Remembrance
February 19, 2006
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Ellen Gilbert (Kwaa’Ji)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on February 19, 2006
Roll Call: Serge, Mark, John, Myrna, Paul, Jo, Peter, Karin, Ester, Gail, Carter, Carl, Ellen, Cathy, Emmy, Anya, Ella, Tom, Steven (D.C.) and Steve L. (Santa Barbara)
[Detailed roll call at bottom of transcript.]
(7:45 PM session begins)
KRIS: Now we are glad that you are together once again and we trust that your joint experiences will continue to bear fruit and that you learn above all things to enjoy the fruits of your experiences. And we are equally as joyous to be here with our Toronto friends! Now, of course, not everyone is privy to the events of the weekend1, but not everyone need be privy to those events, the discussions and the participations, to understand that you are all creatures of action, that you are all individuals who take great pleasure in making things happen.
As such, we would like to continue on that vein and perhaps assist in making things happen with you in the sense that, as you discover more and more of the resources and tools available to you, as you make practical use of them, so the boundaries of your imagination are stretched ever more, as is the idea that you have about yourselves.
And that is what is important, is to break down limiting barriers you have concerning yourselves, and open wide avenues of experiences, experiments, and their physical manifestation. During our visit with and in Janaki’s and Rosalie’s inviting and warm home, we expressed information and material that not only stretched the boundaries of Joseph’s, Janaki’s, Rosalie’s, Philip’s, and other people’s minds and imaginations, but that it will continue to do so and we are intending to continue doing just that as those evenings progress.
And you are an important factor in the creation of those events. Not in the sense that it is you who create who we are, or what we speak about, but more so in the sense that you play an important role in assisting the information and the material to flow freely2. And as it does so, its quality expands, its depth reaches new definitions, and as a result, your own growth, your own expansion of consciousness and your own expansion and awareness as a result is more refined and tangible for you.
It becomes less and less a mental and intellectual process, and acquires definite physical and tangible qualities at very practical levels; and this is where it needs to take root. As such, the weekend’s experiences – the dramatizations, the sketches, the role-playing, the shifting in perspectives – each and every presentation, each and every aspect of the weekend itself was geared to invite you to open up to the tangible, practical aspect of the materials up to and including the chants as they definitely grounded your being and allowed you to understand, at least in part, that even your physical expression indeed can carry a great deal of energy for you personally as well as a group.
And again, even though some of you were not at the weekend, certainly we thank your thoughts for also having been part of the processes of the events of the weekend. During our various presentations, including of the weekend, we provided different kinds of guided visualizations and meditations, some chanting, and a variety of exercises that hopefully provided you all with tools and resources that can be used outside of the weekend’s events, in your homes with your own practices and spirituality.
Thus we would like then to continue with another gentle guided exercise, and though it may appear to you rather simple, again we highly recommend to not underestimate its purpose or effects, even on a long term. Thus we suggest that you sit in a relaxed position, as comfortable as you can be. You may close your eyes, if that is more conducive for you, or leave them open, as you wish.
Allow yourselves to breathe deeply and exhale as deeply and slowly, relaxing the body’s own rhythm’s, welcoming a state of well-being, and as you continue to inhale deeply and slowly, and exhale just as deeply and slowly, allow your body’s processes to relax and slow down to the degree it uses for deep sleep, whilst your mind and awareness is deeply focused on the sound of our voice.
Your minds remain clear and alert, but your body relaxes into a gentle deep rhythm, releasing all tension and stress and actually using both the sound of our voice and the relaxation itself and any ambient sounds to sharpen your attention and awareness. And utilizing the gentle, rhythmic pattern of your ribcage expanding and contracting with each of your breaths, allow yourselves to recognize the wave-like design of your inhalation and exhalation.
And as this wave-like pattern is clear in your mind, further allow yourselves to flow with those waves, so that it is easy for you to pretend, to imagine, to act as if the wave-like patterns of your breathing allow you to leave behind awareness of your physical form and concentrate your attention on that rhythmic wave pattern, expanding that wave beyond the very room that you are in, beyond the house that you are in, or building, continuing the expansions and ripples of those waves for you to notice similar rhythmic, wave-like patterns of energy in the environment.
Whether it is from other human beings, trees, perhaps even the Earth itself as it has a resonance, wave-like pattern, and continue reaching out in your wave to take into consideration wave-like energy patterns of other life forms, including the planet, the Earth, perhaps even expanding towards other celestial bodies, the moon, other planets, the sun. And from that position, allow yourself to deeply resonate with the energetic wave-like patterns of your entire solar system, from the sun at its center to the outer peripheries, even past Pluto.
Take a moment to resonate with the deep wave-like, pulse-like energy that sustains the entire solar system. And from where you are, pretend that you can actually gather together and concentrate that energy into a laser-like beam that you direct specifically at your physical form where you know it is, and allow that beam of energy to flow into the form of your body so that your physical form is nourished and nurtured with energies and gently allow yourself to follow that beam of energy towards your own body and allow the physical body, the beam of energy and you to resonate together so that you and your physical form absorb all of the benefits that energy may impart to you.
Allow the beam of energy to be released back into the depths of the cosmos, and gently begin again to take full awareness of your physical form and if there are any ailments, symptoms, or any such communications that need to be addressed, allow the energy that you have just directed to your physical form and nurtured and nourished it with, to go to those necessary body parts and create a deep resonance, vibration if you like, to bring relief and healing to that part of the body.
See the area affected as being filled with that energy, being transformed, as well as what the symptom, or communication was about to also be addressed by you with the energy so that you are congruent. And now gradually focus your awareness, your concentration, on your fingers, your toes, so that by the count of three you will be fully aware and awake in your room and your space. One, wiggle those toes and those fingers. Two, take a deep breath and return to your normal body awareness, and three, come back to your states, fully awake in your body. And take a small break.
(Break begins at 8:11)
During the break, Paul played the recording that he, Jo, Peter and Karin made of a song that was created during one of the workshop exercises on the previous Sunday. On that day Kris had us break up into small groups and instructed us to imagine that we were all focus personalities of one Essence, to decide what each one of us believed our focus intent was and to then compile our separate intents into a collective ESSENCE intent. Each group was then to present to the rest of the company a skit, song, dance, dramatization – or whatever we wished – that expressed our Essence intent.
My group consisted of Peter, Jo, Steve L., Anya, Bob, and myself. We each quickly shared what we felt our own life intents were, and I scribbled the list down on paper, none of us yet knowing how we were going to present it. Peter suggested that he could sing out our various intents, and the rest of us could sing back, echo-like – hopefully in harmonization – each line that Peter sang. Serge walked by at that moment, caught my eye and held up two fingers – shit! Two minutes?! I took the paper over to Peter, he quickly skimmed the intents that I’d listed, folded it up, saying he knew just what he wanted to do, and we got up and just…winged it. Peter sang out each line, some of which he’d nicely improvised himself, and the rest of us just echoed the lines back. Simple, but very fun.
The result was rather a hit to my utter surprise. As we walked back to our seats, a number of people were singing or humming the lines themselves. Thus the song “We Are Essence” was born! I joked to Paul, who was also singing it, that he ought to go home and record it. Little did I know he’d do just that!
The recording they played for us during this teleconference was a greatly enhanced rendition of course, with the accompaniment of Peter’s fantastic electric violin playing, and both Karin and Jo lending vocal talent. We all clapped and cheered loudly when it was over3.
ELLEN: That was awesome!
ANYA: Yeah, I spaced out! I felt like I was back at the presentation at the workshop!
ELLA: (Laughing) That’s what I thought! It sounded also like a combination of that meditation Kris just gave us, also – very wave-like patterns. That was interesting.
PETER: We will get it out to you. You all get it on CD. We will send it to you.
ELLA: Whose was the female voice?
PETER: That was Karin and Jo, both.
ELLA: Ah! I thought I heard Jo there!
ELLEN: Oh! I thought I’d heard Jo too!
ELLA: It was a nice combination of the high and low voices, and the deep music and the violin. That was awesome.
KARIN: It was very, very great to work together with Paul and Jo and we thank them both that we could stay here and enjoy it and make this song!
PETER: Yes, we did it with Paul at his studio here.
ELLEN: A true jam session, huh?
(Laughter)
JO: Ellen helped write the original lyrics – because we used your notes, Ellen!
ELLEN: (Laughing) Oh, I think that is so awesome! That just blows me away.
PETER: I’ve still got the original! (Peter and Jo are referring to the paper I’d scribbled our intents on)
ELLEN: (Jokingly) Yeah, you’d better frame it!
ELLA: That song was born during the workshop, right?
ELLEN: Yeah, we busted our butts trying to get it together in time!
ELLA: I remember you doing it, but of course, when it’s recorded, it sounded even more poignant.
ELLEN: (Mock serious) It was poignant, wasn’t it?
ELLA: Yes, I have to tell you, I enjoyed it when you did the presentation, but I didn’t know actually who wrote the words. I thought maybe Peter already had that song.
PETER: No, it was created at that moment at the seminar.
ELLEN: It was created by our collective Essence…. (Humorously) Which we formulated together at that very moment!
ELLA: You unlocked your passions.
CATHY: Uno Essence.
ELLEN: We are “Uno Essence,” Cathy said.
ELLA: (Chuckling) Okay!
ANYA: Peter, maybe you quoted briefly from that song you gave me, that was almost like a gift – I never knew what the tune was, that my Essence name came from, so when you guys were singing that, it was just so, so special to me.
ELLA: You mean at lunch?
ANYA: At lunch, yeah.
ELLA: Yeah, that was cool!
ANYA: Yes, people started turning heads!4
ELLEN: Sounds like another track for the CD!
PETER: We are sending this new song to you all. You’ll get it by post and you can put it in your CD players. You’ll get really good sound! We made good sound in Paul’s studio.
ELLA: Even over the phone it sounded good.
STEVE L.: It’s going to the top of the charts!
ELLEN: (Laughing) The thrill never ends!
(Laughter and Kris returns.)
(Kris returns at 8:21)
KRIS: Now we do wish to thank our wonderful musicians for their lovely creation that extends to everyone who participated and is presently part of the experience, for without the ears to hear the lovely music there is perhaps not much music to hear, thus, our appreciation for your lovely creations, which leads into our next segment.
We would ask that you contemplate of what it means to have remembrance of Essence. Does it mean that somehow or other you no longer have to pay attention to your physical form, nor do the laundry or take out the garbage? Does it mean that, somehow or other, you will be able to create anything that you put your mind to? What exactly does remembering Essence have to do with your reality?
The materials we have given over the last few sessions up to and including this evening, including the workshop, as we have suggested are meant to provide you with some tools and resources to begin the process of awakening that remembrance. It is indeed a process that moves from one stage to another including varying states that can even include conflicts, disagreements, and so on5.
There is a popular idea that once you begin to remember, then somehow or other, magically like Dorothy landing in Oz, everything is wonderful, the streets are paved with gold, the munchkins dance your praises, and that somehow or other the whole effect of physical reality is somehow no longer relevant. And we wish to assure that on the contrary the relevance of physical reality and the material world is enhanced that much more, but there will not be any munchkins dancing and singing on yellow brick roads. However, the process of remembering gives you from your physical vantage point, a clearer understanding of your abilities and of being able to work with and within the belief systems that much more effectively.
You might not be able to magically manifest gold bars out of thin air, but you would certainly be able to appreciate and honor the creations that stem forth from the depths of your being, as well as renew your sense of wonderment and enchantment with that physical imagery you call your physical body: yourself – but that much more – which will include a great appreciation for the processes you engage at those deeper layers of self that flow freely within the various frameworks of reality within the concepts of your Essence-hood.
With a deep appreciation of the Source of your being, as part of whom and what you are – but in very tangible terms – which would include a deep awareness of the life processes, challenges and intentions of the various Expressions of Essence that may express and display themselves and interact with and within different historical and geographical frameworks within different eras and timeframes of human experience.
And as the process continues to unfold, you may indeed begin to have clearer recall of the reasons you chose unique challenges in your present life, or any other life, including why you have chosen a specific awareness and expression in your present physical form with an understanding of the love and the passion and the vitality and the exuberance you invested in the loving expression of the one Essence you are.
And as you continue that progressive remembrance, you might very well be capable of putting into perspective other experiences pertinent to some of your other Essence bodies or Essence forms – which are themselves all still Essence, but simply various compositions within that great symphony of being – meaning that remembering Essence is not only remembering only one process, but multiple Essence perspective of a multi-dimensional structure6.
And as the process continues, you might even be led to explore how the ‘All That Is’ is relevant to you as a multi-dimensional expression OF that ‘All That Is’. And as you continue on that journey of remembrance, living recollection, however minute, may lead you to want to explore entire species of ‘All That Is’. And as strange as it may sound to you, there are indeed various kinds, and many kinds of ‘All That Is’, and yet they are still ALL ‘‘All That Is”. The ‘‘All That Is” are themselves multitudes of entities almost beyond comprehension, but they have a name, they are a unique species of mega-consciousness. We have called them the Uguur7.
And that concept is as far removed from your present understandings of the workings of consciousness in some humble manner as you are from the perspective of the cells that compose your physical body as a great being of energy that furnishes fuel – living dynamic energy – that makes the body function as your temporary residence and expression within your journey in this plane of existence. We are discussing this, bringing this information to enable you to stretch the boundaries of your perceptions and perspectives that much further in such a manner that you may indeed reflect upon the great majestic sweep of your being beyond anything you might have indeed considered before.
And at those deep layers of consciousness and awareness, you still joyously and unconditionally send forth loving energies, supporting energies, nurturing energies to all of the various physical expressions in the great vastness of your being. And even though your physical being might encounter various challenges and have different perspectives – up to and including considering that the great vastness of its Source Being might even be against it – you still send unconditional loving energies, of which there are no comparisons in the whole of the universe as you could possibly imagine it.
And the manner in which you demonstrate compassion – both towards others, and to your own loving selves, to your own lovely selves – is the closest you are able to come to in understanding the great and mighty structure that is your being. And from those great depths of being, almost beyond any reconcilable differences, almost beyond description itself, you will still be able to recognize the deep feeling-tones of love as you express it in and through the auspices of your physical being. And we present this not only as material for discussion, but as a meditation in itself.
What is the time?
MARK: 8:43
KRIS: Then we suggest a small break, so that you can compose yourselves once again.
(Break begins at 8:43 PM.)
MARK: Before I take you guys off censor mode, Kris is referring to material he brought up on that Wednesday night, our first night in Castaic with Paul and Jo, and the Uguur – and he hasn’t talked about nanons8 yet, but this is new material.
[Mark un-mutes group.]
JOHN: This is like – many ‘All That Is’s'?
MARK: This is the ‘All That Is’ that we know, so there are multiple ‘All That Is’s’ and ‘All That Is’ is an Essence.
ELLA: Mark, did he actually mention that name, Uguur, before?
MARK: Yes, on that Wednesday (Feb.
and he continued it a little bit on Sunday (Feb. 12)9.
ELLA: I don’t remember that name, well I wasn’t there on Wednesday, so…
MARK: No, it was just Paul, Jo, myself and Serge.
ELLEN: On Sunday night he expanded on it.
MARK: Yeah.
ELLEN: That was just a little spontaneous session.
EMMY: I remember you told me about it, right, Ellen?
ELLEN: Did I mention it to you…oh, that’s right, on the phone…we spoke over the phone about it.
ELLA: When was it on Sunday? After the workshop?
ELLEN: Between 8:00 and 10:00 PM, we were sitting around. It was Paul, Jo, me, Mark and Alan.
MARK: There were quite a number of sessions that happened that full week that Serge and I were in California, starting with that Wednesday, there was the Open House on Friday, there was the walk, there was one or two recordings with Alan and the group as well as the weekend conference. All of these are being transcribed and will be published.
ELLA: So is the Uguur a species? How does he describe them?
MARK: As ‘All That Is’.
SERGE: Well, he’s actually referred to them as ‘All That Is’s’.
ELLEN: All the IS’s that Is’s! And then some!
PAUL: Yeah, he actually went on both ends of the spectrum to the extremes, where the rational mind can no longer follow, and the two points of that are Seth’s consciousness units, or CU’s. He introduced a new unit called “nanons.” Consciousness units are made up of nanons, which is….absurd, rationally speaking, in my view….and then you go up the other end of the spectrum to ‘All That Is’, which is actually a nanon and a consciousness unit perhaps…
Then he goes into ‘All That Is’s and stretches that outside so that it caves in on itself, it’s a Zen koan in my opinion, and he’s mentioned that this is material for discussion and also contemplation. So it’s something to try yourself and see where does this lead within your own awareness, because Seth is pretty clear in the extremes of consciousness units to ‘All That Is’ – fairly comprehensive map – but Kris kind of one-upped him, and went to nanons and now ‘All That Is’s and then he gave Uguur as a single sort of tone to represent it all, all the clusters, and all the families, so it’s just….you know…
FEMALE: It’s big!
PAUL: It’s big, but don’t go too crazy over it, Steve! (Paul is addressing Steve L. here)
(Group laughter)
PAUL: The rational mind has to be left behind at some point.
ELLEN: The farther in you go, the bigger it gets.
STEVE L: I wanted to say to Paul that I posted that I wanted to know what the practical benefit of perceiving our Essence was going to be, and I’m glad he spoke to that tonight10.
PAUL: Yeah, Kris does that very well.
STEVE L.: He must have been reading.
MARK: Oh, he does. He perceives all…
PAUL: And knows most! (Laughter) This material will be coming out and it’s something that we’ll be exploring for months to come. No quick, simple conclusions; just more stuff to contemplate.
ELLA: Paul, we just yesterday were watching “Men In Black,” and for some reason, the concept of the galaxy in that little marble kind of stuck with me, it’s all so very metaphysical, you know we sometimes relate to things by sight and it probably has nothing to do with anything, and you could have ‘All That Is’ in a tiny marble, and outside of that is another….something….I was thinking about that just yesterday11.
PAUL: That’s right, you know, Kris has been working on processes and perspectives – these are other words he’s been using – but this Avatar Yoga, or Yoga of Remembrance, the organizing principle of it all, you know, these processes and perspectives are important [in order for us] to stretch and develop.
ELLA: You know, when he was saying about remembering, or what would it mean to remember Essence, and I was trying to answer that myself. If we were to take it to the future, after the Shift, where people supposedly would be able to tune into this network of consciousness….I can’t quite resolve it – to me it’s almost like when a magician performs their illusions and you don’t know how they do it, it’s so magical – yes, there’s an explanation, but still – it’s so magical to you, but once they show you how they do it, you see, oh yes, there’s the invisible thread, etc. – it loses some of the magic. You don’t – none of you feels this way? – I guess I have to reconcile it for myself….
ANYA: I really think that it’s so big, and it’s always changing – all these different perspectives, so to say – that there’s no end to it. We’ll never figure out everything, because when you think you figure out something, it’ll be something new and even exciting, just as exciting, to figure out.
PAUL: Ultimately there’s nothing to figure out, in terms of the rational map that we explore, that we have. That’s just a nice map, but it’s not the territory ultimately. Nothing can be completely – there’s something bizarrely inexplicable around every next realization. It all…the Uguur create themselves just like that12.
MARK: You have to remember that ‘All That Is’ does not understand ‘All That Is’…and, he’s back.
(Break ends at 8:52)
KRIS: Now as a shorter example of waves, perhaps Philip would be so kind as to take a small wand (pause) and what we suggest….is not to put it that close to the microphone…
MARK: (Chuckling as he tries to follow Kris’ directions)
KRIS: …and at rhythmic intervals, Philip will strike the instrument and we ask only that you pay attention to the waves of sound and resonance as they begin to intermingle and allow that sound to reach you, and pay attention to its interaction with your body.
[Mark begins to tap the chime in rhythmic intervals for about a minute or so.]
Now this is sound from one small instrument. Your own bodies actually create far more potent and powerful sound vibrations, though you are unaware of that fact. It is an established fact, however, that all forms in your reality have a specific sound vibration, and as we suggested earlier about following the rhythmic waves, you can expand that exercise by mentally, meditatively tuning into the sound waves that your own physical form generates and use that to deepen your contemplation and actually follow the resonance of the sound vibration as it travels through time and space as far as you are able to allow your imagination to follow.
And if you must go and follow it outside of the parameters of time and space, then by all means follow that sound vibration, a specific tone of your being that you are able to follow simply as an exercise to widen and stretch the boundaries of your imagination and perception. [It is] a simple sounding little exercise, but one that can have far-reaching and beautiful effects. We would suggest doing this no more than for five minutes during the day.
And allow that energy to carry you throughout your day, reflecting upon the flow of that tone, and how that tone alters and changes and modifies consciousness into your reality. Another similar simple exercise follows the very same path and as you continue to follow the tone of your energy, you might even like to direct your gaze, your eyes, your attention, towards the many stars in the night sky – preferably when you can see the stars on a clear night – and as you direct your tone towards the stars themselves – distant suns around which orbit other planets and celestial bodies – notice – however faint, or not – notice how that tone may indeed reflect the tones of other suns and stars.
This obviously will be entirely subjective, but we believe that you are wise enough to know that even a subjective experience can be as impactful and meaningful as any of your cherished objective experiences. You might not yet understand the suns and distant stars as little more than astronomical phenomenon, without understanding yet that they are also more than simply your creations in that sense of the word.
They are often other expressions of your Essence, other types of aspects of your Source. And that too, may draw you into wonderful experiences. Now we believe that this has sufficiently stretched the boundaries of your minds and imaginations for the evening, so if you are of a mind, then perhaps questions that deal on the topic might be enjoyable to deal with.
ELLA: Kris, could you possibly expand upon after the Shift, when human beings would be more aware of their connections to Essence – and the way I understand it, they will be part of that network of consciousness, much more than we are at right now. How would they function within that context? Would they constantly be aware of what they create, why they create…would that take away some of the magic of our experience right now?
KRIS: Indeed an interesting question, and it should be understood that before the Shift, many people go to work, collect a paycheck, pay the bills; after the Shift, many people will continue to go to work, collect a paycheck, and pay the bills13. And not everyone will magically be on the same foothold. There will still be people who have no interest in these things, perhaps seeing this phenomenon as little more than another kind of religious group or teaching. But for those who have journeyed that path, they may indeed discover their multiple awarenesses and be able to focus upon a multitude of Essence events simultaneously whilst still being able to function within physical reality and appear as the average Dick and Jane. Do you follow so far?
ELLA: Yes.
KRIS: However, it does not necessarily mean that the magic will have worn off, but quite possibly physical reality for those individuals will have acquired a much more powerful, magical quality. Knowing how they can experiment with subjectivity in a powerful way may indeed make life itself that much more of an invitation to participate in it, and not try to denigrate it. Do you follow?
ELLA: Yes.
KRIS: So it will indeed be possible to have spontaneous out of body experiences without going to sleep, for example, whilst being at the office, but fully aware that a portion of your awareness is somewhere on Malibu beach whilst you are shoveling snow in New Jersey!
(Laughter)
ELLA: Yes!
KRIS: And FEEL the benefits of that journey. Barriers to such experiences may indeed be dropped. Resistances might be resolved. Disbelief might be quelled and a great sense of joy in knowing that the energetic oneness of humankind, for example, is not merely the talk of California tree-huggers, but indeed an integral truth of reality, where compassion for another is not only an act of goodness, but an act of relating to the other individual at deeper-most levels, knowing that the other is also you. Does that make sense?
ELLA: Makes sense, but still leaves lots of food for thought, which I’ll do.
KRIS: Indeed, because we cannot give you the entire buffet right now.
ELLA: I’m not asking, but I appreciate the answer, thank you.
STEVE LORD: This is Steve Lord here in Santa Barbara. First I want to make a statement that….I’ve asked you a lot of off-the-wall questions, but I want you to understand that that does not preclude the fact that I – and I’m sure I speak for all of us – that I appreciate 100% your efforts to come down here and take your time and energy just to try and help us, I think that’s just great and that without you ghosts, we would be walking around in the dark like the other six billion people on the planet – (Group chuckles) – life would not be nearly as interesting now that we have all your teachings.
KRIS: Indeed, we hear you and appreciate your comment and you need to know that though you perceive your questions as being off the wall, they are perhaps more meaningful than you estimate, and your being also is more meaningful than you could understand at this point in time.
STEVE L.: Okay, well Serge had posted on Newworldview – I thank you for that – Serge posted that he remembers you telling me on Sunday that I or we are asking the wrong questions, and I wondered what you meant by that and maybe you could ask yourself one of the right questions and answer it for us14.
(Group laughter)
ELLEN: Way to get around it, Steve!
KRIS: Indeed your humor is indeed cosmic! (More laughter) We did make that statement that you are not yet asking the right kinds of questions. Take yourself for example: you are struggling with and asking why your subjective awareness may be out to get you. And though it may appear that way to your present perspective, it may not necessarily be the truth. Perhaps the truth lies more in the area where, all your life long you have cultivated specific views, ideas and beliefs about yourself, your life, and reality. Even holding those conclusions as profound beliefs and facts about existence, and right now you are debating the usefulness of a so-called subjective awareness that could lead you into almost life-threatening conflict, correct?
STEVE L.: Uh…I was hoping you could lay this out – the threatening conflict.
(An automated warning sounds at this time that the conference call is due to end in ten minutes)
KRIS: Indeed. Do take into consideration that perhaps those perspectives that you hold are part of your struggle, and perhaps instead of viewing reality through the lens of THOSE beliefs, you might benefit greatly by primarily acknowledging that whether it is objective or subjective awareness, you still create your experiences. As such then, it is possible to find other alternatives to address your issues and challenges than through the lens of your own beliefs.
Now the questions have to come around and abide by a different set of rules, not necessarily why you would be subjected to certain physical conditions and challenges, but what benefits or understandings are you wishing to extract from life WITH those challenges as a beginning to understanding what you have been up to all of these years.
But first, even before you venture there, our perspective is that there need be another kind of question, and that is to ask yourself about being able to love. Not another, not an object or a thing, but to love LOVE itself and how you can derive benefit and satisfaction from that state of mind and mood. For the time being, that will be our answer for you.15
STEVE L.: Thank you.
KRIS: You are most welcome. Is there another question?
ELLEN: I don’t think we have time for my question.
KRIS: What is the time?
MARK: 9:17.
KRIS: Indeed.
MARK: Okay, Ellen.
ELLEN: I’ll try to make it quick, but we had that discussion last Sunday about the Uguur, and Paul and Mark had a kind of a debate about the theory of evolution and what you like to call “Monkeylution” and how it never happened, and Seth has always asserted that it never happened. I got to thinking about that a lot this week, because there’s no denying that there have been bones and fossils and artifacts found of creatures who…
KRIS: Indeed!
ELLEN: …resemble the hybridization of man and ape, and….
KRIS: We appreciate your question and perhaps for the next such discussion, it can actually be the topic.
ELLEN: All right! Let’s go for it then.
KRIS: You can use it also to draw attention to the teleconference. Do you understand?
ELLEN: I believe so.
KRIS: It is called good old-fashioned marketing!
(Mark and I both laugh)
MARK: I know Paul’s going to be there!
ELLEN: All right then!
KRIS: Therefore, next discussion is about Monkey-ism. (Group laughter) Therefore we thank each and every one of you for your lovely selves and your energies and we return you to your realities and give you blessings.
ALL: Thank you, Kris.
(Session ends at 9:19)
DETAILED ROLL CALL:
Toronto: Serge (Joseph), Mark (Philip), John (Sohars), Myrna (Shara-Leene)
Castaic: Paul (Janaki), Jo (Rosalie), Ester (Benata), Peter (Zintukk), Karin, Gail, and Carl
Delaware: Ellen (Kwaa’Ji) and Cathy (Segova)
Santa Barbara: Steve L. (Gabriel)
Salt Lake City: Anya (Greensleeves)
Washington, D.C.: Steven
Hawaii: Tom (Desire)
New Jersey: Ella (Lazuli)
Netherlands: Emmy (Atin Khum)
Endnotes:
1 Paul’s note: Kris refers to the “Discover Your Passionate Self” Workshop held in Castaic, California February 10-12 where he presented what he calls Avatar Yoga, or the Yoga of Remembrance. The following is a general outline taken from Mark Bukator’s notes:
Day One – February 11, 2006
* Meditation: Chanting AUM
* Opening Ceremony (Smudge stick, leaves, grapes, water, sand, etc.): Connect with basic elements that make this all possible
* Meditation/Visualization: Visit the Essence “Pool”
Lunch Break
* Divide the room into four groups
o explore your passions, have one person summarize for the whole
o act out your passions, each group presents to the whole
* Kris: Passions (Finale for the day)
Day Two – February 12, 2006
* Divide the room into FIVE groups (North, South, East, West and Center (group Aum)
* Q and A followed by discussions
Lunch Break
* Divide the room into FOUR new groups (Each group is ONE Essence)
o Describe the journey that THAT Essence is undertaking in terms of each focus. One person presents to the whole.
o Who are YOU?
Short Break (Birthday party and musical interlude, Peter Bayreuther performed Joy from his Nine Sisters CD)
* Meditation (Kris walked around and laid his hands on our shoulders/heads)
* Kris Chant (Everyone joined in)
* Q and A
* Peter closes by performing Love!
2 Paul’s note: our ability to ask the right questions and adequately assimilate the concepts helps to drive the depth of the material that gets presented at any given time. I can only think back with awe and admiration for the pioneering work done by Jane Roberts, Rob Butts, and students in the 1960s as they were involved with the slow but steady delivery of the Seth material and Jane’s Aspect Psychology. But it was nice to hear Kris point this out in an encouraging way.
3 Paul’s note: Peter and Karin had come all the way from Melle, Germany to participate in the workshop. Peter is a big Seth, Elias, and Kris fan, and has recorded several CDs based upon various conscious creation concepts. They stayed for a week afterwards and went on day trips around Southern California.
Peter and Karin visited on Monday after the workshop and he brought sheet music of his songs, which we played and jammed to in my studio.
We set up a date for him to return on Wednesday. I thought we would jam some more but Peter had other ideas! He suggested we record We Are Essence! Now, I had created Joanne’s cold by this time, so I was feeling out of sorts, but I said, “OK, I can go for an hour, let’s see what we come up with.”
I was using new recording software, so I wasn’t able to do everything in a flash. At one point I thought we might not be able to do the recording at all because of technical problems. But something very magical happened. In the midst of trouble-shooting and installing new hardware, I put out a mental request to my Sister Muses to help solve the problems, and two and a half hours later we had recorded seventeen tracks of music!
Peter arranged the whole thing, and it was a pleasure to see musical mind in action. I became a co-producer who handled the recording equipment and computer. Peter played violin, an overtone chant track, lead vocals, and piano – the core of the arrangement. Karin and Jo laid down two backup vocal tracks, and were really lovely in their singing! And I played a flute, bass, and percussion tracks. It all happened very spontaneously and creatively. We were all inspired by the workshop energy.
Peter Bayreuther and Paul Helfrich Paul and Peter
Peter and Karin returned the following Sunday, the day of this session, to mix the song. That was a whole other adventure, as it was the first serious mixing I’d done in 6-7 years in my upgraded studio. So there were still some hurdles to mount, but we set aside three hours and finished by 3 PM. That gave us an hour to relax before company came over for this Int’l. session.
We played the song during the first break over our stereo system. I wondered what it sounded like being squeezed into the phone lines? But people got the gist of the song and arrangement, and we had a blast! Peter and Karin left that night for Hollywood to finish their three-week American adventure. And I would spend another six hours remixing the song because I wasn’t happy with the way Peter’s lead vocal sounded (a bit to much like being in a large trash can!).
I sent Peter an email with MP3 versions of the first and second mixes to see which he liked the best, and after he got home and listened on his computer, we agreed to send the second version out to everyone. Enjoy the trance mantra anthem: We Are Essence!
4 Ellen’s note: Anya is referring to the morning after she arrived in Castaic for the workshop. She went for lunch at a small cafe and met Peter, Karin, Ella and Inna for the first time. Peter called their group the “European Coalition” as he and Karin are from Germany, and Ella, Inna, and Anya are all Russian. Anya said that the energy among the five of them felt “awesome,” and “We felt like we were right where we needed to be.”
At lunch they became acquainted (or perhaps re-acquainted!) and spoke of Essence names and six-packs. Peter said his Essence name (from Elias) was “Marlyn.” Anya shared part of her private session with Kris, in which he gave her an Essence name of “Greensleeves,” and told her that she could connect with her Essence Source more effectively through listening to the song, “My Lady Greensleeves.”
Anya said that she had done a lot of research on this song, and had found the lyrics in a lot of places, but had not been able to find the melody that went with it, so she had given up. Peter recognized the song, began humming softly to himself for a few minutes, trying to recall the exact melody, then suddenly began singing it. Ella (who surprised everyone at the workshop on Saturday by belting out a composition of her own in an amazing, beautiful strong voice) joined in, then Karin and Inna, all singing out loud and strong, causing people in the restaurant to turn heads in wonderment
Anya told me later that hearing this song at last touched her so deeply that it brought tears to her eyes, and that out of all the experiences of Essence connection she had throughout the weekend, this was one of the most emotional.
Music: http://www.empire.k12.ca.us/capistrano/Mike/capmusic/renaissance/Greensleeves%5B1%5D.mid
Lyrics: http://www.xs4all.nl/~josvg/cits/lm/lorecd45.html
5 Paul’s note: Kris’ Avatar Yoga, or Yoga of Remembrance, acknowledges physical STATES and STAGES of development. As Ken Wilber says, “States are free, but stages are earned.” In other words, we all experience at least three basic states every twenty-four hours, waking, dreaming, and deep sleep.
However, we all begin at STAGE 1 as infants and develop through varying STAGES as we mature. So stages take time and always involve growing pains. This isn’t to focus upon suffering or unpleasant experiences, but acknowledge that they are an inherent part of the physical, mental, and spiritual growth we all experience.
STATES are a very important part of Avatar Yoga because we can learn to induce altered states that engage phenomena like channeling, lucid dreaming, projections of consciousness, empathy, ecstasy, etc. But further, certain states develop in stages, as I believe channeling does, for example.
So these are important considerations to factor in as we learn to shift or widen our awareness and engage the remembrance of essence.
6 Paul’s note: this is an important definition of the remembrance. Recall that Kris began the 2006 Int’l. sessions by announcing this to be The Year of Enlightenment by Compassion. Kris went on to define “species” of enlightenment in relation to his cosmological map of the Four Quadrants. So in Quadrant 1, or physical reality, we experience a type of enlightenment or remembrance. This can occur as a temporary STATE, a taste, or can also be realized as a permanent STAGE. Thus, there are a variety of ways to engage enlightenment that Kris is only beginning to explore this year.
Further, he uses the term “remembrance” in a similar way Elias does to describe enlightenment, namely, that it involves a process of engaging “multiple Essence perspective[s] of a multi-dimensional nature.” So the Avatar Yoga that Kris has begun to outline this year provides important methods in which to engage the remembrance of essence.
See also the Elias Digest: remembrance of essence.
7 Paul’s note: this “species of mega-consciousness” is similar to what Seth called “primary pyramid gestalts” in The Early Sessions, Vol. 9 (2002), p. 28. Though Kris uses his own jargon to describe these phenomena, they are ontologically similar aspects of All-That-Is.
Again, Kris is in the process of outlining a very broad cosmological map, one that extends way beyond conventional New Age notions of focus and essence or inner self. Thus his Avatar Yoga outlines practical methods that will lead us to directly experience these concepts for ourselves. And I know from personal experience, when those satoris occur it’s a good thing to have an accurate map deeply ingrained in awareness, because it helps us to better relax into the experience of the altered state, and adequately translate the experience.
Kris further outlined how the Uguur are involved in the mechanics of conscious creation throughout All-That-Is in the following Int’l. session on March 5, 2006.
8 Paul’s note: Kris introduced the concept of nanons on February 8, 2006 as even “smaller” units that make up CUs or consciousness units.
9 Paul’s note: actually the term Uguur was introduced on Sunday February 12, 2006. But together with nanons, provide a set of conceptual bookends to further contemplate the infinity of All-That-Is, of who and what we really are.
10 Paul’s note: Steve’s comment shows the importance of the discussion forums on NewWorldView and other online venues that occur in conjunction with these, and the Elias sessions.
11 Ellen’s notes: Just now as I was working on this transcript, hearing Ella’s words, I suddenly remembered this statement Kris made the previous Sunday:
“The Uguur are what you consider the ‘All That Is’. Such potential was discovered and unleashed that a single TEAR can contain millions of galaxies. And thus the realities that YOU know were magically formed by unbelievable desire and potential.”
12 Paul’s note: here I referred to “the Adams axiom,” an elegant, ironic, and gently humorous quote from the author of The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy. It shows that we will never be able to fully analyze All-That-Is in purely rational, scientific terms:
“There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarrely inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened.” ~ Cut dialogue from Fit the Fifth, Original Hitchhiker Radio Scripts (1985).
In the context of essence remembrance and forgetting, then, our forgetting or ignorance is innately designed into the very fabric of our universe permeating physical, biological, psychological, and spiritual aspects of our growth and development.
13 Paul’s note: I took this comment in the spirit of the saying, “Chop wood, carry water before enlightenment. Chop wood, carry water after enlightenment.” In other words, I don’t interpret this literally, as who knows what we will create seventy years from now when this shift is supposedly over (according to Seth and Elias).
14 Paul’s note: Steve refers to a topic he began on NWV that was a follow-up from the Kris Workshop called What did Kris mean Sunday when he replied to me about you cant fight laws of physics.
15 Paul’s note: this is consonant with Kris declaring 2006 The Year of Enlightenment by Compassion. Compassion obviously includes feeling, emotions and other “right-brained,” feminine, or intuitive modalities that are often under-emphasized in the modern, rational, materialist worldview. So I found this a particularly beautiful reminder of the need to feel our way through these questions, and not to limit our seeking to only rational, fact-based answers. All the premodern traditions have various practices to develop compassion, and engaging various practices are an important element of Kris’ Avatar Yoga.
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Private Session with Tom (Hawaii)
February 18, 2006
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Tom Chez (Desiré)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on February 18, 2006
Kris: Now we trust that you are comfortable.
Tom: Yes, hello Kris.
Kris: And from what we gather the weather in your corner of reality is quite fine indeed.
Tom: Yes it is very nice here, always warm, a little chilly at night in the wintertime – but that relative. A beautiful place…
Kris: Indeed. Please feel free to pursue your questions and interests.
Tom: Ok, thank you. I’d like to start with a short review of progress I’ve made relevant to the material that you’ve presented. We talked about the decision making process and the gathering of unconscious information in order to make good decisions. I was concerned about that at first, but after spending some time reflecting and re-evaluating some of my decisions, and how I make decisions, I realized that I do take advantage of unconscious information quite naturally and it has become automatic.
So in a manner of speaking, I can’t blame poor intuitive abilities for what I am creating in life. Not that I wish to prove myself a victim here, but I do wish to direct focus to areas that could use improvement.
So we have moved on towards beliefs, and we were discussing that. You mentioned that listening to our inner dialog was perhaps the best method of becoming aware of the beliefs that one has. I haven’t done really well with that so far – listening to my inner dialog and discovering what some of my beliefs are. I was wondering if rather than get directly into the beliefs now, if we could back up one step and talk about the blueprints.
For instance, questions like: What is the difference between a blueprint and a belief? Is a blueprint something that becomes a belief? What is the historical background of the blueprint? I’m thinking that if I could separate what is part of my blueprint from what my beliefs are, then I might be able to see my beliefs more clearly. Now it seems I can’t tell the difference between what is my blueprint or my original value creation goals and what my beliefs are. So could you comment on that?
Kris: Most definitely. And our comments may not necessarily appear to address your situation though in retrospect you may note that it does. For example, you have noted that your blueprints for value fulfillment or value creation might be different from your beliefs. And if you understood your blueprint you might be better able to understand the functions of your beliefs.
Tom: Yes.
Kris: And that is indeed a fine approach, but it should be noted that blueprints themselves are not specifically as static and solid state in that very manner. They are also very fluid in such that you may have overall goals during the expanse of this present lifetime, and at the same time you are not specifically locked into particular blueprints. As the architect of your own journey, which would include then the architect’s own blueprints, they are always available for some ramifications, changes, and alterations. Does that make sense?
Tom: Yes.
Kris: And you may have overall intent – even for various segments of your life’s journey – and what you hope to extract from those experiences. You also have a certain degree of leeway and flexibility to accommodate the ever-changing flow and flux of ideas, idea constructions, idea atmospheres and so on and so forth as pertains to your own personal unfolding. And that will also include communications to and from other focuses. Do you understand that?
Tom: So communications to and from other focuses may provide information that may cause me to alter a blueprint?
Kris: Cause you in the sense that you might change some of your perspectives and make alterations to the pattern of your blueprints, while still trying to honor the overall thrust and direction of some of the things you wish to experiment with and explore in this lifetime, as you would differently in other lifetimes.
Tom: Would it be possible for one to actually see or draw one’s blueprint and say “This is my current blueprint at this point in my life today – this is where I’m going” Is it just what I think what I want right now or is it something different than that…
Kris: Something far more subjective. Most individuals relish the idea that what they think is what will be. That only functions a certain percentage of the time. Not because there is something preventing you, whether something internal or something external to yourself, but instead there are always deeper understandings to be had.
And you may for instance want the biggest house in the world until you realize that you may have to wash all the windows yourself. So then you might come to the conclusion that what you want may not be what you need. You may need a comfortable and perhaps even a luxurious type of abode, but it should still meet certain practical criteria. And that will cause you to think differently and practically about the approaches you wish to develop for yourself.
So that single realization puts you in a different frame of perception: examining what you think you want, what is occurring from your life right now, where you think you are headed might give you indications of some of the overall experiences you might be drawing to yourself and literally creating. It is not always so cut and dry nor black and white, but often has many different kinds of nuances that themselves flush out the experience in so many more dimensions, contrary to what someone thinks they want. Does that make sense to you?
Tom: Sort of – the blueprints exist in the subjective?
Kris: Indeed.
Tom: This may be a dumb question here but I’m going to ask it anyway: Ideas and strong beliefs exist in the subjective?
Kris: As well. The objective is that area of subjectivity that you are focusing upon much more so than any other area of subjectivity.
Tom: Ah, ok a subset.
Kris: You label that area of subjectivity as objectivity. In other words, even your entire physical experience is a category of subjective experience you name objectivity. The physical concrete rational material world is ONE expression of a field of subjectivity. Just like in your dreams, you are caught up in a scenario in you dream.
You might have a large beast snapping its jaws at your heels. You are running very fast. You know you are sweating, you know that the faster you run the more you stay in place, it seems that your fear is so consuming, and so on and so forth. And then the next moment you are in another kind of dream environment. You may be walking in a beautiful city looking at the constructions, the buildings, and the people – a completely different environment. Then the next moment you are flying in a plane high above the cityscape looking at the different buildings, highways, vehicles, and so on from the perspective of the plane.
So these are three different scenarios and you may not have noticed that you simply switched your concentration from one area to another. And whilst you were being chased by the beast you had no objective awareness of the other two dreams. When you switched, and say went into the third dream, being in the airplane looking at the city below, you no longer were concerned with the first dream of the beast snapping at your heels.
All three dreams are individually unique but they occur in different areas of subjectivity. Looking back from your waking state you may even be able to identify each unique dream as being almost real and life-like in its own way – and it was. But from your perspective these were merely dreams. Now if you were to switch positions with any of the three dreams, looking at your waking life you may conclude that it may have the appearance and tone of simply being another dream that you are focusing in.
Does that assist you a little more in getting the feel of the vast field of subjectivity?
Tom: Yes it does. It really shines the light on that area for me. Thank you… You mentioned making peace with these zones of discomfort, to some degree these inner psychological events, healing yourself. I think that would be like the dream where you’re being chased or terror drama…
Kris: Indeed, definitely so.
Tom: Is trauma related to a belief or just an event that caused you trauma and maybe not necessarily related to a belief?
Kris: Perhaps not in such black and white terms, and you may find as the discussions continue over the few months that things are never necessarily exactly as they appear.
Now, from your waking perspective, coming out of the snapping beasts dream you may wake up in a sweat, fearful, heart racing, blood pounding in your chest, until it takes a few moments of re-orienting yourself, your perspective, only to realize that you are in your own room and that there is no beast snapping at your heels.
And if the dream itself was particularly frightening to you, it make take a while before you actually convince yourself that it was but a dream after all. Do you follow that?
Tom: Yes.
Kris: But whilst you are in that dream nothing else matters, nothing else exists…
Tom: It seems very real.
Kris: Indeed, to the point where you will break out in a physical sweat whilst your body sleeps on the pillow, and so on and so forth.
Tom: And the heart will race.
Kris: Indeed. Now, the issues of beliefs are definitely inter-twined here. The beliefs themselves – any belief that you hold – is little more than a set of ideas that you have particularly imbued with very strong energies and emotions – more so than others. And they evolve often around issues you grew up with, or even issues that you are presently dealing with, and these relate to their root meaning.
You may have events in your physical life that you are not addressing, and they may even be fear-based issues. But for whatever reasons you choose, you have decided to look elsewhere, look away from; pretend what is troubling you is no trouble at all.
Tom: Yes, I’ve had some dreams about that recently, (one) having Band-Aids wrapped all around me in a hospital room, in traction. And realizing that I’m not in pain and that I can walk, and taking off the Band-Aids. What would that represent? That represents an issue that’s not dealt with, that I’ve made myself numb to the issue and (decided) to focus elsewhere?
Kris: It is a likelihood indeed that you might have picked up on issues that need some healing, whatever they may be. They could be from last month or last decade. And in this particular dream mention of yours, what do you use Band-Aids for?
Tom: For healing and to stop bleeding and promote healing.
Kris: Indeed, it may be to help heal a scar or cut or wound of some kind. It prevents – in theory at least – it is there to prevent infection, because of cuts and or bruises or scrapes. Now in looking at those descriptives and perhaps even expand in your own mind through such a thing as free association, and see what other imagery this may bring up for you, whether in terms of psychological images or feelings and emotions.
You might detect layers upon layers in exactly the way the dream meant to also show you that Band-Aids are meant to cover up a cut. It might represent to you small issues that you might have inadvertently turned a blind eye to, thinking that it will find its way out or heal its way out, even if you really have nothing to do with the entire process – which in some respects is not necessarily true.
Tom: Yes.
Kris: The conscious mind is an incredible magnifier of intent and can be of great assistance – instead of being considered a hindrance – a great assistance in crystallizing some thoughts and concentrations. Thus the conscious mind is a built in reservoir of resources and strengths that can help assist you as the individual to bring to the light of awareness some issues that may have troubled you or disturbed you in the past. And through the light of the conscious mind, see it clearly for what it is and release it. That is one of the main reasons why you have a conscious mind.
Tom: And then to support that then … the dream state… When you’re so focused that you don’t actually see clearly what it is that’s bothering you because perhaps you’re staring it in the eye… It seems to me that the dream state gives you another perspective to look at for perhaps the same situation or a different situation, so that something that you may not have thought of like: Oh, I was always looking at it this way or as being the victim, the other perhaps being the villain. And then you might see it from a different point of view – the perspective.
Kris: Indeed.
Tom: To me, that was the role that the dream was playing – it was showing me a different perspective (of a particular event) allowing me to wake up and reflect upon the reality, what the hurt is, what could heal it: by looking at things differently, realizing “the other is you” and being able to empathize with the other. To take a different approach, given that the approach that you are (currently using) isn’t working properly.
Kris: That is correct. And there are still many more things that can come out of this. Suffice it to say that most of the time, dream images and scenarios are very allegorical, very much like a parable that you create to convey perhaps a multi-layered communication to yourself, hopefully drawing to conscious awareness the elements necessary to be released. And these will also be belief based in so many different and incredibly ingenious ways.
For instance, you might dream that you are pursued by vicious beasts, dogs or something else that frightens you. And it is quite possible that in real life you like dogs, they do not frighten you. But if you look closely at the imagery, a dog in real life is considered man’s best friend, a trustworthy and unconditional companion – in theory. Do you follow?
Tom: Yes.
Kris: And yet in the dream you are being chased by dogs who wish to hurt you, frightening you. So the dream may have very little to do with dogs per say, as much as the issue of trust being betrayed since you trust a dog – often with your life. Does that make some sense?
Tom: Yes.
Kris: So at that point you might – in theory with this kind of a dream scenario – be dealing with issues relevant to trust, perhaps with deeply trusted individuals who may have breached trust, and that brought you to question the very nature of your friendships and relationships, which could be something frightening, since very few people actually like to go back and put into question what they have trusted before. Dose that make some sort of sense?
Tom: Yes.
Kris: So it is not always what you see with your eyes or in your minds eye with these scenes of a dream, but what it may mean – that is sometimes far more pertinent. Does that make sense to you?
Tom: Yes – is being able to look at things from a different perspective perhaps mandatory for being able to diffuse a non-beneficial belief?
Kris: We believe that it is indeed so. Imagine that you are at the airport being at ground level. You can see the planes. You can even look at the belly of the plane, you can look at the control tower, and you can look at the various gates and so on and so forth. That is one perspective. When you are on the plane and it’s taking off, rising above the buildings, the thrust of the engines is propelling the plane above the tree lines, above the buildings, above the city, and into the clouds. Do you follow?
Tom: Yes.
Kris: Each such stage will give you a different perspective. As soon as you take-off, you can start seeing the bigger lay of the airport itself. As it continues to rise you will see beyond the airport to the adjacent communities, you will see a variety of buildings. And as the plane continues to rise you will actually be able to see entire neighborhoods, and perhaps even eventually the entire city. As you continue to rise you can see outlying areas, and further out on the horizon you might even see mountains or oceans and as you continue to rise these may eventually also disappear. And when you come back, you have a reversal of that process until you touch ground once again.
Different perspectives will allow you to see from different vantage points, thus giving you the opportunity to study what it is that you are observing, in more detail than if it is always in your face. There is a saying that you cannot see the forest from the trees, and it is applicable. There are so many trees you may not even know you are in a forest, until somehow or other you are able to get to a higher ground vantage point. Then your perspective is automatically altered. In examining inner issues, it definitely is of great assistance to build up a system of switching perspectives.
Now, if you look out your window, what do you see?
Tom: A building next door.
Kris: Indeed. This is your living room window?
Tom: Bedroom window.
Kris: If you are in your living room, what do you see?
Tom: I look out and I see another building in the other direction.
Kris: Indeed. If there were no buildings to block your view, you would see how far?
Tom: I would see the ocean.
Kris: Indeed. Now can you see from the bedroom into the living room?
Tom: With the door open…
Kris: Indeed. You do not need to do this now. Continue pretending that from where you are sitting now you can see into the living room.
Tom: Ok.
Kris: And from where you are now you can see not only into the living room but out the window, so your perspective shifts again. Not only can you see out the window but you can see out towards the ocean, towards the horizon. So you have expanded your perception that much more. Your perspectives are now even deeper. Correct?
Tom: (Yes).
Kris: When you have the chance to physically play with this notion, we suggest that you practice observing how you feel going through each of these three stages: your bedroom, the living room, and outward. And notice the change in perceptions, not only in the eyes, but in your physique as well. Each time you’re projecting your vision outwardly there is an adjustment in the contraction and shape of the muscles of the eye, including the eyeball itself, to give you that depth of perspective.
This will create a very specific, though very mild effect in physical terms. We suggest that you play with this. Practice it till you are able to become quite familiar with those very feelings associated with each stage of those three perceptions.
Tom: Ok.
Kris: You may even then suggest that in your dreams you might continue some of that experimentation. And see what the results are.
Tom: Ok, that will also help me to identify beliefs and root beliefs that I could not identify before?
Kris: It is meant to assist you in that direction. When you have a particular challenge, it may seem especially difficult when it is right up in your face. And you might not even be able to see your way out because you are too close emotionally to the situation. So utilizing this shifting of perspective you can allow yourself to slip into another perspective, say stage two, which would give you a greater feel for the salutation perhaps above and beyond the immediacy with which you are living it at that moment.
And then switch it to the third stage, which would make it even further away, giving you a larger picture of the emotions, sediments, sensations, feeling tones of the event. You might even begin to play with it in another way: Utilizing whatever challenge you are dealing with – which is a representation of the beliefs that you hold – you can not only shift your perspective in physical time and space, as we have just suggested to you, but you might even project it into different times. Weather it is what you think of as a year from now, ten years ago, or even in theory fifty years from now.
And leaving yourself open to impressions – allowing impressions from those future or other areas to give you an energetic impression of the situation as it would pertain…
Tom: A different perspective of it then.
Kris: Indeed, not only a different perspective in depth, as in different stages of the plane flying up, but also different perspectives in time. In projecting it to the future, you might experiment with the notion of how to handle this from that future perspective or in projecting it into the idea of the past, ten years, one hundred years from now, into the past. And seeing how such a situation might then be handled.
Tom: That’s very interesting, yes.
Kris: Play with the concept, and it may not only diffuse your immediate sensations of powerlessness towards whatever the event may be or not, but it will also help you generate the ability to recognize how your inner self – or Essence – also assists in the formulation of resolutions to challenges that you meet along your life journey.
Tom: I see. So it starts with an event, I first pick an event, and with that event that challenge that I found – I can project it into the past or the future and try to look at it from that perspective, pick up impressions from that perspective so that I could better deal with it and also to understand the beliefs involved.
Kris: To understand not only the beliefs involved, but how Essence processes information to meet challenges. In real life terms the events or conditions or circumstances would not necessarily trigger you to feel in specific ways as much as what you feel – even if not entirely consciously – is being projected through the means of the events at that moment.
It is often assumed that you are angry as the result of A, B, and C. And perhaps feel quite justified in being angry as the results of A, B, and C. Whilst in truth, A. B. and C are not the originators of what you feel but rather they are the results of what you feel, to give you feedback to your own state of awareness that you may have been negligent in recognizing, and perhaps even into denying. Thus the physical mechanisms of event creations assist the conscious mind in coming to grips with its reality.
Tom: One would first need to become aware that the events are not happening because what they believe is fact, events are happening because beliefs manifest.
Kris: Indeed. At the physical level they appear for all intents and purposes to be factual: this is an event in the full throws of being processed. So it is factual at that point, but it is also allegorical as a means to represent actions or rajas of consciousness in your awareness that you may have blocked. So they are signals, communications to alert you and your conscious mind that you are creating conflict, if the situation is conflicting.
Tom: So one root belief that we would (may) have that would prevent us from moving in this direction and progressing in this area would be that “our events are just proof that what we believe about the world is true”. We’re stuck in a viscous cycle there.
Kris: It can indeed lead to a hamster wheel. And not everyone will be of such a mind to accept those kinds of conclusions; until they are ready to recognize somehow or other that they indeed are the creators of their own events.
Tom: So it does become a belief…
Kris: It is a concretization of your beliefs. That means that you have not only adequate, but superb tools and mechanisms by which to recognize the beliefs that you hold. And those beliefs that are no longer beneficial to you – you can allow them to be transformed or replaced with more beneficial beliefs. You no longer need to hold onto them, but instead of gripping them you let go of your grip and grip other beliefs that may be more beneficial for you at this time.
Tom: Ok. In the last session you mentioned that once you have acknowledged it, addressed it, and accepted it – so that its energy no longer fights you but assists you towards the new goal. So if a belief is an idea that I have given a charge to, some kind of energy, and I focus on another belief, – that statement kind of implied to me that its energy is now available to me to assist (me) in a new goal.
Kris: Indeed. When you are no longer holding on to beliefs that may even be incongruent with your goals and the personality you are, you no longer feed it energy. You are no longer adding fuel to that flame, so you then begin to add fuel to a new flame. The old flame looses its source of fuel; thereby the intensity of its influence in your mental environment diminishes greatly. But you are beginning to then increase the attention and energy you are focusing towards new sets of beliefs. You cannot do away with beliefs, but you can release or simply defuse those that are no longer congruent with you and begin to focus upon those that you are congruent with.
This is where people often get troubled and come to believe that all beliefs should then be done away with. But this is also incorrect. You need the beliefs for your physical existence.
Tom: Should I be concerned about my blueprint at this point or do I merely need to be identifying beliefs? Working with … whether they’re beneficial or not… diffusing them and replacing them with other beliefs that are more beneficial.
Kris: The latter.
Tom: Ok, so I shouldn’t focus on “What could my blueprint have been?”… Does a blueprint kind of transform itself into a set of beliefs? … The blueprint becomes beliefs or some kind of psychological structure.
Kris: At a certain layer, the blueprint is large and generalized. When it is filtered through the processes of your personal views or beliefs, then that aspect of the blueprint can be transformed – switches turned off, switches turned on, beliefs turned off, new beliefs turned on. And that is where you can achieve a greater sense of fulfillment. And the way to notice is to pay attention to not only the events in your life or conditions or situations, but also to your own feelings, your inner dialog, etc, etc…The events that may even present themselves to you as brick walls, situations that are frustrating, conditions that may cause you no end of headache. These are all representational of beliefs that are no longer congruent with you. Does that make sense?
Tom: Yes.
Kris: Those are the ones that you can start to move away from, to give less energy to.
Tom: Would it be good then for me to then view the blueprint as a programmable bank of beliefs with on off switches… A collection of beliefs that is programmable?
Kris: You might view the blueprint as (pause) a type of architecture upon which you build various structures of beliefs – we do not know if this makes as much sense, we are translating here. It is a large framework that gives structuring to your own psychological well being upon which beliefs are grafted. Does that make sense?
Tom Ok, Yes. I can picture that in my mind. Could I ask another question, Seth described Seth II as perhaps we could think of him as a future self, but that he would not become him and his future was his to choose.
Kris: Indeed.
Tom: I was wondering, can I think of my personal unconscious in this same manner, and also as perhaps as an apprentice to Essence?
Kris: That might be too much of a simplification.
Tom: Ok. (Laughing)
Kris: We understand the meaning behind this intent, but it may be wholly insufficient. Your own personal unconscious is not as unconscious as you may think it is. You are consciously far more unconscious then your unconscious – you are far less aware then your unconscious – which is FULLY aware. But that is a buffer zone between yourself and Essence. So it is still you, but on a wider spectrum of which you are less conscious than your conscious perceptions.
Tom: I see, that makes sense, then the future thing would not apply here, and it would be just a gross distortion.
Kris: Indeed.
Tom: The unconscious, could that be thought of as an apprentice to Essence? Or no, same situation…
Kris: Indeed. You are an Expression of Essence. You are not an apprentice to Essence.
Tom: Ok, I didn’t know if there was such a concept or not. I guess there time for another question?
Kris: Indeed, please continue.
Tom: I’m wondering about relationship with self, are there various types of relationships that a focus has with (their) Essence. Essence, I believe never turns it’s back on its focus and I’m just wondering are some Essences lazy or does that never happen?
Kris: We have yet to encounter a couch potato Essence.
Tom: (laughing) Ok.
Kris: But we have encountered many physical couch potatoes.
Tom: Ok, so it’s that the focus is not allowing the help?
Kris: It may not need – or has its own issues to work out, and it may not understand the principles in that manner, depending upon the individuals own views, religious beliefs, and otherwise. But whether it realizes this or not is irrelevant because, Essence is always present. There is no time, no point in time, no moment in time ever without Essence being part of the process, because you are (an) Expression of Essence. So you are truly never separate from.
The point is not that Essence needs to reach you, as much as you need to allow Essence to reach you. These are two different perspectives.
Tom: Could it be that as part of a blueprint, or a desire for freedom, that one would want to forgo the assistance of Essence and see oneself as completely independent of Essence?
Kris: That only exists at the ego level.
Tom: Ok, so it never could be part of a blueprint?
Kris: It may belong as part of experimentation, as your species is and has experimented with already. That is why you have various degrees of separation between humankind and nature, for example. Yet, foolishly some people may think that they do not need nature or what nature gives, without realizing that if all the trees died on your planet overnight, in less that one weeks time your species would likely die. There would be no more oxygen. So you are truly dependent upon nature as you are upon Essence – in that manner.
Tom: Ok, that clears things up for me, I was wondering about my relationship with my Essence… I wasn’t sure, because I didn’t feel like I had a personal relationship with my own Essence, but perhaps I just hide it from myself.
Kris: Please continue.
Tom: Um…(nothing to say)
Kris: Now one of the reasons that some people – perhaps even yourself – do not specifically feel that at any time they have a personal relationship with Essence is perhaps not so much that you do not feel it, it does not exist, you do not have the right approaches, etc, but the perspective might be involved as well. Since you are an Expression of Essence, it is to your advantage to develop that self-relationship.
Tom: Ok, I don’t have any other questions right now so I guess we could end the session a little early.
Kris: It is as you wish, but again to reiterate our last statement… Whether it is recognized or not you always have a relationship with Essence in the same way that you have a relationship with air: you only appreciate it once it is no longer available – in a manner of speaking. You always have that bond with Essence since you are an expression of your own Essence. And it is important to – in one way or another – at least to acknowledge that the self is larger than the sum of all of its parts. You being one of its parts per say, but in fact you are also an expression of the Essence.
Tom: Ok. Well, I will work on the perspectives and I will keep that in mind that Essence is there for me, my Essence is there for me everyday, every moment.
Kris: Indeed, the ancient Christians and the Gnostics before them, and other religions before them but more so the Christians, referred to it as the “Holy Spirit”. It is basically the energy of life itself in and around and through you. And not only are you immersed in it but you are an expression of it.
Tom: Ok.
Kris: So play with those ideas on perspectives and see what you make of it.
Tom: Ok and I will look forward to discussing that with you next time.
Kris: Indeed. It is always an honor to speak with you and we thank you for your consideration.
Tom: Thank you very much Kris.
Kris: You are indeed most welcome.
(End of session)
Private Session with Peter in Germany
February 13, 2006
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Peter Bayreuther (Zintukk)
Recorded in Castaic, California on February 13, 2006
Roll call: Serge (Joseph), Peter (Zintukk), Karin
(Session begins at 11.10 a.m.)
Kris: Now we thank you for your generous presence and consideration. And we trust that you have many questions.
Peter: Yes. Firstly I would like to know my six-pack.
Kris: Indeed. In those terms your belonging is:
Sumari, Ilda, Gramada
In alignment with, you have
Sumafi, Sumari and Zuli
And if we extended that Zuli, as being partially combined with Tumold.
Peter: Interesting! Because I’m always interested by beauty and I always have the impression that beauty is a healing factor as well.
Kris: Indeed it is! You do not create beauty simply because it is something you can do, but everything that is created has meaning, for yourself and others.
Peter: I had a bit of the problem that I took on weight, that I’m a bit fatter now, so I wonder whether I should be more slim to be more beautiful? (Chuckling)
Kris: Beauty in that sense is in the eye of the beholder and since you are the beholder of the beholden then you have to determine what you wish to do . . .
Peter: What is my essence name from your prospective?
Kris: We would express that name as Zintukk.
Peter: Zintukk?
Kris: Z – I – N – T – U – K – K – Zintukk
Peter: Zintukk (chuckling) Interesting! My big passion is to share my music with the world and I have sometimes the feeling there is a bit of reluctance in me and I would like to overcome the reluctance. I tried this, what you were talking about: “let Balance and Harmony do the job” but there seems to be an obstacle between me and the world somehow and I would like to know how to remove this obstacle.
Kris: And what in your own humble opinion does the world represent to you?
Peter: For me it’s the interaction. When I played yesterday this little concert, I am so happy to interact with the other people who listen and we come together and become a unity and it’s a sort of ecstasy, a collective ecstasy and I’m in a way in the middle of the whole whirlwind and I like this feeling!
Kris: Now in some respect you may very well be considering that the world and its people are something quite separate and apart from you. And that is quite understandable as this is what your senses tell you. However, psychologically you can also accept that the world and yourself are each a unique expression of other aspects of your whole being. The other is you!
It is easier that way to understand that there might be less reluctance that you are sharing your music with other parts of you, directly and indirectly and that your desire to share that music and to bring about the dance master from each other individual through your music, the weavings that you create can be shared much more easily, than to look at people and wonder what their reluctances are.
They in turn each reflect those reluctances that you still own, whether it be a fear or otherwise. Thus, if you take into consideration that the projections you send are your own that you own them, it can also be easier to un-own them, DIS-own, at least the reluctances, so that you can concentrate on the matters you wish to share. Does that make some sense to you?
Peter: Yes. I would like to concentrate on music and find a partner who is doing the commercial stuff and I wonder how I should manage to find this partner. Because, when I came to Hollywood it came clear to me that to be a star it is necessary to sell my music and I always had this focus on quality and now it comes clear to me that I have to sell my music and I’m not quite sure whether I can be the business man whether I can develop this or if I should have a companion to do it?
Kris: It would definitely benefit you to seek out or even draw to yourself an individual with the correct business savvy as well as connections.
Peter: Connections?
Kris: Now, you are also likely correct that you would not be sufficiently able to manage such an endeavour on your own without sacrificing time and quality to your music. Our suggestion is to continue enhancing the quality of your art and continue enhancing the love of that art and through that intent ask the universe to bring on your path those individuals necessary to market your skills, talent and art and love of your art to the appropriate channels that will get sales and connections going.
So this is a bit more than simply desiring, because intent demands that you take action when the impulses, when the strong intuition and impressions make themselves known to you!
Peter: So you think it is good for me to wish to have a partner for commercial and promoting and don’t have to do it all on my own?
Kris: That is correct!
Peter: Yes, because I’m longing for it for I think 20 years now and I wonder why I haven’t met this person yet?
Kris: As we suggested, longing and desiring are fine indeed but they are not sufficient! Direct your intent to draw to you through the universe through the systems through any means possible! But you must be ready to act on the impulse! You may, for instance, want to go down this street, as a vague example, where you may have gone before and where may be cafes that normally you would not give a second thought to.
And perhaps you will get a strong impulse to stop and play at this café where normally you would not even give it a second thought. And perhaps as you begin to play at that café, there might indeed be someone there that is taken by your abilities and your music, who may be directly or indirectly involved with the connections that would be perfect for you!
Peter: So acting on my impulses…
Kris: But in conjunction with your intent! You might have many impulses, you might have the impulse to jump in a pool, that might not be the best… Do you know what we mean?
Peter: Yes, I think I did this quite well in my hometown the last year when I had the impulse to play in this little restaurant and build up an audience in my own home town that was a great experience for me in the last year.
Yes and I would like to thank you for your material because I really worked with it, that heroic dimension and heroes of love, I used that for my concert series. And now I’m famous in my hometown and I think it’s about time to be famous in the world. Because now I know what it feels like to be famous and it is quite a thrill it is not that easy it is quite a job to be famous (chuckling)! Yes!
Kris: Indeed, it is very demanding!
Peter: Yes, but I like it and I think I have the guts, I have the strength for it, I think it belongs to my intent. So I was very happy to give a concert on your seminar, what I would like to thank you for!
This is a bit of an example of acting on my impulses, because I just did it and it was so great I had these reverberations with the other people…
Kris: You might also give due consideration to mention to as many people as possible at least people you know, to let others know about your CDs, your music. Especially if they have connections with individuals who might be able to advance your career in that area, whether it is with a studio etc., all the contacts are potentially available. Not all of them will come about and not all of them may be good for you, but when you utilize and direct your intent to pursue your career in that fashion that the universe assists you in making contacts, links, networking that it bring about those connections that are the most appropriate to forth you and though you may still play with the ideas that this contact may be good this contact may be good, do not settle for the first opportunity, allow the universe to show you what is available. Does that make sense?
Peter: Yes
Kris: In other words do not try to box the impulses and connections immediately, give the opportunity for your subjective awareness to work in conjunction with your intent and keep at it. You already have developed a great deal of patience in that direction…
Peter: Yes, I think so.
Kris: … so be adding a bit more will not tire you in any way, shape or form
Peter: What?
Kris: It will not make you tired. If you can, also send or discover first of all where there are studios that publish the works of other artists, if you know other artists communicate with them and ask them, whom publishes their music. Do you follow?
Peter: Yes.
Kris: And make some attempts along those lines.
Peter: So I should work with other studios, I shouldn’t do it all in my studio alone, I should work with other studios as well?
Kris: Production studios.
Peter: Production studios, yeah.
Kris: Those that take the artists, distribute their work through wide networks, so that you can then achieve another stage in your fame.
Peter: Yes (chuckling) that is true!
Kris: And you also need to gradually and gently overcome your shyness.
Peter: Yes.
Kris: It is an excellent quality, do not abandon it but modify it.
Peter: Aha.
Kris: Especially the idea that, though you desire your music to be better known, YOU also need to be better known, because the music comes from your heart …
Peter: Yes.
Kris: Not somewhere in someone else. Does that make sense?
So you need then to develop a bit of an edge.
Peter: An edge.
Kris: Indeed, not a violent aggressiveness but an assertiveness.
Peter: Assertiveness.
Kris: Especially around the idea that you deserve and that you are deserving of a wider audience and bigger sales and more respect for your creation. Do you understand?
Peter: I understand. I had the impression that my shyness might be one of the blockages which are still on my path to …
Kris: A small bit, it is not something you need to have surgery to remove.
Peter: Aha, good.
Kris: It is an excellent quality, one that should not be eliminated but simply in the word, tempered, slightly… modified. It still shows that you are a caring individual but at the same time you are capable of even more.
Peter: Yes, that’s right. I think I can allow myself to be active and to have fun when I am active, because sometimes I have too many doubts I think when I produce music or it feels sometimes like a duty.
Kris: There may be times that you do feel that and you may even notice when you feel that strongly your music somehow or other doesn’t reach the audience in same manner as when you are literally on fire with passion for the moment as you play that violin as if it was a magical instrument that enchants the listener.
Peter: It was so great that you let me play yesterday for the members of your seminar!
Kris: Indeed and we believe they all were moved very nicely by what you transmitted through your violin. The music in that way what you do is an instrument to convey what is from your heart to theirs, so it is transformed through music but powerful as well.
Peter: I would like to thank you as well for your friendly words about my music yesterday. That was great.
Kris: Indeed they are words that express the honor we still feel to have shared of your presence and your talents.
Peter: Thank you!
Is there any other lifetime in which I have troubles? Sometimes I have the feelings that there might be other focuses where I have some pains which I should be able to soften or to get release from.
Kris: (10 seconds pause) There are indeed a few other Expressions of Essence that are also dealing and struggling with similar issues. These issues are a life trait, meaning they connect more than one focus, connect more than one lifetime together and they have to do with that very similar issue, a kind of humility that, though very endearing, is an blockage and it creates a contrast and that contrast that you share with these others is not necessarily a negative or destructive item but it is a challenge to find balance between the extremes of the contrast. You know if for example your shyness becomes overwhelming you would not perform at all.
Peter: Yes
Kris: But you also feel, that if you go to the other end of that extreme and become a literal rock star in your field then indeed you might loose that innate quality and beauty that is expressed through your music and you would simply produce for the sake of production and sales and you would loose touch with that innate beauty that is part of your work. So you are indeed trying to find that middle ground. You are involved with music. One [focus] is involved with another one of your focuses is involved with her talents.
Peter: Aha.
Kris: And the other one male, is a furniture maker.
Peter: Oh (chuckling).
Kris: The other female is, we will use the ancient term of priestess, which also means a sacred prostitute, not the kind of prostitute you see on Hollywood Boulevard, but the kind that helps either a man or woman connect with deities through acts of sacred intimacy. There are issues that carry through these lifetimes that, we do not want to say that cause you to question, but through those issues you question your capacity, as if you are second guessing if you really are good. Do you understand?
Peter: Yes
Kris: As if there is a part of you that still doubts. But this actually is what you make it to be. Does that make sense to you?
Peter: Yes, because I have this sacred priestess of this past focuses because I have on one hand, I like to be Tumold and heal people by my corporeal existence and the furniture maker. I like to play violin because it is very much doing something with your hand it’s like handicraft…
Kris: As is the furniture maker, as is the sacred prostitute.
Peter: Yes it is funny…
Kris: So all of these including your expressions are very tactile very much into, not only for you to feel of your instrument as an extension of who you are, but your entire organism is part of your violin, it is not separate from you.
Peter: That’s right.
Kris: So the idea that you might still be second guessing your abilities do not necessarily consume you, but that is an issue that you have not entirely addressed. It is a kind of self doubt, it disappears when you put… what do you call this? (Kris is lifting is right arm)
Peter: The bow.
Kris: Indeed, on to the strings and then there is nothing in the universe but the sound that makes from the contact.
Peter: Right (chuckling). That’s true.
I have to overcome my self doubts, I think.
Kris: Indeed, it is not an arduous process, it is not extremely difficult. Utilize the ‘Triple ‘A’ Method’, that we described in various sessions and examine, what you are concentrating upon. The Triple ‘A’ will assist you in recognizing perhaps even where the self doubt comes from or how it manifests in your life and impedes your direction and how to acknowledge, address and accept and you will find that there are indeed deep transformations that occur from within because by the accepting the doubts no longer fight with you as you fight with them, but instead transform into additional energy for your work and talent. When you spend a mouth of energy fighting with and arguing with your self doubt and denying it you are taking energy away from your projects. Do you follow that?
Peter: Yes. So I have to admit that I have some self doubts in a way (chuckling).
Kris: In a way, yes and in that recognition you can either see immediately feelings, emotions that may even give you ideas to perhaps when you started the self doubting whether as a child or as an adolescent or whether other issues in your life came and appeared to be the cause of the self doubt. They were indeed only the expression of that self doubt for you to become aware of. You can definitely make you solve and call upon all of the ‘Sisters of Consciousness’ to assist you in that area, as the sisters represent various aspects of your own personality structure and it would be easy for you to look at what is going on in your consciousness in three dimensional real time terms and for you to then to take action. Does that make sense?
Peter: Yeah. I always liked the idea of the 9 sisters from the first time I heard of it.
Kris: The concept is not new it has been in your world and in many other worlds for a very long time and over time and ages it gets hidden behind additional symbolism and interpretations. They are indeed various aspects of a personality structure and when activated by being called upon it literally can be a situation where the action of calling upon their assistance sets up a magical mechanism where you only have to respond to the situations and thus follow easily the unfolding of your progress.
Peter: I think this is a good approach for me to work with the 9 sisters. I had four sisters as a boy and I liked it and so 9 sisters are even better (laughing).
Kris: The Romans and the Greeks referred to them as the muses.
Peter: Muses, yeah that’s what I thought.
Kris: The ancient Vedic culture the Tibetans also referred to them both as Dakinis. Each culture gives it variations but the core identity is similar and they are indeed aspects of the human personality structure. So it is a tool that can be of immense benefit! You have already benefited in certain ways.
Peter: I think so, yes.
Kris: Indeed.
Peter: Yes, because it was sometimes such a stress the last year with my getting famous in my hometown and then I called upon Balance and Harmony. I think it worked, there might have been some problems otherwise, I think. It was a help already. Because it is quite a stress to become famous I noticed (laughing), you have to be quite balanced.
Kris: You have then an image to maintain indeed.
Peter: Yeah, because in summer I was big and then in harvest the audience was less, it was quite a bit of a pain already you know and sometimes it might be that this is the problem of being famous that after a while perhaps the people won’t love you anymore, and this is what I might fear, but I don’t think that I fear it so much, I think that I’m capable to be famous because I enjoy it and I, for me it’s a matter of feeling my Divine self, because I love this heroic dimension, this what you said, I feel heroic myself, I feel more than, when I put myself on the big posters I liked it and I put it everywhere in my town and like this you feel more than just this body and I loved this. But perhaps it is important to keep in mind that everybody is a hero and everybody is a star, that’s what I thought when I came down here, everybody is a star really and it is up to us to feel our star-ness in a way.
Kris: That is correct. And the heroic dimension is a very large field, an inner dimension, where the origins of that unique Expression of Essence literally plays with concepts that are not necessarily available in the physical dimension but that gets translated into the physical dimension and by necessity gets reduced somewhat through distortions simply out of necessity but that still great power and fire and energy exists in that heroic dimension can always be tapped into. But not everyone remembers.
Peter: I think we as musicians have a bit the task to remember, to remind our audience of this fire which is within each of us.
Kris: Indeed, if you look at ancient cultures, with the Bards. Their task was not only, to bring news from other areas, but to communicate through their words, their poetry, their songs and their music. And they indeed were revered in many ways as they not only brought news or entertainment. They brought a magical quality to the often overworked peasants.
Peter: And this is what I like. I like to give this to the working people. I always had this heart for the working people because I was raised in such luxury, more or less luxury. I want to give the working people some release from their suffering. Do you think this is …
Kris: The term we understand perfectly well and it is this what people join into when they listen to music. It lifts them out of and makes them forget their turmoils and their traumas of everyday life and music has an ability, very similar to sex. It enters the mind and it carries the individual to that heroic dimension.
Peter: That’s what I think! Early in my life I had this impression. I was so touched by your material because it reminded me of when I was a young man. I was so inspired and had this fire to bring joy to the people and teach them a little bit to have fun and to accept themselves. You know that seems to be an intent in my life: to bring joy to the people.
Kris: Indeed and music is an excellent venue to do this. It has been used for a very long time in your human history. Not only with the recent decades and centuries but as far back as human kind can remember.
Peter: Just being curious. You talk about these millions of years of human history; has there been a history when it was possible to amplify the instruments like we can do it today, electric amplification, has that been in history before somewhere?
Kris: Not necessarily with the methods that are used today but understanding the placement of specific instruments in a group but also modifying the environment or creating an environment that naturally amplifies sound. Sometimes it may indeed have required moving stones in order to create that acoustic where sound literally penetrates the listener. You have something very similar to this with ancient Stonehenge.
Peter: Aha.
Kris: The placement of the stones is not only for solar or lunar events such as equinoxes and so on.
Peter. But acoustic.
Kris: Indeed.
Peter: That’s great. They had music ceremonies there as well I suppose.
Kris: Definitely, some of the ancient temples for instance on the island of Malta, there is a very old temple carved out of stone, out of pure stone, that still exists and is well known underneath the Earth and accessible to tourism. It is called the Hypogeum. A fascinating construction since the stone itself is of extreme hardness, considered impossible to have en-carved at the time that it is understood to have existed, the Bronze Age. Bronze tools are not capable of carving that type of stone and yet it is possible to see it was carved. The acoustics in those chambers are stunning.
Peter: Aha, interesting.
Kris: There is an ancient, in fact many ancient temples in Egypt. One particular is called the Osireum. That was not only a temple to Osiris, but the manner in levels which water was allowed to come into specific channels would have created phenomenal acoustics so that the priests chanting sounded as if it came from another world and no point of origin could be found.
Peter: Great (chuckling).
Kris: There are many such ancient temples throughout the world. Sound for the ancients was extremely important.
Peter: Do I have any famous focuses as a musician of any kind in the future or past.
Kris: (10 seconds break) From our perspective we believe that occasionally you feel/have felt a certain resonance with well known musicians, but not that they were any focuses of your specifically, but that your expressions in those times were enchanted by the music of those performers and composers which led you to create, as your own individual focus, to create a music that may indeed in part resemble one or an other musician or composer but is entirely and uniquely your own.
Peter: This is what I think is very important for me, that I always try to create music which is uniquely my own, this is true!
Kris: Please feel free to continue.
Peter: I like this Kris material and Elias and Seth and sometimes I have the feeling I could work together with my abilities as a musician to make it known to the people. Do you see there any probability? Because if I would get well known as a musician I could talk about this material and help to make it known to as many people as possible.
Kris: There are definitely possibilities where you could either through your music, such as you have done with the 9 sisters or in as a public figure mention what are some of your inspirations. We would suggest to you, that you find out exactly what your impulses are before you say; explain what some of your sources of inspiration are. There might be occasions when the listener or listeners would loose interest because it might not resonate with them even though they might resonate with your music. And then there might be definitely situations where your mention would inspire others. So simply balance out what is appropriate for you at any given time.
Peter: I see. What perspectives do you see in the cooperation with Karin and me? I think Karin is very important for me to have put me on the track for spirituality in my life and I always would like to work with her as a business person and do you see there any possibilities in that respect?
Kris: There definitely are and it is up for you to work out the details, where your goals are directing you, what kind of additional energy and companionship you add to your adventure. Work out the issues and then see to the formalization of such contracts in any way you find comfortable for yourselves. For instance it would also quite likely be a disservice if your understandings become very rigid. It will go counter to your intent with your music, so find ways to be flexible and how both of you can work with those specific goals. The two of you have had a similar challenge in that particular focus where you are a carpenter. In that your self doubts especially early on would have overcome your talents. Especially since in that focus your father particularly was quite adamant that you would go and become educated, whilst you had no such talent and you intuitively understood that there were forms and designs and beauty in the relationship between your hands and wood, that you could bring this out much like the sculptor sees his or her creation in the block of marble and remove everything that is not that beauty. Do you follow?
Peter: Yes.
Kris: Karin was very instrumental in persuading you to follow your heart, even if it’s meant that you might endure perhaps even years of a lower standard of living, even if it meant poverty initially. You lived by what your heart expressed. Does that make sense to you? That relationship can be revived in your imagination in your feelings to bring back that balance.
Peter: And was it a romantic relationship as well in those days?
Kris: Indeed, now she did have an advantage in that she was bigger than you and she could easily kick your butt.
Peter: (Laughing) In those days.
Kris: Indeed, to convince you that you need not despair even if everything did not happen today, and in the end you realized that her efforts and her sacrifices paid off. You began to produce beautiful works of art through wood through manipulating, arranging the forms in the wood as well as making furniture beautiful but practical.
Peter: Aha, the same what I want to do in this focus!
Kris: Indeed. This time your instrument is your violin.
Peter: Yes, that’s true. And I have to have a good product that appears to me now after I came to Hollywood, it has to be a good product to sell because it is necessary…
Kris: That is correct.
Peter: Otherwise I couldn’t share my music!
Kris: You have a website.
Peter: Yes.
Kris: Polish it up. Make it as appealing as possible.
Peter: Yes.
Kris: You provide some small samples of your music through it and if you desire ask both Joseph and Janaki or Paul if through their own website they might also assist in promoting your website, your music. Find other people who might be able to connect in a similar manner, so that more and more is available. If possible also explore the potential of selling through Amazon.com. You may ask Paul, how this might also work since his CD “Mindscape” is available too. Utilize the creativity of all of those whom you come in contact with. That is your part of the bargain, work at it. The universes part of the bargain is to bring fruit for your work. Do you understand?
Peter: Yes, I have to do connections, I should not be shy.
Kris: That is correct.
Peter: I have to make connections. I have to get involved with people.
Kris: Indeed. When you meet people say: “Hello, I am Peter, I am a good musician”.
Peter: … (Chuckling).
Kris: You see, already you’re shy!
Peter: (chuckling).
Kris: You see, if a prostitute is shy about her product she would not have customers, do you understand?
Peter: (laughing) Yes.
Kris: So you must in some way get your products, your personality out there.
Peter: Yes, this is very important.
Kris: That is correct. It requires being assertive, even slightly aggressive in a gentle manner, being firm. You are a strong personality! But there are times when you shy away from that. Cultivate it!
Peter: Good advise. Thank you (expressing joy)!
You want to have a look for the time?
Kris: What is the time?
Karin: Two minutes before…
Kris: That is fine.
Peter: Did we meet in any of our focuses?
Kris: You are familiar with Hildegard von Bingen?
Peter: Ja, Hildegard von Bingen.
Kris: Indeed. You listened to her compositions?
Peter: Not yet.
Kris: Take the time to do so. You might find this is an additional inspiration. Hildegard is a unique shared focus of ourselves and others. You were at that time involved in that creation, in that reality. You are often awe struck by the intelligence and the intellect and the creative powers of Hildegard. You were part of the order she was establishing in her Abbey as an Abbes. You were often able to volunteer your voice as a singer for her music.
Peter: Oh (chuckling).
Kris: Her music was very demanding on the lungs.
Peter: Aha.
Kris: It was not uncommon for the singers to faint.
Peter: Oh, you had to do some practice for this (chuckling).
Kris: Take the time to investigate Hildegard’s music and you’ll quite likely feel déjà vu, resonances, vibrations and almost an awakening of some vague memories from deep within, because that focus was very much involved in her especial music.
Peter: Interesting.
Kris: Do you have any last final questions?
Peter: Sometimes I feel that I’m a musician from the future, is there an important future focus I could get in contact with in this field of artistic creation or something?
Kris: Indeed, your intent today is to promote and get your music to a larger audience. In your quiet meditations ask your inner self through the use of your Essence name, use it as a mantra to get in touch with that tone and ask that you be visually, imaginatively drawn, say in ten fifteen years, into the future, with the development of your intent for a wider audience, what is occurring in that 10, 15 or even 20 years from now, with larger audiences and sales and promotions and the freedom, the financial freedom to create even more amazing music. Do you understand?
Peter: Yes
Kris: Take the time to explore that future self.
Peter: Future self of this life, you mean?
Kris: That is correct.
Peter: OK.
Kris: And we believe that may inspire you even more. In fact why not feel for the music that that future self has created, so that you can sow the seeds now.
Peter: Interesting.
Kris: Play with the concepts of time, because in that moment of meditation it is occurring now.
Peter: Excuse me what was my Essence name, I just forgot it?
Kris: You will listen to it, the recording.
Peter: Yes OK. I should say thank you very much, that was very pleasant and interesting and I hope I will meet you again some time.
Kris: Indeed. (To Karin:) And when it is time for your telephone session you know what to expect. You know what kind of questions you can formulate.
Karin: I think I work it out.
Kris: That is Correct.
Karin: My English is not so well like Peter’s but otherwise…
Kris: You may ask for assistance. We’d not mind if both of you share that session, it is up to you.
Karin: I’m very happy that I get it.
Kris: Indeed. Do you think that was a coincidence?
Karin: (laughing) No, I think it’s what I need.
Kris: That is correct. Now then we give you all of the blessings that are ours to give and if there are additional blessings to be had you will have to be kind and give them to yourselves. And do enjoy your visit here!
(Session ends.)
Twilight in Castaic – A Group Walk
February 12, 2006
Kris Chronicles
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Ellen Gilbert (Kwaa’Ji)
Recorded in Castaic, California on February 12, 2006
Roll call: Serge (Joseph), Mark (Philip), Paul H. (Janaki), Jo (Rosalie), Paul T. (Antolian), Ellen (Kwaa’Ji), Ester (Benata), Victoria, Alan (Regoronn)
[ELLEN'S NOTES: Kris had requested several weeks earlier that the facilitators and some participants might find some time after the end of the weekend workshop "Discover Your Passionate Self" to take a walk together. "Kris walks," are something that Serge and Mark enjoy immensely during the summer weather in Toronto, Kris often coming through with material for the dream book he is dictating, or the newsletter, special material unrelated to the regular weekly sessions, or just pleasurable, intimate chats.
The California weather was perfectly beautiful and we had just enough time before sunset, so after cleaning up the clubhouse where the workshop was held and climbing into three cars, our little group headed up to a nearby small park, directed there by Paul.]
KRIS: Now we trust that you have had a very nice weekend!
ALL: Oh, yes, indeed! Wonderful!
KRIS: May we inquire as to some of the insights that you have harnessed from your interactions during this weekend?
PAUL H.: Well, I discovered that my pool is open! (Group laughter) My pool is open. That was the wonderful thing from the two practices, yesterday and today. 1
MARK: I discovered that you’re full of surprises!
(Group laughs)
KRIS: Indeed!
ELLEN: I discovered that group chanting can cure a headache. (And it did!)
ALAN: (Slyly) You can’t keep a secret! 2 (Delighted laughter)
KRIS: We must take it then that we will never live this down!
(Laughter)
JO: I discovered that you can’t keep a secret! (Somehow Jo missed it when Alan made the same reference, probably because she and I had appointed ourselves on dog poop alert, and were carefully watching the ground while walking ahead of the others.)
ELLEN: (To Jo:) Yeah, that was just mentioned.
JO: Oh!
MARK: Stay with the tour!
(Everyone cracks up)
KRIS: There is obviously an echo in the group!
JO: I discovered that I’m an “Element Caretaker,” and that I have a propensity for it. 3
KRIS: Indeed you have very excellent nurturing qualities.
PAUL: Amen to that!
ALAN: One thing I noticed after all the exercises that was a lesson to me, was not judging people by their initial appearance.
KRIS: Indeed, and if you continue in that same vein, you will also notice that you are far less critical and judgmental of your own self as a result.
ALAN: Yes.
KRIS: The observation towards others IS an observation towards self. The whole gist of the weekend was simply to facilitate venues through which each of you can explore the definition of Self in different ways, different formats, and gather different harvests than you normally do. It is very easy to eventually become complacent and far too familial with the manner in which you normally read, discuss, and exchange information. And every once in a while, a shift of perspectives can add greatly to your own intent, assisting you to discover that intent is not one thing, but many things, and each of those many things is multi-faceted in itself.
A true conundrum, as each of you are. There are many mysteries yet that the mind has to discover. There are treasures of mind, and treasures of soul. There are many stories to say and tell, and the group performances yesterday and today also aptly illustrate the possibility that your stories are never truly told, that you describe in your living certain lines, and perhaps even paragraphs and occasionally chapters, of YOUR story. Does that make sense?
ALL: Oh yeah, yes.
KRIS: And in the true fashion of the author, this is a never-ending story and the mysteries keep revealing themselves, because when you discover them, the realization that you are the mystery that you seek is right there in your being, and the very fact that you ARE Being, as we suggested, is an answer to many of the questions that you ask.
The very notion of walking on this soil, on the grass, feeling the texture beneath your shoes, the sounds that your shoes make through the grass, the movement of your limbs, the breathing, the sights that you see, all appear separate and perhaps even disjointed and disconnected from each other, but they are a continuous flow of experience. And this is not difficult to grasp or understand, just as your life, and all of your lives are a continuous flow of experience.
Each moment point in that experience a majestic, cherishable, and most sacred venture, the creation of worlds done both for play, for experience is, in our humble opinion, the play of the gods. You are here walking in this small park, in this city, in this state and in this country, on this continent, on this planet, and your awareness is rather tightly focused upon each of the moments, one step ahead of the other, without realizing that simultaneously you create the experiences of untold worlds.
There are galaxies underfoot, just as there are galaxies to which YOU are underfoot. And there is no confusion in any of those statements. If we can, in some humble manner, assist in those realizations, then indeed we are very happy. Does anyone have questions?
PAUL H.: I just wanted to comment that my experience over the weekend….the profound emotional connection and releasing and….as I do my own Triple ‘A’-ing of that process, and what makes that happen is seeing a group of people come together in real time, physical proximity, energetically, and it’s a very important part of the overall program to have as far as balance and harmony goes. It was very joyous to do that, and I was reminded of that, when people get together as groups.
KRIS: Indeed.
ELLEN: I found the face-to-face contact how…..how much better that is, even when you’ve gotten to know each other online and on the phones over the last few years….the contact, the physical contact.
PAUL T.: I will echo that in that I was very appreciative of the opportunity to do something which under normal circumstances I don’t, which was to re-animate that tribal sense of belonging and mystical connection, which we in this group are taking from the voodoo realm if you will, of unknown daemons into a truly transpersonal, transformative event in being conscious of all of that, and I was just so very honored to be part of it.
KRIS: Indeed, the honor was our own to be part of your lovely beings and your experiences thereof.
MARK: Were all the participants here participating in the Chrodaora focus? 4
KRIS: Not necessarily so. There were some mild distortions in that communication, but nonetheless, their interpretations still satiated a portion of the life that they needed to observe. 5
Any observations or comments when we went to each of you? 6
JO: Yes, I have had a persistent cough this week and I had a coughing fit (laughs) as soon as you touched me so I took it as a signal to myself that there are some reparations to make there in those areas energetically.
KRIS: Even though you have been in association with ourselves for some time — other Essences as well — there is still a portion of you that likes to take a step back, that likes to blend into the greenery so to speak, and often be unassuming, whilst in truth you should be taking a step forward and not discounting your own abilities or greatness, and perhaps the disappearing voice, and the hacking, was a reminder that your voice too needs to be heard. Does that make sense?
JO: (Very loudly:) Yes it does! Thank you!
(Laughter among the group)
PAUL H.: I had a little bit of a headache — pre-headache — in the exact spot on my right side of my head where you touched there, with the shoulder, and it’s an interesting (ironically:) COINCIDENCE that drew my attention to that area energetically — and it’s still partially with me, but in a very small way — but it was the noticing of an energetic –
KRIS: You are often of two bodies, in that you have a strong intellect. You are recognizing over the years that you also have a strong emotional aspect and there is still often a reluctance on your part to allow the strong emotional aspect to poke its head out of the box. Does that make sense?
PAUL H.: Indeed! Yesterday was very much a releasing of just that….and just going with that and opening that…and ENJOYING that and being in a GROUP of people where I could freely do that. It amplified itself, brought my noticing, my attention, to just that.
ESTER: I had an interesting — in my realization at that moment — I had just visualized my Essence as becoming personalized and he was asking me to come and give him a hug. And it was at that moment that you put your hands on my head — (laughs) — and on my shoulder, it was a very powerful.
KRIS: Indeed, there are no coincidences and only beautiful arrangements.
ALAN: Along that line, I had a thought after something Paul had mentioned about the great release of energy within the group and almost a sense of giddiness took over even the first evening…you could just look around and tell that everybody was brimming over with energy and it was being released. And mentally I wanted to draw some kind of a parallel with an emotional release going on just down the highway where they are rioting in a prison and have been for weeks now 7 ….and it struck me that there was some kind of a matrix — I mean that’s a release of energy of a slightly different character — but my mind is always compelled to tie those types of events together and look for a common thread.
KRIS: Indeed, as most of your species does, you are after all experts in analytical processes of one kind or another. Even though the methods, the rituals, the events have their own sweetness during the weekend, it is what those methods will eventually entice each individual to reach for that is of importance. The others are simply doorways. Everything you did this weekend were doorways to greater adventures.
(Addressing Victoria) Now you are very silent, Little One. 8
VICTORIA: (Giggling)
PAUL: She’s new to all of this.
KRIS: Indeed, but not as new as you think!
(Laughter)
KRIS: You have a great sensitivity to music, correct?
VICTORIA: Yes.
KRIS: And when Peter fiddled 9 you withdrew within and you listened to that music, correct?
VICTORIA: Yes.
KRIS: But you did not only listen with your ears, you listened with your bones, and with your heart, and with your skin, and your body, correct?
VICTORIA: Yes.
KRIS: We would greatly encourage you to explore more of the effects of such musical compositions. Not necessarily for their impact upon you, but for what the music, the notes and the silences between the notes will awaken within you. You have, in other focuses, or other lives, played many different instruments to one degree or another, but the greatest experiment in instrument for this lifetime, is the body. We do not know if that makes sense to you, but it may make more sense as the years go by. You also are very empathic. You relate very well to what others tell you about their lives, correct?
VICTORIA: Yes.
KRIS: It is easy for you to picture being in their shoes, walking their mile, suffering their suffering, and enjoying their joys. Is that not so?
VICTORIA: Yes.
KRIS: As time goes by you will have the choice to explore and even continue expanding upon those abilities. There are many different options that might be available to you in ways to assist others to understand that they are not powerless victims of life, but joyous conquerors of any of their challenges. Perhaps in a few years from now you might remember these words and they might influence your direction. Above all things, regardless of the appearances, keep your heart open and loving. Are there other questions or comments….or challenges?
(Laughter)
PAUL T.: No challenges, just an observation. The energetic rush that I got…I was quite unprepared for. I’ve done energy work in the past, but I’m a little bit unsure what to do with this information and the assistance that you gave. I’m sure it was purposeful in some manner –
KRIS: Indeed! You will find what is right for you to do with it, if nothing else than to keep shaving! 10
(Everyone laughs)
PAUL T.: I did just for you today!
KRIS: Indeed! It is always, and has always been, a pleasure to spar with you in any fashion. We have played the role of adversary; we have played the roles of friends; we have played the roles of scoundrel and knave –
PAUL T.: Oh!
KRIS: — and had many a good beer in many a great pub and tavern!
PAUL T.: Ah! (laughs) As is my wont!
KRIS: In some respects, this particular existence of yours, this Expression of your Essence, is to consolidate, contemplate, and enjoy as simply as possible what life has to offer before you take off on other experiences and make merry wherever you can find merry to make!
(Group laughter)
PAUL T.: Yes, I in actuality have been considering that, and I believe some of my other dimensional excursions here are allowing me a peek through the keyhole to see where I might want to go next.
KRIS: Indeed. Then, if that is all, we would gladly return Joseph to you, so that he can recuperate from almost doing nothing during the weekend!
(Group laughter)
KRIS: And yet, without his allowance, nothing could have been done! So for that, we are grateful and you may tell him that as soon as we return him to you.
ALL: Thank you, Kris.
KRIS: You bless us with your presence.
(Session ends)
Endnotes:
1 Paul’s note: during the Saturday morning session, Kris did a wonderful guided meditation in which he used the metaphor of essence as a pool that we could dive into. Someone later asked Kris about this particular practice, noting that his pool “was closed” much to the amusement of some of us. So my comment took all of that into consideration, and I was delighted to discover during meditation that my “pool” was open.
Coincidentally, the workshop took place in our community clubhouse right by our swimming pool. The weather was in the 80s both days, so neighbors were using the pool both afternoons, further imagery that the pool is indeed always open!
2 Ellen’s Note: Alan is referring to Kris’ slip-up earlier in the day at the workshop. We discovered it was Peter Bayreuther’s birthday, and Jo and I went out in the morning to get a cake for him. We decided to get two dozen cupcakes and some candles, brought them back and slipped them surreptitiously into the kitchen. Jo had told Serge and Mark that we were planning a little birthday celebration, but apparently didn’t mention it was a surprise, so when Kris was finished with his monologue, he announced break time and said, “We understand there will be a small birthday celebration.”
Jo, who was sitting in the back with me, nearly swallowed her gum, as we used to say in high school. “Damn! I don’t believe he just did that! It was supposed to be a surprise!” We got up together, figuring the surprise was completely ruined, but I couldn’t help but laugh. “Nice going, Kris! Shit!” I snapped, and stamped my foot. Jo and I ran to the kitchen and fell into paroxysm of laughter. “Some Avatar!” Jo said, “Sees all. Spills all!”
We were nearly falling all over each other now. “Damn dead guy! I could just KILL him!” I raved. But the celebration went on, everyone had a great time, and Peter played again for us on his electric violin. Later, when Kris came back, he apologized for letting the cat out of the bag.
3 Ellen’s note: Jo was a sort of Mistress of Ceremonies, directed by Kris during the Saturday morning workshop ritual of thanksgiving to the Earth and of our gathering, and he bestowed upon her that honorary title. The elements were represented through oleander leaves, water, grapes, and white sand on a large plate.
4 Mark’s note: Saint Chrodaora was a focus of Kris.
http://www.krischronicles.com/transcripts2/saintchrodora-jan-11-03.html [January 11, 2003]
5 Mark’s note: On Saturday night after the first day of the workshop, a group of people gathered in one of the rooms. They had borrowed a Ouija Board from Joanne and had made contact with Kris and others. Someone asked if everyone in the room had a focus during the Saint Chrodaora focus and the answer from the board was “Yes”.
6 Mark’s note: Kris is referring to a point near the end of the workshop when he went around the room to each participant as we meditated, and touched each one of us, one hand on a shoulder, the other on each head.
7 Paul’s note: there is a maximum security prison a couple of miles away from us called the Pitchess Detention Center. During the preceding week there had been riots in which several inmates were killed and dozens injured. The causes were overcrowding of rival Latino and African gangs. There was another flare-up during the weekend of the workshop, but on a much smaller scale.
I felt as if the positive, loving energy expressed by the thirty or so people who attended our Open House and the Kris Workshop helped to quell the violent impulses from nearby. Though I didn’t know it at this time, the situation finally calmed down shortly thereafter. In physical terms, local authorities identified and isolated a small number of extremely violent gang members, and took extra efforts to separate gang members in more communal holding areas.
8 Paul’s note: Victoria is Ester’s niece, and only fifteen years old, though she looks much older. She is anything but little, as she stands approximately 5’7″. Ester was walking with her arm around Victoria, who had just finished her first exposure to this sort of phenomenon. So Kris referred to her in this familial context.
9 Paul’s note: Kris refers to Peter Bayreuther who attended the workshop all the way from Melle, Germany. Peter is a world-class violinist, songwriter, and musician. He played two his songs on Sunday from his new CD on The Nine Sisters: Joy & Love. He was accompanied by his wife, Karin, who also sings and dances.
For more info, see: www.kindervomuniversum.de
10 Mark’s note: This is a continuation of a joke between Paul Tews and Kris. The two of them shared a focus where they were old Chinese men who often sat around playing Mahjong. Paul’s focus personality often had rice stuck in his beard.
http://www.krischronicles.com/transcripts2/soundlets3-aug23-04.html [August 23, 2004]
Sound Energy / UGUUR
February 12, 2006
Kris Chronicles
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Ellen Gilbert (Kwaa’Ji)
Recorded in Castaic, California on February 12, 2006
Roll call: Serge (Joseph), Mark (Philip), Paul (Janaki), Jo (Rosalie), Ellen (Kwaa’Ji), and Alan (Regoronn).
[ELLEN'S NOTE: This was a surprise pop-in by Kris Sunday evening. We were sitting comfortably in the Helfrich's living room. We had just had some delicious Chinese take-out and were sipping wine, enjoying each other's company, stimulating conversation, and basking in the warm afterglow of a wonderful, most successful two-day experience, the "Discover Your Passionate Self" workshop. We had also enjoyed an intimate walk with Kris through a nearby park just preceding our dinner, so we certainly weren't expecting any more channeling performances after such an intense and certainly fulfilling day.
[Alan brought up the topic of some new experimentation being done with sound propulsion: using sound to move vehicles or other machinery. A moment or two later, Serge said that Alan's words had caused a sudden huge up-rush of energy for him, and he gestured towards his midsection, drawing his hand upwards. The next thing I knew, Mark was running for the recorder, Serge was attaching his microphone to his shirt, and Kris was once again joining us.]
KRIS: Indeed, it looks like we are privileged once again with your lovely presences!
(Laughter)
PAUL: You can’t get rid of us!
KRIS: We would not want to, even if we tried! (Pause) The idea that sound can be utilized to produce energy is well worth investigation. Now, your concept of sound as in – you hear sound from this voice box as it reverberates against your eardrum and inner ears, etc. – is only ONE SMALL FACET of that phenomenon.
Light is also another kind of sound, but it does not produce the same effects as, say, this voice box. But light emits sound, and it is that energy – because sound is energy – that energy can be utilized and transferred through a process that is being uncovered, but under the guise of light only, which is not a problem. But eventually your sciences will uncover this new/ancient science again, as it was utilized many thousands of years ago.
MARK: Is it that light gives off sound, or that light is a by-product of sound?1
ALAN: It’s all vibration. Just different frequencies.
KRIS: Both of them are the product of what we call “soundlets”2 – simply different perspectives on the source. For instance, there are now watches that use photonic energy to generate thousands of oscillations per second to create or generate sufficient energy to keep the watch ticking. Now that process is encapsulated in a very small physical area through rings that reverberate as a result of photonic energy reaching those chambers.
Imagine then, something that is barely one-eighth to one-quarter inch in diameter suddenly the size of football fields that can generate sufficient energy to feed thousands of people’s homes. And it can be underground, because those oscillations do not produce reverberations the way a jackhammer might, because all of the sound energy is then focused towards unique chambers through which that energy is transformed into consumables. Does that make sense to you?
ALAN: Are you speaking in a way of harmonics?
KRIS: In a similar manner, but slightly different as well. Harmonics can also be tapped, but your scientists do not know how to tap into it. When your sciences can tap into this, then enormous amounts of energy can again be extrapolated through tapping into the harmonics of your own planet as it is harmoniously balanced in celestial symphonies between your planet and its satellite, other planets and their satellites, etc., but that is for another age, not one you will see in your lifetimes.
It has been done3 before and has caused problems because of misuse of that energy by hungry and greedy warmongers. As your species learn, you recognize that certain adventures cannot be gotten into until such a time as, species-wise, you learn to absorb and properly situate your own tendencies toward aggression, because you have let them lead and consume you for a very long time without properly understanding those energies4. Does that make sense as well?
(Yes)
So there is a specific kind of scale that your species utilizes to gauge where the species itself is at with those responses. And until you can learn collectively to investigate other avenues to work out your differences than bombing your neighbors the minute the neighbor opens its mouth – even before you hear what is coming out – none of such devices and implementations can be admitted into general consciousness. Does that make sense?
(Yes)
It is possible, for one individual – or any individual – to stand where they are, say in an open field, and to allow their consciousness to tap deep into the Earth as if they were plunging a rod of awareness into the core through the mantle of the planet, getting in touch with all of the life-forms that root into the soil, for instance. Tapping into the awareness of tree lives and understanding the processes involved in transforming the energy sucked up from the roots all over the planet at any given time, sucked up the trunks and transformed into photosynthesis and released into the atmosphere.
Now THAT is an atomic generator if ever there was one! And it does NOT harm the environment or individuals, but enhances and permits life. If your species were to become so foolish as to consume all of the trees on your planet, your species would die within ten years. Does that also make sense?
MARK: Why does it feel like we’ll be dead in twenty? (Laughs)
KRIS: Not necessarily so. At the same time, never underestimate the potential for human consciousness to make recognition and retribution along those lines. Rectifications, corrections – to nudge itself back with the understandings of the relationships of one life-form to another. The main problem is that human species has…(pause)…UNFELT itself from its relationship with nature. Can we say that word? Do you understand its meaning?
PAUL: A dissociation.
KRIS: It has UNFELT itself.
ELLEN: Emotional disaffection.
KRIS: Indeed! It thought, in this line of experimentation, that if it divorced itself and villainized nature that somehow or other it might come out of the experience somehow or other magnificently transformed, only to begin to realize that it CAN do so, but to its utter detriment and destruction. Imagine a human being thinking that there is an object in its chest that keeps thumping away and disturbing its thoughts!
ELLEN: (With a shuddery laugh) Oh, god!
KRIS: Thus, perhaps the solution is to REMOVE that which causes thumping! So you can understand the powerful dilemma that presents itself to consciousness at all levels when such collective thinking starts snowballing – because it SEEMS like a logical idea! – Whilst in truth it is truly only experimental and quite cockamamie at that! This is not to denigrate the potential for experimentation, but when experimentation is done without consideration then you have problems.
And though we are well aware that there are individuals that would SCREAM FROM THE ROOFTOPS THAT WE ARE TRAMPLING SACRED GROUND, such as, “But everything is fine and pretty as it is!” That is only at another layer of consciousness, not the physical reality. In your physical reality as it is, you know very well that your ass will be cooked if you do not get off the stove!
(Group chuckles)
PAUL: That’s right!
KRIS: So we invite those who wish to stay on the stove, to jack up the heat!
ELLEN: (Laughing)
KRIS: It will get it over and done with!
ELLEN: Ha ha ha! Let’s nip it in the bud!
PAUL: Kris, can I ask a question?
KRIS: Indeed, please feel free! We did not mean to barge in or interrupt your lovely discussion, but the topic itself was far too tempting!
ELLEN: Oh, we love it, we LOVE it!
PAUL: You triggered some questions from earlier conversations that are coming back to me now. Two things. First one: in this period hundreds of millions of years ago where our species developed a soundlet technology that was then misused by what you characterized as warmongers, and from what you said earlier, Venus, Mars, other planets, moons were destroyed, have been obliterated. My question is, at that time….first of all I have to say it was really depressing the first time you shared that lineage, or that history, with me, thinking how far we had come so long ago, to have destroyed it all and then…it just starts building up again, hundreds of millions of years later! (Laughs)
(Sympathetic laughter among all of us)
I mean, millions of years go by, which I know is just a blink of the eye of Essence, but from a focus perspective – a lot of work! Anyway, the first question is: In that social structure – the warmongers – were they a different faction than those that developed this technology? I mean, those that developed this technology didn’t do so with this malicious intent in mind; was it hijacked?
KRIS: You have similar phenomenon in this very day and age…
PAUL: Yeah.
KRIS: …where an individual quite by lovely accident creates or discovers a device that is suddenly recognized by the military as containing potential for modification to then use against sometimes its very own people. Look at Tazer technology, which is now being considered in conjunction with microwave technology, used against crowds to contain them.
ALAN: Yes.
(Shocked murmurs)
KRIS: Do you seriously believe that a fanatical individual will hold the trigger ONLY for the two seconds it needs? Or they may wish to see what another two or three or four seconds feels like.
ALAN: That’s microwave for people.
KRIS: Indeed!
ELLEN: Oh, god.
PAUL: So, another example of that would be Al-Qaeda and, let’s just say Osama Bin Laden – if they were to get control of a nuclear submarine – a Pakistani nuclear submarine, which contains twenty-one thermodynamic missile systems – they would not hesitate to use them on their perceived enemy.
KRIS: Indeed.
PAUL: So that is a faction then, that is not able, cognitively – just from our stages of focus development – to invent the technology and maintain it and yet, politically they are able to get their hands on it, so back to this horrific part of our history – hundreds of millions of years ago – so it was something similar to that happened then?
KRIS: Indeed, and though we would be the last to say history repeats itself, there are repetitions that occur in the great halls of your psyches. These ancient footsteps still echo down the corridors of consciousness because there are still many, many in your world that consider such experiments and experiences still valuable as methods to continue exploring; so the collective CAN give that permission. But again, do not underestimate the powers of consciousness, collective and singular, to make adjustments and to edit situations.
PAUL: You said that before, which leads to my second question in this area, and it’s more of a sociological, anthropological, paleontological question: we consider ourselves species-wide as homo sapiens; we have some fossil evidence of Cro-Magnon lineages, and Neanderthal lineages, which are considered human, but are different. These species of three hundred million, five hundred million years ago – the species of that time – would they be considered homo sapiens, or just a species question -
KRIS: That is the terminology given to your species by your scientists in accordance with the Latin cataloguing principles to situate you on the family tree from monkey to man.
PAUL: Right.
KRIS: If we had to change that, we would call YOUR species, Uguur. U, G double U, R. UGUUR (pronounced OO-GOOR) – coming from a branch of consciousness quite removed from monkeys of any kind, but a species exploring the human, or the potential of human form, to work with, to literally manipulate consciousness through the auspices of your ego construction. A worthwhile, valid, and – we would even say – (pause) – perhaps it may sound to you as a strange terminology, but indeed a very KNIGHTLY endeavor. Like…
ELLEN: Chivalrous?
KRIS: Indeed! Very chivalrous in the method in which YOU charge forth and enable experiences to COME FORTH from the very heart of your desire as Essence. So then, we would refer to you as Uguur.
PAUL: And this goes back hundreds of millions of years?
KRIS: Indeed. That lineage has never been broken.
[Mark raises his hand and waives it in Kris' direction.]
PAUL: Mark’s got a question.
KRIS: Indeed.
MARK: Paul and I have had this debate – evolution – and obviously, we do not come from monkeys, but you and I have had conversations about how the first species of any species manifests itself on the planet. I just wanted to confirm how the first Uguur showed up. Did it evolve from something else physical, or did it manifest itself, just…?
PAUL: Did it blink in in a creationist blinking…?
ALAN: Dreamed into reality.
ELLEN: Yeah, dreamed into reality, yeah. (Alan and I are recalling our Seth!)
KRIS: The Uguur were always the Uguur. They may not have had your playing field to play with, but a much vaster field where very few limitations and physics might have hampered or even dampened their creative potential. (Kris’ voice takes on a slow, soft, gentle, and deliberate cadence) But – if we can use the term – one “day” they recognized that their own intent led them to the realization that their reality was far larger than they ever could possibly conceive of and THAT in itself led to untold possibilities.
Those untold possibilities revealed themselves as opportunities to step through various thresholds. And we are simplifying words and descriptions. These possibilities were forever present to their awareness, but not considered as possibilities until they noticed the possibilities themselves. And just as you would walk through a gentle wall of falling water, so did they notice that they could walk right into and through those things they could consider ONLY as possibilities without previously considering that the possibilities could themselves be realities.
This generated untold, un-measurable quantities of excitement, of accelerations; an unleashing of vitality in such a manner that even solar systems and galaxies were created from that moment. The Uguur are what you consider the ‘All That Is’. Such potential was discovered and unleashed that a single tear can contain millions of galaxies. And thus the realities that YOU know were magically formed by unbelievable desire and potential.
ELLEN: When you said the ‘All That Is’ that we know, you’re talking about the ‘All That Is’ of physical reality?
KRIS: We are speaking of ‘All That Is’s’.
MARK: (Chuckling)
ELLEN: (Laughing) ‘All The Is’s’ that Is’s!
PAUL: You’re also talking about what you’ve described as the grid of perception?5
KRIS: Once those potentials and possibilities were discovered to be realities in themselves, they fit into what CAN be compared to a grid of perception, but our description of such a grid would be as inadequate as our description of the Uguur.
MARK: The physical reality as we know it, the world as we know it, didn’t exist before the Uguur.
KRIS: But the Uguur ALWAYS exist; so you always exist. As potential your realities may not have been realized but they always exist.
MARK: But as the theory of evolution goes, the Earth existed many, many millions of years before mankind, but – as what you’re saying, is that it did not – is that mankind -
PAUL: I don’t think he’s saying that.
MARK: That’s why I’m asking.
PAUL: So let me try to frame a question there. Just from our egoic…
KRIS: (Interrupting) …And before you continue, do understand that yet in your literatures there is no such information. Joseph’s mind is in a very, very deep state and it took all weekend to condition it to this state.
PAUL: I understand.6
KRIS: So please proceed.
PAUL: I just wanted to come at it from another angle. From the egoic perspective then, there is an order of play, in Framework 1 only terms. When we are talking about ‘All That Is’s', that includes Frameworks Two, Three, Four, dot dot dot, Quadrant Two, Three, Four, etc.
KRIS: Indeed.
PAUL: But, I’m – just from a Quadrant One perspective, Framework 1 perspective, there IS an order of play in terms of a physical – what we could call physios quality to this grid of perception, and it takes time – and from that an acceleration occurs that would be called bios, where a biological system comes in the order of play, and from that bios or biological, then a noos, or noetic condition emerges that results in focuses of essence being able to manifest only in physical in Framework 1. What I’m asking about is: Is this order of play accurate, or am I way off base, or…?
KRIS: There is definitely an accuracy and there are always specific steps and processes, stages and states, otherwise the very idea that you create – from the wonderful gifts of the Uguur – a conscious ego construction would be irrelevant and you would all be as insane as the most insane amongst you. Does that make some sense? You have to organize perceptions, just as the perceptions of Framework 1 are enabled through some of the perceptions of Framework Two and up.
The potentials of Quadrant One are dependant upon the perceptions of Quadrant Two and Three and Four and Quadrant Four is a kind of catch-all, which would include the Uguur as core light. The question then must come to your mind: if the ‘All That Is’s’ come from the Uguur, where do the Uguur come from? And so on, and so forth. And though you might search for millions upon billions and trillions of years, you all find various nested births and processes because they all exist. The main point is that you recognize that your origins are infinite varieties and not from one singular source as modern religious and even biblical teachings impart.
PAUL: Right, right. Just one question at this point.
KRIS: Indeed.
PAUL: Mark framed his question in the terms of the belief system of evolution, a linear thing, and I then asked this order of play which plays into that, but there’s a complimentary process going on which we could call “involution” – EVOLUTION/INVOLUTION – and I think that’s consistent with what you’re trying to communicate in terms of the fundamental, or primacy, of Uguur as ‘All That Is’s’ is always already as it then translates itself through these quadrant structures – this grid of perception – to manifest as Framework 1, so that it’s complimentary.
There are evolutionary processes in order of play, perhaps in one perspective there IS a monkey that turns into a homo sapiens, in our terms, HOWEVER, that is also – must be understood simultaneously with these involutionary processes throughout these quadrants as you said, are nested…and we’ve barely scratched the surface in understanding.7
KRIS: That is correct. Now we do not perceive “monkeylution”8 as the key to your understandings and you must understand that monkeylution is as much a myth -
PAUL: As Madame Blavatsky’s thesis, for instance.9
KRIS: Indeed.
ALAN: May we return for a moment to the original physics-based question?
PAUL: (Smiling and sitting back) Yeah, I’m done.
ELLEN: (Laughing, to Paul:) You’ve got as much as you can get!
PAUL: (Laughs) Yeah, that’s as much as I can get.10
ALAN: When we originally were speaking in terms of sound and light from our point of view, we think of those in terms of frequencies of vibration, in other words, visible light has a certain frequency in terms of millionths of a wavelength -
KRIS: Indeed.
ALAN: – and sound is twenty to twenty thousand cycles per second, it’s audible, and all these other frequency ranges are in between. And I’m struck by the concept that some physicists are talking about zero point energy, where you take everything down in a supposed vacuum to absolute zero, where all molecular energy would be stopped, yet there is still something going on. In other words, there is no true vacuum.
There is a potential at that point, and the physicist Mark Cummings has said to us in our groups before that his theory is that space itself is not a vacuum, but a plenum, it is a completely FULL state, and what happens from this completely full state of energy is that an imbalance appears and the imbalance is what leads to manifestation in our physical world. And I’m thinking that we would think of this “imbalance”….if there is an absolutely full state, and a flutter, an imbalance happens; then if it happens again, you set up a frequency and the only difference between frequencies is our conception of TIME – It’s fast or slow depending on our ability to perceive.
But….is there something about, for instance, the original concept of sound energy – which got all this discussion started – is there something fundamental to this idea of frequency being what manifests the potential into the experienced that is the nature of sound, light, and these other phenomena or are you suggesting that there’s something to sound, light, what have you, that’s completely FREE of our phenomenal experience of these things in terms of vibrations?
KRIS: (Pause) When units of consciousness – some of which we consider soundlets – blink – in the standard metaphysical terms as you have become accustomed to them – when they BLINK to appear simultaneously in a multitude of dimensions whilst appearing to disappear from as many dimensions simultaneously; you might not yet understand that they are ALSO in an ultra-rapid, just as fast, ROTATION. Thereby, you have double phenomena occurring. The blinking is not only a blinking, but a spinning. So they BLINK literally at ten times what you have possibly imagined before or even more so. That can be understood as a basic fundamental unit of light, which truly is a vibrational sound which can be tapped into to extrapolate unbelievable amounts of energy.
ALAN: But is this blinking only a matter of importance to us who must take time to understand things…? In other words, I guess the idea is, we have to take time to understand things…
KRIS: Indeed.
ALAN: …so rate of vibration makes sense to us. But, is this blinking, from your point of view where time is of lesser relevance, is this in fact blinking at all or is it something else entirely, and the only way we have to understand is…
KRIS: …Is in blinking. There is still an action – a raja – of unbelievable potential. To consider that ONE such soundlet can unleash the potential of a million of your suns is an understatement. And that energy CAN be cultivated, but it will NOT be given until your species understands its own aggressive tendencies and can deal with it in a mature adult-like fashion. Presently you are still caught between the stage of infancy, youth, and adolescence.
PAUL: That’s right.
KRIS: There are so few mature, global individuals as to be almost invisible. They are there however, and they are producing materials that can assist the other three stages to THINK, and use this stuffing between the ears. It is not only tofurkey.11
ALAN: But on the level of environments where thought immediately gives rise to manifestation, and the thought, the energy, is the same thing – the conscious thought IS the energy that creates whatever -
KRIS: It is a form of energy, indeed.
ALAN: So it is only when it trickles down into our level that it gets separated out into things like laws of physics and space and time.
KRIS: Because you need to have such processes and examine them according to your present sciences. So it is also valid and most respectable. We have our own objections on many of these subjects, but overall there is a great deal of validity to the processes you utilize as they are necessary for your stage of development. You are utilizing the sciences as you know, very much in a similar stage as a young teenage boy playing with a chemistry set in his mother’s basement, occasionally blowing a few tables and vases. Does that make some sense to you?
ALAN: Is it fair to say that in your environment your every thought is literally playing with these energies at the levels that you’re describing?
KRIS: (Pause) A distinction has to be made: We are aware of the complete plethora of our thoughts; however, unlike your present perceptions concerning your thoughts, we are aware of their realities, and we are aware of our ability to control and harness that potential. We do not become schizophrenic in the processing of our thoughts, whilst you are still discovering this very subject matter. Your thoughts fascinate you. Our thoughts ALSO fascinate us, but because of their potential, not as an aberration or as an anomaly, but as for the very creative potential each concept in that atmosphere contains. We do not know if that makes any sense to you, but that is the answer we are sticking to!
(Laughter)
PAUL: That’s his story and he’s sticking to it!
KRIS: Indeed.
ALAN: Kris, I’m looking at maybe the relative terms of the power generated by the thought, on the idea that a thought at your level from our point of view is like nuclear fission – with its power and its potential – yet it’s not a problem from your end because you are in charge, in a way, of the reactions.
KRIS: Indeed, we will say that your ideas of nuclear power are, from our perspective, much like soda pop.
ELLEN: (Laughs) Oh, man!
MARK: Shake the can and it explodes.
KRIS: Not in that sense, but simply beautiful effervescence. Does that make sense?
ALAN: Yes.
KRIS: Indeed. (To Paul:) You had a question?
PAUL: Just…you used the phrase, “this technology is for a future time” – the soundlets, high-powered fusion thing, the rods going down into the mantle – ” will not be GIVEN…”
KRIS: Indeed.
PAUL: …”until such time as the species hits a more adult stage of development.”
KRIS: Indeed.
PAUL: So I’m thinking of Steve Lord’s question earlier today about that separation of subjective and objective, and when you make a comment like that it kind of plays into that fear of “Oh, there’s all this knowledge and ability that…”
ELLEN: “Somebody’s ‘controlling’ us.”
PAUL: …we’re just talking about it and…but it can’t be “given,” anyway.
KRIS: Indeed, because of the remembrances of your species’ ability to play with fire and get your fingers burned, individuals will not be born that can play with the notions and develop them until the collective is assured that it is sufficiently safe. Does that make sense?
ELLEN: Yes.
KRIS: In that way, it will not be “given”. When the time is recognized as ripe – by and for the collective – then individuals will take birth that will lead your sciences forward.
PAUL: So…so the “giving” is through a normal Framework 1, Quadrant One process…
KRIS: Indeed.
PAUL: …of development from acorn to sapling to tree, psychologically they start at stage one, but they will develop and cognitively they will be able to make the connection, the “a-ha’s,” and develop the technology.
KRIS: Indeed, because your species is not stuck in Framework 1.
PAUL: Right. I understand that.
KRIS: It exists primordially in Framework Two, Three, Four and beyond. Framework 1 is ONE of the multitudes of sandboxes that you can play with, build sandcastles, and so on. Does that make some sense?
ALAN: Are there species who are actually at the level of being able to use these things? I think the answer would have to be: in some framework, our species DOES utilize them.
KRIS: Indeed! Very much so.
MARK: I have a huge dichotomy, because the Netjer12 told me we keep repeating ourselves, we keep having the same cycles and then you told me that consciousness will never repeat the same experiment twice. And yet, we keep heading – in my perspective…
KRIS: That is correct.
MARK: …towards the same crap.
KRIS: But the dichotomy is not in the information…
MARK: No, it’s in me, I realize that.
KRIS: …because, even though your species may appear to go down the same road, it will eventually take a turn onto another road, create an entirely new history, but the same history is still present as a foundation to take lessons from and still, the same history repeats itself because you are utilizing old ideas, old concepts, old creations, and if your desires and stages of evolution are sufficiently developed, then you will create entirely new situations out of the old. Thus you operate on a multitude of levels all at once. Does that make sense?
MARK: Yeah, it does.
PAUL: And that’s clearer to me from our interactions over the last couple of years, and I just try to summarize it as I-I-I , just to get some levels and different I’s that all work in order to…
KRIS: You would indeed have to not only have horizontal “I’s”, but vertical…
PAUL: Vertical…
KRIS: …and then each “I” on the horizontal has to have a set of its own verticals…
PAUL: Sure.
KRIS: …and each “I” on the vertical would have to have its own set of horizontals!
PAUL: You go boy! (Chuckling) Yeah, yeah, I realize that.
KRIS: Thus you are infinite “I’s”; thus you are Uguur.
ELLEN: You guys, you make it so complicated…
PAUL: Well, I’m just trying t…
ELLEN: I know, I know…
PAUL: … to find the scale, trying to find the do, re, mi, fa, so, la, ti…
KRIS: Indeed.
PAUL: …that all these symphonies come from, so when I talk about I-I-I13 – what he just said is all pregnantly implicit in that structure…
ELLEN: Yeah. (Laughs)
PAUL: …and then, yet it has to be explicit, too.
ELLEN: But still…
PAUL: But it’s not explicit…
ELLEN: Still…it amounts to…what is given or what is not given…is given or not given by OURSELVES to US.
KRIS: Indeed, the gifts that you give to yourselves are most precious. Each occasion of giving is indeed a miracle that you have not blown yourselves out of the water every five minutes.
MARK: Yes.
KRIS: And, if you take anything into your dreams tonight, try and remember the humble and certainly crude and incomplete descriptions of the Uguur. If you wish to engage mind-blowing dreams, then ask the deepest part of yourself to help you express a single molecule of the Uguur and share your dreams tomorrow.
PAUL: Will do.
KRIS: Now with that we will relinquish Joseph to your lovely selves, and may your dreams be simply beautiful.
ALL: Thank you very much, Kris.
[Discussion continued for awhile among the four of us after Kris bowed out. We spoke again of the origin of our species, how does this "blinking in" and "blinking out" occur, and how does it reconcile with the idea of developmental stages as in evolutionary theory. Kris came back once again to comment.]
KRIS: Now, you understand the word “blinking” because it gives you a certain reference and it does not offend your sense of integrity. Had other descriptions been used, your ego construction would have been so offended that you would have shut that down completely, because you still do not fully have the authentic understanding and the feeling and the knowledge. You have it in words only that your reality is not what you think it is. You think it is solid bedrock creation and yet, it is a dream.
We can now easily describe that you four are having a dream that seems to last a whole life long, and yet at another stage of awareness you will awaken and you will share that dream with your companions in complete amazement that you could have thought that it was real in that sense of the word. And yet from the dreamer’s perspective, the walls and the floors and the ceilings, the forms, objects and bodies that you see in this very dream right now where you are pretending to listen to our humble discarnate voice is REAL.
And that yet does not sink to the very core of your being because you are magically enmeshed in your own creation in the same way that the Uguur are enmeshed in their creations of ‘All That Is’; that ‘All That Is’ is enmeshed in the creations of its multiple Essences and all of the multiple Essences are somehow or other enmeshed in the creations of their expressions, and on it goes. And yet, you are such beautiful dreaming creatures; you do not understand your power of dreaming.
PAUL: So you’re saying we had a one-Quadrant view; we have a conceptualization of a four-Quadrant view, but we don’t have a fourth quadrant, we don’t understand it.
KRIS: You view the four quadrants but from a one-dimensional perspective. But whilst you are in that one-dimensional perspective you only see two of its dimensions: yourself and form.
PAUL: I can accept that for the moment.
(We all laugh.)
KRIS: Indeed.
PAUL: (Laughing) It’s okay, from where I’m at and where I’ve been.
KRIS: So do understand that any of the words that you use are still merely that. They are not the realities. They are the ways you use to explain the myths so it makes sense to your present perceptions – and they are marvelous, magical, and majestic perceptions – but they are…perceptions. (Pause) Imagine if you will, that you go play…..golf. (Kris speaks the last word almost with a reverence.)
ELLEN: (Chuckling) Ahhhhh! (My father and oldest brother are both avid golfers, and knowing that Paul too loves to play, I recognize that heavenly addiction. Kris’ voice takes on a softly seductive tone to emphasize the feeling.)
KRIS: And nothing matters but you, the club, the tee, the ball, and the green and that you are so entranced into it that, with the power of your conviction you can hit that ball with that tee and that iron, and off it goes into the eighteenth hole.
ELLEN: (Giggling) From the FIRST green!
ALAN: With three seconds left on the clock!
(We all crack up)
KRIS: (Continuing in that soft and dreamy voice:) And for that moment NOTHING else exists or matters, so powerful is your concentration!
ELLEN: Oh yeah! The zone, the zone!
KRIS: That everything else to you in that moment takes a back seat to that reality and becomes a momentary dream, an illusion, that you may have a job, a family, partners, a community, and so on. And then when that action is done, you come back and then you think THAT was a dream, and everything else is reality. And you play back and forth.
ALAN: So everything has to do with focus, just as we evolve…
KRIS: Absolutely!
ALAN: …our focus gets broader.
KRIS: As you widen that focus, as you widen that awareness, you begin to remember that indeed there is MORE than the green, the tee, the club, the ball. There is family, community, society, etc.
ELLEN: Enlightenment.
KRIS: That is where Satori comes.
ALAN: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi used to say that enlightenment was the Self unfolding itself TO Itself.
KRIS: Indeed it can be said the Self is recognizing itself. It is acknowledging what it is. Does that make sense?
ALAN: Yes, so there was nowhere to go, you were already there. It was just a matter of …
KRIS: Indeed, we could even say simply that IT is recognizing itself. So you are IT.
ELLEN: Oh, Auntie Em, Auntie Em, there’s no place like home!
KRIS: So we do leave, as you should also take rest.
(And thus Kris left the building.)
PAUL: I think he’s sending us to bed.
ELLEN: (Laughing) I think so too!
(Session ends approximately 10:00 PM)
Endnotes:
1 Mark’s note: I asked this question because I was reminded of an earlier session called “The Color of Sound” where Kris says:
“Action, activity, at that layer of consciousness is oftentimes undetectable to both your physical senses and your scientific instruments, simply because it is processed at rates or speeds that defy imagination, that even defy your notions of faster than light. And light itself is a by-product of soundlets transformation. And though light appears to contain no coloration and at the same time is stratified with color, light is a by-product of such a process. Whether you think light is a result of your sun’s processes or otherwise, your scientific research and instrumentation cannot specifically pinpoint the origin of light…nor for that matter can they even pinpoint the origin of life!”
For more info, see: [January 29, 2006]
2 Mark’s note: Kris first introduced “Soundlets” on July 19, 2004 and has expanded upon them on various other occasions.
“… One of these, the concept of sound, encapsulates many foundational blueprints for which became the seeds and the eventual flowering of the Vedic culture or civilization on your plane. We are making these references so that there is an understanding of the depths of the working of consciousness. So, you have then these concepts dealing with sound and sound in itself does not necessarily pertain or have to do with anything that your eardrums and inner ear may detect specifically, though what your eardrum and inner ear detect are certainly the byproducts, the offshoots, of such concepts. So, there are then what we would call “SOUNDLETS”, which you may spell s-o-u-n-d-l-e-t, which can be explained as miniscule particles of sounds that contain the designs necessary to create dimensions, planes, realities and existences that can be founded upon nonphysical, nonlinear representations.”
For more info, see: [July 19, 2004]
[July 26, 2004]
[August 23, 2004]
[January 29, 2006]
3 Mark’s note: Kris is referring to a civilization that existed over FOUR HUNDRED MILLION years ago. Earth, Mars, Venus and Varuun were all inhabited planets that went to war. Weapons of “mantra destruction” were used and Varuun was destroyed. Mars and Venus were left uninhabitable. Varuun became what we know today as the asteroid belt, and one of Earth’s moons was also destroyed.
For more info, see: [March 21, 2005]
[April 18, 2005]
[March 24, 2005]
[April 21, 2003]
4 Paul’s note: Kris’ comment about learning to “absorb and properly situate your own tendencies toward aggression” reminded me that our species is at a relatively young stage of development, still quite adolescent in learning to work with what Seth called natural aggression in The Nature of Personal Reality (1974).
Aggression by itself is a necessary action for manifesting and sustaining life as we know it in purely physical terms. And yet, when our belief systems of aggression remain so tied to ethnocentric, tribalistic, and nationalistic values, we tend to focus on warfare as a solution to problems. Hopefully we learned in the 20th century that this simply will not work on a global scale with over six billion focuses.
5 Paul’s note: Kris has used this metaphor before, and it was originally given by Seth in Dreams, “Evolution,” and Value Fulfillment, Vol. 1 (1986). So as Kris continued to explore the origins of the universe and species that he started the previous Wednesday evening, February 8th, I was reminded of the grid metaphor. Here’s something from Seth:
“The world as you know it exists as it does because you are yourself a living portion of a vast ‘conscious grid’ of perception.
“Every cell, in those terms, is a sender and a receiver. All of the larger divisions of life – the mammals, fish, birds, and so forth – are an integral part of that living gridwork. The picture of the world is not only the result of those messages transmitted and received, however, but is also caused by the relationships between those messages. In your terms, then, all of life’s large classifications were present ‘at the beginning of the world.’ Otherwise there would have been vast holes in that grid of perception that makes possible the very sensations of physical life.
“In a manner of speaking, the physical universe is ‘transposed’ upon another reality that must be its source. The world was and is created in dimensions outside of time, and outside of space as you understand it (intently).
“Other realities quite as legitimate as your own, quite as vital, quite as ‘real,’ coexist with your own, and in the terms of your understanding, ‘in the same space’ – but of course in terms of your experience those spaces and realities would appear to be quite separate. No systems are closed, however, so that basically the living grid of perception that causes one world or reality is also ‘wired into’ all other such systems. There is a give-and-take between them.
“The grids of perception that compose your world give you the world picture as you experience it because your physical senses put you in a certain position within the entire grid. Animals, for example, while part of your experience, are also ‘tuned into’ that grid at another level. The large classifications of mammals, fish, birds, men, reptiles, plants, and so forth, are [each] an integral part of that larger perceptive pattern – and that pattern in those terms had to be complete even in the beginning of your time.” P. 248-249.
6 Paul’s note: Kris had first mentioned deepening Serge’s trance state the previous Wednesday when we first broached this topic of the origins of the universe and species. At that time he asked Joanne for a glass of Merlot, and slowly sipped it during the rest of the session.
What’s interesting here is Kris’ comment that it “took all weekend to condition [Serge's mind] to this state,” as though the exercising of the trance state allowed for deeper access to areas of what Carl Jung would have called the collective unconscious, or subconscious.
Since this was my first opportunity to directly observe Serge and Kris in and out of trance over a period of days, I learned a lot about the relationship between these two aspects that live in a single body. First, and foremost, I realized that Kris coaches Serge along as best he can to help him assimilate the material he delivers, and secondly, that it’s critical for the development of depth in the material for Serge to assimilate and interpret the material as best he can.
It’s not as if Serge is a blank slate and all the wisdom of the ages pours through him. This energy exchange is a collaborative effort, a synergy of psychological aspects. The Kris we know is what Seth called a bridge personality, neither fully Serge, nor fully Kris in his native state of attention, but a hybrid of the two. So Serge’s overall development is key to the phenomenon maturing and deepening as the years go by. And Kris is dependent on Serge’s linguistic skills, concept maps, schemas, and belief systems to deliver any material. It is a deeply cooperative venture of the highest kind.
Further, in my own research I now believe that channeling is its own developmental intelligence that unfolds in successive stages of development. So this deepening of the trance state is an important development at the tender age of fifty for Serge, because it allows Kris to access and translate more sophisticated idea complexes and idea threads, to use Kris’ terms. And these ideas are needed to build an accurate storyline with his creation mythos.
7 Paul’s note: this is a very condensed form of some of the conclusions I’ve reached in my research on this topic. It began with an abridged version and exegesis of the first five chapters of Seth’s Dreams, “Evolution,” and Value Fulfillment, Vol. 1 (2001).
Also, last year I spoke at The Conference on World Affairs at the University of Colorado in Boulder. The first panel was Creationism vs. Evolution. So that experience rekindled my interest in this area, and led me to revise my earlier essay, which is called Seth on “The Origins of the Universe and of the Species”: An Integral Conscious Creation Myth It explores many related ideas as they relate to Seth, Elias, Kris, and Ken Wilber’s versions of our origins in relation to evolutionary theory, Darwinism, and many other themes.
In a nutshell, the main conclusion is that there are three broad stages of evolution to date in purely Framework 1 terms that we can call physios, bios, and noos. Physios describes all physical matter which makes up the vast majority of the physical stuff in our universe. Bios (which includes physios) describes all self-replicating biological life forms, from cells to chimpanzees which make up a very small percentage of the stuff manifest in our universe. Noos (which includes physios and bios) describes the self-aware, sentient, focuses of essences that finally manifest within a larger ecosystem or biosphere, which make up an infinitesimally small amount of stuff manifest in our universe.
This summarizes the three main classes of evolutionary processes that have occurred in our universe to date. There are likely more to come down the road if we don’t destroy ourselves and our planet beforehand. Further, when we factor in the involutionary processes outlined by Seth, Elias, Kris, Aurobindo, Wilber, and others it becomes clear that all physios is impregnated with the pure potentiality for bios, noos, and whatever may come next to manifest in physical terms (I speculate, after Wilber, that psychos and theos are next).
Put another way, the very stardust (physios) that make up those lovely clouds that span light years recently photographed by the Hubble telescope hold the pure potential to form galaxies, solar systems, planets (physiospheres), that will then support ecosystems (biospheres), that will then will support focuses of essence (noospheres) by involutionary design. The involutionary CUs or consciousness units that make up all matter impregnate them with the infinite potential to create in this general way. So focuses of essence are inherent within stardust, it’s just that there are physical processes that must work out over very, very long stretches of space-time before that can happen. But they are implicit within the very quantum fields that make up all matter (physios).
This is the “order of play” I talk about in purely physical, Framework 1, five senses terms. And yet, as we see consistently from Seth, Elias, Kris, Wilber, and others, they attempt to explicate a multidimensional cosmology that includes what we can generally call involutionary processes that complement evolutionary processes. So physios, bios, and noos are descriptors only of physically manifest aspects within the larger multidimensional construct we call All-That-Is, Kosmos, Atman, Brahman, or God.
According to Kris, All-That-Is consists of four main processes or fields of consciousness that he terms Quadrants (these are different than Wilber’s quadrants that I use in my Integral Conscious Creation research). For the gory details, see Quadrants of Consciousness.
8 Mark’s note: Origin of term “monkeylution.” This appears to be the first time that this word was used. It was meant to be a comical reference to “Darwin’s Theory of Evolution” whereas mankind descended from apes and monkeys.
9 Paul’s note: Madame Blavatsky (1831-1891), the founder of Theosophy, was well known for her stance that humans didn’t evolve from the great apes.
10 Paul’s note: In hindsight, I don’t know where I found the energy and focus to engage these questions. But given the synergy of the workshop and the wonderful people we shared three days with, I got excited when Kris revisited this topic of the origins of the universe and species.
Though we didn’t touch on it in this session, the notions of Intelligent Design, Creationism, Evolutionism, and Scientism all play a part in the recent public dramas playing out in the courts, school boards, and churches in the United States where the debate has been dummied down into only Creationism (Church) vs. Evolution (State), as though they are the only two choices.
In my view, Creationism is premodern bag of superstitious nonsense, and Evolution is a modern materialist and scientismist bag of way incomplete theories. There is an emerging third choice, a postmodern version of this story that we are exploring in this and subsequent sessions.
11 Ellen’s note: I don’t think any of us caught Kris’s humorous reference to “tofurkey” at the time. Jo had gone to bed a few minutes earlier, due to exhaustion and the effects of a cold she’d been nursing all weekend, or she would probably have picked up on it right away. Kris was referring to a dish Jo had prepared back in November for a Dinner & A Dead Guy session: tofu molded and shaped into a turkey (more or less), which Jo referred to as “tofurkey.” At the time of that session, I had jokingly asked Jo if she had stuffed it.
12 Mark’s note: Netjer is ANOTHER voice that Kris has been voiced through Serge (Joseph). Kris helped facilitate and ‘bridge’ this ancient entity to enable the channel.
KRIS: Now we have suggested in the past that the true source of your being stands outside the flow of time and space, at least time and space as you know and understand it. There are other consciousnesses that actually come from even beyond those constraints and the Netjer is one of them. We have given them that name simply to facilitate our reference system. They are much older even though all things are timeless and eternal there are still some things in the universe that can not be defined as you understand as being defined and they travel. Clouds on your system of reality travel the atmosphere. They may see different landscapes from dry valley riverbeds to oceans to mountains, so on and so forth. There are consciousnesses that also travel they are also some that seed the universes. They themselves sprang from the creative desire of all that there is. They are ancient and the Netjer is one of those.
November 25, 2002
First Contact November 25, 2002
November 28, 2002 5PM
November 28, 2002 8:45 PM
13 Paul’s note: I-I-I describes the basic structural elements of our multidimensional identity within All-That-Is. Much like a musical scale is the basis for entire symphonies, I-I-I is the basis for individuality within All-That-Is. I-I-I describes the three main fields of consciousness outlined by Seth in The Early Sessions (1997-2002): primary pyramid gestalts (I), essence (I), and focus personalities (I). Each is holoncentric, to use Kris’ variation of the term “holon,” and thus perceives itSelf as the center of All-That-Is.
As long as we firmly keep in mind that “the map is not territory” it will always help to have an accurate map when exploring the infinite reaches of All-That-Is, particularly in the context of an emerging postmodern theory of involution/evolution in relation to the origins of our universe and species.


