Open Mic
June 25, 2006
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Ellen Gilbert (Kwaa’Ji)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on June 25, 2006
Roll Call: Serge (Joseph), Mark (Philip), John (Sohars), Myrna (Shara-Leene), Katherine (Colombia), Cathy (Segova), and Ellen (Kwaa’Ji)
(8:11 PM)
[ELLEN'S NOTE: Prior to the session's start, we were enjoying a long conversation, mostly concerning Saturday's workshop. Katherine was asked if she had done any research into her newly dubbed Essence name, Colombia, and she regaled us with a long, involved (and rather hilarious in retrospect) story of a precarious adventure she'd had in that country many years ago. It took us well past the usual start of session time.]
KRIS: Now we trust that you are comfortable.
MARK: Indeed.
KRIS: And it is nice once in awhile to get a word in edgewise.
(Everyone cracks up)
It is not as if we speak on and on!
ELLEN: Never!
KRIS: Now perhaps to lighten your mood, especially after an almost entire day yesterday, perhaps the evening can be lighter with some of your own questions and inquiries.
MARK: NODI! I kind of pictured so many of them around me that there wasn’t really any space [between them], but then I looked at Joseph’s diagram and there seemed to be like one here, and one here, one here, connected by the strings, yet I was picturing all these tight little honeycombs everywhere. Could you maybe speak about that a little bit?
KRIS: Joseph’s picture is merely that: an attempt to clarify what it represents to him. Now what we presented and what you seem to imagine is somewhat different for the simple explanation that you seem to be concentrating more on what you think units of consciousness may represent to you. The whole of space is filled and indeed, there is nothing but units of consciousness.
MARK: Yes.
KRIS: The NODI may be represented differently per individual, but there would be an overall description that, since we have identified three different layers, there would indeed be many of them, correct?
MARK: Yes.
KRIS: In those terms. But they do not necessarily need to occupy your subjective space, or subspace, to the degree where it is all filled with them. Does that make some sense to you?
MARK: Yes, it does and I also understand that we’re using a tool here and it matters not how I picture it as long as I have a working model in my mind. If I can reach a NODI and connect it to another NODI when need be, it works.
KRIS: Indeed.
MARK: Thank you.
CATHY: Kris is everything, not just humans, but does everything have NODI, like animals, plants….in other words, the field of consciousness? The consciousness units are in and throughout everything …so, is it …maybe not relevant for them? Maybe they don’t need to have the NODI connection in the way that we?
KRIS: That is correct.
CATHY: Okay. So there aren’t NODI fields?
KRIS: Animals do not bury their issues as you do. However, the exception being domesticated, specifically companion animals.
CATHY: Oh!
KRIS: Because they are more directly projections of your own energies, literally a packaged portion of your own energy. And if you will notice, many companion animals mimic some of the behavior of their humans and may even develop illnesses comparable to their humans at times, so this system will extend to them as well. We are not talking about cows in the field, but merely those companion animals you share your homes and lives with. Does that answer your question?
CATHY: It does to a degree. I was just wondering in terms of like, people communicating with animals, and not just western civilization pet psychics, but more traditional societies and so forth, what’s the communication then, if it’s not just a NODI or some type of transmission or carrier?
KRIS: You will understand it as telepathy.
CATHY: So just telepathy as in mind-to-mind.
KRIS: Indeed.
KATHERINE: I have memories of having a telepathic type life where I can recall knowing that certain people were going to show up and knowing that people were on the way or something, and then they did come (chuckling)….just friends, but…I’m wondering…do you know where that might have been? In what country?
KRIS: (Pause) You have several focuses in European countries in different time periods. In many such focuses, your own Expressions, whether male or female, seem to have an inclination for some of the intuitive arts. In some cases you were very much in tune with nature, the environment, and were well-versed in the use of herbs and natural remedies. So we believe it is within that range of focuses that you explored possibilities of different kinds of intuitions.
KATHERINE: Where would I have been? Just, all over Europe?
KRIS: There are two lifetimes….one in France, one in Italy….there is one in Wales.
KATHERINE: Hmm…I don’t know which one it was, because I just remember the other people. I think the other people who were coming were also using telepathy to let me know that they were on their way. I think they were coming from far….traveling….maybe on foot.
KRIS: For most instances, people do not generally make it a point to telepathically email another. Do you understand? Few people make it a conscious effort to telepathically signal the other, BUT, because all humans are so closely related in terms of consciousness and if there are any other family or friendship ties, it makes the bond even tighter, so to speak. Thus, even if there is a hint of intent to pursue, say, visiting you, you would telepathically receive that communication, even if you are not conscious of being in that mode and you would respond to it through intuition as you understand it.
KATHERINE: I think I was conscious of it at the time. I got their impression, their intention….but I was conscious of it…so maybe they’re rare…and not very many people do, but of those who do specifically endeavor or whatever….what is that…which…
KRIS: (Inaudible)
KATHERINE: Okay…but it wasn’t one of those in Europe, was it?
KRIS: There were these three where there was indeed a great deal of intuitive activity.
MARK: Could her dream have been an interpretation of communication with Self? With Essence, in some way, shape or form?
KRIS: Dreams are always interpretive, but we do not believe at this point this is accurate.
KATHERINE: It wasn’t a dream, more of a memory.
ELLEN: (To Mark and Cathy) Did you guys want to go into your dreams of last night? You had several.
MARK: I had to laugh, because I had a Cleopatra, Julius Caesar dream in a different time frame. I actually got to kill Julius Caesar. (Chuckling.) [At yesterday's workshop, Kris had used the example of Cleopatra and Julius Caesar and how we can re-create valid representations of those lives within our own greater experiences]
(Long pause)
Come on, you guys MUST have questions!
MYRNA: I do….where I’m hesitating is knowing that this is going out and it feels more like a personal question so I’m hesitating asking it.
KRIS: The idea that we presented yesterday in making small attempts to restructure what you have been taught is the official, historical timeline, has its importance in many different areas. People are often indoctrinated by whatever system is prominent in your societies, educational, religious, legal, governmental, etc. and this does structure the neural pathways, the manner in which many people behave, both for or against any system.
For instance, you may observe some people at a red light in the middle of nowhere, no cars or any vehicles for hundreds of miles and they will patiently wait for the light to go from red to green, without ever thinking that they can cross; and there are many different, similar examples of all kinds.
There are a variety of people who also follow very strict, even rigid roles in other areas, where the structure does not permit any leeway in any other direction than the one they have been taught, whether it is in their religions or otherwise. And this effectively anchors the official line of consciousness in such a way that information that could reach them from inner communications is effectively blocked. The mental structures are often overly rigid and unbending, does not allow for any information other than that received through the official or officially recognized means of communication via sensory means. Do you follow?
MARK: Yes, I do.
ELLEN: There’s a variation on that, too, which kind of fits into my mindset half the time, is that if I’m out there at that red light and there’s no one around, I’m sure there might be a cop (Group laughter) behind a bush somewhere!
KRIS: And that is also part of that structure and indoctrination.
ELLEN: Yeah.
KRIS: Meaning that if you even DARE cross when the light is RED, even though there is not a soul for a thousand miles, you will be punished. You will be found guilty of a transgression.
MARK: (Humorously) Let the record show you’re talking to a crossing guard!
(Raucous group laughter)
[Ellen's works part-time as a crossing guard.]
KRIS: The implications are very deep that if you dare think that you will receive any information other than through the official paths, those that are recognized, you might be guilty of some kind of transgression. Do you follow?
ELLEN: Yeah.
MYRNA: I’d like to go on record as somebody who actually goes on the red light. (Group chuckles) I would like to go on record for that! HOWEVER, my experience of doing those things, of saying, “Wait a minute, what am I sitting here for?” I find over my life, this particular lifetime, has….in another example….feeling…isolated. Like, I do it, but I don’t see anybody else doing it. I do lots of things that I don’t see other people doing, and I end up after awhile getting very tired, very weary….and feeling like there’s just no support…there’s nobody there to share things with, so….I’m going to park that just for a second, Kris….because it’s relevant to something that I want to ask you.
What I’m left with as a result of yesterday is not a lot of detail. I never am, but I’m left with a very strong impression and the impression is that I’m standing here as the one NODI and there are many of my other focal personalities standing around me. They’re not past, they’re not future, they’re…they’re all here.
I’m not quite sure how to use that information and probably won’t be for awhile and I want to use that information to deal with this issue of isolation. There’s a book I read many years ago called “Astrology for the Soul” and I seem to be really pegged around this theme of isolation and I suspect if I go back to many of my other lives, there are lots of examples of isolation. I would like to know how to work with those….that group of me…the group of Shara-Leene so that I don’t feel this.
ELLEN: Seems like you just grabbed a NODI!
(Laughter)
ELLEN: You just opened up a NODI! (Gesturing by bringing up hands as if opening up a book and peering in.)
KRIS: We will return to this in a moment. The main idea is that firstly, we are not advocating in any way, shape, or form, that you start breaking the rules!
(Laughter)
Such as, asking the bank teller for large withdrawals, even if you do not have an account at that bank! Such as deliberately running red lights, and so on and so forth, but we are suggesting that you investigate those hidden rules that you create that govern the behaviors of your lives, especially in those areas. And we utilized the example of history as it has been handed down to you and play with rearranging it in your mind’s eye, in your imagination, and observe what occurs as a result.
See how some of your own thinking pathways, neurological pathways, may be altered as a result, freeing up the flow of ideas and creativity. And that is the purpose behind our suggestion, whether you do it in the traditional way, dreaming whilst you sleep, OR you engage in a directed daydream, deliberately mixing up what you have been taught about history, not obviously to change people, other people’s understandings of history, that is not the purpose, but to alter the rigidity of your own mental restrictions. Does this make sense?
(Yes)
It can indeed be very playful.
JOHN: Kris just as a finer point, I was talking to some friends at one point and I came across this idea that, everybody when they have a shower in the morning, goes through a ritual that is, I’m going to bet virtually identical every time. This is my habit, anyway: I always wash my hair first, then you know, you go through a certain pattern of things…
(Everyone snickers)
…and…no, but I just think it’s very interesting because on the one hand it means you can go on autopilot and you don’t have to think about it, so it’s a handy thing…but on the other hand, you know….if, for instance, I don’t get a chance to do things in the exact order that I like to do….for instance, not to put too fine a point on it, I like to have….I like to visit the commode first….
(Laughter)
(Speaking loudly over our guffaws) THEN the shower, because it’s very efficient, but SOMETIMES I am not able to do that in a way that’s satisfactory…
ELLEN: We get your drift!
JOHN: But that can affect….you know…the whole morning! Because you’re thinking, “Geez, you know….”
ELLEN: (Humorously) Broke that rule! Well, what difference does it make? It all goes down the same drain, right?!
(Laughter)
KATHERINE: But if your behavior…didn’t Kris just say that our behavior patterns are sort of reflective of the neural pathways, like….is there like a correlation between our behaviors and our ideas?
KRIS: The more rigid the mental patterns are, the more likelihood that your physical behavior will also be more rigid, perhaps even to the point of being slightly or more neurotic.
ELLEN: So does freeing up your physical behavior patterns help to free up your mental behavior patterns?
KRIS: Preferably the mental first.
ELLEN: The other way around, yeah. Okay.
KATHERINE: I find that people with really rigid thinking patterns like that, often authority figures or people who work in the bank, or I don’t know, just individuals, I find them to be very irritating.
(Slow eruption of laughter)
I just seem to clash with people like that! (Chuckling) Because I refuse to behave that way! It’s not natural to me.
JOHN: But of course, that’s YOUR pattern.
KATHERINE: I’m just free and happy, I just have a good time. I’m not…
MARK: Getting back to my dream there (of Julius Caesar and company) I think that was the message, that I now, with this discussion and with interpreting it better, the dream WAS playful…I did feel different emotions throughout it, I WAS more than one character at any given time as well as the watcher….and I think it was a playful way of trying to understand the concept of what we were discussing yesterday. It was an encouragement for me to explore it.
KRIS: The very idea that you can notice how some of your own thinking patterns, mental habits, can be so rigid and make small, incremental steps to alter how you think in a creative fashion, can have a very deep impact upon your personality. Especially when, for instance, you might feel that even thinking certain thoughts warrants branding you as someone guilty of some offense. And there are many people who actually do physically become upset, even for thinking something they believe they should not venture into.
JOHN: Oh yeah! Been there.
KRIS: And that is one of the directions of your resistances. And if you sometimes take the time to notice these things, you may indeed discover that you have at one point in time in your lives, set up barriers to certain information. For instance, take many children who may have dreams about having had other parents, other siblings, children of their own, other families, lived in another culture, etc., obviously reincarnational bleed-throughs and one or both parents may smile the first time they hear these descriptions.
But say the child reports such dreams several times and it is something that the parents have been indoctrinated against. They may eventually tell the child to stop having such nonsense, to say such nonsense, it is all in their imagination and they should not tell such lies, and so on and so forth. You may be able to imagine what that instills in the child, and for fear of offending the parents and all retribution, the child will naturally begin to erect a fortress-like wall against those lines of communication, effectively sealing them in. Do you follow?
(Yes)
Say, then, twenty or so years go by with never such an incident again encountered by the individual, until perhaps a stressful or traumatic event of some kind and it need not necessarily be negative in your terms, but perhaps even exciting, somehow or other the energy utilized to shore up that fortress-like wall is directed elsewhere, and momentarily the information that has been dammed up behind it starts to leak through. A hole in the dam appears.
This may indeed even cause distress in the individual, and in some cases has led some people to seek psychiatric or psychological assistance. And when such processes are not fully understood, the individual may even be given prescribed medications to keep that part of the consciousness numb.
Then there are other individuals who may suddenly begin to understand, perhaps even only something, without any specifics, and then gradually begin to put two and two together and understand that, as a child they were very strongly told to keep this information buried, which they did with diligence, but now they are at a time in their life when they no longer have to be under the influence of those dictates. Thus, they may recognize the opportunity on their own to do some exploration into that lost inner world they are just rediscovering. Do you follow?
(Yes)
MARK: That’s a very classic case of denying in ourselves what others encourage us to deny in ourselves. Imagination I think, is one of the very first things that we’re…
KRIS: Indeed and as was pointed out in your lovely discussions over the last few days, without imagination’s properties, your civilization would not be. YOU would not be. You are here because you can imagine yourselves to be here. And the true source of imagination is far greater than anything you can even imagine.
(Laughter)
KATHERINE: (Gropingly) Imagination, it doesn’t bring out the brain, the imagination is already there, and our brain sort of lives inside of the imagination…the larger…I don’t know…
JOHN: Yeah, you’re right.
KATHERINE: Something like that?
JOHN: Makes perfect sense to me!
ELLEN: Imagination creates everything. Imagination creates worlds.
KATHERINE: But….but the creative part of it, though…
MARK: Even thought itself does not originate in the brain.
KATHERINE: Right…I wouldn’t think so…
KRIS: Your brain is the physical counterpart of what you refer loosely to as the mind. And it is that aspect that processes much of the information, whether you decide it reaches you or not.
KATHERINE: Okay, but are imaginary….or…are all the thoughts already out there existing and then we as individuals…take and make it more creative or something? Or, where is it residing before we get a hold of it?
KRIS: You all live in an ocean of thoughts and you take that which resonates with you, you transform it, give it a new life. You make it your own, as is the very nature of consciousness always in a state of transformation from one to another.
KATHERINE: But the one that’s there first….that you use to transform into another…where does that one come from? Like, are we all sharing that network of ideas and information where, we as individuals…or are we creating a vast network….oh, I don’t know…
KRIS: Both. Once you try to pigeonhole all of these processes into very neat little rational compartments, you actually lose the very intent. Thought DOES NOT FOLLOW the principles of your rational mind. You utilize your rationality to compartmentalize your thinking processes and in order to get a better understanding. It is not even necessary, but we would even say IMPERATIVE to understand at least some of your dreams, because thoughts are never one thing specifically. When you perceive what you call a thought, you pick up merely the tiniest fraction of vast concepts, idea complexes. Do you remember those?
JOHN: Oh yeah!
MARK: Oh yes.
KRIS: Indeed…And you transform them according to your own belief structures, and you give it a different interpretation. Once that thought leaves your mind, what happens to it?
KATHERINE: You mean, after I use it and …
KRIS: After you have thought your thoughts and you move on.
KATHERINE: I imagine it carries on in its own creative venture. Does it develop its own will? Its own….intent?
KRIS: It has energy, but it has no will or intent in that sense. Those belong to you.
KATHERINE: Oh, okay! Well….sort of like a vibration.
KRIS: It would not necessarily apply, but once you have transformed the thought as you experience it, that energy still continues, just like a dream. If you notice, you always enter a dream that already exists.
KATHERINE: Hmmm. That’s interesting!
KRIS: And what happens to the dream when you awaken?
KATHERINE: It continues.
KRIS: Indeed and if you become, any of you, become sufficiently expert at NOTICING your actions within dreams, you can actually program yourselves to re-enter that dream and notice how it has been transformed. It WILL be transformed, but you will still recognize it.
KATHERINE: As the same dream?
KRIS: Indeed.
MARK: So when a thought leaves you, your awareness, it can…it’s free to continue on its merry way so that others can pick up that thought and transform it…it enters other people’s awareness, other Essence’s awareness, or whatever.
KRIS: And they will be transformed by it as it will be transformed by them.
MARK: And then it continues again…
KATHERINE: So it has an effect on others…
ELLEN: A thought can spark an idea, which can spark imagination, right?
KATHERINE: Yeah.
MARK: Same with dreams.
KATHERINE: So that’s everything, right? Without imagination, we couldn’t….nothing would be, right? Hmmmm….
MARK: (Humorously) Things that make you go Hmmmmm…
KATHERINE: Well, so for us then, putting imagination in that brain, on that movie screen in our brain…the way we picture imagination is only…
KRIS: Partially true, but you do need some reference point.
KATHERINE: Yeah.
KRIS: Thus you imagine your imagination in some specific way.
KATHERINE: (Chuckling)
KRIS: And that is acceptable. You need that referencing. Once you are able to notice the flow of idea threads and complexes, your own perceptions can and will be altered, as is the nature of consciousness. And when you become sufficiently able to re-enter the thread of a dream, for instance, you will definitely be pleasantly surprised because those transformations will eventually also flow over into your physical life as much of the ideas and experiences of your dreams eventually trickle down to your physical life in one way or another, correct?
(Yes)
That is how your world and physical reality, the material universe, IS transformed. THAT, in its own way, is evolution. Now, we suggest a small break.
(Break at 8:56 PM)
[MARK'S NOTES: Break consisted of various conversations regarding "Thoughts", "Idea-Complexes", dreams, importance of writing down your dreams and the NODI. Ellen expressed her desire to better understand the NODI. Katherine was attempting to visualize them.]
(9:08 PM Return.)
KRIS: Perhaps describing it this way may provide you with a better visual: pretend that you live within a bubble of awareness. You are prettily bubbled. And within that bubble of awareness are many other smaller bubbles. They are all linked in some way within your bubble of awareness and you can call upon them for some of these things we have described yesterday. In terms of physical discomforts or otherwise, you may look for that bubble that may be disconnected and NEEDS to be re-routed to allow the continuous flow of energy within your bubble of awareness. Does that make some sense to you?
JOHN: Yes. I like that.
MARK: Yes.
KATHERINE: (Jokingly) You might have just burst our bubble!
ELLEN: So in a way, the conversation I had with Myrna and the way it….freed up that energy….was a physical…it was….(Gropingly) it wasn’t just physical but…..it was a…it was a connection that flowed between the two of us that I felt was being resisted every other way I was turning. It’s almost like….(Laughs) she was a frikkin’ NODI herself!
(Group laughter)
MYRNA: (Chuckling) I wondered about that! You somehow called me in.
KRIS: We did allude to the idea that various focus personalities themselves could be considered NODI within the body of Essence.
ELLEN: Exactly.
KRIS: So you can simply transfer that down one notch, that the bubbles within your bubble of awareness are similarly represented. Does that make some sense?
ELLEN: Yeah. I think so.
KRIS: The main idea is that you have fun with this. It is not meant to become another rigid system, but one that CAN be played with.
ELLEN: Oh yeah, it’s just…getting the feel for it.
KRIS: Indeed.
ELLEN: And then I feel playful. (Laughs)
KRIS: And that is the main thing.
ELLEN: I mean, even the Triple ‘A’ became playful once I got it.
KRIS: But as was pointed out, once YOU get it, many other people also get it.
ELLEN: Yeah.
CATHY: You know Kris, today on our walk what I was thinking about after we had basically turned around to come back, was that yesterday when we were going through the past life experience, identifying other focuses and so forth, on the way back I was thinking today with the NODI link. I’ve got NODI, they’ve got NODI, we’ve all got NODI and I was really tuning in to the Spanish, the Spanish man, the artist/alchemist and the old Tibetan or pre-Tibetan lama, priest whatever, and there was a point where I was thinking that we’re all sharing individual life and everything that we have gathered and gained and learned and so forth on many levels.
There is a constant give and take with our sharing information back and forth with one another. So for a moment I was thinking, “These guys seem to be so accomplished and so knowledgeable and all that, what could my focus represent for them? What could they be learning from my focus? How could they be benefiting? How could it contribute something of value to them?”
KRIS: Indeed and a most honorable question.
CATHY: Yeah, and it’s like for a second I was thinking to myself, “Don’t think of this in terms of that, that they’re big accomplished masters probably flying all over and stuff, and you’re just like this little, crazy woman from Philadelphia,” and it popped into my head, as though one of my focuses said: “YOU HAVE GOT SUCH FREEDOM in the 21st century, that the systems we had to go through, the way we had to train and learn and develop and so forth…YOU don’t even need those!
“You have other ways of doing it and accessing this information that are so much easier. You don’t have to go and have a little private room in your house in southern Spain during the Inquisition, because you have to PRETEND you’re a Catholic and a regular painter, when in fact you’re an alchemist and a revolutionary on the side.”
And it was sort of like, “Don’t worry. It’s all another form of the same kind of information. We’re all here to gather it and incorporate and to USE it, be creative with it, and to add to the creative flow and design of the whole system that we’re all involved in.” So it’s forwards and backwards in time equally, because there is just that eternal present Now. And it was almost like there’d been like “Its okay! It’s cool! (Chuckles) Segova’s in charge!”
KATHERINE: They had feelings, like they got an impulse from you.
CATHY: Yes, I had a feeling that they were communicating this to me.
KRIS: Indeed, and in many respects your own substantial Sumari interconnections, in many respects, provide a powerful grounding for many focuses. In other respects you are also very much like a lightning rod where you attract many of these situations. The manner in which you process does feed many of your other focuses, giving them a taste for the breaking down of their own mental rigidity.
CATHY: I like that.
KRIS: In other words, you kick ass, Girl!
(Riotous laughter)
CATHY: It’s not the first time I heard that!
KATHERINE: Its fun to indulge in just taking upon the freedom, like one day just saying to yourself, “I’m free to think what I want and believe what I want and do what I want,” I mean, really, ultimately you are. And relatively, we’re able to stay out of danger in this place and time…so I find myself really grateful to be here.
KRIS: There was a time not that long ago in your civilization where you were not even allowed to think differently from the Church. If the Church said that the sky was filled with polka dots and you said differently, this was sufficient proof to brand you a heretic, a witch, and do away with you. So people streamlined their thinking caps and created an artificial schizophrenia on a mass level to mask their true thoughts, in that sense of the word, from the world lest anyone suspect they thought differently. Do you follow?
(Yes)
Thus instilling a specific regimented mindset can be very detrimental. In this day and age you are learning to free yourselves from such regimented mental structures, but it has been so deeply ingrained that many still feel a great deal of guilt even trying to think differently.
There is another advantage to all of this. When you start taking apart those mental brick walls, even if only one small brick at a time, you exert an influence upon all the other focuses that may in their own way also be dealing with a similar issue in their own right, perhaps inspiring them to take out one small brick and see what is occurring on the other side of the wall of consciousness. And THEIR discoveries may then intrigue other focuses still. And so then you create a kind of psychological chain reaction.
Now, each focus would only deal with those issues as it is permissible within their own belief structures. It would definitely not impinge upon their own sense of well-being beyond what they allow. Do you follow?
(Yes)
And the same goes with you. You only do what you desire to do at those levels. No one, no thing, no other focus, can impose upon you anything you do not wish to explore. Then it is not an imposition, but a direction you follow.
KATHERINE: I find I love to explore all that stuff. I want to take those bricks out and peek into the other side. I’m happy with it, but I find that people, you know, the so-called establishment or whatever, people who are “normal”. They just seem to have this unified attitude.
KRIS: It works for them and in some respects. It may also reflect some of your own attitude.
KATHERINE: Well….I don’t know….
KRIS: You do create your reality.
KATHERINE: Uh-oh…
(Gales of laughter)
KATHERINE: Yeah, but why are they so hell-bent on….you know, I find people are negative…
ELLEN: You might not notice their negativity if you weren’t reflecting it, if you weren’t mirroring it.
KATHERINE: I’m sure they must be reflecting parts of my own make-up, but…I’m talking more, let’s say, immediate family…I have four kids, two of them are adults — well, all four are almost adults — you know parents, EVERYBODY looks at me like I’m some kind of a kook! And they all gang up on me and they’re like a brick wall. I don’t want to go against that brick wall! I just want to have fun! Leave me alone, you know? (Laughs) So, I guess we are having fun, so it doesn’t matter.
KRIS: It is part of the contrast that you create for your lovely self. It perhaps even motivates you into exploring your own eccentric model.
KATHERINE: It does!
KRIS: And if you observe your resistances, you will make insightful discoveries about the beliefs that you hold concerning yourself.
KATHERINE: Observe my resistances?
KRIS: Indeed.
ELLEN: You can always be unique if everybody else is different from you, or in opposition to you. In that way you can be unique.
KRIS: There is nothing wrong with exploring your own uniqueness. They are exploring their own in their own fashion.
KATHERINE: Will they ever reach a point where they’ll lighten up a little bit?
(Group chuckles)
KRIS: Perhaps a more valid question would be “Will you?”
KATHERINE: (Laughing) I don’t know!
MYRNA: Kris, without belaboring it, the whole idea of removing bricks; I resonate with this. Is there a relationship between what you just said and a sense I have of many lives of isolation. Is the Church involved and have I resisted those rules? Is that part of what I’m working on?
KRIS: Perhaps this can be a pleasant opportunity to expand upon the subject. Now…speaking on the topic of resistances….if as Essence, you would desire to explore that venue, and as a focus personality it meets with your own unique intent, then you would literally connect to that thread of exploration and varieties of focuses, in so many words, would be instantaneously created to explore as many angles of the subject matter as possible in order to do a more complete research and evaluation. Do you follow so far?
MYRNA: I think so.
KRIS: Thus, as a result, you might perceive that there are many lives who seem to be caught up in the system, whilst in truth, those multiple focuses create the situations necessary to explore the desired ideas. So though we do describe this lifetime, that lifetime, do understand that you create it.
You do not only create the caboose, but you create the engine, the sleeping cars, the coal car. You create the train conductor, you create the tracks, you create the countryside, the hills, the cities, the suburbs through which the tracks and the train travel. You create the passengers, the train stations, the entire complex of the locomotive, the entire kit and caboodle. Does that make some sense to you?
MYRNA: Yeah, now I have less resistance in this moment in hearing that than I have in the past!
KATHERINE: You’re exploring all those angles of isolation. Why?
KRIS: Now, if you can explore the idea of isolation in its very many rich facets, there is the implication that one is not isolated in order to explore isolation. Does that make some sense to you?
MYRNA: Yes. (Pause) All right, ready for another theme! (Laughs)
KATHERINE: (Jokingly) You’re never alone! You may be isolated, but you’re never alone!
(Group laughter)
KRIS: It is an interesting concept, when for instance, you may have a room full of twenty, forty, one hundred, four hundred, four thousand people, who gather together to express their journey of isolation. (Group chuckling) ‘Nuff said!
MARK: Zing! (Chuckling)
KRIS: Now what is the time?
MARK: 9:30.
KRIS: Indeed, any other questions?
ELLEN: John, you’ve been terribly silent this evening.
KRIS: He is not isolated!
(Laughter)
JOHN: I’ve just been pondering. Since we have the opening maybe I’ll jump in, Kris, if I may, just before you depart for parts unknown…..I tried the reconnect the NODI or to bypass the resistance exercise and something struck me as I was playing with that. Earlier in your discussions about how to deal with issues, you have stressed, with the Triple ‘A’ for instance, the importance of understanding objectively what the blockage was and the addressing it, accepting it…
MYRNA: Acknowledging.
JOHN: Thank you. Now, this business of rewiring the NODI seems a tiny bit more of a symptomatic approach that doesn’t focus quite so much on. Now you did say be aware of images that come up as you do this around the kind of resistance there might be, but it seemed to be more about, you know, re-route the thing and you won’t get the headache.
MARK: Quick fix.
JOHN: Exactly.
KRIS: And as you already have learned from us, we are far trickier than that!
(Laughter)
We would definitely not let you get away with anything. So when we emphasized “PAY ATTENTION TO THE IMAGERY”, we would have to qualify that with: “Triple ‘A’ it.”
JOHN: Ah, okay. Okay, I get ya. So it’s a companion.
KRIS: Indeed.
JOHN: Right. All right, okay. Thank you.
KRIS: Just to make certain that all of your i’s are dotted and t’s are crossed.
JOHN: Right, because otherwise the headache’s going to come back.
KRIS: If the cause is not addressed, it will.
MARK: I think if we keep rewiring the fuse box, it eventually is going to go poof! If we don’t deal with the electrical problem at hand.
(Group laughter)
KRIS: But it can be an effective method to bring about a resolution to an issue whilst you take the time to Triple ‘A’ it.
JOHN: Right, because it’s hard to Triple ‘A’ when you’ve got a terrible headache!
KRIS: Indeed, there are individuals as well who may not entertain the capacity to do that kind of work, so the NODI exercises will also be effective to a certain degree until they recognize that there is something much deeper at work here. But it will give you an advantage, and as we also offered, it can be utilized with others, even at a distance.
JOHN: Right, and again, you mentioned in that scenario that as you become aware of the resistance when you’re rewiring their NODI for them, that you draw that to their attention.
KRIS: Indeed.
JOHN: Okay, thank you.
KRIS: Indeed then my NODI lovely friends, we will leave you to your wonderful selves. We thank you for your consideration.
ALL: Thank you, Kris.
MARK: 9:34.
(Session Ends)
Past Life Dynamics Workshop
June 24, 2006
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Ellen Gilbert (Kwaa’Ji)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on June 24, 2006
Roll Call: Serge (Joseph), Mark (Philip), John (Sohars), Myrna (Shara-Leene), Ellen (Kwaa’Ji), Cathy (Segova), Katherine (Colombia), and Vera (Beth)
(10:30 AM)
KRIS: Now, we trust that you are all comfortable. And to make doubly certain you know who is speaking: We thank you for your consideration.
[There are greetings offered and also some giggling from Cathy and I who had flown in from Philadelphia together the day before. We'd been privileged to share a walk in the park with Mark and Serge and Brahm in the evening. Brahm clued us in on how to tell when either he or Kris is speaking: Kris always offers the same opening line [as above], while Brahm joked that he likes to be much more “flowery.”]
ELLEN: (Mock astonishment) This must be Kris!
CATHY: Gotta be Kris!
KRIS: And to make certain you are aware of our appreciation, we welcome (turning to each of us as he expresses our Essence names): Segova, Kwaa’Ji, Shara-Leene, Sohars, Philip, and (turning towards Vera, who is a new participant) Beth.
[NOTE: a short time later we were joined by Katherine, who arrived a bit late.]
ELLEN: (To Vera) Beth. You have an Essence name.
VERA: (Looking expectantly towards Kris for an explanation)
KRIS: In so many words, it is an intonation, a name that may represent the Source of your Being. Beth, short for Beethoven. In Ludwig von Beethoven’s lifetime, you had associations and you were very enamored by the music produced by the individual. And even today, were you to listen DEEPLY to some of the musical master’s works, you would find a deeper resonance with the music. Keep that in mind when you do search out and listen to Beethoven’s music. Do you understand?
VERA: (Nodding)
KRIS: Indeed. (Turning back towards the group) Now the topic for today has been named “Past Lives Dynamics” and we wish to explore eventually beyond some of the regular understandings of past lives and perhaps share with you insights into the dynamics of your own expressions. Now, some of you have heard over the course of your lifetime that you may have had other lives, past lives and this opens up a proverbial can of philosophical worms because it has implications, meaning that there is now the entertaining of the possibility that this one lifetime may not be your unique experience with physicality. There may be other lives, experiences, moments, insights at play here. Does that make sense?
(Yes)
And we wish to also mention that as such, most people consider that they have had past lives, but it could as easily be said that those past lives have a future life somewhere else in time and space. And quite possibly, if you have so-called past lives, there is the inherent possibility that there MUST somewhere be future lives to whom you are the past life. And we believe this is essential to keep in mind as it opens up even more venues of possibilities.
There are certainly traditional understandings that come from the Eastern philosophies, tied in with the notions of Karma. And this is a very well thought out system for what is at hand, meaning that this philosophical religious system, set up in traditional views about Karma and reincarnation, is meant to stimulate the individual towards working with the dogmas of the philosophies and religions implied, especially with the dispensations available through the priestly classes to encourage you to support them, therefore finding some ways to alleviate what is often considered offensive things of one kind or another, make it easier for the individual to return to the state of dependence within those belief systems.
And do keep in mind it is strictly between and within those specific belief systems, and there may be tie-ins with other religions and philosophies and there may be evolutions and transformations of those thoughts in other cultures that are meant to encourage the individual to consider the actions before they apply the actions to physical expressions. This entire system, as it is traditionally utilized is an interpretation of the actual dynamics involved and those systems work very well within their own isolations.
There are even a variety of thoughts within the religious belief systems, often found in the Indian subcontinent. The Tibetans had their variations, even the Orientals and many cultures have their own variations. Even the ancient Christians, before their dogmas were instilled, also had their variations, something which is forgotten by the literal scholarly studies. But overall, the main premise is that the notions of past lives as is commonly distributed are interpretations of the larger concepts involved. And they too, stimulate and cause the individual to redefine some of their notions of lives, of life, of THEIR life, and the interactions of time and space. It is important to understand and appreciate some of those preliminary stages of understanding. Are there any questions at this point? Please feel free.
CATHY: Kris in terms of, let’s say in the overall cultures on planet Earth now, in this focus that we call 21st century, do more, or like all of them, have some take or discipline like Karma? You know, what would you call it? Cause and effect.
KRIS: In their understandings, yes.
CATHY: So in one way or another, everybody is sort of into that kind of wave operating…
KRIS: In many respects. Even some of what you would determine to be ancient aboriginal cultures involved in the recognition of ancestries, often popularly called “ancestor worship,” as a means to try and understand the progression and the specific eternity of individuality. So it is still a means to understand the process.
CATHY: It’s definitely a means that works like a tool.
KRIS: Indeed and it has become accepted in many such cultures. There are and will continue to be evolutions of those concepts even as you may understand them today. These present understandings may give you a wider perspective and perhaps in the near future you will receive even wider perspectives. Does that answer your question?
CATHY: It does, yes. I’ve been sort of like playing with the idea, based on the old Seth material too, when he talked about what Karma is and what it isn’t [and] that it’s not a crime and punishment situation at all.
KRIS: Indeed, that is best left to television writers.
CATHY: Right.
MYRNA: Cathy what was the rest of your statement? Karma is not crime and punishment. It’s best left to?
CATHY: Learning! It’s set up as a learning process like commitments. Seth explains that we make contracts, commitments and appointments before we commit to a focus incarnation to fulfill our goals of learning.
KRIS: Indeed you do. As you create the physical universe, you also map out general goals or directions. You assign to yourselves a specific process. Some may define it as “destiny,” however that is far too narrow a term, though there is a kind of pre-destination in a way, but not so that you have no more choices left, but to give you the maximum amount of choices possible. So when you create physical reality, you see it with the potential to experience it. You are not confined to the regular concepts of time and space.
You ALL PLAY with time and space, historical periods and so on, as children arrange and re-arrange their alphabet blocks to make words, some of which only make sense to the child, some of which ALSO make sense to the adults and some of which may be unrecognizable to either. You have the freedom and the liberty to play and re-arrange the manner of your experiences throughout time and space as befits your own specific goals. There are no targeted rules that say “You MUST have your 1845 experience BEFORE you have your 1945 experience OR your 2210 experience.” You are not confined to those kinds of limitations, but once you express focuses within specific time ranges then you abide by the rules, so to speak, that govern that historical timeframe.
Fortunately for each and every one of you, you are not and never will be, cut off from the matrix of your own expressions, that central governing body, the government of your Being, your psyches [and] your Sources. THROUGH that Source, you can extrapolate meaning and value fulfillment from all of the various lives, whether 2210 comes before or after 1845. It is not confined to those kinds of categories of time. Does that make some sense?
CATHY: Oh, it makes perfect sense.
KRIS: Indeed. (Turning to Vera) Now, how are you understanding this?
VERA: (Partially inaudible, but Vera says that it is new to her in many respects)
KRIS: Indeed. We are aware of your introductions and WANTING to explore more on this topic, and we did mention firstly that you are not confined to a systematic experience in sequential orders, though you may have, as we briefly hinted at, some experiences with the musical master Beethoven, and it may appear to be in the past, from this time perspective, to the greater Source of your Being, it is not necessarily viewed as being a past life, but merely a display of fulfillment.
Consider, for all of you, that you go shopping in a beautiful jewelry store and all of the jewels are displayed for you to see. From your perspective, it does not matter whether a diamond was cut yesterday, last year, two thousand years ago. It exists in YOUR present experience. You may find that it is indeed a dazzling jewel, perhaps even much desired by you. And your interaction with that diamond today in this moment is meaningful irregardless of when the diamond was cut. Does that make sense to you?
(Yes)
It is your experiences in this moment that have value to you. You may also be interested in the history of the diamond, where it was found, perhaps who cut it, did it belong to royalty? Was it part of a queen’s crown or her royal scepter? Was it stolen? Were lives lost, were the pirates found, was the treasure discovered, and so on and so forth. And this may add additional value to YOUR experience with the diamond now. Does that also make sense?
(Yes)
From our perspective, your various lives can be compared each to a precious jewel and your interactions with it in the now give it additional value to you, but it does not invalidate the jewel in the store, when and where it was cut, nor whether you choose to buy it or not. It still IS. And your own other lives are still absolutely valuable in and of themselves, whether you recognize them or not. They still add to your experience. Just as whether you BUY the diamond or not, it still ADDS to your experience. It might have brightened your day and made you feel like royalty indeed, simply to hold it for a moment, of course under the careful eye of the jeweler.
(Laughter)
MYRNA: May I, Kris?
KRIS: Indeed!
MYRNA: Would it be possible to find…in looking at past lives….is it possible for me to understand some of the stuff I keep presenting to myself that causes me angst by looking at past and future lives?
KRIS: There are often connections in this way, though we would caution assigning blame and judgment to a situation you would deem as originating in one of those other lives as if it was the fault of that other individual. Do you follow?
MYRNA: No, I hadn’t even gone there. I haven’t even looked into it. (Laughing) I wouldn’t assign…I’m talking about understanding rather than blaming.
KRIS: Indeed. We are mentioning it because in the traditional views, often in the New Age communities particularly, there is a great demand for wanting to resolve specific issues in one’s life and the challenges are often attributed and blamed on the circumstance that exists in a so-called past life. And in many respects, though there might appear to be a certain level of logical understanding, such as, “Of course! My problems are caused by my past life!” There is an inherent danger in that kind of understanding and assignment of judgment.
MYRNA: For me, what I have learned in these sessions is that I move units of consciousness around. And I move units of consciousness around obviously to understand belief systems, to understand myself more, to understand value creation, and whatever, so for me, understanding past lives is another piece of that puzzle that I may be continuing to present to myself to understand what eludes me.
KRIS: Indeed. And we believe this is a very worthwhile presentation because there can be what is referred to as “bleed-throughs”: experiences that are not only valid for the other life, but also for your own. There can be deep resonances, similarities on a thread that perhaps many lives are working on.
So there may be many focuses, many Expressions of Essence that have a need to work through issues of religion, so many focuses may undertake the task of exploring the dynamics involved in religious systems, doctrines and dogmas, and trying to understand the issues established as religions can create the idea that the Divine is a THING that exists outside of Self, when the deepest aspects of your Being ALL UNDERSTAND that the Divine is not firstly a “thing,” nor is it considered to be outside. So there is an apparent dichotomy that needs exploration and perhaps even resolving. So it can present a most fascinating thread of experiences.
MYNA: Are we going to explore that today?
KRIS: We believe that this will definitely be a possibility.
(Laughter)
MARK: (Humorously) Fifty percent chance of clouds….
CATHY: A definite maybe!
KRIS: Perhaps the statement itself appears somewhat noncommittal. However, if you think about the manner in which we just expressed this, you may also reflect that, though many of you have an interest in the topic, there is also a part of you that appears noncommittal to the core issue, for the simple fact that all of you to one degree or another at this point in time still maintain a desire to explore the idea that you create your own realities, but that perhaps there can be allowances for the occasional — (Kris throws up his hands) “I have nothing to do with that!” (Group laughter) “Perhaps this one time, someone else can take responsibility for what is occurring!”
MYRNA: Not if you’ve been sitting in Kris sessions…sorry! (Laughing)
JOHN: That raises an interesting question, Kris, if I may just pop in.
KRIS: Indeed.
JOHN: My understanding is that we do not create the realities of our other lives. In other words, we have no responsibility for the realities that are being created by our other focal aspects.
KRIS: Not you as an ego construction.
JOHN: Right.
KRIS: But as a Self you all share in the responsibilities because it is a joint journey. Even though it appears as if these other lives are separated, sometimes by great amounts of time and space, that is merely an illusion in the classic sense of the word. Since all of you, all of your lives, exist — not in a vacuum – BUT indeed a powerful moment, in the present moment where you have all of your power, all of these other lives exist in that experience.
And they DO benefit from YOUR understandings, as you do with theirs. Consider this for one moment: You are very well aware that your bodies are composed of different cells, millions and millions of cells, correct?
JOHN: Yes.
KRIS: And cells take on different roles. Some become liver cells, some become brain cells, some become the cells that compose the epidermis, and so on and so forth. Overall they are all cells, but they are all assigned various functions, correct?
(Yes)
And they all function together as a unit. You do not have a sudden strike by liver cells that decide they are not going to work, or if they do it will be (inaudible) (Group laughter). All of the cells in your body function together to create wholeness, independently of what you think of your own body at times, which is fortunate for you! And you could even consider that each cell in your body, regardless of its assigned function, is complete in itself. From that one cell an entirely different body can be created, as your sciences of genetics can now demonstrate, correct?
(Yes)
So it can be said that each cell in your own body is an individual in its own right. It performs its functions. It expresses its experiences in conjunction with the overall performances of the body. And it can be also said that Essence, your Source, the matrix of your Being, is the body; and each of your other lives — whether cast in the notion of times past, times present, times future — are the cells of its body. And they each perform their experiences, extrapolate their wisdom and knowledge, and as a whole the body thrives, the Essence thrives, with or without all of these various expressions.
Just as you do not necessarily concern yourselves with the thousands of cells that die every day, fall off your bodies, only to be regenerated on a daily basis, literally you grow and have your being from the inside out. The old cells are pushed over the cliff, so to speak, so that new ones can maintain the apparent mass of your body until that time that you decide to end that process. Does this make some sense to you?
(Yes)
CATHY: Kris, when I went to that Tibetan Buddhist master a few weeks ago and he was teaching us the Qi Gong energy practices and so forth, one of the things he had us do was stand in the center of the spiral universe that we’re a part of, and he essentially was saying that every cell in your body is in a resonance with every star in the universe. In other words, as above, so below; as outside, so inside, that we’re all sort of just a reflection of everything in the universe — our physical universe, stars and planets, suns.
So our little cells, he had us imagine our little cells actually as being little stars and so forth, and the energy we got from it was we had gotten to the ahhh wave of the universe, the rhythm of the universe, by doing these very simple practices and got us very focused into that total connectedness that you’re talking about, but it was like the star-bursting regions of the galaxy were sort of like your little cell star-bursting regions of your own little physical universe body wise.
And it was sort of like this back and forth, very gently, but extremely powerful experience that this was for us of creation and re-creation and on and on and on into infinity and beyond that we can even define as this universe and all that stuff….and it was like incomprehensible, and at the same time, completely understandable, because it was at an experiential level of a kind of connecting up. Is that sort of… is that…
KRIS: We only suggest that not only are you a reflection of the universe, but the universe itself is simultaneously a reflection of you. And even beyond that. Both the universe and you as reflections of each other are themselves a reflection of your Source.
CATHY: That’s both individual and — and that’s the way that we create, as Seth would say, “You create your universe.” We create worlds, so our Earth life experience is in the process of being created…a creative dance, sort of, is that it? And we each individually contribute to it?
MYRNA: Cathy if I may?
CATHY: Yes.
MYRNA: I think what I’m hearing — and let me check, as this is something that is really powerful — is somehow I’m hearing, as it was expressed by you earlier, is only part of it. In other words, that makes it external. We are a part of something else, but what Kris –
CATHY: I didn’t mean it to sound that way. It’s completely coherent, there’s no out and in. It’s unifying experience: no out, no in. Just as is.
MYRNA: Right.
MARK: Similar to the Brahm Walk last night, where the trees have all different aspects of you….
KATHERINE: If you look at things under a microscope, they all look strikingly the same as from telescopes. Like the outer universe, the patterns and things — they’re almost identical to the inner so-called universe and –
CATHY: Yeah.
KATHERINE: As above, so below.
KRIS: Indeed, we are understanding.
CATHY: As within.
KRIS: As both understandings themselves are again reflections of something far greater yet. And to YOUR various other lives, whether you cast them in the past or an alternate present, or in future times, each of them may be presently engaged in some very deep dreams where they are aware of a number of individuals discussing this very topic, assisting each of them in expanding their understanding. How this will eventually come out in their life experiences may be something entirely different, but at those deep dream levels, we could say this day, this discussion, is being listened in on.
(Laughter)
KATHERINE: Inquiring minds want to know!
KRIS: Indeed, the ultimate reality television. And we did want to establish an understanding that regardless of the philosophies, everything occurs in the present moment, the experiences of the Now. Because, for instance, as you all come together here to access a mutual understanding, you simultaneously create a number of other living encounters in different circumstances, different times and space to explore the various relationships each of you has now in this moment, as a small group.
Many, many metaphysical, esoteric, New Age groups always have to ask — otherwise it would not be a small metaphysical, New Age group! — Always have to ask, “Kris, have we all been in Atlantis before? Have we all been here before? Have we all been there before?” And though we find it very endearing, they are not that far off the mark.
Though you do not need to necessarily all have been in Atlantis before as a sort of validation, but when groups such as yourselves, even individuals who are strangers to each other at the apparent physical level, the very idea of coming together generates a great variety of other lives, literally instantaneously to organize the dynamics of your personalities so that you have then, a broad, common base to share the experience of the moment.
And further to this, each life that is created generates its own various offshoots and experiences with each of you. Therefore, since there are eight of you, there would be eight times eight times eight times eight times eight times eight times eight various explosions of experiences generated from this encounter.
(Laughter)
But you do understand the principle?
(Yes)
JOHN: Just to confirm what you just said there, Kris — and I’m going to paraphrase — the eight people here, part and parcel with us coming together for this meeting here in this time and space, we also spin off in this Now eight times eight times eight times eight…all of the various relationships that will enrich this experience.
KRIS: Indeed.
JOHN: And those could be whole lifetimes?
KRIS: As you would understand it. Though, to the psyche or the unconscious, or however you wish to put it, the notions of time are truly irrelevant and in some other areas perhaps the experiences would appear as flashes. But still, as there are eight of you, each individual creates eight various different experiences.
KATHERINE: Are those like our counterparts, or other portions of ourselves?
KRIS: You may define them as counterparts. All in all, however, they each have an enormous amount of validity and value to you. So you create all of the different varieties to establish a good psychological reference to each other. And you may have begun doing this in deep dream states. As you are aware, what to you may appear to be a dream experience that lasted merely minutes, that notion of mere minutes is your interpretation. You caught a quick glimpse into the depth of another experience which to it may last a lifetime, regardless of your notion of having lasted only a minute. Does that make sense?
JOHN: (Humorously) It doesn’t make any sense at all!
(Riotous laughter)
KRIS: It is not a specific logical thing.
JOHN: But I grok it. I grok it.
KATHERINE: But we know all these things are just inherent in that moment, you know what I mean? We know it already.
CATHY: It’s like being in the mainframe of the computer. We are all mainframes in any point, including all of our experiences, focuses, whatever. It’s there whether we’re cognizant of it, that’s what we’re learning to do, to access our multi-dimensional reality.
KRIS: And fortunately for you, no one is called “Hal.” [The computer from "2001- A Space Odyssey."]
(Laughter)
Perhaps a small meditation can assist. You may need to close your window as it is sometimes noisier than you would like. (Mark gets up and closes the window behind Kris, shutting off a lot of the traffic noise in the street below.) Now then, what we suggest is that you find a comfortable sitting position.
Allow yourselves to breathe deeply….and as you continue the deep breathing, allow relaxation….literally relax the eyes, whether you keep them open or closed is irrelevant…relax the shoulders, the neck, the back…the hips, the legs, the arms, the hands, the feet…and stay focused upon the sound of our voice….and pretend for one brief time that….as you continue to be focused upon the sound of our voice….you are able to enter a large, beautifully adorned and decorated theatre….in this theatre there may be as many seats, or as little number of seats as you wish.
And look towards the big screen….and allow the lights in the theatre to dim as a movie is projected onto the screen….as the screen becomes lit up, you see the title of the movie: “One Of My Other Lives”…..and what you feel is important is what will be projected onto the screen…..reach for a historical timeframe….whether in the distant past, in the recent past….and let those feelings and impressions create the images that will appear before you on the screen…..(long pause)…and once the images begin to flow, observe….let the film have a life of its own…and pay attention to what is displayed on the screen.
Take notice of the apparent historical timeframe. Are you male or female? Child, teenager, adult, elderly….what role do you play in your family?……What does the home look like?…..And as you begin to focus upon some small details, you may discover that the movie screen has many magical properties…one of which is that you can step into the main character in this movie….you may acquire a feel for the individual….what kind of thoughts does he or she entertain?….how does he or she feel about certain things, or events, or circumstances?…..How does their mind and feelings work for them?…..What does he or she consider important in their life?….Are there religious or political thoughts and affiliations?
And as you continue to share with this individual, you may even be able to acquire a grasp of their worldview….try and understand their unique challenges and experiences…..(long pause)…..And recognize that just as you may gain from their creations and interactions, it is definite that YOUR observing presence in their consciousness will likely also be an imprint that maybe enables them to think about ideas and concepts they may never have noticed before….
And gradually step out of the character and the screen….return to the seat you may have had in the theatre….take a walk out of the theatre again….and take a deep breath….on the count of three you will open your eyes…one, you may wiggle your fingers and toes…take another deep breath and exhale…two, move your wrists, arms, legs…and three, you are fully focused again in this room, your eyes opened, and you are relaxed.
And take a small break.
MARK: 11:30.
(Kris returns at 11:48 AM.)
KRIS: Now then, perhaps you would all like to share your meditation experience. Who would like to go first?
JOHN: I’m happy to do that, Kris. When the movie started, I was on a train station and you could tell it was one of those wonderful old-fashioned train stations, a Victorian sort of British train station, there were people there, and I wasn’t exactly sure who I was, but I kept focusing in later on a woman sitting by a little stove, having a cup of tea. And I began to think, “Okay, that’s probably me.” Then I drifted into the woman, and I became her and I got a feeling for her worldview. She was very interested in a certain kind of Christianity, no interest in politics, fascinated and amazed by children and family, that was the deal, and extremely clean, meticulously clean, and….
KRIS: Did she have as many knick-knacks as you?
(Group cracks up)
JOHN: Yeah, the place was built up in that way, although I wasn’t focusing on that. I began to understand a little bit about her life. She was an older woman but still active. Her feet hurt chronically, but she loved the simple pleasures of having a cup of tea and going off to bed and thinking happy thoughts about the young master who was….she was a nanny….and towards the end, where we were getting ready to say goodbye, and I realized that my being there…I would leave something with her and I would take something with me….what I understood was the great passion and joy I have for sitting and having a quiet cup of tea. For me, in this focus, that is really a precious moment. And I realized, with tears in my eyes, that this was part of the exchange.
KRIS: Indeed. This individual is extremely giving and thrives upon providing kindness. That is an important experience for her and for many others in that thread of focuses.
JOHN: And family was very important to her.
MYRNA: Kindness.
JOHN: Kindness.
MYRNA: That’s a thread.
JOHN: Uh-huh.
KRIS: She does not have children of her own. She has raised many other people’s children which to her is more than fulfillment. As to the religious aspect, you are also correct. She believes strongly that though she contemplates the religions of her time, she has had experiences that are not explainable by the religious philosophies she grew up with, but she has participated in the good old-fashioned séances.
JOHN: Ah!
(Exclamations and chuckling)
MYRNA: Another thread.
KRIS: Indeed.
JOHN: Wonderful! Well, it was great to make her acquaintance — or re-acquaintance.
KRIS: In many respects, though you may not specifically remember any of this, it is YOUR work and connections with Sohars that, in some small way, triggered her curiosity and interest in the classical British spiritualism movement.
JOHN: Ah!
KRIS: She has experiences in dreams and thoughts and moments in waking life that could not be explained in the traditional theologies but she found some meaning with spiritualist teachings and these are being influenced from your own work.
JOHN: That’s thrilling to know. Thank you.
KRIS: So you see in some small ways, it is not always influences from the so-called past life that exert an influence into the present life, but there are interchangeabilities. Would anyone else care to share?
CATHY: Okay, I’ll go. I found myself seeing myself about 18, a man in Spain, around the 15th or 16th century, and I sort of like merged in with him and got a peg of what his life is about. He was a painter, and he was painting, but that wasn’t like on the surface, it wasn’t just about painting at all, he was much more of a political activist during the time of the Inquisition. The impression I got was that the paintings that he was well known for — what do you call it — commissioned for — but paintings were used during that time with many people as a means of communication because it would camouflage the information that they would put underneath the oils.
So they had information circulating around in a time when it was considered forbidden and you would likely be tortured or killed for it. That maintained a certain standard….an ancient tradition of secret doctrines and the like. I got the impression of North Africa and from Asia Minor. I asked him, felt around and said, “Is your name Segova by any chance?” (Laughter) just in case this was, you know….but it wasn’t. It was more like Miguel or something like that. But it was like, yes, a definite connection there and I feel that the entity was Segova.
And on the surface, people would think he was an artist, and he was Jewish, but he was sort of a closeted Jew, which everybody was, they could get burned for it and so forth…so that time would have been right. On the surface everyone was Catholic, so he kept it very hidden. He also kept his ancient tradition of knowledge and wisdom and all that stuff going on too, as did a group of other people, but it wasn’t just a religious thing, it was literally a political action that was running counter to what was going on in that area of the world at that time in some of the regions. So that’s what I got and it felt really great.
(Laughter and some comments, mostly inaudible.)
Was that an active life, an active focus, Kris?
KRIS: We believe that you do not need to ask that.
CATHY: Yeah, I know, but it sort of follows me throughout life, that we really are –
KRIS: Now, this individual and the details you acquired about the coding inside the paintings is accurate. Many artists for many ages have done this. Specific symbols painted in specific areas of the paintings have significances. Many great artists were members of secret societies and they would communicate information. Now there is no need to dramatize it in the same sense of “The Da Vinci Code,” as many symbols in paintings would be completely irrelevant to people outside of their societies. Very often as well, there were details actually worked into the canvas before it was painted.
CATHY: That was what this indicates — sort of like the paint covering up the actual messages.
KRIS: Indeed…..This individual is very creative….very….almost forceful of will and temperament, but at the same time also wishes to be known as an intelligent and kind, learned man. He does have a passion, a weakness if you desire, for pretty young women.
(Group chuckles)
CATHY: So he has a good time.
KRIS: Indeed.
CATHY: Good! Yeah, it didn’t feel like he was a family man, per se.
KRIS: Not his style. His family is his art. And as you mentioned it was even very popular in those days of the Inquisition to actually belong to two faiths, even more if need be. To the outside world, and to the Inquisition, you were Catholic. Behind closed doors, with only members of your family and sometimes others, you were Jewish.
There have been many waves of persecution of Jews throughout Europe and some of those were also carried out by the Inquisitors. Many people also had homes with split roofs where they could study the works and the writings of their own original religion. There was always great and imminent danger of discovery. One had to be doubly careful as to what was left out in the house. So it was indeed precarious times, times of treachery, in those days. This man was very clever. What else did you pick up?
CATHY: I pretty much focused on his art perspective and the paintings that he was doing and the underlying function of the paintings being a communication of other information. That’s what I was getting in sort of a multi-tiered way. And this man’s personality was, as you say, very powerful. And he was a real playboy. Very strong, world-wise and had a very deep inner connection with some very ancient traditional stuff that I really couldn’t identify….some standard Jewish whatever, but it was towards North Africa, Asia Minor and –
KRIS: It was tied in with alchemy.
CATHY: Yes, definitely. Yeah, that’s right. If I had to give it a title, it wouldn’t be artist, it would be alchemist.
KRIS: Did you also get a feel, or acquire a feel, for the passion and the love OF creating his art?
CATHY: Yes, oh yeah, he was a total [fiery] Spanish soul.
KRIS: Indeed, he was very passionate and almost consumed by the creative force when it struck.
CATHY: Right, yeah. It was always like a very present force. It was like being inside a….driven artist.
KRIS: Indeed. Now, in your present life, in retrospect with this particular insight, you might be able to recognize some of your strong drives and passions.
CATHY: Yeah, well I’m involved with the Bon children’s art book now –
KRIS: And especially the drive simply for the expression of love.
CATHY: Absolutely. This will be very helpful for the project.
KRIS: Indeed. Who else would like to share?
KATHERINE: I would. I…when the dream first appeared, I was getting three very different things all happening at once. One involved being on a Nordic ship, cold water, falling or being pushed or something in the ocean and drowning. It was painless, really, but another one had to do with a Victorian woman dressed in velvet, all in velvet, being again on a ship, at my husband’s bedside. He was dying of consumption and the third one was to do with being in — I don’t know if it was Salem or the witch trials, or Quakers, something like that — being dressed up and poised in court proceedings and I decided to focus on that one the most, when I was trying to choose.
In that one, the thing that really struck me about that is that even though I was someone who was just standing there stone-faced, the accused who were on trial and whose lives were in danger, were just like me. Like I knew that the greater part of myself was just like them, but I had this face on for everyone else in the courtroom.
And at one point there was this little interplay where people were sort of looking over, and someone looked at me and I just sort of looked over into space like….aloof about it and it really caused a lot of bad things to happen to those poor accused after that. Like I was sort of realizing that, even though I was sort of a rather insignificant person in the courtroom, just the attitude and just the demeanor and just the way I was going along with everything….it wasn’t a very nice portion of myself.
MARK: Do you think you were the accuser?
KATHERINE: No, I don’t. I think I was just one of a group, like…there was this group mentality…here we’d brought the accused, they were on trial, their life was at stake….we were going to torture them…meanwhile every one of us were witches back at home, but in this courtroom we were all sort of…or I was pretending like…”I’m not,” you know….I was distancing myself from them, and I wasn’t like a judge or a lawyer, or anyone who had any real influence into the thing, but I realized that just that one looking away caused like….it had a lot of influence over the whole thing, just that attitude and going along with it all.
KRIS: Interesting interpretation. And in some respects, very accurate, though we would suggest that instead of being accused of witchery, you were a Protestant, being burned by Catholics in England, not dissimilar to the way the Inquisition burnt women as witches simply for the fact that your beliefs were different.
KATHERINE: But I wasn’t the accused person.
KRIS: There was an accused there that was also you…you situated yourself in observance because those memories are extremely intense. The accused to be burned were often not allowed to die so that they could suffer the flesh being burnt and fall off their bodies. In another life, shortly after this one, you experienced something similar, but at the other end of the scale. A Catholic tortured and killed by Protestants. Similar coin, different currency. Both of those experiences left a deep impression in your psyche concerning orthodox religious bodies, and though you are very spiritual, your interest in organized religions is minimal.
KATHERINE: That’s right.
KRIS: And that stems from those two experiences. As experiments they were indeed very potent and powerful. They also altered your affiliation with beliefs in religious organizations. This had a profound impact – traumatic, but profound — in the whole of your Being.
KATHERINE: Yes.
KRIS: Now you still have some focuses that are compensating and are themselves involved in religious organizations but in a very secluded and reclusive manner and these are the balancing elements for beliefs in religious systems. You can still acquire a great deal of strength because those two individuals who perished were very proud of their — not beliefs — but their own accomplishments that very particularly choose to not hold anything against their aggressors. So even though it may appear that in those lifetimes you were the recipient of monstrous atrocity, you held nothing against those who perpetrated the atrocities. Do you understand?
KATHERINE: Yes, but…maybe at that time, but in this life –
KRIS: That is another issue.
KATHERINE: The way I acted….that was bad of me…to behave that way. So complicit and –
KRIS: Look at their own viewpoints, that even at the height of such suffering, they chose to not hold anything against their aggressors. They would not judge. And that might be something for you to ponder.
KATHERINE: You mean being non-judgmental? Uh-oh, am I a judgmental person?
MYRNA: No, I don’t think he’s saying that. It’s the other way.
KATHERINE: Oh, it’s the other way! Okay, good! (Group laughter) Well, that’s good! People accuse me of that all the time.
MYRNA: Of being NON-judgmental?
KATHERINE: Yeah!
MYRNA: They ACCUSE you of that?
KATHERINE: Yes!
MYRNA: Well, there you go.
ELLEN: They accuse you in the sense of being wishy-washy, you mean?
KATHERINE: Yes! Like, I’m not….you know…
ELLEN: They say, “Make a stand, take a position!” Right?
KATHERINE: Yeah, that’s what they want me to do, and I’m like, “how can I?” It’s their life! I’m not going to crawl in their skin and live it for them. Everything is fine the way it is! (Laughs) Maybe I’m in denial, I don’t know.
KRIS: There are deep lessons indeed to be learned from those perspectives.
KATHERINE: How? What?
KRIS: That is something you may have to ponder.
KATHERINE: Okay.
KRIS: (To Vera) Now, what about YOUR experiences?
VERA: (Inaudible)
KRIS: Indeed, feel free to discuss.
VERA: (inaudible)
KRIS: And what was your impression?
VERA: (Inaudible. I can remember only that Vera had some brief, fleeting impressions of being a grand and very powerful “queen-like” lady in a beautiful dress, European. Vera is a lovely young Russian woman, and English is her second language. She didn’t have the experience or background the rest of us in the room had with metaphysics and channeled materials, but considering those handicaps, she did very well at the workshop, remaining very attentive and alert throughout. Kris made special efforts all afternoon to see that she understood and could follow along.)
KRIS: Repeat the very beginning of this.
MARK: (Prompting) What can you tell us about the woman, the queen? Can you give us more detail? The country….was it perhaps France, Spain, England, Russia?
VERA: I just remember grand lady, in…(She tries to describe the material).
KATHERINE: Velvets?
VERA: (Nods)
MARK: Velvet.
KATHERINE: How did she look? Was she dark-haired?
VERA: (Nods) With white skin. There was no action, I was just observing.
KRIS: Indeed. This is still very new to you. Now the individual that you caught a glimpse of — that you perceived — was indeed surrounded by opulence, but we believe not necessarily a queen as such, BUT a Medici. ALMOST as good as a queen!
(Laughter)
MARK: The Italian Medici family.
MYRNA: Florence. They owned Florence.
JOHN: And Venice?
ELLEN: They were very powerful.
MARK: Very rich, powerful Italian family.
KRIS: Extremely affluent, many of their children married into royalty all over Europe. Merchants of the highest caliber having commerce even into the Americas. Very politically aggressive family as well, that in their own ways were regarded as royalty. Does that make some sense to you?
VERA: Yes.
KRIS: Much political intrigue. A great deal of money, political intrigues, murders, the classic displays of the best soap operas of their time. You may even do a search on the internet of the Medici family and you might feel a deep affiliation for their history. We do suggest you look it up in historical books. You might find indeed that this is an area of interest to you. Do you follow?
VERA: Yes.
KRIS: Even though many of the males in the Medici family appeared to have lots of power, it was mostly the women who were strongest and who often shored up their husband’s tomfooleries.
(Laughter)
Often covered up their affairs, either paid off or killed their husbands’ mistresses and their bastard offspring.
VERA: They were very rich?
KRIS: Very rich. You must understand that the Medicis were one of Europe’s most powerful families. So they had many images to live up to, and if that meant eliminating the competition, then so be it. Read up on their history and you might find it extremely fascinating, that one line of a family could have accomplished and done so much and yet had been embroiled in so many small, and not so small, wars at the same time, which was very common in that period.
This connection that you have is also very helpful to you. It may not appear so to a great degree, but you have an ability to be extremely focused and mindful at the same time. Do you understand what that means? You can be very concentrated on a particular project of interest to you, but you are able to balance this still with love and caring for friends and family. Do you understand?
VERA: I haven’t been concentrating enough?
KRIS: We are saying that you have an enormous ability to concentrate, but not to the exclusion of those that you love around you. You still are able to care for others. You do not push them away because you are interested in a project. So it is a careful balancing act. We believe that also you are able to have a fairly even emotional platform. You may express emotion, but you do not do so at the expense of others. You still respect others, correct? That is a very fine quality. (Pause) Now who would like to share more?
ELLEN: I guess it’s my turn. I tapped into a focus that I’ve touched on before just briefly. I saw myself as a young Native American girl. I think it was early 1800′s around the area of Utah. I saw myself riding horseback. I believe I collected herbs for medicine, I believe I was possibly an apprentice or something….I saw myself in a teepee, just briefly flashed on that, perhaps administering or helping to administer to someone who was ill. That went along okay and then I flashed….and this I had flashed on before when I’d touched on this focus….being in a stockade with my people, I think, rounded up by white cavalry.
And at this point I was almost….I was resisting, resisting…and I remembered Brahm talking about this on the Walk last night, about my resistance. And then I flashed on the escalator yesterday (Laughing and looking over at Cathy) and carrying my bags, so I totally was trying, you know, to get away from it.
And then, the only thing I….I know that somehow my people….I think most of my people were massacred, but I was not. And I have the distinct feeling I was in some relationship with….perhaps one individual, one of the white men individuals, or a family, or something. I wasn’t real clear on it, but I know there was a point where I became….somewhat confused, because I was beginning to see a commonality — maybe I was falling in love, I don’t know if that was part of it or not — but I was reaching understanding and….and appreciation for the commonality among our people, although I was conflicted by the brutality and the possibility of the trouble between our people….and the whole business this past week with Newworldview was continually….I was flashing back on that.
KRIS: (Pause) You were indeed an apprentice. Your grandmother was your teacher. She was also the clan elder, wise woman. You had already a great deal of learning by that time, and because of the respect that other members of the group offered you, and your own value as literally the village shamaness, your life was spared. (Pause) It was not an overly pleasant period of time simply because of many of the challenges of Native groups being forced to evacuate or be killed if they did not.
There is an understanding in almost every native, aboriginal society that even though many were brought near the brink of extinction, there is still the deeply embedded belief that life always comes in complete circles, where their culture will once again be pre-eminent. And their culture may very well, in a potential future, may very well be what saves the remnants of a fractured and war-torn North American society. We said potential, not necessarily what will unfold in YOUR reality.
So your perceptions traveled more than one reality and more than one timeframe. This is why you flickered back and forth into different areas, not knowing quite how to interpret some of the underlying feeling-tones arising from it. And at the same time, you still offered yourself some resistances. That is understandable and there is no reason why you should berate yourself for it in any way, shape, or form. Do you follow?
ELLEN: Yes.
KRIS: There is a deep well of wisdom even within your Essence that may be utilized by other focuses even in other probabilities and as in this one where there is a fractured North American remnants of a culture that will literally require the wisdom of Native aboriginal people who survive, which may change the entire face of North America, reviving both ancient and deeply rooted aboriginal cultures, but with elements of survival and technology. Do you follow?
ELLEN: Yes.
KRIS: And even today you recognize your ability to tap deep into that well of wisdom and bring up what you have need of. So in many ways, it is quite fine to dance with different ideas, correct?
ELLEN: I believe so, yes.
MARK: Next?
ELLEN: (To Mark) I think that’s you.
MARK: Oh, okay. I got a little bit ahead of you, and of course, once I got into this beautiful theatre, I sat down immediately and the play began, and then you made it a movie screen and I tried to do that, and that didn’t work so I thought, “Nah, I’m going to go with the play,” and that was fine, and before you gave us the title, I had already had a production onstage (Laughs), but I found at first it was all my many focuses presenting to me.
There was ancient China, soldiers in front of buildings on horses, there were ceremonial, tribal Indians on horses as well, advancing. There were Africans doing ceremonial dance. So then, once you gave us the title I tried to go back a step and focus on one, but I found a lot of my focuses wanted attention (Laughs), but I settled in for the most part in Africa, and I’ve come across this little boy before, he’s always a very happy individual, always has a smile, I believe his name is Ganji.
But then he grew up, he started to go into his teens and probably into his early twenties and there was a lot of tribal dance, and even though it was sometimes involved around possibly hunting, I find that this individual was very keen on learning, a very joyous individual, very spiritual individual and his intrigue is probably his biggest asset. And when I stepped into that movie or that drama, we touched, we smiled, we knew each other, and I began to dance with him and the tribe in a circle. I believe this individual may, I’m not sure if he is still alive, he may be a tribal elder or shaman. He may have gotten to that and he may not be alive at this time, I’m not sure of the timeframe.
KRIS: (Long pause) Do you have an inkling of the general geographical area?
MARK: Africa, north, probably part of the ice cream cone, not the cone, but the ice cream (Chuckling), upper left. Not Egypt but…maybe even the Savannahs….I can see trees but not forests…grasslands. They’re not wearing a lot in the way of clothing, so it’s a warm climate, barefoot…
KRIS: You are seeing two different focuses. The primary one in this case is the young man. This is further in South Africa. We believe that you perished in the Boer War. The very enthusiastic individual…..for an apparent short life it was impacted with a great deal of experience, and because of the childlike perspective, this has assisted other focuses, though they may sometimes feel overwhelmed with their situations, there will always be a flash of hope, of inspiration that comes their way from that focus. Do you follow?
MARK: Yes, I think that’s why he’s familiar to me — that smiling face and big bright eyes.
KRIS: Now it must also be understood that even though these are all classified under the specifics of a past life as it occurred perhaps several hundreds, several thousands, or merely a few decades ago, these lives are not in any way, shape, or form, vanished. They still exist in the spacious moment, the eternal now. There is no differentiation between past, present, and future in your terms since they all occur in the present. Does that make sense to you?
MARK: Yes, it does. He is very much as aware of me as I am of him.
KRIS: And that is why you may access him. All of these lives have communications, exchanges, whether in the dream states, through inspiration, intuition, you are all very, very well connected, just as the cells in your small toe is undeniably connected to your cells in your earlobe, even though in completely different parts of the body. Does that make some sense?
MARK: Yes.
KRIS: Now, who is left?
MYRNA: I am. I’m aware of two things. One is my stomach — I’m sorry for anyone who’s been around me — I’m not used to this, it’s rumbling like crazy!
ELLEN: (I’m sitting next to Myrna on the sofa) Well, I never heard anything, so you revealed yourself for nothing!
(Laughter)
MYRNA: I’m also worried if I listen –
ELLEN: What you have to do is say (patting my own stomach): “Patience, my pet.”
(Laughter)
MYRNA: Well, I wonder what I’m saying to myself there!
(Laughter)
The other piece is, I listened to all of you and made notes, I understand why we’re all together here (Laughing) because I can hear resonance in terms of some threads of my life in all, particularly here — huge resonance. My life that appeared to me was David Beckham. On the screen came this white….and the World Cup is on right now, and all the British fans are in white….well, maybe that’s something else, doesn’t matter….but, anyway, David Beckham…he’s a world-renowned soccer player.
MARK: (Humorously) You’re hot!
(Group laughter. Beckham is very good-looking.)
MYRNA: What I was aware of, interestingly enough, is that he is a world celebrity, but as I made connection with him, it’s not something he operates under. He’s very happy to walk two dogs, two little Scottish terriers, a grey and a black. I know nothing of dogs. What I was aware of is that he wants to present the world with an ability to be in the delicious present: the dogs, the food he eats, the sidewalks he walks on, the grass, the shrubs in London, are very much a part of him. And that’s what I take away the most, is his ability to be in the present moment.
KRIS: That is indeed a very astute observation on your part. Though he is prosperous, and may like to utilize his prosperity, there is at the same time still what you would call an old-fashioned individual. He is still a down to earth person. Correct?
MYRNA: Yes. As I experienced him, yes.
KRIS: Indeed. In other words he is very well-grounded and not disconnected from human life because of his success. And another thing that you quite likely have already perceived but you may not have brought to your attention is that from his perspective it is perhaps irrelevant whether one is rich and successful, or a simple person, there is still a great deal of joy to be had in life, simply by being yourself. Do you understand?
MYRNA: Oh, deeply.
KRIS: And that is something that you are working on as well.
MYRNA: Yes.
KRIS: Now, what is the time?
MARK: 12:42.
KRIS: Indeed. Then we suggest that you take care of the rumblings in your tummy (Group laughter) and that you enjoy your lunch break, then we will continue this afternoon (turning towards John) working with one of your well-liked subjects: The nodi.
KATHERINE: The nodi?
KRIS: (To all) Perhaps you can explain while you munch and eat.
(Lunch break at 12:42 PM. Return at 2:16 PM)
KRIS: Now before we explore more of the nodi with you, we wish to hold a brief discussion (turning to John) about your dream.
JOHN: My dream?
KRIS: Indeed.
JOHN: Oh, good. Wonderful. The dog dream? (During lunch break John had mentioned a recent and powerful dream that he had put online on the Inner Visions Journal, that up to that point I had not had the chance to read in depth.)
KRIS: Indeed.
JOHN: (Face lighting up in delight) Oh, goodie!
(Laughter)
ELLEN: Would you mind….I didn’t get a chance to read it through on the forum.
JOHN: [You need] a recap?
(Others agree)
KRIS: Summarize.
ELLEN: Yeah.
JOHN: In this dream I had….now it may be good to mention that I used the technique that Kris…no, Brahm gave us, pulling the….ah…
MARK: Was it the Aaronii?
JOHN: It was the creative healing….Brahm…no, Kris…anyway, the idea was that I did an exercise where I pulled the dream atmosphere towards me and then, holding the dream atmosphere, which is subjective awareness, I brought up the imagery of difficult times in my life. And then, I….what did I do then? I’m drawing a blank there…but anyway, the idea is, within a dream atmosphere –
KRIS: Do you wish to go online and read your dream?
(Laughter)
JOHN: That won’t be necessary! In the dream, I was with some people and they helped me to….there was a big, black dog on a couch and they helped me to understand that I could enter the dog and go into a different place. So I said, “Well, how do you do that?” And they said, “Wait for it to open a port.” So I watched, and the dog somehow turned into…somehow it moved and opened, and then the people who were helping me said, “Where does it bloom? See where it blooms.”
So I stuck my head inside the dog and I could see all kinds of comic strips. Many, many comic strips, each one featuring me as the hero of the comic strip. Anyway, then I dived into the dog, and came out seemingly into the ceiling of a laundry room and into a completely different place. And the people threw my shoes and glasses in after me….Oh, before I dived into the dog, I had to take off all my clothes, and I was a bit shy about flashing the people with my bare butt, so I turned the couch — (the group begins to snicker) — so I could dive into the dog without flashing everybody in the room and that seemed to work out fine.
ELLEN: (Laughing) And all you got thrown back to you were your shoes and glasses?
JOHN: Yeah!
(Everyone cracks up)
JOHN: So I came up and I woke up and I just felt fabulous! Just thrilled to have had this experience. It was a really thrilling experience. Is that enough?
KRIS: More than enough, and you were so kind.
JOHN: (Chuckling) Yeah!
MYRNA: Kind?
JOHN: Not to flash people.
(Laughter)
KRIS: These things DO have to be noted!
(Laughter)
KRIS: The dream contains many elements and also an interpretation of remembrances of another focus, and this is most interesting and you may benefit by exploring what is known about or concerning the Dogon people.
JOHN: The “doggone” people….
ELLEN: (Bursts out laughing) Oh my god!!! Ha, ha, ha, ha! Oh, that took me a second! The Dogon.
(Several others make the connection: the Dogon people, a tribe in Africa)
KRIS: It does contain the word “dog.”
ELLEN: Yeah, it’s a pun.
KRIS: But also, because the Dogon people have known about three stars orbiting what is known as Sirius, the Dog Star. Science has identified two of them. The Dogon people have known about this upwards of five thousand years and they only recently have access to some degree of modern technologies. How is this possible? How do they know of these things?
(Someone asks who the Dogon people are)
ELLEN: They… they live in Africa, right?
KRIS: Indeed.
JOHN: I’ve heard of them.
ELLEN: They’re a tribe in Africa.
KRIS: They are the descendants of the original builders of pyramids. That original culture was very spread out at a time when the Nile Delta was slightly different and very fertile. (To John) And you were one of these people. That knowledge is buried deep in your own subjective awareness, and the dream was an attempt to communicate some of that deep knowledge to further expand the boundaries of your cognitive awareness.
JOHN: It worked.
KRIS: Indeed. It is why the symbol of the dog was so prominent, and there were those who were helping you to understand it – other individuals with that knowledge still. The idea that you peeked into the dog and saw the comic strips may very well represent geometric communications that would be nearly impossible otherwise to communicate it to you.
JOHN: Ohh..
KRIS: This focus is very learned in something very different from modern sciences. You can imagine easily, for a people that have knowledge of astronomical phenomenon that only within this lifetime has been confirmed, and yet they are sometimes considered a stone-age people, is demanding of answers. Do you not think?
JOHN: I think so. So they had another way of accessing this information?
KRIS: Indeed. And the imagery in the dream of passing through the dog represents their basic ideas that the Sirius star system was another place where humanoid forms are also to be found. We have described before that an exodus of human beings traveled to those systems a very long time ago, and some have come back to rekindle that ancient knowledge which the Dogon now possess. They now have lost much of it, but they still retain the core that is sufficient to trigger out-of-bodies and lucid experiences to access that ancient wisdom.
JOHN: So that’s even better than I thought!
MARK: This ties in with the Anunnaki, right?
KRIS: Indeed.
ELLEN: Is Sirius part of the Pleiades, too?
KRIS: (Pause) We are not specifically familiar…but you can determine that for yourselves.
ELLEN: Okay.
KRIS: We believe that the Dog Star Sirius may be part of Orion’s Belt, but you may have to determine that in more detail.
ELLEN: All right.
KRIS: But it is also closely aligned with the foundational pyramid at Giza.
ELLEN: I think I remember reading about that too.
KATHERINE: Why was there an exodus?
KRIS: You would have to read the transcripts!
(Laughter)
KATHERINE: I’m not familiar with any of this, I’m sorry. But the information is already available?
KRIS: That is correct. We wish to mention this to show you that a dream may have many, many different layers. This is definitely one of them.
JOHN: Wonderful. Thank you for taking the time to mention that.
KRIS: Indeed. Now, who is ready for some good nodi soup?!
(Group chuckles)
KATHERINE: Better than quantum soup, eh?
KRIS: What we have described previously is that your perceptions indicate to you that between one body and another or one body and any other form, there is likely a distance. That is only what your eyes perceive because the cones and the rods in your eyes are not attuned to perceiving anything else, but there are wavelengths and frequencies of energies that definitely exist, because everything is energy, everywhere.
Your forms exist as such as the result of unique wave frequencies of light, so to speak, or at least even the source of light, bent in a specific manner that is identifiable by the mechanisms of your eyesight. It is not yet possible in your genetic evolution to transform that, BUT that is only at the physical level. You have other means of perceptions. You can easily detect energy patterns, such as the emotions of other individuals, correct?
(Yes)
Even if sometimes they do not ever say anything, you can still tell where they are at. So this is one of the methods that you have to determine the energy in the environment. The space between your body and another, or another form, is filled with energy patterns. You are therefore surrounded by energy. We refer to them as nodi. Multiple nodes, all of which contain incredible amounts of information. You can imagine an invisible lymphatic system with nodes. Does that make sense to you?
(Yes)
And it extends outside of the periphery of your body because it also exists inside. You are then, superimposed upon these energy patterns. It is possible to turn your attention towards these nodi as they will be detectable as if they are physical, but non-visible.
ELLEN: By feeling.
KRIS: Indeed. (Pause) Imagine for a moment the big clouds in the sky. There are right now, towering clouds, cloud formations, and in these large cloud bodies smaller clouds are absorbed, re-absorbed, and constitute the forms of these large clouds. Now these large clouds are composed of vapor droplets. Does that make sense?
(Yes)
And vapor or water droplets are filled with particles. They could be dirt particles or other things. So you can yourselves imagine that you are cloud formations, and that your body is composed of droplets and they are filled with particles. And these are in continuous motion. It is in and around you and you may be able to detect the flow of these droplets, particles, as it composes and surrounds your human form….Does this give you a small idea?
(Yes)
KATHERINE: Are the particles each, or the nodes….do they have specific types of information that differ from each other, or are they all sort of like a replica….like each contains everything?
KRIS: Each nodi MAY be particular to a type of information, but we will discuss this as we go along.
KATHERINE: Okay.
KRIS: So we would suggest then, if you can sit comfortably….(Kris pauses as everyone re-arranges their sitting positions. To Vera) Are you following this?
VERA: (Nodding)
KRIS: Sit comfortably in a relaxed manner…..taking a deep breath, sense the rhythmic pulse of your heartbeat as it reverberates through your blood…your veins…your bones…..everywhere.
And as you continue breathing, imagine that your bodies are surrounded by small or medium-sized bubble-like shapes…..each connected to the other….by threads….creating a vast network all around you…..in the back….on the right side….in the front…on the left side…on the bottom…on the top…even inside.
A large network of interconnecting pockets of potentiality….information, knowledge, wisdom of many different kinds….stored in these very many different pockets…..(long pause)….Become familiar with their shape, size….do they have color or colors?……and become familiar with their average location approximately to you…..even within you….and acquire a general feel for the tone of these energy pockets around you….and as you become familiar with them…..ask that one nodi that contains a very pleasant memory…..within the last year….make itself known to you….whether it shines…flashes…throbs….find a way to identify that one.
And when you do, bring it before you, before your eyes….as if you are able to move these pockets of potentiality…..and when it is squarely before you, containing that lovely experience….look towards the bottom of the nodi, or somewhere around it….for a thread that needs to be connected somewhere….and when you have the thread in hand, connect it directly to your body…whether it is to the heart…to the head…or to the hand….and allow that lovely energy to share itself with you.
And once that lovely energy is downloaded into you…thank the nodi, the pocket of potentiality….and allow it to return to its original place or position….to reconnect with the system…..and gently open your eyes, coming back fully to this room……How do you all fare?
(Comments of “Good” and “Great.”)
MARK: Some very nice memories.
(Many agreements)
KRIS: Now perhaps with this you will get far more than you bargained for.
ELLEN: (Jokingly) NOW you tell us!
(Laughter)
KRIS: You may trust that it will be to your advantage and benefit. What we are going to suggest now is that in a moment you will, on your own, return to that nice inner space and ask that one nodi that contains valuable information from another one of your focuses make itself known and bring IT before you to examine, and if you find the overall gist of the experience reconstructed for you, connect and download it. Does that make sense to you?
(Yes)
JOHN: Oh, neat!
KRIS: Indeed. And pay attention to WHERE the nodi reveals itself to be. Is it on the side, behind, above, in front, the other side, below. Each individual’s system of sorting MAY be similar, but slightly different as well. Does this make sense?
(Yes)
KRIS: (To Vera) Do you follow?
VERA: Yes.
KRIS: Indeed. Then please feel free to proceed. Put on your lovely nodi minds. Breathe nicely and deeply….ask for the information within the network of the energy pockets, nodi….notice where it is situated in the network….pull it towards you and in front of you…and examine it.
(Long pause)
And after a moment allow the nodi to return to its original position…..take a deep breath…open your eyes, come back to the room…..and who would be so brave as to share their experience?
CATHY: I’ll go. Kris, when you said to focus upon a pleasant memory within the past year, the nodi was so clear, apparent right in front of me: it was from my experience in India back in the Fall, and I saw a hologram of the whole experience, no particular day or moment or anything, it was like being in a hologram of the whole experience of India. It was extremely pleasant and expanding and enlightening.
I could feel everything in the physical environment, the emotional environment, and it was terrific, and when you said hook it up with a string and put it where ever you would intuitively want to put it, I put it right into my heart chakra and the energy expanded and it became like, the next level of total awareness of what, you know, an experience like that is all about, and what it means, how valuable it is, and how inspiring and all that.
And in the second nodi one, in my visual perception, I saw it right in front of me, and I was shooting for my lama doctor, you know the one…that experience I had with that particular focus, teacher, whatever….and I was just assuming that it would be right in front of me, but it wasn’t, it was back and up over here (gestures to the upper side of the back of the head) almost like a pyramid feeling, and it was light, but like a light in a pyramid design, and I brought that one over in front of me….and that was sort of like…I thought I would see little Tibetan lamas, but it wasn’t anything like that per se, although that was a portion of it, but it went back much farther than that into what we call time or space, and whatever.
And somebody called “Shellman” or something, from an ancient, very ancient time who looked like maybe somebody from Sri Lanka or someplace like that…he was standing on a beach, a vast beach, that had a horizon with a beautiful sea and clear spacious skies…and he had a conch shell, he had long black hair and wore just a sarong, very, very elegant and very, almost other-worldly. And this thought just occurred to me this being: a “Shell man.”
Well, it turns out it seems as though this is an extension back of the form that I visualized before as this Tibetan lama who is a doctor who helped me a lot. And this is so like a continuation backwards into maybe another dimension before that form, or in a form that preceded that. Anyway, whatever it was, I brought that one right in tune, and it wasn’t the heart, it was the head. So I don’t how it will pan out, but it should be very interesting because of all the programs we’re working on for the Tibetan kids and stuff. I think I got a really good team here now…a committee that’s going to really get things rolling.
KRIS: They certainly are all very nicely plugged into their nodi.
CATHY: (Chuckling) Yeah. So this is permanent then? These nodi are permanent….is it good to use as a meditation?
KRIS: Indeed, and many others as we will hopefully show you.
CATHY: Okay.
KRIS: Energetically this is not something you leave behind when you disengage from physical life, because it is not physical. And in relationship to your widening of awareness, your network increases. The more integrity [in] the approach, the larger the network is. (Pause) Would someone else care to share?
KATHERINE: I’m not sure what was going on with mine, because I couldn’t put a person or a character to it. It was a silver thing and it was moving from my left to my right…and it was going right over, like, my horizon, so to speak…..When I was trying to pull it back in front of me I realized it was really heavy and wavy, sort of like mercury would be….have you ever seen the way a ball of mercury –?
KRIS: We are familiar.
KATHERINE: When it rolls, it’s sort of malleable, sort of? It moves, but yet, it’s still round? It was like that, it was like moving through the space like a liquid ball of silver or something….and I couldn’t get any picture of a person….I got somehow….I couldn’t get it to become a person.
MARK: The first one…the first round…I pictured like honeycombs. They were all — because of their shape — they were all connected to each other in a perfect honeycomb. And when he said bring up a memory — poof! – I could reach out and I had no problem connecting to the memories.
Now in the second time around, I was in there exploring and waiting for that flash and it was internally….and again, I’m like you, I couldn’t….I knew I was connecting with something, there was that flashing nodi, and I reached out for it, but didn’t connect with a particular….it wasn’t made known to me, or I didn’t know which one it was.
So I said, “Okay, let’s download it,” and I wasn’t sure if anything was happening, then suddenly I saw like a geometric shape come across my horizon so to speak, with a trail of light…almost like warp speed…(laughs). So I know I got something, but I think it’s got to like, unpack itself from within and it’s going to take a little time.
KATHERINE: Well see, when I was envisioning those bubbles being connected by strings or whatever, I was sort of seeing…you know when you see those models of an atom, like those round things all connected? I was sort of seeing the nodes as those, only more fluid, more –
ELLEN: That’s sort of how I was seeing it, like they were sort of just vibrating.
KATHERINE: Yeah, sort of….liquid almost. But then the one that was standing out for me was sort of silver colored, but it had this luminescence to it. Again, like that glow from within? But….hard to explain. It sort of emanates outward and goes inward at the same time. It looked like a piece of mercury rolling through the air, being moved about by the air.
ELLEN: Well, the important thing was you knew that was the one.
KATHERINE: I knew that was the one….I’m sorry.
MARK: (Humorously) No you’re not.
(Laughter)
KATHERINE: Was it a stray brain cell?
MARK: (Humorously, laughing, and making a gesture as if to capture the escaping nodi) The last one! Oh no!
KRIS: (Waiting for the laughter to subside) Now, mercury itself is rather interesting. It, as any other form in your world, is a manifestation of energy. Mercury, used very often in alchemical processes and other devices far more ancient, has always been considered somewhat unique as a form of liquid gold. Almost living, since it often seems to direct itself. It is said that the very first emperor of unified China created a vast lake of this metal.
KATHERINE: Was it a natural occurring substance that was there, or –
KRIS: It was brought in, BUT, suffice it to say that it was also utilized in many alchemical processes at a time prominent with alchemy. As well, mercury is a chief fuel utilized in Vimanas.
KATHERINE: In what?
ELLEN: Vimanas. Flying machines from the ancient Vedic culture.
KATHERINE: Oh! Okay, okay.
ELLEN: (Chuckling) You’ll have to go back into the transcripts.
(Group laughter)
KATHERINE: I will! Okay, so this is interesting.
KRIS: We do realize that some of these exercises may sometimes be taxing, but you at least grabbed the gist of some elements within it. And with practice, you will be able to expand your abilities to interact with these types of energies that are your own, and access their contained remembrances. It is said that all of the focuses are contained within Essence and are representations of and expressions of Essence. You can consider the nodi network to be small expressions of YOU. Does that make some sense?
KATHERINE: Like a celestial body of myself.
KRIS: In many respects. Small pockets of Being. They encapsulate specific memories and items from the whole of your Being. Who would like to share more?
(Several speak at once)
KRIS: You do not have to fight. There are enough nodi for everyone.
(Group laughter)
JOHN: I’ll give you mine. The instructions were….ah…to get a tidbit from another focus….so I tuned in….I got a nodi over here (gestures)…a little bit to the back and down on the left side there…it started beeping and so I brought it to the fore and what I saw was the full moon, silhouetted against a tree, and it was initially a little bit foreboding…nighttime…the tree, the moon, and that was it. And I thought, “Well, will I or won’t I?” and I thought it’s all to the good, so I grabbed the string and downloaded it into this hand and what I got was the shape of the tree in front of the moon turned into a great big owl that started flying towards me, came up, landed right in front of me and…..it’s all black and white up until now….but the owl WINKED at me –
(Laughter)
– with one great big golden eye…just kinda winked at me. Now when he winked at me, this took away the foreboding feeling of the nighttime and the silhouette and I got the feeling I was….there was something warm and beautiful about the night and about this otherwise dark and foreboding thing…and that was all I got out of it.
KRIS: There are times when the memories you capture within the nodi may appear small and insignificant, (speaking carefully and deliberately) and it is those times when we suggest that you keep an eye open for what you do not yet see in that scene. That is all we will say at this time….There is more than meets the eye, so to speak.
ELLEN: Wink, wink.
JOHN: Okay….
ELLEN: You like to pun in your visualizations.
KRIS: He is, after all, a very punny guy!
ELLEN: He’s a hoot!
MARK: (Chuckling) And what do owls do?
ELLEN: (Clapping hands and laughing) Oh my god!
(Everyone cracks up. John has an Essence aspect that Kris identified months ago, named “Hoot.”)
JOHN: AHHH!! Okay, well, I –
MYRNA: What would you do without us?
JOHN: We will…I will…investigate this!
ELLEN: (Still chuckling) That was good. Did you want to go next, Myrna?
MYRNA: Yeah, um….something over my right eye was blinking and what I got were these images of barges and the barges morphed into….what are those houseboats called in China?
(Someone offers a term)
Is that what they live on? They live on them, yes. And I just saw the barges, but what I knew behind the barge was a woman — I felt her presence — and the message I got from her is, “My life is good. I have a lot of fresh vegetables.”
JOHN: (Laughing)
MYRNA: Everything I need for cooking.
MARK: Candy. (Referring to the “Imagine That” session in which Myrna came as “Candy” a woman she knows who is very prosperous and spends money freely and happily.) Was her name Candy?
MYRNA: (Laughing) No, not this one!
ELLEN: Abundance.
KRIS: What do you think this may represent?
MYRNA: Well, I put her in some ways together with David Beckham, and something you said earlier… was that it doesn’t matter whether I have the wealth of nations or I have fresh vegetables. I feel joyful…..There’s something about the ability to cook, and to have the fresh food that felt….felt…wonderful.
ELLEN: Fulfilling?
MYRNA: Fulfilling, yeah.
MARK: And filling!
KATHERINE: And secure, connected with the Earth. Floating on the water…soothing…
MARK: Food, clothing, shelter…
MYRNA: Complete. I felt complete.
ELLEN: It’s sensual.
KATHERINE: Suspended in time in this physical….
KRIS: Indeed. Now, is there anyone left?
MARK: Yes…(looking towards Ellen)
ELLEN: Yeah. Okay. When you asked us to go back to a memory within the last year, I went right to the “Summer Solstice” session….where you spoke of the Altai people….and that was a very beautiful session to me, I really resonated with that, and later you told me that I had a focus among the Altai…an elder, a wise woman. And that’s the focus that came to me when I opened the nodi.
And, I didn’t get any real…it wasn’t really visual, it was more feeling-tones….it seemed to be…I seemed to be getting that there was a deeper…something that I’m going to be tapping into…I have to reach into a deeper well or something…and that I’m heading towards it…I’m doing fine in the direction I’m going….and….something…my eyelids or my eyes or something, kept vibrating! (Laughs)…And I was just letting it go, I was going with it, but it didn’t seem to really go anywhere…but I was very, very aware of it.
And…that was pretty much it. I just felt this satisfaction that I’m going in the right direction…uh, you know…everything that I use and everything, the insights that I’m getting and just the direction I’m going in…it feels right and it feels like that Altai focus is there….And that was pretty much it.
KRIS: Do feel free to reconnect with that sense at anytime you wish to be grounding yourself.
ELLEN: Okay.
KRIS: (Pause) Now there is something else that this network of nodi can be utilized for. You could even say there is a subsystem also prominent and very important in the manner in which you channel the direction of your own personal energies, the movement of energy within your awareness that can relate to any emotions that you have. For instance, if you feel you are coming down with a headache, you can be assured that something is desiring your attention. Do you follow?
(Yes)
The tendency is often to reach for the medicine cabinet either for a Tylenol or anything else, but what you can also do is a similar exercise, but call out the nodi that seeks to make communication that may contain energy you are resisting. Do you understand?
MYRNA: The resistance being a headache?
KRIS: Indeed. You are blocking energy that calls for your attention. Sometimes it screams for attention. And look for the thread and ask where you can connect the thread to another nodi to allow for the flow of that energy so that it can continue and not be blocked. Does that make sense to you? Do you follow that?
MYRNA: Almost. It’s trying to download some energy and I’m blocking that energy…and so I’m looking for another nodi that I can pass it over to?
MARK: You’re bypassing.
ELLEN: Looking for the thread.
JOHN: You’re patching in.
KRIS: Reconnecting as a definite method to resolve that issue. Along the way you might see imagery that will indicate to you what it is that you are blocking, that you are resisting. As Joseph explained to Segova that we did with a number of people…(to Cathy) do you remember the discussion?
CATHY: Uh….
KRIS: We explained to you that we worked with people who had headaches.
CATHY: Right.
KRIS: And within moments, the headaches were relieved.
CATHY: Because it was like, in a sense…
KRIS: Re-wired.
CATHY: Re-wired! The circuit was broken…
KRIS: Causing resistance.
CATHY: Yeah,, which in the same way is exactly what the Qi Gong stuff is all about….getting the circuitry –
KRIS: We are not releasing our secrets.
(Group laughter)
CATHY: No, but the corollary makes total sense, in terms of the energy designs for models….when you talk about nodi…it’s like the next step of that model because you felt a real consciousness in the energy circuitry system that you can like, use and shift and reconnect and hook –
KRIS: Indeed! Do you remember the old movies where the very talkative and gossipy telephone operator would connect her switches?
MARK: I’ve had that [image] already today!
ELLEN: Have you? (Mark always gets great visuals)
CATHY: Okay, you’ve had a switchboard, have you?
MARK: Yeah, in the nodi.
KRIS: So we are making the correlation because it can give you a very good visual of how to reconnect nodi into the network.
CATHY: Great. So this could be used, like if I’m working with somebody who has a very serious sickness or something, I could get him to work with the nodi –
KRIS: Indeed, you may even assist them. You may simply connect with their overall energy system without necessarily understanding any of the mechanics or details that may even get in the way. Simply ask to connect with their overall energy system. Ask to see the nodi that has resistance. Help them to identify THEIR resistance and then reconnect it, to allow for the flow of energy. Does that make some sense to you?
CATHY: That makes great sense.
KRIS: (To Mark) Do you follow as well?
MARK: Yes.
KRIS: You can utilize it for yourselves or for others. Not only do you get to find out a little bit more about the dynamics involved in your own other lives, but also leave here with what we would consider a rather potent — simple but potent — healing system. Usually it is said that that which is simple is the best.
CATHY: Now, this can be done remotely, obviously.
KRIS: Indeed.
CATHY: So that is not an issue, if the person is not present –
KRIS: Even if you only have a picture of the individual. If you do not, and you have a memory of the individual, you can work from that. If you do not know, and have no pictures of the individual, you can ask for a mental imagery of the outline of the individual.
CATHY: I kind of do that with the healing stuff that I employ –
KRIS: Indeed. Highly customizable, easily transportable.
CATHY: And free!
KRIS: Indeed. (To Vera) Do you have questions?
VERA: Yes.
KRIS: Please. Speak up.
VERA: (Vera speaks very softly. She expresses some confusion about the making of connections)
KRIS: (To Mark) Do you understand?
MARK: She’s asking to whom you’re making the connection. (To Vera) it’s more of to what. You’re connecting nodi.
KRIS: (To Vera) Do you understand the principle? Say, for instance that your body is surrounded by small bubbles of energy. You may not see them, but it is possible to become aware of them.
VERA: We ARE energy.
KRIS: (Nodding) You are energy, and your physical form is also surrounded by energy. More specifically, bubbles of energy. And each of these bubbles is connected to each other, a large network of energy. The primary purpose of our exploration is that these bubbles of energy, or nodi, as we call them, is today, to explore the contents, the memories stored within some of those bubbles concerning your other lives. Your past lives. As if they are contained in this library of bubbles.
VERA: These bubbles, they have memories.
KRIS: Indeed. And you can ask for one to be brought to your attention, perhaps you will notice one is blinking or flashing or bouncing, however it grabs your attention, bring it in front so that you can see what its contents are. And allow that energy to enrich and enhance your present experience in any way, shape or form, and then you can return it to its original position. Do you follow?
There is a secondary system of energy bubbles or network. That one contains an energy of your own system — the flow of your emotions, your tones. And when, as we used the example, you may have a headache, you will notice that one of these bubbles may be trying to capture your attention as well and it will be specifically related to a resistance you may have, a headache being symptomatic of blockage.
It could be anything else. It could be a sore arm, symptoms on the skin, or anywhere in the body. And once you identify it, notice the images that are contained within it. It may be that something occurred in your relationships or at work, or anywhere else that you have not resolved. And the energy needs to be released. Once you can make some form of identification, connect that bubble to another one to allow the energy to flow freely once again, so it is no longer blocked. It has somewhere to go. Do you follow?
VERA: Yes.
KRIS: Now we are not saying that you no longer need the assistance of your various allopathic or holistic healing systems. They are still valuable, but we are saying that the energetic roots of the challenge may indeed be resolved in such a simple manner.
VERA: Can you give a different way to connect with an emotional energy –
KRIS: Indeed. We are simply dealing with one way, but there are many wonderful systems, and you can even, if you are familiar with Emotional Freedom technique, you may even combine them, find ways to work together with the two systems. You may find they may even enhance each other. The main idea is that you are never bereft of potentials and possibilities to enhance your position. It is only when you feel bereft of and deprived of tools and resources, and you flip the switch to your own victimhood that you feel somewhat discouraged. Does that make sense?
(Yes)
KRIS: Now we suggest a small break so we can continue discussing with your lovely nodi selves.
MARK: 3:24.
[Break: There was some short discussion about the nodi and the technique of using imagination in these guided imagery practices that Kris had just led us through. I mentioned the enormous power of the imagination, and how it was recently pointed out in one of our International teleconference sessions that our imaginations create worlds and that Kris had called that a most profound and impactful statement. This brought Kris back at 3:57]
KRIS: Your observation concerning the wonderful properties of the imagination are quite accurate. Now what you experienced from YOUR end of the spectrum, you call “imagination.” And if you were to travel back up the pipe, so to speak, you would definitely think you are being overwhelmed, because you will be literally in the very factory of consciousness. That place, if it can be called a place, where the creative juices of consciousness are manufacturing according to the intent and the desires of the individual.
Thus you do create worlds through the use of your imagination. As you create your reality, so do you create even your lovely other lives. You create them. No one, no outside agency or force, has ever been able, nor will ever be able, to create anything in your reality, except perhaps draw your attention to what you have created. Does that make some sense?
(Yes)
And those so-called outside agencies or forces that would draw your attention to your creations, are merely other aspects of your own personality. As we suggested earlier today, in the eternal Now, you create all the varieties of past, present and future as you know them, and populate those areas with lovely expressions of yourselves, creating untold realities through which you explore your desires and your intent. Enjoy ALL of the details in every which way, creating a complete representation of Self, though Self is still more than all the sums of all of the parts that you create. Does that make some sense?
(Yes)
So though it may appear to you that there is a past life in the 1600′s and there is a past life in the 1200′s, and there is a past life in the 1100′s BC, or in the 22nd, 24th, 32nd century AD, you do generate them in the eternal now, depending upon the very flow and direction of your Being. Though we appreciate the standard views about reincarnation, these are interpretations for very specific, practical purposes, meant as a bridge to further and deeper understandings as you mature in this subject matter. Does this make sense?
(Yes)
But overall and always is the eternal Now, that great moment of experience where you have your Being. And there, in the great factory of consciousness, you busily put together events and conditions in various historical periods, some of which you also create different from the history books. Were you to limit your experiences ONLY to the historians’ versions of time and space, many of you would outright rebel against such limitations. So you even create the historical time periods within which you express your being in that way. Does that make sense to you?
(Yes)
So perhaps some of you might feel like dressing up as Cleopatra with all of the accoutrements, including vipers (Chuckles among the group) and Julius Caesar, BUT you will have that experience in the settings of a modern time. And if you do look at your own pre-conceived prejudices towards THOSE observations, it would seem that if you appear as an individual in the 1300′s that individual MUST be in that historical frame as well. Do you understand that? There is absolutely no reason why an ancient priest, from pre-Tibetan times may not be sitting in a Boeing 747.
[ELLEN'S NOTE: Kris spoke very slyly and deliberately as he suggested the image of the pre-Tibetan priest sitting in an airplane. He was referencing Cathy's pre-Tibetan lama focus and our flight to Toronto the previous day. This particular focus is a favorite of Cathy's, which she refers to as "Lama Doc," and she has been gradually making deeper and clearer connections to this individual]
MYRNA: Sorry, say that again?
CATHY: Because of simultaneous time, right?
KRIS: Indeed. So you very gently nudge and butt these experiences and strict events to specific timeframes and it creates the illusion that time is flowing very nicely in chronological order, and all is well with the world. And from that perspective, indeed, it works very well. But if you managed to momentarily suspend your prejudices in those areas, you might be surprised. It is not unlike listening to the silences between the musical notes whilst a symphony is playing, realizing that the silences, the gaps that appear to not have musical notes contain their own miniature symphonies. Does that make sense to you?
(Yes)
So that can give you immediate openings into a completely different non-linear, non-rational, non-logical experience of other projections or expressions or expansions of Essence, other kinds of focus. Does that make sense?
(Yes)
Now if you try to think about this very strange subject matter, you will feel your own resistances. You will feel those small voices in your mind insisting that it must be kept very neat, in historical sequence, do you not?
(Yes)
And what kind of knowledge and wisdom have you tucked away in those forgotten bookshelves, of alternative, historical lives?
CATHY: Kris can I ask you a question?
KRIS: Indeed. Feel free.
CATHY: Okay, all the simultaneous focuses — the nodi system — I have a nodi here that contains all the focuses up to the Essence, so each member, each focus, individual focus expression has also the nodi system to it? In other words you can get nodi communicating back and forth and sort of like an email thing, back and forth and then come up with the appropriate, let’s say the language that will make the difference between say now and fifteen, twenty thousand years ago, but there’s always like an UR communication system where there’s some symbolic or whatever, you can like communicate information back and forth and make it contemporary, understood in contemporary life –
KRIS: Which, very often, the translation would be done for you through the auspices of Essence itself, so that you may be able to relate.
CATHY: So in other words you get it, you translate it on some other level?
KRIS: Think of it in terms of modern science fiction, fantasy television programs where aliens from the most distant galaxies just happen to speak English.
(Group laughter)
CATHY: Great. Wow, that makes it so much easier. I can’t wait to confirm it.
ELLEN: I’ve been thinking all during this whole session….(to Kris) about the time you gave me that focus of…in the Middle Ages during the Plague and I had a fat wife –(Chuckles among the group) –
JOHN: I remember reading that!
ELLEN: Yeah, that session’s online…and the wife was so fat that she couldn’t even…she died just stuffing her face, and a wall had to be broken down to carry her corpse out…there weren’t even enough strong men to take her out…and of course my friend Ann and I were sharing that session, we were just dying laughing.
But later on it came to me that that was….while I’m sure that was a real focus (Laughs)…that it was an allegory. It was symbolic of what I was dealing with at that time of my life: I was dealing with a creative block. And I realized that that wife was this huge obstruction that I had “married” (holding up fingers in the air like quote marks) — I was married to it, I couldn’t –
JOHN: And you were feeding it –
KRIS: Indeed, and you had to break down walls of emotional barriers to remove the “corpse.”
ELLEN: Absolutely, yes.
KRIS: And if you do keep that in mind, that at all times to your rational, logical perspectives, indeed all of these other past, future, alternate lives have a certain kind of realism, whilst in truth, to the whole of Essence, they are allegorical. Even your present physical life is an allegory. (Forcefully) And it does not invalidate or devalue any of your preciousnesses! Ever! BUT, you are an allegorical representation of certain aspects of your Essence and that imbues you with authenticity, validity, and individuality.
That very fact alone can teach you so much more: that everything, every situation in your life, especially those you find challenging, are not sent your way by an opposing force or agent meant to sabotage your own best interests and joy, but instead they are an allegory of what you are entertaining and paying attention to subjectively. Does that make sense to you?
ELLEN: Absolutely. And it’s so beautiful because it’s the story of who you are.
KRIS: Indeed. Consider that EACH of you are as GIFTED as any writer that produces “Coronation Street.” (A British soap opera)
(Laughter)
You indeed create all of the dramas and out of them you extrapolate experience, knowledge, wisdom, information, and a deeper appreciation of just how precious you are.
JOHN: Not to mention pleasure and fun.
KRIS: And that is part of the picture. So we do wish to make this point because so many do get lost in the labyrinth and hamster wheels of traditional past life understandings and eventually, sometimes effectively, lose direction and their power and their authority.
ELLEN: Yeah.
KRIS: And they do not understand why. Do you have questions?
JOHN: I have a question if I may. What about future lives? We’ve been focusing pretty much on the past. Now, from what I understand, the future is a little different from the past — or it may not be, correct me — in the sense that it hasn’t been sort of chosen in our probable lives, or manifested in some level from our point of view, and that makes it somewhat different.
KRIS: Only from the perspective of the logical, rational mind. In terms of the spacious, eternal Now, when you are in your big imagination factory, you have no hesitation in creating the various times as it seems within which you project other allegories, other selves, through which you will experience.
JOHN: So, do — from my perspective here now –
KRIS: You are as much someone else’s past life, as others are your past life.
JOHN: So can I make meaningful connections with future lives?
KRIS: Indeed! Quite definite and just as productive as you would examining the so-called past lives.
JOHN: And so, is it possible…I mean, I’m assuming that the reason that that doesn’t get much attention is that it’s maybe a little bit unfamiliar for us to think about it in those terms? I mean, we can be thinking about the past –
KRIS: As well as what you just recently mentioned, that it must be somehow or other more nebulous, because it hasn’t been populated, but indeed it has, and it is.
MARK: It’s like the Shift has already taken place.
JOHN: But it must be a bit tricky for it to have already been populated and yet, I can still make choices now that….changes.
MARK: Just like your next life could be in the past.
KRIS: Only because you are entertaining perspective that it must follow a logical sequence.
JOHN: Yeah, okay.
KRIS: Think of it this way: when you walk down the street, you create every step ahead of yourself. You create the sidewalk, the asphalt, the buildings and the automobiles, and the beings and the forms, and so on and so forth. They are created for the moment. Turn the corner. As far as you are concerned, there may be nothing there until you turn that corner, because you just now created it.
JOHN: Actually, I sometimes play a little game with myself and I sort of say, “Well, I’m going to turn that corner,” and then I go the other way very quickly, and it….there it is!
KRIS: Indeed. The other corner is always there! (Group chuckles) Because you create it AS YOU GO ALONG. And this does not invalidate that you have chosen specific goals, but it falls within those categories. And again, the notion that it is more difficult to examine future lives is merely because of the notion that future lives are more difficult to tap into because they have yet to be born.
JOHN: Right.
KRIS: If you look at them from the point of view that they are as easily observed and interacted with as past lives. You may even change the notion of past/present/future tenses.
JOHN: All right, I’ll play with that.
KRIS: Indeed.
MARK: That goes back to the beginning of the session where we walked into the jewelry store and all the diamonds –
ELLEN: Yeah, yeah…
MARK: That’s what Kris was basically trying to say. It’s not a temporal thing, it’s not when the diamond was made. It’s all those beautiful gems.
ELLEN: Value fulfillment.
KRIS: Indeed. Therefore, each and every moment is a gem and a treasure to be discovered because you create it in an entirely new way for your [word obscured].
JOHN: Okay, thank you.
KRIS: You are most welcome. Other questions? Please feel free.
MARK: (To Katherine) Go for it.
ELLEN: Katherine needs an Essence name.
(Laughter)
KATHERINE: I’m curious to know what my Essence name and my six-pack…or whatever it is…?
KRIS: For the time being we will stick with an Essence name.
KATHERINE: Okay.
KRIS: We will call you Colombia.
KATHERINE: WHOA!!
ELLEN: (Singing) Colombia the gem of the ocean…
KATHERINE: Uh-oh! I once had to go to jail because of a bunch of Colombians.
(Gales of surprised laughter)
I’m not sure if I like that one!
MARK: Do you want to tell us about it?
KATHERINE: (To Kris) Can you…give me a little more detail?
KRIS: Where is Colombia on the map?
KATHERINE: It’s the northern part of South America, isn’t it? It’s the west side, the Pacific Ocean?
KRIS: Would you like a map?
(Laughter)
MARK: We can look at a map later. Please continue.
KATHERINE: Okay, well I was greatly involved with a lot of Colombians there for awhile. About thirty years ago.
ELLEN: (Chuckling) I can’t imagine what that would be.
KRIS: If you research some of the older cultures, pre-European, you may find a wealth of information about this ancient people. And for the time being, that is all we will mention, but once you do examine some of the history of pre-European Colombia, ask to have the dreams about your involvement in that ancient culture as an allegory for some wonderful adventures.
KATHERINE: Okay, thank you very much.
KRIS: And you will find it most pleasing.
KATHERINE: Oh good! I hope it’s more fun than it was years ago. It was rather dangerous there for awhile.
KRIS: And much more fun than Protestants and Catholics burning each other! We don’t believe that either makes a good barbecue! (Riotous laughter) Now, are there other questions?
JOHN: I have a quick question if I may. I was thinking about the nodi and I just had a crazy thought in the kitchen at break. And that was, it occurred to me that you might think of it as one network of nodi shared by all the focuses. So, in other words, here I’m John and I have a nodi here, and each other focus of Sohars shares that same nodi.
KRIS: This is a tertiary level nodi connection. If you look at it another way as well, each Expression of Essence represents its own nodi within the body of Essence. And each Expression has its own unique system of nodi.
JOHN: Right, right. I see. So the connecting point is the focal point itself, which is a nodi in the larger body.
KRIS: Indeed.
JOHN: Okay, well that’s helpful.
MYRNA: Which is why you know that holds the memory.
JOHN: Right, of that focus….but he suggested at a tertiary level that there is a connection among all the nodi….okay, yeah yeah, I got ya.
KRIS: We do not wish to get overly (unable to make this out on the audio) on this nodi system, but now you have three layers of it. We believe that this is sufficient for the time being. It could even be said that the clusters of consciousness represent another layer of nodi. But we will leave it at that for the time being.
Now, we wish to release Joseph to you, and in doing so, we thank you deeply and warmly, and we encourage each and every one of you to bless yourselves completely and enjoy the existing that you do because it must be lived in moments, past or future selves aside. This particular expression or lifetime of yours is of extraordinary value to you, and respect it as such. So give yourselves the GREATEST gift of all: being blessed in this moment. And we release Joseph to you now.
ALL: Thank you, Kris.
(Workshop session ends at 4:27 PM)
Processing – A Kris Walk
June 23, 2006
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Ellen Gilbert (Kwaa’Ji)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on June 23, 2006
Roll Call: Serge (Joseph), Mark (Philip), Ellen (Kwaa’Ji) and Cathy (Segova)
KRIS: Now we trust that you are comfortable.
ELLEN: (Jokingly) I wonder who that could be!
MARK: (Chuckling)
KRIS: And that you have nicely recuperated from yesterday.
[ELLEN'S NOTE: Kris is referring the previous day's all day workshop "Past Life Dynamics," which Cathy and I came up from Philadelphia to attend.]
ELLEN: Oh, we have.
MARK: Indeed!
KRIS: Do any of you have any comments? Observations?
ELLEN: I think that was a very special workshop.
CATHY: Oh, it was great! Unbelievable.
MARK: Truly enjoyable. Not what I expected… In a good way.
ELLEN: Yeah, we kind of discussed that, seeing as how most of us have had so much of a background in Seth and everything, but I thought that Vera kept up really, really well.
KRIS: It is usually, and very often interesting to note, that in spite of many of the advances in various fields of quantum physics, a great deal of people would still, metaphysically, hold onto some of the most simplistic approaches for the simple fact that, in many ways, it does not overly cause change of perception where they can make slight adjustments one way or another but not reach out to such a degree that they would have to re-think their position and rediscover what reality is, or their very own nature. So it allows an introduction to knowledge often still considered forbidden, as if they are sneaking a box of chocolates into the hospital to a friend.
CATHY: Or a carton of cigarettes!
KRIS: Indeed. But overall, the notions of reincarnation will greatly change, even over time. Consider what was introduced into the western world but a few hundred years ago with the works of Alice Bailey, Annie Besant, and many others on the forefront of and the cutting edge of esoteric spiritualism and knowledge.
Then the great waves of the swamis introducing very orthodox views that are still often adhered to both in the Eastern and Western worlds and follow through with the advent of spiritualism which brought to the western mind a certain revelation that death was not as final an enemy as considered. Things began to change. Minds began to be opened. It eventually seeped into common vernacular and vocabulary.
Then with the introduction of the Cayce material, yet new ground was broken. New hilltops were suddenly seen as potentially climbable. New mountains could be scaled and a few years later, Ruburt and Seth actually stirred the waters, raised the mud, but cleared many misconceptions. And the flow continues. Now, try to imagine perhaps one hundred years from now how things may be again as different. This will give you an indication that none of this material should be considered as the absolute final word.
ELLEN: Oh, absolutely!
KRIS: It is itself in a state of transformation, according to the required knowledge of those who seek it, and their particular stage of development. Children in kindergarten are taught to form letters of the alphabet, how to play with blocks, and they are taught foundational structures that are necessary for them to then build careful, congruent sentences and the edifices of their own personal philosophies as they go through the system. You cannot expect a child in kindergarten to begin writing his or her thesis. So as time goes by, they change, they evolve, and so does this material, this knowledge.
ELLEN: Yes.
KRIS: To establish any teacher’s material and information as the definitive, absolute last word on these issues may suit some personalities very nicely, but in the long run does a disservice. It allows no more room for growth. It is not unlike someone saying, “Now I know everything,” which simply means, “I no longer wish to know anything else.”
ELLEN: (Chuckling) Yeah!
KRIS: If you are infinite beings beyond the scope of time and space, how can you claim that knowledge transmitted to you through the auspices of time and space and its various paraphernalia to be the absolute last word? We would dare to say that even up to this point in your culture’s history; you are still playing with building blocks and learning to form your alphabet.
ELLEN: I would like to think there are more people like Vera was yesterday, who are willing…not afraid to…to be brave enough to delve into the material the way she was. I mean, she knew it was kind of advanced for her, she was unclear, but she was really, really open and really wanted to learn.
CATHY: And it wasn’t her first language.
ELLEN: (Chuckling) Yeah, it wasn’t her first language! You see so much….shutting off…even with younger people…that, you know….if you start speaking to them outside of the box that they’ve been –
KRIS: The often recognized tendency is to take such materials and information, trim off what you do not IMMEDIATELY understand within your own relevances, relativism, and trim it all off, only absorb that which resembles previously established information, and then, put it back in the box.
ELLEN: Yeah.
KRIS: So this is an art, it is the art of THINKING that is being addressed to.
ELLEN: Yeah, yeah. Thoughtful consideration.
KRIS: If the artist only draws boxes and then assumes that he or she cannot draw anything else on his canvas, then after awhile there is no more creative juice. Does that make some sense?
ELLEN: Oh, yes.
CATHY: Brahm, do you know about the Course in Miracles, and how it’s described by Helen Schucman?
ELLEN: (Giggling) Kris.
[Kris clued us in at the beginning of the walk by way of his standard opening greeting that it was he and not Brahm who was speaking.]
CATHY: Kris! I’m sorry….um, you know about it, right?
KRIS: Indeed.
CATHY: It says it’s for….it explains in the end that there are many, many paths that we’re on, all going to the same place, and each one has its own function and way and this is a particular way: the quote unquote “Plan of Atonement.” And what they’re saying essentially is, get over the judgment thing, get on the forgiveness train and sort of launch into a bigger awareness of what you actually are.
But I’m wondering….are they going to have an equivalent thing to undo the thought system the way it’s been distorted in Christianity…which is the dominant belief system in a way…Are they going to do a similar thing in Buddhism? Like is Buddha going to come through with, let’s say, a “Course in Dharma”? You know, some scribe over there in India will be banging out a book –
KRIS: We do not perceive such an event occurring simply because unfortunately many such systems are even more “in the box” than Christianity. There are some redeeming qualities after all, in Christianity and Christian thought. One of them is the possibility of such openings being allowed for.
In many of the Eastern cultures, for instance in India you have the caste system which is itself a distortion utilized to control the populace and it is deeply embedded with the belief that, once in the caste, always in the caste, in one caste, and that is the end of the story. And if you try to go beyond your caste you are immediately pushed back. That is why many left India and came to the West, but then they continued their culture here in some ways, so they did not necessarily escape their mentality.
CATHY: Right. So with the passing of time, maybe their offspring will be hyphenated Indians, American or Canadian, maybe they’ll see the new perspective, and take it back to the East and it’ll go on from there perhaps, I don’t know. There’s got to be some plan enacted….or else it’ll just be too slow.
KRIS: Only if you look at it from that perspective. As with all things, change never occurs overnight.
CATHY: That’s true unfortunately.
ELLEN: We might not like it if it did occur overnight.
CATHY: That’s right. “Patience is built in,” is one of the little pop quizzes of the universe.
KRIS: (After a long silent pause) Please take advantage of this time.
CATHY: Oh, okay, another question I have: within the past few years I’ve been studying with a couple of Asian, quote unquote “masters,” and one of them is Chinese, who came up via the Taoist and Shaolin Buddhist master system of training and all that, [he] is a Chinese doctor and a Western doctor and he’s been studying.
One of his masters, his big teacher, has come up with a new, you might say streamlined version of traditional Chinese medicine he calls the body-face medicine, which cuts down all the gigantic pharmocopeia to about a hundred substances and new energetic designs about how the body system energy thing works and all.
And this is how he presents it: this has got to take place in the West, you gotta take this system of medicine to the West where it will feed and grow and be accepted and transform everything, and then the West will in turn bring it back to the East. So I’m thinking, “Gee, that’s pretty far out,” you know?
Like, all of a sudden, the Eastern masters have been sort of squished, because I guess the political situation, Communism and so forth, have sort of like regrouped and seem to have this big plan, whether it’s real or not, to send all their ancient sacred information over here, especially the United States, have it take root, and then have them basically re-educate the Chinese with the new and improved system. Is that part of the Shift, plan and design? Or is that just a bunch of, well, let’s just say that Imperial kind of mentality.
MARK: Probably for them. I don’t know about on a world scale.
KRIS: Knowledge of that nature has always flowed in one direction and the next. There are always exchanges, give and takes, much in the nature of a wave, coming from one distant shore, traveling the oceans, going to the opposite distant shore and then traveling back again. So much of the knowledge that was espoused ages ago in the East had roots in Western cultures, many of them now gone. And now slowly, knowledge from the East is making its way back to the West. These will be transformed, returned, in a continual give and take, for that is the nature of consciousness. Everything is always in a state of transformation, just as your physical body is always in a state of transformation, even though you may not notice it.
CATHY: So that symbol, yin-yang, the ‘S’ going back and forth in constant motion, is that actually a design for how consciousness…
KRIS: In many respects, even though it presents, or is symbolic for balance. That is how balance is formed, by allowing transformations. When there are resistances, there are imbalances. For instance, when there are resistances to your own emotional issues, it creates imbalances within the overall quantum of the body. That is why we presented the material on the NODI1 over the last several weeks, including yesterday.
ELLEN: Kris, you talked about the Native American teachings possibly….possibly coming back into the forefront. How does that fit in with the wave of the Eastern knowledge coming into the West?
KRIS: We believe you do not quite understand your own question.
ELLEN: (Chuckling) Okay. Uh…I’m not sure how to formulate it….are the teachings just so similar that it’s really moot? Or am I….or are they so different that we’re just talking about apples and oranges?
KRIS: They are all fruits.
ELLEN: Yes….so it’s not a matter of the Native American teachings not fitting in with the Eastern?
KRIS: That is correct.
ELLEN: Okay.
KRIS: Over time and isolation, some of the teachings have been lost and some of it has been transformed, and it may appear to be different, but the recognition of its roots will show deep connections to aboriginal teachings all over the world.
ELLEN: Okay. They really all come from one place.
KRIS: They are all attempts and interpretations of that deepest of all knowledge: Self.
ELLEN: Okay, yes.
KRIS: Various attempts to express the material according to time and space.
ELLEN: So just like there’s room for Kris and Elias and Abraham and whatnot, there’s room for the Native American teaching, and Australian aboriginal teaching, and the Buddhist teaching?
KRIS: Indeed.
CATHY: Many paths, one destination.
ELLEN: Many paths… yes. Very good and one root.
KRIS: If there was only one way…
CATHY: It would be very crowded.
KRIS: And rather boring. Diversity, fun, etc. are as much part of the picture so that the many may have many ways. Even though they still lead to Self. But to claim that there is only one way, and none other, invalidates every one else, including those who make the claim.
MARK: All roads lead to Rome.
CATHY: Let’s hope not Rome any more, lets make a cooler place!
MARK: How about SELF.
ELLEN: Self is cool. (Chuckling) Consciousness is cool! (The mantra of Newworldview.com)
KRIS: (Pause) Are you certain Philip is here?
(Laughter)
MARK: I do like the concept….actually….what’s the wording? … When you did speak of Native Americans bringing more harmony and balance to this continent in the future, I resonated with that. I understood….I believe I understand what you were saying. To bring back some of their traditions and even some of their belief structures, their ceremonies, their care for the planet, and ultimately care for self and the tribe, is something that we do need to bring back into North America.
ELLEN: And their working with dreams….the way they worked with dreams.
CATHY: But they also had tremendous amount of challenge within their own tribes.
MARK: Right now they do, and in a way they have forgotten their own history.
CATHY: Yeah, that’s right.
MARK: They’re moving away from their own traditions.
CATHY: Well, it’s not like they haven’t been pushed there.
MARK: True, true, this isn’t a blame game.
CATHY: It may be way better in Canada than it is down in the states.
KRIS: And at the same time, in order for those actions to apparently have been perpetrated upon North American and western world natives, there had to be an engagement of those particular belief structures; and within their own culture, a deep need to see some degree of transformation itself. This does not exonerate or excuse what actions transpired. But, because of those actions over the last five hundred years, the resurrection of native knowledge will acquire a new sense of self and a new direction and very likely, a means through which even westerners will recognize that there is more to whom and what they are than a McDonald’s hamburger.
(We all snicker)
CATHY: Is there going to be any, in the immediate future, like say, in a decade or so, any movement in the Muslim world for a transformation, or more like reformation?
KRIS: Reformation. It has already begun. In some very high profile Muslim circles to disavow and distance themselves from extremism, but this will take time.
CATHY: The new…the meeting that they had with the Dalai Lama and Desmond Tutu and a bunch of clerics of high level within the past year, this recent week or two with Jordan to come up with a game plan of tolerance and finding the common denominators of all of the assorted religions and so forth, kind of like trying to steer the quote unquote “faithful” into a new direction of tolerance. Is this going to pick up momentum?
KRIS: Not for some time, because it is not the faithful as much that need to be pushed as those who believe they are the ones that tell the faithful what to do. It is the leaders themselves who are in need of the transformations.
CATHY: So this will have impact? They seem to be pretty influential…mostly men of course…but at least they’re making an attempt. It’s getting some publicity in the states in terms of journalism, but not a lot. They’re actually focusing on it like this is something…? (We pull Cathy out of the way of approaching cyclists)…whoa! I didn’t know we were on the bike path!
So in terms of Seth talked about 2075, you know, the big Shift in consciousness will be well established by then, at least well footed; is this going to be a slow process for them, or will it actually start picking up momentum and by 2075 will be like eminently clear, like “Wow, we’ve been through an enormous Shift on the planet!” as a people, as a human family.
KRIS: The Shift is in the thinking, what is allowed, what is not allowed and who does the allowing. The significance will ripple out through the human community, but it will not be done without a few growing pains. There is so much ambiguity concerning this Shift and there are some who profess to know exactly how it will proceed because of something they have read or heard.
ELLEN: There’s a lot of misunderstanding.
CATHY: And a lot of doomers. Like a two-by-four across the head school of learning. It seems to be a number of people buy into the mass destruction. California will be swept into the ocean. It seems God is going to punish you for all your sins.
KRIS: People have been claiming California will drop into the ocean for a hundred years.
ELLEN: A lot of people always keep talking about it in the future tense. “It’s coming, the Shift will be here,” but…it’s happening now. It’s a process, isn’t it?
CATHY: Will there be a time in the not too distant future when the government of the United States won’t be so in denial about all the contacts and evidence about life in other planetary systems that have made attempts to communicate with us and are here and so forth? And they have plenty of evidence for it, but they keep it quiet to not rattle the populace.
KRIS: That is a rather difficult question and it has many implications, the question itself. More than enough of the population is already aware that to think that only your planet can possibly sustain intelligent life is rather egoic. What it implies however, is that you must somehow as a species become literally cosmopolitan and perhaps even eat a few small morsels of humble pie.
CATHY: Will there be attempts made in a way that they can prevent to actually (inaudible due to high winds and traffic sounds) make appearance in a public venue within the next few years in some countries (inaudible).
KRIS: Again, somewhat difficult simply because even presently on your planet the Christians are far too eager to slice a few Muslim throats. So why would a species alien to your own planet step into that kind of atmosphere?
CATHY: So it’s best for us to find ways and discover ways to go out and meet them in their territory?
KRIS: It is best for your species, in so many words, to grow up.
(Long pause) So we take it that you are all out of questions.
CATHY: We have a lot to think about since yesterday with all the information and the new exercises, how broadening they are, but for me they are kind of like…whoa! They put me into a non-word area, which I must say is pretty rare!
MARK: I have to admit, before yesterday, I paid little attention to NODI and what you were really saying. I know that John did take the time to understand NODI better during his private sessions, but it was something that I didn’t take on until yesterday and I really, really enjoy it. And I find there’s lots of potential for that type of a tool. You’ve just touched the tip of the iceberg with it, and even that, those three little lessons, can do so much, let alone… I can see so much more.
CATHY: Right.
MARK: I can see myself reaching for a NODI in any given situation.
CATHY: And without any special circumstances.
MARK: Yeah.
ELLEN: I feel like I need time to practice it, time to assimilate it.
KRIS: That will be key, more than anything else. Now we will give you a small break and return shortly.
[ELLEN'S NOTE: This turned out to be the end of the Walk session however. The four of us, even despite Cathy's ability to never seem to run out of questions, were all saturated with the new insights, ideas and concepts from the workshop and needed time to absorb and work it out in our minds as well as in practice, and I believe that Kris understood this.
In fact, when we returned from our walk we all took naps, had dinner and were fully refreshed when Kris returned that evening for the regular Sunday night Toronto session, which turned out to be quite revelatory in a number of ways, at least for myself. I found that I was able to make a definite leap in understanding by then, the time and inner processing giving me that certain space that allowed me to take the information in and feel it seep into the very center of my Being where I could feel it take root and begin to grow.]
[MARK'S NOTES: It is hard to tell from reading this transcript that the three of us were unusually silent and thinkative. There were quite a few long pauses and very few questions. Each one of us seemed to be in our own little world.]
ENDNOTES
1 MARK’S NOTES: NODI
KRIS: In fact medical science considers that though they may all work to keep the body alive, they are all themselves quite separate, as if any one of them can be amputated at any given time without affecting the overall balance of all the systems. And in theory it works up to a point, but in reality, in terms of the physical body, you cannot simply remove a series of organs or systems and expect the rest to function as if nothing happened. They are interdependent. They are connected.
That connectedness is a vast system of sentient intent which we spoke of concerning the very preliminary creation of reality and the forms within it. There is then a vast network of units of consciousness filled with nodes and NODI, which literally fill up all of the space you think contains nothing between you or any other form or shape or entity.
This space is filled with consciousness and it contains nodes and NODI. That is spelled N-O-D-I –points of entry, smaller nodes creating a vast complex of sentient intent which still permits you all to enjoy your individuality, your independence of thought and expression, but underneath that veneer, that very thin veneer of ego is a vast reality where everything is linked and connected.
http://www.krischronicles.com/2006/2006-04-09-open-mic.html
Kris expanded upon these NODI during the June 24, 2006 Past Life Dynamics Workshop in Toronto.
Welcome to Toronto – A Brahm Walk
June 23, 2006
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Ellen Gilbert (Kwaa’Ji)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on June 23, 2006
Roll Call: Serge (Joseph), Mark (Philip), Ellen (Kwaa’Ji) and Cathy (Segova)
[ELLEN'S NOTE: Cathy and I had arrived in Toronto just a few hours prior to this session in order to attend the "Past Lives Dynamics" workshop scheduled for the next day. We'd just had a lovely dinner together with Serge and Mark and they had graciously planned to take us along with them on one of their wonderful "Kris Walks," which we were looking forward to. Little did we yet suspect exactly whom we would be walking and chatting with!]
BRAHM: We take it that you had a most pleasant flight.
ELLEN: Yes, we did!
CATHY: Great flight, Kris.
BRAHM: And we also take it that you have now been able to identify when Kris is speaking and when it is Brahm.
MARK: Yes.
ELLEN: Hmmmm….I think maybe…..Kris is speaking now. (I am walking on Serge’s left and as I take a glance at his face, he smiles)
MARK: (Chuckling) No, it’s Brahm.
ELLEN: Is it?!? (Laughing. I really didn’t expect the “big tree trunk” to come through!)
(We all crack up together.)
BRAHM: Kris has a very standard introduction, mainly: “We trust that you are comfortable, and we thank you for your consideration.” WE try to be somewhat more flowery.
ALL: (Chuckling)
BRAHM: (To Ellen) Now, we trust that you have been able to situate YOUR own creation of the Newworldview event, at least enough to give you perspective.
ELLEN: I definitely think I’ve gotten some perspective on it. I’m still kind of reaching for my Balance and Harmony, but I think I’ve gotten….I think I feel a lot better. I think there have been some good things that came out of it, all in all….I don’t like thinking that there’s this element…you know, that we have to keep watch over….I keep hoping that we’re going to see a breakthrough with a lot of people.
But just speaking for myself, I really feel like this brought us closer together. This made us family. Before I was feeling, especially at the time of the workshop in February that I was really feeling how wonderful it was to feel like a team, and I didn’t think it could get much better than that, but NOW I feel like we’re family. And another thing I really realized was that I’m not afraid of the lion energy any more. The lion1 really came out and….I feel like I’ve assimilated it.
BRAHM: To a greater degree you have. If you were to look at a regular map, say of a city or a county, a country, or the world, everything looks fairly flat. If you look at a topographical map, though there is implied flatness, you can also see gradations of elevations which gives you a different perspective on the lay of the land, correct?
ELLEN: Yes.
BRAHM: Now, if you change the angle of perception on a topographical map and instead of looking at it from above, which still gives you a fairly flat layout, but instead, you look at it from the side with all of its gradations, you then get far more than just a three-dimensional perspective. You can see the various layers and elevations as they are depicted topographically. Does that make sense still?
ELLEN: I think so.
BRAHM: Now imagine more than that that you can zoom in on any slice of such a map to isolate any particular section at any time, as if you are going in there with tweezers, pulling a section out to examine it. And then, so as to not disturb the balance in the map, you put it back after you have examined the section.
ELLEN: Yes.
BRAHM: This will give you more direct knowledge of the contents of that portion of the map. This of course, is symbolically speaking. However, in terms of energy, you CAN learn to reach in and extract but a small portion of what is before you, examine it, as the small extraction will give you a complete detail of the entire process as it is contained in the sample. Then you can return it, knowing what you are doing with it. Does that make sense to you still?
ELLEN: I think so. I sort of thought of the exchange I was having with Eric the last couple of days [on the Inner Visions Journal forum]. It was almost like Eric was sort of a section of the whole, and how he and I both realized that there was a lot of misunderstanding that had been going on….and I think that…that IS representative of the whole.
BRAHM: Indeed, there is not a single individual on your planet that can claim to have escaped, in one form or another, the events and circumstances of daily life and that can claim to be unscarred at the same time.
ELLEN: Absolutely.
BRAHM: People have various ways to deal with their issues up to and including burying and denying them for their own purposes. Some of those purposes may very well include working at eventually recognizing those actions of burying and denying and until this is clear the ego self cannot claim to be healed.
And it matters not, in the sense that one can say, “I have read that I am a whole self.” You may be a whole self, but you are not seeing and being a wholeness. You are a patchwork of sections of self. You are like a Raggedy Ann or Andy doll, made up of pieces of cloth, stitched together to give the semblance of an individual. You may still function as an individual, but there will be a core of pain and suffering to various degrees.
ELLEN: Yes. It’s the denying and the suppressing that…
BRAHM: THAT is what is causing the suffering, not the events themselves.
ELLEN: Yeah.
BRAHM: Your present culture has in various ways learned to become experts at avoiding and denying its own pains, all for various reasons. When the individual is ready to make peace with itself, then the processes will begin. And this is the process that leads to eventual world peace. Does that make some sense still?
ELLEN: Yes. I just wonder sometimes…were we wrong to kind of push the river the way we did….to open that…
BRAHM: You also know full well that no one can push a river around.
ELLEN: (Laughing) Absolutely! Yeah…
BRAHM: If anyone does the pushing, it is the river.
MARK: Remember, we don’t do ANYTHING unless there’s benefit, in some way, shape or form.
ELLEN: Yeah.
MARK: And all of us collectively participated in that and understood that.
ELLEN: Yeah. I think when I opened that particular can of worms as Paul terms it….
MARK: (Chuckling)
ELLEN: I knew there was going to be an onslaught of a lot of hostility, but when it was fully directed at me the way it was, it was very, very draining.
BRAHM: Why do you suppose that is? (Pause) Firstly, we believe you understand that if you open a can of worms, the early bird will line up! (We all laugh) It is in the nature of the early bird to want to get the first worm. Also….what is it that tired you the most?
ELLEN: (Thoughtfully) What is it that TIRED me the most? I suppose trying to stand my ground, really.
BRAHM: Indeed, the resistance, BUT the question is, were you resisting apparent onslaughts from the outside OR something that needed to be released from the inside?
ELLEN: From myself, yeah. I had to reach my own understanding too.
BRAHM: Indeed and you do not have to offer yourself any conclusions to that effect on the spot. Since the Self is also multi-layered, the ripples of this WILL continue and you will get the feedback as soon as you need it.
ELLEN: Yes.
BRAHM: Our suggestion then, is not to offer resistance, but to offer appreciation.
ELLEN: Yes, yeah. Yeah. I noticed that with some of the posters was that they just wanted recognition and appreciation….and a lot of the time they were only getting it from each other, and so they clung together.
BRAHM: Indeed, like a collective inner voice wanting your attention.
ELLEN: Yeah, yeah.
BRAHM: So in many ways, you have offered yourself an excellent insight into your own resistances and this is a great step towards reconciliation. And again, there is no need to have all of this resolved on the spot.
ELLEN: Can’t push that river.
BRAHM: Indeed not. You will definitely get a hernia if you push the river!
(Laughter)
ELLEN: I had a….I went through your…. I can’t remember whether it was Kris’ meditation or Brahm’s meditation….(laughs) I guess it was the last Toronto session with just John and Mark….the meditation of going up in the pyramid and bringing back the energy. I had done it once the first time and then, when all this was going down I tried it again. And….there was a section about slipping a skin or something like that…and I saw a snake slipping its skin and the snake turned into a cobra, raised up with its hood opened.
Then, as you were talking about the pyramid….going up inside the pyramid…I saw the lion up inside the pyramid, hovering at the top, and then I saw the snake, intertwined with the lion….and then…that image turned into a caduceus — the medical emblem? The staff with the snakes winding around it? And superimposed over that was a lion rampant. Then it broke into two….the image broke into two….and when you said bring it down and compress it and put it somewhere on yourself….a small one I put right here in my forehead and the other one right at the level of my throat.
And at the time, I was thinking of this whole onslaught [on NWV]….and that image made me realize that I can take that lion energy and I can use it for healing……but it’s tricky. (Chuckling) It’s kind of a balancing act because I was walking the line the whole time.
BRAHM: Perhaps the principle here is that this lion medicine need not be utilized to defend or heal what you may perceive as others, but instead, concentrated upon YOUR SELF.
ELLEN: Uh-huh.
BRAHM: No matter how much the ego would want to take on the others, when you recognize that action, then you know immediately that you are trying to deny YOUR Self by countering and fencing with the other. And that does immediately set up resistance and depletes you of valuable energy and insight.
ELLEN: And that’s why I felt so depleted the last few days.
BRAHM: Indeed. You were fighting yourself.
ELLEN: Yeah.
BRAHM: And you know neither of you will win.
(Everyone laughs)
[MARK'S NOTES: At this point in time, I interrupt the session. It is getting dark and we need to turn back, but I waited until this point to do so, because I wanted to show Ellen and Cathy the babbling brook that Kris refers to so often in our walks. We are standing on a small wooden bridge (one of many) that crisscrosses the stream along this path.]
MARK: We should probably turn back at this point and go in the other direction, but I wanted you guys to see this. As you’ll see on Sunday, this will intertwine…we’ll cross it several times, there’s fast-moving, slow-moving [sections of the water].
CATHY: Is this part of the Toronto River?
MARK: This is Taylor Creek. It leads into the Don River.
ELLEN: This is great.
CATHY: Oh, okay. Yeah, this is great. Brahm, can you see little nature spirits over it?
(We all laugh, and as we begin to turn back, and as we do so, Cathy moves to the inside to Brahm’s right and I slip to the outside with Mark on Brahm’s left.)
BRAHM: Nature spirits, as you and others often call them, have very little to do with externalized energies, simply because there are none. What you DO see or sense at times, even if they appear in the classical little wee people, are really those aspects of your consciousness that are intertwined in the processes of making the nature. Those are aspects of your own consciousness that are naturally expressed and expanded into what your senses defined as tree form, lawn form, park form, bridge form, whatever you wish to call it. So these are aspects of your own energy DELIGHTING in the creation of the nature.
CATHY: Is that the equivalent of like, the ancient Chinese….I was with a Tibetan Chinese master a couple of weeks ago and he was teaching us how to get Chi from nature….okay, for instance, everything is nature, everything is Chi, everything is consciousness…
BRAHM: Indeed.
CATHY: And it doesn’t necessarily have a separate personality whatsoever, but it does have its own sort of like…
BRAHM: It will have its own flow.
CATHY: Focus. It will have its own focus.
BRAHM: Because it is also an expansion of YOUR own personal energy.
CATHY: In other words, that’s the total unifying field theory, right? In other words, that’s it. Everything is connected, there’s nothing that isn’t.
BRAHM: There indeed are no disconnections.
CATHY: Yep. That’s it.
BRAHM: You could say the unifying field theory is a scientific explanation for Self.
CATHY: Uh-huh. Okay. The one great big gigantic Self. Huge gigantic Self! (Giggling)
BRAHM: It is difficult at times because your terminologies, your syntaxes, even your neurological processes are already slanted towards a form of prejudiced perception. It appears to you that you are a small Being amongst many, but you are not a small Being. You may be amongst many, but the many also are more than one. When you, not you specifically, but when people talk about “there is nothing but oneness,” there is a disconnection in the understanding.
CATHY: Okay.
BRAHM: The oneness is of many onenesses. Individuality IS part and parcel. It is the foundational concept of everything. Individuality, it seeks to express itself through YOU, through YOU and through YOU. [Pointing from person to person.] You are therefore expansions of what you call your Essence.
CATHY: And then our Essence is like an expansion of what we call Entity?
BRAHM: In many ways, yes.
CATHY: And so there’s like a…..the way Seth talks about families of consciousness, which I think has probably been expanded on a lot by others, but…..it seems as though there are big, gigantic groupings and that eventually all families of consciousness will then have an UR family of consciousness that THEY come forth from and so and so on. Is that true, when they talk about the beginning of time and all that?
BRAHM: There are always varying kinds of intent, just as in the ocean; not only do you have millions of different life forms, but you have different kinds of water within the body of the ocean. There may be volcanic vents which have very high degrees of temperature, there might be nearby water that is near freezing. At other layers or levels within the ocean, there are different currents and even some of these currents may be saltier than others. So there are GREAT amounts of varieties within the ocean, yet it is still ONE ocean, and it is fed by other bodies of water. Still, it is water.
CATHY: So we’re all water!
BRAHM: In many ways you are, even physically speaking. We believe you have also been referred to in the past as “bags of mostly water.”
[NOTE: This is a line from a "Star Trek: TNG" episode where an alien life form tried to describe humans as it perceived them. That amusing term has also been used by Kris, probably due to Mark's affection for that TV series and its offshoots.]
(Everyone laughs)
And this process of families or intents of consciousness is something unique to the level of Essence. When you enter, for lack of a better word, the territory of Entity, again, the perspective is very different. We do not necessarily pre-occupy ourselves whether we are Sumari, Sumafi, or even Vilsuma [Brahm is probably referring to a family of consciousness from another cluster], it is to us somewhat irrelevant, but not to be discounted.
CATHY: Uh-huh, yeah.
BRAHM: Its principles are necessary for the fulfillment of Essence and everything created from Essence.
CATHY: It’s like a learning structure.
BRAHM: And it is a most important edifice. It allows you to understand the movement of intent, that action most important because you utilize the direction of that intent to construct your realities. From the perspective of Entity, the actions of consciousness are very different, so different that at this point perhaps there is not yet vocabulary to describe it, but it will come.
CATHY: You mean it will come through….humans will understand this, or start understanding it more?
BRAHM: And we may eventually be able to discuss this through Joseph.
CATHY: Wow! Wow, that’s great. Get ready to take a lot of notes, Ellen!
ELLEN: (Chuckling)
BRAHM: This does not mean that your understandings about families of consciousness, families of intent, everything pertinent to this, are not valid. You need this for purposes of understanding.
CATHY: Uh-huh. So when an Essence….let’s say for instance my Essence, Segova…. all of Segova’s focuses are projected, the projected focuses would be Tumold? As primary? In other words, do we like, in the Tumold family, do we always, in some capacity, be in healing frequencies in our environment?
BRAHM: In many degrees, yes. Your Essence utilizes that movement of energy for very specific purposes in order to achieve those goals that are essential for its value fulfillment through the value fulfillment of its Expressions, meaning Focuses.
CATHY: So then is it correct to say or is it not quite appropriate to say that all the focuses from Segova are all in some way primarily oriented towards Tumold?
BRAHM: Not necessarily, but there are many.
CATHY: Oh, there are a lot of us, huh? That figures. We should open up our own hospital!
MARK: (Chuckling) As patients or doctors?
CATHY: We’ll do both! We need both.
BRAHM: You may hurt yourselves so that you may heal yourselves. Keep it in the family.
CATHY: Right. So then another way of saying, in other words, if there were a whole bunch of focuses who were Sumari….you know…projected from one Essence, would they have a collective goal of establishing some kind of information base here.
BRAHM: That may be part of intent.
CATHY: Oh, okay. So the intent is before anybody even gets popped into a focus.
BRAHM: Indeed, and that intent INCLUDES intending to focus.
CATHY: Okay, gotcha. That makes sense.
MARK: Remember the belonging to and the aligning with aren’t necessarily the same. So the Essence and the focus might not be — even though it’s still there, participating for the sake… or….influencing…it may not necessarily be prominent.
BRAHM: Consider this: when most human beings go to work, especially in the modern high-tech society, you make use of computers nowadays, or so many electronic and technical gadgetry. They are the instruments through which you accomplish your work. Compare that with families of consciousness and its various energies, as the tools to accomplish your work. When you clock out at five o’clock, you utilize other tools with which you navigate through reality, the reality you create. Does that make sense?
CATHY: I’m trying….yeah, I’m trying to grasp it in here…
BRAHM: Indeed.
CATHY: It’s coming in. I’m figuring it out. (Pause) So all of it….in a sense there’d be a blueprint then, for everything working by some sort of plan in a way?
BRAHM: Up to a point. Not in the meaning that everything is pre-destined.
CATHY: Oh, I didn’t mean pre-destined, but sort of like an opening…
BRAHM: You do create your own goals, even as in modern society, you may establish your goals between now and five years, now and ten years. Some may even be hit and miss, and others will be accomplished, and you utilize this kind of grid for very similar purposes. You have things you wish to accomplish. You will utilize the energies of the intents, the families and blueprints to accomplish those goals.
CATHY: And you do them unconsciously and then you bring them into consciousness to a degree too, but no matter what, if your intent is there the fulfillment or whatever, will happen, is that it?
BRAHM: Indeed.
CATHY: And you become more in tune with your inner mechanisms, is that it?
BRAHM: It can function in that manner, just like you do not have to consciously realize that you are breathing to know that you are breathing. It occurs sometimes in spite of your best efforts to stop it.
(Laughter)
ELLEN: It’s very natural. (To Cathy) It’s like Amiir was saying to you, that your Tumold is your belonging and you sense in yourself that you’re a healer, that’s what you just DO, that’s what…
CATHY: Yes.
ELLEN: … it’s what you long to do, it’s what your intention is….but you’re also…you want to change, you want to make revolutionary change if you can and you tend to make that as your goal.
CATHY: Well, I don’t know….I tend to be a little revolutionary.
ELLEN: (Laughing) A little! But, you know …
CATHY: Projects, I want to do projects that…
ELLEN: He (Amiir) said that was indicative of your Vold alignment.
CATHY: Yeah, that makes sense.
BRAHM: And you do realize that, in your terms, you also hold Sumari affiliations, hence your sometimes rambunctious nature.
ELLEN: (Laughing)
CATHY: Yeah, sometimes!
BRAHM: We are being very diplomatic!
CATHY: Oh yes, you’re very diplomatic! No one can smite you for that! You win the contest.
BRAHM: Now there is perhaps something else that you might find of interest to you. You spoke earlier of your Tibetan healer dream.
CATHY: Uh-huh. The Lama. I call him Lama Doctor.
ELLEN: (Humorously) Not the animal! (Cathy and I both completely crack up)
[ELLEN'S NOTES: Earlier in the day on the subway ride home with Serge, Cathy and I had indulged in a long, involved bit of silliness, playing on the words "llama" and "lama." In fact, this joking reference and symbolism to both terms kept re-occurring all weekend long, up to and including on our plane trip home when we met a flight attendant of Peruvian Incan descent who wore llama earrings and spoke to us of her homeland and experiences with her local shaman.]
BRAHM: We do not believe he eats hay!
CATHY: (Giggling)
BRAHM: Now, in your dream experience it appears that this is an individual completely unrelated to you.
CATHY: Uh-huh.
BRAHM: What you may yet discover and perhaps this will guide you in that direction, is that in another focus, you are indeed such an individual.
CATHY: Okay.
BRAHM: You drew an energy already familiar to yourself TO you in the dream state in the only way you could have found acceptable at that moment.
CATHY: Right. Okay.
BRAHM: So that was YOU! You polished and modernized the individual, but this is a very ancient focus.
CATHY: A VERY ancient focus.
BRAHM: Indeed.
CATHY: It looked very modern, like say, a thousand years ago, in that period of Buddhism. So that’s a REAL ancient one?
BRAHM: Indeed.
CATHY: So I AM older than I thought!
(Laughter)
MARK: How old did you think?
CATHY: My mother lied to me!
BRAHM: Isn’t Oil of Olay wonderful?
CATHY: “Oil of Old Age!”
[Again, this is an instance where Brahm had picked up on our conversation, again on the subway. I had casually pointed to a poster for Oil of Olay and mentioned that I didn't like their line of products. Cathy referred to it as "oil of old age," which I found amusing.]
ELLEN: (Chuckling) He listens to everything!
CATHY: Even the part about the llamas!
BRAHM: Now, prior to the creation of the Bon religion…
CATHY: Oh wow, yeah.
BRAHM: …there was an even OLDER structure that suffered almost complete destruction by invasion, not unlike present day Tibetan society. What is considered the founder of the Bon religion came across information in the dream states about ancient documents in caves.
CATHY: Is that what they would have then considered the Terma2 tradition? You know, where they said that the Buddhas or higher beings or whatever, that they had actually plant these documents in certain places for, when the time is right, they will…
BRAHM: They do not necessarily plant the documents as they plant the seeds in the dreams to find documents that already exist from a prior, this prior culture,
CATHY: Ahhh!! So even before the Bon! This tradition is even older than I thought!
BRAHM: Indeed, so the apparent founder of the Bon tradition received transmission in the dream states from an individual that was a focus of his in that older system to find documents in caves that were utilized to try and safeguard SOME knowledge of the past in the face of its almost complete annihilation.
CATHY: Do you see any time in the near future….if the equivalent of archeologists will rediscover some of these?
BRAHM: It is possible, but many things will have to change politically.
CATHY: Yeah, no kidding.
BRAHM: That older system, we believe it is pronounced something along the lines of SHONG TEE.
CATHY: Zhang Tih and then it came into Zhang-Zhung with the Bon tradition?
BRAHM: After these documents were re-discovered that re-awakened that long lost knowledge, there had only been legends and hearsay, much like in The[National] Inquirer.
CATHY: Was it like a huge area, that civilization? Did it cover a lot of territory, like Asia, central Asia or whatever?
BRAHM: Indeed it did.
CATHY: So there must be a lot of documentation here and there.
BRAHM: In many caves. Some of these are documents that are not on paper, since these would have perished. And unfortunately, they have been attributed to aliens. They were in the form of discs, ceramic discs with alloys and compounds, almost never seen on the planet before.
CATHY: Wow. Do they go back…are they in any way related to what Seth talks about… the Lumanians, who lived in the caves in the Pyrenees area about a hundred thousand years ago? And they were like, so nonviolent that they actually couldn’t survive.
BRAHM: No.
CATHY: But they were highly, highly psychic and all?
BRAHM: No. These did not build tunnels that far, and at such times the Himalayas were not what they are today. They were barely large hills.
CATHY: So that would have been WAY long ago. You give so much. I guess you know that, Brahm!
BRAHM: There are many, many WONDERFUL things, even today in your world, that await discovery, BUT even Kris has hinted that this, that in many ways, so many of your people are NOT ready yet, have not yet evolved in that sense of the word, in terms of emotional maturity because the knowledge could easily, in an instant, in a volatile instant, be turned into a weapon.
CATHY: I guess that’s why the real high performance Qi Gong masters, and all the Asian masters take a disciple and test him like crazy, until they are ready to kick him up a notch because it can be used for destruction.
BRAHM: Indeed, imagine someone like the modern leader of Iran or North Korea acquire the knowledge of these things.
CATHY: Wouldn’t be good.
BRAHM: Indeed not. Therefore your own Selves are keeping close tabs, so to speak. There will come a day when many great discoveries will be made.
CATHY: Along the lines of information?
BRAHM: Indeed, that will transform your societies, but many of these things will not come about until a good portion of this Shift is set up already. And if you understand the nature of the so-called Shift, as Joseph has realized, it has to do with the individual.
CATHY: One by one.
BRAHM: It could even be hundreds by hundreds, but it occurs at the individual level.
CATHY: So the Entities and the Essences must be really busy these days, just getting us ready, right?
MARK: Always! Always! (Chuckling)
CATHY: They’re working 24-7.
MARK: Never a dull moment.
BRAHM: And yet, at another layer, this is already accomplished.
CATHY: Yeah, that’s the mind-blowing aspect….Did it work out okay?
BRAHM: That is for you to discover.
CATHY: (Laughing) You can’t give us any little hint?
BRAHM: The endings are endless! (To Mark) Now, do YOU have questions?
MARK: No, I don’t. I’m enjoying this. I’m in my element right now! I’m feeling really good about myself, and it’s really good to have the gang together. I’m just feeling really good!
ELLEN: The family.
BRAHM: Would you refer to that as the “Brahm-ily”?
(We all laugh appreciatively)
CATHY: This is a weird question, Brahm, but I guess you’ve had weird questions posed to you before.
BRAHM: You do not know the half of it!
CATHY: (Giggling) Have we been assigned to you since, let’s say, our origin? Are big teachers sort of like….as consciousness gets made or whatever way you put it….do we have (inaudible due to traffic noise) to big teachers when we’re ready? Like Seth and Brahm and Kris?
BRAHM: Where do you think these teachers come from? We have our own individuality. It is inviolate. Your have your own, but your needs are what awakens those so-called future aspects to come to you. So we are merely in a humble manner attempting to reflect back to you your own innate inner knowledge. And if we accomplish that in its most minute detail, we accomplish OUR own purposes.
CATHY: So, in a sense, like in the Buddhist structure, (unknown term) where they say in the prayer to become a Buddha so you can help others. And they swear to come back (inaudible due to traffic noise).
BRAHM: That is within that unique belief system and it functions very nicely for them.
CATHY: Yeah, it’s very nice.
BRAHM: The individual that returns may not necessarily be one hundred percent of the individual that left, but a small portion of that Essence.
CATHY: Like (unknown term) might not be all of who they were the last time around?
BRAHM: But enough to generate. This individual that you drew to yourself in the dream could be said to be a lama in the thirteenth heaven.
CATHY: Oh wow. I didn’t know they had that many.
BRAHM: This would be an exceptionally esoteric understanding for those that can adapt their system.
CATHY: Uh-huh. So my focus here, this lifetime, this body and so forth, has a direct link with that focus there?
BRAHM: At times yes. And you can call upon it. Utilize the Bridge of Aaronii.
CATHY: Okay.
BRAHM: Now what you may eventually discover on your own is that this individual focus has his own connections to other Essences.
CATHY: Oh, okay. In other words, he’s like a really big teacher of a lot?
BRAHM: In some small way. At the same time, the venues through which you can explore these ideas will lead you to discover so much more. The chief idea is to make some small effort to document your own journey in this way. You can ask Dr. Lama to show you different things.
[From this point audio was lost. There were only about two or three minutes left on the tape, and Mark believes the microphone pinned to Serge's shirt may have become disconnected. Fortunately, by this time, we were at the end of our Walk, nearly out of the park, and the sun had gone down.]
ENDNOTES
1 ELLEN’S NOTES: Concerning the reference to “lion energy:” among many of the devices I use on my personal path to enlightenment is the Native American concept of Totem Animal Medicine. Certain animals that appear to one in dreams and waking symbol form can be identified as part of one’s own “totem” and the exploration of this totem animal medicine can be very helpful in situating oneself upon one’s own particular path and focus intent. “Medicine” in this sense refers to a healing modality that includes not just healing of body, mind and spirit, but also brings personal power, strength and understanding into one’s life. In a private session with Kris about a year ago, he gave a thumb’s up to this particular type of exploration:
KRIS: Animal medicine represents (very deliberately) one layer of the maze of the Self. These are specific paths, and they do bring understanding, and there are other aspects to Self that would be interpreted by other cultures, but it does not mean to say it is less valid. On the contrary – the study of animal medicine in that specific manner – totem animals – can bring a GREAT understanding.
I had identified a few of my own animal totems within the past few years, the fox being a very strong one, but in November of last year, Kris pointed out to me that the lion was another totem of mine and quite a significant one. I was however, up until recently, denying the energies the lion had to offer me that were essentially a part of me that I was resisting. At the time Kris had identified the lion as totem for me, I’d had a number of dreams in which lions were either stalking or threatening me or I was trying to hide from them.
More recently I have begun to accept within myself my own strength and deep sense of personal authority, or what Kris/Brahm refers to as “honoring your Self.” This is part of lion medicine, as well as the sense of family, community, and cooperation that has become more and more important to me. Another aspect of lion medicine is the ability to act from a true sense of worth, which enables one to offer self-appreciation, which in turn inspires and encourages the same within others. This latter is what Brahm was referring to on our Walk, a gentle suggestion to me to begin working with this aspect of lion medicine.
2 ELLEN’S NOTES: Terma
“Terma” from the book: HIDDEN TEACHINGS OF TIBET, By Tulku Thondup Rinpoche…
“There have been many occassions in world history when scriptures and material objects have been discovered miraculously through the power of spirits, non-human beings and sometimes through psychic powers possessed by gifted human individuals. Termas are a kindred phenomenon. They are scriptures that have been deliberately concealed and discovered at successively appropriate times by realized masters through their enlightened power. Termas are theachings representing a most profound, authentic and powerful tantric form of Buddhist training. Hundreds of Tertons, the Discoverers of Dharma Treasures, have found thousands of volumes of scripture and sacred objects hidden in earth, water, sky, mountains, rocks and mind. By practicing these teachings, many of their followers have reached the state of full enlightenment, Buddhahood.
“Various schools of Buddhism in Tibet have Termas but the Nyingma school has the richest tradition. This school was established in Tibet in the ninth century by Guru Padmasambhava, and it is through the power of the wisdom mind of this saint and his enlightened disciples that the transmission of these esoteric teachings takes place. …” (p. 13)
A Private Session with Joe from Colorado
June 21, 2006
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Joe (Zeeturon)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on June 21, 2006
(Session begins at 8:02 P.M. EST.)
KRIS: Now, we trust that you are comfortable.
JOE: Yes.
KRIS: And we thank you for your consideration.
JOE: Thank you. Should I go ahead and start out with my questions?
KRIS: As you please.
JOE: Let’s see…I feel like I am of the orientation of common, and a thought focus. Am I?
KRIS: From the [Dead] Guy’s perspective, we do believe this is a fair assessment of your orientation.
JOE: OKAY…Let’s see, I have a three-part question about my other focuses: How many do I have (A) is on this Earth, or on another probable Earth where life was and is much easier, or (C) in all other worlds and dimensions?
KRIS: Now, we may ask you to repeat the question, firstly, for as is concerning other focuses of your Essence, you being one of the focuses, or if you so desire, an expression of Essence.
JOE: How many other focuses do I have on this Earth, first of all?
KRIS: Indeed. [Pause] Your Essence has 17 presently upon this particular reality; not all are necessarily in the same time frame as you.
JOE: OKAY. And what about other probable Earths, like the one where there is almost no desert?
KRIS: In those probabilities, or if you prefer, various other probabilities, there are 23, two being upon a world where there is much greenery and oceans.
JOE: Okay and the other 21?
KRIS: There are other expressions enjoying themselves in all of their various experiences upon different probable realities, one that interestingly enough is an continuation of what you would call a blend between Mayan and Aztec, high civilization, one that was never colonized, invaded and subjugated by the Spaniards or the Inquisition, that continued to flourish in those probabilities into a very high civilization indeed. Their world view is quite different from what you experience, but nonetheless, their value fulfillment is quite rich indeed.
JOE: What about other worlds and dimensions besides Earth, how many focuses?
KRIS: All told, we believe that the number 327 would be a fair approximation.
JOE: OKAY. Let’s see…I’ve heard it’s possible for a focus to change Essence, or be part of more than one Essence. Would either one of those apply to me?
KRIS: A focus or Expression of Essence would not necessarily be able to change Essences. It is not as if Essence is like a shirt that you can change from one game to the next.
JOE: OKAY. So I guess the answer is probably no then, right?
KRIS: But before you catalog these things in black and white and very rigid terminology, do understand that it is also possible for other Essences to participate in the development and the unfolding experiences of focuses, therefore the source could itself simply accommodate another Essence energy, for the benefit of enjoying the shared communications and creations. This would not impact the focus in a direct manner, but could provide an enhancement at the subjective levels, and that could then create an enhancement at outcome of the focus level. But it would not be an invasion. Do you follow?
JOE: Yes.
KRIS: The focus might even enjoy a different perspective on balance, as well as an influx of energies.
JOE: Yes, I’ve thought I would enjoy that, I think, something different. I think I maybe have had that happen.
KRIS: Essences do not block off their creative expressions as if it were chattel. Does that make sense to you?
JOE: Yes.
KRIS: It is not that the focus is under lock and key, or a kind of psychological chastity belt. On the contrary, Essences do share with greater facility than any human focus expressions can comprehend, because there are no divisions in the terms you understand of privacy. There is a much greater leeway and give-and-take in the sharing.
JOE: OKAY, yes, I have heard this. I have another question, what is the intent of my focus now, and is it to become much more successful, and to expand more in the up and coming years of my life, here?
KRIS: These are not specifically intent. These are attributes of your concentration. Your, as well as other people’s intent, from our point of view, is not limited to one or two words, but is a rather complex matrix. You may have varying grades or layers of intent, often one nested within the other. From our perspective, you have maintained an interest in the, how do we say, the mechanics of consciousness for a very long time. Does this make sense to you?
JOE: Yes, and also I’ve felt like my life has been quite a bit of failure, and I need to earn some money to really get my life really going here right now.
KRIS: Your main intent is to understand the mechanics and also the dynamics of thoughts and energies. This may have a broad, very large, and open-ended interpretation.
JOE: I guess I would think that I would have to become more successful to understand the successful part of consciousness.
KRIS: That is again related to your own views and beliefs. Even an individual who may live in an tin shack in a shanty town in a third world country may consider his life quite successful without any or very little of the modern amenities and accouterments of social living as you understand it. So the values associated with success and successful are entirely relevant to you as an individual, to the culture and society that you grow up in, because you would have chosen that culture, that society, even that family and its or their joint background out of which you will formulate the manner in which you will explore your intent. Do you follow that? (Note 1)
JOE: I’m not sure. I’m probably going to have to listen to that again.
KRIS: Indeed and that is the purpose of these kinds of conversations.
JOE: I guess my question is I feel like I’ve been confined in a small area. Will I get to expand in a larger area before I disengage from this Earth?
KRIS: That may be your present perceptions. There may be many, many more things than the boxed-in views that you often operate within and we wish presently to point this out to you that you do have an tendency to very quickly catalog and label events and situations as either one thing or another, and it cannot be one thing if it is the other, and the notion that makes it even more difficult for you is that things that are more gray and shaded than black and white expressions represent a particular challenge to you. You do like to have all your cards laid out on the table and expressed very clearly to you, but very often, the very nature of reality can blow away your carefully laid out house of cards. Do you follow that? (Note 2)
JOE: Yes.
KRIS: And this represents a challenge to you, and this is also part of your intent to understand the mechanics and dynamics of reality creation.
JOE: So, I might understand consciousness, or the actual world, or both, or what, here?
KRIS: Even an small understanding of consciousness can give you great insight into the nature of reality, but do keep in mind that it is literally and very clearly impossible to understand all of consciousness because there is literally no beginning nor end to consciousness. It merely is.
JOE: I thought I might like to try to experience beyond this lifetime.
KRIS: You may, but you will also benefit greatly by understanding THIS lifetime.
JOE: Yes, I understand that the other stuff will always be there, but this life will not always be here.
KRIS: That is correct. What you experience in this lifetime is most valuable, but it is not the only life at your disposal, though it is the one you are focused in. Does that make sense to you?
JOE: Yes, but it seems the veil is VERY HEAVY between the other focuses and me. (Note 3)
KRIS: It may indeed appear this way, but you do have to understand that the more an individual would insist upon a very clear-cut black and white understanding of the most complex of consciousness, actually limits your abilities in that respect. By allowing yourself to simultaneously delve both within and outside of the box allows you much more leeway than deciding either you will be in the box or out of the box.
JOE: Okay, one other aspect, I sometimes have had a hard time when I’m struggling to survive, I feel like I have time for nothing else, and so, if I have enough money and don’t have to worry about survival, I can think more and expand more.
KRIS: Very often, that is a correct assumption, however that is still within the realms of belief structures and very necessary. There are a variety of ways that you can make your situation different. May we ask your physical age?
JOE: 48.
KRIS: Indeed. What type of work are you aiming for?
JOE: Okay, I’m aiming for writing, or I have internet sales, but I seem to have a blockage in getting that [latter] started.
KRIS: What kind of sales?
JOE: Well, I have the [copyrighted] paper I wrote about “The Anthropic Multi-verse,” but also I don’t know what to sell that would be good for me to do.
KRIS: What kind of work or career background do you have?
JOE: Oh boy, kind of a mixture. I’ve been unemployed quite a while, but I had some really amazing inspiration for this paper that I wrote called “The Anthropic Mult-iverse,” about big bang theory.
KRIS: Indeed. However, what is your work and career background?
JOE: OKAY, I worked in an optical lab, after I was in the Marines. I went to school, tried to become an x-ray technician, but I failed at that, I didn’t finish that, the internship there. And that’s pretty much it, I guess.
KRIS: [long pause] Apart from focusing upon the sale of this paper, as if it will bring you sufficient income, what would interest you, in terms of employment?
JOE: Well, let’s see, I would like to sell stuff on the internet that I can do from home.
KRIS: And what would you do from home that you can then sell on the internet?
JOE: Oh, OKAY, they have what they call drop shipping, where a company can ship something to someone, and I could have a website that would sell their stuff.
KRIS: And you have looked into these opportunities?
JOE: I have some, but I seem to have some sort of blockage on that. In fact, I had a dream last night where the elevator doors closed before I could go in.
KRIS: And why would you assume that because of this dream, you may not pursue investigating these opportunities?
JOE: I thought that maybe there was some belief in the dream that would hold me back.
KRIS: Now, if this was an indication, then you might benefit by finding the means to bring these beliefs to the forefront of your awareness, your conscious mind, and find the means by which you can no longer subscribe to those kinds of beliefs, but instead create a different set of beliefs along those lines that would lead you more into a desired position. Do you follow?
JOE: Well, I sort of follow, it’s like I can feel something holding me back, but I can’t really feel what that thing is.
KRIS: How do you, or how would you guess, on a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being the highest, 0 being the least, where would you guess your fear of failure is situated? Take a wild guess.
JOE: Maybe, about a 7 or 8.
KRIS: Indeed. [Pause] And in your opinion, how would you go about changing this so that your fear of success actually becomes the joy of success?
JOE: I’m sorry, you said fear of success just now, but you had said fear of failure before, or do I have both?
KRIS: Indeed. It is very, very often those who entertain fear of failure also have an equal fear of success.
JOE: OKAY, so what was your question, again?
KRIS: How do you think you would be able to make the alterations so that instead of fear of failure or fear of success, you actually entertain the joy of success?
JOE: Well, let’s see, I guess first I’d have to understand why I am afraid of success or failure.
KRIS: Indeed.
JOE: And, well, let’s see, I can understand fearing failure, that you fear something that, like I say, I see failure as being bad, you know, and so that’s why I’d fear it. To me, fear of failure seems logical and fear of success seems illogical. (Note 4)
KRIS: But you are dealing with emotions and feelings, and those fears are not logical. It would be tantamount to trying to cure a fever by working out a mathematical equation, and it would simply not apply.
[JOE'S NOTES: I realized after the session that I'd gone on to the next question before Kris had really answered my question about fear of failure and success. I suppose this to be denial or obscuring, on a deeply hidden level.]
JOE: OKAY, let’s see, I have one more question about some dreams I’ve had. Let’s see if I can find it around here. [I search for what I'd written, and then find it.] Oh, here we go. I had a dream pair. In the first one, I was navigating probable realities, which I perceived to be much like connecting the jacks of a stereo system. The second one was the same as the first one, except that I was aware of being Joe, and I had an image of myself as I am in real life, which was not in the first one. I was not aware of the contents of probabilities in either dream. I interpret these dreams to mean, this is going to sound weird, that my Essence in the second dream allowed and is allowing my ego to navigate the future probabilities, and make choices I would make, unlike the past, the first dream, which was navigated by Zeeturon. Is this true?
KRIS: We believe that those interpretations might be hastily drawn up and incomplete. There is definitely the sense of probabilities, but do understand that even your present physical experiences are themselves probabilities. Your physical world, your physical life, your present here and now, is itself another kind of probability. You are intentionally focused within it. And it may indeed benefit you greatly by concentrating your energies, your awareness, your attention, with and into what is necessary in this particular life expression in this moment, in this here and now and working out your challenges, even though there might be other probabilities where your ideas of challenges might even be nonexistent. There are quite likely other probabilities where your present challenges would be compared to a lovely Sunday drive compared to some of the other challenges in other probabilities.
JOE: That’s kind of hard to understand, but I could understand myself wanting to take on other probabilities to understand more easy stuff, but a very long length of time kind of stuff.
KRIS: That is a possibility, but what is more important, and we cannot stress this enough to your lovely self, that your present life, your present world, your present here and now is also a probability, and it requires your full attention. As you have stated yourself, there is a need for you to become at least financially stable, at least able to support yourself so that the immediacy of survival is no longer a primary concern, but one that allows you to explore consciousness with less stress.
JOE: OKAY, I should ask again, is there a probable self in my future that would have advice for me along those lines?
KRIS: Indeed. That now is more grounded, and our humblest of advice, firstly, is that though there are definitely certain psychological benefits in exploring consciousness as you have been doing so, you also have other needs that are more pressing than other issues. Thus, in the very latest few sessions that have been transcribed, we offer two powerful suggestions. One is the Bridge of Aaronii. The second one is what we refer to as Eidurru, the Enchantress of Dreams, as a means to bring to your attention through the dream states some of these other probabilities and even what you call future selves to share with you insights in the dynamics of your present belief structures and the ways with which you can transform your present situation from one of struggle to one of at least comfortable ease. It will not occur overnight, but well worth the endeavor.
JOE: OKAY, also, I’m wondering, I guess, is my living situation here holding me back, or is it neutral, or?
KRIS: What is your present living arrangement?
JOE: Well, let’s see, I live with my father, so I guess in some ways it’s beneficial, but in some ways it might be holding me back. I’m not sure. (Note 5)
KRIS: At presently, you do not have the means to live out on your own. This has to be taken into consideration. If there are situations that present some friction between yourself and your parent, then perhaps the two of you can hold a friendly heart-to-heart discussion on how there might be ways to enhance and benefit both of you. Does that make sense to you?
JOE: Yes. I think we already have had most things worked out pretty well.
KRIS: Indeed.
JOE: OKAY, I guess one final thing about other places, and then I’ll stay with here. It sounds like you’re saying that I’ll probably get to go to the Other Place after I disengage from here, is that correct?
KRIS: In conscious terms you may, even within this lifetime, experience what we would simply call snippets, small insights into the development and unfolding of some of these other lives. Once you disengage from this physical reality, you may decide upon entirely different things. We believe that you are what is called an final focus.
JOE: OKAY, yes, I have felt that way.
KRIS: And though there are many occasions when you feel as if the world might even be too difficult to cope with, realize that this is a perception that you have chosen, and once you choose a perception, you begin to experience it in three-dimensional ways. It becomes projected onto what you would call physical matter and start to take shape, so that you can three-dimensionally live the dynamics of your inner perception.
JOE: I’ve had some things which I HAVE solved, like the thing of the sexual desperation of youth, and I have solved that one now. (Note 6)
KRIS: And, how did this come about?
JOE: Well, it was the thing of wanting a woman real bad, you know, not being able to find one, you know the way young men are.
KRIS: Indeed.
JOE: But, my question is, if I could solve that one, I should be able to solve this one, the thing about the finances, also. (Note 7)
KRIS: We may offer you an small suggestion, that you visit a website. Do you have pen and paper handy?
JOE: Yes.
KRIS: We will spell it out for you: E-M-O-F-R-E-E dot com. emofree.com
JOE: OKAY.
KRIS: Our humble suggestion to you is to read the materials on this website, to learn how to use the modality for yourself, and to engage the changes that you wish to make. First and foremost with this modality, we appeal to all of yourself to look towards a greater acceptance of self, without the necessary pigeonholing, nor black and white terminologies, to allow yourself the freedom to experience the many shades and layers of grays within life.
JOE: OKAY.
KRIS: You do have much to offer, and there is or are many things holding you back, but what is holding you back may not necessarily be what you think it is, but if you begin at least at ground zero, where you are in the here and now, you may make some great strides. Do you follow?
JOE: [pause] Yes, I guess that brings up a question, what am I supposed to do or important stuff that I’m supposed to do still, is it my theory, or something else?
KRIS: Remember that theories come and go, and they represent a point of view only, and not necessarily an absolute truth or a revelation, even though to your mind it may appear as such, because it indeed contains new energy and new perspective. Now, we believe that you do have some abilities with writing.
JOE: Yes.
KRIS: In order to complement this, you also need to develop and enhance your people skills and we believe it could be difficult, because for one reason or another, people may also frighten you. (Note
JOE: Is the thing I’m supposed to do going to need people skills, or writing skills, or what?
KRIS: They could. It could be said that they will go hand in hand. Mingling with and developing friendships with other human beings automatically enhances the creative flow of ideas. It enhances your personality, and these in return flow into your abilities to write, and your abilities to write, in many respects are dependent upon your abilities to share of humanity with other people. In the thirteenth century, in Rome, you were a man of letters, more or less a kind of scribe for an high official in the Catholic Church, and you yourself eventually worked your way up that echelon. You had very elaborate vocabulary, diplomacy, finesse, social skills, polishing. You were even sent on ambassador-like missions to other countries. You were also, underneath the highly polished social veneer, you were a bit of a scoundrel, and you lined your purse with the coins you convinced especially old widows to give to you.
JOE: [Winces] Oh!
KRIS: And you, for the longest time, did not necessarily have any remorse for this, because you had convinced yourself that they were being kind and generous, even though you knew that you used words and manipulations to convince them to be kind to you.
JOE: I’m surprised I would ever have done that. I wouldn’t have thought that.
KRIS: Ah, but herein lies the key: near your golden years, you developed a conscience and you began to give back to the poor many of the items and the wealth you had accumulated during your younger days as you realized, facing your mortality and your death, that none of this was of any use to you, and you had settled some of your accumulated fortunes into orphanages. So in many respects, you sought to redeem your own actions and in doing so, recognized that your life was indeed a sharp contrast between your public facade and your private manipulations, and in so doing reconciled many of the challenges that you were struggling with. Do you follow that?
JOE: Yes
KRIS: When you passed from that life, in so many words, you reflected for some time upon the possible meanings of your life. You gave this GREAT thought and concluded that, even though on the surface it looked as if your life was filled with inaccuracies and incongruities, overall there was an even GREATER purpose to that life, to discover the power with reconciliations as you had to grow with it within the belief structure of the Church and of that lifetime. In many respects, that lifetime was indeed a great success. It afforded you to look at different perspectives and the potential for balance and harmony within your psyche. Do you understand?
JOE: Yes. Does that still affect me now, that lifetime?
KRIS: Not in those specific terms, but there is within you still the need for balance and harmony. Do you sense that?
JOE: Yes.
KRIS: Now, if you read the material that we have given in late 2003 and early 2004 on what we call the Nine Sisters of Consciousness, you might indeed find not only the door, but the keys, too, an overall sense of balance and harmony within your being.
JOE: OKAY, let’s see, I have a question about my other lifetimes, I guess. Will you help put me in better contact with my future self or my other focuses?
KRIS: It is possible. Earlier on we mentioned recent sessions where we discussed the Bridge of Aaronii. It is a psychological bridge that can be utilized by suggestion and with focusing upon these types of dreams, you can allow a portion of your consciousness to experience the perspectives of future selves, and then come back with some of those perspectives, even if you do not consciously know or remember clearly any of the dreams. It is not necessary one hundred percent of the time to understand everything in a conscious, rational manner. Do you understand? (Note 9)
JOE: Yes, but…
KRIS: For instance, you went to school to learn how to read and write, correct?
JOE: Yes.
KRIS: However, please be aware that before you went to school to learn how to read and write according to a prescribed method, no one taught you how to see, or how to hear, nor even how to think. They may have taught you what to think, and when to think it, but no one taught you how to think. You discovered this process on your own, correct?
JOE: Yes.
KRIS: Unconsciously, then, with that utilization of the word, there are many things that you knew how to do without anyone showing you, correct?
JOE: Yes. I guess my question about my other focuses, why have I felt…I’ve felt as though I’m a singular focus quite a bit.
KRIS: Indeed, that is correct. You may not necessarily [have] developed a vocal capacity to become a singer in this lifetime beyond the bathroom or the shower, but… even though other focuses may have developed those capacities beyond your own abilities. So we are therefore suggesting that you utilize the material on the Bridge of Aaronii and though you may not specifically remember any unique detail within those dreams after you make your suggestion, or you may, but even if you do not, it does not mean that you have had no experiences whatsoever. Do you understand?
JOE: Yes.
KRIS: In the same way that you do not necessarily see the wind, but you know it exists by the rustling of the leaves or the bending of the branches, and so on and so forth, correct?
JOE: Yes.
KRIS: So though you might not necessarily recall any specific details, eventually, the information that you gather will start to seep into your awareness, and we also strongly recommend to not immediately dissect, catalog, label, and pigeonhole any intuitive information in any way, shape, or form, but to let it grow and watch it grow.
JOE: I had thing when I was meditating, there, I was in a state where things were not black and white.
KRIS: What do you think that means to you?
JOE: Just that…oh, shoot, how do I say…that I was in sort of a different mode of thought not all black and white.
KRIS: That is correct. Once you begin to box in your own thinking into drastic black and white tones, life can become more difficult, though that, too, is a choice that you can own. There are times when such choices are not always entirely to your benefit. Knowing that you can also change your choices, you can choose to be unhappy, moderately unhappy, ever-so-slightly unhappy, slightly happy, moderately happy, more happy, and very happy. Pretend that it is on a sliding scale and you decide where you want to situate yourself and you simply choose, for instance you could begin your day with a motto such as: “Today, I choose to make my adventures, my experiences with my creations, advantageous. I will choose to learn from them as I go along, regardless of the outcomes.” Does that make sense to you?
JOE: Well, let’s see, sort of. I think I read a session like that, but it’s hard to do that if there’s bad things happening.
KRIS: Regardless, even if so-called bad things happen, you can find the creative means that it still becomes advantageous, even if only to you alone in the whole universe. Perhaps, even in the darkest moment a small speck of light will BRIGHTEN your day, and begin to work from that point.
JOE: OKAY, I’ll…try that. (Note 10)
KRIS: Indeed. Now, may we inquire as to the time?
JOE: Let’s see, it’s about 7:05. [Colorado time]
KRIS: Indeed. Do you have a final question?
JOE: Oh, let’s see…yes, I guess I do, about the families, and I was wondering if you could give me the six-pack thing, or maybe just the families?
KRIS: We will give you two. Sumari and Gramada.
JOE: [Surprised] Oh. Is there any involvement of the new family with me?
KRIS: You have a leaning toward that energy, but it is not a direct connection. You can say it is a neighbor.
JOE: OKAY.
KRIS: Now, with this, we thank you deeply for your consideration, and for your willingness to explore beyond the boundaries of your present knowledge, and we return OUR Joseph to you.
JOE: Thank you.
KRIS: You are most welcome, and be blessed.
(Session ends.)
JOE’S ENDNOTES:
(1) I’ve heard of that being the case, but I don’t see a possibility of that for myself, not having had the “advantage” of being born into that environment, with all of the pliability and adaptability inherent in the very young mind from birth. I may, however, have a focus like that.
(2) I have at times seen my life to be much too polarized in black and white, especially in my childhood, but I’ve always seen my self to be much more of an un-polarized gray than my life.
(3) I now realize that my Essence chose a very heavy veiling or forgetting of my other focuses, and on the other hand, a very thin veiling of my future self, of the time period after I disengage from Earth, a being having much more powerful and clearer energy than I now experience. (See my topic, “Energy Thinly Veiled,” in the Conscious Creation Forum.) I’ve realized that thinking about that future self has distracted me from dealing with THIS life, and that I’d been EXPORTING actualization-energy to there, but it’s so energy-rich there that I can IMPORT actualization-energy from there to here, which won’t distract me.
(4) I had somewhat of a “meltdown” here: I would not have thought it possible for the subconscious mind to so thoroughly confuse the conscious mind if I had not experienced it for myself. The jumbled first sentence of the paragraph above actually was said, before I edited it, with even worse un-clarity! In spite of my usual serious bent, I do not take myself too seriously in this case. In fact, I find it kind of funny (the hemming and hawing, not the subject matter being discussed) now that I look back on it. Like the song says, “Everybody plays the fool sometimes. There’s no exception to the rule.”
(5) I’ve lived with my father for several years, with money I had saved up from the U.S. Navy Reserve, when I was called up for active duty in Japan for a year. That money is nearly depleted. I wouldn’t have done so if I hadn’t felt that I could write my paper.
(6) I’ve left this in to serve as an example of something I’ve solved, and I don’t mean by having a steady supply of women, since that cannot be guaranteed, but that I CAN guarantee myself not to be desperate, since I’ve been able to convert the NEED into the WANT, being older and a little wiser, and farther from those desperate teen years helps, too.
(7) Obviously, I cannot solve the financial problem in this way; since finances or something to trade for food and shelter are our livelihood, they are as necessary to life as the air we breathe.
(8) I haven’t felt people to be frightening to me, but my problem is that I’m so much different from everyone else. Viva la difference is fine, if you’re not the one out of 100 who feels like the other 99 are greatly more similar to each other that you are to any of them!
(9) The day after the session, I took a long nap after lunch, for about two hours, and for the whole time, I was having very rapid impressions from other lifetimes, like downloading dreams, many hundreds of them.
(10) I’ve had much better results telling myself the following, about things that would appear to be bad and/or disadvantageous: “it is what it is, no judgments.” This really works! I can really TRUTHFULLY say this to myself of most things in life, in a way in which I cannot do in nearly as thorough a way when I try to tell myself that all things that I experience are advantageous, as well. However, I’ve had good results with most small things to convince myself that they’re advantageous, despite appearances. It’s all so new to me that I haven’t advanced very far into bigger things. Furthermore, it’s easy to forget and lapse into habitual thinking, but then you catch yourself and can rethink it, if your feelings haven’t gone too far in the “wrong” direction.

