The Big Picture (Self vs. Society)

January 28, 2007

Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Ellen Gilbert (Kwaa’Ji)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on January 28, 2007

Roll Call: Serge (Joseph), Mark (Philip), John (Sohars), Myrna (Shara-Leene), Lorraine (Saggan), Barbara, David, Meagan, and Morri

(7:54 PM)

KRIS: Indeed, we trust that you are comfortable and we thank you for your lovely consideration. Welcome old friends, older friends, and new friends!

We have been speaking of late on the subject of meaningfulness and we would like to ask you how do you consider the meaning of your life and the meaningfulness of your Being when it may appear to you that the individual in your modern society is considered irrelevant, even meaningless, in the face of globalization and world economics where the multinational sets up the rules and the individual apparently has no say in the matter.

(Pause)

MYRNA: Is it time for us to respond?

MARK: (Chuckling)

KRIS: As you wish!

MARK: That’s a tough one.

MYRNA: Well, I can go back to a session we had where I would call…..using the word “powerlessness”…..this is going back some time now….

KRIS: Indeed.

MYRNA: And….I’m not quite sure how multinationals and global economy right now are a reflection of myself and I know them to be that….what I know, however, is that my reality is not globalization. It’s my day to day, my moment to moment interaction with myself and interaction with others, and I recall you saying that I cannot control how the rest of the world is, but I can control my own reality in terms of my moments.

And I’m somebody who deals with those multi-nationals in my professional life, and I find that in my moments to moments from the time I wake up until I go to sleep at night, it really doesn’t matter to me what the rest of the world is doing, it matters to me about how I feel in my moments. And that’s the way I’m finding meaning.

KRIS: Very nicely put. Would anyone else like to chime in?

MARK: I would have to say definitely the world in the view or perspective that you just mentioned does frustrate me, but in order to gain my power back, I have to bring it home. I have to concentrate on the events and circumstances of my own day, as Myrna says, the stuff that I’m creating myself and….ALLOW.

But mind you, when it does hit close to home, say the cable company jacking up your bill by two hundred percent –! (Laughs) But I can still deal with that. But it’s bringing it home, it’s bringing it to ME and what’s affecting ME, my feelings and my emotions.

KRIS: Very nicely put.

MEAGAN: For me I think it’s very important for all of us to remember that we’re not the only ones on the planet, or in the world and that there are a lot of other people who haven’t had the experiences perhaps, that some of us had. Certainly we are not the same and they probably have problems with us, the same as we might have with them.

I’m thinking the world…if it could possibly do this….all humans could be…not [as] “one” particularly, but could be in a better place to allow others to be who they are and how they are and live the life that they learned, by also looking at the lives that we’ve learned and allow us to do those things, and I think if we could get some of those systems together like that, we would have a much better world. Personally that’s the way I feel about that.

KRIS: Indeed. We suggested a few weeks back, something about the world. Do you recall that? [Looking and pointing over at John.]

JOHN: Yes, Kris…which was my answer that I was thinking about, you sneaky guy!…and that is when you describe the multinationals and the world being what it is, on the one hand it’s tempting to feel — if you can identify the meaning of your own life — it’s tempting to feel a little out of step, almost a rebel or somehow not really a part of that world, so there’s a feeling of separation….but I recall you saying a couple of weeks ago – “the world is not about the world, the world is about YOU.”

Taking that understanding, I see that the multinationals and the big global economy is ME. That’s an aspect of myself, an aspect of the world I’m creating, and it is meaningful to me, even though it might not know it.

KRIS: The world need not know that precisely, but YOU do. As an individual, you can gain much in understanding that the world IS about you. And we are not addressing the typical hedonistic you, but a more global you, an entirely, completely different tier of you.

If you take a simple moment to pretend that before you, before your eyes, before your mental eyes, you can see the globe as it is often pictured from outer space, a beautiful bluish-white planet, with water and land masses, clouds; and gently zoom into any particular area of your interest and begin to notice that this bluish-white ball in space is actually filled with activities, all kinds of activities.

Regardless of their nature or impact, there are actions all over the planet, both in terms of nature and in terms of animals AND in terms of human beings. There are times when these actions clash, and times when these actions mesh. But there is something else that you might be interested in exploring, and that is that this beautiful globe — where life can actually be very fragile, but still displays itself in numberless ways — and that this bluish-white globe, apparently suspended in space, as it turns on its axis and as it pursues its journey through the solar system, around the sun, and as the solar system in all of its complexities spins around the sun and together in this area of the galaxy journey together through the universe.

And that this little bluish-white ball displays and reflects your entire spectrum of beliefs, convictions, attitudes, expectations, feelings, all artfully displayed through all of the wonderful, creative activities, that all of these activities — some pertaining to other governments, other nations, some pertaining to your own governments, your own nation, and so on — in its incredibly diverse variety, all of these actions together are reflections of the multitudes of beliefs, convictions, expectations, etc. that you hold, that you maintain.

And in order for you to become cognizant of this vast display of beliefs that you hold, it is marvelously, ingeniously projected as the affairs of the world across the planet. And in this way, too, the world IS about you in this particular way. You are not always aware of what it is that you believe, or what some of your convictions are, but human genius has devised a way of helping you become cognizant of some of the beliefs that you hold and maintain.

And the advances in telecommunications can bring you information about events that have now occurred but MOMENTS ago in some other part of the world. And even the type of information itself may reflect some of the beliefs or convictions that you concentrate upon, even when you are not aware of what it is that you are specifically concentrating upon. Does that also make sense to you?

(Yes)

So in that way, the world is still about YOU, the reflections of your own inner convictions. Now, some people may say that they become aware through the news media of terrible conflicts in some other parts of the world, wars, destructions and so on and so forth, and will certainly claim that they do not hold any beliefs of this nature.

On the one hand, that may be partially correct in terms of their CONSCIOUS acknowledgment of what it is that they concentrate upon, but they may also be working out specific inner conflicts that may be too difficult for their conscious mind to sort through. These may be conflicts they have neglected for some time.

And in terms of collectives and co-creation, when there are many, if not hundreds, if not thousands, perhaps even millions of people who also have undertaken to suppress or deny the conflicts within their own nature and psychological make-up, then that does create an intense wave of conflicts that must be manifested somewhere upon the world, must be displayed in one way or another.

Thus when you come across information, news and so on, that may even trigger passionate responses on your part, take a moment to reflect, not upon the bit of news that may have sparked the passionate response on your part, but instead upon the response itself, and notice perhaps the disproportionate passion you have just expressed compared to other responses you may display to other situations.

And examine further its nature, and in this way you might eventually and perhaps even quickly acknowledge that you are not directly responding to world views and events as much as this bit of news triggered an awareness of an inner conflict that you may have neglected and even denied for some time and now it is time for you to acknowledge and address the situation within yourself.

This does not mean that the world event or conflict somewhere else on the planet will miraculously disappear or dissipate, but your own conflict can then be nullified and peace be the new order of the day within yourself.

And in this way, you can easily go about the rest of your day, knowing that through the auspices of consciousness itself and the marvelous, apparently mysterious properties of telepathy, other individuals may also spontaneously recognize that that particular world event or conflict is a means of recognizing their own inner conflict so that they too may acknowledge and address and accept their situation. And the more and more individuals AWAKEN to their own innate healing processes, the more individuals will no longer participate in FUELING those external displays of conflicts. Does that make sense to you?

JOHN: Oh, yeah.

KRIS: So again, something else which we have said many times before: it is not about the other individual, the situation, the event, the condition, the circumstance, or any injustices that you may think were perpetrated against your lovely self, but it is about YOU. And making use of the world and world events as reflections of your own state of awareness can also be an extremely potent tool, correct?

MYRNA: Well, I have an example perhaps, that we can work with.

KRIS: Indeed!

MYRNA: The movie, “An Inconvenient Truth” I have seen just recently and yesterday one of our newspapers showed some of those pictures where our glaciers have disappeared. So this is about me, right? Even though I’m seeing it come at me from all the newspapers and the television and it’s all fear based.

I’m aware that I don’t even want to go there. I don’t even want to spend a lot of time thinking about global warming. I feel guilty because I feel that way. I do what I can in my own way, and in my own life to contribute to my health and therefore the health of the planet, but it’s about my health…..and this is coming fast and furious in my world, all this global warming and greenhouse effect….of course, and Kris, I don’t want to spend a lot of time thinking about this!

KRIS: And we did not say you had to, nor did anyone have to, did we?

MYRNA: No, I’m not playing into it. However I brought it up …

KRIS: We did mention that when you come across information piped in through the media that seems to ruffle feathers and further expose raw nerves of one kind or another, take a moment to breathe in, to center yourself, and to recognize first and foremost, you are not reacting to world events in any way, shape, or form, but you are reacting to INNER events in one way or another, the world events simply being the triggers that may bring this about. Do you remember the “Tissue Issue”?

MYRNA: (Laughing)

MARK: I was going to bring that up!

KRIS: (Speaking over Myrna’s uproarious laughter) How could anyone ever forget that?!

LORRAINE: Sorry, I don’t know about the “Tissue issue,” so I …

KRIS: You may have to ask the tissue lady!

MARK: Myrna.

MYRNA: Another time, another time!

MARK: Maybe during break.

KRIS: But — case in point, correct?

MYRNA: Yes, but that wasn’t about saving the planet, I was pissed off…

MARK: But it was something that resonated above or below Middle ‘C’ – What was the terminology you used there? — So again, with the news, with the media, with the hype, it’s that Middle ‘C.’ It’s how YOU react, the emotions that are evoked.

MYRNA: Ah, that’s a good point. It gets me….I feel imposed upon. That has nothing to do with global warming….it’s an example, okay….I got it….it’s finding my way through all of this in terms of my own path.

KRIS: Now this does not mean that people anywhere and everywhere need to then turn their backs on those issues. These can also be addressed, but first and foremost, know where your position and power and authority, in an authentic way, stands. Know where you stand. Know what is the meaning of YOUR Being at any moment in time and space. In this way, you will never need to feel overwhelmed in any way, shape or form by any of the information coming at you.

And notice as well, not only the type of news bits that you read and focus upon, but the type that you draw in through the media. This should also indicate to you what it is that you are concentrating upon and you can alter the perception. Now it does not mean that we are thus advocating that people simply walk around with their heads in the clouds, but that individuals find a certain sense of balance and know where they stand at any given time.

MYRNA: Your words, the point of power…I resonate with. Yes.

KRIS: It is very easy to be swept away by the constant barrage of information through various news media, but know first and foremost what it is that you are drawing to yourself and why. Do you subconsciously — and we are not necessarily addressing any one of you in particular in this room — that is why we keep our lovely eyes closed –

(Laughter)

BUT, do you subconsciously believe that human beings are an aberration of nature, a virus in its own way, bent on destroying the planet and each other? If you are uncertain, look at the information you draw to you through the news media. That would seem to indicate to you that “Yes! People are vicious creatures, bent on destroying each other and the planet.” That is only a reflection of what? Your truth, not THE truth. It is a reflection of what YOU believe.

And if that scandalizes you, then recognize that you also have the power to change those particular beliefs. And the more of you that do this, the more of you that actually shift the axis of your paradigm towards a central configuration of positive, constructive convictions, then the more this will be reflected in your outer environment as well. Does that make sense to you?

(Yes)

And our guests, you are able to follow?

(Yes)

Do you have any lovely comments?

DAVID: Yes, I have a question: once a month I receive a phone bill, and a few times a decade, there is incorrect information — I’m over billed, so…using these techniques, if I focus upon how the fact is incorrect, that they are billing me for incorrect amounts, am I a complainer?

KRIS: It may indicate something else. It may indicate that somewhere you hold beliefs that such large corporations like to take advantage of the little people and will slip in a few, apparently, entirely honest computerized mistakes to build a few pennies, but a few pennies or a few dollars out of hundreds of thousands of individuals amounts to vast sums of money, correct? So that is what we are meaning. Does that make sense?

DAVID: But, I’m not certain of the correct action for me at that moment.

KRIS: Then you first of all call good old Ma Bell and give her a gentle piece of your attitude to get her on your side and then focus upon any errant, stray, or not so errant and stray thought, and feelings and emotions and attitudes that come to your mind about these big multinational corporations that may like to trample over the rights of the individual. Does that make sense to you?

DAVID: Yes.

KRIS: Then once you can identify the core of belief issues, then you may begin to take corrective measures to change those particular convictions because the physical world is little more than the confirmation of your beliefs. And it is beautifully, INGENIOUSLY crafted for you all to actually take inventory of your convictions, because the world is the confirmation that your beliefs, whatever they may be, are perfectly displayed.

They may not function for you in the way you anticipate, but nonetheless, they are displayed there for you to see in three-dimensional terms. And by making the inner changes, you can gradually begin to notice that your new set of convictions are being confirmed through the avenues and auspices of the physical world. Does that also make sense to you?

DAVID: Yes.

MYRNA: David, many times Kris has helped me to understand that nothing exists in my external world unless it exists here first. And so that Triple ‘A’ that Kris has been talking about, I’ll show you how to access that on the website. The Triple ‘A’ has been really helpful in uncovering some unconscious beliefs that are playing themselves out….in a bill, for example.

KRIS: And since you are apparently practiced in EFT, you should find that our little method of Triple ‘A’ is quite complimentary.

DAVID: Yes.

MARK: Have you ever opened up one of those phone bills and said, “I knew it! I knew they were going to do this!” And, that’s a belief right there, the fact that you said “knew it,” is the fact that it was set up by you.

LORRAINE: You created it.

DAVID: But at what point do you take corrective action?

KRIS: First of all, you deal with the immediate situation. Get that corrected, the extra charges removed.

DAVID: Ask for [words lost]

KRIS: Indeed! Call, utilize, the agency is there for you to utilize. And at the same time, begin the inner work, the inner process. So this is truly about inner process. The meaningfulness of your existence IS an inner process. Your system of civilization at this point in your race’s development reflects the experimentations that you are toying with, that you are playing with, considering that the individual has no meaning, no purpose, no effectiveness in his or her life and you believe this to the point of it being proven and it is manifested out in your world. BUT, it is what we have called…do you remember that lovely word?

JOHN: Oh! A….grafted on an artificial…a…

DAVID: Cog in the wheel?

JOHN: No, it’s not a core belief….it’s a…I’ve forgotten the word….

KRIS: (Pause, then humorously) We are merely smiling.

JOHN: (Chuckling) It’s a belief that we have added on…an artificial….um…ACQUIRED belief! (Chuckling) Thank you for your patience!

KRIS: (Acknowledging) These acquired beliefs often are substituted for the innate realities and truths that are within you already. And when these acquired beliefs are taken to be the real thing, then you have far more problems than you ever began with. The acquired beliefs are little more than houses of cards.

MYRNA: And that’s our experiment, is it not?

KRIS: It is one of them, but do keep in mind that as a species you do not merely do one experiment for millennia. You all have a collective consensus of many experiments simultaneously, and within that collective agreement, so to speak, each individual has his or her own perspective on ANY of the experimentations at any one time. So it is a massive network of powerful experiential models for consciousness, all eccentricities. And you provide — as Essence — you provide all the aspects necessary to deal with the entire gambit of the game and the process. Does that make sense to you?

LORRAINE: Well, we’re talking about acquired beliefs, what other kinds are there?

JOHN: (To Lorraine) May I ask my question [first], because it will actually answer yours?

LORRAINE: Yes, sure.

JOHN: I just wanted to make a comment and observation, Kris….here’s the thing: when you first opened with your description of our lovely planet, the bluish-white sphere floating in space and going about in fabulous celestial harmony around the sun and the galaxy, and the billions of life forms all experimenting and having fun and creating all the fulfillment that is possible here….since THAT is our experience of the world, then that must also be an out-picture, a reflection of deeply held beliefs that we have, and these would be the blueprint beliefs that form the basis of our dimension and the acquired beliefs are different from those….

KRIS: Indeed, acquired truths, as you suggested, are grafted upon and substituted for the real thing. They are synthetic, but the impact nonetheless, is powerful, as powerful as synthetic drugs Do you follow?

(Yes)

LORRAINE: I followed that, but then, what are the blueprints of these?

KRIS: In this particular instance, the one blueprint truth that we are dealing with at this time is that you are meaningful beings in a meaningful universe. We are aware of many, many people literally sucking in their breath at the very notion of this. “Meaningful beings in a meaningful universe?!?

Definitely that old ghost has fallen off his rocker!”

(Group chuckling)

“What do you mean, ‘meaningful beings in a meaningful universe’? SCIENCE shows that we are little more than a mish-mash of molecules and proteins and electrons. We come from protozoa in a swamp and in a few billion years from now all life as we know it is extinct if we do not blow ourselves up first! People stab each other in the back, war is the lifeblood of human existence, people are evil at their core! And Kris almost has the intestinal fortitude to say that you are meaningful beings in a meaningful universe?! What kind of brain-washing is this?!”

WE SAY, not brain-washing, but brain CLEANING! With THREE rinse cycles! (Group chuckling) Now all kidding aside, and all sarcasm aside, that is a basic, fundamental truth: That you are meaningful beings in a meaningful universe, and the universe is meaningful BECAUSE you are meaningful Beings. Everything that you experience, whether individually or collectively, has meaning because you create it.

The point is to understand this notion and to situate yourselves in the position of the mind frame, the zone, that you are meaningful Beings and FROM this perspective meaning is self-evident in everything. You may not intellectually and consciously understand every single item that is meaningfully created by you, but at least if you begin from that perspective of being in the zone of meaningfulness within THIS truth then you CAN see that even if you do not consciously IMMEDIATELY understand the meaningfulness or the significance of an event or situation, you can at least appreciate that it IS meaningful and you will understand its meaning. Does that make some sense to you?

LORRAINE: Yes.

KRIS: Now we ask you: What is more meaningful to you? To stand there, raising and shaking your fist at the sky wondering what the hell is the meaning of this life, or…can you look at the world and even though you don’t understand everything that is before you, you can appreciate that it is meaningful because it is you perceiving your creation. And with that, we allow you a meaningful break.

MARK: 8:45.

(Break and Kris returns at 9:06 PM)

KRIS: Now we trust that you have all enjoyed some meaningful conversation.

(Yes)

This is perhaps another beautiful launching pad: MEANINGFUL DISCOURSE. How often have you wished for meaningful discourse but instead have settled for small talk about the weather, about gossip, about this and that, because meaningful discourse can sometimes generate a certain feeling of discomfort because it would enable you to be vulnerable, to talk about those issues that very often matter the most to you. And we are not saying that finding out what Paris Hilton ate for breakfast truly is meaningful, even for Paris Hilton addicts, but we do believe that you understand what we are driving at. How often have you longed and desired for, craved and hankered for meaningful discourse?

MYRNA: In my case, my whole life.

KRIS: And you eventually made meaningful discourse. Something you CAN participate in.

MYRNA: Yes.

KRIS: And yet there are many individuals who are so reluctant and even afraid to engage meaningful discourse because there is a fear of vulnerability as if somehow or other it would give the other individual an edge or advantage of some sort, displaying some sort of weakness on your part. And again we must come back to our original premise: what kind of acquired truths do you harbor concerning yourself and your needs?

And we make and have always made a distinction between what you want and what your needs are. Identifying your needs can be a revelatory experience, indeed, sometimes a revelation to the individual. There are even individuals who have never considered their own needs, only what they want. And this we have brought up on some occasions, particularly in the metaphysical, New Age conscious creation communities of various stripes. Few people often give consideration to their needs, but instead concentrate almost whole-heartedly on their wants.

MARK: Even to the detriment of their needs.

KRIS: Correct. We simply beseech you here and those who will read or listen to this discourse at any time just to make a small list of your needs. What do you need to make yourselves fulfilled as individuals? What do you need in order to express your meaningfulness? Your present society’s ever increasing displays of marketing and solicitation and advertising are on the path to convincing the populace that what you want is of the utmost importance.

Never mind what you need! Only concentrate on what you want, even if you have to go well beyond your means and acquire inordinate amounts of debt. And that is what the debt system is based upon. Fueling your wants as if this is what you live for.

Is this something you utilize, thus project outwardly to hide from yourselves the meaningfulness of your needs, your true needs, so that you do not have to pay much attention to this inner self of yours, thus grafting more and more acquired truths onto the structure of your convictions. And what role do YOU play in the manufacturing of the industry of acquired truths within your own paradigm?

MYRNA: Kris, I got distracted, could you say that again, please? What was that question?

KRIS: (To John) Can you repeat it?

JOHN: What role do we play in the industry of creating acquired beliefs within us?

MYRNA: Oh, okay, got it. Well, we’re the marketing industry, right? (Laughs)

KRIS: You are the marketers, the proprietors and the consumers.

MYRNA: Yes.

KRIS: And in this light we have a very small tale to tell. And in order to listen to this small tale, you may simply sit very comfortably, feet firmly on the ground. You may choose to keep your eyes open or to close them, as suits your needs. And whether your eyes are open or closed, your eyelids open or closed, a very nice way to listen to this tale is to allow your eyeballs to gently roll towards the top of your head as you listen to the sound of our voice and the tale we are about to tell you.

And as you listen to the sound of our voice and our lovely tale, allowing yourself to relax more and more, listening to the voice, feeling your breath move in and out of your chest, listen to a lovely tale about the Lake of Lost Songs… And in this lovely tale about a people and a world so far removed from history that even in the deepest of your memories it barely registers as an echo across the annals of time and space.

But there is still, deep, deepest within your being a small echo of this tale needing telling. And in this story about the Lake of Lost Songs, there is a people we call “The Folks” in a place we call “the Folkdom.” And these people, the Folks, are a gentle, gentle folk, sometimes they remember a song deep in their hearts, a song that cannot be heard by the ears, but that resonates within the heart of each and every one of them.

There are times when they forget to listen to this song and eventually their lives are in such disarray that they begin the process of remembering this ancient, ancient song, a song unique to each individual whose heartbeats by every heart hears this song and sometimes forgets and then remembers again.

And in this ancient tale about the Lake of Lost Songs, there is a young man from the Folks, and a few of his friends, hiking through the forest and the fields, in a place where few tend to be in… Magical, legendary, a place where people can walk and might even imagine that they hear a song and when this young man one day with his friends was hiking through the heretofore undiscovered field in a great, magical, enchanted forest, he and his friends, going about their hiking pleasures, were suddenly immobilized as a result of the sound, part of a song, a soundlet even, that seemed to come from deep, deep within the Earth, resonate through the soles of their feet and trigger an echo in their hearts.

He and his friends were puzzled and perplexed, not having encountered any such phenomenon before. They thought at first it was merely their imagination, having heard stories of this place in the forest, which was supposedly magical and enchanted, perhaps those stories spurred their imagination into over-activity, but they began to question how can everyone in the group have the same experience?

Being young men they decided to ignore it and continue, but in a few moments again, the vibration through the Earth seemed to course through their feet, into their hearts, this time stronger. So strong, they knew now it could not be their imagination. So they decided to put their ears to the ground and sure enough, each one heard not only a bit of sound, but it had musical qualities as if it was a song that each one heard a different note.

Thus, out of curiosity, out of their backpacks they took small shovels and began to dig, and the more they dug, the stronger the vibrations of the songs flowed through their beings and their hearts, and the more they dug, the more joyous they became and the happier and more joyous they became, the deeper they dug. And eventually after a few hours, water, or what looked like water, started coming out of the ground, out of the hole they dug.

They quickly ran out of the hole they dug, to the edges of it and they saw the hole gradually being filled with the substance like water, but it seemed to be more than water, it seemed to have a life of its own. And each one, drawn to this substance, and each one could tell this was more than regular water, there seemed to be a lot of it, and the more the water rose, the more they realized, they could be in trouble, because the water was coming up faster and faster.

Looking about them, they realized they were nearly in the bottom of a valley and they had to now find a way out, because the water was coming deep from the bowels of the earth, and the more the water was coming, the more magical and wonderful they felt. Running now to the very edges of the valley and climbing up, they began to remember.

They were remembering memories they did not know they had… ANCIENT memories of a MAGICAL place that apparently long ago had been buried and put out of sight so that no one would remember the enchanting powers of the Song and how they realized through these ancient buried memories of long ago buried stories, that this is the Lake of the Lost Songs.

And this lake would feed everyone with magical ancient songs from before the beginnings of time, songs about the birth of stars, songs about the death of stars, and songs about the life between the birth and death of many songs. And they further understood that the songs of the birth and life and death of stars were truly about the songs of their own lives.

And they recognized that now the whole world again would begin to remember those ancient songs about their ancient selves and they proceeded to tell everyone they knew to come and see the enchanted Lake of Lost Songs. And in your imaginings and in your hearts and in your dreams, they are also encouraging you to remember your songs and how your songs portray and describe your lives. End of story, end of tale for today.

And with that, you may feel free to re-open your eyes if you have closed them, to breathe nicely and normally, to be fully aware of the room, and to remember songs that you may have forgotten about. And with that we thank you for your lovely consideration and we wish upon you many sweet, enchanting dreams.

ALL: Thank you, Kris.

(9:33 PM)

Observations are made about Kris’ proclivity of late of becoming a grand storyteller and the depth of meanings that can be derived from storytelling. Discussion turned to globalization and global warming problems and Kris returned at 9:45 PM)

KRIS: Do keep in mind that there are various points of view on these issues. For instance, some people may say, “Not in my reality! The world can go to hell in a hand basket. I do not care because I am focused in MY reality!”

And that, from our perspective, is simply another acquired truth. That kind of perception concerning the creation of one’s own reality is superficial at the most. It says, “I will deliberately pretend that in my reality, everything is absolutely perfect and I do not care about the rest of the world,” and it is an extremely egocentric and hedonistic perception.

It says, “I am so afraid about life that I will build these walls in the guise of informed and knowledgeable perceptions,” whilst in truth it merely hides a frightened individual in an attempt to create a safe place for oneself. Another way of perceiving this is understanding that human beings are participating at all levels of creation.

In your world, the industrialization of the world without due consideration is affecting the environment, but the individual can do something about it. One way to do that is what we have described earlier on. Most people, when they look at someone else, make an assessment in one way about their perceptions concerning the other individual. It is plain and simple human nature to do this, correct?

(Yes)

If you were to imagine or pretend that the entire planet right now is an individual, that you are encountering for the first or maybe more than one time, and you are assessing this individual. Over here there is a war. Over there there is an environmental conflict, over here there is a governmental challenge, over there something else going on, over here something very nice, over there, something somewhat unpleasant in his or her life. As occurs in the lives of many individuals, correct?

(Yes)

Each of your lives has varying degrees of positions and allowances. Certain aspects of your lives are pleasant, others are less, and others still are even less pleasant. And you deal with the entire gambit. Consider then that the planet is such an individual and you are assessing the state of their psychology in this way, observing their challenges, their conflicts, their successes, and so on. And then you go a step further and you utilize something we have described a long time ago: the other is you. The other is a reflection of you, in one way or another. Do you remember that?

JOHN: Absolutely.

KRIS: And then you begin to ponder, “What is that individual reflecting about myself?” In this case, the Earth is the individual that is you. Think deeply, because we are going to leave you there for an entire week.

MARK: (Chuckling)

JOHN: Okay!

KRIS: So enjoy the thinking and the reflecting.

ALL: Thank you, Kris.

(Session ends at 9:51 PM.)

Kris Radio: Heart Song

January 26, 2007

Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Lisa Q. Pratt (Lauromar)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on January 26, 2007

MARK: Welcome to Kris radio on this very snowy day in Toronto, Canada. I’m Mark Bukator, I’m your co-host this evening and I am here with…

JOHN: And I’m John Hawkins, very happy to be back with…

SERGE: And I’m Serge, and we’re at Natradio [now THATRadio] in downtown Toronto overlooking the big business core: CIBC, TT and all the big buildings flashing in our backs.

MARK: It’s really amazing cause we’re in this very nice and toasty environment looking out at the cold, snowy people outside. (Chuckling) So this evening we’ve decided to have an open call-in show and we’re gonna open the phone lines once Kris gets here, of course. He will decide when to open the phone lines. The number to phone when prompted would be 416-204-9723. We ask that when you call, you turn down the volume on your headphones or computer because there is a lag time and you will be slightly delayed. Other than that… when you call in, please give us your name and where you’re calling from, and then deliver your question and Kris will answer it for you.

Last week we had a nice talk on… was it ‘time’?

JOHN: ‘Time for time’ I think is what you called the…

MARK: ‘Time for time’. Rushing and hustling and bustling. We had some really good practices out of that one. We had the one with the touching of the… that point on the hand, that’s hard to name (chuckling)

JOHN: Have we given that a name?

MARK: No. Fortunately your diagram is on the internet on newworldview.com, but I actually put that into good practice just a couple of nights after that radio program. We… I had trouble sleeping and in the middle of the night, I was frustrated and I got up, and I did that exercise and all those pleasant images and emotions came flooding back to me and it just was able to put me to sleep. It was really cool!

JOHN: Well yes, as a matter of fact, while we have just a moment here, I think it’s worth mentioning that on newworldview.com there is a Kris chronicles section and we have put a bunch of the tools that have… Kris has talked about over the last number of months.

MARK: Including the one I just spoke about.

JOHN: Including that one. And so if you’re looking for some kind of inspiration about how to approach a particular issue, you could… you might do very well to have a look through the tools that are available there. They will describe what’s to be done; often with a diagram if it involves… well for instance there’s one that I’m just gonna briefly discuss called ‘The loving touch’, which I use everyday in the shower, personally, and the way that it works is you just simply touch yourself. Now I know this is a…

MARK: Be careful, you might go blind.

(Laughter)

JOHN: You just simply touch your body and be aware, not only of the pleasures of being touched, but also the pleasures of touching, so that it goes both ways. And what I do with that one is that if I’ve got a little bit of a stiff neck or a little bit of an arthritic elbow or whatever it is I think might be going on, a sore tooth, I will… while I’m in the shower, with lots of sudsy soap and warm water… just run my hands over those particular parts of my body and just concentrate on giving and receiving that wonderful loving touch and I find it to be a wonderful experience.

MARK: And to add to that, if you are partnered, it’s very good to touch each other in this way. Or even just go and pay and get a massage. You know treat yourself to a loving touch. It’s very erotic and energizing (chuckling) and relaxing, of course.

The tool box is a great place I think, even tough I designed it, but is a great place to go to research some of these practices and adventures in practices that Kris has given us. These practical applications that you can do during the course of your day to relax you, to get you out of that stressful zone or bring you peace, or calm, or joy, pleasure, and…

Another very valuable one that’s not in there is dream journaling. Of course it’s a well-known fact now that Serge, Kris and I are writing a book on dreams and… but Kris has always pushed me to journal my dreams and that’s what actually enticed me to start the book. But just recently for instance, I had a very powerful dream. Normally my notes are maybe a quarter page. This particular dream has five pages of small print typed and it was very detailed. And after I posted it in a blog, the main feature of this dream was a big tsunami, and I found that after I posted it, a lot of people I knew were also having tsunami dreams and I don’t believe that this is precognitive, but there’s something going on. Whether it’s a wave of consciousness or waves of emotions or what have you. Maybe Kris will comment on that for us a little bit later.

I also discovered by posting that a lot of us newworldview and a lot of us friends around the world are in each other’s dreams. We’re participating together and discovering. For instance when I posted my tsunami dream, Emmy in Barcelona called me up and said ‘I’ve had three recently’ and when she described them they were similar to mine, so that’s something else maybe Kris will comment on for us when he gets here… Speak of the devil!

KRIS: Indeed. We trust that you are all comfortable and we thank you for your consideration. And we did enjoy delaying our ever so humble interaction simply to see how much both of you would sweat.

(Laughter)

KRIS: Making certain there was as little dead air as possible.

MARK: And how would you rate our performance?

KRIS: Excellent! Good sweating!

(More laughter)

KRIS: Now, for the first few moments we would like right now to be a teller of tales, and tell you a small tale. And in this tale, as all good tales are wont to be, it begins with:

In a time far, far away, in a land removed from memory, in a place that even history has forgotten, there lived a people, a people who exhibited a relative amount of peace… A quiet, gentle folk. Their gentleness, their quietness was a natural state for them and these gentle people lived in harmony with their environment, were mostly at peace with themselves and they did have one common unifying factor. That is, deep within their hearts, they could individually and collectively tune into the song.

It was a song that was only played through the heart and it was a song that was unique to each individual. No two individuals hearing the same song and perhaps even several times a day, these gentle folks would all attune themselves to the song. Everyone listening intently to the song within their heart, releasing all upsets disharmonies and gently entering their minds into the song in their hearts.

And everyone’s individual song, though unable to be heard by the person next to them, this song would still rhyme and tune in unison with everyone else’s song. Together, even the finest orchestra could not accomplish the magic of the song. These gentle folks honored the magic of their song because it brought them much peace and contentment and enabled them to experience deep meaning both within their lives and in their relationship with the world.

One day, a small group of these gentle folks decided that it was perhaps in everyone’s interest to not listen to that song but do something else. And they devised mechanisms, marketing, advertising and promotion to sell their idea that one did not have to listen to the song. ‘You simply stop listening’ they promoted. And with enough drilling of this promotion, others eventually begin to think that perhaps this might be a good idea since so many others are doing this, therefore it must be real. And gradually, one after the other, the entire folkdom of these gentle folks simply turned a deaf ear to the song. Not that the song no longer played, but everyone was convinced then, that it was in their best interest to not listen to the song.

After much time, people completely forgot to turn their ears to the song, or that there was even such a thing as the song. And little by little, without understanding why, these gentle folks began experiencing interesting challenges. Sometimes their bodies would not function the way they used to. They began experiencing pains, illnesses and other physical problems and ailments so they began to devise all sorts of means to treat these conditions. And as time went by, even the societies themselves became discordant and out of sync with their environments. The people even began utilizing the environment in ways they would not have in the past, began utilizing the environment as if it were theirs.

Every once in a while, a child would tell its parents that it was certain it had heard a song in its heart. And the parents would tell the child ‘it is only your imagination, there is no song’. And soon the child would believe this and become convinced that any notions of a song was purely imaginative, without reason to exist, and go about living his or her life just like the rest of the folks. Every once in another while, an adult would claim to have an encounter with the song and even profess to speak and vocally express that song. Very quickly a system was developed to cure the adult of these phantasms of the mind.

But over many centuries and even many millennia, more and more people, more and more of these gentle folks, whom by now, were hardly gentle at all, but very irate folks, began to display some memory dysfunctions. More and more, claiming that in their dreams, and even whilst awake, they had experiences with the song. Eventually, so many people began to have these experiences with the song, that groups were formed to study the phenomenon.

At first, it was assumed that these memories were signs of abnormalities but it got to the point where large segments of the population would have to be considered abnormal, and by then, who could tell what would be normal or otherwise. And eventually, after many, many years and decades and centuries, it became an understood phenomenon through much historical and archaeological research that the song was not a figment of people’s imagination. It was something that pertained to each individual and yet no two individuals had a similar experience in every detail. And so much of this information became recognized that it became publicly declared that the song was real.

It was indeed the state of things, the original state before people forgot. And when more and more people were allowed to remember the song, their irritability, their illnesses, their discomforts with life, their despair, soon became replaced with joy, friendliness, cooperation, love and even peace. And once again, people of all walks of life would listen to the song, be fulfilled, and feel a unity with, and harmony with both everyone else and the environment and nature. And so this went on for many centuries, many thousands of years and one day, a small group of folks thought it would be a good idea if people did not listen to the song…

And that is our tale for tonight.

(Clapping)

JOHN: Very nice, Kris, thank you.

MARK: Very empowering. I could feel that song in my heart.

KRIS: Indeed. It may only appear that we strung together a series of words and created a tale. Or is it merely a string of words?

MARK: Or a string of notes.

KRIS: That is for you to discover. Now we believe that this evening there are questions and the possibility of telephone lines to be opened.

MARK: Correct.

KRIS: Or at least THE telephone line can be opened.

MARK: Yes.

KRIS: Therefore you may invite people to call.

MARK: The number is 416-204-9723 and the phone line is open.

KRIS: Indeed then in the meantime, feel free to ask questions you already have here.

MARK: How about commenting on the tsunami dreams that people have been having lately.

KRIS: The individuals involved, and there are more than you have been in contact with, some do not even know that you exist, that are experiencing these types of dreams in this moment, are actually dealing with discovering their own inner potential. Discovering how they can ride the energy of their being, whatever that energy appears to be doing in the dream. And for the most part it seems that there is flooding and some devastation involved but that is the point. It seems, and your emotions may even reflect some of your fears along those lines, but it is indicating that there are changes on the horizons for the dreamers and at the same time those changes have to do with their own and your own persona as their waves of energy are directly related to your own self. It is why you named it ‘The Tsunami of Self’

MARK: Correct.

KRIS: Does that make sense?

MARK: Yes it does. And it’s also important to note that from my ego’s perspective in the dream, because I did have multiple perspectives in that dream, the ego’s perception felt fear. But I noticed from the other perspectives, or at least one of the other perspectives that there wasn’t any grief or death.

KRIS: Indeed, because the fear is merely related to the fear of change, because the psychological landscape is being transformed by the tsunami, a crashing of consciousness, the awakening of the individual in one degree or another. That is what a tsunami brings: both the appearance of destruction as well as the harbinger of large changes.

MARK: The dance of Shiva.

KRIS: In one way, yes.

MARK: Tearing down of one belief structure to build up another.

KRIS: Tearing down impractical belief structures…

MARK: Right.

KRIS: So that a more practical, beneficial and advantageous belief system can be erected in its place.

(Phone rings)

MARK: Are you saying I have impractical belief structures? (Jokingly and chuckling)

MARK: I believe we have a caller. Please stand by.

(Pause)

MARK: Jo from California. Hello Jo.

JOHN: Hello Jo.

JO: Hello.

MARK: How are you?

JO: I’m fine! Who’s this?

MARK: All of us! Go ahead.

JO: Hello?

MARK: Go ahead, ask your question.

JO: Okay thanks… Hi! This is Jo in Castaic calling. Hello everyone.

KRIS: We do not know if we know this individual (jokingly)

(Laughter)

JO: Uh you are all-knowing… practically. My question has to do with the practices and there are a lot of wonderful practices out there in the toolbox and various places, also there are a lot of them. And they’re all very helpful and I know that we have been trying them out. There’s the community on newworldview.com and the people who get Kris sessions and so on have been enjoying them a lot.

And I’m just wondering if… I have a question about cycles and frequency because some practices you want to do daily, for example or when it’s needed. Other practices like for example tuning in to Kris radio every couple of weeks, tuning in to Kris international session every couple of weeks is another kind of cycle that we enjoy with our practices.

KRIS: Indeed. We are of the humble opinion that tuning in to Kris radio or calling in to the international sessions should be practiced as often as possible.

(Laughter)

JO: I agree. And my question has to do with yearly cycles, Kris? Because if there’s such a bounty of practices and the earth naturally goes through its own cycles, it makes me wonder if there are certain times of the year for example, that the practices can be best enjoyed. For example this time of year is when the trees and these seedlings all go inward and so do we. We retire to our homes and so on. It… are those changes of the cycle in ourselves and in our world… do they… are they… do they make the situation more conducive for one practice over another? And is there a sort of order of play that can be derived by examining the cycles of the year?

KRIS: Now, many ancient cultures and even today, some cultures still retain certain practices at the equinoxes. For example, maintain a celebration of the change of the seasons for very practical purposes often for enabling harvesting and giving thanks. And we do believe that even if only four times a year, at the equinoxes, a portion of the day, or the whole day itself would be dedicated to remembering the song that tunes the individual to all of nature, and most importantly, to the depth of his own or her own being. If that small kind of practice perhaps with a candle, nice incense, any small ritual that enables a withdrawing within, an exploration within, would be most helpful in rebuilding that connection with nature as well as one’s own natural self. It is not much to ask, a small portion of a day, four times a year, for example. Does that make sense to you?

JO: Yes it does. Thanks.

KRIS: There are also some other practices, many of which we have outlined. There are some that can be briefly utilized on a daily basis for empowerment, for harmony and peace of mind. There are others that can be utilized in times of need. And the individual should be able to organize their priorities for himself or herself. All in all however, whether we have ever mentioned this or not, there should be one practice that should stand out over and above all else at all time: honoring of self. We are not asking that everyone turn into saints because that would leave many sinners out in the cold, but that everyone take even a small fraction of time during the day simply to honor self. Honor the presence of self within time and space in the now.

MARK: The appreciation game is very good for that as well.

KRIS: Indeed. There are many, many different ways. There are many other practices even that societies can organize. Though we, it is our understanding that very busy commercially oriented economical society would have difficulties with these but nonetheless, if as an entire society, certain things were observed on certain days. Say one day a month the entire society would not eat any grains, just one day a month. There are many other things to eat, but on that one day, you do not eat grains. Do the calculations on how much grain could be saved for those who have none – literally millions of tons. One day a month means twelve days a year. Do the calculations.

JO: It sure helped the fish industry when the Catholics got a hold of that idea.

(Laughter)

JO: Not eating meat on Fridays.

KRIS: This was also for economical purposes.

JO: And I thought it was so interesting that mentioning the appreciation thread that we have going… that we talked a lot about this over the holidays… and it was one of those things… that it felt so right to do that practice around winter solstice, which is when we really relax our expectations about what the world is supposed to be like. We try to view life through the eyes of the child with our sense of awe and of appreciation and I guess my question has to do with a certain consonance, I suppose, of some of the practice with the times of the year, another example, for example in midwinter when we do pull into ourselves. It seems like a good time to look at our intent in life and to dig deep down into our deepest elements and do the self-examination that would be beneficial throughout the year as we are attempting to manifest our desires and our harvest for the year. Could you comment on that?

KRIS: Indeed, again, honoring of self. Recognizing where one is with self, with the universe and give thanks. Small practices that also honor the individual’s intent, as you have described. There are so many wonderful small non-time-consuming practices that could prove extremely beneficial to the overall health of the individual. And when the individual is balanced and healthy, then the society begins to reflect those symptoms as well. Does that make sense to you?

JO: Yes it does, thank you.

KRIS: Indeed. We thank you for calling.

JO: Thank you. Take care everybody.

MARK: Thank you, Jo. Jo’s comments on cycles reminded me of a question I have here from Emmy in Barcelona. Emmy is just learning, or just starting out as a channeler herself, she’s doing energy exchanges, and she was asking if it’s important to practice this phenomena at set times of the day or set times at all, or is it better to just go with the flow and see when it happens?

(Phone rings)

KRIS: Our opinion would be that set times for practices initially can be most beneficial, setting up a pattern so that it becomes easier. The lines of communication flow more freely and the individual has a set expectation they can then work with. Do you follow?

MARK: Yes.

JOHN: Can we take another caller?

KRIS: Indeed. Please feel free to do so.

JOHN: This is Nick from Toronto. Hello Nick.

NICK: Hi.

JOHN: Go ahead with your question.

NICK: Okay. I’m trying to organize so you have to excuse me. Now when it comes to dreams the good thing about the society is that there seem to be acknowledging that dreams are significant and more people are trying to remember them which is very healthy you know, in that sense for our well-being. But what we fail to recognize, not only them but even me on a regular basis, that even though when we go to sleep, we collect, we’re dreaming. But what we don’t realize that when we’re awake, the dreaming state still continues, it’s never asleep, only we connect with the dream state when we’re asleep but it’s still active and around and we don’t try to get in touch with that during our waking period and I was wondering if Kris could make a comment on that.

KRIS: Indeed, and most astute observation. We thank you for that, Nick. And in that you are correct. Dream states do not necessarily cease, desist and disappear from reality simply because you open your eyes and are awake. It could even be quite cleverly argued that when you do that, open your eyes and pretend you are in the physical world, that actually you are in another kind of dream. And whilst you are awake, it is just as possible to detect and receive snippets of upcoming precognitive dream elements as when you are asleep. You receive snippets and precognitive elements of upcoming waking events. For the two realities are not as separate as is often assumed but your present society now still needs to see that divide so it is respected.

Overall however, remembering and recording or journaling dreams is most invaluable, as there is no better tool to reveal to yourself the nature of your own being than dream states. We have mentioned this many times in the past and though it may appear simply phantasmagorical that you fly in a dream, therefore it has no basis in reality, therefore not worth paying attention to, we would completely disagree.

Whence you are in the dream state, the regular laws of physics as applies to physical nature no longer are absolute laws. It is possible within the dream state not only to float, to pass through walls, floors and ceilings but to also levitate and fly. Those aspects of your consciousness that are no longer tied to the regular rules and laws of physics of material nature can then literally take flight. Your consciousness is no longer burdened or tied down to certain rules as you have them but it can literally spread its consciousness wings and explore other areas of awareness, other realities even. So the spectrum of adventures is quite diverse, very deep and ultimately it can be recognized that your waking reality as you so fondly want to call it, is another type of dream for Self. Does that answer your question? Is the caller still online?

JOHN: No, the caller is gone but…

KRIS: That is fine.

JOHN: I think that answers the question, from what I can understand.

KRIS: Indeed.

MARK: I… that reminds me, I love to actually imagine that my waking day is the dream, and that’s when I’m actually sleeping and then when I go to bed at night and I close my eyes, that’s when I wake up and that’s my reality. That really blows my mind in a fun way when I do that.

KRIS: Indeed. The closer you attune your consciousness to the dream state even whilst you are awake, can let you perceive, as we have just described, small flashes of upcoming dream events in exactly the same way. Whilst in the dream state you may perceive precognitive elements of upcoming daily events. Does that make sense to you?

MARK: Oh yes.

KRIS: When you get to that particular plateau or platform, then interesting adventures in consciousness can then be launched into. It simply means that your ego construction is becoming more and more comfortable in recognizing and accepting the dream state and what goes on within those dreams. As not simply the product of too much gruyère cheese, but authentic explorations and adventures in consciousness just as the ego construction’s own views of reality are themselves another type of adventure in consciousness. Please feel free to continue.

JOHN: That raises a question for me, Kris. You mentioned that the ego construction has a different vantage point in the dream or the waking state. Is it the same? In other words when I go and have a dream and I have an experience in the dream. Am I utilizing in essence, the same ego construction as I utilize in the waking state? Only in a different state?

KRIS: Portions thereof. As you slip into sleep state, going through the various stages of hypnagogic states and eventually drift off to sleep in common vernacular. Your consciousness and the ego literally de-concentrate, if we can so crudely make up a word. The concentration upon physical reality is slightly withdrawn again and again until consciousness is focused into the inner realities. So a different portion of the ego, a more subdued, is active.

(phone rings)

JOHN: Okay.

KRIS: Do you follow?

JOHN: Yes, that’s very helpful. So it’s the same, in essence, the same eagle. I said ‘eagle’ (laughter) but it’s a different configuration of it.

KRIS: Indeed.

JOHN: Can we say that?

KRIS: Indeed.

JOHN: Okay, yeah. That’s very, very interesting, so the ego that accepts all the rules and regulations of official reality out here can in fact loosen its grip on some of that as evidenced by its activities in the dream state.

KRIS: Indeed.

(Phone rings)

JOHN: Okay, that’s very helpful.

MARK: And we have another caller.

JOHN: Okay we’ve got another caller here. Oh it’s Alicia from Hamilton.

MARK: Hi Alicia.

ALICIA: Hi. I just had an observation and a question. The observation being that lately, myself as well as quite a few people around me have been feeling kind of like going through the motions of depression almost, like feeling unmotivated and just off. And while there didn’t really seem to be a real reason for it or a reason behind it, and one sort of theory that was going around was that there’s something going on with the earth, and that just the winter this year being kind of starting out slow and then kind of being really mild. And I was just wondering if you had any sort of insights into that or what we could do about it?

KRIS: Indeed. Firstly it should be understood that though there are apparent reasons. Perhaps the winter is late, there is something going on with the earth and so on and so forth. It needs to be understood that the physical world is merely the confirmation of your own states of consciousness, of your own belief systems. So if on the one hand it appears that there is something going on with the earth, there is something in the air, there is something with the winter or the weather, these are merely indications that there’s something afoot within your own belief systems and consciousness. These external elements are reflecting that there is an issue within yourself or yourselves that requires your attention; that is in need of your nurturing. Do you follow so far?

ALICIA: Yes.

KRIS: And though it may appear as depression or any other appellation or label, it still pertains to self. We have often suggested the small practice of triple A: acknowledging, addressing and accepting. More detail can be found upon the website. And such a small practice can truly help you pinpoint within yourself the state of your consciousness or awareness. Or if you like, the subconscious activities that are at play or at work within you, that you can then acknowledge, address and accept as the means to neutralize the charge. Does that make sense to you?

ALICIA: Yup.

KRIS: That also means that at all times, you are empowered and able to do something about it. Whilst if you merely stayed at the surface level, meaning at the layer of ‘there is something going on with the earth’ what can you do about that? Do you follow?

ALICIA: Yes.

KRIS: When you recognize that ‘the something going on with earth’ is a reflection of something going on within you, then you have the power, the means and the abilities to make a change, to transform the energies to something practical and advantageous and to lift your spirits above the present situation. Transform your state into one that is advantageous. Does that also make sense?

ALICIA: Yeah.

KRIS: Did you hear our opening tale?

ALICIA: Yes I did.

KRIS: Indeed. If you have the means, listen to it again and again. It is filled with meaning that will trigger subconscious responses in a most positive manner. Do you follow?

ALICIA: Yeah. Could you apply that same thing that you’re saying about how you sort of create your own… like instead of saying that the world is impacting you, would you apply that same to like astrology and the kind of things they say is going on astrologically that are sort of impacting people? Could you say that you could also change that with your own…

KRIS: Indeed. Astrology is to be seen in the same light. It is not the planets and the stars and their alignments and their houses that govern you in any way shape or form. But these configurations are reflections and understand the reflection is not the true state but the reflection of movements of consciousness within your own self. Does that make sense to you?

ALICIA: Yes it does, thank you very much.

KRIS: Indeed. And do remember that you are not caused to act or behave in certain ways because of the stars or the planets, but the stars and the planets are caused to behave and function in certain ways because you are. And we thank you for your call.

ALICIA: Thank you.

MARK: Thanks Alicia.

ALICIA: Bye.

JOHN: Bye-bye.

(Phone rings)

JOHN: Mercy!

MARK: And yet another caller.

JOHN: Geez, we’re hot tonight!

KRIS: What is the time?

MARK: Five to eight.

KRIS: Indeed. Do you wish a break after this?

MARK: After this caller.

KRIS: Indeed.

(In the background: ‘Nick again from Toronto’)

KRIS: Indeed.

JOHN: Hello again Nick, you’re on the air!

NICK: Hi. Another question if you don’t mind, again I have to think through this. But in this lifetime you know people go through diseases, they go through illnesses, they go through traumas, they go through a lot of so-called negative experiences. For example myself, too, brain injury. Now I understand that you know we go through a lot of pain and changes and things which is perfectly good. I’m not taking that away, but the thing is nobody really looks at the positive experiences that we go through these, through these breaking of bones, brain injury and other stuff. And what are we learning from these experiences rather than we wanna get away from them as quickly as possible? What are we learning from them? What are they teaching us? How do we help to see the world differently because of this? And we don’t do that enough and I’m just wondering if Kris could talk about that.

KRIS: Indeed again, very insightful. And the issues that you bring up are very often most complex therefore not any one particular solution might fit all. Things have to be looked at both individually and then collectively from another perspective. But we do understand that for somebody who has suffered as you have, or another, to use your words, it is most traumatizing to think that one’s life may be over as you know it. But do remember that you are more than the sum of all of your parts and though there is an aspect of you that may, through events and circumstances and through beliefs be traumatized. It is not the only thing that you are. You are not a trauma nor specifically a victim per se.

You may very well have chosen this more challenging path because you understand that you have inner and innate resources and strengths that under any other condition would never surface. And with these new paradigms for your life, you are learning how to transform your own personal emotional energies from an undesirable state to one that will function and can also be desirable on one small condition, and you did bring this point up, the majority of people try to get away from their trauma and their condition as quickly as possible up to and including death by suicide if possible.

Our particular perspective would be to actually acknowledge the situation in as many facets as possible. Address the condition in as many facets as possible and to accept the situation and the individual, meaning yourself, in as many ways as possible. We have in the past mentioned an energy modality called EFT – emotional freedom technique. That is most potent and suitable for many varieties of living challenges. Utilizing this small practice in itself can prove very transformative. There are more ways to assist yourself than is previously thought.

We fully understand that the medical system itself may say to the patient ‘we are sorry. There is nothing further we can do for you.’ Very often the patient will take that to mean nothing else can then be done for them, they are now written off. However the medical system is not the only modality available to the individual and in exploring alternatives many people have found that they are not indeed written off, they are not a final testament to the inabilities of science to save humankind, they merely state that the medical system has its own limitations.

Now it is up to the client or patient to pick himself or herself up by the bootstraps in one way or another and pursue their own nurturing and healing which would also be part of the challenge set up by the individual and as we said earlier, this is a complex issue. We are attempting to make it as simple as possible but there are definitely other tools, energy medicine, energy psychology. So may other modalities are available that one need not feel that simply because they may have been turned away by the allopathic system that there is nothing else to do. Does that make sense?

NICK: Yes it does.

KRIS: Indeed. Now we suggest a small break. We thank you for your question and inquiry.

NICK: Thank you.

KRIS: And we suggest a small musical break.

(About a five minute musical interlude)

MARK: And we’re back! So once again, the phone number to call is 416-204-9723 and well Kris isn’t here yet so it’s a little… (Chuckling)

JOHN: Oh, may as well take this moment to… Mark, to mention… Kris mentioned the treatment method called EFT, emotional freedom technique to the last caller. And I thought it might be useful for anyone to know that you can go to the emotional freedom technique website and it is emofree.com. E-M-O-F-R-E-E dot com and you’ll get all the stuff about EFT which you know, I have to give my own testimonial about, that is… that it’s a spectacular technique.

MARK: I have to agree with you. I’m using it daily as well now. I know Serge uses it quite regularly and we’ve also had many transcripts, many sessions discussing this and the potentials, so it’s very, very positive.

JOHN: Well the thing about EFT is: it fits in so well with the triple A.

MARK: Oh agreed.

JOHN: Because, I mean in one sense, sort of just tapping your body and using a set-up phrase sounds, I don’t know, a little bit of a cheat, or an easy way to solve a problem. But when you use the triple A sort of approach and you say ‘okay I’m gonna EFT what I think the issue is and if we don’t get the results we want then let’s peel back a layer and see if we can find out maybe a little clearer description of what the issue really is.’ And you get closer and closer to it and then finally you find the one that hits you, the one that really makes a difference, and as we we’re talking about earlier, when you get the right set-up phrase and you do the EFT on it, it’s quite an emotional. I mean we’re talking tingles up and down the spine and a relief and tears sometimes and… and you know… you know when you get it.

MARK: Getting back to Alicia in Hamilton there, I was going to suggest to you too, when you’re sort of feeling down like that, the practice of perspectives works really well for me. Often when we’re focusing on something very close, in your face, be it a problem or a sadness or even your computer screen or your homework and that’s when you start to feel down. Look out a window, look at a distant object, the horizon, look up at the night sky and you will notice changes in your emotional states. This is sort of a little quick, quick fix while you’re still doing your triple A and such. So we’re just waiting for the dead guy to come back here and get this show back on the road.

JOHN: We should probably tell people that we say ‘the dead guy’ (chuckling) that we’re… he’s not really dead… well… anyway, the issue is, that’s just our kind of a fond little nickname for Kris.

KRIS: Indeed our existence is different from your existence so therefore it is understandable that you would consider yourselves the dead ones.

(Laughter)

KRIS: Indeed if there are other callers itching to dial, feel free to do so.

In the meantime, it is worthy of mention that though we suggest EFT, there are many other modalities as well. We merely mention EFT because it is extremely practical and very easy to use. People should indeed investigate as many alternatives as possible knowing full well that they are never bereft of tools and resources innate or otherwise. Your own nature itself is predisposed towards self-corrective patterns and behavior.

When you resist or oppose, then you display ardent and (pause) we are looking for the word, we understand it does not happen often BUT once in a while… when you set up resistances, oppositions to your own well-being whether for secondary gain or other reasons, then the natural flow of your own nurturing abilities becomes impacted and your own energies no longer are able to function in your favor.

And the more the individual harbors and holds on to destructive energy patterns of behavior, the more difficult the challenge becomes. To the point that the individual may believe that there is nothing else, nothing available for himself or herself. When that is the prime focus then despair can easily set in.

When Philip was mentioning earlier that changing one’s perspective both psychologically and physically can be useful, he speaks from personal experience. And anyone who puts into practice such a small exercise can indeed find it most beneficial even if initially to give reprieve so that your own natural harmonizing processes can begin to function. Does that make sense?

MARK: Yes, very much so. I was in a very deep state of depression when you and I met and I thought there was no hope for me at that time, and simple little practices like that gave me meaning, changed the way I was feeling and therefore allowed me to start bringing joy back into my life.

KRIS: And the main point is it is not necessarily the exercise itself, but the recognition that you were able to do something about your situation.

(Phone rings)

MARK: Yes.

KRIS: That is what the meaning is.

MARK: Works very well. And I believe we have another caller.

(in the background: ‘Paul from California’)

JOHN: Oh! We got a call from Paul in California. Hi Paul! You’re on the air!

PAUL: Hi John, Hi Mark, Hi Kris how are you all today?

JOHN: Well. Thank you.

MARK: Go ahead.

PAUL: I have a question for Kris. An earlier caller named Nick mentioned a brain injury and it reminded me of a friend of ours whose son was in a terrible car accident last week and suffered a brain injury and is in the process of a long recovery. I was just wondering if Kris would care to offer some information in general about that situation and in a way that can help people who are new to this information because his mother Robin has attended sessions and actually Blaze himself has attended a Kris session. If Kris would just offer his opinion on this type of a really catastrophic creation that changes everything in ways perhaps for the parents and family to help cope with such a situation.

KRIS: Indeed. As suggested earlier these are very complex issues and the primary character, the so labeled victim is not the only player in the scenario. All the people in his or her life who will be affected in one way or another are participating as well. They have their own innate reasons for being part of the scene or the play or the drama for their own particular vantage point, and there may be issues involving other lives that come to play. There may be issues for the creation of what you would call future lives as well that are being set up all in the moment. But first and foremost is the display of deeper emotional situations and how each individual takes the event according to his or her belief structure and point of view and transforms the situation.

One may even desire to experience depths of despair that he or she has not previously explored and we understand that to some people this would be almost sacrilegious. ‘Why would an individual position himself or herself in the depths of despair to the point where the ideation of suicide begins to take hold?’ But from the individual’s perspective this can be a legitimate path to understanding value fulfillment in ways that ordinary societal belief structures would not allow the venturing into. These are almost taboo fringe experiences in many ways and at the same time they do affect the entire collective.

What each individual undergoes is fed into the collective consciousness as well, assisting others to evaluate their own potential adventures in one direction or another and as well the manner in which energy is transformed from one state to another can be most valuable regardless of what layer of consciousness is involved. For instance it would seem almost unthinkable that someone so young as Blaze would put himself in a position that such an event would occur. But for the individual that creates the imagery of the young man, there are advantages that cannot be evaluated by the modern assessments given within society.

If more leeway was allowed in terms of consciousness experimentation, it could be understood that individuals might not necessarily go to those extremes because they would have other venues available to them to experiment with consciousness. And as we said earlier this is an extremely complex subject matter, one that actually strikes at the very heart of the very idea of being human. And is one then the victim of events and circumstances or is one the author of events and circumstances? And if one is the author, then why would an author put himself or herself in that kind of a situation? Questions still to be examined, answers still to be developed. And we trust that for now this may be satisfactory.

PAUL: Thank you Kris, and just a comment on that. Nick who called earlier alluded to the potential silver lining in the event of manifesting and dealing with a serious brain trauma which it sounds like he has gone through…

KRIS: Indeed.

PAUL: And that we don’t look at that and not in the overall creation and then you were… you were also covering right at the end of your answer there… something… you know the idea that we’re exploring together here with this idea of conscious creation or that ‘you create your own reality’ is that we are indeed the author and responsible. And why in god’s name would an eighteen year-old on any level choose this kind of creation, why would his parents and some sort of essence agreement or soul level agreement choose this sort of experience? Is there any other advice that you would like to offer to his parents and people in a similar situation who are wrestling with this philosophy of conscious creation and dealing with some very, very difficult personal circumstances?

KRIS: Very often at the very onset of such events, emotions are so laden with expectations. The individual is so pregnant with grief, torn with guilt, ripped with questions, that it would usually take some time for these emotional states to settle enough for changes in perspectives to actually bring light into the emotional darkness that has been created. Dealing with immediate answers will prove difficult. A certain amount of time and a particular emotional state needs to be cultivated by the individual in order to feel a certain kind of safety within which to explore the deeper layers of the meanings of the events and circumstances.

Why would an eighteen year old put himself into that situation? Will one or two words provide a sufficient answer? Will simply saying ‘but indeed he creates his reality’ not feel more like an insult? Adding salt to the wound? In these individual’s present state a certain amount of change of perspective needs to be experienced before there is sufficient safety, psychological safety to explore the underneath so to speak, the other reasons why. Does that make sense so far?

PAUL: Absolutely, yes.

KRIS: And though individuals and other sources may be able to provide a few little answers, ultimately, the one and those involved actually do know why they precipitated the allowing of the events for all involved. But it may take time to bring this to the surface of awareness. It would be insufficient to say it is their preference, it is their energies and that is what it is. But to formulate a more complete and complex answer would require the direct input of the individuals involved themselves. And that would require them to be removed from the event for a time before they feel safe enough to explore the deeper meanings within the symbolisms of the actions. Does that make sense to you as well?

PAUL: Absolutely and thank you so very much, and our prayers and heartfelt angst go out to Blaze and his parents and sister.

KRIS: Indeed. Now…

PAUL: And thank you for that information and I’m sure it will help them.

KRIS: Now that this has been said, there are also other things that can be utilized in the meantime. Are you at all familiar with a small exercise we provided last June? What we referred to as nodi of consciousness, nodes of consciousness?

PAUL: Generally, yes I am.

KRIS: Perhaps this can be developed more in-depth and assisting individuals to deal with those more traumatic life situations. Because energy can be utilized and shifted for these types of purposes to accelerate rewiring of neurological processes, for instance, something that would prove beneficial to Blaze, Nick and others. This is not to mean that we are providing an instant cure. By any means are we not advocating this but we are saying that subtle changes can be brought to play where the individual’s own systems can be allowed some degree of recuperation overall. Does this also make sense?

PAUL: Yes, very much, and thank you very much.

KRIS: Indeed. Thank you for your call.

MARK: Thanks Paul!

PAUL: Thank you, bye-bye.

MARK: Bye-bye.

KRIS: And what is the time?

MARK: Our time is now up.

KRIS: Indeed. We thank you all for your lovely questions, for your lovely selves, and above all things, if any one singular practice can be utilized, honoring of self is the simplest practice of all but possibly the most difficult because it has no rituals excepting what you create in your mind to honor yourself. And what you create in your mind will eventually be reflected and confirmed in the physical world. And with that we thank you.

MARK: Thank you Kris.

JOHN: Just a quick note and that is to Paul and possibly Nick if he’s interested, I will put together… some of the material on the nodi is not published. And so I will put together a post for newworldview on using the nodi to rewire around blockage that I think might be helpful.

MARK: We are also looking at putting online a transcript from a workshop that was held in Toronto that was never published and we’re gonna dig that up. It was transcribed, we’re gonna dig that up and publish it as well. So it’s time to go so I’m gonna thank all our wonderful callers and our listeners. You all had brilliant questions. I’m sorry if we didn’t get to your question or if the lines were busy there, but we thank you. There will be other call-in shows and check us out at krischronicles.com, Kris with a ‘K’

SERGE: Come on Sunday.

MARK: And newworldview.com.

SERGE: And if you want to you can give us a call, the telephone number is on the website, and we have every Sunday some sessions at home for groups.

MARK: Have a good night and thanks for listening!

(Session ends)

The Big Disconnect

January 21, 2007

Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Ellen Gilbert (Kwaa’Ji)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on January 21, 2007

Roll Call: Serge, Mark, John, Myrna, Barbara, Lorraine, Joshua, Ellen, Cathy, Jen, Brian, Paul, Jo, Lisa and Tom

(7:47 PM)

KRIS: Now we trust that you are all comfortable and we thank you for your consideration, and welcome new friends and old friends alike. We would like to begin by asking a question. How often do you go through your day wondering what it is that you are doing, what is the purpose of your action, perhaps even, what is your connection to life and to reality alike?

JOHN: Quite regularly! (Chuckling)

MYRNA: Yeah. Maybe every five minutes!

KRIS: Now of course it is not necessary to answer, but if you did, that is quite fine. (Giggling in the group) It is a type of question meant to solicit from you various states of awareness, and these few questions and so many more are designed to lead you to a particular point in your relationship with life, specifically in regards to your connection or disconnect from life and existence.

Perhaps another question would be: Can you name or think of at least one difference from very ancient cultures and your own modern culture? Perhaps in your old cultures, things were slightly different, and so many things, examples and answers can come to your own mind. But there is a particular perspective that hardly exists at all in your modern world.

Even though there are still pockets of small groups, people that still observe the ways of their ancestors, but for the most part, your modern “flash” civilization — we refer to it as a “flash civilization” because everything must be done in a flash — you must get from point A to point B in a flash: you must speak fast, you must think fast, you must work fast, you must travel fast, and you must do fast faster. And in your rush and your haste to do everything in a flash, you have generated an entire culture that for the most part had misplaced or completely lost its original sense of meaning.

We tried to be careful with the words in saying “misplaced or lost its original SENSE of meaning.” It STILL exists, but it has been buried, layered over, even replaced with many of your modern psychological amenities as well as physical commodities. This sense of having lost or misplaced that original sense of meaning is the result of the Big Disconnect.

So this can be the title of this session: “The Big Disconnect” — and particularly in relation to the world, the Earth, life, and most specifically, the individual’s own life. And this Big Disconnect of course, has implications on many, many layers, not only for your environment, because if there is a disconnect from the Earth and Nature, it is easier to use up resources and have very little care for the environment itself, since in so many ways, having a connection with and meaning towards the environment is considered too time-consuming. And this disconnect is spread on many other layers.

Overall, any of these disconnections, whether to the environment, to Nature, to life itself, and so on, are all various reflections of the Big Disconnect itself, disconnected from one’s own sensed meaning about one’s own life, disconnected from one’s own life.

And as we spoke of these last few weeks, when your inner Self, or even your own subconscious makes various concerted efforts to bring this awareness, this connection, back to its original state, and that state has now become an unknown to the individual and the individual sets up an opposition to his or her own natural state of being, then the by-product is indeed confusion, anger, even various symptoms in the body or in the psyche, and it eventually appears as if signals and communications from within might even be dangerous, suspect and must therefore be defended against.

Thus, this Big Disconnect, even though it can be considered a unique experimentation of consciousness, even the original intent has now been largely forgotten and the entire mechanism of the official line of consciousness seeks to buy into the Disconnect as if it were for the well-being and the welfare of all concerned. And doing anything less may be viewed as returning to a more archaic, superstitious time, but staying within the boundaries of the official line of consciousness is certainly proof of advancement, proof of a kind of evolution!

However, our contention is without a foundation steeped in consciousness itself, the official line of consciousness can become not only a maze but a speeding train without any brakes, nothing to keep it in check. Now over the last fifty, sixty years various attempts have been made to establish a balance of sorts with many grass-roots environmental organizations of many kinds.

In your metaphysical and New Age fields, various developments in awareness have made attempts to raise consciousness and to demonstrate that there needs to be a certain level of equilibrium, a certain understanding that the environment cannot necessarily be exploited and pillaged without any consideration of consequences. And when these and many similar issues are ignored, various environmental disasters SEEM to occur so haphazardly.

Various philosophies abound, philosophies that are often misinterpreted at their most basic, sometimes even infantile level to please the egos of the individuals in the groups and much of the deeper teachings are set aside or completely ignored, except for that which seems to suit and satisfy the immediate egoic purposes of the individuals who may even have agendas for promoting simplistic, fundamentalist views.

For instance, there are many New Age groups that cannot establish a foothold in any philosophy other than that which seems to promote the ideation of “Me, myself and I,” that everything is for them, for themselves, and only for them. Thus, for many of these types of groups, very little regard is ever given to anything but the immediate fulfillment of any desires that will bring them continuous sustained sensory titillation of one kind or another.

Whether it is done and executed at the expense of others is obviously not of any concern, but of course, do not let anyone else exploit them with the same philosophy – ! – again, because there is very little connection with deeper values and meanings concerning life. And our main point with this Big Disconnect is an attempt to bring a bit more reflection into life’s meanings and values beyond the immediate perceptions that fill the individual’s time from waking to sleeping as is commonly understood in the fast-paced world as you know it today.

And this major difference between ancient and older cultures and civilizations and your modern world, is that everything had a meaning. Everything was meaningful. Everything had a purpose. Life itself and the Earth itself were often considered most meaningful, the planet itself often considered a living entity. The sacred was seen everywhere. Nothing was turned over to mere hazard or chance, but everything was considered purposeful.

Every encounter — even in sleep and dreams — every encounter was considered most meaningful. The divinities, gods and goddesses and divine beings, were considered an integral part of the entire manifestation of nature and the physical world. The ancient world views were very different from the modern’s world views. The major difference being that the modern world view to a large extent considers that, since there is no meaning and no purpose in anything, that EVERYTHING is devoid of meaning and purpose.

If it exists only to propagate itself, then it can be utilized and exploited up to and including other human beings. Entire groups and nations of them if need be, for the bottom line. And, subconsciously, the individual and collective psyche is in a state of rebellion on that very topic.

Gradually, individuals are listening to the communication, but many are not. But those few that ARE listening, that ARE getting the message, that are exploring the meaningfulness of their own lives, life in general — though at times they may be confused — are motivated and driven by a deeper set of meanings and values than those of consumerism, for instance.

Now it must also be understood that, when we critique consumerism, we are not stating that it is something that you must avoid, but we are stating that it can be put in perspective with the meaning of your life first and foremost, not the other way around. We have stated before, and we say again, the individual is not here to serve the great machinery of consumerism, but that is how it is now being understood within the context of society.

So our statements are meant as critiques of the mindset and we are attempting to ring some bells, to awaken the sleeper within the body and in regards to this discussion on the Big Disconnect, the point is then, to re-awaken the individual to that connection that is his or hers, that has been there since before the concept of time and space.

And there is a big disconnect from the world, from life, from meaning, because individuals have lost their own private connection with the meaning of their lives. And when you re-connect with this deeper meaning and value of life, then things change, not only dramatically, but in ways that are even difficult to express in words, but that can definitely be experienced.

Perhaps after break, we can take some time with each of you for a nice adventure and re-establish that sensed connection deep within each of you. What is the time?

MARK: 8:22.

KRIS: Indeed then, enjoy a small break.

(Small break from 8:22 PM until 8:43 PM)

KRIS: Now then, since this is an opportunity for everyone to pitch in a good word or two, then we take advantage of this opening and suggest that in a few moments, we will provide the opportunity for another adventure.

But before we begin, it should be noted that, when we speak about ancient cultures and civilizations, in part we are addressing what you historically know as many ancient cultures and civilizations, whether ancient Greek, Roman, Egyptian, and so on and so forth, but it should also be understood that we are simultaneously addressing those ancient aspects of your own Self; those ancient layers of inner civilizations and concepts upon which you are attempting to erect or build a different world view, the experience of which you are now living.

Thus, when we refer to ancient cultures or civilizations, it should be understood that we are not limiting our words to what is sometimes in your history books. No ancient cultures and civilizations may thus exist without you. You are simultaneously the ancient, the modern and the future civilization, all beautifully encapsulated within your lovely selves.

Thus, if you would all take a moment, merely to make yourselves comfortable as best you can, feet on the floor, back well-supported, so that you are at ease. And you may, or not, join in and follow the sound of our voice and in a moment begin the journey to within. And as you sit there very comfortable, you may even like to pay attention to your breathing, allowing it to become more and more relaxed, allowing yourselves to simultaneously pay attention to the sound of our voice, to our words and allow our words to take you deeper into the experience, to resonate deeply with you.

Allow the words to be energy projections of their own whilst you pay attention to your breathing and relaxation. And perhaps you even feel like closing your eyes, allowing them to become heavier, allowing your eyelids to gently close, allowing your relaxation to deepen, as our words continue to resonate with you.

Perhaps you even notice the weight of your body in the chair, or wherever you are. And continue to allow your breathing to take you deeper and deeper into relaxation….And the deeper you allow yourself to be, the better and more relaxed you feel….and the more relaxed you feel, the deeper you can be.

And in a moment we will count from one to five. By the time we count to five, you can allow yourself to imagine, or pretend, or visualize or see yourselves at the bottom of a stairs and each count from one to five takes you deeper and deeper, until at five you find yourself at the bottom of the stairs in a very nice, safe, comforting place.

One….two….three….four….and five.

At the bottom of the stairs, then, in this nice, safe, and comforting place, see before you a very nice road, perhaps it even looks like a small country road. It is quiet. Perhaps it is even sunny… One of those beautiful, almost perfect country days and as you walk ahead, you come to an intersection. You can turn left to the past. You can turn right to the future. You can go straight ahead to the present.

Whichever road you take, know that whichever road you take is directly linked or connected to your own life and the roads themselves are not necessarily meant to show you anything as much as they exist for you, as a part of you, as a connection to you, whether it refers to the past, the future or the present. And everything along those roads, whichever one you travel upon is meant as a symbol to connect deeply with your being.

And choose a direction. It matters not which one you take. What is important is what you connect with. Allow yourselves to take the road you choose. Take a few moments to journey on that road. On your road and your journey there might be objects, symbols, signs, scenes, forms, people.

(Pause)

Whichever you encounter, even if you do not fully understand the meaning of the connection, just allow the connection to be, to exist….and accept. Know that your powerful, creative subconscious mind knows how to set things into motion for your advantage. Simply allow yourselves to feel as deeply as possible the meaningful connections.

Know that when you begin to work with your powerful, creative, subconscious mind, situations, events and circumstances can become and do become advantageous and that your powerful and creative subconscious mind works to your advantage.

(Long pause)

And in a moment, it will be time to return to the bottom of the staircase…..So allow yourselves to leave those roads, whichever road you were on, and to return to the bottom of the staircase…. But here there is a new thing at the bottom of the staircase: an elevator or escalator…whichever suits you best….

And you are invited to go up either on the elevator or on the escalator, to another platform, way above the road that went in the past, present or future, left, right, or straight ahead….so that you can see all three from above.

Now being on this platform where you can see down below the road that went to the left, the right or straight ahead, the past, present or future….and see how far they went, perhaps they were not so divergent after all. Perhaps these roads even connected somewhere, crossed over each other, perhaps even all became one road into the adventure of life.

And from your vantage point on this higher plateau or platform, you might even be able to see how you journeyed and traveled on your respective road, and from that vantage point, acquire completely different perspective and meaning of the journey. It is even possible that you may acquire completely different deeper, more meaningful understanding from this vantage point.

Allow that vantage point, with new meaning, to sink deep into your Being…..

(Pause)

And now allow yourselves to return either to the escalator or elevator, go back down to the bottom of the stairs, taking with you those perspectives, points of view, meanings, understandings and know that these different points of views and meanings and understandings cannot only be found projected out into the world, your daily excursions, but that you can even pick up signs of them here and there during the day. Expect to see these things in your daily life in your interactions with other individuals and in your participation in the creation of the world.

Now at the bottom of the stairs we will count from five to one. At one you will open your eyes, be fully awake and aware, fully conscious, perhaps you can take a deep breath to give your body energy. Five….four…allowing all sensations to return to the body, to your body. Three….two and one.

Open your eyes, be fully awake and aware, feeling good in every way, refreshed, and when you go out into the world, look for and expect to find signs and signals and symbols of the deeper meanings that you have uncovered, that you can respond to.

Now, what is the time?

MARK: 9:10.

KRIS: Indeed. Since you are all very nicely relaxed already, we suggest adventure number two. All you need do is return to that nice inner feeling of relaxation and allow that feeling to return again, perhaps closing your eyes and with the sound of our voice, allowing yourselves to relax even deeper now….deeper now….and deeper still.

Such a deep relaxation that it is easy for you to detect the beat of your own heart in one way or another. You may sense it, feel it, hear it…whichever way works best for you. Connect with the beat of your own heart. Sense how each beat of your heart sends the blood coursing through your veins through the miles and miles of veins throughout your body.

And however you do it, whether you imagine, know, pretend, know that every other individual in this room or whatever room you are in, and in every room connected through this telephone line, you can sense and appreciate the heartbeat of every other individual, those nearest you, those furthest from you. Simply know that their heart is beating like yours, with yours, in rhythm with yours.

Not only can you allow yourself to sense and appreciate the heartbeat of those near and far from you, but even of other individuals in your building, in your neighborhood, in your city. And as you are appreciating this union and heartbeat, you can also connect with the vibratory rhythm of the Earth itself, this big planet upon which you experience and express a deeply meaningful and valuable and fulfilling life.

And you can sense the vibratory rhythm of the planet itself, deep within its core, energy flowing at a specific rhythm, a rhythm which resonates with everything upon this planet, inanimate as well as animate. Everything you consider living or not resonates with the frequency of that vibratory rhythm, as you are all connected due to the vibratory rhythm as it resonates throughout your own heartbeat.

And this deep, deep, meaningful rhythm exists in resonance with the rhythm of other planets and satellites along with the rhythm of the star you call the Sun. That rhythm creates what you call a solar system and this solar system has a rhythm, a vibratory rhythm that resonates with outlying and neighboring solar systems far, far into the reaches, the part of the galaxy you call the Milky Way. And this too resonates with other parts of the galaxy, along with the resonance of other galaxies that are light years away.

And these vibratory resonances echo back and forth into all sectors of what you call space in all areas of all the frameworks in Quadrants One. And still, you can sense the vibratory resonance deep within the body you call yourself, into the form you know as you. It is a vibratory resonance shared with all life-forms including your planet and all those that inhabit it. And the magical, exuberant, vital lives that each of you express, are built upon a deep, meaningful connection to the resonance of all life, both as you know it and do not know it.

And gradually allow yourselves to remember once again how it feels to breathe deeply within your body, to become aware of the miraculous construction of your physical forms and how those forms allow you to express your being.

And in a moment we will count from three to one and at one you will open your eyes and be wide awake, fully conscious and you can take with you, bring with you, those feelings of deep, meaningful resonance, a connection with all life forms.

Three….two, allow all sensations to return to the body…one, open your eyes, be wide awake, conscious, fully aware, keeping with you those meaningful and deep resonances and feeling good in every which way.

Now what is the time?

MARK: 9:21.

KRIS: Then indeed, we will leave you to contemplate and recreate those adventures whenever you need them and we thank you for your meaningful consideration.

ALL: Thank you, Kris.
Detailed Roll Call:

Toronto: Serge (Joseph), Mark (Philip), John (Sohars), Myrna (Shara-Leene), Lorraine (Saggan), Barbara, and Joshua K.
California: Paul (Janaki) and Jo (Rosalie)
Delaware: Ellen (Kwaa’Ji), Cathy (Segova), Brian (El-Don) and Jen (Alma)
Oregon: Lisa (Lauramar)
Hawaii: Tom (Desire)

Your OWN Truths

January 14, 2007

Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Ellen Gilbert (Kwaa’Ji)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on January 14, 2007

Roll Call: Serge (Joseph), Mark (Philip), John (Sohars), Myrna (Shara-Leene), Joshua K., Rob (Rendrick), Dave (Valance), Brad (Illuma), Scott and Lorraine (Saggan)

(7:48 PM)

KRIS: Now we trust that you are all very comfortable and we thank you for your lovely consideration. As well, we are rather humbled by your comments and observations. It stands to reason that each and every one of you, whether we meet for the first time or the umpteenth time, that you need to sort out and filter and interpret the meaning of the words, their inferences, their personal impact upon you and your own thinking processes and belief structures in your own unique way. And as you stay true to your vision of life and reality, so will you gain in knowledge and wisdom.

And we specifically use the words “true to your vision of life” because it is very important that you discover within yourselves; what are your own truths. There are many individuals who feel they must immediately within the hour, change who and what they are right now to give the appearance that they are of a deep understanding of the words, the concepts, the material and the very idea that they are more than the sum of all of their parts.

But by rushing towards being something they are not to begin with and quite likely steamrolling over their own usual personality structure, their own best intention is immediately defeated because they will try to become something they are not. And by remaining true to YOUR vision of life, YOUR vision of yourselves in the here and now, exactly where each and every one of you sit in this moment, aware of the way in which you translate the meaning of our experience in YOUR life will have far more of an impact than any of you trying to be something that you are not.

And there is indeed more than mere humility, there is a great deal of wisdom innate within your own personality structure. By remaining true to whom and what you are right now gives you a certain leverage and access to that deeper innate wisdom in allowing yourselves to observe how the words, their intent, their meaning crashes upon the shore of your own consciousness so that you can become even more aware that you too are more than the sum of your parts.

You are more than accountants, wives, husbands, fathers, mothers, lovers, policemen, graphic artists and so on and so forth. These are merely some of the roles through which you express your individuality, but above and beyond those particular practiced roles lives an individual that at times and at best is barely even known to oneself.

So it behooves each and every one of you from time to time to enter an introspective mood, to wonder at the wonder of yourself, to appreciate the meaning that you manifest in your life and to enjoy one of the most simple things in all of creation: the fact that you ARE, period.

And out of that wonderment comes the rest of your existence. The simple fact of being is not an arduous and laborious function. Each of you do that without thinking. Barely one iota of energy goes into the process of being and yet such a small particle of individuated energy transforms the whole of existence through the venue of your personality. Therefore, we contend that it merits introspection, once or twice in a lifetime. (Pause) Perhaps three times.

(Group laughter)

And thus, ponder the imponderable beings that you are and thus, find a means to rejoice in the simple fact that you breathe, that you live and experience, and from that nuclei bursts forth in all directions the lives that each of you lives. It is customary to think of oneself as little more than an amalgam of proteins, amino acids, molecules and a host of other chemical interactions and after a certain period of time as you understand it, you are no more.

But underneath that, in a place that is often considered secret and sometimes even shameful, there is a depth of awareness that goes well beyond what you learned. You are supposed to be. The human experience itself cannot be contained within the pages of the books that try to describe the human experience from one perspective or another or another still. Just as you cannot truly even get an inkling of what an ocean is merely by understanding that it is wet or it is salty or it has fish in it or algae. It is not merely one of those things or even a hundred of those things, but so much more still.

And the same applies to each of your wondrous lives, whether you like your lives or despise them is ultimately irrelevant. You ARE going to have that life. What you do with it is an entirely different thing and it is our humble contention that it is in your own favor, to your advantage, to find admirable traits and qualities to your lives because you will continue having it for some time, instead of anything else that people also and often complain about concerning their lives.

And of course we cannot in the least way bring you a taste of that other side of life, but that you yourselves must bring the spoon to your lips and draw it in. Thus, with this small, humble presentation, we believe that some of you may have a few, if not many questions. Please feel free to ask your questions. Whether you wish to have a small break now or after, is up to you. What say you?

MARK: (To the others) Keep going?

(General consent)

JOSHUA K.: I have a question, Kris.

KRIS: As you would.

JOSHUA K.: A few weeks ago during a session here you asked us to list fifteen or twenty things that each one of us appreciate about ourselves and each day to contemplate that one thing that we appreciate about ourselves and each day to go to the next one and the next and you said after fifteen days, sort of the state of our consciousness would change, it would be like re-programming ourselves.

KRIS: We did say that after the first five to seven days the process will become easier, and within twenty-one days the ability to appreciate your own nature, your own qualities will indeed flow much more easily, creating then, a slow transformation of consciousness — nothing miraculous! — But sufficient to cause one indeed to wonder how they could have lived their lives in the other way before.

JOSHUA K.: That evening, I think the word “programming” your mind to become a more positive one.

KRIS: Indeed.

JOSHUA K.: I think that evening I also asked you if it is possible to exist or live a life that is not programmed at all. I would like you to expand on that. I’m very interested in that, a human consciousness that is not programmed at all either positively or negatively, but just living completely in the moment with no programs.

KRIS: Even living in the moment is a program. The minute, the very moment, the second consciousness interacts with the field of human reality as you understand it, requires a program that instills the process of transformation, of energy from one state to another, from the state of literally unseen to manifest, from the state of thought to the state of being perceived through the physical senses. Otherwise you do not venture forth into physical reality. Does that make sense to you?

JOSHUA K.: I understand what you’re saying….I can’t quite viscerally experience it yet. Intellectually, I’m understanding what you are saying.

KRIS: Even a rock, in your terms, needs a form of program to alter its energies from its native state towards that which appears to your senses as a rock. It is still energy, it is consciousness, but it will be projected in such a manner that to your senses, it is picked up, translated as rock, which to you or most individuals simply means innate, inanimate [and] therefore lifeless. But it is still composed of consciousness.

JOSHUA K.: So consciousness itself is programmed?

KRIS: Indeed.

JOSHUA K.: So it is programmed.

KRIS: Does that answer your question?

JOSHUA K.: Yes.

KRIS: Indeed.

DAVE: I have a question.

MARK: I’m sorry, your name?

DAVE: Sorry, my name is David.

KRIS: Indeed, welcome.

DAVE: Thank you. My question has to do with my daughter and my responsibility, if any, to her Essence from my Essence. I know that I have a connection with her and I’m struggling to understand my responsibility to her, or her to me, as we seem to be connected as two Essences.

KRIS: May we inquire as to her physical age?

DAVE: She’s 17.

KRIS: And how many grey hairs do you now have?

(Group laughter)

DAVE: She started at three years old to be a challenge.

(Raucous laughter)

KRIS: Indeed. Notice what that challenge has brought you apart from grey hairs. How has her appearance in your life been transformative?

DAVE: How has her life….I didn’t realize that life could be this difficult. My life was easy. My life was charmed.

MARK: She was your first born too, though.

DAVE: Yes. She has transformed my life into a pain.

MARK: Was she not a joy at first, though?

DAVE: Well….let me talk about the pain.

(Laughter)

She’s helped me to explore…..actually, very curiously, she’s helped me to understand that I am separate from other people, I suppose. She’s helped me to understand though, through reading and talking [that] I am connected to everyone, but more to this point to let her be separate from me, and the metaphor I use is I get into trouble when I become a lead role in her movie.

As long as I continue to be a supporting actor in her movie, or as soon as I try to direct her movie or star in her movie, co-star, I get into problems. But at the same time there is a huge urge in me inside that I know is true, that I want to help her and that I want to help her through these rough periods and that I support her in these things and to guide her with the knowledge that I have for her.

KRIS: As you have indicated, as long as you do not become the leading man, your life is safe, correct?

DAVE: No….well, it’s safe…it’s safe for me to stand by and have my heart torn out, broken, stabbed with steely knives…..But maybe that’s a little more dramatic than it needs to be.

KRIS: Indeed. Underneath the apparent discomforts this child has brought you, is an underlying current that, as you have pointed out, ties both of you together. Now, in another situation, you were rather overbearing, possessive, jealous, in some ways even cruel in some manners. You could not understand the depth of your own passions and jealousies, nor could you understand or even tolerate your wife’s independence and her almost unfathomable intelligence.

The two of you then agreed outside of the bonds of physical experience, to try this experiment again, but from different vantage points. This time from the perspective of a father-daughter relationship which would give both of you a very different perspective. This time you are less apt to lock her up or even abuse her merely because she speaks her mind.

You also both chose the specific historical period within which you would enact this drama and in particular for you, you have had to dig deep within yourself to reflect upon and even find courage to raise this entity in this way. There is still underneath all of this, a very deep bond and love that, we would even say surprises you. Is that correct?

DAVE: (Taking a very deep breath and speaking slowly and thoughtfully) I would say that definitely it has tested me…and I’ve had to reach very deep and gained a new understanding of myself in order to deal with what’s gone on in the last year.

KRIS: Indeed, because?

DAVE: I have always loved her and all my children and my wife, I have a deep, deep connection with them all. I don’t know that she is any more or any less than that. I know that there’s a powerful, powerful bond between us.

KRIS: Your envelope has been pushed many times.

DAVE: Oh, yes.

KRIS: But do not worry, the post office is always there. (Dave chuckles dryly) If you allow yourself to reflect upon how your understanding of the world may even have been shattered, but definitely expanded, and a new-found respect for what it is to deal with the human personality, you may even find some of the reasons why the both of you have engaged this type of relationship this time around.

We believe that perhaps about three more years time will pass before a radical change leads her into a different perspective. Both of you will find that through all of the horn-locking you indeed have evolved a very deep appreciation for each other’s qualities: perseverance, patience, and how you not only see each other, but see yourselves, each other. Does that make sense to you?

DAVE: Yes, it does. I’m wondering how involved I should be. My gut, my heart, and my head tell me I should be stepping back and allowing her to take….(Pause)…..I’m buffering the world from her right now. I’m keeping her out of jail right now, literally. So, I’m wondering what’s my responsibility?

KRIS: Truth be told, you are not responsible for her any more than your laws allow….and your heart allows. Other than that, we believe your best interactive principle would be from the sidelines, being there when there is a need for support. But do not take the blows, do not take the falls, do not cushion her falls.

Otherwise, how is she expected to learn from her own mistakes, regardless if from your perspective, you may wrap yourself with guilt knowing that perhaps you could have done something, thinking that perhaps words here, actions there would have saved her from a fall. The more you prevent, the more momentum she may pick up. Does that make sense to you?

DAVE: Yes, she has a choice right now. The lessons she may learn in prison, I’m not sure are the lessons I can….I can deal with her learning….but that may be something she has to learn.

KRIS: Again, as difficult as this may be for you, there is only so much you may be able to prevent her from doing. That again may set you up as the enemy. Do you understand?

DAVE: I’m the enemy in her life…yes, I understand…..yes…..yes….Thank you.

KRIS: You will need strength and it would likely be in your best interests for your own sake for some personal counseling if you are not already so involved, simply for you to determine what your boundaries are and how to set them up to balance your own existence. Does that make sense?

DAVE: Yep. It does.

KRIS: Other than that, do understand that both of you have chosen this interaction, as difficult as it may be, because the both of you have a dear need for the experience within your lives, what it brings, what it means.

And though you may feel dubious at best concerning some higher intent or purpose that either of you may have, there is a certain element of trust that can be incorporated here, that regardless of appearances, even if it seems that the locomotive is going too fast on the curve, that somehow or other she is still in control of her destiny, even at her darkest hour, and has a choice, a choice that expresses the highest values for her own self, just as you would incorporate the same trust within YOUR perspective. And build a new foundation from that point on. Do you follow?

DAVE: Yes. I do that actually, almost every day with her. We start fresh, let yesterday go and begin again to build trust with one another.

KRIS: Indeed. Not only to build trust with each other, but with yourself, as she will be incorporating trust within herself. Now, what is the time?

MARK: 8:25.

KRIS: Then we suggest a small break where you can each have a great deal of trust with each other.

(A short break and Kris returns at 8:32)

KRIS: (To Dave) As an aside to your previous discussion, whatever happened to your own rebellious nature? What did you do with the rebel in you? Did you ever allow him to come out?

DAVE: I remember the actual day when I was thirteen years old when I decided to put that rebel away and to allow other people to decide what and where I should go and what I should do. I let that rebel out and I’m afraid of what will happen, and I look at it every….yeah, oh every year, year and a half, I meet that rebel and I….I…that’s a good question.

KRIS: Perhaps a very simple little practice just for you. Once a month, you may even premeditate on this — once a month, even if you must use a small muffin with icing and sprinkles, put a candle in it, light the candle, and take, even if only a moment to celebrate the rebellious energy within you. To acknowledge it, to address it, and accept it. Then blow out the candle and go about your day and the rest of the month.

You see, regardless of the events, conditions, circumstances that seem to assail each and every one of you, sometimes even on a daily basis, it is not about the events, conditions and circumstances, but it is about YOU. Each of you, whether you blanch at the idea or not, your life is about you, is it not?

The government may have another idea, but that is their problem. That is why they collect your taxes. Other than that, your lives are about you. Therefore everything that occurs within your life is about you, plain and simple as the nose on Rudolph. And if you deny, suppress, ignore and JUDGE various portions of yourself, you may find that that energy seems to appear in your lives at the most inopportune times, drawing your attention in one way or another, because that energy wishes to let you know that you have severed it and condemned it to ignorance.

And it cannot not be part of your lives. The intention may be noble indeed, but the action itself is not constructive. Most people feel that if they accept their rebellious side, their sexual side, this side or that side of their personality, then they will go to hell in a hand basket, faster than popcorn in the microwave.

However, if they would actually engage the accepting, they would discover that quite contrary to popular misconceptions, they actually reclaim a part of their lives and there is indeed a deep rejoicing in that action. The self can be made whole. Ultimately it IS whole in every sense of the word, but when you divide it and divorce it, then there are actions and repercussions. Does that make sense?

JOHN: Absolutely.

KRIS: So for you a small celebration once a month in acknowledgment of your own rebellious energies may indeed bring peace you have thought lost. What do you have to lose? You have much to gain, and a nice icy muffin!

(Group laughter)

DAVE: Sprinkles.

KRIS: Indeed. If you must, you can also add a cherry on top.

DAVE: You see a rebel buried in me, is that what….?

MARK: There’s a rebel buried in all of us.

JOHN: You said at age thirteen that you buried it yourself.

DAVE: I wouldn’t call it a rebel.

LORRAINE: You called it a rebel.

DAVE: No, I didn’t.

LORRAINE: You said rebellion.

DAVE: No.

JOSHUA K.: What did you say?

DAVE: I continued with the rebel [designation], but Kris called it a rebel.

KRIS: Indeed. Now, do understand we may not be making allusions to a James Dean, but when energies or aspects of the self are considered unacceptable in one way or another, the normal energies together dig a mental pit and try to shove as much earth and dirt on top of it, much like piling pounds and pounds of mud under the carpet, thinking of course no one will ever find out! Overall we believe you understand the gist of this, so once a month, if you care, make a very small celebration only for yourself in acknowledgment of your being and see what comes of it.

Indeed, are there other lovely questions and by the way, do not feel the questions that you ask, hijacked. If you did this many times, perhaps someone would object.

DAVE: Thank you.

MARK: (To Rob) Go ahead.

ROB: Hi Kris, my name is Rob and I just have maybe an observation, and it just seems — maybe you can see if I’m on the right track — you are born and raised by a family with brothers and sisters and whatever, and it seems you are on a trek or on a mission to discover the world and to learn as much as you can from your experiences and all the responsibilities that come with being human. And it seems you get to a certain level or a certain maturity and you end up studying yourself.

And that’s kind of where I am right now, been a number of places in the world, done a lot of things, looking at my own retirement and kind of starting to ask some questions of the world, why am I here, what have I accomplished, has it been worthy and that sort of thing, only to discover that really, probably the grandest discovery of all is to study oneself. And it’s a much deeper subject than I ever — first of all, I never thought of doing such a thing — and it ends up being a much deeper subject than studying China or the Orient or Cuba.

KRIS: If we had a hat, we would take it off to you!

(Group chuckling)

Indeed, the individual chooses by arrangement the bloodline, the family line, the family, the individuals with which he will interact – or she. Then the individual leaves the nest after so many years, as have explained very nicely, seeks to discover the world. In actuality, the entire process is a study in the unfolding of your personality, of your being, family unit included.

The world, exotic and not-so-exotic places, and everything in between, are actually stages in the development of your ongoing personality. It is a structure that does not begin with birth and end at death, but continuous in various other stages, other than physical. You are at a stage where inner reflection, your capacity to understand, have now crossed paths, and indeed, if you do look back at your life, your youth, your childhood, right up to this moment, you may indeed discover that our words ring true.

That it is and has always been about discovering whom and what you are. And this applies to each and every one of you. Some people may go through their entire lives without a thought, but when the thought comes, the realization takes hold, then indeed the world is not the same place it was or that you thought it ever was because the world is not about the world, the world is about you.

Your view of the world, your interpretation of the world, how you resonate with that, the people you meet on the journey of life may each have unique characters and personas of their own, but they will only reflect various aspects of your own personality, truly the wise individual is he or she who reflects upon these things and accepts that his or her life is truly a miraculous unfolding. Does that make sense to you?

ROB: Yes it does. I’m wondering….my brother’s name, my brother John here…

KRIS: You know this brother of yours?

ROB: Yep, he’s our long-lost brother….only because he lives in Toronto…but um…his name –

KRIS: We have heard it said that many Torontonians are lost!

(Group chuckling)

KRIS: Please continue.

ROB: It depends on your perspective, but yes…..John, we know him by John because he’s my brother. I understand his Essence is….Sohars? Something like that, I don’t know if I’m pronouncing it properly, and I’m wondering….I suppose we all have Essences, we are Essences and we are taking a human form right now. I’m interested what my Essence name might be.

KRIS: Indeed.

ROB: If you knew.

KRIS: We would pronounce yours as “Rendrick.” Spelling might be R-E-N-D-R-I-C-K.

ROB: Thank you.

KRIS: (To Dave) Yours would be “Valance.” Not associated with any drapes that we know of.

(Laughter)

And as aside, your daughter that you spoke of is of the same Essence. Both of you are working out some very unique issues.

DAVE: We are of the same Essence?

KRIS: Indeed. Very same angles, perspectives.

DAVE: (Thoughtfully) Of the same Essence….Which one’s dominant?

(Laughter)

MARK: (Jokingly) Depends on the lifetime!

KRIS: Please feel free to continue.

ROB: Well, my friend Brad here is also a police officer, retired, and I’m sure he has a question and I’m sitting in the place maybe where he ought to sit….Brad, maybe if we switched places? Because the microphone is here. I’m sure you have a question.

KRIS: (To Brad) We trust that you enjoy being put on the spot?

(Laughter)

BRAD: I’m used to it. I was in a meditative state over there and I was just listening to you, very nice, very enjoyable. And I just would enjoy my Essence name?

KRIS: (Pause) Your Essence…not to say is unique as separate from others, but also enjoys unique perspectives. You are a very introspective individual. Though you sometimes speak your truth, we feel that you still hold back. You study, in your own mind, various ways that you might be able to express words and feelings. Does that make sense to you?

BRAD: Absolutely.

KRIS: Though on the surface, you might be considered a very physical individual, you are far more emotional and you utilize the physical as a shield to protect your emotional self. Does that also make sense?

BRAD: Absolutely.

KRIS: Now, we will not let anything else out of the bag.

(Laughter)

Your Essence, we would call “Illuma.” I-L-L-U-M-A, Illuma.

JOSHUA K.: Who decides on these names, Kris?

KRIS: They are simply interpretations that we give them. Essences do not have names, per se. There are times when it would simply be unintelligible in your human syntax, but you do each as Essence, have ways to communicate with each other and you recognize what we would simply call your energy signature. But in human terms you need to have some point of reference and we try to make it as lovely as possible.

BRAD: Thank you.

KRIS: Do you have another question?

BRAD: Indeed. The collective usually sends us intuition, feelings to act on, but in our confusing, competitive, egotistical world, we confuse other people’s contentions or directions for…..how do I say this?…..Your ego gets in the way of what your feelings should direct you towards. How do you filter that?

KRIS: A very interesting question, and if we are allowed, we would like to simply make a small editing. Firstly, the collective is always communicating. It is its very nature. That is why, in many ways, at the physical human level, your human fascination with communication and the speed of communication is so prevalent in your modern technological age. You are in some ways trying to mimic, even if it is unconscious, trying to mimic that greater communication that exists at those layers of Being.

Secondly, the individual does not necessarily have communications thrust upon him or her. The individual allows and invites those communications that are resonant with his or her state of Being, a communications that reflect his or her particular set of convictions and these are further interpreted and even misinterpreted again through various layers of the ego construction.

For some people, if they could only get the winning lottery numbers, then indeed, this would prove to them once and for all, absolutely, that all of this so-called mumbo jumbo has any truth in it at all. These are the people that would likely never get the right lottery numbers, because the underlying principle is that none of this is trustworthy, so they will simply keep programming themselves in that way and the physical world will confirm their beliefs. Do you follow so far?

BRAD: Absolutely.

KRIS: First and foremost, to develop your own intuitive or anyone’s intuitive abilities, there is a simple pre-requisite: Get to know who and what you are. Understand the nature of what is called reality creation. In other words, physical reality, the physical world, is a confirmation of what you believe, therefore if you want to know what you believe, look at the physical world, since it is a confirmation. As your beliefs change, that world will also change to confirm your beliefs. Does that make sense so far?

BRAD: So far.

KRIS: As you begin to understand the nature of what it is you believe through the process of examining your confirmations in the physical world, invite or allow deeper intuitive knowledge. And it can begin in this manner: we do not know exactly how many of you have pondered this before, but you went to school to do what? When you went to kindergarten or grade school, what did you do there? You learned to read, did you not? You learned to write, did you not? You learned to formulate syntax, sentences, string vowels and syllables and consonants into words after other words to create sentences to express thoughts, feelings and so on, correct?

BRAD: Correct.

KRIS: But did you go to school to learn to see? Did you go to school to learn how to think? You went to school to learn WHAT to think. HOW to think, you did that on your own. You HEARD on your own, you expressed a thought itself on your own. These are all innate qualities that preceded anything else you learned on top of that. Does that make sense?

BRAD: Yes.

KRIS: By revisiting, reflecting upon, introspecting upon, those earlier stages you might also stumble upon quite easily, stumble upon those innate processes that each and every one of you have always improvised over and above what you learned and how you learned to use or suppress them. Thus, by digging into those treasure chests of wisdom and innate knowledge, you can easily discover how to differentiate between the ramblings on the conscious mind and the signals and messages that come from those deeper layers.

And it does not take years and decades in order to appreciate those innate processes. They are still functioning. For instance, you may know what you want to express, but you may not necessarily know what word will come out of your mouth until you open it. Does that also make sense?

BRAD: Yes.

KRIS: So immediately there is a sampling of some of this innate knowledge and wisdom within you. By playing with these small concepts you can easily learn to differentiate and make use of that innate, intuitive nature. We do not believe that you can have it as simply put as that.

JOHN: Yes. Nicely done.

KRIS: Does that make sense to you?

BRAD: Yes.

KRIS: Indeed! Does that answer your question?

BRAD: Yes.

KRIS: Indeed. What is the time?

MARK: 8:59.

KRIS: Indeed, we suggest a small pause so that you might all look inside your minds and wonder what wonders you have neglected to explore!

(Short break and Kris returns at 9:08 PM)

KRIS: Now that you have all had some respite and enjoyed some discussion, perhaps there are other questions that you may ask.

SCOTT: My name is Scott Cameron and I would like to ask you what is your skill, what is your post-notes, what is an Essence? Are you reading karma? Do you feel body language or spirit? You’ve talked of people I know here tonight and parts of that I can only [say] “Oh, yeah, I know that, I’m with you, sitting beside you, what do you feel?” Where does it come from? Is it a learned, is it a natural gift?

KRIS: Old Chinese secret.

(Group laughs)

All kidding aside, you are all energy Beings, first and foremost. How you express that energy in physical terms is unique for each and every one of you, though there may be many similarities in those expressions. Your purpose for doing perhaps the same thing as your neighbor may be entirely different. Do you follow so far?

SCOTT: Yes.

KRIS: But again, first and foremost, you are energy. EVERYTHING is energy. Even though you see here a table that, to your senses, is stone and weighs approximately 200 or more pounds, ultimately that table is merely an amalgam of atoms and molecules of which they are the composite of units of consciousness. Your quantum physicists may be able to prove this intellectually but to your senses, if you walked into it, you would still end up with a very painful shinbone!

All of the physical manifestations aside, again, you are all energy, whatever that may mean to you. Non-corporeal energy structures, as we are. We do not have a physical form to express through as you do. You could say that we have given up for Lent!

(Laughter)

We are taking a break. When we communicate with you, we are aware of your corporeal AND non-physical structures. Our main interaction is at the non-physical level and there are times when we may incorrectly still interpret that energy structure. And there are other times when the flow is very nice indeed.

We do not specifically read energy, or tap into what is often called past lives or Akashic records as much as our enjoyment comes with the interaction itself, observing how the individual, in this case, you, would allow your own energy to interact with another energy structure and the added bonus being that you can be made aware of this to some degree. Some people less, some people more.

There is a great deal of enjoyment that comes from assisting another [to] have some degree of remembrance that they too are energy, first and foremost, whilst being physically expressed in physical reality. And that is part of our purpose, our intent is soliciting, eliciting, evoking even a distant din of remembrance of Essence; you being energy. And what is Essence, but the primordial principle within your life, meaning that it too, is more than the sum of all of your parts, and then some.

You may consider some of them to be past lives, future lives, probable lives, ultimate lives, ultimately they are the expression of that not quite physical energy structure that then takes it upon itself to express through the auspices of material nature, of the physical world, physical reality, a specific zone of creation unlike others where thoughts, feelings, emotions, perspectives, perceptions and a whole host of other qualifiers are transformed into physical expression.

Most individuals in your western world are convinced that they are nothing more, as we have stated very early on, nothing more than flesh and bone and once their time is up, once the grim reaper recalls their number, that is it, they are annihilated. And that creates a schism in the psyche of the individual who intuitively, subconsciously, has a knowing that his or her life is more than just the physical. But very little in your reality, especially in the western culture, actually reflects that yet.

So the individual may indeed become very frightened of his or her impending death and some individuals even begin reacting to that ultimate reality event years and decades before it ever occurs because they are told that at the end you are out like a candlelight.

And yet, deep within the individual there is a knowing that this is not so, “but nothing supports my inner knowing, therefore my inner knowing must be at fault.” That can indeed create a disturbance at the level of the psyche. So our humble intent is to assist the individual even in peeking behind the curtain of that kind of knowledge that is often forbidden. Does that make sense to you so far?

SCOTT: Yes. I’m following you.

KRIS: Please feel free to continue.

SCOTT: I don’t have a specific question.

KRIS: You may think one!

SCOTT: What is your gift? We’ve driven five hours to come and listen to you because you have a skill or a gift or something. People keep coming back.

MYRNA: I think I’ve already heard that, Scott, if I may? In just what Kris just said to you, us….I believe what I’ve learned is that in coming into physical reality I chose to forget my wider Self and in doing so experienced the physical on the material plane. I believe the gift that I heard Kris state is their joy in helping us remember that we are more than this.

KRIS: We believe that there is an old adage that you can give a man a fish to feed himself and he will eat and be hungry later, but if you can teach the man to build a fishing pole, a fishing line and a hook and find bait, he will then be able to feed himself. Does that make sense?

SCOTT: Yes.

KRIS: Then in all humility, if we were to consider a gift per se, it would be that if we can teach one human being to make a fishing pole, a line, a hook, and find bait and then fish for himself or herself, then indeed we would consider our purpose fulfilled. Does that make sense to you?

SCOTT: Yes.

KRIS: Other than that, our intent is to reflect your individual gifts in one way or another. Do you also understand that?

SCOTT: No, not that last statement. Would you say it again?

KRIS: If we could voice in some way, fashion, or another, the energy, the exaltation, (Kris goes into his “rolling thunder” voice) the exuberance and the vitality of life that you all very often are afra-a-a-i-i-d to touch, that you must wear white gloves, with our own energies then if we can help you take off the white gloves and jump in the mud of life and wrestle as you would and enjoy yourselves, then again, our purpose is fulfilled.

When you think that life may be FRIGHTENING, when you consider that you MUST FEAR it, lest it BITES you, then already you are as defeated as you will ever be, but if you change your perception and consider life as a very RICH soil, waiting, already tilled, waiting for the seeds of your thoughts, your enjoyments, your pleasures, so that it can take those seeds and transform them into sequoias, then how gigantic, how HEROIC and how transformed your life is (Kris claps his hands) INSTANTLY!

(Soberly) So it is for you to decide if you will meet life (in sorrowful tones) as a conquered, vanquished, defeated individual (forcefully and loudly) or if you will open your arms and greet the rising sun as your brother and together you will create untold wonders during this one day going into late at night, thinking how you will do the same tomorrow, then you have nothing to fear of life, for there is no fear there. You are victorious. You are masters of your destiny.

MYRNA: Or in some cases, mistresses.

KRIS: As well!

MYRNA: (Chuckling) May I build on that energy that you just pulled into the room here?

KRIS: Are yo-o-o-u certain?!

MYRNA: (Laughing) Kris, there’s an opportunity in the next day or so for Lorraine and I, around a particular business project and I’m speaking for Myrna, I won’t speak for Lorraine. I want to approach the next 24 hours really high energy around this. My automatic response is fear of failure and disappointment, you know, I have a dream.

KRIS: May we butt in here as the But-in-skies that we are?

(Group Laughter)

MYRNA: You certainly may.

KRIS: Indeed. You say your “automatic response.” How did it become automatic?

MYRNA: The moment I can feel myself getting really excited about the possibility of a dream [coming true], I go (claps hands) “That’s not gonna happen. I’m going to get heartbroken. That’s not gonna happen. I’m too scared.”

MARK: (Pointedly) And how did that happen?

KRIS: That is correct. How did that come to be?

JOHN: (Whispering) Repetition, habitual repetition.

MARK: Allowing. You allowed it, for one.

MYRNA: I allowed…what? The opposition, the opposing energy?…Habit!…Beliefs turning into a habit.

KRIS: What is a belief but a thought that you have focused upon and through association and compounding have made it into something it is not? You have made it into a truth and yet, that truth is a lie. The only truth that exists here is that you have thought that your forests of sequoias….may it be frightening?

MYRNA: I’m sorry…I have thought that my forest of sequoias what?

KRIS: May it be frightening?

MYRNA: (Pause) I never thought of it that way.

KRIS: You have been on the west coast. Have you not seen the big redwoods?

MYRNA: Yes.

KRIS: You may not have seen sequoias, they are usually further south, but the redwoods are still big. Do you remember being near any of them?

MYRNA: In Stanley Park, yes.

KRIS: What happened when you looked up?

MYRNA: Actually the trunks of the trees….I loved it.

KRIS: Did it give you a sense of expansion? A sense of that you yourself might be a part of that sequoia?

MYRNA: Yes.

KRIS: Even if subjectively.

MYRNA: Yep. I love the feeling of expansion.

KRIS: Then focus on that imagery, in fact, not only of one, but an entire forest, as far as the horizon is visible to your mental eyes. Pretend this very moment, now, that you are in a vast field of giant sequoias, as far as the eye can see. And since this is your imagination, you can see much further than your regular eyes. What kind of feeling do you perceive here?

MYRNA: I feel like I’m riding the….riding the air….yes.

KRIS: Tap into that energy every time that little gremlin in your mind says (Kris smacks his palms and whispers something to soft to be recorded) then tell him to go sit on a sequoia!

(Group laughter)

[Someone asks what a sequoia is.]

MYRNA: I think they’re big cactuses?

JOHN: No, fir trees.

KRIS: Giant red pines.

MYRNA: Oh, okay.

KRIS: Simply tap into that feeling-tone. Utilize it to inundate your zone. Make it your vibration, if you wish. It is not that difficult.

JOHN: And then this becomes the new automatic response.

MYRNA: Yeah, I like this. That’s easy! I like that practice.

LORRAINE: And fun.

MYRNA: Yeah.

KRIS: Now, when we raise our voice to reflect your own energies, what did you feel in the room? And this is open to any of you.

JOHN: It felt good. It felt powerful.

LORRAINE: I felt joy. I felt release.

MARK: It felt meaningful.

KRIS: [Smiling] We would not touch that with a ten-foot pole!

(Group laughter)

MYRNA: I felt my….I’ve had trouble recently with my throat. I felt my voice…thunder.

KRIS: That is the key. When we do this, it is to remind you (Loudly) of the thunderous voices in your own being! The energy that is yours [and] the exuberance and the vitality that often you fear expressing. Perhaps you do not want to stand out. Perhaps you are even afraid of your own energies. Every once in awhile we turn the tap on. It is, we believe, the best draft you can have. Are there any other questions?

LORRAINE: Yes. I think one of my great fears is the fear of my strength, my power. (To Dave) When I heard you talk about having, you know, at age thirteen, having to put away that part of you….. I probably did it around the age of one or two in order to survive my mother and have had various images of that same person around in my life and I’m quite aware they were all there for a purpose and some are still there. I….yeah, I would say I’m afraid to let out that power, for fear of what …

KRIS: If you were to be an animal, what animal would you be?

LORRAINE: I think of two. One is Pegasus, and the other is a tiger.

KRIS: Good! At least you did not choose to be a mouse.

LORRAINE: (Chuckling) No.

KRIS: Because tigers eat mice. If you were to be a tiger, would you be a Siberian tiger, a Himalayan White tiger? Choose one.

LORRAINE: Himalayan White.

KRIS: Indeed. And would you simply sit in a cave watching the world go by or would you follow your instincts? You are hungry, your sense of smell tells you supper is nearby. Your muscles become more limber and tense as you begin the hunt! Do you feel that?

LORRAINE: Yes!

KRIS: Feel it every day. When you wake up and become lucid and conscious, take a moment to think of the tiger, his sense of smell…..smells the world, knows his hunger and goes on the hunt. And play with that energy, let it infuse your being. And have fun.

LORRAINE: And I can just….I need to understand how I can take that energy and stand in front of a group of people, as a speaker…where I can speak as Lorraine…and connect to them from who they are…

KRIS: Consider the tiger with her cubs. Eventually she will teach them how to be tigers. How to smell and then go on the hunt. Relate to them, then, as cubs, with your energy. Lorraine is much more than what shows up as a reflection in the mirror. Does that make sense to you?

LORRAINE: Yes.

KRIS: Have fun with the energy.

LORRAINE: Thank you.

KRIS: You are indeed most welcome. Essence name for you is Saggan. S-A-G-G-A-N.

LORRAINE: What does that mean?

KRIS: It has no particular meaning…. (Pause)… Now, what is the time?

MARK: 9:38.

KRIS: Then indeed, we will take leave of your lovely selves, (Loudly) your lovely EXUBERANT selves! Tigers and sequoias oh, my! And we again thank you for your consideration.

ALL: Thank you, Kris.

(Session ends.)

Kris Radio: Time for Time

January 12, 2007

Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Lisa Q. Pratt (Lauromar)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on January 12, 2007

MARK: Hi! We are on the air and this is Kris Chronicles, Kris Radio 2007 and we’re back! I’m Mark Bukator and I’m here with…

JOHN: And I’m John Hawkins, very happy to be here too.

SERGE: And I’m Serge. And welcome to our first show of 2007.

MARK: A meaningful show. While we wait for Kris to make his appearance, I just wanted to say that this will probably be a call in show, but we ask that you don’t phone until Kris asks you too, till he opens the phone lines. The number to phone will be 416-204-9723 and if you do call in, we ask that you turn down the sound on your computer because there is a delay, and it doesn’t quite work.

SERGE: It’s feedback.

MARK: Also, all this… Kris often refers back to tools that he uses and meditations and practices, and all this information from these past sessions are all available on the Kris chronicles website, that’s w-w-w-K-R-I-S chronicles dot com (krischronicles.com)

JOHN: Yes, and so we’re looking forward to a very interesting evening tonight of course. It’s been a little bit of a break over the Christmas holidays and just so that in case Kris does talk a little bit about his theme for this year, he has declared that this is the year of meaningfulness and that is following up on last year’s theme of enlightenment through compassion.

MARK: Yes, he’s been naming a few years now.

JOHN: Did he name one before last year?

MARK: Yeah.

JOHN: What was it?

MARK: I can’t remember.

JOHN: Must have been

SERGE: It was based on

MARK: A series of most fortunate events.

JOHN: That’s right.

MARK: So also, we would really appreciate to let us know who you are out there. If you want, after the show, go to newworldview.com, to the forums there, and let us know what you think about the show and where you’re calling from or…

SERGE: Or just send an e-mail to…

MARK: Kris… what’s our e-mail?

(Laughter)

SERGE: krischronicles@gmail.com Any feedback is welcome. Things that you might like Kris to discuss as well in future shows.

MARK: Oh yeah definitely, topic ideas.

SERGE: Things that would be interesting, suggest some topics and just have fun with it!

MARK: Some of our upcoming events, we will be in Australia in March, we’re gonna be holding four workshops there and…

SERGE: We have one in Sydney, one in Melbourne, one in Brisbane, and one in New Castle. All that information is on our website as well, and if you know people in Australia in the land down under, let them know and most likely they can visit with us when we’re there.

JOHN: Yes well, it’s wonderful to realize that we have to fill in the space now, between now and when Kris comes… and to do that with some kind of grace…

(Chuckling)

JOHN: Let me say that… well honestly if you haven’t… obviously anybody listening is on the internet, I think we can assume that, right? And that means that they can go to krischronicles.com and check out that stuff but they can also go to new world… newworldview.com and check out the discussions which is an area that I find particularly helpful and basically for each Kris event that I attend personally, I put up a recap and so you may want to look in the Kris chronicles section for a recap of tonight’s show… should appear sometime tomorrow if you want a focal point for your own comments.

MARK: There are all kinds of discussions regarding Kris’ material that he’s presented over the years, all kinds of practices, adventures in practices and how they work for people. So now we just gotta wait for the dead guy here.

(Pause)

As you can tell, we’re missing Laurie, she’s very good at filling in the dead air space for us. (Chuckling)

JOHN: (whispering) He’s here.

MARK: Here we go.

KRIS: Now we trust that you are comfortable and we thank you for your consideration, those near and far. We would like to continue our earlier presentation each time adding various angles, aspects, perspectives, points of view on this topic of meaningfulness.

Your modern society is indeed quite a creative orchestration. So much is taking place and happening, especially in industrialized nations so much so that it is often difficult for individuals to make sense not only of this society they live in, but ultimately and principally of themselves. Your modern world, for the last five or so hundred years and especially since the industrial revolution seems to be picking up more and more speed, things seem to be happening faster and faster. More is demanded of the individual than ever before, and those demands come in faster than ever before.

You live in an age of instant information. You live in an age that is almost beyond instant gratification. For some even, instant gratification is so yesterday, so dot com as they often say, and these paradigms only seem to accumulate faster and faster. Many people eat on the run when they eat at the restaurant, some even call for the taxi as they begin to eat their dessert, knowing that in but a few spoonfuls, they must already be out the door, demands on their personal and professional time and lives is almost suffocating. Burnouts at work are more and more common.

In Japan for instance, thousands of individuals die on a yearly basis simply from work burnout. In other nations, stress is often talked about and mentioned but the extent of its pervasiveness is not truly known yet, but its effects can be seen in almost every corner of your society. And though the individual seems to be run by the clock, by the watch, by time, there are many underlying effects that are not yet recognized which we hope to address. But first and foremost, we would ask you here and the listener, what is the first thing you do in the morning?

MARK: Turn off the alarm clock.

KRIS: What do you do before that?

MARK: Before the alarm goes off?

KRIS: Before you turn it off.

MARK: Wake up. (Chuckling)

KRIS: (To John) How would you answer that?

JOHN: First thing I do in the morning, I kind of drift out of whatever the dream I was having into a kind of a soft fuzzy place and I roll over and stretch.

MARK: I find that that alarm clock just jars me right out of any dreams I’m having and often forget the dream.

KRIS: The majority of people look at the time and immediately, the demands and your schedule, for those who have one, which is largest segment of society, starts trickling in at an ever faster rate and within seconds, the game is on, and the demands of the day engulf the individual.

Time, as you utilize it in your society is no longer seen as merely a point of reference and commonality that unites various regions of a country for instance, but instead is utilized to rule the day. Benjamin Franklin, we believe said is so nicely: “time is money’. And since your present culture is run by and depends entirely on money, then time is very precious indeed. We would even say one of your most precious of commodities. Thus the individual is often ruled by the clock and there is never enough time in the day to do everything that is demanded of the person thus people feel more and more rushed to do more and more with less and less.

You live in a society where you are expected to multitask, perhaps even rival your new dual core processors. There are even organizations who feel that their employees are not doing enough if they do not perform as would ten employees without any due consideration for the individual himself or herself. Simply that, time is money, and more money is needed, therefore make more with the time that you have. Does that make sense?

MARK: Oh, very much so.

JOHN: Yes it’s interesting, just a comment, Kris. The interesting thing about time is that in terms of clock time, you can’t ever get any more than 24 hours in a day but in terms of psychological time which we deny ourselves with this rushing around, you actually can squeeze in an hour into a few moments’ contemplation.

KRIS: Indeed. And there is a very good explanation and reason. Because most individuals on your world have very little clue about inner or psychological time then everything is run by the clock. It is pervasive, invasive and pretty much a ticking dictator. Few individuals that are preoccupied with the modern world may actually understand what is happening to them but do understand that burnout means they have blown a fuse so to speak because the human being does not run on clock time.

The human body has its own internal clock that is based on bio and psychological time. Your biology is indeed a reflection of psychological time, inner time. And when the individual begins to decelerate psychologically and psychically, begins the process of slowing down, taking the time indeed to smell the roses or any pretty flower, something different happens. The mad rush to produce, produce, produce no longer bites at one’s heels. And many of your modern ills can actually be neutralized, even eliminated from your human condition and it does not mean that you will return to an age of horse and buggy but you would definitely have a saner society.

Indeed there are wonderful amenities and secondary gains from the type of society that you have organized. All types of pretty gadgetries, machines of all sorts, entertainment – quite likely that your species has not seen for hundreds of thousands of years, even cycles. You can even buy products that will make your whites whiter, your teeth brighter, your hair shinier, your sex lives more interesting but you pay a heavy handed price. Any ideas what that is?

MARK: Health, happiness, pleasures.

KRIS: Indeed.

MARK: There’s been some studies done fairly recently where they’ve found that having more choice actually causes depression in more people. In the old days there used to say, be two pairs of jeans to choose from in the store, you’d picked the one that fit you the best and you were comfortable with that. Now there’s a hundred pairs and you think you should find the pair that fits you perfectly and you try them all on and you pay a fortune for it and you still can’t find the one that makes you feel comfortable.

KRIS: And there is a reason for this. The more choices you have presented before you means it takes more time.

MARK: Good one.

KRIS: And people nowadays do not want to spend more time making decisions. People want their gratification NOW and now is not soon enough. People want what they want when they want it instantly and that does present an enormous amount of stress on the psychology of the individual especially when such an individual refuses to understand the simple biology of his body. Living in a high state of stress creates neurological and bio-chemical confusion. The entire system especially the immune system becomes depleted because living at such an accelerated rate is no different than living in a war zone where you will be attacked at any moment therefore your stress levels are usually maintained at the highest order all the time.

Over the last several decades, people have lost much sleep time and the bit of sleep time they do have is spent at shallower levels of sleep. There is always a sense of urgency even in the time that one should be utilizing to recuperate and repair the body and the mind. People become so very preoccupied with filling as much time as is humanly possible with so much of what they need to do, they have no time left for understanding who and what they are.

This type of approach to civilization creates a society of individuals who actually do feel disenfranchised, who feel neglected, unimportant, who feel that their lives are meaningless because they have become the servants of the economy. They have become the servants of the clock and not the other way around. When all that concerns a corporation is the bottom line at the expense of the individual, then you end up with a society of automatons that have a very short shelf life, an expiration date that is very short indeed.

There are many countermeasures that can be effectively brought about to create a different atmosphere and as we suggested moments ago, it does not mean that you need to return to the age of horse and buggy but it does mean that the individual can create a safe zone, a completely different inner paradigm through which he or she can still effectively navigate the currents of modern society but not be affected by its influences.

This includes above all else, a return to an understanding that the individual’s own life is meaningful apart from the mad dash of modern society and there is indeed no need to feel this will create alienation but indeed will create a more productive, stronger and healthier individual both physically, psychologically and mentally because said individual, meaningful individual would recognize that he or she is not slave to his or her watch but instead gives meaning to his or her life because he or she is the meaning of his or her life. Does that make sense so far?

MARK: Yes, indeed.

(John confirms)

KRIS: So it is one fine thing to say that individuals live at such a mad pace because it is their preference. We are not particularly fond of that explanation.

MARK: It’s interesting how ingrained it has become in us, even when we do manage to take a vacation we usually rush through that.

JOHN: Yes, I don’t think that it’s fair to say that it’s a preference at all. I think the vast majority of people who are getting involved in this rat race as we call it, haven’t chosen it consciously at all, they’ve just been railroaded into it by school and jobs and…

KRIS: Indeed. Your whole system is geared to producing an individual that will produce, produce, produce, on time, on time, on time.

MARK: Corporations…

KRIS: Much like the white rabbit down the hole. “I’m late, I’m late, I’m horribly late. For what? No one knows, but I’m late.”

MARK: Corporations have even come up with a new time theft where they’re dismissing employees who are… already have their coats on when they punch out.

KRIS: Indeed. That would indicate then that there are time police.

MARK: Yeah.

KRIS: It is a very prominent phenomenon of your modern nuclear age. Some of its problems however also lead to individual nuclear explosions.

(Chuckling)

JOHN: Meltdowns.

KRIS: That is correct, individualized and societal meltdowns. And these express themselves interestingly enough through all sorts of phenomenology, burnouts, different kinds of psychosis, neuroses, individuals who become anti-social, and one of the most prevalent in the western world: rage.

JOHN: Going postal.

KRIS: Indeed.

MARK: Road rage.

KRIS: Any kind of rage. Line up rage, grocery store rage, the individual at the cash (register) packing his or her groceries too slowly for you? What do you do? You beat them up. This has happened many times.

MARK: All one has to do is turn on the TV or open the newspaper and there’s all kinds of examples.

KRIS: And that may indeed be part of the problem.

(Chuckling)

MARK: True.

KRIS: What does you society concentrate upon? Look at what is in the newspapers, in the news media, everywhere.

MARK: So true.

KRIS: More pressure to pressure the individual to conform to the demands of the economy and of the times, pardon the pun.

MARK: So it would be a good thing to jump right to the funnies.

KRIS: Indeed. It does become problematic when you have to tell a friend that you will move this appointment, that appointment, the other appointment and if they move this appointment, that appointment and that other appointment, perhaps in two weeks’ time, you will have between 2:15 and 2:30 to have coffee.

MARK: So true.

KRIS: And yet, such is not that far-fetched when spouses have to make appointments to spend some time together, there is indeed something troubling in the state of Denmark. Now what is the time?

MARK: 7:35

KRIS: Perhaps we can suggest a small break and we will return to continue and then open the lines afterwards.

JOHN: Okay.

(Musical interlude)

MARK: We’re back! And John here was just talking about…

SERGE: Just in time, I hear?

(Laughter)

MARK: John was just talking about our New Year’s eve session that is now online where Kris talked about ‘more’. And in order to have more, like more money…we often clutch it and hoard it as if there is no more, but it’s often you have to give it away, knowing and then to trusting that there is more and then from there…

JOHN: Yes, what struck me was… during that New Year’s session which is online, Kris made an interesting point. He said that when you… the way to ensure that you always had more of something, more money, more love, more relationships, more wisdom, more peace, more tranquility, more whatever you want, the way to ensure that you always had more of that was to give it away freely. The message to the unconscious when you do that is, ‘I can give this away freely, because there’s more, lot’s more coming.’

On the other hand, if we are clutching it and hanging on to it and not spending it or not giving it away or not being free with it, then the message to the subconscious is ‘hey there’s not enough of this’ and of course the subconscious says ‘okay there’s not enough of that’ and that’s the reality we’re gonna create. And so I thought I’d apply that to the time… the ideas about time the Kris has been discussing and I think that one of the problems with clock time is that it shaves time down into literally thousands of seconds now, I think they’ve gotten it, to the point where you’re trying to capture every possible moment…

MARK: And there’s never enough in the day.

JOHN: Exactly, whereas if we were to give it away freely, and say I’ve got all the time in the world, then we would have all the time in the world.

KRIS: Your observation and points are well taken but it is at the base of this individual or individualized war with time that the tyrant is demanding more and more production and the individual increases in resentment towards the demands. But with no proper psychological outlet to vent the frustrations and resentments then tensions rise, blood pressure boils. The individual often engages in actions outside of the realm of his normal range of actions, that is what is clinically called psychoses and neuroses and this creates a great deal of additional tensions and demands on the individual because he or she does not know often what is at of the base of his or her difficulties.

Psychologically, the individual understands his meaningfulness. There is indeed an innate perception of being meaningful but when it is being prevented from being expressed, when the entire social structure, as you have it in your world, is geared to denying the individual, not only is his or her individuality but meaningfulness, trying to establish an artificial order where the individual serve little other purpose than to produce, then warring factions usually begin to take hold within the individual. Does this make sense to you?

MARK: All too well.

JOHN: Absolutely. You’re taking a little too long to say that, though.

(Laughter)

KRIS: The individual, the person, can regain a foothold, can reclaim his or her psychological territory and overthrow in a manner of speaking of course, we are in no way shape or form advocating anything else, but the individual can overthrow that particular lifestyle of faster and more and more and faster and establish an inner safe zone. And it can be done through many different avenues and in no way does it even imply that the individual will now become slow-paced.

But all of these various things, whether it is meditation, yoga, so many other avenues that help the individual reclaim that sense of ownership of himself or herself, then said individual can actually become more productive because he or she is now being productive from a healthy standpoint with sure footing in the knowledge that the root of his or her being is under his domain. He or she is his or her own boss and it is not something that needs to be done yesterday. It is experimentation with a totally different order of time. A time frame based upon biological and psychological functions innate to the individual human being.

Such individuals can indeed be more productive because they are better able to have a deeper sleep thus be more rejuvenated, refreshed, more alert, able to think with clarity, with conscientiousness, perceive their position within their society from a point of view that simply says that ‘I am the boss of me and things go by my watch’ whether the individual chooses to wear one or not is irrelevant. When the individual is healthier, his or her activities reflect that state of mind. And it does not prevent anyone from utilizing any of modern life’s amenities in any way, shape or form. It simply requires a totally different perception. You can still even run fast but it will be done under your zone. Does that make sense to you?

MARK: Yes it does and it… something I’ve discovered very recently at work is when I perceive myself to be meaningful, to be effective, and allow for my whole self to be participating in my day, I find my day slows down automatically. The pace, the whole pace changes and it’s more than just my perspective but the physical day does change. My workload lessens.

KRIS: That is correct because you are not winding yourself up beyond your own capacities and your work, anyone’s work within that zone will reflect that added quality as opposed to one person doing three, four or more tasks and ending up not doing one of them well, all of them mediocre or worse, that only requires someone else to spend more time to patch it up. Do you follow?

MARK: Oh yes.

KRIS: So when one person does one job very well, it is done. And there is in the end a sense of personal satisfaction and accomplishment. Where is the sense of personal satisfaction and accomplishment when you try to do ten jobs, each one worse than the last? That only compounds the problem does it not? Because then there is a sense of failure, there is the sense of not being able to do anything properly. Personal value fulfillment then degrades. So it is possible then to recuperate all of these things.

JOHN: Kris if I can just ask a question.

KRIS: Indeed.

JOHN: You have I think outlined brilliantly the issues facing us around clock time and the time police and you’ve hinted that there is a way for us to create an inner safety zone where we are in tune with our biological and psychological time. What’s missing for me is an actual process or technique…

KRIS: In due time.

(Laughter)

JOHN: Okay.

MARK: (kidding) But we want it now!

KRIS: Now therefore, when you begin to observe that your functioning within society disenfranchises you, depersonalizes you, creates the feeling of being invisible, that you do not matter, the only thing that would matter is how fast and how good you can do something better and faster. These are all the effects, not the cause. Do you follow so far?

MARK: Yes.

KRIS: So it is not the demands of society and its machinery that are causing this even though it may appear that way that the symptoms are neuroses, psychoses, etcetera. But that the individual has already lost his personal sense of meaning and therefore it is reflected in his environment and it seems then that he is a little more than a tiny sprocket in a huge machinery that will only continue to eat him up. Do you follow?

JOHN: Yes.

KRIS: These are indeed then the confirmation of inner beliefs about lack of self-worth, lack of meaningfulness and so on and so forth. So instead of taking umbrage and attacking the system and the society, the individual can indeed transform his or her experience of that society by reclaiming ownership of their sense of validation, of their sense of meaningfulness, personal values and so on. But it does require some form of practice. It will not occur by itself until the individual directs his or her thoughts, his or her inner actions in that direction and sets into motion the momentum necessary to reclaim this. Then the external environment, what you call material nature, the physical world, reality, will only confirm and be a testament to the changes in your or the individual’s own belief structures. Does this make sense?

JOHN: Absolutely.

MARK: Yes.

KRIS: Thus at the core already is a pre-existing condition and society merely confirms and does not cause. We may have initially presented our discourse this evening as if the society and the social structure is responsible, but that is not the case. We brought the point to a head. Do you understand?

MARK: Oh yes.

JOHN: Yes.

KRIS: Thus how do you cure the society?

MARK: In order to change the world, you must start with yourself.

KRIS: Because what do you see around you?

MARK: Is my world…

KRIS: The world is a reflection of you, your states of perception. So by altering the paradigm of who you are and what you mean to yourself, you can immediately draw a transformation that will be confirmed. But this is not something that will be done in 2 minutes. It will certainly never be accomplished in microwave time. We have heard there are people who put their microwave on and then yell at it to go faster, tell it to hurry. It will not be accomplished in this way. The individual needs then to cultivate a sense of appreciation and recognize that they are meaningful first and foremost unto themselves. They are the meaning of their life. We have said this before and we will say it many more times. You are the meaning in your life. You are the meaning of life. Does this make sense to you?

MARK: Yes.

JOHN: Absolutely, we’re getting into the good stuff.

KRIS: Indeed. It is said that to grow wonderful flowers you need some manure.

(chuckling)

MARK: It’s interesting that you did bring up microwave time cause I find that cooking dinner, or like having a good Sunday dinner and cooking it and taking the time to create such a thing is a wonderful way of achieving this.

KRIS: But who has time for this?

MARK: Gotta make time.

KRIS: Indeed and that is the point. Begin to make time to enjoy perhaps at the beginning, the small things. The laughter of children, a bird singing in the background, the rain falling on the window pane or the skylight, the breeze caressing the leaves and the trees or even caressing your hair and face, the sun shining on the surface of the brook, river, lake, ocean, the clouds slowly drifting on by in all of their beautiful puffiness. The bee buzzing from one flower to another, spreading pollen, the fact that you breathe should be most meaningful indeed! The fact that you are should be extremely meaningful.

Even the creative wonders of your modern age can definitely be appreciated if you first and foremost appreciate the meaningfulness of you being. It often takes but a few moments to actually stop running around like a chicken with its head cut off to breathe, to see the beauty in the world that you normally would not give the time to, and understand that there is only one reason and cause there is beauty in the world, and that is because you give it that interpretation. Would the rose, the rainbow, the butterfly, the ruby throated…

JOHN: Hummingbird.

KRIS: Indeed! Any beauty in the world, would it have any beautiful meaning if you did not give it such? No.

MARK: I’m reminded of a short story. Two days before Christmas, Serge and I decided that we needed to hit the mall, the dreaded mall Saturday before Christmas and it was stressing… just the thought of it. But we walked into the mall and the very first store we saw was one of those backrub stores and we looked in and there was nobody there and they had these masseuses there… so the very first thing we did was get a 15 minute backrub each and it changed the whole experience of that shopping experience of that day.

KRIS: Indeed! Then you could go about shopping with a painful back!

(Laughter)

KRIS: But yes! Small delicious things that you can do for yourselves are not a waste of your time but indeed a means to cultivate more of your time. Do not hold time as if it is something you must fight against. Give yourselves the time to reflect upon your own beautiful and lovely natures, your creativity, and notice how you truly are meaningful to yourselves.

MARK: To quote one of the Star Trek movies “time is not an animal that stalks us but is there rather to accompany us on the journey.”

KRIS: Indeed. Unfortunately many people see it as a dark beast that will swallow them whole. And if they only can run fast enough, maybe time will be outrun. Now what is the time?

MARK: 8:02.

KRIS: Indeed. Perhaps another few moments of interlude would be appropriate. And after which perhaps there can be some callers since the show we believe is now an hour and a half.

MARK: Indeed.

(Musical interlude)

MARK: And we’re back! Once again this is a call in show and when Kris comes back he’s going to… not maybe… not immediately… but he will announce to call in. The number to phone will be 416-204-9723. Once again please, when you call in, please turn down the volume on your computer and listen through the phone because of the lag on your computer and please keep your questions and comments at this time relative to the topic… and Kris is coming back.

KRIS: Indeed. We are open to allowing call-ins, so feel free to dial those numbers and we will do our best to answer your questions. In the meantime, do consider that it is to your advantage to make allowances for these reflections upon yourselves where you fit in to your social structure primordially from the perspective of a meaningful individual and not one who is so pressured as to be ready to explode.

At the bottom of this you will find first and foremost that your sense of individuality, in particular your meaningful position within the universe will definitely carry you through the day in a totally different way. One that is enjoyable, one that brings about the beautiful expressions of your inner being reflected throughout your world, reflected in the society that you live in. That is how you change the world from the inside out first and foremost. Other than that, and otherwise, you will simply demand that the world change to suit your demands faster.

JOHN: Okay Kris I just have a quick question which kinda comes from my thinking about people who might be listening. Let’s say that I’m going through my day and various events come together and at a certain point I find myself looking at my watch and saying ‘oh my god, I don’t have enough time’. I think that’s a very common experience.

KRIS: Indeed it is.

JOHN: Now the first thing that comes to my mind as a possible different perspective on that is to sit back when you say… you look at your watch and say ‘oh my god, I don’t have enough time’ …sit back and contemplate for just a moment the fact that you’re an eternal being, and being eternal means that you certainly have enough time.

(Chuckling)

KRIS: Indeed. As an eternal, immortal being, you have no need to be stamped with an expiration date.

MARK: Something Kris just mentioned, getting away a little bit from time but… is the way we do judge ourselves, like so much of our problems, be it health or psychological issues are based upon how we judge ourselves and the lack of meaningfulness. I remember growing up and not feeling that value fulfillment, not feeling effective or a part… sort of an outcast and definitely created some issues in my life that I’m still trying to work out.

KRIS: When you do judge yourselves in this manner, then what occurs?

JOHN: Then the world judges you that way too.

KRIS: That is correct because that is the kind of feedback you are demanding. That is what you are instilling into reality that you be judged along the lines that you judge and criticize yourselves thus the world reflects and confirms those beliefs.

MARK: Oh and we do that so well don’t we?

KRIS: Absolutely! In that you cannot be faulted, your creativity deserves an A+. At the same time you can also take into consideration a very small exercise indeed. In your left wrist, you have this bone here.

MARK: Hmm. What do we call that? On an angle from the thumb, it’s far away in the wrist.

KRIS: Simply pressing this with your right thumb and at the same time acknowledging your present state of mind, addressing the situation, thus utilizing the triple A, acknowledging your state of mind, addressing the situation by the physical pressure on the wrist bone at the bottom of the palm and then accepting that even though this is your present frame of mind there is another state of awareness beneath the hectic and frantic pace of modern life. It is a pace that has been with humankind even before humankind was humankind, before the stars were born, before the sun reflected its warmth. A frame of mind that is eternal indeed and in that frame of mind there is a different time in operation.

It is an eternal now and in this eternal now there is a great deal of peace, personal fulfillment and value in recognizing the individual meaningfulness of your being. Taking a few deep breaths as you focus upon this, and if you so desire, in your mind’s eye, whether you pretend or imagine, just see and remember those times when you heard the rain fall gently on the rooftop or on the window pane. Those times when you saw the sun rise to chase away the mist and the fog. Those times when you saw perhaps a newborn babe smile and giggle at you or those times when you felt joy that seem to express itself in you merely because it was a wonderful experience to do this and any other wonderful positive memories, feeling-tones, visual tones, auditory tones.

Perhaps there were even times when you took the time to stop and smelled the roses, the lavender or you smelled the air after a summer rainstorm or you saw a beautiful sunset in a tropical setting and smelled the tropical plants release their delicious intoxicating and sweet aromas or perhaps you were even in a chocolate factory. Any, any memories, thoughts along those lines and notice what happens with your blood pressure, with your heart rate. Your own frame of mind will automatically be altered. This takes but a few moments and then release the wrist point and go about your day and notice how material nature suddenly reflects something different. It confirms your new state of mind, an extremely simple practice but one that can have quite an impact upon yourself.

MARK: That can be utilized as an anchor as well can it not?

KRIS: Indeed. The more you do it with this particular joint, the better you access all of these issues.

MARK: I was gonna say, if we do this often, the more often we do it, the quicker it happens. (Chuckling)

KRIS: Do notice we did not use those words.

MARK: No… once again that number is 416-204-9723 we have 10, 15 minutes left.

(Pause)

MARK: In the interim… (Chuckling)

KRIS: Please continue.

MARK: Is there any other meditations, anchors, little practices you can give us?

KRIS: You can make it a point whenever in the daytime or any time of day that you are attracted to anything similar to what we have described, perhaps you notice a butterfly gently alighting on a flower to taste its nectar or perhaps you notice puffy clouds simply hovering in the sky or the reflection of the sunlight at sunset on a building, or on a mountain or water, any such experiences can also be anchored into this spot so that when you access it, you have this stored anchor which would bring all of these things to the forefront of your memory, your personal databank of meaningful experiences.

JOHN: Hmm. Very nice.

MARK: Another practice that comes to mind is the practice of perspectives. And when I find that when we’re really upset or frustrated or not feeling meaningful, it’s usually, there’s something right in our face, it could be our computer screen or documents or paper or something and it’s very good to change your perspective, change what you’re physically looking at. And the further away the object that you’re looking at tends to be a calming factor. So if you can look up into the starry sky or a distant mountain range or a tree way down the street, it will definitely be that calming, relaxing, and change your mood.

KRIS: Indeed. Any such practice that returns you to your sense of self, returns your sense of self to the very root of your being is helpful and beneficial. The point is to do it.

JOHN: I’ve got one that just occurred to me too, Kris. I’ve been using this one for months now actually. And that is, on a digital clock, this is no good on an analog clock, but on a digital clock, I have become sensitized to when all the numbers are the same. So in other words at 11:11 in the morning, or 4:44 in the afternoon, or whenever they may be, for me, this is a signal that it’s my inner self tapping me on the shoulder saying ‘Hi!”

MARK: That’s particularly good when we’re constantly watching the clock…

JOHN: Exactly!

MARK: It triggers us to move away, to laugh at it and…

JOHN: Yeah, it’s a way of using the clock itself as a trigger to go into psychological time as opposed to clock time?

KRIS: Indeed.

JOHN: And the thing that I’ve noticed is that the more I study that and the more I allow that to trigger my awareness, the more subtle the digital message can be. For instance the other day, I noticed that it was 12:34.

(Chuckling)

MARK: One, two, three, four.

JOHN: Which was one, two, three, four, and so I’m starting to see more and more subtle versions of that on the digital clock and you know, my thinking is that eventually, no matter what the time is on a digital clock, I’ll begin to see that it’s a numeric message.

(Phone rings and laughter)

MARK: We have a caller!

KRIS: Indeed, it is time!

(Pause)

MARK: Hello. Hello.

CALLER: Hi. I have a question regarding zen version of now or what zen talks about ‘the now’ and you know I’ve been to school and I’ve been to work all that and they talk about you know, dealing with problems here and now. Not the past, not the future, let’s deal with the moment here you know, and the immediacy of everything. And I find it’s so hard to concentrate on what they’re talking about, I felt more pressure. I find when I leave them, unable to get into the greater now in terms of letting go of everything, I’m able to pick up more and it doesn’t… people don’t seem to be talking about that as much as the previous of the immediate now and I’m just wondering if you can talk about that a bit… you know it’s helpful for me. Thank you.

KRIS: There are two perspectives at play here. Often depending upon the environment, the person may be conveying the idea…

(Loud dial tone heard)

KRIS: May be conveying the idea that you need to focus upon as you said the immediacy of the situation, the demands that are put upon you now. Do not spend your time in the past or in future reverie, pay attention to what is happening in order for you to supply the demands upon you. This is simply another variation of what we addressed earlier, but there is another kind of time, another kind of now. That now, being in the now means to be in the spacious moment.

Even the very act of immediately drawing your attention to your breathing, the rush of air into your lungs as you expand them slowly, the rush of air out of your lungs as you compress them, allowing for that peaceful sensation to wash over you and wash away the stresses of any other moment but the experience of your breath can definitely bring you into that spacious moment that is analogous to inner or psychological time. Even just a few breaths in this way can drastically alter perception, lower heart rate, lower blood pressure and bring an overall sense of peace.

That kind of now is insufficiently understood or cultivated, often seen as a waste of time since there are so many pressing things for you to do but that particular introspection can indeed provide you with the kind of respite that can then allow you to be more focused and more productive in a healthy way. It is easier and healthier in the long run to do one thing ten times than to do ten things once and not do any of them good at all. Does that make sense?

MARK: Yes.

JOHN: Yes.

KRIS: So we trust that this answers your question in a simple manner.

MARK: I’d like to thank the caller as well.

KRIS: Indeed! It would also be most interesting if future callers simply stated at least where they are calling from or a name, even a first name, even if it is fictitious!

(Laughter)

KRIS: Now what is the time?

MARK: It’s time to go. It’s 8:30.

KRIS: Indeed then, we thank you for having taken the time from your day to listen to our humble voice. A voice that seeks to reflect back to you those energies and that well-being and fulfillment that you seek from life and may your days and your nights be filled with as many wonders as you allow and thank you for your consideration.

JOHN: Thank you Kris.

MARK: Thank you Kris. John, do you think you could do a diagram for us of that spot on the wrist?

JOHN: No problem! I know it’s a little hard to explain that on the radio, just for those who are following along, it’s the… on the left wrist, it’s on the right hand side, the bone right at the bottom of your palm on the right side of your left wrist facing you is the point he was talking about but I will indeed do a diagram and post it on the website.

MARK: And that’s it for our show, thanks for listening and see you in two weeks!

(Session ends)

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