are not the victim of all the events and conditions and circumstances that you have come across in your life, but instead you created those particular conditions specifically to explore the dynamics of your personality and the way you could refine it as a specific lens to give your consciousness a unique slant on the reality that you create. Does that make sense to you?

(Yes)

NICK: Are you saying a personality, creatively, playfully — whatever the word — is dependent on our imagination? However we imagine we want to be we create it, we create a personality from what we imagined it to be.

KRIS: The imagination is the medium through which you test drive all of this. Then when it manifests within the context of physical reality, then you go back into your imagination and consciousness and make adjustments, you fine tune, you edit and you determine what it is you wish to keep and what you do not wish to keep.

NICK: But how can we forget about that? We think our imagination is everything, but as we get older, they teach us “no, no, no, not to do that,” but when we pick a profession, it is a part of our imagination.

KRIS: There is nothing in your world that could exist without the imagination within the context of your present civilization. Not one invention. Not one technology.

NICK: People just have to imagine their thoughts, everything they want to create.

KRIS: Indeed, so do little fingers.

LORRAINE: And many have died for their creativity.

MARK: You wouldn’t even be able to eat if you wouldn’t first imagine yourself eating.

KRIS: You would not be who you are were you not able to imagine who you are.

NICK: The funny thing about imagining, we can see it constructively or we can see it — I hate the word destructive, I’d rather use deconstruction — if we imagine sicknesses and fevers and cancers, we can also imagine it within ourselves too, and we imagine what it’s like to have it. If we’re that afraid of cancer, and we can imagine through our fears and … [Lorraine interrupts.]

LORRAINE: And the opposite is true, to imagine good health.

KRIS: It can be said that whether you are right or wrong, you are always right.

NICK: We’re constructive people, but when we’re not being constructive, instead of being destructive, we’re deconstructing.

KRIS: And still you are being creatively constructive. It is inevitable. You cannot NOT use your imagination. It is impossible, just as it is impossible for the beaver to not beave.

(Group laughter)

NICK: (Trying to be heard above the laughter and joking comments) It’s all about love. To love.

KRIS: And that is your prime motivator. You, each of you, desire to find the kind of combination of traits and characteristics within your personalities that will lead you to experience the utmost you can in a loving way. You experience challenges as you go along when, as a young child you begin to be told, “Don’t be silly, it’s just your imagination. Don’t be stupid! Simply forget about it, it doesn’t mean anything,” and so on and so on and so on. Eventually you begin to believe this which is another part of your own collective, creative challenges that help define other aspects of your personality.

NICK: We start integrating into the cultural ideas of reality.

KRIS: That is why at this particular stage in your human evolution you are approaching this, what we have referred to as a Renaissance of consciousness. As more and more people become aware of what motivates them, what drives them, what choices do they make and why do they make those choices? What are their preferences? Then things change. Shifts occur within the individual consciousness and when a shift occurs in an individual’s consciousness, the world literally becomes a different place.

It is no longer a simple matter of surviving in a hostile environment where after all these years. Your life will still be stolen from you. Do you follow? It is instead a wonderful playground, a playground beyond even the realms of your limited imagination but at least you have a starting point that reality begins with you. Your reality begins with you and literally IS what you make of it. You get out of it what you put into it. The input sensor IS what is in here.

NICK: Its incredible how guilt plays such a major part in how much you want to [muffled words] from your belief systems and what you can imagine.

KRIS: That is part of your challenge coming from a rather severe religious belief system. You are collectively, all of you, slowly moving away from the kinds of systems that tell you WHAT to think, WHEN to think it, HOW to think it, and WHY to think it. Thus, you discover something about yourself: that you CAN THINK! And you can think FOR yourselves and BY yourselves and it is not the end of the world, but the beginning of the world! And indeed, when you awaken to that kind of a realization, it is the beginning.

NICK: In that sense, going back to what you’re saying, is that pursuing things away from that narrow way of thinking is also getting closer to God, because you are getting closer to yourself.

KRIS: Indeed and as you become aware, then the very notion that you are the life determined by an external supernatural force makes less and less sense and indeed the only supernatural force within each of your lives is —

DOROTHY: Me!

KRIS: Indeed. Yourselves.

(Others pipe up and say, “Me!”)

MARK: You’re all wrong! It’s me!

(Group cracks up laughing)

DOROTHY: [To Mark] Well you’ve got the loudest voice!

KRIS: What is the time?

MARK: 8:35.

KRIS: Then perhaps a small break.

(Kris withdraws and a short break ensues)

JOHN: (Summarizing Kris’ presentation so far) Here is what he says, and I just thought of a cute way to say what he says, although I am glossing over some details: Psychologists think that our childhood experiences and our family life when we were young is what causes our personality, but what Kris is helping us to understand is that the kind of personality that we want to have in this lifetime is what causes our childhood experiences and our family life!

(Laughter)

LORRAINE: So you’re saying it’s the reverse!

JOHN: Exactly!

(Kris returns at 8:56 PM)

KRIS: Now does that not put an interesting spin on what your life is all about?

(Yes)

Because it determines one thing that the determining factor in your life is YOU. Even if you are so young as a physical form that you are unborn yet, that you are still a fetus, that all brings down the issue of choice: what you have chosen, WHY you have chosen. There are many people who read metaphysical books and after reading a few lines or perhaps even a few chapters, they close the book and say, “Now I know why THEY are the way they are. It is their choice.” And they go about “It is your choice, it is your belief; it is your choice and your belief.”

But why didn’t they, the others, individuals, yourselves, why did YOU choose the family, the school systems, the entire gambit of your experiences? And the results show themselves in who you are becoming so you need not scratch your head and keep asking yourselves “I don’t understand why…” Look at what your life is! Look at who you are now and who you are in the process of becoming and that will give you a very clear idea of why you have done things such as take birth in this family, over and above another family, why you have taken birth in a family with so many siblings – or not – why you have brought into your life these friends and peers, these adults and authority figures.

All of the people in your life, they are considered definitely a factor in the forming of who you are, but YOU have drawn them into your life. Why that individual and not this one? Perhaps both were sitting side by side but you drew that one to you and not the other and so on and so on, because you are that dynamic force that determines everything you do in all the factors in your life. You are that energy. Does that make sense? This should also give you an inkling about something else. Can any of you offer an idea? And you will get a very nice “indeed”!

LORRAINE: (Laughing) What a motivation!

KRIS: Indeed!

(Riotous laughter)

NICK: Are you referring to the family, the ones we chose?

KRIS: We are specifically referring to what all of this may indicate to you.

NICK: Well, some of my family members are going through certain questionable periods, so it obviously reflects what I’m going through and how I’m seeing things in myself so if I’m too harsh on some of my family members, if I change my perception of them, then I will start seeing them differently, so I have to start believing that my perception plays an important role in how I’m seeing them. If I don’t like it, I’d better change it.

KRIS: And first and foremost, changing your perceptions about yourself would be then the place to start because then, automatically perceptions from others change. Change the lenses that you wear and the world changes to reflect the new lenses. So change your perspective, your perception and you have a different world.

NICK: And if we don’t it’s because we believe in them so much that it becomes unquestionable.

KRIS: And that is all the more reason to question.

NICK: Yeah.

KRIS: Anybody else would care to comment?

DAVID: Creativity is awesome.

KRIS: Indeed.

JOHN: It suggests to me, Kris, that since we chose, or, we are the energy that chooses all of these events and conditions of our lives, that to me ends up meaning that who I am is my choice.

KRIS: Indeed.

JOHN: Who I will become.

KRIS: And what does that imply?…. It implies, then, that no one else is truly capable of influencing or exerting any influence upon you to determine who you are outside of yourself. You have done that all by yourselves very nicely.

KATHRYNE: Indeed.

MARK: (To Kris) And you get an “indeed”!

(Laughter)

JOHN: Well, he had the right answer!

KATHRYNE: And this would also go back to what you did at the Lotus Mind workshop that you can go back to any event in your life and change your perspective and therefore change your outcome and also change who you are.

KRIS: Indeed you can definitely change your perception of anything that has occurred in your life in such a way that the present outcome also reflects those changes because you are not limited to time and space, but that time and space, as we have hinted at earlier, though very briefly, is also one of the tools that you utilize to help mold your personality. You need that arena of time and space to concretize your personality within the expression of your body. That is where time and space itself, all meet. Any questions?

LORRAINE: Yeah, I’d like you to repeat that.

KRIS: You will have to endure the pleasure of listening to the recording.

LORRAINE: Thank you.

KRIS: In so many words, nothing in your life has ever happened, is happening or will ever happen without you already determining whether it was advantageous or beneficial or helpful in some way, past, present and future. And out of all of it, what you do, you always find ways, when you become aware you find ways to extract the gold. That is what is important and that is for each of you individually. You are, in some ways, each like a prospector, going to the ancient river bed and panning for gold. But each of you can and do find the gold, but you must first realize that you are the prospector.

LORRAINE: I was thinking maybe we’re the river with the gold in it.

MARK: Or we’re the gold with the river flowing over top of us.

KRIS: Any way you look at it.

LORRAINE: Or all of them.

KRIS: To the river, to the water, to the gold…

NICK: It’s about searching, exploring, discovering…

KRIS: Indeed, and to the river, to the water, to the gold itself there is very little differentiation until the prospector sorts out what is gold, what is fool’s gold, and what is sand. In some ways, then, as far as consciousness is concerned, as far as the Earth itself is concerned, you are that conscious aspect of the Earth. You are that particular portion of consciousness that has developed the representations of a conscious mind and a conscious mind is quite a unique fabrication, and we must define our use of the word “fabrication.” Not as in poor imitation, but in construction creation.

That is why you have all engaged yourselves for so many experiences, to develop, refine and enhance this property of the conscious mind into a greater awareness, because it is through those properties that the universe and ‘All That Is’ gives itself a new perception. So you are, in some ways, a unique characteristic of consciousness. You have engaged to develop this conscious mind idea. It is an idea construction. It is unique in that no other particular species of consciousness has engaged itself to such purposes as you have decided to do. It is a unique experiment in consciousness, one that will continue to be refined and enhanced for many, many cycles. Does that make any sense to you at all?

NICK: The difference in that sense is that we are freer to explore our probabilities, whatever we can imagine, we can explore it [muffled words] contained in several conditions, like a plant or a dog or whatever, we have been given that freedom of consciousness to explore probabilities, whatever we can imagine.

KRIS: And with an extremely focused approach, whereas outside of that particular focus the notions of time and space and even dimensions does not exist per se, that everything occurs simultaneously. Thus the development of your conscious mind gives you a unique approach, out of all consciousness, to create such a focus that you can through the creation of time and space isolate unique events, circumstances and conditions from the inner realities into what you call the outside world. And that requires a great deal of dedication. It requires a great deal of intestinal fortitude because you play with concepts that sometimes even frighten you. You play with the concept of death, murder, and other atrocities and utilizing your conscious perceptions, you determine how much control you want to have over those situations. Does that make sense?

MARK: Aren’t all experiments in consciousness unique?

KRIS: They each are. This is a very unique one, more so than many others.

MARK: And you’re saying that this will take place or expand through many cycles, yet the Earth only exists in one.

KRIS: No one ever said that.

MARK: Well, it’s in physical….

KRIS: There have been many Earths.

MARK: That’s sort of what I’m getting at.

KRIS: This is one particular aspect of the project.

MARK: And through other Big Bangs there could be other Earths in completely different experiments that still pertain to physicality.

KRIS: Indeed. These also exist simultaneously in a different kind of time and space, each of them, hundreds if not thousands of them, yet you consider them probabilities, but yours is unique as far as your own perceptions are concerned.

MARK: We could have a square Earth, a triangle Earth, a crystalline Earth.

KRIS: And make certain that there are plenty of sides, in case someone falls off the edge.

(Laughter)

And as we have suggested some time past, when there is sufficient belief in a thing, the beliefs make it so. So to some people in your past the Earth truly was flat, and everything about human cosmology within those contexts were experienced in exactly those terms or within the terms of the beliefs, so in some ways, yes you did have a flat Earth.

MARK: I understand that.

KRIS: You should have used a [unintelligible].

(Laughter)

Now then, with that in mind, we will leave you to your lovely considerations and perceptions and we thank you for your time.

ALL: Thank you, Kris.
(Session ends at 9:14 PM)

Kris Radio: Giving Away Your Authority

August 23, 2007

Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Lisa Q. Pratt (Lauromar)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on August 23, 2007

RANDY: Good evening, welcome to thatradio.com, it is 7:00 with and it is time for Kris radio.

MARK: Good evening and welcome to Kris radio here on thatradio.com. My name is Mark Bukator and I will be your co-host and this evening. And also co-hosting this evening is…

JOHN: Good evening everybody in, out there in radio land and also in Skype land, in fact hello to the whole universe. This is John Hawkins, very, very happy to be with you again this evening and we are here with our dear friend of course…

SERGE: And that would be me! Thank you. This is Serge speaking.

MARK: And here we are once again, Thursday night, August 23rd, beautiful evening… well actually a little humid here but… I’ve some reminders for you all. There’s the upcoming Halifax workshop called “The Original Goodness”… “The Power of Original Goodness, the intent of love and compassion.” This workshop will be held Saturday, September 22nd, 2007 at the Dalhousie University in Halifax. Time: 10am to 4pm. Cost is $100 before the end of the month. As of September 1st, the price goes up to $120 per person. And if you want more information on that, you can contact, or you can go to our website: krischronicles.com, K-R-I-S chronicles or you can contact Teresa at tsmart@handsmiths.com. (Mark spells it out) Teresa’s in Halifax and she’s organizing… Teresa’s phone number is area code 902-435-1331.

Also, we have an upcoming workshop here in Toronto “The Happiness Project” October 13th, 2007. And it’s at the Ramada Plaza Hotel, in the Frontenac Suite, 10am to 4pm and that’s $80 per person. And once again, you can go to krischronicles.com for more information.

SERGE: And that’s where you could sign up for it and meet us at the door!

MARK: Also on our website, something new, once again something new. As you have probably noticed, our website is changing. It’s being updated, much cleaner, easier to use look, it’s much easier to use; but Serge today put up another induction, another 20 minute induction on positive self talk as opposed to negative self talk. Why don’t you tell us about that Serge?

SERGE: Well it’s a follow up to the one that Kris did last week which is titled “Negative Self-Talk.” This one is “Positive Self-Talk and Self-Appreciation.” And from what I understand of it, it’s a very good idea to have had use of the previous one on negative self-talk before, because it does follow-up and expands on it. It’s also about 19 or 20 minutes and it’s available for $5.99 on our website on our “products” page, instant download.

JOHN: It sounds to me as though Kris is kind of enjoying doing these little, these little capsule presentations. Is that fair to say?

SERGE: I think so.

MARK: He loves to talk. He loves to talk. He likes to be let out (chuckling) he comes out to play. Why don’t we talk about the Consciousness Mentoring Institute for a little bit? Basically, what the Consciousness… CMI as we’re calling it… is a group that is utilizing Skype and they plan on talking to Kris every other week starting in September through December. Some people are… it’s basically a course, really. And some people are utilizing this to …so that they can go and form their own groups and therefore expand the Kris chronicles and the material. And some people are just using it for their own development and, which is a wonderful thing. But Kris has plans to speak every other week through Skype worldwide, we’ve got people signed up from Malaysia…

JOHN: Oh really?

MARK: …and all over the world.

SERGE: And there’s also, I just realized I have to let Anya know there’s somebody from The Netherlands interested as well.

MARK: If you are interested in joining the CMI groups, you can e-mail momentum_team@yahoo.com. Once again, (Mark repeats the e-mail address) and you will receive a reply.

JOHN: Yes, Anya put up a lovely posting describing that on newworldview.com today, and it’s very exciting. She made it very clear that …I think there was some confusion in the beginning but the idea is that it’s really an extension of… in my understanding, an extension of Kris’ intent and I see it as a kind of a, kind of a ripple effect where… I mean there are only so many people who can actually sit and talk to Kris. Now Skype greatly enlarges and thatradio too, I mean let’s not take anything away from what we’re doing right now… but certainly that circle is greatly extended by the technology of Skype. But in addition to that I think that there’s a potential for another layer of ripple, ripple effect, in that the people who are attending this Consciousness Mentoring Institute program over the next several months will be in… from what I understand, will be in a position to then mentor other people…

MARK: Exactly.

JOHN: …around the issues that Kris has been discussing. So…

MARK: If they so choose.

JOHN: Well yeah, I mean it’s a possibility. I mean the truth is that we can, we’re all mentoring everyone we meet every, you know, all the time.

MARK: Yeah, true.

JOHN: And in fact and during the last radio show I think it was, Kris pointed out that when we as individuals, when I as an individual come to understand something of having to do with the manipulation of consciousness at that deep level, then my physical body, I mean now this sounds a little bit amazing but my physical body actually takes on the capacity of a communication device. The fascia tissue and the heart tissue have a crystalline quality that allows them to broadcast so that, I mean talk about mentoring, we’re mentoring at the cellular level all the time.

MARK: And Kris has also talked about the importance of groups and learning in groups, it’s just so much, I want to say “better” but it’s, that’s not the word, but..

JOHN: Richer, richer.

MARK: That’s… that’s a good word, “richer.” But when you get into that group energy, it just magnifies, and of course you’re talking to other people, you have interaction and different perspectives which really increase your experience.

JOHN: That’s certainly been my experience with the groups here in Toronto. And as I say, there’s only so many people who can come to Toronto every Sunday night.

MARK: Exactly. My living room will only hold so many people.

(Laughter)

JOHN: So it’s a good, you know, this is really in a sense the next logical step. And I think that we’ve managed to fill the necessary space? (Chuckling)

KRIS: Indeed we trust that you are comfortable and we thank you for your consideration.

MARK: Thank you.

KRIS: Now before we move towards the planned discussion for this evening, we would like to offer a gentle reminder concerning what you call the shift. And many different ideas are being sown here and there concerning this shift that this will happen, that will happen, the other thing will happen. And all of these things usually point to an external event or situation that is supposed to occur, that will then be defined as the shift.

And though all of these ideas and conjectures are interesting in and of themselves, the main point of the shift has little if anything at all to do with what is going to happen, in the outside or external or physical world. What will occur in that particular field of energy is a result of what is already begun within your own selves, within your own perspectives.

And of that is where the treasure lies buried in so many words, in your perspective. And as your perspective shifts more and more, it creates that momentum, that peak point, then allows for an acceleration just as we have described in a radio show not that long ago. This is simply a reminder that the shift is an entirely inner experience. It is within your perspective that it occurs, and one of the crucial elements that leads towards the acceleration, that inner momentum, we spoke about last Sunday evening, concerning moving outside the stream or flow of your own power, of your own presence, of your own being.

When you begin to find that he or she or they or it are responsible for the events, conditions, circumstances of your life and especially for the way you feel. And that particular discussion we offered as a helpful assistance to recognize when you have stepped outside of that particular flow of your experience and you therefore experience a disconnect and fall prey to your own belief systems of victimhood and duplicity.

Thus by recognizing when you move into a mode of accusing or faulting others for the way you feel and you recognize that you seek to make him, it, her, they responsible for the state of your being, then you can be assured that you have relinquished your authority and out of a certain kind of fear, you seek to make others responsible for your state. Does that make sense?

MARK: Oh yes.

JOHN: Uh-huh.

KRIS: As a follow-up to that, there is also an old adage that you have, we believe that you call it “woulda, shoulda, coulda.” Does that sound familiar?

MARK: Yes it does.

KRIS: That is a further expression of the same kind of state of a victimhood and duplicity. “If I would only have a better job, if I could find the perfect mate, I should be able to be happy” and so on, and so on, and so on. There are millions of permutations and equations that come up to the same interaction with playing the victim, with accepting the state of your victimhood as true. Whilst in reality, the only thing that is true is that you have stepped outside of the state of your being.

Fortunately you can recognize that you have just done this. So whether you recognize that you have just used he, she, they, it, woulda, coulda, shoulda as a means to explain why you are an apparent victim of events, circumstances, conditions, even of yourself. You have the necessary means and the innate awareness to recognize your present state which is an undesirable state. Not undesirable because we say so, undesirable because it keeps you in that loop and keeps increasing the dramatizations of your victimhood.

And having the awareness and the wherewithal to recognize that you have stepped out of your own flow of being, you can step back into that desirable state as easily as you stepped out of it. And in that way, stand your ground, responsibility being all your own for the perceptions you have engaged to manifest the situation you are dealing with, and the minute you do, you leave behind limited and extremely narrow problem-solving modalities in such a way that you return to that desirable state and can open yourselves up to a more productive, enhanced and even superior problem-solving modality.

One that is free and can tap into infinite fields of possibilities to give you new perspectives, new perceptions for you to recognize that you were never the victim in the first place, which is part of the solution you are seeking. And in this way, experience all for yourself what it means to recognize that you have sufficient abilities to transform the condition you have set up for yourself. And this in no way implies that the entire dramatization will be resolved in 1.5 minutes but at least you know that you have reclaimed your power, that you are once again rooted in your being and can effectively resolve your dilemma. Does that make sense?

JOHN: Yes, nicely stated.

MARK: Oh yes.

JOHN: Beautifully put.

MARK: I’ve been playing with this actually since Sunday. And I catch myself saying that a lot, utilizing he, she, they and it, and it’s amazing how often in a single day that we do this. And I’ve sort of juggled those words around. Instead of he, she, they, it, I’ve changed it saying she, he, it, they, so I could make a lovely little acronym. (Chuckling)

And when I catch myself utilizing it, and then I can sort of shout that acronym in my mind and cause myself to laugh, out loud even. And it changes my whole day, it changes my perspective on the situation and I go from rage to laughter to being able to deal with the situation and solve it, to the point where now people are complimenting me and saying “well how are you dealing with this? I would go berserk! And you’re… you’re so calm!” (chuckling) I think it’s great!

KRIS: You may simply offer them that you use a very big shovel.

(Laughter)

KRIS: Simply bringing your awareness into that zone, recognizing that the moment you even bring up the idea that someone other than you is possibly making you feel whatever it is that you are feeling should immediately alert you to the potential that you have to reverse the situation, that you can transform your present undesirable state into a desirable state. Are there any questions from the two of you?

MARK: Nope.

JOHN: No, I don’t think so, not right now. I can hear, I can hear Myrna in my mind asking this question though, so I’m gonna be a surrogate for Myrna. We spoke in a little tiny bit in generalities here. So would it be possible, I mean you know the kind of question Myrna asks, could we have an actual…

KRIS: You believe we do?

JOHN: Yes.

KRIS: Indeed. Proceed.

JOHN: We… could we have an actual concrete example, like for instance, I am traveling down the road of my life and something happens and I stop what I’m doing it and get into a very bad mood and say “well dang it all, those people, the he, she, it and they are really making a mess of my life here for me.” Now, just how to get from there back into being rooted in our being.

KRIS: As we have described, recognizing that the moment you point a finger towards him, her, they or it as the source of your situation should immediately alert you as we have described, that you have just shrugged off whatever responsibilities to your own actions you have taken, wanting to make someone else be responsible for the way you feel, for your perceptions, your perspectives, and no such individual can be found.

Thus by recognizing that you now have the opportunity to step back into the power of your being, into the moment, into the present, into who you are, you can easily abandon all or any idea that you hold that something or someone else must therefore have the answers that I seek because that is what you do. When you make someone else responsible for your situation or your feelings, you are also making someone else responsible for the solutions to your challenge, and there is no such individual. The one who is responsible is you. You have the answer. By recognizing that first hand, will give you an immediate shift in perspective.

JOHN: A-ha! And perspective is the very nub of the matter.

KRIS: Indeed because it is all the result of perspective, your perspective. The world, the physical world is a concretization of your perspective. Whether that includes your beliefs, your convictions, your ideas, your thoughts, anything and everything else, it is yours. Does that make sense to you?

JOHN: Yes, thank you. That’s very, very helpful.

KRIS: Any other inquiries?

MARK: No.

KRIS: Then what is the time?

MARK: Oh, it’s 8:30.

KRIS: Then perhaps a very small break might be called for.

MARK: Indeed.

(Musical interlude break)

RANDY: Yes, welcome back to thatradio.com. You are listening to Kris radio.

MARK: Welcome back, we’ve been chatting with Kris over “She, He, It and They, Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda”. A great little conversation there in giving away our power and how to catch ourselves doing this so we don’t keep doing that. Any input John?

JOHN: Yes, actually when I asked him for an actual technique of how to get out of that, he added a new wrinkle which I thought was lovely. You see I’m used to the idea of giving away my power, vis-à-vis what I am experiencing now. “Oh, you know, he, she, they, it, have made my life hell and I’m unhappy about that.” But he added an interesting layer, he said put aside… oh first of all, the way you get out of that is that first of all you recognize that you’ve done it. You get back into your point of power and the way you do that is by accepting responsibility for what’s going on in your life and how you feel. But he then said something very interesting: many people, myself included, sometimes think not only that he, she, they, it put me in the situation but that in order to get out, I’m going to have to get help from he, she, they or it. So that not only did they put me in here, but they’re gonna have to get me out.

MARK: Yeah.

JOHN: And so putting aside that idea as well and saying “okay, I’m the guy who put me in here and I’m the guy, and the only guy who’s gonna get me out.” Also now, accepting those ideas automatically changes your perspective and that’s the key.

MARK: Yeah, that is. And it’s a matter of changing that she, he, it or they to I. He talked about that. I wasn’t sure if that was on the walk or the international session, but he did mention turning that into an I. “I feel this way because I did this.”

KRIS: Indeed in that you are correct. Now the idea is not shifting blame from others to yourself, you are neither to blame and there is nothing that needs to be blamed on anything. That is not the point, nor the issue at all. The entire point of such a process is to recognize that you have the answers and the solutions and you can get there easily, much more easily by recognizing that your own perceptions have generated the situation you find yourself in.

And if your own perceptions have allowed the creation of that event or situation or challenge then does it not stand to reason in that way that your own perceptions can be turned around, shifted in such a manner that the resolution to your dilemma also is manifested. And it cannot appear if you continue to seek it through the blame and the guiltying of others, making others guilty and responsible for your situation as well as the resolution to your challenge or dilemma. Thus the key is that you recognize the event is created by yourself, and then that way you have an immediate access to all of your powers and abilities to shift that perspective, that perception in such a manner that the solutions show themselves. Does that make sense to you?

MARK: Yes.

JOHN: Absolutely. In fact I made a tiny little note here that just helps my own understanding of it. It’s helpful for me to realize when I’m in a pinch that not only did my perceptions create it but they did it effortlessly in ways I don’t understand.

KRIS: Indeed and often simply shifting that perception. And we do find it most humorous that when a so-called nasty situation lands at your doorstep, the usual knee-jerk reaction is to blame someone else for it. But when a marvelous situation lands on your doorstep, you do not seek to make someone else responsible for it now do you?

JOHN: No, no, nope.

KRIS: So if you can bring all of that under one roof, under the recognition of your own responsibilities, for the abilities of your consciousness, you would indeed grow in leaps and bounds in terms of awareness. Any comments or observations?

MARK: I think that’s pretty clear.

(Pause)

KRIS: You do realize that you are creating dead space.

(Chuckling)

JOHN: Well we don’t want that.

KRIS: You want filled space.

JOHN: A living space.

KRIS: Space filled with your words of wisdom?

JOHN: Yes.

KRIS: Your important inquiries and every other nicety you can dream of.

JOHN: Well the kicker for me, in what you’re describing, which really takes a lot of the burden of creating my own reality off of me consciously is… (phone rings) that’ll be the phone.

MARK: You created that.

(laughter)

JOHN: I’ve just got to, I gotta get this out. The fact that I created the problem effortlessly and in ways I don’t understand, means that when I accept the responsibility for my abilities in consciousness, then that means that I can create the solution to it effortlessly and in ways that I don’t understand. (Chuckling) Oh we’ve got a phone call.

KRIS: Indeed!

JOHN: Hello!

MARK: Salute! Hello!

(Dial tone)

JOHN: Oh, we lost the caller.

(Phone rings, lots of “hello” going back and forth and discussion about what could be wrong and how to get the connection working)

KRIS: In the meantime, perhaps you can

RANDY: Hello?

CALLER: Hello?

JOHN: Oh we got somebody.

MARK: There we go.

JOHN: Oh goodie!

(More hello going back and forth)

JOHN: Hi, can you hear us, we can hear you!

(Pause)

MARK: Turn down your speakers on your computer and just listen to the phone, there’s a delay on the line.

(John’s in the background saying hello over and over, and another pause)

MARK: Anyway Kris, maybe you can…

JOHN: Well, we don’t seem to be able to… sorry caller. It doesn’t seem to be working very well but there you go.

(Another pause, background discussion to resolve technical issues with the phone)

MARK: Callers, when you, if you do phone in, please be sure to turn down the volume on your speakers or headphone sets and just listen to the phone because there is a delay on the line. We’re gonna try this one more time.

RANDY: Are you there?

ANYA: Hello.

JOHN: Hi! Can you hear me?

ANYA: I can, I can hear somebody, well actually…

JOHN: Hi, it’s John, just ask your question, we can hear you.

ANYA: Okay, I’m asking the question, can you hear me?

JOHN: Yes.

ANYA: Okay, here is the question. The positive self-talk induction that Mark and Serge talked about before… (Cuts out)

JOHN: Well you know what I… (John thinks the call has been disconnected)

MARK: Could you repeat your question?

ANYA: Okay.

JOHN: Oh good.

ANYA: Okay, the… (Cuts out)

JOHN: This sounds like Anya, is that right?

ANYA: Okay, I’m asking my question… The positive self-talk induction that Serge and Mark talked about earlier, how often do you recommend listening to the induction, and is it better to listen to it before going to sleep or it really doesn’t matter.

KRIS: To paraphrase someone else, it matters not. You may listen to it before you go to sleep, you may listen to it in the morning or you may listen to it in the afternoon or you may listen to it in the evening. We do not recommend that you listen to it four or five times a day, but perhaps on a regular basis, once a day for a few weeks. Until you begin to notice in your own thought patterns and in your own behavior that you are manifesting now new habits, new thought patterns, new behavior geared towards a desirable state as opposed to a previous state you would have considered undesirable. In that way you give yourself the opportunity to sow seeds of awareness.

By listening to it at least on a regular basis for a few weeks, it is as if you are watering the plant, giving it air and sunshine and allowing it to grow, to take root within your own subconscious programming so that you can then set up a different kind of belief structure. Such a process can be most beneficial, especially that many of your lovely species indeed find themselves in need of developing patterns of positive inner dialogue and more self-appreciation. That also is geared towards a personal shift in perspective which allows you to further recognize and enhance your awareness of how it is that you create your own experiences, how it is that you create your reality.

And if you can so easily and automatically create undesirable state after undesirable state, then indeed, you can just as well, with a little tweaking, begin creating desirable state after desirable state. As suggested earlier, none of these things are a panacea or cure-all. None of these things guarantee that from the first few minutes that you listen to any of these meditative modalities that everything all of a sudden is cheeky and rosy, though it could be cheeky in an entirely other way. But as you implement and practice these things, you will begin to notice new thought patterns and new and even more desirable states than before. The point is that none of these things will do it for you but should enable you then to recognize how you can utilize these simple practices, make them your own and then watch your reality grow.

MARK: Just as an addendum there, the only thing we ask is that you don’t practice these while driving a vehicle or operating machinery.

KRIS: Otherwise you might find yourself in a very definite permanent state.

(Laughter)

JOHN: Thank you, Kris. And thank you Anya for your question and for also being brave about our technology difficulties there and I hope that that answers your question.

KRIS: Now we would like to move towards the intended discussion for this evening which is to lay down certain topics for the next few months or at least the next month or two. Does that make sense to you?

MARK: Yes, it does.

JOHN: Yo.

KRIS: Perhaps then we could move towards laying down the topics for the next four shows.

MARK: Beautiful.

KRIS: Number one: the title is “The Sardine That Stood Out.” Number two: “Creating With Joy.” Number three: “Using Challenges As Creative Solutions.” and Number four: “The Incredible Simplicity of Being”

JOHN: I like that one.

KRIS: These four should keep you occupied.

MARK: They definitely piqued my interest.

JOHN: Yes me too. I think I understand: “Creating With Joy,” “Using Challenges as Creative Solutions,” “The Incredible Simplicity of Being” well “The Incredible Simplicity of Being” is interesting. “The Sardine That Stood Out”, if people were wondering what you know, to questions or how they might want ask a question about that topic, is it possible to have like a sub…

KRIS: A subtitle would be “Utilizing Metaphors for Creative Adventures”.

JOHN: Right. Do any of the others have subtitles?

KRIS: We believe that their titles are sufficient.

JOHN: I think you’re right.

MARK: That’s a good thing cause I don’t have enough room left on my page.

JOHN: Oh fine. I mean I love the creative… the sardine that stood out, but I just sort of, it could go anywhere.

(Laughter)

KRIS: Please feel free to continue.

JOHN: Well this series of topics, would there be an over… (chuckling) okay, I’m pushing, but will there be an overall title for the group of four.

KRIS: It is not necessary.

JOHN: Not necessary. Okay, fine.

MARK: No theme there. Maybe we can turn “The Sardine That Stood Out” into an animated short.

JOHN: Yes! I love the idea of the “Incredible Simplicity of Being” because you know the more I learn about you create your own reality stuff, the more I realize that the less I need to know. (laughing)

MARK: It’s funny now, if Kris has said over the years how easy it is, but how difficult we make it.

JOHN: Yes well I think that though… what we were talking about earlier, the idea is that you create your own reality. And if you get yourself in some incredible labyrinthian maze-like box of horrible difficulties, well that’s some real fine creating that you’ve done there and if you think about it, you did it without ever even pausing and stopping and getting into a sweat or making a list or a phone call, like you just did it completely automatically.

KRIS: Indeed. In the very same way that perhaps at home or at the office you may find yourselves mentally and even physically bored, thoughts flying in and out of your mind, even that you might be rummaging in your box of thoughts for something of interest. And when it does, when you do find that thought, idea or project in which you can become engrossed for an hour or two or three and forget about even your own mind and thoughts except what preoccupies your awareness at that moment, do you not find then that it is as if you did not entertain any other thoughts, worries or concerns at all. Though only thing that mattered was your project and that time therefore flew by so quickly.

(Mark confirms)

JOHN: Yes, I love that feeling.

KRIS: Indeed because you concentrated your awareness on that one interest therefore had no time to give to any contrary or contradictory inner dialogue that could have brought you down so to speak. That could have deterred you from your interest. And notice there is at least one human activity over all others where this occurs without any effort. Can you guess?

(Pause)

KRIS: And it is not making bananas splits. It is when you have sex.

JOHN: Ah, you’re right!

(Chuckling)

KRIS: You become viscerally engrossed in your actions and in that energy, visually or literally. All of your senses are drawn into the energy, into the action, and in that way very little else matters at all. Correct?

JOHN: Yeah well, on a good day.

KRIS: Now we do understand that you would wish that you could have sex all the time but for all practical purposes, your own reality simply does not accommodate that…

JOHN: No.

KRIS: …at least not at that level. But the principle remains that you do have the means to concentrate almost exclusively on one thing to the exclusion of other things. Thus that potential is within you to be so aware of both inner and outer stimuli that anything that would detract you seems to no longer have any relevance at all. It is not paid any attention to, correct?

MARK: Yes.

JOHN: Yep. That’s true.

MARK: Even John tonight at dinner you were saying that the other day at work you were not consciously aware of any other thought other than your work, it just flew right by.

JOHN: Yeah, it’s true, it’s true.

KRIS: Because at that moment, you are then completely immersed in your creative juices. Your powers of creativity are all that consume you.

JOHN: A-ha, yes. It’s kind of interesting to look up an hour and a half later and sort of say “oh you know, oh yeah, here I am, what planet am I on, oh yeah!” But meanwhile you got some good work done.

It’s interesting that you mention the topic of sex there Kris, because I remember two or three months ago you gave us a wonderful session about getting into not really purely erotic, but a sensual kind of mood about ourselves and our world and the reality that we’re living in. And I, maybe didn’t quite understand exactly where you were coming from around that but in the meantime, in the intervening weeks, months, there’ve been two or three occasions when I’ve got up in the morning and it’s been you know, kind of a dull day, not looking real great, maybe I had to do something later I wasn’t looking forward to, whatever it was.

But I have found that if I can, not to put too fine a point on it, but if I can kind of move my attention into a kind of a more sexy, horny, sensual place, then that really does improve… I mean I’m not talking about actually having sex, I’m just saying move into a place of kind of undifferentiated horniness. (Background chuckling) That this actually changes the day.

KRIS: Indeed, generating a sensual mood will definitely perk you up.

(John confirms, and there’s more laughter)

KRIS: Now what is the time?

MARK: Its two minutes to eight.

KRIS: Indeed then. Know simply that reality creation is something you already do effortlessly. It becomes a challenge when you discount and criticize your own self. Whether you do it through your own voice or you do it by calling up programming from your past where perhaps a parent, an authority figure, someone you trusted disappointed you, put you down. Still, that is an aspect of reality creation nonetheless. And that you can shift that in such a manner that your experiences are recognized as entirely your own, that you can do something about it. And the bottom line is, you can do something about it. You can do something about anything. The potential lies within you to do that. It is innate, it is built into, it is hard-wired into your consciousness. So next week, let us explore the little sardine story.

JOHN: “The Sardine That Stood Out.”

KRIS: Indeed, and we thank you for your lovely consideration and return Joseph to you.

ALL: Thank you Kris.

MARK: I’d like to thank everybody for listening tonight and we look forward to tuning in again, tuning you in again next Thursday to “The Sardine That Stood Out.” Goodnight folks.

(End of session)

She-He-It-They Part 1

August 19, 2007

Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Theresa Smart
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on August 19, 2007

Roll Call: In Toronto: Serge (Joseph), Mark (Philip)

KRIS: Your reality and your world have always instilled and inspired individuals, physical and otherwise, to seek answers for the many kinds of relationships that you all have with said world and reality. Which is one of the major reasons why an objectified reality, a dimension where the principles of projection and objectification, are so intriguing as a different means by which Essence and individuals, or their many focuses, can actually enjoy an adventure and an experience rich in details that would otherwise not necessarily be taken into consideration.

Thus, this particular dimension or atmosphere that you consider the physical world – physical reality – is one of the many attributes that emerges from the properties and qualities of your own energies. We have made brief mention over the last little while of your material energies. These are aspects of your energies that are used specifically for interactions with the kind of atmosphere available in this dimension.

The projections of your energies in this particular area, allows for many growth principles, assisting the participants in refining their creative abilities and understanding the underlying intent for their actions, both at the level of the contrast mind and what you call subjective or subconscious or unconscious participation. As we explained on the last radio show with the analogy of the torch or the flashlight, when you turn it on and the beam of light refracts upon a surface of one kind or another, then you can identify that which is lit up. And consequently, in terms of the analogy, that represents your consciousness at that moment. You can very safely assume that the environment, in which your torch is directing the beam of your attention, may therefore contain other similar elements upon which your consciousness is focused. Does that make sense?

MARK: Yes.

KRIS: And with that, you can extrapolate clearer definition of the properties of your consciousness at that time. That also allows you to make a fair assumption, at least to a portion of your consciousness that is surrounding the area of your attention, or the beam of light hitting the wall. However, the greater content of the room that you are in, and even the size of the house within which the room exists, may not be so easily assumed. And any presumptions that you make along those areas are likely to be distorted. You may think, it may be a small house, whilst in truth it could be a large mansion. You may think it has only a few rooms and it may have dozens and even more. Thus, you make use of derived assumptions to continue giving you a fair, perhaps not accurate, but a fair picture of the greater extent of your consciousness. And we only mention a ‘fair’ because it will continue to expand along the lines of your expectations up to and until you suddenly discover that the beam from your torch is no longer sufficient. Then you truly are in a kind of darkness.

MARK: That’s when we start looking for the light switch?

KRIS: Indeed, or anything that will give you some kind of light. And it is in those particular areas where there is more fear than anything else because the territory is completely unknown; that you may not even be able to perceive if you will fall off the edge at any time. And it is those areas that bring both the most excitement as well as the most trepidation, hesitation and perhaps even fear. And it is those particular areas on the very edges of your consciousness-universe that you both desire to discover because of your curious nature, as well as afraid to explore because of your fear of change. And it is even more so when some individuals incorrectly derive or distort an assumption that all the change must happen at once. Then such individuals will cling to everything they know and fight everything they know they do not know, because it is often in those darker areas that the true self exists.

And for all intents and purposes this is not at all a negative assumption or description, but one that can open up the doors to a greater degree of self-awareness than anything you can explore otherwise. Because when it is dark in the corner of the room, you do not know what makes the little noise you hear. And out of your fear you may embellish, magnify and exaggerate all of the fears you have about the dark corners of your mind, and for all intents and purposes it could very well be little more than a little cricket, but in your enhanced fear it suddenly brings up ideas of Godzillas and dinosaurs and great creatures that will swallow you whole. And it is those areas that consciousness, in terms of individuals and Essence, seek to explore. Exploring that which they know they do not know yet.

This is the same underlying principle that launched All-That-Is into its most creative and inspiring adventure of all – discovering all that it thinks it does not know about itself, all the while knowing full well that it knows everything about itself. Does that make sense to you?

MARK: Yes it does. So in other words we’re standing there holding this flashlight, looking at a corner or a wall, and analyzing what we see and experience and making assumptions about what we do not see in the dark areas. And as we start to probe into those dark areas with the light, we find evidence that challenges those assumptions, which creates fear.

KRIS: Indeed. And the biggest boogie man, the biggest creatures to inhabit the dark corners, are little more than the projections of the fears that you fear. Consider, we believe they are called the bogarts, in your Harry Potter adventures. They may indeed feel ominous until you realize that they truly are the projections of the fears that you hold and little more, and upon closer examination, your own fears may indeed be little more than a misunderstanding about your own nature.

Many individuals are wont to lay blame to others for the manner of their own feelings, their observations and their thoughts. And all the while the truth has been temporarily suspended, and that is that it is never about the other. Just like there is never a great monster hiding in the dark corner of your bedroom, but the little voice in the back of your mind that is afraid to move forward and is projected and amplified into the dark corner. And it is those very resistances that represent the most valuable breakthroughs in terms of your human awareness. By bringing those things out into the light, in other words, getting a bigger flashlight and shining the entire dark corner until you realize that the most fearsome creature may have been little more than a flea.

Once that is put into context and once you release your own fears then everything changes. The distortions disappear and you can actually get a much truer sense of your authentic self. And that is the principle reason why you or anyone else engages your material energies in the creation of physical reality. You seek to explore in a loving way, as loving as possible, what you have hidden in the dark corners of your mind. Does that make sense?

MARK: Yes, it does. It’s fascinating. It definitely sheds light on the issue [chuckles].

KRIS: To say the least. But no one can make you understand that the creature in the corner is perhaps little more than a flea, but yourself. And if you blame others, accuse others as the source of the creature in the corner, then you are missing the point, the entire point, of what it means to create your own reality. Thus the key is to look inwardly. We believe we gave an excellent tool called the Triple A Method. That would work absolutely perfectly in such instances.

And furthermore, if you were to blame another for the way you feel, the way you act, and for the agitation and indignation that you may think are the results of your experience with another, then all the more is it necessary for you to recognize the knee-jerk reactions and the habitual patterns that are little more than the foundations of the beliefs that you hold towards yourself and others. And without that story, what would you be? Would you be different? Is the story that you make up absolutely true?

MARK: No.

KRIS: Is there any truth in what another is doing to you or making you feel? And exactly where is the truth?

MARK: Internal.

KRIS: More or less, that is the only place there is.

MARK: Right.

KRIS: In other words, you would have created a situation, perhaps with frustration or agitation or otherwise, to specifically bring one of those dark corners and its foreboding creature directly to your awareness so that you can shed light of consciousness upon it and allow yourself to grow. [loud traffic noises] Do you wish to pause?

MARK: Yes.

KRIS: Now please continue.

MARK: Well now I’m just applying your analogy to events and circumstances that I’m experiencing, even this morning. And what’s being reflected back to me. Beliefs that are being held back or attempted to be held back or…, tells me that there are aspects of self that are nervous about going forward and allowing for the changes that are coming.

KRIS: One of the biggest, most impactful steps that anyone, absolutely anyone, can take in that direction is to recognize that as soon as you open your mouth to lay blame at the feet of someone else, to explain away absolutely anything that you feel that you are made to feel, experience, etcetera, should unleash alarm bells and red flags in all directions, alerting you to the fact that you have just given away your powers and responsibilities. That is a big pill to swallow because it is much easier to say, “He is making me feel this way, he is doing this. She is doing that. They are doing this”. Whenever you get into the mode of he, she, they – perhaps we will create a mantra he-she-they – about this, in any way, you immediately open the floodgates of your energies and give it away, making others responsible for your experience.

And if that does not alert you sufficiently to what you have just done, then you will move into stage two. You will fight, you will demonize the others in any way shape or form to reinforce your victim and blame position. Victims always blame others for anything they feel. When you engage that belief system, it is so wide and far ranging that it may take a great deal of waking up to actually return to the position of being powerful.

MARK Right.

KRIS: When you engage belief systems – if you wish, he-she-they – then you have thereby discounted yourself in every way possible and you may find it is almost impossible to regain your footing because it is such a slippery slope that many efforts to get out of that bottom of the barrel is most difficult to engage. Until and unless you do a very clear examination of the contents of your thoughts at that time, and recognize that you have just completely associated and absorbed into your system the role of the victim, quite likely for the purpose of turning away from that belief system. Does that make sense?

MARK: Yes it does. It’s actually very clear. It’s the whole bruised ego side of the coin, but what it really boils down to is denial and just following the trend that you started. It’s to say that I was wrong in saying he-she-they …

KRIS: It might even be more simple than that. It is not necessarily wrong because it is your experience but what it should bring to your awareness is that that particular path may lead to more of the discounting. And returning to your original power, your original goodness towards yourself, will bring clarity and peace of mind. And we do not know now and have never known of an individual to turn away from peace of mind and seek out mental agitation, emotional upsets and a sense of disempowerment. You might as well perform a kind of personal, psychological harakiri [Japanese ritual suicide by disembowelment] and instead of disempowerment call it disembowelment of self. Does that make sense?

MARK: Yes.

KRIS: So if you practice this for at least thirty days. Every time you catch yourself in the act of repeating the mantra he-she-they, stop in your tracks, look inwards and say, “I am responsible and in control of my reality and I need not deflect or reflect upon others. I know where I stand and I am in my experience because it is mine to have created.”, will bring a great many positive results. You can even add he-she-they-it, all of them.

MARK: AS long as you don’t put the ‘it’ after the ‘she’ because then its ‘shit’. [Chuckles]

KRIS: Wherever you wish to put it.

MARK: Yeah that makes a great deal of sense to me, and it’s very empowering. ‘Cause I do it all the time, we all do it all the time.

KRIS: Indeed, and that is part of the challenge that you set for yourselves – to know where you have created your energy leaks, as it were. Where the dam of your power has sprung a leak. As you well know, patching a leaky dam with a piece of bubble gum invites problems.

MARK: Yes.

KRIS: This simple process, as we suggested earlier, can have a radical impact. You may even ask yourself whether the story you have just created – he-she-they-it – is it true? Is it absolutely true? If it is neither, then it is not a truth, then it is a story that you are telling yourself to attempt to understand your creation. You are simply looking at it from the upside down.

MARK: Right.

KRIS: Thus by changing your perspective you can affect your life in a powerful way. And whenever you look at anyone else or listen to anyone else, and you begin making any kind of put-downs and negative assumptions about anyone, then understand that, again, you have engaged he-she-they-it. And understand that if you can make such assumptions about someone else, then you are making them about yourself, because it is your story. Does that also make sense?

MARK: Yeah, oh yeah. OH YEAH.

KRIS: And that may induce the most powerful resistance and battle of all, that last segment. If what I say and think about another may actually be about myself, then I will resist that with every ounce of my power because I cannot believe that I am projecting my own fears onto others. When you engage the word ‘cannot’ it simply means you absolutely refuse to recognize it within yourself even though it is blatantly visible. Does that also make sense?

MARK: Yes.

KRIS: This is a simple enough process to understand. It is a bit more of a challenge to actually apply. But once you apply it then the whole of your reality can be transformed. And the main reason for resisting this is simple – who and what will I be if I actually change this? Do you have any questions or comments?

MARK: No, I do believe that is very clear and precise. There is definitely a need to take action and do this, catch yourself doing this…

KRIS: And indeed, taking action does not always mean having to run up the mountain, it may mean running inside, taking responsibility for one’s stories, which is where your reality is actually created. It is not created out there until your senses tune into that reality and until you reclaim your original goodness, or goodness to yourself. Please continue.

MARK: Ah, I don’t know. I believe we covered all the bases.

KRIS: Indeed. Then we will return Joseph to you.

MARK: Thank you.

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