Ain’t That the Truth!

November 26, 2006

Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Ellen Gilbert (Kwaa’Ji)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on November 26, 2006

Roll Call: Serge (Joseph), Mark (Philip) and John (Sohars)

[NOTE FROM JOHN: Before the session, Mark, Serge and I were talking about how people come and go in your life and it didn’t really matter whether we agreed with them or liked their energy, they came and went. I mentioned Elias’ ‘it matters not’ pointing out my understanding of this bit of 'dogma'... because we create our entire universe in each moment, 'it matters not' what we have created in any particular moment, because we can choose something else in the next.

Mark replied that many people think that “it matters not” means that it doesn’t matter, but that that isn’t the case at all.

John then replied with: “So true, so very true.”]

(8:22 PM)

KRIS: Indeed, we trust that you are comfortable and we thank you for your consideration. And no truer words were uttered than, “Too true, very true,” as you have just mentioned. For indeed, what is true and what is truth?

JOHN: Good questions. Rhetorical, we’re assuming? (Laughs)

KRIS: Indeed, it could very well be nothing more than a critique!

(Laughter)

But nonetheless, it certainly bears investigation and exploration, for what IS truth? The dictionary has its own definition. (To Mark) Would you be so kind?

JOHN: (Chuckling) Truth. I betcha it says, “Things that are not false”!

MARK: (Riffling through the dictionary’s pages) Ain’t that the truth!? [Lily Tomlin joke.] …Truth, here we go.

KRIS: Perhaps a definition both of “truth” and “true.”

MARK: (Reading) “Truth: Sincerity in action; Character in utterance; the state of being the case; fact. The body of real things, events, and facts; actuality; A transcendent, fundamental, or spiritual reality; a judgment, proposition, or idea that is true or accepted as true. The body of true statements and propositions.”

Now let’s find “True.”…….”Faithful, akin to ‘just’, truthful; Being in accordance with the actual state of affairs; comfortable to essential reality; Ideal, essential; being that which is the case, rather than that which is manifest or assumed. The dimension of the problem; Consistent, properly so-called love, faith; Possessing the basic characters of and belonging to the same natural group as ‘A whale is a ____, but not a typical mammal’; Legitimate, rightful; That which is fitted or formed or functions accurately; Conformable to a standard pattern.”

JOHN: So many different meanings for such a simple idea.

KRIS: As you have already determined, the two words, “truth” and “true,” are much more complex than the way it is utilized by the ordinary individual. That is why, for instance, your legal systems are so complex because they deal with various levels of both. As far as it pertains to individual discoveries, consciousness, awareness, truth and so on, individuals would prefer something much more simple, something very much in line with the standard black and white approaches.

But then again, confining spirituality, consciousness, awareness and so on to those very simplistic interpretations can cause far more problems than what the process is trying or attempting to solve. Does that make sense?

(Yes)

KRIS: But again, does the dictionary’s definition of truth and true actually resolve any kind of inquiries concerning those two matters?

(No)

Indeed it does not.

MARK: Nowhere does it use the word “absolute.”

KRIS: And, in fact, as can be inferred from the dictionary’s definitions, true and truth really cannot be utilized to determine any absolutes, period. Does that also make sense?

(Yes)

Thus it would also make sense that utilizing either of these two words to establish an absolutism in any area really does a disservice both to the language as well as individuals and parties involved.

JOHN: And the situation being described.

KRIS: That is correct. We would go so far as to say that trying to determine truth and what is true can actually become a TRULY (John and Mark laugh) distorted situation. It can occasion distortions of even further degrees, because in order to establish that which is true or truthful in some consensus of the words, one has to censor everything the individual does not understand or is not willing to understand or simply cares not to understand, and only accept that which concurs with his or her limited definition of those two words, thereby creating further distortions.

So the search for truth and that which is true, which seems to drive and be apparent highest motivational factor for spiritual discoveries and understandings can even prevent the individual from attaining his or her goals. Does that make sense?

JOHN: Yes. Now, may I ask a question?

KRIS: Indeed. Please feel free. This is not a lecture. It is rhetorical.

JOHN: Now, here is what I’m thinking as you’re describing this. The idea that I am simply a focal personality and this life is all I get, and when I die I go back to being, ah…you know…worms and things….Compared to the idea that I’m a focus of Essence and I’m eternal, we can say, I think — even though neither one of them is absolutely true or false — can we begin to distinguish that one of them is more applicable, more helpful, more beneficial, more useful and that the other one isn’t?

KRIS: It may, in and of itself, lead to other distortions down the line. To imply that being a mere focus personality is somehow or other lesser, that in some manner you have gotten the short straw, is not necessarily truthful or true. Would you agree?

JOHN: Well, yes, ultimately in the sense that the focus personality contains within it everything, the whole. So you’re going to work your way through that ultimately, in the developmental process. But isn’t it truer to say….or…is there any value in those kinds of distinctions?

KRIS: Not necessarily.

JOHN: Hmmm.

MARK: In a way, I guess, we have limiting beliefs. And some are less limiting than others, but they’re still limiting.

KRIS: From our perspective, your playing with the topic of true and truthful is actually intermingled very deeply, intertwined with, the belief system of “Duplicity”. For countless ages, philosophers, religions, wise men and women, even up to this modern day have been attempting to understand and explore the concept of truth and that which may be true and in doing so, will align themselves with their own private interpretations.

And yet, that which is true and truthful is as fluid as the stream of thoughts that crosses your mind on a daily basis. Even to say that “The individual: that is a truth. The individual is a thing that is true,” might best be viewed as little more than a concept and not an absolute, because again, what IS the individual? We have spent five evenings of “Who Are You?”, thus, what is the individual?

MARK: An expression.

JOHN: A process. An action. A becoming.

(Both laugh)

JOHN: We could go on!

KRIS: It is a very good thing you are not playing word association! Nor charades. But what is an individual? These are merely descriptives and attributes. What is an individual?

JOHN: I think an individual is a living, changing, point of view.

KRIS: (Pause) You are becoming more abstract, and that is fine.

MARK: (Laughing)

KRIS: Keep on going.

JOHN: I think an individual is….a particular personality expression of ‘All That Is’.

MARK: And yet it’s a civilization of selves within.

JOHN: Yeah, an individual….

MARK: It’s a question that really can’t be answered.

KRIS: That is partially correct. All in all, you may say, “Well, I am an individual, he is an individual, she is an individual.” But you are only attributing that individuality to the attributes displayed by that energy, by that image.

JOHN: You know it seems to me Kris that the development of what you’re presenting here around the words true, truth, and individual, could be applied to every word in the language.

KRIS: Very nearly so! We are, at this point in time, only having fun with those three words for now. From our own perspective, we could simply describe the individual as a dynamic force.

JOHN: Okay….

KRIS: A dynamic force, in itself, has a very broad definition. And that which is true and truthful to that dynamic force or the individual, is only relevant to the different layers or the dynamic force itself. For instance, certain things were true for either of you when you were very young, growing up. Eventually, some of these truths were abandoned for other truths.

As you grew older, the processes kept changing. The truths that you held to at a certain time had, by and large, all been removed from your perceptions to a certain degree. That which may have held as a truth to you, even last year, would have been transformed by this time because your own ideas, your own conceptual fields, have evolved. They have been transformed. You have created transformations of a very dynamic nature and because of those transformations you are heading in a direction very different from where you were headed last year.

But at the same time, a part of last year’s direction is following through towards this year’s direction. So there are interconnections and some of these truths that you abandoned years and decades ago, would have been acquired truths which you would have acquired from your parents, your environment, your teachers, and so on and so forth. But underneath those layers of acquired truths are more resilient truths. They are based within your own belief systems, your personal belief systems that acquire or enable you to acquire, these secondary or acquired truths that you pick up from your parents and otherwise. Does that make some sense?

JOHN: Yes. It raises a kind of an interesting question for me, if may interject?

KRIS: Indeed.

JOHN: And that is, I like the distinction you’re making here between truth and beliefs. I think that’s very helpful, very enriching of our understanding. Here’s the question: In the journey we’re undergoing on the planet, in the ‘Shift of Consciousness’, widening our awareness, all of that…will we get to the point where we can consciously change a belief? Because that would be handy.

KRIS: You already have the capacity, and you have used that capacity to change acquired truths. Otherwise, you would likely still be in diapers. So that potential is already being utilized by every being on your planet. However, there is that blueprint within the psyche that contains belief systems upon which your explorations and experiences within the physical dimension are based upon. It is the foundation. It is foundational. These are foundational truths.

JOHN: Things that we agree to as part of the game here.

KRIS: Indeed, consensus reality, consensus truths. Now, with some effort, some of those paradigms, because even those foundational truths still contain paradigms, CAN be altered, but it takes longer.

JOHN: Well, also what I’m beginning to understand is that the blueprint belief systems are so varied and so….vast, that using the imagination, you can basically get to just about anywhere you want to go using those in a creative way.

KRIS: That is why there is so much variety to spice up your lives and these foundational blueprints are resilient enough to allow the formation of literal untold amounts of acquired truths so that everyone in physical reality has the opportunity to experience the way they transform energy into reality.

JOHN: In whatever configuration they want to play with.

KRIS: Indeed. That is why you can then have such events that to some appear unfathomable, such as an Essence expressing a focus personality that only appears within physical reality long enough to experience an abortion. Another may only live for six months and choose SIDS death. (Sudden Infant Death Syndrome). Others may only experience for a few years and then utilize certain conditions, such as perhaps childhood leukemia or cancer and be done with their adventure.

JOHN: Right.

KRIS: And to the other end of the spectrum, you may have individuals live to a ripe old age in very healthy and rich environments and everything in between, because your foundational truths or belief systems are strong enough and flexible enough to accommodate an untold and unlimited variety of acquired truths that would strive the individual at the usual unconscious level, even though the individual may have long forgotten the programming at that level, that acquired truth.

JOHN: Well that is very interesting, Kris. That raises a question for me. I actually told Serge and Mark about this experience I had: last week, I think it was on the radio show, you mentioned that we habitually and consistently underestimate our creative potential, and that our creative potential was in fact unlimited.

Now, I’m thinking about that and saying, okay, given that, and given the situation that we have here, it seems to me that if I set up an intention, whatever that intention might be — whatever! — and I trust and allow the unlimited qualities of my creative potential to be expressed, then I can find a pathway through the labyrinth of the blueprint truths and the acquired truths that can get me there.

KRIS: That potential does exist. It is innate to your human nature.

JOHN: (Chuckling) Oh, I like that!

KRIS: It is definitely possible. However, a possibility is NOT a reality in that sense of the word. Thus, we must return to the original inquiry: What is truth? What is true? At the individual’s level, indeed there are all sorts of manifestations concerning those two definitions in a complex area that actually drives your creative desires and urges for physical manifestation.

But none of these are necessarily true or truths, except that which you project in the moment. So at one level, physical reality of course is true, and is filled with truths, but they are themselves temporary projections of that which is truer still, meaning the dynamic force of the individual. That is true to the extent that the individual experiences his or her depth, the AUTHENTIC self.

In those instances, it seems that the individual aligns perfectly with his or her intent and the whole world transforms itself in the very direction of that or those intents. And thus it emphasizes the idea that the dynamic force, the individual, is on the right track. And indeed, he or she is. But so few of those instances occur in one individual’s life and so few individuals are actually taught these simple matters that many individuals find even changing their present situation to be a struggle because they are caught up in the random definitions of truth and what is true.

JOHN: Random?

KRIS: Indeed, because these temporal or temporary truths, and that which is temporarily true, does change, depending on where you are concentrating your attention. This may seem extremely abstract, but the idea is to look beyond one’s immediate understandings and definitions, which are often extremely rigid, psychologically speaking. So rigid in fact, that often that which they do need to transform their views simply cannot be accessed because it does not fit their definition of what they consider to be truth or true.

JOHN: Yes which is why it is helpful to have a little flexibility around that.

KRIS: Indeed and especially when the individual takes himself or herself overly seriously on the matter. Then, that can indicate a stronger level of inflexibility. The more one is willing to be jovial, and even to laugh at their own attitudes, then the individual may be even more than ready to make the discoveries they so desire.

JOHN: Yes, well, I don’t know about you, Mark, but in the last six months or so I have developed the ability to see the difference that you’re describing there between those two states of mind. I can see that and feel that now, and I can feel that…of course the level I’m at is at another level…but I can feel when I’m, because of rigidity, following a track and it’s wonderful to just relax and let go and say, “Oh, who cares? Let’s just relax and let go and see what’s happening over here,” and flow with it a little bit.

KRIS: Indeed.

JOHN: But this brings us back to a very interesting question that I asked you a long time ago, and your answer was very good at the time, and I’m wondering if we might be ready for another level? (Chuckling) I asked you a question that went roughly something like this: Is our main job to try and steer our reality in the directions we want to go, or is our main job to relax and accept and allow the direction that we’re traveling in?

KRIS: What do you concur?

JOHN: Well, your answer last time, which was of course a wonderful answer, was that it was not either/or, it’s both. I am beginning to feel that, as a remedial measure, in order to get us over this hump, it might be more helpful to focus on the accept and allow half of the equation until we get our legs under us and we’re a little more comfortable about who we are and where we want to steer.

MARK: If I can comment too, on your comment: I’m discovering that the more rigid we are regarding truths, the more we’re leaning towards OPPOSING and the less rigid we are, we’re leaning towards ALLOWING and either way, our reality is created between those two tensions, so at times we’re drifting this way and at times we’re drifting that way, but we get what we experience based upon those opposing and allowing. It can be more fun to be allowing, but you still at certain points have oppositions.

KRIS: For instance, someone may claim that their mother hated them. That may appear as an acquired truth, but to the individual’s mind up to that point their whole foundational reality is based upon that apparent fact. But upon further questioning and examination, it can be determined that the question “Is this absolutely true?” may bring about a different answer and the individual may say, “Well, not entirely. There were definitely moments when I felt loved, and loved by my mother.”

Therefore the original statement: My mother hated me, was not necessarily truthful, nor true. And upon further questioning it could even be discovered that the individual, in wanting to protect himself or herself from inferred heartache or pain, may have wished to create the understanding that his or her mother hated them. Only because they wanted more attention than mother may have been able to give at that moment and perhaps another moment produced similar results and another moment may have produced similar results, perhaps spread over many years.

But the individual may have collapsed all of these into one huge statement: “My mother hated me,” and this may not be true. And the realization of this small fact can indeed have a profound impact upon the individual’s state of mind and perceptions. And it may even include the eventual realization that mother may never have hated them at all, but they hated the fact that they brought their mother to the breaking point on some occasions, and this is entirely theoretical, philosophical.

The same could be applied towards father, towards siblings, towards anyone else. We have said some short while back, that it is always about the individual, never about the other, whether the other is another, a thing, an agency, etc. It is always about the individual, and the individual holds to certain acquired truths for his or her purposes and his or her life then becomes governed by those situations.

This creates various states of opposition. Some of these states of opposing can indeed create even nasty side-effects and truly limit the scope of that individual’s ability to access his or her choices. Thus, by coming to terms with what may be true or truthful or not can be seen as a key to open the door and release that which has been imprisoned. The very dynamics of that individual have been restrained. Does that make some sense?

JOHN: Perfect sense.

KRIS: Do you also follow?

MARK: Yes, I do.

KRIS: Thus, to get back to your question, it could be said that you are here by choice. What you do henceforth from the moment of your manifestation in physical reality as an individual is also a series of choices based upon what you see as truths and what is true to you. Ultimately, by allowing that which is true to you and truthful to you, to flow and not to dam it up, brings both release of creativity and choice.

JOHN: So we’re falling on the side of allowing, rather than falling on the side of trying to steer.

KRIS: (Softly) Indeed.

JOHN: Okay.

KRIS: At the same time that you make for allowing, you truly steer.

JOHN: Ah, because when you’re allowing, you are allowing yourself and that’s what you want to steer anyway.

KRIS: Correct. You do not want to steer a ship that has no rudder.

JOHN: Right or an ocean.

KRIS: Indeed.

JOHN: (Chuckling) Thank you, Kris, that’s a good answer! It kind of wandered around the pathway there and then it came right back! I appreciate that. Yeah, that’s also a very reinforcing of my temporary truths right now which is that this whole allowing thing is so much more powerful for getting what I want than trying to push.

KRIS: Indeed, because usually, when the individual pushes, he pushes against the door that says “pull open.”

JOHN: Right!

KRIS: You have to be very careful as to what is going to push the door from the other side when you do that. So if you allow, then the door can open either way.

JOHN: So, from the perspective of Essence, do you just allow yourself? Is there any…. like…. (Chuckling) I keep trying to imagine what just allowing myself would be!

MARK: Allowing is accepting….because if you’re allowing you’re accepting of your own self and the actions that you are taking at that time. You can’t allow otherwise.

JOHN: But here’s the interesting thing, Mark: In order for me to oppose, I have to allow. In other words any opposition in my life, I am ultimately allowing that opposition.

KRIS: Thus you have discovered that the individual ALWAYS is in the state of allowing.

JOHN: Even when they are opposing, because they are allowing the — (Cracking up)

KRIS: And that is where their denial comes in. “If I deny, I am allowing this to happen.”

JOHN: Right.

KRIS: “If I am not allowing it to happen, then I will kick and scream all the way.”

JOHN: Yeah, that’s absolutely true, the allowance is the blueprint. Hmm.

KRIS: Thus, from our own perspective, we could say that even your understanding of allowing has to be within the context of your experiences. Over and above that we are neither concerned with allowing, nor opposing, we are not concerned with truths and what is true, we simply ARE.

JOHN: That’s a big one.

KRIS: Indeed. When an Essence expresses itself as focus, it enters the domain of allowing. It is a playing field.

JOHN: Oh, I see, yeah.

KRIS: It enters the playing field, but it is not dominated by nor affected by that playing field.

JOHN: It just is.

KRIS: And in being, it influences the playing field. That is a big difference.

JOHN: Yeah…oh, that’s interesting…..Can we pursue that a little bit?

KRIS: Indeed. Consider the biologist or scientist in his laboratory, playing with his microscope and his little slides and little petri dishes of experimentations. The very fact that the scientist has an intent influences the outcome of his experimentations. It cannot be otherwise, but most scientists are unaware of this factor. Do you understand?

JOHN: Yes, I do, I do. That actually raises a question for me that is slightly left field, if I may?

KRIS: Indeed.

JOHN: Okay, I was thinking about EFT the other day. I was doing it and during a set-up phrase, I was trying to engage my whole self as much as I could, consciously with my consciousness….not just saying the words, but to actually somehow engage my whole self in that moment. And also when I did the reminder phrases of saying, “Okay, I’ve got a pain in my foot, pain in my foot….” I actually visualized and focused my consciousness on the pain in the foot during each moment and I’m thinking like….

Remember how the Vimanas, they are a physical thing that works on the basis of a mixture of consciousness and physical manifestation, working together. I’m thinking there is likely an aspect of EFT that would work ten times better than it works now if we were to apply the consciousness aspect of it as well as the physical patterns.

KRIS: And how will you define that?

JOHN: Well, it’s basically where my attention is, what I’m visualizing. When I’m tapping, my attention is and I’m visualizing the exact issue. And when I’m thinking about totally accepting my whole self, I do the best I can to actually put my attention on and visualize my whole self.

KRIS: Continue.

JOHN: For me this is more satisfying. I’m thinking that there’s got to be a way to refine that, though. I have a feeling that if you’re teaching EFT to someone and they’ve got a pain in their foot, that there is likely a way for them to work inwardly, consciously inwardly as well as outward tapping that will greatly increase the effectiveness of the program.

KRIS: And what have you surmised on that issue?

JOHN: I think it’s true and I’m trying to discover it! (Laughing) And I’m trying to get you to confirm it!

MARK: (Laughing) There is obviously a truth to it!

KRIS: The intent will definitely engage an outcome. It cannot be otherwise. As you have already discovered, being specific is a great asset in EFT. And the reason being, that the more you can concentrate and bring that specific issue to the forefront of your mind, the more you are engaging the rest of your Being to also add to the momentum.

In other words, what you may loosely refer to as your unconscious self, is suddenly alerted, that it needs to engage change, transformation, and do what is necessary to bring about the results of that intent, the manifestations of the intent. Thus, when you tap, set-up phrase and tap, with precision and specifics, you automatically kick-start the manifestation and its outcome will be made evident, if not in five minutes, perhaps in thirty days, with persistence and patience. Perhaps, depending on the severity of the situation, but definitely you can bring more and more aspects simply by intent. You can play and modify your set-up phrase.

JOHN: Actually that raises an interesting point: I’ve noticed that YOU have played with the set-up phrase in the last couple of sessions, and I tried it and it worked, and that is, in the set-up phrase when you say: “Even though I have a sore foot, I totally and completely accept my FOOT and myself.” (Thoughtfully) “Even though I don’t understand my power, I totally and completely accept that I don’t understand MY POWER and myself.” In other words, the totally accepting part includes whatever the symptom is as well as the self.

KRIS: Indeed.

JOHN: I think that’s great, yeah. That takes EFT farther than, for instance, I think Gary is willing to go, and the reason is, which I think…to me…became clear, and that is I was applying it to little floaters that I have in my eye, and I said, “Even though I have these floaters in my eye, I totally and completely accept the floaters in my eye and myself.” And I found it hard to say that and mean it! Hard to say that I totally and completely accept the floaters because after all, we’re trying to get rid of them! (Laughing)

KRIS: And that is where, USUALLY, the individual encounters his opposing, literally running into the brick wall of opposing. That resistance. What are you resisting?

JOHN: Yeah, so saying that I accept the symptom, whatever it may be…which is 180 degrees from where we went into the session, which was “how do I get rid of this,” but anyway, as part of getting rid of it…I think the paradox may be that it’s only when we completely accept it and say, “You know what? It doesn’t really matter,” then, of course, the energy is gone and it flies away.

KRIS: Indeed and this is where many healers, even those that call themselves light workers, light healers, spiritual healers and so on, could benefit. By understanding that the more you focus attention on the symptoms, the more you are manifesting symptoms, because you are opposing the situation. You are pushing.

You are trying to eliminate, and in order to eliminate and get rid of; you have to give it an inordinate amount of concentration, because it does not disappear. However, by making a concerted effort to understand your accepting, your allowing, you automatically begin on the path to dissolve that energy charge.

JOHN: Yeah, that’s been the great breakthrough for me, thank you. You used it last week and also in the talk about the movie “The Secret,” you used it also. Very nice. See? I’m paying attention.

MARK: It’s important to note that the floaters in your eyes are your creation, as a signal, a sign of communication. So say, “I accept myself completely,” you need to accept everything you create.

JOHN: Well that’s implied, but to actually say it? Ooohhh, it’s different!

KRIS: Indeed, and as soon as you encounter that resistance, you know you have hit pay dirt. THAT is where you need to concentrate.

JOHN: Yeah, it really ends up being quite simple, doesn’t it?

KRIS: It is very little different than when we spoke to you about not only accepting the individual who may have caused you pain in the past, but also accepting that part of you that you feel put you in the situation to be pained by the other individual.

JOHN: Your vulnerability, or what have you.

KRIS: Indeed. Accepting the other only carries you so far. Accepting yourself WITH the other, the other as a reflection of that part of you that you have discounted, brings about a faster and more powerful resolution. Does that make sense?

JOHN: Absolutely. Now I hijacked you from …

KRIS: Indeed not.

JOHN: No?

MARK: (Laughing)

KRIS: We suggest a small break.

MARK: 9:15.

(Break starts at 9:15 PM.)

JOHN: Well, that was very interesting, wasn’t it? I think we got to some very interesting places there.

MARK: Oh, big time.

JOHN: Yeah, I knew he was just blowing smoke when he said…do you remember I asked that question in my first or second session, where I said “Is our job to steer or to allow?” and he said, well it’s neither this nor that, but let’s think about it another way….which was fascinating, but it turns out that the answer is the ALLOW. (Chuckling) I feel very good about that because in my heart I knew that was the answer. That’s where we’ve been going with that.

(Kris returns at 9:17 PM)

MARK: That was a short break!

KRIS: A short break? That may be true, and it may not be!

(Laughter)

Even though you may have felt this in your heart, you needed a physical demonstration. You needed to live the experience so that you could hold onto that realization.

JOHN: This raises an interesting question that people on Newworldview have been chatting about recently, Kris. We feel — that is, I feel and people have agreed — that in the last two or three months, let’s say since this summer, there’s been some qualitative change in the fun we’ve been having. Meaning I in particular, definitely, and other people are seconding this idea, is that this stuff is starting to actually change things and work, and make a difference in ways that it just hadn’t before.

KRIS: And what do you attribute that to?

JOHN: I attribute that in part to the adventures in practices.

KRIS: And what do you attribute THAT to?

JOHN: Us being ready in calling forth and offering ourselves a much, much deeper experience.

MARK: Key word: Experience.

JOHN: … of ourselves as opposed to ideas and concepts.

KRIS: In so many words, you have all decided that you will get out of your heads, and into your experience. And that is in part what we have been humbly attempting to deliver in these sessions.

JOHN: Well, you pulled it off!

MARK: (Chuckling)

KRIS: Only because you would allow.

MARK: (Laughing) Ain’t that the truth! [Lilly Tomlin as Edith Ann joke.]

JOHN: Well, I know, but still, hat’s off to you!

KRIS: Indeed.

JOHN: Nice work.

KRIS: And that is why everything matters… Because YOU matter. If you did not matter, then nothing would matter. It is not the same as “it matters not.”

JOHN: No, I understand that. No, I do matter, yes.

KRIS: It is why, in many respects, one individual will admire the world, the sunrise, the sunset and all of the creatures manifest within that reality, and the person standing next to that individual may feel that the sunrise and the sunset are nothing but a bother, that human beings perhaps even should not be, and thinks that there is wickedness in the heart of humankind. Because THAT individual is so afraid to allow his or her loving of the world that they would rather see the world soured so that they do not have to allow loving.

JOHN: Cutting off their nose to spite their face!

KRIS: Indeed. That would mean that there are many noseless people!

JOHN: (Laughing)

KRIS: …That have no business sticking THEIR noses where it doesn’t belong. All in all, you have two kinds of perceptions in that example, and even the one that may feel spiteful has such an abandon of love towards the world and the creation of the world that they would rather hide from it.

And that is in part the major problem with various world conflicts and wars and so on and so forth. People are afraid to love that which is. Therefore they would rather pretend that it is worth so little that it can be shot at and bombed. That is a reflection of their feelings about themselves.

JOHN: And to compliment and to pat our reality on the back here again, the blueprints we’ve set up allow that experience without judgment.

KRIS: Correct, and that is a reflection of acquired beliefs.

JOHN: Ah.

KRIS: And you have an entire spectrum of experiences from one end to the other in this field. Allowing and opposing. So even with the deepest love for humankind, it is possible to despise that same loving humankind.

JOHN: Yeah, with the proper allowance.

KRIS: Indeed. It is a conundrum, but nonetheless, one that is still experienced.

JOHN: Well, I very much like your analysis of the fact that in order to oppose anything, we’ve got to allow it first, so allowing has to be primary. See that escaped me until you drew our attention to it, but that’s a zinger.

KRIS: It is no different in some respects than the individual who denies anything that in order to deny it he or she has to acknowledge it first! It is impossible to deny something you do not acknowledge.

JOHN: And you can’t oppose something that you’re not allowing. Cause it’s not there, otherwise! (Laughing)

MARK: Just as you can’t hate something that you don’t love.

JOHN: Right!

KRIS: So it simply means that your existence is a state of allowing, period.

JOHN: Right…very interesting….So just getting back to that idea briefly, I’ve been taught of course my whole life to make your plans and have your goals and have your dreams, and make your…what do they say?…plan your work and work your plan…so what I’m beginning to understand, and this was all innate to being a passionate, successful person, a realized, fulfilled person…now I’m beginning to understand that if I allow, if I put the focus on the allowing rather than the opposing and the pushing, that I will discover, through the allowing, what my REAL passion and intention and purpose is, because it will become my life!

KRIS: Indeed. You will not need to push. It will pull you.

JOHN: (Chuckling) Right.

KRIS: And that state of allowing is an extremely refined perception and concentration. It needs to be, because you can only allow that which you recognize.

JOHN: And notice, yeah.

KRIS: Thus, when you allow yourself to become successful then that state of being successful pulls you towards it. It already exists as a potential. It simply needs your recognition to be actualized.

JOHN: Well, that raises something….I kind of almost guess what your comment is going to be, but….there’s a possibility of my having…there’s a potential…of my developing a radio show around reality creation, a reality creation coach type of idea. Do you have any comment about that?

KRIS: How do you see yourself in such a situation?

JOHN: Well, I put myself in my imagination, into that situation and I like it. It sounds like fun. I like the idea of being stimulated by other people’s questions as opposed to having to….remember we talked awhile ago about me writing and I find that…it’s fun to write, really enjoyable, but I…I don’t know, I feel like I’m leading, or trying to create an issue there somehow, whereas if people phone me up and ask me questions about how their reality creation is going, and I answer and respond, that sounds really fulfilling.

KRIS: And at the same time, you are still leading.

JOHN: Okay, can you expand that a little bit?

KRIS: You are leading their perception, leading them to recognize their own potential.

JOHN: With the answers.

KRIS: Indeed. Thus, in your writing for example, you can apply a similar principle. Your character has questions about life and reality and the intended reader of your story will benefit from your answers just as the listener who is asking a question on the radio show may indeed be led to his or her own potential by listening instead of reading.

JOHN: Good point! Bang on.

KRIS: And the writing of your stories in the recent past have also led to the formulation of those very ideas. It has given you a certain foundation.

JOHN: Oh yes, absolutely! Oh, fabulous, wonderful….yeah, we’re not down on writing, really, at all….

MARK: You’re just allowing a new form of media.

JOHN: Yeah…yeah. And I knew, when I asked you that question that your reply would be “How do YOU feel” or “What are YOU feeling” or “What did YOU think?” (Laughing) I know you well enough by now to know that.

KRIS: And maybe there will be in the near future, a character in your story that becomes a radio show host.

JOHN: Ahhh! That’s fun!

KRIS: A radio host in a story gets a call from Mr. Danger.

JOHN: Oh, yes! A call from Johnny Danger! Yes….Oh that’s fun! …Yeah (Chuckling)…Pardon me while I make a few crib notes here!

KRIS: Both realizing at this time that they are similar expressions of the same Essence.

JOHN: Ooh! Say, you’re good at this!

MARK: (Laughing)

JOHN: (Jotting down notes) Oh, yeah…Oh that’s cute!

KRIS: And how would Sohars handle this addition?

JOHN: Uh-huh. (John can be heard scribbling away) Oh, actually, wouldn’t it be fun if Sid’s Cafe and Johnny Danger and the radio host’s stories eventually became one story? Different aspects of one story? Wow, well this is such a treat to get, you know?

MARK: (Chuckling)

JOHN: Actually Johnny Danger is an Entity that has thrown off a focal personality….Now I know that that’s probably against the rules, but it would be really interesting because Johnny Danger is the Entity of Sohars, who is the Essence of the radio host….

(Mark and John both crack up together)

Well, that could get really screwed up!

MARK: You have fun with it.

JOHN: Oh, absolutely. Well, thank you, Kris that was great!

KRIS: (To Mark) Now do you have any comments or questions?

MARK: No, I’m applying this to my own stories, both fiction and non-fiction. I’ve recently started the Children of Rokar.

JOHN: Which is great!

MARK: And that might be, especially since I created two different individuals on two different worlds, this might be a nice spin-off…

JOHN: And make them two focuses of the same Essence!

MARK: Yeah, experiencing two different realities. Obviously one planet survives and one planet is destroyed, one is a farm boy or laborer and the other is a University rowdy….yeah, I’ve got some ideas going.

KRIS: You may even suggest to your inner Self, or you may even utilize EFT to enhance your perceptions and request your dream self to bring you imagery suggestions, whether you remember them upon waking or not, or if you do remember dreams, weave them into a story along those lines.

Any other comments or observations?

(No.)

MARK: Thank you, Kris.

JOHN: Thanks Kris, it’s been a very successful evening.

(Session ends at 9:40 PM)

Who Are You? – Part 5

November 19, 2006

Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Ellen Gilbert (Kwaa’Ji)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on November 19, 2006

Summary Roll Call: Serge, Mark, John, Myrna, Dorothy, Joshua K., Katherine, James, Nicole, Mavis, Odette, Ella, Tom, Ellen, Jen, Lisa, Paul H., Jo, and Paul T.

(7:49 PM)

KRIS: Now we trust that you are all very comfortable and we thank you for your consideration. And we consider it always an auspicious event when our friend Antolian (Paul Tews, who was visiting Paul and Jo Helfrich in California) graces us with his presence!

We would even add that Antolian needs to pay attention to the upcoming months as there are changes in your energy affiliations. You are experiencing a greater sense of security, of safety within your Being, more so at this time than in the past. And as a result, you are bound to recognize subtle and not-so-subtle changes in your own perspective and to see many of your own desires and dreams take shape in ways you have not anticipated, or perhaps had even abandoned.

So Antolian, we simply suggest that you pay more attention to yourself, to the flow of your energies than you may have had in some time, and as always, do note that the sum of your parts, physical or otherwise, is always much more than you ever fully understand or appreciate. As such, we also encourage EVERYONE to try and understand why we have discussed this particular subject matter for several sessions already, why we have addressed the subject of “Who Are You?” over these last several weeks.

Many religions, philosophies, even from very ancient times, have sought to address this very specific question. In the ancient Vedic system of philosophy, the individual is not truly considered a human being until he or she begins asking such questions, and questioning the very nature of their being and wondering who and what they are. Now though we would find some aspects of this perspective perhaps a little bit extreme, there is still a great deal of validity in the shifting of perspectives towards an awakening when the individual begins to question their very nature and thus the nature of reality.

And our attempt over these last several weeks has been to gently nudge you towards a deeper and greater reflection upon your own nature, but in a manner in which you have been able to engage the principles themselves and not simply take information for granted or read about it and assume that now you understand. Instead, our approach has been a gentle attempt to bring you to the threshold of the answers and by inference you make the connections. You understand through your own experience, more of whom and what you are, directly, and not second and third-hand.

And that approach can lead to profound realizations, because realizations themselves are processes towards awakening. And in many respects this is what your Shift is about: a process of awakening, of understanding your own nature, of questioning the information that has been given to you through your regular systems of education, of questioning the official line of consciousness and enticing you to peek over the fence towards the unofficial line of consciousness.

And by questioning the official line of consciousness in such a gentle and first-hand manner, your own experiences become the foundation upon which your new experience of Self is built. And this can dramatically alter the psychological lay of the land, as it were, alters your definition of reality and ultimately leads you to ask more and more questions. Because the moment you decide you now fully understand who and what you are because of something you may have heard or read, then you have effectively closed the doors to your awakening, because the awakening has to be experienced first-hand.

And when you close the doors, no new information, no new realizations can reach you because you have established a barrier, a barrier through which self-knowledge can no longer be made available. So we encourage you to keep exploring, to keep investigating. Leave no stone, physical or non-physical, unturned, simply because all of the information that you hear that may be given to you, all information that you read about is, though the best attempt, is still a translation and not necessarily the experience itself. And we understand it is very common for individuals to believe that the translation IS the experience, but it simply cannot be.

As such, the manner in which we have proceeded over these last several weeks was to entice you to experience and not simply dwell on second and third-hand material and furthermore to encourage you to discover on your own the translation, the material, is NOT the experience, simply because you are the only ones who CAN allow yourselves the experience and it is YOUR experience that awakens you to your own greater potential.

NO OTHER MEANS, however sweet and pretty or poetic, can possibly suffice or substitute for YOUR experience, and that is why we have often appeared to be insistent and even adamant that you pursue your own experiences and not necessarily rely on translations or even intellectualizations, but that you actively engage those transformational experiences and for more than one or two minutes, but in such a manner that it is consistent and in such a manner that it is revealing of your own potentials and abilities.

And to say, for instance, that you tried something for three to five minutes and it did not work for you, is not an excuse. It must go beyond the intellectualizations and into your allowance for change. And that is where the process of awakening takes root, when you allow for that CHANGE to take root and your lovely being to blossom, to extend itself beyond the limitations and boundaries within which you normally express yourselves.

Thus, in returning to the original question: WHO ARE YOU? must therefore set up cascading sequences of awakenings within you in such a gentle manner that your perception continues not only to widen, but to reach new heights, so that your perspective continues to grow and you therefore grow with your newfound perspectives.

As this kind of question, “who are you?” has been asked for thousands of years. It is always most surprising that a definitive, absolute answer still has yet to come forth, even though the world’s greatest philosophers, the world’s greatest philosophies, and religions of all kinds have been asking this question for thousands of years. And that is simply because the answers formulated at the conscious level through the auspices of various belief systems and languages are all in themselves only partial. And the words simply cannot provide an expansive enough definition because they are not the experience.

Even though over the years you have utilized such terminology as “Greater Self,” “Higher Self,” “Grander Self,” “Essence,” “Source Self,” “Oversoul,” “Over Self,” and dozens upon dozens of other descriptives, they are not the experience but merely attempts to define a field of energy and action far greater than the words themselves can possibly contain. Thus, when you are certain that you are the Higher Self, Essence, Source, do understand that these are, again, merely interpretations and all interpretations must necessarily contain various degrees of distortions.

And as your own experiences lead you to these greater discoveries and awakenings, you will eventually leave behind the words, the definitions, and understand that you are that much more than any word or words can even come close to describe. And asking the question again, “Who are you?” becomes something entirely different. You know you are not therefore merely your physical form, you are more than your physical senses, you are more than the sum of your physical parts, that indeed you are more than this one, or other, or any lifetimes, per se.

Again, “WHO ARE YOU?” Philosophies, religions, philosophers, even your scientists who are attempting — and the emphasis is on “attempting” — to understand the mechanics of, and the origins of physical reality and the universe, are in their own ways attempting to provide an answer to the question “Who are you?” And because they are attempting to answer such a question, whether it is “Who are you?” “What is reality?” “What is the universe?” strictly from the physical angle, they can only provide an answer in response to your physical selves.

You already perceive that you are more than that physical self. Therefore, what else are you? Will there be any word that can possibly, justifiably describe what you are and answer that question “who are you?” The more you widen your perspective in search for an answer or answers, the more you WILL discover, and that first-hand discovery truly is the key. It is the direct experience, and that direct experience is the process that transforms the universe from one state to another.

And as we briefly described on the internet radio two evenings ago, you are here, in physical reality in a physical experience as such, to understand the dynamics and even the mechanisms of transforming energy into the actions, the circumstances, the conditions and the events of your personal reality. And as a consequence, you answer your own questions, specifically, “Who are you?”

And you may even discover, along such a journey, that this simple three word question, “Who are you?” may indeed be the motivational factor for all of your lifetime’s experiences, for that is also what Source or Essence seeks to discover, but from its perspective. And that journey we put to you as causal to the manifestation of the universe as you understand it, causal to your very multitudinous multidimensional experiences with all varieties of time and space conundrums.

And that very continuum of time and space as you think you understand it may very well be the result of these kinds of questions, urging you through experience to discover first-hand what it is that you are. And asking that question, “Who are you?” when YOU ask, “Who am I?” and you follow the leads, the impulses, the impressions and the directions, you begin to reveal to yourselves a completely different art of thinking, a completely different kind of thinking that goes beyond wondering what kind of shoes or purses or cars you will buy, but instead widen your perspective so much so that you begin to question the very nature of being, of existence, of reality, of the universe.

That entails the development of a higher order of intelligence, a completely different framework of relativity to time and space, the engaging of a perspective that applies a different kind of science, a different utilization of that stuffing between your lovely ears. And the more you engage such a process, then indeed the answers reveal themselves through first-hand experiences. And those experiences will transform not only your views and understandings about life, but even yourselves, and only so much as you make allowances.

And those allowances, those permissions that you give yourselves to experience first-hand must lead you as the living answers to the simple three word question: “Who are you? Who am I” So we urge you to not take for granted, or assume that, because you have been given an answer, or have read something in a book somewhere that you now have solved the problem. And with that, we leave you for a small break so that you can ponder the question, “Who are you?” Enjoy your break.

(Break begins at 8:27 PM. It was quiet and uneventful and Kris returned at 8:41 PM)

KRIS: Now that you have had a lovely little break and have figured out all of the answers, we simply suggest that you put all of those answers aside and consider that the main dish is yet to be served. We would welcome everyone to participate in a nice adventure in practices. All you need do, regardless of where in your time and space that you are situated, that you are at least comfortably seated with your feet on the ground, your hands comfortably relaxed in your laps, and you are entirely free to close your eyes or leave them open, as suits you.

And whilst you are listening to the sound of our voice, you begin to pay attention to your breathing, one of the most vital functions of your body. Notice how your chest expands, taking in oxygen with every inhalation and how it contracts with every exhalation. And as you continue to pay attention to the sound of our voice and to your breathing, noticing the rhythmic fashion with which your chest expands and contracts with each breath. Focus a bit of your attention as best you can, on your heartbeat and how with each contraction the heart pumps blood throughout the body, throughout your body.

And the more you pay attention to the rhythm of your breathing and the rhythm of the heart, they become in sync with each other and a deep relaxation sets in to your body. And if you have not by now closed your eyes, feel free to do so. The very act of closing your eyes and noticing that they are closed enables you to relax even more.

And imagine now as your relaxation deepens, or pretend or see a light seemingly from above shine onto your head, onto the top of your head. And as this light shines onto the top of your head, it furthers the relaxation of that part of your body and any other part of the body or the whole body it will be upon.

And notice how the relaxation seems to pour from this light on top of your head, down the back of the head and the front, the forehead, the eyes, the cheeks, the lips, the ears, the chin, your relaxation deepens. Feel free to gently unhinge the jaw, without forcing it so it is simply relaxed, not closed, not open. And continue to allow the light to go down your neck, down to your shoulders, down the back and the chest, relaxing all of the large muscle groups.

[Kris continues his relaxation induction, instructing us to allow the light to flow down the body, naming each body part until he gets to the very tips of our toes.]

And as your relaxation deepens, allow yourselves to experience well-being, wellness, and gently we ask you to bring your right index finger towards the area of your third eye, very gently, naturally, and the moment there is contact with your finger and your forehead, allow your eyes to roll back, drop your hand into your lap and go into a very deep state of relaxation.

Let your hands return to your laps and enter into a very deep state of relaxation. As you continue to hear the sound of our voice, also keep attention focused upon the light that provided deep physical relaxation and allow yourselves to be drawn towards that light way above your heads. And as you seem to be drawn further and further into that light, know that your bodies are safe and secure where they are and follow that light way above your bodies, being drawn above the room your bodies are in, even above the house, further up, perhaps you even notice the rooftops, the streets, the trees as you are reaching higher and higher, being drawn up and up.

And as you are being drawn higher and up, notice how wider your perceptions of the house, the street, perhaps even the entire quarter, or even the city or the town, and you keep being drawn higher and up. And in a moment, even that action of being drawn higher and up will be replaced by an incredible sense of awareness.

And allow yourselves to float towards and into that incredible awareness, an awareness that stretches even beyond any ideas of a planet or solar system or galaxy or universe into a state of loving, nurturing awareness, a sense of wellness, a sense of simply being that may even defy any known knowledge or descriptions of awareness that you may have had at any other time. As if you are experiencing a sense of coming home, a vastness of being well beyond your own ideas.

And from that vastness of being you can direct your focus towards any experiences sometimes called other lives, other focuses, other experiences. You may even be temporarily cognizant of much more. Simply bask in that state of awareness and from your awareness perspective you are able to direct or focus your attention to the physical form you normally refer to as yourself, way down there sitting relaxed in physical reality, listening to the sound of our voice. And from your awareness perspective, you can send energy, blessings, grace, love, joy, to that Self. Fill that Self to the brim.

And very gently give thanks to that great and vast awareness and gently follow the sound of our voice back towards this universe, this galaxy, this solar system, this planet, back towards the building or the house your body is in and begin to flow back into your physical form, your image and know that the blessings and the love, the grace and the wellness you have filled your body with is yours to utilize any time, anywhere. It is your energy, it is your being.

And in a moment we will count from five to one and at one you will awaken eyes wide awake, fully aware. Take a deep breath to give your body a little bit of energy…five, four…allow all sensations to return to your body…three, wiggle your toes and fingers….two…and one. Open your eyes, wide awake, fully aware and know that at any time you can enter this beautiful state when you need to give yourselves a loving embrace out of pure awareness. And now we leave you to a small break.

MARK: 9:04.

[Break, and Kris returns at 9:13]

KRIS: Indeed, now we would gladly listen to some of your questions and comments. What we specifically do not need, however, is confirmation of your experiences. We do not specifically need long descriptions of what you experienced, nor that we confirm if what you experienced was valid or not. Your experience has to be valid as you experienced it and the validity is in the experiencing itself.

(Very firmly) We are strongly encouraging you all to no longer second-guess your experiences, but to take credit for living your experiences as you live them. This will definitely augment your abilities of consciousness. Otherwise, second-guessing is no different from discounting, where someone else has to validate your experience. Does that make sense to all of your lovely selves?

(Yes)

Now, if you have comments, observations, questions on such a process, please feel free.

PAUL T.: Dearest friend Kris, I wish to express my profound gratitude and appreciation for YOU.

KRIS: Do understand that it is within our abilities to appreciate your appreciation, but more than that, it must be within your comprehension and abilities to rejoice in who you are, over and above all other things, even ourselves. Does that make sense to you?

PAUL T.: Oh yes.

KRIS: Now if you wish to party… (Group chuckles)…please feel free to continue.

TOM: I have a question. This is Tom from Hawaii. Kris, with Essence constantly being in a state of change, I’m wondering, when we’re looking, searching for who we are and at different times in our lives we’ll get different glimpses. They can sometimes, I guess, sometimes seem almost contradictory, because they can change later on…..of course, we can just look at it as a part of the change.

KRIS: Firstly, you get a prize! Secondly, you are all of the changes that you accommodate and make allowances for. It is not that because you may now be 45 years old, all of your other ages are not valid. They all have validity up to and including the entire combination thereof. As change is a constant, because it is energy in action, therefore all states of transformations have validity, one no more than another. They are equally valid. It is, after all, your lovely experience. The sacredness of your being IS constant within all of those changes. And in actuality, there are no changes.

TOM: Okay, thank you.

ELLEN: I have a question, Kris. Earlier this evening, I think in the beginning of your monologue, you said something about we as focus personalities are constantly looking to discover who we are. You also said that Essence is also looking to discover who it is. Can you expand upon that a little more?

KRIS: Primarily you search for answers to the question because you also search for answers at that other layer, your Essence layer, even though the words themselves cannot specifically define what that is. You merely search for experiences that allow the blossoming and the displaying of your innate abilities to be. Therefore, if you wish for a kind of answer that approximates the best possible answer it is that who you are IS that you are….as Zen-like as that sounds.

ELLEN: To me, that says that we….we seek to know ourselves through remembering ourselves through Essence, and Essence seeks to know itself through expressing itself through us.

KRIS: The process of providing answers to your question of who you are reveals to you who and what you are. You already have all of the answers possible to that one question. You simply find ways to make it as INTRIGUING and MYSTERIOUS as possible!

ELLEN: (Chuckling)

KRIS: It is the art of the game!

ELLEN: That’s what makes it fun.

KRIS: Indeed. Consider an actor playing a character in a play. The actor will enter the character and provide definitions to that character’s personality and energy. Some of it may be based on his own private life experiences, but there may be other instances where the personality of the character is defined by knowledge not within the actor’s own field of experiences. Do you understand so far?

ELLEN: Absolutely.

KRIS: The actor does know where those traits and characteristics come from, but it is much more fun to allow the character to become the mold through which those new characteristics and traits will be defined and that is the pleasure of the discovery. Does that also make sense to you?

ELLEN: Yes, that’s known as “character depth.”

KRIS: In many, many cases we would even conjecture that you all do the same. (Pause) Are there other comments or observations or questions?

ELLA: I just wanted to quickly ask about the influx of energy itself in the area of the third eye? When it happened there was a certain pressure. Was that because I am resisting it or was that simply indication that information comes through?

KRIS: You have simply activated that center of energy. And when you do, there is an automatic shift in both your energy field and your perceptive mechanisms. The brain receives an influx of chemicals and the body itself enters into a different field. This allows information that may previously have been denied to flow through your form. It also automatically greatly deepens any stage of relaxation. For instance, if you are feeling somewhat stressed by any situation, simply gently rub that third-eye area and you will feel an immediate relaxation.

Are there other questions or comments?

ELLA: I have a follow-up question if I may.

KRIS: Continue.

ELLA: I just wanted to ask you about the phrase that you used at the beginning of the session which was intriguing to me. You described an Essence as “a field of energy in action”. And it’s easier for me to relate to an Essence in trying to envision it, and even though I understand that, it’s something that I would not visually perceive. The question is in the realm where all the Essences are…they’re all interconnected, but individual Essence, as a field of energy and action, does it still have some boundaries or is it all completely integrated between the Essences?

KRIS: Perhaps the answer would be a bit of both. Consider the ocean: at first sight it is nothing but a vast expanse of water, however, there may be currents of fresh water still within the salty ocean water. There can be currents of warm water, cold water, hot water, there are myriads of different creatures living within the water, and yet to the eye it is nothing but a vast expanse of water. But there are still very many individual characteristics within that one ocean, correct?

ELLA: Yes, definitely. That makes a lot of sense.

KRIS: Indeed, any other questions or comments? (Pause) Any questions or comments from the friends out west?

PAUL T.: Yeah, of course. Have you played any Mah-Jongg lately?

(Giggles in the background)

KRIS: Chinese checkers.

PAUL T.: Checkers! Oh, okay… one moment here, let me formulate….the state of witnessing, given time, can turn into the stage of witnessing…and the traditions state that the methodology to do this is through practice — whatever method of practice is the individual’s choice of course — (Chuckle) Um, maybe I’m just being dense, but I believe that’s what you were suggesting to me at the outset of this session. Am I correct in that?

KRIS: In part, but you may have wait for the weeks and the next few months to reveal what you will reveal to yourself. You are in the process of giving yourself gifts.

PAUL T.: Yes!

KRIS: As for the concept of witnessing, even in the ordinary state of alpha consciousness as you understand the terms, you are still witnessing. The practices in various disciplines, which are all very useful, simply make you or enable you to recognize and take advantage of those natural propensities of your own consciousness. What happens when you witness yourself witnessing yourself witnessing yourself in the act of creating?

PAUL T.: Well, what comes to mind is that I confuse myself!

KRIS: Only from your temporal, dualistic perspective. Other than that you are constantly in a state of witnessing, whether you realize it or not. Even from the perspective of Essence, as you think you understand the terms, there are still stages that you may loosely refer to as witnessing, because Essence is very much like an ocean, with its various currents and forms and it too, Essence, participates in a process of witnessing.

Essence is one thing made up of many, also many Essences, thus we have referred to – in the past – of many Essence bodies composing the one state, states of differentiation and non-differentiation, states of dualism and non-dualism. These are not the only two states that one has at one’s disposal. How do you then witness the progressions and the processes of dualism and non-dualism? You can only recognize them from yet another vantage point. Does that make sense to you?

PAUL T.: Only intellectually.

KRIS: Indeed. That is fine for the time being. (Humorously) After all, at your age, one would not want to stress too many of your brain cells!

(Group cracks up)

PAUL T.: I’ve only got two left and they keep bumping into each other. And hey, it takes one to know one! Come on!

KRIS: For those who may be interested, we are not referring to Antolian’s physical age in this lifetime.

(Group laughter)

[MARK’S NOTES: At his point I leaned over and asked Kris how old Antolian is and he replied four cycles.]

PAUL T.: I love you, Buddy!

KRIS: Now what about our new friends in Calgary?

JAMES: We’re doing fine, we’re following……we think we’re following.

(Sympathetic group laughter)

KRIS: If you pretend then everything will be fine! (More laughter all around) Do you have any questions or comments, you and your friends?

NICOLE or MAVIS: We enjoyed the analogy of the ocean and what’s happening below the surface and sometimes we miss what’s happening below the surface. We don’t go deep enough I think.

KRIS: That is correct. And by developing the art of noticing, becoming observant with your style of thinking and making necessary adjustments to widen your perspective that leads to awakening you become much more cognizant of all of the things that exist below the surface. Thus, keep asking questions. Ask questions of the universe. The worst that can possibly happen is that you will get answers!

(Group chuckles)

PAUL H.: Be careful what we ask for!

KRIS: Indeed, it is said that you do need to be gentle with yourself, because your Self is always listening. Now what is the time?

MARK: 9:37.

KRIS: Indeed then, we leave you to your lovely, unlimited, unfathomable and gracious selves wherever in time and space you happen to be.

ALL: Thank you, Kris.

(Session ends.)

Detailed Roll Call:

Toronto: Serge (Joseph), Mark (Philip), John (Sohars), Myrna (Shara-Leene), Dorothy (Ellora), Joshua K., and Katherine
Calgary: James, Nicole, Mavis, Odette
New Jersey: Ella (Lazuli)
Hawaii: Tom (Desire)
Delaware: Ellen (Kwaa’Ji) and Jen (Alma)
California: Paul H. (Janaki), Jo (Rosalie), and Paul T. (Antolian)
Oregon: Lisa (Lauramar)

Awakening

November 17, 2006

Note: Transcript missing…

Opposing and Allowing

November 12, 2006

Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Ellen Gilbert (Kwaa’Ji)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on November 12, 2006

Roll Call: Serge (Joseph), Mark (Philip), John (Sohars), Myrna (Shara-Leene), Dorothy (Ellora), Joshua M. (Midora), and Joshua K.

(7:38 PM)

KRIS: Now we trust that you are very comfortable.

MARK: Thank you, Kris.

KRIS: And we thank you for your consideration. [To Joshua M.] Now we believe that you had a very interesting comment or observation earlier on.

JOSHUA M.: Yeah, it follows close on the heels of what I’d say was a conversion experience and it had to do with a paper I have to write. I was considering “Consciousness: The Evolution of Consciousness, The Birth of the Ego”, and trying to interpret within that was has been referred to as “the Fall” and original sin, and changing our ideas about that or re-interpreting them along with our evolution in consciousness back toward a collective consciousness.

KRIS: Indeed, you enjoy taking on monumental tasks!

(Laughter)

JOSHUA M.: Thirty pages, Kris!

KRIS: Now is that “thirty” or “dirty”? It is a most interesting exploration and though most would interpret the early beginnings of Genesis in that sense, as speaking about the very beginnings of humankind and consciousness in particular. We would like to remind you and others listening that this particular mythology seeks to remind the reader that there was a previous state before the one that is known. Does that make sense to you?

(Yes)

Now for all intents and purposes, what it speaks about are memories, recollections, bits and pieces of ancient stories concerning a world prior to a great disaster, and that would be a world prior to the last great Ice Age. And because the storytellers only worked from bits and pieces in trying to create a new mythology for themselves and that which they could call their own, they did the best that they could, considering what they had at hand.

And though many scholars like to believe that the ancient Israelis existed in a vacuum, completely isolated from the millions of people around them and from the hundreds of various cultures that intermingled with them, the ancient Israelis were not isolated nor in a vacuum. They were in the midst of — in the very middle of, if you wish — at the very hub of one of the ancient world’s greatest thoroughfares. Do you follow?

JOSHUA M.: Perfectly, yes.

KRIS: Many times a great portion of the ancient Israelis were captured by surrounding enemies but they were not always the victims as they have made themselves out to be. And being in the midst of the ancient world’s busiest thoroughfare, they too were subject to philosophies, influences, teachers, philosophers, religious crusades, and hosts of other elements with which they intermingled on a daily basis. Many who spent a great deal of time in ancient Egypt absorbed some of those religious elements.

Many who were involved with other cultures, Mesopotamia, Babylon, and so on and so forth, the Assyrians and many other cultures, also absorbed many of their philosophies to one degree or another and brought these stories back. And in the very early attempts to homogenize themselves into a distinct people, the roots of these ancient stories can become evident. So to think firstly that the ancient Israelis existed in a world all of their own would be the same as if you think that today they exist in a world all of their own, that they have no neighbors, they are not influenced by the actions of their neighbors, in any way, shape or form. Does that also make sense?

JOSHUA M.: Yes.

KRIS: So the rules of many of the Old Testament’s stories are not original. They are fragments of many other tales, told over many hundreds, if not thousands of years, as a means of trying to remember a world that existed before the very last great Ice Age. Because many of the surrounding cultures instilled beliefs in fearsome gods or deities, this also carried forth.

And it would have seemed to these ancient people that if there was in a distant past, a world where the standards of living were far superior, more evolved in many different ways, and now they are laboring so much in an almost inhospitable part of the world, then it must be something someone, or some people, did that merited a punishment of some kind. Does that make sense to you?

JOSHUA M.: Yes.

KRIS: And out of these themes, the mythologies grew and these particular perspectives became foundational to at least three great world religions and dozens, if not hundreds, of other offshoots. Coupled with the area of the ancient world, the hub of commerce and exchange, many other philosophers from other cultures traveled. And we have briefly spoken of this before. For instance, Buddhism is much older than is presently assumed. There have been many other Buddhas before in a very similar line of teachings.

The Gautama Buddha, the “Golden One” is, for the time being, as far back as that history goes, but there have been many others before, and their adepts traveled extensively, setting off small satellite communities in many parts of the ancient world as far away as ancient Egypt, even into Rome, even into Great Britain, or Britannia. So these ideas also had an influence into the basic foundations of the mythologies of the Old Testament.

And many of these writings were interpreted and re-interpreted time and time again to suit the needs of the times, of the cultures, and of the situations. Thus the mythologies flourished, receded [and] returned depending upon the political states. The original idea that there was and must have been a fall from Grace explains however, or tries to deal with, a new experimentation at the level of consciousness.

And of course it would end up in the political soup that existed at that time in that part of the world with so many factions fighting for one thing or another, sometimes simply for the sake of fighting, as something to do other than anything else. And as the ideas get interpreted, re-interpreted, misinterpreted over the centuries and the millennia, more and more distortions seep in.

So at the layer of consciousness itself, you have a poorly interpreted attempt to delve into a different experimentation in consciousness from one that may have existed in the past in your terms. But in other terms still, it is merely a probable line of development from yet OTHER ideas, other projects of consciousness.

This one, in your reality, being a unique experimentation; a petri dish of consciousness, if you like, where individuals attempt to interpret their manifestations of energy from the point of view of a fall from Grace and the erroneous notion of original sin. In truth, there is no such thing as original sin, nor is there such a thing as a fall from Grace, but there is such a thing as DENYING your state of original goodness, and DENYING your state of Grace and seeing everything but. Does that also make sense to you?

JOSHUA M.: Perfect sense, yes.

JOSHUA K.: Kris, why is it almost easier to imagine a state of sin or fall of grace? It’s easier to imagine that than a state of….grace…

KRIS: Because you believe in your collective heart that the human being is flawed and tainted. You have not yet changed your collective purpose on that line of development. It does require less energy to accept your own state of grace and original goodness. And these ancient, ancient mythologies found in the Old Testament are food for many other ideas and philosophies and mythologies from neighboring countries and civilizations all occupying the exchanges within that ancient part of the world.

So it merely displays the state of perception of the affairs of consciousness at that period in your so-called historical past. That simply means that this is the experiment that you are still working on, but you are also beginning to collectively realize the experimentation is not only losing interest, it is waning…losing momentum and that you need to get off that treadmill. Do you follow?

JOSHUA M.: I do, and that’s what I’m looking at…to get off of that [treadmill]…and even today when myself and many of my brothers will say, “Look, we were created in a state of grace, we were created out of love for life,” and when you express that to others, there are many who just don’t want to believe that.

KRIS: And that is their perspective at this point in time, but that is their CONSCIOUS perspective, not their inner perspective.

JOSHUA M.: Okay.

KRIS: Their — you may call it inner Self, inner ego, however you wish to call it — may hold a completely different perspective. The conscious individual, the one that is focused through the senses, interacting with the manifestations of energy that you call the physical world, may hold a different attitude, and expects through indoctrination that it is best [to] screw the other before the other screws you. Because everyone knows in the physical world that your human heart is most certainly as hard and as cold as stone and that you will be made to pay for it, somehow or other. Do you follow?

JOSHUA M.: Yes.

KRIS: And that is only belief. It is expectation.

MYRNA: Would you say that again please? Our hearts that are cold as stone, we expect to pay for…what?

KRIS: For having a heart that is as cold and hard as stone. That is a collective belief and that is not the truth, but you experience it because it is what you believe. Now there are individuals all over the planet that are beginning to awaken to their own inner truth and realizing that that is not the world, it is indeed the artificial world, the plastic world, perhaps even a world without their Visa card or Master card!

(Chuckling)

But that is not the truth of the world that the individual and the collective are not necessarily the way many of your philosophies teach it. That may put some individuals in a contradictory state. It may put them at odds with their own newly discovered views. But that is also part of the process. It is a collective awakening. Some of you may refer to it as the Shift, but it IS a collective awakening to your original state, free from the chains and shackles and bondage of limiting beliefs about yourself and your reality.

That includes awakening to the realization that you are not created in any way, shape or form — and that includes not created by a force bigger than or superior to your own — that would smite you the minute you step out of line, or perhaps turn you into a pillar of salt if you do not listen to its every single command. People are awakening to the realization that such psychotic deities are the product of obsessive minds that seek to control and manipulate the masses.

JOSHUA K.: I tend to believe what you say, that we are in a state of grace and goodness and that’s our natural state, but I think there is a general idea that in reality Nature is really very…can be quite cruel. Basically, the animal kingdom, the insect kingdom, everything eats and is being eaten continuously. This world is about survival. It can be really cruel. It keep thinking that human beings detect that maybe there is…that we are not in a state of grace –

KRIS: It is actually not cruelty. These animals need to eat. They do not slaughter hundreds of other animals, stockpiling it as your race does.

JOSHUA K.: But if somebody would bite into me now, I would feel really pain. No matter how much goodness I believe in, there would be pain and there would be blood coming out of my body –

KRIS: Does that constitute cruelty?

JOSHUA K.: Isn’t pain a form of cruelty, or a by-product of cruelty?

KRIS: Neither.

JOSHUA K.: What?

KRIS: Neither.

JOSHUA K.: It’s not?

JOSHUA M.: I think what you are referring to is a natural evil, not an inherent evil.

JOSHUA K.: Even oxygen now, they are saying that oxygen is not good for you because it is actually destroying your cells.

KRIS: Then indeed, you better stop breathing!

(Laughter)

MYRNA: I’d like to go back to your point about pain. We’ve labeled pain something, obviously.

KRIS: It is merely a stimulus response. You do not need to feel physical pain to be hurt. There is emotional pain as you understand it and that can also sometimes be even more painful, because the scars of emotional pain can last far longer than any physical pain, correct?

JOSHUA K.: Yes, I agree with that.

MYRNA: The fears that drive us….it’s an amazing experiment we’ve set up here.

KRIS: Indeed! Absolutely. The top shelf of creativity. First prize class!

MYRNA: I can’t imagine that any of us are very happy about that!

(Laughter)

KRIS: That is correct! That is why you are beginning to awaken. So there is a mass awakening to your present condition, which is merely the product of conditioning over many thousands of years, being told that you are flawed, tainted, stained, filled with iniquities, and so on and so forth.

MYRNA: I think the key here, Kris, is that we need to change the word “taught” as if there’s some agency outside of ourselves. We have set up this experiment –

MARK: A chosen experiment.

MYRNA: Chosen experiment, so –

KRIS: Indeed! That would mean what?

MYRNA: Well, there’s no priesthood to blame here.

MARK: We wanted to do this.

KRIS: You have allowed this to occur. For what possible reason?

MYRNA: Damned if I know.

KRIS: But you may surmise.

MARK: It was a big change from the previous experiment, a shift out of that previous experiment –

KRIS: Consider something we said recently….that you basically formulate the parameters of your experiences between two extremes. Do you remember?

JOHN: Absolutely. We create a field between opposing and allowing within which we play.

KRIS: That is correct.

MYRNA: You go to the head of the class!

JOHN: I was already there. (Laughs)

MYRNA: Five stars.

KRIS: Now we would not presume to give him an apple, as we believe that was given to Eve!

(Laughter)

KRIS: However, this experimentation in consciousness is most provocative, evocative, deep, transformative and so many other adjectives all in one. It is an extremely creative venture. And between the extremes of opposing and allowing you manifest so many displays of the beliefs that you can engender within only those two parameters, because you are here to discover how you transform energies.

And that state between the EXTREMES of oppositions and the EXTREMES of allowances gives you much creative, and we may even say decorative freedoms of expression. And you display this through the philosophies that indicate philosophies or mythologies that give you or give yourselves some hints as the various and multiples of experimentations that you play with.

We have heard it said that some say that you are not here to learn anything. We would tend to disagree with the semantics of that word. If you are here to discover HOW you manipulate your creative energies, even within a narrow, confined being of polarities, you will undoubtedly learn something!

Learn and rediscover through your own individual and collective awakening that there are NO deities that can bind you to their words, other than the deities that you invent to bind yourselves to your own words. That means that you are very powerful Beings and you are afraid of that great power because that great power is so permissive it knows no bounds, even when you wish to utilize it to experiment with apparent destructive energies, because you know ultimately that you cannot be destroyed. You may reshuffle the pieces of the puzzle, but in reshuffling it does not mean that the puzzle is destroyed, you simply recreate it, correct?

MYRNA: Would it be appropriate to say that the extremes of opposing and allowing might be the same as powerlessness and powerful?

KRIS: We agree.

MYRNA: In other words, I’m hearing in the story that some of these in the original “Fall” — I personally don’t relate to that — but this is an experiment of moving from powerlessness to powerful that we’ve created for ourselves. On my small world, I live that daily to discover my powerfulness, but I look at it historically and the role of those initial stories was, I think, to create in ourselves a sense of powerlessness in order to learn again what it means to be powerful.

KRIS: Indeed. Over the millennia your race has forgotten the ancient meanings of these original stories and mythologies and you have taken them at literal face value. Thus, again, your collective consensus, official reality must in some degree reflect what it is that you believe. Those ancient mythologies could also have been something entirely different.

They could have — and we even suggest to you to wonder what if your original ancient stories ran something like this: Once upon a time a great people embarked on an adventure, and in order to instill a sense of realism to the experience and the journey they had to pretend that they were bereft of power, bereft of knowledge, feign ignorance, and become subject to influences that appeared to be from outside of themselves, perhaps even from within themselves.

And to further the experimentation they had to believe that they were UTTERLY powerless to do anything but follow the dictates of outside influences and as a result create an entire dimension that followed those dictates up to and until there was a realization that perhaps this was merely a myth.

They were enacting a great cosmic play on a scale so large that they might one day remember that they had done this, remember that they had other lives, and awaken to the realization that they were not powerless, meek, flawed individuals, but that they had instead chosen those roles so they could one day again taste the ambrosia of their own power and gradually awaken to the full faculties of this knowledge and wisdom.

JOHN: I like that story.

JOSHUA K.: So Kris, in your opinion, how can one expedite or quicken the –

KRIS: It most certainly would be expedited if someone had a magic wand and took everybody else’s possibility of personally reawakening themselves to that realization away from them.

MARK: Wouldn’t it kind of defeat the purpose to stop the play in mid-production and announce the ending?

KRIS: (Forcefully) CORRECT! Therefore it will never happen! It is the singular individual that needs to re-awaken and remember his or her own participation in the play and nothing but that will do. Otherwise, for someone else to come and try to awaken the collective will only perpetuate the old myth: that they are powerless in the face of apparent external powers.

MYRNA: [To Joshua M.] You have a new book to write!

JOSHUA M.: I’m working on it.

(Laughter)

JOSHUA M.: But what happens sometimes, Kris, if you go against the flow, if you awaken, it’s often easy to forget and to slip back into the groove where you were and where it –

KRIS: Impossible.

JOSHUA M.: Impossible? Or is that a way of fooling ourselves, or fear or –?

KRIS: If you awaken, you are awakened. You might get snippets and small insights. That is not full awakening.

JOSHUA M.: Right, I understand. There’s a lot of habit-breaking that has to –

MYRNA: I’ll say.

KRIS: Indeed. We can say that if you think your physical birth was a pure act of aggression, a re-awakening is just as aggressive an act.

MYRNA: Oh, for sure.

KRIS: But once you awaken, you never go back to sleep.

JOSHUA M.: And will the struggle still be there with breaking habits, and tendencies to habits?

KRIS: Indeed not. These will occur before you awaken.

JOSHUA K.: Isn’t that what enlightenment is about in its own way?

KRIS: Indeed. It does not mean that now the individual is above it all. On the contrary, a truly enlightened individual may wish to quietly nudge his sleeping friend and say to that friend, “Dear friend, wake up now. You are dreaming. Snap out of it and come to your senses.” If friend does not wish to wake up that way, he will not slap him, but simply bless him and go to the next friend. Do you follow?

JOSHUA K.: Yes.

MYRNA: I’m aware as a result of listening to you now for quite awhile…

KRIS: We are glad you do not tire of our humble voice!

MYRNA: Oh, no. Not ever. It’s been profound for me. I’m aware of some major shifts in my awarenesses. I am also aware, just as Joshua M. has spoken, that the habits, the fear habits….I was saying to John today, “I’m trying ALL of these processes and tools that you give us, whether it’s EFT or other, and on many occasion I’m successful with them. I have a core belief — and I understand where this comes from now, it’s a collective, core belief — in powerlessness, and there are times, Kris, when I despair of ever letting go of that fundamental belief that I’m not powerful.

KRIS: It could even be said that there is no need for you to let it go.

MARK: Perhaps you’re enjoying your performance.

KRIS: That is not necessarily what we mean.

(Group cracks up)

KRIS: The idea is not to lop it off, behead it, or anything of the sort. What does Triple ‘A’ mean? Acknowledge, address and…

MYRNA: Yeah, accept.

KRIS: Accept. As you are familiar with EFT, the basic set-up, and then, “Even though, in my heart I fear who I am, I deeply and completely accept myself.”

MYRNA: Yeah. Oh, wait a minute. Even though I fear who I am, the powerful woman or the powerful Being that I am –

KRIS: Indeed.

MYRNA: Okay, that’s good.

KRIS: And the more precise you can be in investigating unique instances and tapping on those unique instances, the better it is. The broader the statement, the more general the statement, the more difficult it is, the more your hand stays Teflon.

MYRNA: It fascinates me, the fear of being that powerful.

KRIS: It is not necessarily about worrying about being powerful, but simply being. That in itself is a powerful statement. The fact that you are is a statement of power because the individual is the power. The individual is the moment and the power. Do you remember? The point of power is now and the individual is that point, is that moment and is that power. Does that make sense to you?

MYRNA: Oh yes, it makes sense. And I remember saying to John, maybe six years ago, when I first read The Power of Now [by Eckart Tolle], and saying “Okay, once we get to the now, what do we do?” (Laughs)

(Group laughter)

Of course getting to the now was almost impossible at that time! But I understand….I just got the purpose of being in the Now and it comes to me every now and again is to feel my power in that, to feel the Earth goddess that I am.

KRIS: Very often some individuals will think, “Perhaps if I do this, I will get to the now, but where is the now? It is slippery, like a greased piglet! It always runs away from me, this now. Where do I find the now, because I have been told that there is some kind of power in the now!? But I cannot find it! Therefore I have no power! Woe is my powerless self!” But the now is not outside you. The now is not a thing that you are not. You ARE that now and that power and you are the one that utilizes it. Does that make sense to you?

MYRNA: Very much.

KRIS: Indeed. NOW, my dear friends, we will take a break and perhaps the more silent, or quiet one will speak with you.

JOHN: Ah!

(Break begins at 8:26. The session resumes at 8:45 with Brahm)

BRAHM: We believe that you have had a very nice rendition earlier on. And the perspective should give you some indication of your own abilities and even raise your expectations to a new level. One of the prerequisites of participating in these great games is a high degree of expectibility. That is why not just any old soul can simply come into your world and be part of the game for the simple reason that this high degree of expectiblilty becomes very fundamental in the building blocks of other realities.

And that is what you are collectively playing with: your building blocks. Just as in your reality your children play with building blocks, whether they are the old-fashioned wood blocks or the new Legos, you are learning to do the same thing at your level with building blocks of consciousness. So you are utilizing parts of consciousness to create and play with as many creative ideas as you can muster up.

And you do this for the express purpose, as Kris has stated, discovering what it is and how much you can do within this sphere of your own influences, meaning the various degrees of opposites and allowances. This puts you into a unique position in some ways. Just as you learn — yes, there is that word again — you LEARN how to play with your pods of consciousness, which gives you outcome, so others watch. They watch you in the amphitheatre of your experimentation and they too learn. You did not after all, think that you were alone in this experimentation, now did you?

JOHN & MARK: Nawwww… (Both chuckle)

BRAHM: So just as you may watch someone else and you learn from their actions, from their inferences, at that physical level you learn through modeling, so at that level of consciousness, other beings also observe, learn, and create their own fun, their own games, their own plays. And they do not learn merely by watching you as if you were a soap opera, but they, to some degree, energetically, also participate.

They feel what you feel, and experience what you experience, but indirectly. That is their methods of learning. They might have no interest in participating directly in the same way that you pretend to be lost in your stories of powerlessness, in your pretending to be without power or effectiveness, but they see, and learn, and understand, when YOU play out these roles. They observe the outcome and then they may choose how they will pursue their own path. And your species — and we’re not talking about your human, hominid species — but your species, do you understand?

JOHN: Our species as Essence?

BRAHM: Yes. Is most respected for your intestinal fortitude, as it were, even though you do not necessarily have intestines at that layer.

(Laughter)

But your energetic fortitude is most respected, simply because you have the guts to go through with those experiences, sometimes to the bitter end. Look at your children. Look how they play. Some will play “sick” and “dead.” What do you think they are hoping to learn here? What do you think children are hoping to learn by playing sick or dead?

MARK: That they are loved? That something or someone will come to their assistance, their aid, to heal them?

JOHN: They’re learning about being well and alive.

BRAHM: Only partially.

JOHN: They’re learning how to follow through on a scenario and see how it works out.

[ELLEN'S NOTE: Interestingly, just as I came to this part of the transcription process, my son passed through the room and asked me what is meant by "character depth." I asked him what it was in reference to. He replied that he had heard a movie critic speak about a particular actor lacking depth of character. I told him that the critic meant that the performance was rather shallow and unconvincing. I said that perhaps that particular actor was not fully immersed into his role, that sometimes an actor needs the perspective of certain life experiences which can allow him to deliver a more believable performance, with depth and sensitivity.]

BRAHM: Yes. They are learning what it is like to experiment with that state. They may have seen old aunts and uncles, grandparents be sick and die and they might like to try and find out what that feels like from their young perspective. Now they do not actually get sick and die, but they get to understand the state from their young perspective. Now you, as a human, hominid species, you play in those roles, but you play them so well you have forgotten them in the moments you can actually snap out of it. You can stand up, run around the room and have fun again. You can paint the walls and peel the (unintelligible word or phrase).

(Laughter)

Or shave the dog! Then go and play dead, and go back and ask for a cookie. Do you understand?

(Yes)

Imagine yourselves in that capacity. You place it and then you can stop. You can get up. You are well, you only play at sick. And at the physical level you learn that you may sometimes derive benefits from playing sick. When you are a child, you do not want to go to school, you play sick. Your mother is worried, she pampers you, gives you extra cookies and ice cream; being sick pays off. It brought you benefits. Next time, perhaps when you play sick again, you will get the same rewards. Do that enough times, the playing sick suddenly becomes sick. It becomes habit. Is that not so?

MYRNA: I’m a little confused, Brahm. If I’m choosing to play that many times in order to get the perspective of being sick, I see it as habit at the physical level, but I see it as choice at a soul level, to experience that experiment and perhaps be done with it. So…is that true?

BRAHM: It is your choice. How often, however, do you enact the choice to not be ill?

MYRNA: (Smiling) I wasn’t talking about me personally. (The group laughs) There are two things operating here. One is, at the soul level there’s a choice to experience a certain scenario. The other is at the physical level….the habits are the way I manifest that choice, right? So I can look at certain threads in my life and decide, “Oh, I made a certain choice to experience, let’s say, lack of abundance,” and in that very moment I have a choice to decide, “No, I’m finished with that experiment. I can pop out of it.” Is that true?

BRAHM: Yes. You are not a prisoner of your convictions. You hold to the convictions or expectations, they do not imprison you, thus, if someone on stage plays the role of Marie Antoinette and pretends to be beheaded, does the actress actually die? It is make-believe, it is pretending.

And as soon as the curtain is lowered, the actress rises, the crowd compliments, the other performers may even consider her role quite convincing because of the applause, but she knows she is not Marie Antoinette and as soon as the make-up and wig and the big pouffy dress comes off, she is her own self again and she does not go out into the street, look at the people and yell at them, “You just go and eat your cake now! I will be beheaded in a moment.” Correct?

MYRNA: Yeah.

BRAHM: Similarly, from the soul’s perspective, perhaps once or twice in your terms, maybe all that is needed to understand the experience of illness, but when the ego begins to also understand the power plays and roles and the benefits that can be had, those conscious level abilities can also override the soul or Self desire to no longer pursue and it will keep on repeating the performance. That is what an unconscious habit is, correct?

MYRNA: Yes, I think that’s where my despair can come in as I am recognizing the habit, it’s the ego playing this again and again and again.

BRAHM: But with your consent.

MYRNA: With my soul’s consent?

BRAHM: With YOUR consent.

JOSHUA K.: What’s the difference between yours and your soul’s consent?

BRAHM: You ARE the soul.

JOHN: Exactly.

BRAHM: It may appear somewhat contradictory but it is not. As soon as you can determine that there are benefits to be derived in other ways, that you may no longer have to go through the usual routines, you may easily dissipate the habit. You have many tools now with which recognize those situations and may even add. For instance, if you are bothered by habitual displays of despair that result in anger, that you can also do something about it before anger raises its head. Your liver is a great processing center. Do you agree?

MYRNA: Yes.

BRAHM: At the physical level, the liver processes toxins from the blood. At the psychological level, that organ represents consciousness’ processing abilities and you could say that there are psychological toxins. Old habits for instance. You can affect the outcome. For instance, you could place your right hand on one side of your liver and as best you can, place your left hand on the opposite side. As best as you can be comfortable, and utilizing imagery or anything that actually comes to your mind, you can bring peace, quiet to the liver as well as enhance the energies with which it actually processes both psychological and physical toxins helping to clear away anger. We also believe that you now utilize your EFT?

MYRNA: Yes.

BRAHM: That can also be utilized, tapping on your karate chop point, and then immediately tapping on the side of the liver, clearing up anger issues. Anger is merely fear. Fear of…..?

MYRNA: Oh! Me? (Laughter)

BRAHM: It is, after all, your thing.

MYRNA: Right, it is my thing.

BRAHM: You could say it with a Southern drawl: “It is your thang.”

MYRNA: (Chuckling) Uh….fear of….fear of my powerlessness. And that’s where my anger does come from.

BRAHM: Indeed. Then, once you have tapped in that area, repeat the tapping, but instead, you can create a different set-up such as, “Even though I do not fully understand the nature of my power, I love and accept it and myself deeply and completely.”

MYRNA: Yes. I love that.

BRAHM: And if you catch yourself red-handed in the cookie jar of anger, if at all possible, actually do the tapping whilst you are in the full swing of a tantrum. And then, as you feel it dissipate, switch over to the positive instruction and you will notice just how quickly you become centered again.

MYRNA: Thank you.

BRAHM: Now what is the time?

MARK: 9:09.

BRAHM: Indeed. We will return your Joseph to you and to each of your selves the knowledge that you are far more than anything you have imagined up to now.

ALL: Thank you, Brahm.

(Session ends.)

Tom Chez (Hawaii)

November 11, 2006

Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Emmy (Atin Khum)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on November 11, 2006

(Session begins.)

KRIS: Now we trust that you are comfortable.

TOM: Hello Kris!

KRIS: And we thank you for your consideration.

TOM: Thank you for showing up to talk to me – I appreciate it.

KRIS: We trust that you have some inquiries.

TOM: Yes I do.

KRIS: And as usual they will be most interesting.

TOM: Thank you. Yes, I’ve got some inquiries. I hope I don’t have too many of them here. Let’s see how many we can get through. I guess we could start with the first one here… this question came up (recently): “Do probable selves arise for each decision we make in life or only for the emotionally charged ones?”

Like “Do I take a shower before I have breakfast or do I have breakfast and then take a shower? “ Would that create a probable self?

KRIS: And what if you wish to have breakfast whilst in the shower?

TOM: (laughs)

KRIS: What kind of probable self may come out of that experiment?

TOM: Well I think everything would get wet. Wet toast too!

KRIS: Indeed, to the ego construction it seems as if each sequence of movements follows a natural linear order in chronological time in the fashion that it is accustomed to and it does not notice that in fact even your very own human personality structure is far larger then any of your sciences have been able to surmise up to this point in time.

You could say for instance, that the personality structure as you know it is more of a carousel then one single point of attention, as you normally understand yourself to be. You do have a singular point of attention but you do not notice that it is every moving. Now you do understand what a carousel is?

TOM: Yes.

KRIS: We could also define it as a merry-go-round. Either way, the point of attention is far more flexible and malleable then you can possibly imagine. And it is because of that great imaginative potential that you may think you have chosen one set of actions, and there could be none other then the ones you have determent as your choice.

But what if you look in your wardrobe, looking at various ties that you would wear with your shirt and suit for work?

You may handle the black tie, put it up against your collar thinking it would look nice. Then you may decide to handle the red tie but as you reach for the red tie you may decide: No, you won’t reach for the red tie, you will reach for the purple tie instead.

And perhaps you decide: No I won’t touch that one either. I’m going to try the striped tie today. You might decide: No, better yet, I have a better idea I’ll try the bow tie instead.

Yet the action of reaching out to the red, the purple, and the striped are all themselves actions, they are a movement and a momentum of consciousness, they would have continued on their own line of development. One aspect of your personality would have gone for each one, and each one initiated an aspect action.

TOM: Wow!

KRIS: Do you follow?

TOM: Yes.

KRIS: But to your mind you would simply have skipped those, you would not have noticed that they became actions in themselves. Because you skipped and skipped and skipped until you’d settled on the bow tie.

So all of the others would also have followed their preferred line of developments and there maybe an aspect of you, a probable self as you call it, that has gone to work in his own reality wearing the red tie and another wearing the purple tie and another still wearing the striped tie and another wearing the original black tie, and then the one that you have identified with as your own self wearing the bow tie, and each one would have continued on their own lines of development.

TOM: Wow I would have never thought it was that way, I would think that only major decisions in life… that’s interesting.

KRIS: So you do not notice the lines of development and that is for your own, we don’t mean it in a negative manner, but for your own protection. Were you to consciously become aware of all the various probable developments stemming merely from the tie selection, your own neurological system would quite likely become overloaded and going to overload and basically cease functioning, jamming up in the process, too much input.

You might not consciously be able to sort out all of the various decisions from all of those probable selves as they continue their own lines of development. So you have a built in safety mechanism, thus in many ways your own ego construction is helpful. It shuts out what you cannot deal with at any one time.

But unconsciously you retain a certain level of awareness. And beneath your own unconscious, where you would then step into the areas of the inner self, you have full awareness. Some of that information may even trickle into the layers of the focus personality, your conscious mind, at times bringing you insight that may have been the result of actions from some of these other probable developments, in ways that can also benefit you.

TOM: So there would literally be billions upon trillions – many, many, many probable selves at any given moment in our time.

KRIS: Indeed, but probable self is for your own reference only. Other than that it is still the Self.

TOM: So it is a multidimensional…

KRIS: This is not meant to render you, as the focus personality, as one singular point of attention, into a miniscule non-entity. On the contrary, this can widen and this is the meaning of widening awareness, that you become much more aware of the actions of your own consciousness, of your essence self, of yourself as essence, as a multidimensional trans-dimensional being.

TOM: So life kind of has a multidimensional thickness to it, from my perspective?

KRIS: Indeed and it is an appropriate identification, a certain kind of thickness to it.

TOM: So we will never create too many probable selves?

KRIS: Indeed not.

TOM: You mentioned when we go into the meditative states, when we do those adventures or journeys, we create a probable self when we speak to the memory of a past self.

KRIS: Indeed. It is not the past as you remember it.

TOM: Right.

KRIS: It is the past as you think you remember it.

TOM: Or perception of the past.

KRIS: That is correct.

TOM: I guess what I’m getting at is then it seems that back during our, I think our second or third discussion we had I gave a model of simultaneous time, with our life starting on the right side I believe, and transformed at the left side of an access. And there were timelines and there were also probable timelines. And you mentioned that there were timelines that actually went vertical. Would those be timelines that connect probable selves and …

KRIS: Everything is ultimately intersecting within the field of Self, that inner field of action. And that is the only action that is necessary. Everything else is an interpretation of that inner field of events. The outer field of events is the way the inner field expresses itself in a different environment.

TOM: I’m trying to figure out if we create a probable self, say of ourselves, we go into the meditation so we step outside of time when we get into that meditative state…

KRIS: Indeed, because you enter into the deeper layers of your unconscious. As soon as you do that notions of time can appear distorted because you are stepping back from the area that is – how could we say best – under the management of that critical area of mind or the ego.

As soon as you do that time appears to be distorted and rightly so because in that state time as you know it is somewhat different. And the deeper you enter into those states, the more there may appear to be distortions, because those areas of Self truly do not hold to the same time values that your regular self entertains.

TOM: So then we’re not literally stepping outside of time, we’re stepping outside of time as we know it, but we’re stepping into another structure?

KRIS: Indeed you are stepping that much closer to the now, to the way the inner self understands all events and circumstances. You interpret them to be something like areas where there are past lives, areas where there are present lives, and areas where there are potential future lives.

And these all make sense to you because of the nature of your own physical neurological structures, the manner in which pulses are fired between sets of neurons in the brain. It pulses at a certain sequence. So you base your notion of conscious time in a manner reflective of that process at the biological level. Once you enter into the area of the greater Self something different happens.

The firing sequences in the neurons is altered, thus giving you the physical sensations that time becomes distorted. Because indeed in that zone, time as you know it does not exist but the brain is not able to experience ‘no time’. Because it is not biological structured, ‘no time’ to the biological brain, to the physical self is death so it will not simulate that.

However it does the best it can. It simply distorts. So the firing sequence between neurons and synapses is altered. What occurs as you enter deeper into these states of consciousness is that the self does not experience any time whatsoever. Everything is now. What you consider past lives is still now, what you consider a present and potentially probable lives are all now, what you interpret as future lives and all of their potentials are still now.

TOM: Right, ok so…

KRIS: And that is how you can make changes, utilising the properties of that zone.

TOM: I was trying to look at the mechanics of these changes and from my perspective if we step in what I would call outside of time, being in a meditative state. I talk to a five year-old aspect or memory of myself and teach it something, knowing that I’m creating a probable self by doing that.

KRIS: Indeed. What you are describing is totally allegorical. You may see a younger version of yourself or an image there off. That image, that imagery and that scene that you are visiting is a metaphorical representation of a whole set of programs.

TOM: Ok, so I’m still modelling this from a linear perspective. I’m not really thinking non-linear.

KRIS: That is correct because you need the imagery in order to understand it. Otherwise, information may make absolutely no sense to you at the conscious level.

TOM: I see, ok.

KRIS: So it represents itself through imagery, but the imagery is composed of a variety of programmes that were instilled at that time.

TOM: So I’m really using a language to communicate with my inner Self?

KRIS: That is correct. That language is image, imagery, allegory, metaphoric language, symbols. That is the language of the Self. That is why you have images in dreams.

TOM: Ok, then even though this is just a model that I’m describing, from a focal perspective then I can think of it as – I do the counselling of the five year old then as I come back to my now, out of my meditative state and become fully awake in my now.

One way I could look at it is that five year old I talk to and I taught something to has just lived for thirty five years and is now forty years old with my same age (approximately) and my same moment and has made a lot of decisions in like no time at all, based on what I taught that five year old when they were five and I’m thinking if there are timelines that connect and I know that there are timelines that connect us at all points but I would think that there would be some forty year-old timeline and all the probable selves might have a specifically stronger connection?

KRIS: Now do keep in mind that you are interpreting this again from a linear perspective. For example as we suggested, that five year old image of self, of you, actually is a means of consciously presenting you with a program that exist behind the scenes. The image is the entry point, that is why you would make certain modifications to the perceptions of the five years old therefore changing the programming.

You yourself are another program. You are imagery symbolizing another program of the greater Self. So you are also allegorical, symbolical representation of another program of that greater self. Each one of you, the five year old or yourself, also have their own probable developments, other programs off-shooting / piggybacking off those, each creating their own various programs as they evolve in their own fashion.

So you are not in some ways specifically changing the five year old, merely the program that has stopped evolving beyond that point, due to a block of energy. Thus when you change the programming you release the blocks and those developments can then follow suit. That also produces influences all the way up to your program. Therefore your own behaviours and patterns, which are based upon programming, also are altered. Certain negative perhaps even destructive habit / patterns may suddenly drop of the scene, no longer to be exhibited in your personality structure, which is itself another kind of programming.

TOM: And that allows for the unfolding and the increase in awareness.

KRIS: Indeed, because each program is imbued with the potential to become self-aware.

TOM: Ok, that is a much better model, a better way to look at it. The non linear perspective that you’ve brought up it’s excellent.

KRIS: Indeed. We know that perhaps the language we used may make it appear somewhat dry – speaking in terms of programming. But anyone who does programming may actually understand it even better and know that it is not dry in any sense of the word.

TOM: Ok. Could you comment on the functions of the critical mind? I guess with respect to our conversations about managing the multiple perspectives.

KRIS: Indeed the critical area of mind is a program again, that has been build up from a certain age in your physical life. You started becoming affected by the words, the actions, the intents of, inferences of those around you, your parents, your family unit, eventually the people outside of the immediate family who may still be family and eventually those even outside the family entirely, the teachers etc, everyone in the world – how their words, actions, intents, and inferences impact you.

The critical area of mind is very often a protective mechanism. The core is wide open – the core of the self. We don’t want to say it is pure and clean, that has implications we do not wish to get into. But the core of the self is very wide open. It is unprotected, as people’s words and inferences begin to have effects upon you, some you may deem, in fact you won’t even judge them at this point, but the programs those words and inferences instil upon you, may carry out negative impacts.

Perhaps as a little boy someone you may have looked up to, may have said something like: “You are so stupid, you’ll never learn anything”. You believed them because you were wide-open. Eventually that program becomes real to you. Those words, their inferences, their implications upon you become your truth. So you may eventually begin to display some level of stupidity and are unable to learn certain things.

TOM: So at that age there is no countering that. At that specific age it’s just something that – it’s a seed that is planted.

KRIS: That is correct. The critical area of mind absorbs all of these things and it keeps those programs running in the background. Your personality begins to be influenced by the things that you collected.

So if all of the negative input has not been countered in some way, then that programming exerts a strong influence. So through certain procedures it is possible to bypass that critical area of mind in such a way that the negative programming can be neutralized and transformed towards a constructive purpose.

Consider then the critical area of mind to be the gatekeeper. Why it allows any keeps in, and it does so merely and only because it considers all of this information to be most valid. It does not discern between negatives and positives as the way you understand it later in life. Does that make sense to you?

TOM: Yes, it’s kind of a packrat. I guess I’m trying to look at it compared to the role that the ego plays. I feel that I know how the aspect of the self – the ego – the role it plays and I’m looking at the critical minds role and comparing it. The ego is the border patrol between the unconscious and is it ok to put the critical area of the mind and the ego kind of into the same aspect type of category or is there a better way to do that?

KRIS: It is sufficient because the ego construction receives much of its information, its data, what it needs to know in terms of operating within the physical world from the databank that is accumulated by the gatekeeper, the critical area of mind.

TOM: Ah ok. So it’s a constant communication between the two?

KRIS: Indeed.

TOM: Or maybe even a one-way communication? (Note: I don’t think Kris heard this.)

KRIS: You always search for instilled programs. That is how you learn to behave. For instance, what do you do when you meet someone new and they start to extend their hand to shake yours?

TOM: Automatically extend my hand.

KRIS: That is correct. Why? Because his beginning to extend his hand infers he is going to shake your hand. You spontaneously look for a program in your own mind that says handshaking program. You kick it in – handshake. Now if this individual begins the action of moving his hand towards yours inferring he is going to shake your hand, your program kicks in. Then instead of shaking your hand he takes your hand and brings your hand to your face.

TOM: (Laughs)

KRIS: You have no program. You will be stuck in a loop. In other words, this individual would have effectively hypnotized you, even if momentarily, because your mind is still searching for a program for this behaviour. It has none. This has never happened before. What do we do?

TOM: Ok.

KRIS: And only when he takes your hand back and then continues the action of shaking the hand will your old programming kick in. Do you follow?

TOM: Yes, so you get stuck in a loop?

KRIS: Indeed, the mind is looking for program, program, program.

TOM: It is searching.

KRIS: Indeed. It is looking for a program that defines that behaviour. It has none.

TOM: So, we need to work with the critical area of the mind just as we need to work with the ego construction?

KRIS: Becoming aware of its contents – taking inventory of what is in that attic.

TOM: Ok.

KRIS: Now that is why paying attention – such as the Triple “A” process – can make you aware of the contents of your own programming(s). And when you become aware of them, when you become aware of why you behave in certain ways, why you physically and mentally behave in certain ways, that you can develop sufficient awareness to transform those physical or mental habits that are no longer productive for you and that is where you widen your awareness. Do you follow?

TOM: Yes, you widen your awareness from transforming the programs.

KRIS: That is correct. Therefore, you will become self-knowledgeable. You have more and more knowledge of what you are all about. And that is what makes such simple looking systems (such) as the Triple “A” so valuable. Consider it the magnifying glass that Sherlock Holmes would use to look for clues.

TOM: So the critical area of the mind does not discriminate between: this program is directly in conflict with that program. It just takes it in and stores it and catalogues it?

KRIS: That is correct. And when two or more programs are in conflict the personality may experience stressful behaviour. The individual may not realize that there are conflicting programs running at the same time until he or she begins to take inventory of the contents of their critical mind, the vast library where literally everything that the individual has experienced one way or another – even from within the womb – is stored.

TOM: So the meditative experiences are a method of working with the inventory the critical mind keeps track of. And we don’t destroy a belief, so I guess it will still be in the critical area of the mind – two conflicting programs – and we would then stop lending, giving energy to one particular program, we just shut it off.

KRIS: Indeed, effectively neutralizing it therefore neutralizing its impact upon the personality itself and instilling in its place a constructive program.

TOM: So we don’t need to concern ourselves with probable selves so much at a focus level?

KRIS: Indeed not, you may explore them certainly. And they can bring you a great deal of self-knowledge. But to go to the point of worrying about which one took-off with the purple or striped tie would render you ineffective in many ways. Because your moment, your now is important, not his now.

TOM: I’m wondering about the critical area of the mind and also the ability to hold multiple perspectives. We might have just the perspective of focus, and that might be one perspective we hold to the events that we see, around us world events that might be tragedies that we really feel bad about, but then there may be another perspective that we can say, well from the perspective of essence this was chosen and we want to maybe expand our mind and be able to have both of these perspectives at the same time. Is this done in the critical area of the mind where we would want to hold simultaneous perspectives and use the one appropriate for a given situation when we communicate with someone else?

KRIS: No, the critical area of the mind would not be involved, but your conscious perspectives – receiving new input / new data – have an influence on the critical area of mind. And depending upon your perspective you may begin to implement then new programs that often – in order to make them appropriately manifest in your life – you may need to allow the neutralization of old programs that would prohibit or inhibit your new program from being run.

For instance, you know very well you cannot run Windows XP and then boot up Windows 3.1. They are completely incompatible. In fact running both systems would render your machine completely inoperable and perhaps even un-recuperable. You can only run one at a time.

TOM: So we are better of looking at these aspects of selves as programs.

KRIS: In a certain manner if one is so inclined. We believe it is fairly understandable to most individuals, and it is neither to cut and dry nor to scientific sounding because your world is steeped in the language per se.

TOM: That gives me a different perspective.

KRIS: Now do understand when we use the word programming we are not referring that human beings are automatons, on the contrary they are living biological programs and your own human biology itself is based upon programming as your sciences understand it in terms of DNA and RNA at that sub molecular level. Thus it is not that far fetched.

The only difference is that in our utilizations of the word program, free will is far more important then in the scientific view where free will seems to appear to be nothing more then the figment of your DNA’s imagination.

TOM: A question about the triple “A” process, I was wondering if we could be more focused in the dream state, more consciously focused in the dream state, could we do triple “A”, meditative, and other exercises from there and would that make any difference?

KRIS: Indeed it would. And we would suggest instead of trying right away to begin the triple “A” whilst in the dream state is to review your dreams whilst utilizing the triple “A”. Get accustomed to the subtle shifts in your energies. And then begin suggesting to yourself that you might begin to awaken in the dream state – even slightly so, developing an awareness of your usual self within the dream environment, to the point where you can become sufficiently aware, so as to participate as an observer and triple “A” the process. But that would require a great deal of practice. You might find it easier to review dreams and utilize the triple “A” to begin with.

TOM: What would the difference be to actually be doing it in the dream state? I guess you would see, I mean we would be able to actually tune into other dreams and different probabilities and different perspectives while in the dream state. Are there any other advantages to doing this within the dream state?

KRIS: Indeed. It would greatly increase conscious awareness of various states available to the personality and you would see a greater correlation between the dream and the waking state with the waking state being another kind of dream perception.

TOM: So working in the dream state will give us an altered, expanded awareness in the waking state?

KRIS: That is correct. And the reason why we suggested that you begin by remembering or reviewing your dreams and then adding the triple “A” and then slowly increase conscious awareness within the dream state is that if you began triple “A”-ing say at maximum capacity in the dream state itself, you would probably lose the focus of the dream. Your conscious mind would simply wake you up.

TOM: Yes, ok is there a specific meditated practise that would assist me in accessing various dream states and focuses?

KRIS: Are you able to remember your dreams well?

TOM: The majority of the time I would say yes, and sometimes it’s very foggy. It seems to cycle. Some days there is so much to write and other days it is more difficult.

KRIS: Why not begin to triple “A” those days and perhaps the reasons why there are areas where such little dream recall is apparent? What are you keeping out of? What is it that you do not wish to process? And suggest to yourself that you can and will remember all of your dreams.

TOM: So when that occurs, there is something that I definitely do not want to deal with at this point?

KRIS: It is very possible for various reasons, and it may not be anything that you might assume as negative, but simply certain situations that you do not wish at this point in time to consciously perceive. It might be even communications from your so called future selves, that you are not ready to implement because you may sense that you would have to change too much, this or that part of your life. These are merely examples they are not the absolutes. Do you follow?

TOM: Yes. So the communications from future selves…

KRIS: As examples and as well the more you are able to remember and write down your dreams, the more you bridge these two areas waking and sleeping states. You can even get to the point of having no more then a 15 – 20 minute nap in an afternoon and be able to remember more than one dream. Even then dreams are not limited to night time. Does that make sense to you?

TOM: Yes, so my best bet is to do the triple” “A to why I’m not remembering it rather then…

KRIS: As an example…

TOM: Would the meditative state and increasing the meditations I do per day assist me in…

KRIS: How much do you do?

TOM: Well I’m just starting out. I wanted to do two, but I try to do one right now, and I’m thinking about…

KRIS: Do what is possible. Do not stress it. If for instance you force yourself to do two, but your daily schedule is rather compacted, you may even begin to resent that you are taking time out to do a meditation.

TOM: Does this also have to do with mood if you are in a bad mood you shouldn’t do your meditation?

KRIS: That is correct – for that purpose. However you can take some time out to triple “A” and even “EFT” your mood to change it, become aware of what is causing the bad mood. And remember as we said it is never about a thing or the other or the boss or the grocer or the butcher or the parking ticket officer, it is about the individual. So your moods are entirely dependant upon you. You create them. Does that make sense to you?

TOM: Yes it does.

KRIS: So with that knowledge you can already win half the battle as it were.

TOM: Yes, that helps a lot when analyzing what’s going on in my life. Knowing that it is not the other person it is a reflection of what is going on inside me. And the world is a reflection.

KRIS: That is correct. Even if it seems preposterous, outlandishly so, step back and understand that you are giving more excuses to avoid looking at this situation. Even when your entire mind screams at you that it is obvious: “It is the other person”. That is when you need to really step back and look at yourself. Now may we inquire as to the time?

TOM: 4:28

KRIS: How much longer?

TOM: About 7 minutes.

KRIS: That is fine. Please feel free to proceed.

TOM: Ok. Well I guess this next questions starts us into a different topic and I have quite a few questions on this other topic, but maybe we can just touch on it and then the next session maybe we can go into all these other questions more in depth. It has to do with dream projection. And what I’m thinking about here is that I would like to have dream projection adventures with others. I’m just wondering – do I need to master this by myself first and then eventually meet up with others?

KRIS: Indeed not. But it is important that you become even more aware of dream recall and learn to manipulate your consciousness as you enter into the hypnagogic state and you enter Bardo. Bardo is the Tibetan Sanskrit word for the in-between state, in-between conscious and sleep so that you can enter into other areas where there is projection involved. But it is important to remember your dreams, so that you develop better awareness.

TOM: When becoming aware in a dream in a lucid dream, consciously aware, I know that I’m not in the correct dream state or what some people call the dream body to do a projection and I try to access these other layers. I’m wondering if there are any practices that I can do to more easily and directly access the other layers. You said I needed to become familiar with and develop the zone. Would you have any specific practice that I can do to develop that zone and to know the different areas of a conscious dream – consciously aware dream?

KRIS: Right now you are sitting at your computer. You have the headset on. Now without looking particularly at anything, just become aware of where your hands are. Do not look. Simply become aware of where they are, perhaps on the computer desk or on your lap or perhaps one each.

Now without looking again or even moving your body, become aware of your head and of the chair you are sitting in, of your feet perhaps on the ground or floor. Become aware of the sensations in your hands, whatever sensations there are, become aware of them. And perhaps those same sensations in the hands can be found elsewhere in your body. Notice it. And as you are noticing those sensations, very gently move your head a few degrees to the left, as if by only a few degrees your left ear wants to touch your left shoulder, now a little bit more and just a little bit more and just a little bit more. Now reverse the action in the same increments. Your head wants to return to its upright position, just a little bit more towards the centre. And each time become aware of the movement, just a little bit more again and just a little bit more until your head is perfectly centred on your shoulders again. Now this time your right ear wishes to try and reach your right shoulder. So just a little bit to the right, just a little bit to the right, just a little bit more, now reverse in the same amount of little bits towards centre and again, and again, fully centred.

TOM: So that’s done in the dream state and that will give me awareness of my body?

KRIS: That is done in the waking state. Now you did pay attention to everything we suggested. You noticed the sensations in your hands, similar sensation in your body, the sensations of your feet on the floor, your body on the chair. You noticed the different sensations when you moved your head a little bit to the left a little more and more and back and back and so on. Correct?

TOM: Yes.

KRIS: Each one seemed to produce not only the physical sensation but, a feeling to it. And whenever there was a feeling in your body you physically reacted as well in one way or another. They all go hand in hand. So you’ve paid attention to all of those.

Similarly, practice this little method whilst you are awake. Perhaps this may become your sensation meditation, the second little meditation you might try to do. It does not take long, no more then a few minutes, but it increases your level of awareness. Correct?

TOM: Yes.

KRIS: Then after you are practiced in this area, you may extend this to the area that is often revered to as the hypnagogic state, as your body relaxes when you are falling asleep.

TOM: Ok.

KRIS: And you need not move your head in any way, but you pay attention to the movements of your consciousness as it prepares to dissociate from your waking environment to the dream environment. And pay attention to the various stages, just like a little bit to the left, a little bit to the left, and a little bit to the left and then back to centre back to centre back to centre. So you will notice those fluctuations. Pay attention to them. Become practised in that area until you begin to feel that you have sufficient grasp of that energy, as if it were an internal consciousness muscle. In the same way you became aware of the sensations and the movements of your neck muscles every time you inched your head closer to your left shoulder and then back again and then closer to the right shoulder and then back again – each in incremental steps. Does that make sense to you?

TOM: Yes it does.

KRIS: Because consciousness, as you understand it, can also be perceived as a muscle. Thus by becoming aware of your physical form and then later on incorporating the movement of consciousness as it dissociates from your waking environment your bedroom into the sleep or dream environment, you’ll have an awareness of what is occurring. And that will give you greater probabilities to actually then take-off consciously and this may be preliminary but it will give you sufficient exercise and when you have the possibility take notes – afterwards of course. Taking notes during the process will be counterproductive.

TOM: Ok.

KRIS: But as soon as you can afterwards take note of everything that occurred, even the small sensations. Remember, you are becoming a scientist in dreams here, so a scientist records everything, does not censor anything.

TOM: Ok, that’s in all three states, the waking state, in the state just before falling asleep, and also in the deep dream state where I’m consciously aware – record the sensations.

KRIS: Indeed, indeed.

TOM: Ok that’s excellent Kris, thank you very much for that, I guess our time is up.

KRIS: Indeed.

TOM: I appreciate you coming and talking to me. And maybe next time I can continue with more questions on dream projection, and I’ll work on this exercise that you’ve given me.

KRIS: That is correct. And do enjoy your adventures. And we thank you for your consideration and we return Joseph to you.

TOM: Thank you.

(Session ends.)

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