Celebration of Self
November 27, 2005
Kris Chronicles
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Ellen Gilbert (Kwaa’Ji)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on November 27, 2005
Copyright 2005 Avion Rising, Inc.
Roll call: Toronto: Serge (Joseph), Mark (Philip), Myrna (Shara-Leene), John (Soharse), Jackie, Michelle
New Jersey: Daniel (Rahani), Natasha (Nuriel), Ella (Lazuli), and Inna (Mel-Nuur)
Castaic, California: Paul (Janaki), Jo (Rosalie), Jeanette (Esohna), Gordon
Oregon: Norm (Ambrose) and Reta (Leihuu)
Wilmington, Delaware: Ellen (Kwaa’Ji)
Bear, Delaware: Kaust (Mahajir)
Netherlands: Emmy (Atin Khum)
Seattle, Washington: Don (Ramuel)
California: Denise (Behaar)
Hawaii: Tom (Desiré)
Salt Lake City, Utah: Anya
Ithaca, New York: Jon (Reginald)
(Session begins at 7:45 PM)
KRIS: Now we are glad that you are all present and sharing of your lovely selves, even if you are breathing deeply into your telephone! (Giggles among the group). [There was a definite heavy breathing sound through most of Kris' first few minutes of monologue, but the culprit was never discovered.] We would therefore suggest that everyone apply the “mute” function. That will facilitate better transcribing. (The sounds of blips and bleeps are heard as people press their individual mute buttons).
MARK: That’s better.
KRIS: We thank you. Now you are approaching the time of the year, a time of holidays and celebrations, a time where thoughts are expected to turn towards a more altruistic perspective. A time where many religions speak of re-birth and birth of divine beings, and to that effect…. (Some sound interference is still heard)… we will request one more time: all telephones on mute functions!
This time of the year is actually a very ancient tradition that goes far beyond the Christian aspect with the founding of the Pauline Church. Many older religions and cults and organizations were indeed accustomed to celebrating a renewal of spirituality within their members and within the world. And indeed, when Christianity acquired this time of year to celebrate, the traditions have altered. Originally this time was utilized literally as a celebration of selfhood, of spiritual awakening, of enlightenment. Dogma got into the soup, so to speak, and changed the recipe, but before dogma and literal interpretations of myths were as cemented as they are now, it mattered little which group or religion the individual aligned with.
[MARK’S NOTES: The Pauline Church is based upon the teachings of St. Paul.]
What was important was the recognition there was a time set aside for renewing one’s relationship with the Divine. It was a time where myths were understood as coded language given free interpretation to allow the individual to experience his or her roots into a greater state of being. Many ancient traditions already had mythologies and symbols that were later acquired and sometimes even plagiarized by Christian groups, then cultivated into orthodoxy as you now have it handed down to you. But before such times there was a different understanding of the word, “Christ,” or “Christos.” And as it is properly understood in its ancient Vedic roots, that word is pronounced as “Krishna.” The roots of the word themselves define a higher state within the human being, a state the human being moves towards.
In very many ancient Gnostic groups spread far and wide in the ancient world, as far as ancient Britannia, all over the Mediterranean, and even in some Central American cultures over two thousand years back in time as you know it, there was a different understanding, especially of the word and the state of “Christ” as such. Christ was not an individual that came into the world to become a God, nor was it a God become man, to become worshipped as God, but instead, was a specific state of inner revelation and enlightenment, such that the human being becomes a Christ.
There is another word that you might also be familiar with that is very much an equivalent. That word is “Buddha.” The “Christ” word meant a state of enlightenment, that one becomes an enlightened one, a Christ; as one becomes a Buddha, an enlightened one. And in your present societies such traditions have, if not entirely been lost, have become indeed very much distorted.
The state of Christ-hood, or Buddha-hood, is also equivalent to the realizations of remembrance of Essence in its natural, unadulterated form. And definitely not a Hollywood version, but a state where the individual has access to that Christ-like, Buddha-like state, recognizing that his or her consciousness is not dependent upon form, but that instead, manifests and maintains form and that that imagery of their expression is not permanent, though it is nonetheless real.
These ancient practices have often been set aside, if not entirely lost to your histories, often considered little more than mythologies even though you yourselves can still recognize the kernels of truth that exist in these ancient myths, just as you may one day recognize that your being, your having your adventures in physical reality are the myths of your own selves, the stories that you express in physical reality. And we do wish it understood that when we use the word myth or mythology, we do not refer to the common interpretation of it being a fallacy, or falsehood, or a made up story, but instead, of a specific coded language that is meant to awaken within the listener the echoes of their own heroic dimension, their own enlightened state, their own Christ-hood or Buddha-hood.
And we mention this because the time is soon where you will celebrate in most of the western world, and western culture the advent in story form, the advent of a divinity. And if you take the time to look behind the apparent facts believed in so strongly and deeply by so many, you will see the myth, the story, the code. And instead of worshipping a deity made flesh, you may recognize the teaching that seeks to awaken you to your own remembrances of a spark of divinity, an Expression of Essence that has taken physical expression, that has taken on the imagery of physical life, physical reality, and plays out its drama, creating your reality each and every day, each and every moment.
Now we have no intention of invalidating the worship and the customs of entire nations, but we DO intend to mention that these stories are representative of GREATER events: the event of your manifestation into physical expression and THAT is also worthy of honoring, is also worthy of celebration. And indeed your life and its expression in the physical context can be viewed as a great celebration of your abilities to manifest, to create, to enjoy, and every moment can indeed have a special place of honor. Every relationship that you have — every friendship, family tie, partnerships — these are all opportunities to celebrate Expression of Essence made manifest.
And if you remember that your specific life is the unfolding of the mythology of your being, and if this leads you to recognize that fact, then indeed you have made strides in understanding who and what you are outside of the physical body that is your vehicle of expression. Now far be it from our humble selves to mention that there are plenty of opportunities to honor yourselves and to celebrate self. And we believe that if you give even a small amount of attention to this subject matter, then you will easily discover that you can enhance your everyday activities simply by recognizing that fact that the celebration of your own self — meaning the entire reality that you create — is a sacred gesture.
And when you gift yourselves with that simple understanding, you can have a far different outlook on your lives, especially when you become aware that your concentrations lead you to believe the myth that you are powerless, ineffective victims, for that too is a myth, a mythology that you create.
You have then, choices, ALWAYS, as to what and where your attention can be and we believe — though we could be in error! — but we believe that it is to your advantage to honor the celebrations of yourselves, and focus upon those mythologies than to dishonor your own selves and play the part of the victim — though you are entirely free to do so at will — but you can experiment with the two states and see which state brings about the greatest joy for you. Now what is the time?
MARK: 8:10
KRIS: Indeed then, we will suggest a small break, where you can all un-mute! And when we return, we would like to continue on that subject.
(Break begins at 8:10 PM.)
EMMY: I really like his use of the words mythology and myth in this session. I think it’s the first time I heard the correct expression of that word, even while I never heard someone explaining it somehow.
PAUL: It’s very similar to Seth’s definition in Dreams, Evolution, and Value Fulfillment and The Unknown Reality. They come at it in the same way, that it portrays a deeper resonance that is intended to resonate a remembrance of Essence. That’s the authentic power of myth, not that it’s a falsehood.
[Ella, attempts to make a comment, but due to the type of phone her group is using, with headphones and handsets, the sound quality is very crackly. After this is pointed out, they decide to switch to speakerphone which is somewhat of an improvement. Ella then repeats her comments.]
ELLA: I wanted to say that, all four of us, coming from the country where religion was prohibited, we did not celebrate any religious holidays and as we grew up, we were taught to reject them, make fun of them, and the way Kris has explained, he put the perspective on the Self, and so I can pretty much use the holiday on any given date to celebrate myself, my selfhood, and that feels good.
[We all agreed that Ella's comments were much more understandable through the speakerphone. The heavy breathing sound was commented upon, that it was a continual annoyance through most of Kris' delivery, and it was decided that Mark, as the organizer, should use the presentation mode to mute all participants' phones during Kris' delivery.]
MARK: Just for everybody’s sake, when I do that, you will all be able to hear us [in Toronto], but everybody else will be automatically muted, until I toggle that off.
(Kris returns at 8:19 PM)
KRIS: Throughout the annals of time and history, even before what you understand history to be, there have been many cultures and civilizations on your planet. Many have come, many have gone, many will come, and many more will go, as yours will one day be a memory for your far descendants. And your own culture will also be viewed from the standpoint of mythologies. Your sciences, your medicines, your lives, your laws, your religions, your deities will also one day be considered mythology.
And there will always be mythologies, myths about reality and reality creation and how the core values and the satellite values of any given civilization and its people is expressed into the realm of physical reality, as your ancestors have done for countless ages. And these stories, these myths are handed down — they are changed, they evolve, they transform — and they are meant to convey information in the form of stories, stories that teach deeper issues pertaining to how Self is celebrated and celebrates its loveliness.
And each day that you wake up, you awaken to a new myth about your own self, your expression and its lovely manifestation throughout the oceans of time and space. Look at your individual world, your personal reality, and see how far and wide that myth, that divine story, extends. It even seems to occupy space and real estate. There are countries, continents, planets, solar systems and galaxies involved in YOUR own personal reality.
Though each of you generally focuses upon the closer to home issues, you still co-create them, the rest of the physical manifestations with all of its pretty celestial bodies, the oceans, the continents, the planet, the moon or even the moons. Most of which you are not necessarily aware of, or conscious of, even though peripherally they still exist for you. And such magnificent creations do not go unnoticed. There are many other beings examining those myths that you create, and you create the myths that includes a planet, a moon, a solar system and beyond. And these are viewed by other beings with utmost interest, because not all beings create realities in the same way that you do.
There are beings that do not include planets, solar systems, etc. in their personal reality creation, therefore your myths are certainly of great interest. And they are studied, your myths, in other worlds, exactly as you study the myths of your ancestors, or of other cultures, but on a much wider scale. And you have an opportunity then, to recognize that your creations can be viewed quite differently than in the manner you view yours, even by yourselves. How many of you open your eyes in the morning and groan at the prospect of facing another day?
In many respects, other beings find this a novelty idea, that beings can create their own days, their own props, and begrudge that very power, and then pretend to be victimized by their own creations. It could be said that your myths are often the talk of the town elsewhere! (Group chuckles) All this to say that indeed many of you have forgotten the great celebration of being, celebrating yourselves, even in small ways acknowledging, addressing, and accepting the fact that whether your day is pretty or shitty, you have taken the time and the effort to create it as a symbol for yourself.
What kind of celebration are you offering to yourselves? Ponder upon that mystery and try to imagine how others — other beings — examine, discuss, and explore your myths — the myths of your lives, the myths of your reality — and how would you make it more interesting for yourselves? Therefore we suggest a very small break. We will return and answer questions, but on that topic.
(Break begins at 8:31. Mark returns to the conversation mode, un-muting everyone)
MARK: We’re back, kids.
JOHN: Some fun ideas there, eh?
ELLEN: Pretty or shitty!
ELLA: What does he mean by other beings? Beings from another dimension?
PAUL: That’s a good question.
DENISE: Yeah, and how do they access our myths?
ELLA: Usually when Elias speaks of “beings” he is referring to other aspects of your own Essence. Who is [Kris] talking about, “beings”? Are they from a different dimension, examining what we are doing here?
NATASHA: I think it might be other clusters.
ELLA: Clusters, okay. I would like to get him to clarify.
MARK: You also have to realize that we, as Essence, not only create this physical reality as we know it, we also create other realities that are very, very different.
ELLA: But when he says “other beings” he doesn’t say another expression of your Essence. That throws me off.
MARK: Well, we’ll get him to clarify that.
ELLA: Okay, I would appreciate that. He always throws something in to wake you up, that’s for sure.
MARK: I was sort of wondering about that, [I was] picturing HIM, how he views us, as well as the Netjers, how they view us, that sort of thing… [Different Clans and different Quadrants.]
ELLEN: And Eeja.
MARK: So again, we’ll get him to clarify that.
ANYA: There was a transcript in which he was talking about nothing is ever wasted? And he said that all of our mistakes are basically contributed to — I’m using my words here — like a kind of bank of knowledge. Those are my words, it’s not what he said. I’m translating what I remember — and then he said, you don’t know, even a little mistake can be used by others to, you know, get inspired or just be affected by that. So I think it’s kind of related to what he was saying.
[MARK’S NOTES: I understood this ‘Bank of Knowledge’ to be the Akashic records that Kris, Seth, Jane and others have spoken about.]
EMMY: Yeah, it also reminds me of when you are dreaming, you sometimes — at least I sometimes — view whole different life stories, different situations, and learn from their adventures, so to say, and maybe this works in a similar way.
(Kris returns at 8:35 PM)
KRIS: Now it is question time! Fun time! And who will take the first position?
ELLEN: How ’bout it, Ella?
ELLA: All right, I’ll do my best. Hello Kris, this is Ella in New Jersey, Essence name is Lazuli and I would like to clarify the concept of the other beings in your prior monologue. Did you mean that these are beings from another dimension, other expressions of our Essences in another dimension, or who are these other beings in our myths?
KRIS: We would have to say all of the above and more.
ELLA: Okay, thank you. Could you expand on it more?
KRIS: Even though any one of you may think you know your Essence, we highly recommend to never be so complacent, because you are always full of surprises. Essence is not a finished product, as we have expressed before, but is always in a state of blossoming. Always in a state of discovering itself, so you can never be one hundred percent certain as to the extent of your own Source. You may view it from your human perspective, but there is far more at play.
Even when you think you know all there is to know about who you are, Essence itself is not particularly one thing, but it may comprise MANY things, always more than the sum of all of its parts, a gestalt. You may indeed have aspects of your Essence that may be quite alien to you, and perhaps some aspects so foreign that they cannot be transcribed or translated in any terms that you may understand from the linear conscious perspective. Always be ready for surprises. Does that answer your question?
ELLA: That answers it very well. Surprises are always welcome.
KRIS: Indeed! Other questions?
KAUST: This is Kaust from Delaware. I have one question.
KRIS: Only one?!
KAUST: Can you hear me?
KRIS: Indeed, we hear you well. You only have one question?
KAUST: (Laughing) Well, let’s start with one! What is there about experimenting with — using a victim of oneself on one hand, and on the other hand, celebrating oneself and — you said that one can feel either way. You said that one should experiment with the ideas, so the question is the idea of – um, feeling a victim and celebrating oneself also relates to the idea of trusting oneself because one cannot — how does one celebrate oneself when one does not trust oneself fully, and how does one develop self-trust? Do you have any suggestions about that?
KRIS: Indeed. It is said that the best way to learn to do something is to teach it. Our humble answer to that question, and to any related question, in any shape or form, is to just DO IT.
KAUST: (Chuckling) Okay! (Laughter among group) So one should just take a leap of faith and do whatever needs to be done and — that’s all there is to it, isn’t it?
MARK: This is Mark, I think if you start celebrating — actually taking the action and start celebrating yourself — then the trust will soon follow.
KRIS: And we second that comment. You believe that you must go to school for twenty years in order to know how to speak and think, and by the time your end days near, you may think and speak; but the rest of your lives will not have been in celebration of your speech, your words, and your thoughts. Do you understand?
KAUST: Yes.
KRIS: The best way then, is to jump into life and begin celebrating its small moments, so that you can familiarize yourself with the process and up to and until you are able to celebrate bigger moments. Up to and until you are able to celebrate the WHOLE of your life.
KAUST: So celebrating bigger moments. That sounds fun. (Laughs) But yes, I can understand the idea.
MARK: If I can take a quote from last week’s session, the best gift you have given yourself is your own individuality. Start by celebrating that.
KAUST: Yeah, sounds good.
KRIS: Every one of you listening has never had to take a course in thinking nor in breathing, or any other functions essential to life. You came about these quite naturally. You knew how to think before anyone taught you what to think. Utilize a similar principle and you will see that celebrating yourselves is actually quite simple, and it does not have to be a big Times Square production, nor a big party, but the simple acknowledgement that you are a sacred being and your actions — your words, your thoughts, your deeds — are geared towards celebrating that life that is YOURS, whether it is in smiling, or smiling back at someone, thanking someone, acknowledging their presence, their loveliness, or acknowledging your own presence and loveliness.
It is SO much easier to come down on those who discount themselves or others, but how often has that same individual SO casually discounted their own selves, mistrusted themselves. So begin that small celebration by acknowledging, addressing and accepting yourselves. Does that answer your question?
KAUST: Yes, thank you.
KRIS: You are most welcome.
MARK: Who had the question about the Akashic records and our mistakes? (Silent pause) Hello?
JO: In Castaic? We didn’t have a question in Castaic about that.
MARK: Wasn’t somebody talking about it at break? That our mistakes go into a record file for accessing?
(Confused silence)
ELLEN: (Chuckling — I didn’t remember hearing that question) What Universe did that come from?
(Group laughter)
PAUL: Yeah, it wasn’t ours!
ANYA: This is Anya in Salt Lake. I was actually asking about our mistakes — I was reading in a transcript and that was my understanding that even our mistakes are never wasted, so they might inspire and affect other individuals in a way we might not even be able to perceive. So if Kris can hear that, I’d like some comments on that.
RETA: Okay, this is Reta in Oregon. The Akashic records are really quite developed in the Seth material as the “Library of Forever” and that you can — well, Jane was able to go in there and write for her books from the records there. Everything is supposedly stored there, everything that was ever thought, done or dreamed. That’s my understanding. And those same records are mentioned again in the Bible, and they’re mentioned again in the Book of Mormons.
PAUL: This is Paul in Castaic. Seth never mentioned the Akashic records in any great detail and the library that I think you are referring to is what Jane Roberts connected to in an altered state. She called it her “Psychic Library,” but just to clarify — sort of the Cayce-esque version of Akashic records is NOT something from the Seth material. I just want to clarify that.
ELLEN: Yeah, it was more Edgar Cayce.
RETA: Oh, okay.
DENISE: I have a question for Kris — it’s Denise in California — I’m just wondering about these other beings and how they access our myths. Is it through Akashic records, is it through some other means? And also, our myths about the Greeks and Romans — our mythology — how did we access those and what sort of distortion might have been involved when we access other beings’ myths and they access ours?
KRIS: Now, there will always be slight distortions when there is interpretation, as you have just seen concerning the so-called Akashic records in Rubert’s and Seth’s materials. It is important to keep in mind that as soon as somebody else’s reality is viewed through your eyes, you must give it an interpretation according to your specific position within your belief systems. It cannot be avoided. There is no specific pure truth excepting the truth of being. Outside of that sphere, you have countless interpretations, and it does not invalidate that facet of truth, but gives it a different perspective, a different slant. But it must be acknowledged that all of your observations are just that. They are not truths, but observations.
When other beings access your own mythologies they may do so through the auspices of your own dream states. They may do so through the auspices of their version of history. They may do so through the sharing of energies that exist outside the realm of the conscious mind. You yourselves, as subjective beings, are always actively pursuing interpretations and observations and you easily come across other individuals and share of this information. You, none of you, are a closed system. It only appears that way because of the phenomenon of your own physical imagery.
It seems to you that there is a separation between yourself and your environment, yourself and others; however you do not realize that there is a constant sharing of information at all levels. Even as physical beings you communicate mostly non-verbally, and not only through body language, but through psychological atmospheres. You call it telepathy. There is a constant exchange. Just as easily as your own being observes the mythologies of others, you decide what you may keep or not. Does that help?
DENISE: It does, and I had a follow-up question. What about mythologies, are they completely not manifest in the physical, or could they be partially mythology and partially physical fact? I’m thinking of like King Arthur, or something like that, that might be part myth and there might be an actual person who physically existed as we know of Arthur. Is that a possibility that it could be part myth and part physical?
KRIS: Indeed, and far more than you may surmise. Take all of the great civilizations of your past, the Egyptians, the Greeks, the Romans, the Babylonians, the Sumerians, countless others. These have appeared to YOUR interpretation as actual, physical constructs, civilizations, cultures, even geographically verifiable, paleontologically verifiable, or at least their remnants. That is how you interpret that greater mythology, the greater portion of which does not manifest physically. It contains the intent, the ideals, the drives, the energies, the lives of other beings, some of which are other aspects of your own Essence.
And they come together in Frameworks two, three and four in other areas of Quadrant one, Quadrant two, and they have their celebrations. You interpret those celebrations in the context of your historical venues, and you see them therefore as the remnants of past great cultures. So what appear in your physical reality are interpretations. This should lead you to also ponder about YOUR civilization. It appears that your physical civilization is great indeed, perhaps even the greatest that your history has seen so far.
Your technological and scientific and medical advances seem to surpass all others and yet, all of these items will one day be interpreted through the realities of other beings as the remnants of a once great culture. And they too will understand that their interpretation of your remnants is the best that they can do, whilst the greatest aspect of your civilization was not made manifest, but it exists as the intent and the drives and the collective and personal beliefs of ALL of the individuals participating in the creation of this civilization. But its greater portions will never be made physical to the eyes of others.
MYRNA: Because?
KRIS: Because the true parts of your civilization do not appear in the physical. They are the drives, the intent, the emotions, the psychologies of all the beings involved.
MYRNA: So they will see and experience through –
KRIS: THEIR interpretations.
MYRNA: Right.
KRIS: As you see YOUR interpretations of other cultures long gone, in your terms.
JO: This is Jo. I would just like to follow up on Anya’s question. I thought it was a really great question about mistakes and whether or not there is value to them, not only to us but to others. I think it’s really part of the “trusting self” theme and I wondered if you could comment on that.
KRIS: Indeed, and most of you may already have noticed that what you thought was a mistake, in retrospect may indeed have been a correction on the path, a means for you to alert yourself to a rectification, letting go of situations that may indeed be no longer beneficial to you and advising you of other situations that are more beneficial to your choices.
So you may bemoan the small mistakes that you may have made here and there, but we advise not to dwell upon those situations in that mind frame, but that instead you see that event or situation from another perspective, a perspective that shows that apparent mistakes may indeed be great treasures on their own. Does that make sense to you?
JO: Yes, that’s helpful and I think that Anya’s question — and you can correct me, Anya — had to do with, in Essence, other people learning from our mistakes also.
KRIS: Indeed. You are ALL connected through the network of Essence. Your other expressions may also glean much information from your actions, your events, your dreams and feeling-tones, just as you also learn from the apparent mistakes and situations of other focuses, even if you are not conscious of that fact. Does that help?
JO: Yes. Thank you very much.
KRIS: What is the time?
MARK: 9:02
KRIS: Then, we suggest one more question, or two.
DON: Kris, this is Don in Seattle. You said or suggested when someone asks how we can learn to better celebrate ourselves, you said something like, “just do it.” If we find that, as we practice celebrating ourselves, that we are sabotaging ourselves actively, would your advice for that be, just “don’t do it”? (Laughter) Or do you have something more to say on that? Also, I’m wondering how you would, if you have any comments on the differences — or maybe they’re the same thing — between being a victim and sabotaging oneself.
KRIS: We would lean towards saying that there are few differences indeed, when one sabotages their own best intentions, or becomes the active victim in their reality. As to celebrating yourself, what kind of party would you throw in honor of your being?
DON: I don’t know.
PAUL: Dinner and a Dead Guy!
JO: A drunken orgy!
(Group laughter)
MARK: I’ll go with that! (Laughter)
JOHN: There would have to be dancing girls.
DON: Like anything would be a party in celebration, if my state of mind were one to celebrate.
MARK: I would have to say anything that brings you joy.
KRIS: One nice place to start, since you — most of you — like to have a place to start things, is upon awakening when you first open your eyes in the morning, you have a choice at that moment. You can decide in the blink of an eye that you will have a day filled with exuberance for being who you are, or you will fight with everyone you meet today and make them as miserable as you feel. YOU decide which party you will have. Does that make sense?
DON: Yes.
JO: Yes, I was only joking about the drunken orgy.
(Group laughter)
ELLEN: No you weren’t, Jo!
NORM: I have a little saying: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder each morning at sun-up.
ELLEN: Is that Norm?
NORM: That’s Norm.
ELLEN: Very good, Norm!
NORM: All right. I see beauty every morning.
KRIS: We have a sweet challenge for each of you: begin immediately — tomorrow morning upon awakening — and make that conscious decision that the events of your day will be in celebration of the EXUBERANCE that is within you, of the great energy that you are, that the light of knowledge, the brightness, the Buddha-ness, will shine forth everywhere you go, flooding the world, or your world, with acknowledgement of your lovely selves.
And if the first day manifests moments that reflect that state of mind, then make a conscious attempt on the second day to increase those moments and so on for the third day until there is not a moment left in the day that does not reflect the great exuberance of your inner being. That is our lovely challenge to each of you. Now what is the time?
MARK: 9:09.
KRIS: Indeed then, may each of you revel in your exuberance, in your enlightenment, in your joy. And may your dreams also reflect those moments.
ALL: Thank you, Kris.
Session ends at 9:10 PM
RETA: This is Reta in Oregon. I’m surprised in my lifetime how many people I bet, just spend their day finding fault and grumbling about everything, and it’s so much better if you can bring them up and joke with them, even tease them to get out of that mood. But some people think life is…..shit… (Group chuckling) and do NOT intend to enjoy it because they feel guilty if they’re having a good time. Norm’s mother had a very difficult time appreciating. She felt that if she was having a good time, she was probably in sin. And that’s tough.
NORM: That’s why I’ve won over that.
MARK: I think the best thing we can do in those circumstances is lead by example.
EMMY: This is Emmy from the Netherlands. I also think a lot of people, when they wake up, or they have a bad moment in the day, do not believe in change, that we are ever-changing in each moment, and that your mood can change also in each moment, and they forget to pay attention to when they actually have a chance to change their mood. A lot of people will say, “Well, I’m having a shitty day,” even though the day’s not over yet.
MARK: That’s a very good example, Emmy, because people don’t realize that no matter where they are in their life, the situation is temporary and they can change it.
EMMY: Yes, indeed!
KAUST: Yeah and that also applies to good situations and when you are actually feeling good, and you realize that that is also temporary. (Laughing) That’s so weird!
DENISE: I think a lot of people are not even aware of how negative they are. I think it’s a habit by now that you can be negative and not even realize that you’re thinking negative thoughts and being critical of yourself. I think one good thing is to write down just three things a day on a piece of paper — positive things — things you like about yourself, or things that are positive in the world. And if you do that — three things a day — at the end of a month, you’ll have NINETY things that are positive and then you can look at them all at one time and realize that there are more positive things that you are aware of that you kind of don’t focus on because you are kind of focused on the negative a lot.
JO: This is Jo. I’d like to invite everyone to New World View and try out the self-appreciation thread. I know a lot of us have been on it, if you haven’t, it’s a wonderful thread and I think we’ve gotten a lot of value out of it.
ELLEN: Good one, Jo.
ANYA: So, how is self-appreciation different from celebrating yourself, or is there a difference?
PAUL: No. I think it’s the same.
EMMY: This is Emmy again. I have this visual image: Kris was talking about distortion and I immediately thought about when a writer has finished his book and it goes out to a lot of people and when you are reading that book, when you are inside your house, you see a totally different image when you are reading the words of the story. Everybody sees their own images, even though the message of the story will reach the people in their own way in their own interpretation.
MARK: Very true.
ELLA: I have a question regarding our hour with Kris. This is Ella, can you hear me? (Some concerns are voiced back and forth on the clarity of Ella’s words. She continues in a slower, more succinct tone:) The impression that I have is — it’s our very first evening with Kris this way, in a group, and from reading transcripts and (inaudible, and some interference from other voices intruding) — I’m sorry? What are you saying?
MARK: Nothing, keep going.
ELLA: I’ve always had the impression that it’s very bubbly and very animated, and this one was a little bit on the quiet side. Is that just my impression, or did I misinterpret as to how they usually occur?
PAUL: It WAS a bit on the quiet side, aside from some raucous laughter and the back and forth, but it takes time, this is a new group. There’s a lot of new people together tonight, so there’s a lot of feeling out of energy, is what I sense.
ELLA: Okay, that’s cool. I mean, I’m not in it for fun, but fun is not excluded — (some general teasing and banter among the Russians, not clear enough to transcribe, but the general tone is humorous)
ANYA: Yeah, that’s why I was trying to suggest somewhere in there that maybe we could have a dream celebration and party tonight so that (inaudible) in the morning.
ELLA: Monday morning is very interesting for celebrating! To me the word “celebrating” implies being happy, merry, but actually one could celebrate oneself being mellow, also, as long as you acknowledge that’s who you are, how you feel, that’s your unique expression. (Background giggling) We’re definitely feeling each other out…. (Inaudible) Nobody has anything to say?
PAUL: It’s a little hard to hear you, Ella, too, so we’re kind of getting some of what you say. It’s not real clear.
ELLEN: Yeah, it’s not real good.
SERGE: You sound a little bit choppy.
(Ella puts her phone back on speakerphone, which is some improvement, but several people report that her words are still choppy, uneven and a bit static-y)
ELLA: Well, I guess that’s what I’m creating today! (Laughter)
EMMY: Well, at this moment of course. It can change!
ELLA: Yeah, [as long as] somebody points it out, we can change it….so now you should all hear me perfect!
MARK: (Seeing Kris come back) Oh! Hang on a second!
(Kris returns at 9:19 PM)
KRIS: Now you should all keep in mind that this particular evening, as in many others, has a significance. It also is a representation, or interpretation, of some of your mythologies about Self. Now there are many people from all over the continent and elsewhere, and each of you represents an aspect of Essence to each other. And in some small way, you are already celebrating yourselves now through the auspices of this teleconferencing mode.
Whether you realize it or not, this exists in the dream state, even though you may be fully convinced that you are awake, aware, and conscious. And this exchange occurs in much more than the physical level. You have already received much information in the subjective levels. Your connection through this teleconference is one of the means through which you avail yourself of this information. Even the words that we choose and the voice that we use is an interpretation, as far as you are concerned, to give yourselves the opportunity to communicate with your own inner selves.
All of the voices that you hear on this line, you may indeed associate with one individual or another, but that is only for the sake of conveniences, for at some other layer, this conversation also exists in the dream state, but it is far more expanded and includes direct cognitive visuals. and some of you have glimpsed some of those visuals through your impressions. So be aware that, when you sleep tonight, when you awaken tomorrow, you will already have the ability to choose what kind of celebration and what kind of day you set out before you.
So we invite each and everyone of you then to recognize that deep, and even deeper, tone within your being that speaks of celebration and recognition of self; even if you are mellow, even if you jumped up on the roof tops. Either way, make your life a celebration, an awakening, a revelation. And with that we return you to your lovely selves, wherever and whatever those lovely selves are.
MARK: 9:24
(Session ends at 9:24 PM.)
PAUL: You know, I just wanted to second what Kris said there in his pop-in that — and to Ella, what you were questioning about, just the level of energy and exchange tonight — that, you know, there’s always this subjective exchange — and you guys, most of you know this in your interactions with Kris or Elias or other sources — there’s always a subjective layer of exchange, and in the dream state.
Emmy — if you read any of her dreams that she’s posted in Ellen’s Inner Visions Journal, she’s talking about connecting with these sessions and whatnot — so there’s just a lot of evidence of different layers of how this event unfolds multi-dimensionally. This exchange, this technology exchange, really just being the tip of an iceberg, and I really sense that in Kris’ answer… and I really feel that more and more. I just feel that with everybody here, too, I just wanted to say that.
EMMY: It’s something I notice very much lately, that this whole session is ever-continuing, in a way. It never ends and it never begins in a sense. It’s ever expanding, so it seems.
PAUL: Yeah, we just happen to intersect in space and time every couple of weeks here on the phone. You know, we’ve been doing this for eons, and I mean that in a positive way.
Ella, whose connection is still somewhat choppy, offers that she and her friends enjoyed the interaction with the other people in this session, and how different it is from the private sessions she and her group have experienced so far.
PAUL: Yeah, that’s a very important part of this whole Dinner & A Dead Guy concept, you know, it’s a virtual community; during the rest of the time, New World View and other email lists out there — Sethnet, the Elias lists, and so on, the different websites where the transcripts are — and it’s fun to come together too, and exchange and get to know each other. So it’s wonderful to have our Russian friends join us tonight…. and look forward to your coming back.
ELLA: I’m planning to. I can only speak for myself, but your names are all familiar to me, I’ve never had a chance to speak to you, and I find it a very rewarding opportunity, I’m not sure if I will remember you if I see you in the dream state, but you are welcome to come into my dreams!
(Group laughter)
PAUL: Well, that’s an important thing to give permission I think!
ELLA: Just don’t send me nightmares, that’s all I’m asking for!
(Group laughter)
PAUL: (Laughing) Well, that will be your choice! You know, Seth always said to be on the lookout for “strangers” quote unquote, in your dreams, and that’s something I’ve been aware of for twenty-some years now, and the older I get, the better I get at dream recall and dream practice, there’s more strangers than familiars in my dream states, so I assume some of them are you!
Ella relates a recent dream in which she found herself rescuing and aiding a group of homeless youngsters, the gist of it being her feeling of being part of a community and of being of service, which made her feel useful and a part of something greater than herself, which she feels ties in with her general feelings of communal oneness in tonight’s session.
ELLA: Kris always talks about accessing your heroic dimension, and drawing your power from it, and using it in your everyday life, and I was wondering if any of you actually exercise that. If any of you have had experiences that you could say that “Yes, I did that, I felt that.”
EMMY: Could you repeat that question?
MYRNA: Well, perhaps I can repeat the question by first saying it and then answering it. This is Myrna in Toronto. What I hear, Ella, is: have any of us had any experience with accessing the Heroic Dimension?
ELLA: Yes.
MYRNA: Yes, and my answer is, yes I have. I had the good fortune to sit in on the “Heal the Broken Heart,” which is a workshop that Kris ran here in Toronto, and with one of the meditations — I think they have it on a CD, actually — Kris took us out into the Heroic Dimension, and — not even from a head place were we able to understand and access this — and asked us to, in that place, to access a Sister.
We were talking about the Nine Sisters at the time. And something came to me, an image came to me that it was very precious, and in fact, I call on her and I see her at times when I want to go out into the Heroic Dimension because I get way beyond Myrna, and I get way beyond any situation in my life and I go there with her to get a perspective that helps me see much broader than I can from where I am right now.
ELLA: Yes. I see.
MYRNA: That for me was probably one of the most profound opportunities that I have found, and I continue to use it to this day.
Ella responds, but much of it is inaudible. She shares her own experience with accessing the Heroic Dimension, in which she has encountered a man with a sword when she enters a particular mode of consciousness. At the point in which she encounters the man, she feels very powerful, and has sensed that she has an association with or a focus with, Richard the Lionheart.
ELLA: I was just wondering if that was my way of accessing the Heroic Dimension. I guess I could say yes, but I’m not sure.
MYRNA: What I resonate with is your word “powerful” and that synergy. And for me, when I’m in that place, yes — I can say that’s where I am at the time, also.
Mark has to cut in because the conference call is timing out, he wishes everyone a good evening, and everyone calls out their farewells.
Sally from U.S.A.
November 26, 2005
Kris Chronicles
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Sally
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on November 26, 2005
KRIS: Now we trust that you are comfortable.
SALLY: I’m, sorry (I thought Kris said UN-comfortable).
KRIS: We trust that you are comfortable.
SALLY: Yes, I am.
KRIS: And we thank you for your consideration.
SALLY: Thank you for coming through today.
KRIS: Now we believe that you have many inquiries.
SALLY: Yes, I do.
KRIS: And before we proceed to investigating your questions: we wish to share with you that there are times when it seems as if life’s choices and opportunities appear as overwhelming when there are struggles and outright conflicts with ones own interests, and it seems often that such situations appear as irreconcilable. But oftentimes, those are the opportunities that are created by the individual, by yourself, to challenge that of your abilities to navigate your own ship sometimes through some of life’s storms and it is always important to remember regardless of the appearance of the storms, the storm can never overtake the ship or its captain, the storms are created by the captain often as a means to explore ones ability for inner strength and resolve as well as exploring ones ability for integrity and to actually test out the challenge of new ideas, new potentials and if one does not navigate right into the storm then there are certainly regrets to be had do you understand? For the ship is made to ride the storms and its waves.
SALLY: Yes.
KRIS: This is allegorical but we believe that you understand that kind of language.
SALLY: Yes.
KRIS: Therefore please feel free to begin exploring your issues.
SALLY: Okay, um, let’s see, the first one: what is my Essence name?
KRIS: (long pause) An approximation of that energy would be [let’s say Martin – I’m not embarrassed about my Essence name or anything, it’s just that I have shared it with people, and at the moment, I, my husband and family feel weird about me posting this on-line, so I’m going to make up names as we go along, but this session has been very helpful to me, and if reading my issues can help someone with theirs, then it’s worth it to share.]
SALLY: How do you spell that?
KRIS: We would spell it as M_A_R_T_I_N. Martin
SALLY: And if you’re able to um, tell me what my six pack is?
KRIS: Indeed, it is always a lovely pleasure to assist an individual to discover more of their own potential through the design of Essence affiliations one way or another. (Long pause) We are also trust that you have an understanding that Essence itself is not specifically an finished product like A Ford or GM automobile off the assembly line.
SALLY: Yes (Laughing).
KRIS: There is so much more involved some of which often does not necessarily apply to the physics of the one physical dimension or reality YOU find yourself in.
SALLY: Yes.
KRIS: Now, the attributes of Martin are somewhat different .The 1st two belongings or roots for Martin: One is, if you wish… primary belonging is Ilda, Secondary is Sumari. Tertiary belonging is not necessarily in what we have identified as THIS cluster of reality, but in another. Even though there are equivalents in some other clusters of consciousness, there are also significant differences that you do not have an equivalent. We will get to that in a moment.
SALLY: uh-huh, okay.
KRIS: Aligning with specifically designed by the focus personality FOR the focus personality. Primary: Gramada, Secondary: Sumafi, Tertiary: Tumold. When you explore these families of consciousness descriptions, you may find some things resonate very deeply with some threads or characteristics in your own personality design, in others it may seem somewhat more subtle but nonetheless carry a deep root. Do you follow?
SALLY: Yes.
KRIS: To return for a moment to the tertiary belonging or root that we have described as not specifically allied with this cluster of consciousness that we call the Taaj. You have, or as Essence you have some roots with other Essence bodies that are somewhat different from the majority of individuals. This does not necessarily mean that you are cosmically different or superior, that you have simply a belonging to that taps into reality makeup that is different. Do you follow so far?
SALLY: I think so.
KRIS: Imagine if you will for a moment that you find that there are distant relatives you did not know about. But upon discovering them you realize they are in a foreign country and that it may even be difficult to communicate with them simply because of natural and cultural differences. In a similar manner this tertiary belonging to taps into or ties in with a distant cluster of consciousness somewhat difficult to describe and it may even allow for some of your perceptions about your connectivity to physical reality as sometimes something you question.
SALLY: Yes.
KRIS: Does that make any sense to you?
SALLY: Yes.
KRIS: As if there is a part of you every once in a while looks about its environment and finds that it is indeed a strange place to be in. And those moments they come and go as quickly. Does that make any sense to you?
SALLY: Yes it does.
KRIS: Consider them to be echoes from far off belonging to. Please feel free to continue.
SALLY: Yes, um, I was wondering if I could ask about people who have passed on?
KRIS: To a certain degree. Please do.
SALLY: I was wondering about my father?
KRIS: Name?
SALLY: His name, um, people called him (Let’s use “Papa”)
KRIS: Repeat?
SALLY: Papa.
KRIS: How do you spell?
SALLY: P_A_P_A.
KRIS: Any specific questions?
SALLY: If he is in contact with the family?
KRIS: When did this individual pass away?
SALLY: Um, let’s see, it’s been maybe three years ago in May. He was also known as (let’s use “Dad”).
KRIS: We have an individual that describes himself as rather tall. Was your father tall?
SALLY: (Laughing) No.
KRIS: But says he’s related to your father.
SALLY: Then maybe he’s my grandfather (let’s use GrandPapa).
KRIS: Repeat name?
SALLY: GrandPapa.
KRIS: Did you know this individual personally?
SALLY: No, he died when I was I think 2 years old.
KRIS: May we ask that we return to these specific set of questions later.
SALLY: Oh, no problem.
KRIS: The reason being that this tall individual seems to know you and others but at this point, there is confusion. So we will return in a short while to those questions, please proceed.
SALLY: Is it possible to find out if I have reincarnational ties with any of my current family?
KRIS: What is your country of origin?
SALLY: (Any third world country will do).
KRIS: Do you recall as a young girl, young child. Perhaps somewhere between the ages of 6 and 10 approximately of telling anyone that you had unusual dreams, that your dreams had people and a family. Especially people you said you knew in another place. Does that make any sense to you at all?
SALLY: Um, it’s possible. I know that I would talk about my dreams, but I can’t, it’s not specific as to what you’re saying. I can’t remember specifically saying that.
[SALLY’S NOTES: After the session, I did remember that incident. I was young, maybe 8 years old, I woke up with intense feelings, and even yelled at one of my brothers – I was angry- for something that they did in my dream. I was telling everyone I could tell that the dream was real, and ended up sulking because no one would believe me that the dream was real….]
KRIS: Our sense is that as a young child you accessed the memories of another focus’ experiences. To you as a child they did indeed seem as very strong dreams filled with the actions of these other people.
The relationships that you had in this lifetime with members of your family were different in those dreams. You may not have known how to interpret or even give voice to some of those dream experiences because standard experiences and relations dictate that you do not have other families but we believe that you did explore through dreams the memories of other lifetime focuses. In particular, you had a husband. This other focus of yours was also female but you had a husband and child whilst you yourself were but a child. That might have been difficult to translate. In that particular lifetime, you are French. You are not in a high court, but we would simply say the lower court system. Somewhat better off than the average peasant, allowed at courts but usually at a distance. You were engaged in that lifetime in forms of political intrigue we believe around the latter part of the 1500’s – some court intrigue – things that were rather prevalent in the structures and echelons of higher society as a means of excitement.
In that system, your husband in this lifetime is the one you know as your mother.
SALLY: Oh, Okay! (Laughing)
KRIS: In that French incarnation, your female focus has an interesting adventure after another. Passing on courts’ secrets, but the most interesting part is the people that you would meet. People that normally you would never truly interact with or have any contact with. People who traveled, people in the church and you, as was quite common in those days, engaged in a few extramarital adventures. One of the people you had an affair with is in this lifetime your partner.
SALLY: My current partner?
KRIS: Indeed.
You both found an interest to pursue in other arrangements, in other lifetimes. In that lifetime the two of you could not stay together for any length of time, as he was far more in a position of intrigue and as well could not possibly pursue any relationships to any great degree because of his clerical rather church office.
SALLY: Okay (laughing)
KRIS: It was indeed quite common for the clergy to have affairs as well, it made for a more interesting life. Now that individual is your present partner.
KRIS: Do you have children in this lifetime?
SALLY: No, not mine
KRIS: Indeed. Do you know why you made that decision?
SALLY: Um, well, I’m not sure, maybe because of my parents’ separation, maybe because I wanted to, I don’t know, I never felt I was ready to be a mother.
KRIS: What is your present age?
SALLY: I am 35.
KRIS: You see in that lifetime, in France, you had both a son and daughter. They indeed became a liability: in the sense that their lives were endangered by your own activities. So you had made a decision that as best as possible, you’d try not to have anything that would tie you down or, at least from the perspective of experience, prevent you from exploring certain areas of your personality. There are other aspects where in other lifetimes, you have many children. We are not speaking of armies of children, but many children as a means to bring about a certain equilibrium to some other lives where you do not wish specifically for children. And such choices do not necessarily affect your capacity for nurturing and motherhood. Do you understand?
SALLY: Yes, that makes total sense.
KRIS: Please continue.
SALLY: Um, yes, I was wondering if I have any ties with this gentleman who has been causing me, my grief, my present grief, his name is Liam (no, not really, but I think Liam is a beautiful name) and I work with him. (Just a guy I was SUPER crazy about, intense feelings, see him at work, everyday, I was totally distracted – and he’s not even handsome!)
KRIS: Are you aware of the preferences and the choices you are making along those lines and the inner conflict that has been generated as a result?
SALLY: Well I’m aware that I created the inner conflict. I think sometimes that it’s all in my mind, and you know, why did I do that?
KRIS: In some respects it is in your mind but not in the traditional sense, since all situations in one way or another are formulated at those mental levels it is then true to say it is in your mind, but again, but not in the classic understanding. Do you follow that?
SALLY: Um…….I’m not sure.
KRIS: When usually someone says it’s all in your mind they usually refer to a psychological or even psychiatric state, a pathology. This is not necessarily true since the inner workings of reality occur at these deeper layers – the subjective awareness. Do you follow?
SALLY: Yes
KRIS: In this vast area you make decisions and choices based on countless factors but entirely at the subjective level. In other words, at that level, you did draw into your experience a situation that would put you in conflict with your own belief structures and at the same time you allowed the decision and the unfolding events because the conflict actually has more or less changed how you feel about yourself and your world even to the point where you sometimes feel as if you are a bird trapped in a cage.
SALLY: Yes (laughing).
KRIS: And this has caused you much duress perhaps even to the point of questioning your own sanity. Does that make sense to you?
SALLY: Yes (laughing even more) .
KRIS: Have you explored some of the possible motives for bringing this situation into your attention?
SALLY: Oh, I’m not sure, I do know that because of it, um it’s led me to you, and it has led me to read, and to get interested in what you’re teaching. It has led me to that.
KRIS: Indeed. It has also led you at times to rethink what you thought you knew about reality. Correct?
SALLY: Yes.
KRIS: On the one hand there is a part of you that states that this is not necessarily what it wanted though you did want some kind of a change from the doldrums, and at the same time there is a part of you that feels an exhilaration and that thrives on it and you find that the two states appear as diametrically opposed but at the same time they are somewhat complementary to your disconcern. On the one hand we believe that you feel as if you should be saddened almost ashamed and at the same time there is an exhilaration here. Do you understand?
SALLY: Yes.
KRIS: So you are indeed conflicted on the many issues around this challenge. We believe it has also led you to re-examine what you thought was a solid foundation of marriage and your role in that relationship. Your partner relationship. Do you understand?
SALLY: Yes.
KRIS: So far what have you concluded apart from the fact that you are confused?
SALLY: Um, I don’t think having an affair is in my value system because I have not done anything, to initiate anything. Also, I don’t want to hurt my husband, or any member of my family…
KRIS: Including yourself.
SALLY: Yes, including myself yes definitely, but at the same time, I think, well….what if?
KRIS: Indeed, may we suggest that it might not necessarily be entirely Liam specifically that has enticed all these revisions of your reality and its foundation but something that is within Liam – something that Liam represents.
SALLY: Yes, yes, and I was wondering how I could figure that out, what is he representing for me, so that I can move on.
KRIS: Indeed, perhaps it will assist if you could find the means to eliminate the separation between yourself and Liam. By that we mean pretend for a moment that Liam is you and you are him, and if you allow yourself to sink into that mindset, what kind of issues does that bring up? What does it stir within you even deep so.
SALLY: Did you want me to do that now?
KRIS: Indeed.
SALLY: Okay.
KRIS: How long have you been married?
SALLY: Eight years.
KRIS: Indeed.
SALLY: I feel that he’s repressed, that there’s much more to him than he’s expressing.
KRIS: Indeed. Now, if you follow through with our little game, you are him. Would it be fair to say that there is a part of YOU that you have recognized also as being repressed?
SALLY: It could be, yes.
KRIS: It could be or it is?
SALLY: It is, but what part is it?
KRIS: That is what we are hoping to find with here. (Kris is starting to sound frustrated with me). You sense that he has unexplored areas of his life, what areas in your life do you feel are unexplored? And to make this somewhat easier, it has to do with your passionate intimate relation with your husband. There is something that you are not satisfied with that you are exploring through this new individual and it is not even physical. There is a psychological fulfillment that is not being met within your relationship. What do you sense it may be? What do you think it is about?
SALLY: I’m not sure, I just feel that my husband and I are not connecting somehow, like we should, I don’t know.
KRIS: You have a sense that there is a “should” that is not at this point.
SALLY: Uh-huh.
KRIS: Have you approached your husband with this unfulfilled “should”?
SALLY: Um, yes.
KRIS: And what do you see happening?
SALLY: I don’t think that he will be able to, to fulfill it.
KRIS: What do you think he needs to fulfill in you?
SALLY: I don’t know……….
KRIS: What would you like to see fulfilled in this area? (Boy, he’s patient!)
SALLY: I guess, feeling complete and connected.
KRIS: Feeling complete and connected involves certain values. What would be a name for those values?
SALLY: I don’t know. You’re good, you’re making me think.
KRIS: Please we suggest that there is a part of you that does know. (He may be getting exasperated with me by now, but still, so patient.)
SALLY: Yes, I know that. I know that I do know.
KRIS: Now, that is excellent.
SALLY: I don’t understand why I am blocking myself in this particular thing, because there are other things, wherein I let it go and it flows, and with this one, it’s like, I don’t want it to flow, for some reason.
KRIS: And have you thought of what it is you might fear in this area? Is it something you feel might be somewhat shadowy, even perhaps selfish or greedy to talk about?
SALLY: Uh, yeah, maybe.
KRIS: That it might perhaps even be something shameful in the eyes of others?
SALLY: Yes, Yes.
KRIS: What aspect of your present life is most fulfilled?
SALLY: Most fulfilled, at the moment, I would say, maybe for now, family.
KRIS: And what aspect of your present life is least fulfilled?
SALLY: I would say my marriage, and now my work.
KRIS: So some outer events are reflecting an unfulfilled value or set of values at the inner level. Subjectively, psychologically you are feeling an emptiness. What do you think that emptiness is about?
SALLY: I was thinking maybe I feel separated from myself, or, I stop myself from doing things, or from, from making friends, I think, I stop myself, I don’t know why, I don’t know why I’m afraid to have friends to…
KRIS: And why would that be?
SALLY: I don’t know. I’m afraid of rejection. I always think that my husband is going to say “no, you cant”, um have these friends, and he does, indeed, sometimes say that (I’m not an “indeed” type of person, but talking with Kris, you tend to pick up his vocabulary).
KRIS: Why do you think he would say that?
SALLY: I’m thinking if he’s a mirror of me, then I am saying that to me.
KRIS: Indeed, but specifically, why do you think he may wish you to have some friends and not others?
SALLY: Well, he’s afraid of me, cheating, or, I think it’s me, cheating, or it could be more than that. Maybe he’s afraid I will leave him. (His 1st wife had MANY lovers, so it’s an understandable fear – maybe it stems from that other life where we are lovers)
KRIS: Now one set of perceptions that we are aware of is that you think he sees himself as a rather strong individual, but he does not and he sees you as a very independent, strong person. You do not necessarily see yourself in that light either, though you are aware of some of your strengths, you do not play on them.
SALLY: For some reason, I always feel like I need somebody with me.
KRIS: The both of you are dealing with issues of insecurities.
SALLY: Aha! Yes.
KRIS: And both of you are playing hide and seek about those issues concerning each other. Some of the issues that you sense in your marriage as being some of the weaker links indeed are just that and they involve your insecurities, you have not built good communication around those issues, even though on other subjects you have very good communications but there are areas where you think both that there is this unspoken understanding that you do not talk about these things and this is where you actually do need to talk about them. You are both very strong people, but you are also both strong because you think you are weak. Do you understand that logic?
SALLY: Yes, I do.
KRIS: You have a mask, a mask of big strong person and inside is a little man or woman that says “do not pay attention to the little man or woman behind the mask listen to the mask only”. There is a core communication between you and your husband that has suffered from lack of communication, lack of attention, lack of affection and intimacy. Even when you and husband are intimate, there is not the DEGREE of intimacy that you intuit would fulfill you that is a good way to stop pussyfooting around the issue and get to the core. Correct?
SALLY: Yes. Now I have told him that I felt we’re not connecting.
KRIS: It may not be in a language he relates to. When was the last time both of you went away together with no one else? Even for a weekend of intimate passion perhaps in a romantic setting.
SALLY: We never have. (Really, never had a honeymoon, per se)
KRIS: Then it might be time to do so, even if for only a weekend, perhaps somewhere nice where all of the senses are stimulated. Do you understand?
SALLY: Yes, I do.
KRIS: That is one excellent way of connecting and we believe that that is a hunger within you and it will keep eating at you until it receives attention. It is not necessarily only about sex but the deeper level of sexuality and sensuality that borders upon ancient knowing within human beings related to sacred spiritual sexuality. Do you follow?
SALLY: Yes, I do.
KRIS: Now, most men like to think they are in control of their own energies. It is when they think they truly are in control of their own entities that they are actually their most frightened, like children. Children who are afraid of the creature that lives in the dark closet at night, do you understand that?
SALLY: Yes.
KRIS: They fear their selves, they fear their energies, they control it. We would highly recommend a weekend getaway. A weekend not just of sex, but a weekend of intimate sensuality where there’s not specifically sexual intercourse that is the object but rather everything else but that final act. Do you understand?
SALLY: Yes.
KRIS: Sensual caressing, massaging, playing, even extended foreplay, for hours if not days and simply ride that wave of energy to see what both of you are hiding behind. Does that make sense to you?
SALLY: Yes, it does.
KRIS: Now we do not profess to be sex therapist but we have been around enough times to understand human sexual games, especially those games that actually prevent oneself from truly enjoying the best of the experience. You may actually discover that though, what is your husband’s first name?
SALLY: (let’s use Adrian)
KRIS: Though Adrian might not be aware that he has an emptiness inside because men tend to not be aware of some of these issues at least consciously. Once it is triggered, he may actually recognize that is has been there as much as yours has but since you have this unspoken agreement that we do not speak about the emptiness inside, then everybody pretends everything is nice, and it is not. There are termites eating at the foundation of the house. They are psychological termites. You understand?
SALLY: Yes.
KRIS: Now did you think that your asking for a session would venture there?
SALLY: No. (Laughing and REALLY feeling embarrassed!) I did not.
KRIS: We are glad that you are surprised.
SALLY: But I trusted. I knew it would be helpful somehow.
KRIS: But you do understand what we are speaking about now. Even though initially there was some dancing around the issue, at least now you know what to target and we also believe that now that this topic has been brought, you actually understand what it is that has been gnawing at you, and you may even feel now, that Liam may actually play only the part of the mirror.
SALLY: Yes.
KRIS: We also suggest that you learn how to pleasure yourself. Do you follow that?
SALLY: You mean with him?
KRIS: With yourself.
SALLY: With myself. (Just shows you how uncomfortable and embarrassed I felt about this subject – I had to get confirmation).
KRIS: Indeed, you see the best way to make love to ones partner is to learn how to make love to oneself first. Then it is no longer a mere issue of quick sexual intercourse to satisfy an itch, but instead a much deeper act, an act of fulfilling each other. And in some respects you may discover that by learning to make love to yourself, you will eventually teach Adrian how to make love to you and at the same time how he can make love to himself during that process. This is a topic that is often difficult for others to understand, but we believe you are able, correct?
SALLY: Yes.
KRIS: Explore your body in the way you would desire Adrian to, then find the means to teach Adrian to explore your body in exactly that way and at the same time, teach him a few new tricks. There is an excellent small book that you may find in most places, it is called “The Multiorgasmic Couple”. We recommend you purchase it and gradually introduce Adrian to some of its concepts. Not by talking about it, not by reading about it first, by you reading about it, and experimenting, and then introducing him to it and actually take control of the situation.
SALLY: This is so funny. I can’t believe this is what we’re talking about
KRIS: You will find that eventually this awakens what he needs within himself as well and the two of you can eat at the buffet of life. And it may even become important to teach Adrian how to be receptive and submissive to the experience. Not to take control, but for you to do that for him. Do you understand the difference? Most men are trained to not only be in control of their own emotions and selves, but to be in control of any situation. But here it must be remembered that you are a partner. Therefore there are times when you need to take the reins. This will become very important because he can discover that men, too, can be and have multiple orgasms. Does that make sense?
SALLY: Yes.
KRIS: Now you also have a certain degree of, we would simply call it certain levels of shame upon this issue. It is culturally ingrained. These are the layers that have to be peeled back. Does that make sense to you?
SALLY: Yes, it does.
KRIS: Now this is not about sex or sexuality. It is about much deeper layer of fulfillment, and through these activities, the personality changes. Layers of intimacy deepen. The connections find less and less resistances and closed doors. Does that make sense?
SALLY: Yes, it does.
KRIS: And at the same time we are surprised humbly so that you do not berate yourself unnecessarily for wondering what could life be if you did have an adventure because it can lead to another kind of adventure such as what we are suggesting, and the easier and the quicker you recognize that you are reflecting through someone else, you can own your own challenge and do something about it, because otherwise you feel disempowered and not in control of your situation. And being in control of ones situation is not merely a mental act; it is also an act of physical activity. Actually doing something about it, and not about feeling shameful or bad for what one thinks. Do you understand?
SALLY: Yes.
KRIS: Now, you may wish to develop some kind of strategy, and it is a good idea, and we suggested to go away together for a weekend, a weekend of surprise, a weekend of pleasure, a weekend of delicacies. The delicacies being each other. Do you follow?
SALLY: Yes.
KRIS: How does this sit with you?
SALLY: It sits well, but now you got me thinking about the other guy again.
KRIS: There is also not much sense in dwelling upon the issue. It is quite common for one individual to fantasize about another even if the other is not ones partner, but it must be within context. That is understood.
Take the opportunity to explore the information, your potential use of it, and how you wish to manifest it. You might indeed find most your life can change very much so without necessarily changing your life. Now may we ask what time it is?
Indeed even though some of your questions may not necessarily have been asked, you may find that in retrospect, many of them have been answered in a way you did not anticipate. And we do suggest that we need to end our lovely discussion so that we can return Joseph to his environment. We trust that you will examine this information carefully and see how to make best use of it as you can. And surprise yourself, and then surprise Adrian with yourself. It is easy to show a man that he does not necessarily know all there is about relationships. Do you understand that? And do keep that lovely spirit bright. And we thank you for your consideration.
SALLY: Thank you very much Kris.
(Session ends)
Essence Samadhi
November 20, 2005
Kris Chronicles
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Ellen Gilbert (Kwaa’Ji)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on November 20, 2005
Copyright 2005 Avion Rising, Inc.
Roll call: Serge (Joseph), Mark (Philip), Joshua (Midora), Myrna (Shara-Leene), John (Soharse), Michelle and Jackie
(Session begins at 7:37 PM)
KRIS: Now, we are glad that you are all here and we thank you for your consideration. (Lots of squeaking chair noises are heard) Squeaky wheel chairs, rockers, and all other chairs included. Now sometime back, during some evenings at another location, we introduced the ideas of idea atmospheres, idea complexes and life threads. Do you recall? Those who were there?
(Yes)
(Long pause) We are looking for a word. Give us a brief moment. (Another long pause) What we would like to speak of and introduce this evening, ties into the presentation of idea atmospheres, but more so on the layer of ESSENCE. “Idea Atmospheres”, “Idea-Complexes” and “Life Threads” each follow in their own way, but they also have their own origin, and within the concept of Essence there is indeed a process that is difficult to put into specific words.
For the most part, under normal conditions you view and interpret Essence usually as a finished product and a solid, accomplished, almost static state of being because you view your lives in that manner and you interpret then, the source of your being with singular qualities while in truth, Essence — the source of your own being — is in a constant state of unfolding and revelation. And in order to accomplish its own unfolding, there is a process that Essence utilizes and it is innate within the conceptualization of Essence itself.
This particular process within Essence literally generates the dimensions necessary to meet specific criteria within which its expressions — or in your terms, focus personalities — can develop their own selfhood and express their own ideas of themselves, and develop their own myths about who and what they are. This process we will simply call “Essence Conditioning”, for lack of a better word at this time, because you do not have any equivalents to properly decipher and describe such a vast multidimensional development. Within this process, unique circumstances are mitigated and are deemed LIFE by the simple act of desiring that this be so.
And from this conditioning, certain aspects of Essence take on the responsibility of laying down blueprints for physical reality from which unique dimensions take their birth. And within those dimensions all of the particulars for unique versions of physical reality are generated. And within each expression of physical reality, Essence sends forth expressions suited for the various atmospheres that are optimum for those expressions to blossom, to evolve, to go through their stages, to express their own version of free will — the ability to choose specific belief structures and convictions — and to manifest their own lives both as a collective and as a separate individuality.
You could say in a certain manner that this Essence Conditioningbecomes the birthplace of physical realities. From this Essence conditioning, “Idea-Atmospheres” are literally vented, giving all the necessary elements at that inner or subjective level which produces the conditions necessary for untold types of idea complexes to be generated. And with these elements, in conjunction with the blueprints established by aspects of Essence, YOU — each of you –determine what factors are going to be important for your own unfolding and development through the various stages of your experiences.
And this is at a layer of your Essence that is so vast there is no space big enough to contain it. In actuality it contains multitudes of dimensions that in that term contain the spaces necessary to optimize your own developments. And as an expression of your Essence, you do have a certain say in the process because you will take those necessary elements to be used in the expressions of your own physical lives, which includes all of the tools and the resources necessary upon which you build the various civilizations of your collective AND the selves that you express within those civilizations.
We are speaking here of a dimension, literally a dimension of Essence — this Essence Conditioningprocess — that encapsulates such vast concepts of dimensions that your imaginations are barely able to grasp the notions unless you allow your intuitive nature to guide you through at least an interpretation of this portion of your own Essence, giving you at least a small idea of some of the processes involved. And of course you will relate to it in a manner that is suitable for your own purposes. And we may even assure you that as far as you stretch the boundaries of your imagination, still you will come up short in the end.
We present this because that knowledge of this area of Essence, this “Essence Conditioning”, can be useful when you explore who and what you are above and beyond your physical imagery. The idea that you are not your physical bodies, you are not your minds, but you are indeed something entirely different, and this physical dimension that you have your being within is but one of many contained within Essence Conditioning. And you as Expressions of your own Essence do have a certain level of access to this information, albeit perhaps in a limited fashion. You can still take advantage of the information as an added resource, a source of inner strength that you may utilize, perhaps in your meditations, in your dreams, or even allowing your own minds to wander into those explanations and into this territory to explore how it may indeed exert a nurturing and beneficial influence in how you identify with your own energy structure.
And we also present it for the purpose of perhaps even leading you away from the notion that Essence is something like an assembly line product, for it is not. And even though Essence knows itself, that knowing is nothing like YOU think it is, for it is a constant and permanent unfolding, a state of perpetual realization as to its own nature. If you are so inclined, perhaps we may lead you in a small guided visualization that may assist in stretching the boundaries of your imagination that much more.
All you need is to sit in a relaxed manner, whether you keep your eyes open or not is irrelevant, and the choice is yours. You may even engage a gentle and slow breathing process, allowing the full recognition that all of the stresses of the body are able to be expelled from you as easily as air is expelled from your lungs when you exhale. And keeping yourselves firmly anchored into the sound of our voice, using it to stay in touch with your physical reality, you find yourselves able to see the inside of your skull and you can see the cranial plates and the fissures between each plate. And as you continue to breathe deeply and relax, you can allow the cranial plates to actually separate and slide away from each other in a gentle, smooth fashion.
And through this opening in the skull, you can allow your own energy to leave, to rise above your bodies, knowing that your physical body is quite safe, anchored in the sound of our voice, whilst you keep rising through the ceiling, gently rising above the city. And far above you see the pretty stars, even perhaps the moon, and you keep rising until you are far above the earth, as far above the earth as the space station, and even rising above that into the depths of space.
And in this area deep in space, you can sense a thin veil of energy through which you can easily slide through into an area of vast light energy where you might even recognize what looks like celestial bodies, stars and planets, but instead of being in the dark of space, these are in an area of light. And in this vastness we ask you to open your minds, open your inner senses, and sense — become aware of — the psychological presence of Essence, its living dynamic force, which literally gives birth to worlds, to solar systems.
As far as is possible to imagine within this great Idea-Atmosphere, the very concepts, the galaxies and solar systems take their birth. And as you continue to be dazzled with this beautiful creation we ask you once again to feel out a different type of a thin veil of energy through which you can also easily slip through to find yourselves in an even vaster space, a space as bright, but with a different kind of luminescence, as if this space is self illuminating, where the energies are even stronger, and yet simultaneously more subtle. For from that element within this space, the forms of the previous area take their birth.
And stretch the boundaries of the very idea of yourself to take in as much as you can. And allow yourself to resonate with, to soak in and absorb the benevolence and the grace and the natural original goodness that exists in this raw elemental energy state — a grace of Essence Conditioning– a place that is definitely free form, but unformed, concepts and ideas that may exist merely as seeds.
And we ask you to gently go back through that thin veil, back towards the place where the raw elemental energies are transformed and translated into the concepts of conditions suitable for worlds, solar systems, galaxies and universes within at least one if not many dimensions; and sense the power involved in transforming those raw elemental energies into those types of forms that will appear, that will shimmer, and literally blink into and through the first veil you slipped through that you would consider the depths of space and physical expression reality.
And gently be drawn back by the sound of our voice into your own bodies sitting in this room, and as you literally pour yourselves into your forms, your bodies, those lovely expressions of your energies, you sense the cranial plates closing once again, being anchored into the knowledge and wisdom that your bodies make a very good home, ones you express in this reality, in this time and space. And take a deep breath; wiggle your fingers and your toes. Take another deep breath and on the count of three you will be fully into this room, into this moment. One: breathe and move arms and legs. Two…. and three, open your eyes and clap your hands. Now we will give you a little space break so you can recuperate.
(8:14 PM Break starts)
John makes the comment that he doesn’t think he ever went that far “out” before during a guided meditation. Michelle says she felt Kris was taking her to the Void, which brings Kris back to comment:
KRIS: Now, you must understand what it is when you say the “void.” The general idea is a vast space of nothing, but we tried with this exercise to, in our humble fashion, show you that indeed, there is no vacuum at those layers of consciousness, simply different arrangements of LIVING energies, dynamic, powerful energies. Does that make sense to you?
(Yes)
JOHN: Well it does now!
KRIS: And these areas — different from frameworks two, three and so on — are indeed so RICH that all of the physical dimensions imaginable or unimaginable cannot completely express those energies, at least not in the sense that you are accustomed. None of the timelines that you can imagine, even at the layers of universal time, are sufficient to give those raw elements sufficient manifestation. So complex are these types of raw, elemental energies that words eventually fail because it is truly nonlinear.
And yet, you are able to capture at least a glimpse of those notions for yourselves and this in no way is meant to overwhelm or dwarf your sense of self, but instead, to enable you to grasp that your own ideas of self as you understand it, are — what is a good expression? — A TAD limited. And in these great unbounded areas, life exists in forms completely alien to any idea of life or form that you may have, but still form is not a prerequisite of life, form is an expression of life, one of MANY. We then will continue to give you your “spacey” break.
(8:20 PM Break starts)
JOHN: Interesting. I made the mistake of thinking in terms of quadrants when he was going out there, but it’s interesting, he’s saying it’s a separate sort of scale.
MYRNA: When I went through the first veil, it had a golden-like light, and at the second veil, I thought it was light blue light.
SERGE: I don’t know the full details of it, but I got the very distinct impression that these areas are other areas of Essence, still within the context of Essence.
JOHN: Oh, yeah, definitely.
MARK: What I was getting was more visual, I started out sort of in a geodesic design out of which the triangles form the sphere except it was three-dimensional and the triangles also went inward and then when the connections formed it made me realize that every unit of consciousness is ATTACHED to every single other unit of consciousness CONCENTRICALLY, so that no matter which unit of consciousness you’re looking at, you’re at the center of the universe…every single one touches every other one. It was a visual.
[MARK’S NOTES: This concept is similar to the discussions regarding the “Expanse” in Star Trek: Enterprise.
http://www.krischronicles.com/transcripts2/enterpriseexpanse.html ]
MYRNA: Have you seen that image anywhere?
MARK: Well, we talked about geodesics before and Bucky — Buckminster Fuller (designer of the geodesic dome) –
JOHN: That’s what they’re calling the new little nano things — “Bucky balls.”
MYRNA: Nano things?
JOHN: Well, nano… uh….they’re little things they constructed — this nano technology?
MYRNA: yes..
JOHN: And these things are called Bucky balls, that’s the name they’ve given them, and they’re just little — I don’t know if its carbon, or what it is — they can do things –
SERGE: They’re very strong, right?
JOHN: Yeah, and then there’s tubes as well…anyway, yeah, its fun, isn’t it? We’re going “out”, right? But what if when you go “in” you get to the same place?
MARK: Yeah, I was on the verge of going into trance myself, my head snapped back and it actually woke me up. (Laughing) It was like, “Whoa! I’m going deeper!”
MYRNA: Yeah, me too.
MARK: Today on the subway I had one of those days where I had — now in hindsight — I had some insight into some of this session up front.
SERGE: So it was a good meditation?
JOHN: It was lovely, we went out to the further reaches of the — “back forty” let’s call it — of Essence! (Group laughter). John continues to describe the meditation to Serge, to the point where Kris described the area of Essence Conditioning)
SERGE: Just like — a workshop.
JOHN: Yep. It was very interesting.
MARK: Very core energy.
JOHN: Yes, he said that at the farthest level things were immensely strong, but immensely subtle, and he talked about the — imagine the time and energy required to translate across those veils, and this is what Essence is doing. It’s nice to feel that Essence is constructing all of these universes within which we can have our optimum opportunity for our own explorations. Essence is good to us! (Group chuckles)
MARK: To say the least! It not only creates you, but it creates the air you breathe, the food you eat — the Universe you live in!
JOHN: You gotta realize that — if you didn’t, there’d be a problem.
MARK: No matter what form you happen to be residing in, you’ve got the necessities.
SERGE: I know I felt strongly he was looking for some kind of a word.
MARK: Yeah, at the very beginning there.
JOHN: “Conditioning.” He ended up with conditioning, and I got the feeling he’s not happy with it.
SERGE: No, because he’s already used the word, “Idea-Atmospheres”. I got a sense he was looking for a relatable word…. but I’m not sure what it is….
MYRNA: Oh, that’s right, he did say — “we don’t have the word.”
MARK: Sometimes he goes into other languages, like Sanskrit, to come up with heavier duty words, like for instance, the Sanskrit word for “love” which represents so much more than the word “love” means.
(Break ends at 8:32 PM)
KRIS: Indeed, if we had to choose words from the ancient Sanskrit language, we would use a combination of two words. The state of Essence in particular would be called “Rudra-Samadhi”. The typical interpretation of the word “Samadhi” (Kris spells it) is a state of bliss from the human perspective, a blissful trance state where there is an apparent union with all of life. Rudra is a name of the deity Shiva, but represents an aspect of Shiva that is in deconstruction mode, taking things apart to rebuild them. So we would combine the two — an Essence Rudra-Samadhi state — because at that state, there is indeed formless form, a state of existence for energy before it becomes conceptualized to later on be transformed into the objects and the props that you observe in your collective physical reality. Does that make sense?
(Yes)
To be practical, we will simply refer to this layer of Essence as “Samadhi.”
MYRNA: Meaning what again? Sorry, Kris…
KRIS: It is a blissful, trancelike state…and even though you are accustomed to thinking that a trance state is typically relegated to events or rajas — actions of consciousness, such as what Joseph is engaged in at this moment to enable the exchange with ourselves — you do not yet perceive or understand that being an expression of Essence, a focus personality, is itself a unique trance state; a highly concentrated one at that. And Essence is always in a trance state of one kind or another as it continues to express itself through all the means possible in terms you understand, and in terms you may never understand from the linear perspective.
So action is what conscious is. It is Essence. And this great Samadhi state which you can revisit when you have a few free moments — and we trust never whilst driving (laughter) — and this specific meditation we cannot stress enough: Do not attempt to even venture in that state whilst driving!
Now in that state, the Samadhi, we referred to the possibility of seeing or even sensing, forms that may even be meaningless to you. They may be geometric or otherwise. These are combinations of raw elemental energies that eventually become those foundations for physical transformations later on, even though the processes are occurring simultaneously. In that Samadhi state, you may eventually recognize that you, as an Expression of Essence exist as something entirely different than the form you are familiar with when you are safely couched within your fleshy selves.
And you may also notice that even though forms have an entirely different design and may be unrecognizable symbols, and even though there is a great unity within this state, you are still able to identify with yourselves, separated from anything else in that environment. Does that make sense to you?
(Yes)
In other words, the concept of the great oneness where everything is a big blob is rather misleading and we do not know any blobby entities! Everything is quite uniquely individual! As each of you are. That is the one trait and characteristic and quality that you express so well from Essence as yourselves: your lovely, authentic individuality. What a great gift this is! What a great blessing and grace you are gifted with, and you have gifted yourselves with your individuality.
This is where there are often conflicts and where problems arise, when you feel it is inappropriate to express your individuality. Where being yourselves would somehow or other be a source of shame and guilt. And when teachings impart information to the faithful that say that expressing your unique individuality is a sin, then in such situations if we have any advice to give, it is to get your lovely tushies out of that situation! Because this is the GREATEST gift that you give yourselves from your own Essence source, YOUR INDIVIDUALITY.
With that individuality you generate and transfer energies the likes of which are as brilliant as the stars in the firmaments. So we urge you to cultivate that individuality. This does not make a cult to individualism, rather the simple recognition that you are who you are and that indeed you are not damned because of it, but indeed blessed and grace-filled for it. If you wish then to add to the exercise — given previous with loving touch — then ponder upon these past few words and seek to awaken through loving gentle touch, this great gift and allow yourselves to shine with it as if your very being also is self-illuminated with blessings and grace. Now we suggest a small break.
(Break begins 8:44 PM)
MARK: I realize now after his comments that the geodesic that I saw, in every unit of consciousness connecting to every other unit of consciousness, was the PROCESS of Essence Conditioning. It was ongoing at every level. You could see them going outwards to every level, and every other going out to it. It wasn’t necessarily a map, but it was a visualization of ACTION.
SERGE: I felt this part was almost as deep as the meditation.
MARK: Yes.
JOHN: Yes, we’re getting some pretty wide and deep perspectives.
MARK: During that last little bit I had visualizations again of my own Essence that I never had before. It’s usually Philip is male, it’s…. I try to look at him from that male perspective, but this was like — a group. It’s almost like the old Greek Gods, you know, up there in their council and their white robes with their thunder, and it was all of them, or a bunch of them, anyway.
JOHN: Ah!
(The rest of break consisted of chitchat until Kris returned at 8:55.)
KRIS: Now then, perhaps we will be most kind to your brains and not tax them any further this evening unless of course you have questions.
JOHN: Well, I was thinking of one question, Kris. In this last little while, I have been getting more and more familiar with these, my energies. Not necessarily my physical body, but these, let’s call them the energies that I’m manipulating to have this experience here. And I was wondering if there’s any exercises or techniques to zero in — from what I understand, it’s very subtle, it’s not something we’re familiar with — is there a way to become more aware of my own energy?
KRIS: Next time you are anywhere — literally anywhere or any place — look about you as if you are taking inventory. In fact we would even say, AS you take inventory of your energies, because anywhere, any place, IS your manifestation, it is YOU in another expression. Do you understand?
JOHN: I think so. So the physical environment is one way of understanding my energies.
KRIS: Indeed, it is one of the interpretations of your self, your energies, amongst many others, including the people that you see, the actions that you witness, the subjective states that you are experiencing, these are all encapsulated within your self-expression. You see, you cannot get away from yourself, no matter how you might try. Does that make sense to you?
JOHN: Yes.
KRIS: Your energies are not limited to your body parts or your subjective states. Everything that your physical senses perceive and interpret is your energies in action, the raja of consciousness. In this case it would also be the Tantra of Soharse.
JOHN: (Chuckling) Lovely! The Tantra of Soharse, lovely.
KRIS: Indeed.
JOHN: Now, as I become more aware of those energies, is it fair to say that I’m going to become more aware of choices that I have to manipulate the energies in directions that are beneficial?
KRIS: It is fair to say that you could do no less, as long as you remember that there are certain rules that apply that are agreed upon collectively with your lovely self giving agreement to this. We are speaking of laws of physics. You cannot, for instance expect to direct your energies to levitate you above the traffic. Other than that, you are entirely free to see the manifestation of your own inner field of events projected outwardly into the outer field of events, the panorama of life as your senses interpret it. Does that make sense?
JOHN: Yes. What I’m beginning to notice, whether it has to do with the widening of awareness, what have you — when I am just riding my bicycle or talking to someone — there will be some little incident will occur in the corner, in the periphery, a little person will appear, a thought will flash, and be gone. And I’m beginning to get the feeling that those are significant.
KRIS: Indeed, what you call consciousness is a small pinpoint of attention utilizing the example of a beam of light from a flashlight into a dark room. What you see as illuminated by the light of the flashlight – that is your consciousness at that moment. If you alter the beam of light you get different perceptions of consciousness, different experiences. Do you follow?
JOHN: Yes.
KRIS: However, if you switch it over, you have a different attention, different consciousness. Still consciousness, but the attention is directed elsewhere. However, Self, Essence, is not limited to one bulb and it does not use batteries, not even Duracells. Consciousness, at the level of Essence, is multidimensional. Not only does it illuminate ALL moment points in the eternal now, but it also illuminates all of the dimensions that it generates. And you have witnessed in a certain manner that it can do so quite lovingly, correct?
JOHN: Yeah!
KRIS: Now, as the term “widening of awareness” implies, consciousness is not widening itself, it is already as wide as possible. But the ego construction is taking more and more of that attention into consideration. Does that make sense?
JOHN: Yes, that is exactly what I was talking about.
KRIS: Indeed, therefore as YOUR unique individual awareness widens, you are definitely perceiving bleed-throughs of other moment points of attention. Your ego construction IS allowing what it fears less and less to come into focus. Does that also make sense?
JOHN: Yes, it’s thrilling, actually.
KRIS: Indeed.
JOHN: Thank you.
MYRNA: Kris?
KRIS: Indeed?
MYRNA: To John’s point — and I’ve said this before — there have been many profound teachings here for me with you. One of them is that as I look around this room, for example, and I see you in the form of Serge or Mark or whoever, and I realize that that’s Myrna, that’s my energy, it’s telling me about me. So I look at Mark and I see a certain personification of ME. I love that. I love that.
KRIS: As you should. Your focus of Myrna is also lovely. Therefore that loveliness should be reflected adequately.
MYRNA: (Laughter) Right! Thank you. And it’s helped me to let go of judgment because after all, you’re there, and he’s there or whatever to teach me about me, so why judge? I love that, and it also makes me more loving. What I’m aware of however, is that I stumble sometimes when I come across one or two people in my environment who I envy — not many, one or two people, and they’re both women — who I just think have such…such…I don’t know what it is.
KRIS: In other words, perhaps it is that you recognize that YOU think that you do not express those qualities.
MYRNA: Obviously.
KRIS: Then, the teaching for you is to reconcile what you think you do not have with what you have already and perhaps come to an agreement that even if you do not demonstrate those unique qualities in the same way you might demonstrate other qualities that you have, they may still exist albeit perhaps in a less prominent fashion, but they are still gifts that you have for yourself.
MYRNA: Or I wouldn’t SEE them out there.
KRIS: Indeed, it is not that you LACK them, but you may simply recognize that, at some point you may develop those as well.
MYRNA: Well, there’s a longing quality so perhaps it isn’t envious…no, envy is the wrong word…there’s a LONGING quality. And the moment I start feeling a LONGING about somebody is the moment when I know I need to own this, because that’s…that’s me…right?
KRIS: Whether you recognize it or not, indeed. You might very well simply long to find the opportunity to display those qualities directly.
MYRNA: Yes. Okay, yes.
KRIS: It is perhaps like bowling.
MYRNA: Bowling.
KRIS: Indeed, you may see the fellow in the next lane hit all of his or her strikes whilst you only knock down one or two pins until YOU focus and suddenly YOU get a strike.
MYRNA: Okay, thank you.
KRIS: So therefore do not forget your bowling shoes.
JOSHUA: Kris, can you tell me what happens when you judge another person? You know, a lot of times we are very good at being critical and judging ourselves, but what’s going on when we’re judging somebody else?
KRIS: In many respects, though many people might feel that judging is a great thing, it should absolutely never be. You could say instead that you are recognizing a part of yourself that you are in denial about. It is a variation on duplicity, instead of integrity. Do you understand?
JOSHUA: I think so, yeah.
KRIS: In other simple words, love that part of yourself as well, and you will find it less stringent to recognize it being displayed in someone else. Does that make sense to you? And those who make the greatest claims and speeches against judgmentalism are usually those that are waist deep in it. Do you understand?
JOSHUA: Yes.
KRIS: There is a difference between judgmentalism and judgment. Judgment implies preferences and choices. Judgmentalism is another issue altogether. We were referring to judgmentalism. What is the time?
MARK: 9:11
KRIS: Indeed, beautiful numbers this evening. 737′s and 911′s. Then if there are no other questions, we leave you to your lovely selves, to your Samadhis and may your dreams echo the sweet songs of your own souls.
ALL: Thank you, Kris.
(9:12 Session ends and we start talking amongst ourselves.)
(Mark explains that the session started at 7:37 and ended at 9:11 and that just before the first participant arrived, he and Serge were watching “Disasters of the Century” and it detailed a plane crash of a 737 back in the 1970′s and of course when there is an emergency of any kind it is considered to be 911.)
[MARK’S NOTES: Myrna was asking about ways of breaking non-productive or abusive patterns. Kris comes back to add to his previous response to Myrna.]
(9:45 Pm Comeback)
KRIS: We have in the past made mention of your intrusive – self-intrusive — and destructive behavioral patterns, your mental habit patterns. We have suggested that an initial exercise in Acknowledging, Addressing and Accepting of those patterns is an excellent place to start. If you do not know where you are coming from and what you are doing, it will eventually become difficult to identify a mode or modality to transform those patterns from self-destructive and self-intrusive into constructive, nurturing and uplifting situations.
Most often when you recognize after the fact that once again you have forgotten the moment, you have stepped outside into an arena unfamiliar to your place of peace or mindfulness, feeling loss of personal power or authority for whatever reasons, you will continue to hover in that uncertainty. One of the quickest remedies in this area is to have the patterns recognized for what they are and to establish, or perhaps we should say pre-establish alternative responsive strategies.
Remember those words: ALTERNATIVE RESPONSIVE STRATEGIES. So you know that if you get into situation A, which sets off your own alarms and you respond with fear and perhaps even retaliation, and you become then reactive, you can establish a very different response. First of all, one that is pro-active, one that is constructive and nurturing and having worked out various steps that you feel comfortable and secure in utilizing. You can then as we Philip suggested, anchor the constructive, nurturing response so that you do not become reactive, but proactive whenever the situation happens to crop up. Do you follow so far?
[MARK’S NOTES: Anchoring is an NLP technique, NLP being Neuro Linguistic Programming.]
(Yes)
Secondly, recognizing the reasons why you go into a fear-based reactive state will be immensely helpful in defusing your responsive patterns. Does that make sense?
(Yes)
Indeed, this way you have two alternatives that work hand in hand. The second one helps you bridge the situations so that you can honor yourself still whilst you are in a state of transition from reactive to proactive. And whilst moving in that direction, you defuse, perhaps even let go of those reactive patterns. Does that also make sense?
(Yes)
Therefore ask yourselves WHY. You remember that exercise? (Kris is referring to his “Just Ask ‘Why’” exercise.)
MYRNA: Kris, I’ve been asking myself why in many different modalities for about 30 years now, and it comes down to an existential sense — you know, if I take away all the layers — it comes down to an existential sense of “unsafe.” I know that you’ve talked about the “Safe Universe”, although not when I was a part of this group. I need a re-conditioning — or an Essence conditioning, or a new Idea-Atmosphere, or whatever — around safety. So it doesn’t matter whether it’s the therapies I’ve done, or have trained in, or whatever it is, I still struggle with the sense of unsafe.
[MARK’S NOTES: Kris has spoken about the Safe Universe, but the “Safe Universe” is a Seth session that is out on audio tape.]
KRIS: Indeed, when we speak of a safe universe — firstly, do understand we are not speaking about a safe physical universe — that universe of which we speak is YOU. You are the Universe. You can be a safe Universe unto yourself. Does that make some small sense to you?
MYRNA: Oh, um. A small sense.
KRIS: At its most basic level, we do not perceive that you feel unsafe in life, but rather unsafe as to your responses to life. There is indeed a difference between the two states.
MYRNA: Oh, God, I’m going to have to…um… (Laughing) Okay, I obviously need a private session! (Group laughter) I don’t feel unsafe in life, but my responses — say it again please?
KRIS: Your responses are not trusted.
MARK: You’re second-guessing yourself in your responses.
KRIS: When you play with the idea of loving touch, what do you perceive? What is your state of mind? As Soharse has so quaintly put it: Where is your energy?
MYRNA: Looking for something that’s wrong. (Pause) I’m going to have to practice loving touch.
KRIS: Then we put to you: look for things that are lovely.
MYRNA: Okay, then I’m confused, because if I’m looking for something that’s wrong, there is at a very core level a sense that I’m not safe, and you’re saying that you have a sense at my core level, that I feel safe.
KRIS: You are ALWAYS safe. Your core level is not what you think it is. You are perceiving your rational core, but there is a core that goes way beyond the rational perceptions, the core from which you spring forth into physical reality. Does that make sense to you?
MYRNA: Mmhm. Yes.
KRIS: And instead of looking for things that are wrong, look for things that are lovely. It is said, we believe we have heard it somewhere, that you get what you concentrate upon! (Group laughter) [This is just a basic Sethian premise!] (Humorously) At least that is what the grapevine has told us! So make that a game. Discover what is lovely, what is honoring any other voice that tries to make itself heard in your mind. You have options. What do you do if the television is too loud? Do you take the remote and make it louder, or lower the volume, or turn it off?
MYRNA: I turn it off.
KRIS: Indeed, you can simply suggest to those critical inner discussions, that at the moment, you are more interested in turning up the volume on those voices that point out all the lovely aspects of you. And if you catch yourself thinking there cannot possibly be that many lovely parts to you, then you do need to turn the volume right off! Does that make sense?
MYRNA: Mmhm, yep, yep.
KRIS: Make it a fun game!
MARK: Where you always win.
MYRNA: (Laughs) I think that explains why I get into automatic responses and don’t stay in the now — is that I’ve got those other voices, most of whom I don’t even hear, but they’re there. (In a musing tone) I don’t hear them, but they are there, and I go into automatic, I mean (Kris begins to speak)….oh, never mind! I get it, I get it! I get it, thank you.
KRIS: Indeed, some individuals are more kinesthetic, they FEEL the energies of those inner discussions. Other individuals are more visual, they see pictures.
MYRNA: My body tells me.
KRIS: You are kinesthetic.
MYRNA: Thank you.
KRIS: You are most welcome. Now when we return you to your lovely individualities that is for you something to look into. Trust that individuality and have a lovely individual night.
JOHN: Thank you, Kris.
MARK: 9:59
(Session ends)
Tom from Hawaii
November 19, 2005
Kris Chronicles
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Tom Chez (Desiré)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on November 19, 2005
Copyright 2006 Avion Rising, Inc.
Kris: Now we trust that you are comfortable and we thank you for your consideration.
Tom: Hello Kris, this is Tom – Desiré.
Kris: Indeed.
Tom: Good to talk to you again. I’d like to continue our discussion from last month on communications and information retrieval. I have questions written down and I thought I’d just read them from my computer screen – specifically with the topic of future selves. I’d like to start off with my own description of simultaneous time and then perhaps a few questions on that.
When I imagine a simplified model of simultaneous time as it applies to the life of a focus personality, I imagine time as a sphere, perhaps the size of the Earth. I picture a horizontal line across the sphere’s equator that represents a lifetime. The right end of the equator representing the moment of birth – the left end (representing) the moment of death. All other points along this line represent the moments in between (life and death).
I imagine another sphere, perhaps the size of the moon, representing Essence in the eternal moment. I imagine myself looking over the shoulder of Essence as a focus personality is created. I see Essence project a beam of light across the equator of the time sphere. This beam is horizontal and reaches all points simultaneously.
Now looking closer I observe the beam passes through some clouds that are called framework two. As this beam of light interacts with these clouds there is a diffraction effect, thus creating simultaneous probabilities in time. This entire process is over and finished almost as quickly as it started.
Now, based of this simplified model I have the following questions: This model implies that the “me” that I am today was just now created. I also have a memory of specific events from the “probable diffraction” of a previous history that was also just now created. Is this a valid model of my life in simultaneous time?
Kris: Your description is well thought out and though it is based upon a linear understanding you still managed to incorporate elements of non-linear expressions.
The idea that all of the lives, the expressions of Essence occur simultaneously, regardless of their environment or dramatic setting such as different historical periods. All existing within the framework of a larger moment you call simultaneous or eternal now.
And you can play with some variables. For instance you have your progression from right to left various points representing focuses. Correct?
Tom: Yes, it represents every day and every moment.
Kris: Indeed. These can also be considered focuses – points of attention.
Tom: Ok, yes.
Kris: In your schematic the progression is linear. But if you played with variables, you can also insert crossover lines intersecting with each moment point but in the vertical direction. Each one of those has intersecting moment points, that are themselves uniquely crossed with other horizontal, or horizontally inclined paths, giving you an extraordinary complex schematic of moment points. And yet each moment point however transversed still is uniquely valid – even it diverges from the main, because even the main can be a divergence of yet another string of moment points.
And from a larger context still you referred to the planet Earth. Now you referred to the moon as Essence. If you stretch the boundaries, you will take into consideration that the Earth is part of a planetary system – other celestial bodies orbiting around a sun. The sun itself orbits other planetary systems that you call the Milky Way galaxy. The Milky Way galaxy also orbits other types of galaxies.
Tom: So this is like a pathway to our core self, going first to Essence, then on to a larger framework, then larger and larger.
Kris: Indeed, you are and will always be more than the sum of all of your parts, even from the perspective of focus as a reflection of a gestalt hood of larger and larger bodies of Essence. We have described in the past that which you consider to be your source self, your Essence, is itself part of a system of Essences, other Essence bodies composing a larger, multidimensional structure, itself part of yet a larger multidimensional system, and (so) on.
For many people it is almost overwhelming because it seems to dwarf the ego. But in truth the dwarfing/overwhelming effect only appears within individuals who identify perhaps overly with the ego construction. Once there is insight into these layered and nested perspectives of selfhood, once there is an intuitive understanding that the self is a very complex structure, then that initial sense of being overwhelmed by the vastness of selfhood actually dissipates. The ego construction realizing that it will not be crushed by the weight of the psychological self, but that indeed it is part of a vast rich nurturing network of energies that can support it in every which way as soon as it stops fighting the system, so to speak.
Tom: Yes. I wanted to dedicate an entire session to the ego (some day). It all comes back to that main point: “What is the ego allowing?”
Kris: Indeed, consider for a moment a government system in one of your modern democratic/bureaucratic societies. Each government has various ministries if you will. And each ministry has many more departments and sections – each responsible for the proper functioning of that ministry and its mandates. You have a rather large structure. The ego likes to think that sitting at its desk in one section of a department of a ministry of the government that its tasks make it feel as if it governs the entire government. Once it sticks its head out of the cubicle however, it can realize that the government is much bigger than it thought. It may not be in charge of the entire system, but at least in charge of its own cubicle. Does that make sense?
Tom: Yes.
Kris: And if you include this rather crude analogy to the workings of Essence. You can consider your Essence to be one government system amongst many others that would compose a global government system. Each country managed by a different government still responsive to the whole. Does this also make sense to you?
Tom: Yes.
Kris: Please feel free to continue.
Tom: Ok, my second question. It is my understanding that echoes of events from probable diffractions of my future are hidden from me in the now. Is this task performed by my ego or is it somehow automated – a part of our blueprint for human life?
Kris: We would venture to say yes to both. There are built-in safeguards – part of which we have just explained – part of which belong to the blueprint. Until the individual and its carefully crafted ego construction are sufficiently mature to enable an opening, an allowing of materials or information that may not strictly derive from sensory perceptions alone. And in a manner of speaking you have a built-in predisposition to innate knowledge over and above and beyond sensory perceptions alone.
For instance, you went to school to learn how to read and how to write and how to structure thought. Correct?
Tom: Correct.
Kris: However, do you ever recall going to school to learn how to see or how to hear or how to think?
Tom: Not at all.
Kris: Indeed. In a specific manner, these capacities welled up from within you. You were able to see and hear and think before anyone tried to structure those functions. Correct?
Tom: Yes.
Kris: This is part of the processes that are innate to all individuals. And behind those capacities are fonts of knowledge, wisdom, and information, much greater again than any knowledge you can acquire in the ordinary sense of the word during any one lifetime. You have what your present sciences call the unconscious: a complete knowledge of how many cells – not only compose your body right now – but also how many cells you have shed and grown in your entire lifetime up to this moment, as well as how many times your heart beat, and how many breaths you have taken, how many times you have blinked your eyes, and chewed and evacuated.
Below that layer of knowledge you would also have information pertaining to how many Expressions of Essence are experiencing their own histories and lives during this vast eternal moment, regardless of the historical backdrop those lives are dramatized within. You have then a vast storehouse at the level of these expressions of Essence and access to each of their particular storehouse of knowledge, as they would yours, through the auspices of Essence itself. Their inner selves…
Tom: That is a question I had listed here: Do all communications go through Essence or are there some communications that are direct – from a future self or a past self to a current self?
Kris: Because Essence is more than the sum of all of its own parts, more than even the sum of all its expressions – that vital knowledge is part of the makeup of Essence itself. So it cannot necessarily bypass what its part of. So it is simultaneously shared at all levels.
Imagine for a moment that your own personal unconscious is reflected more as an outpost connected through the central server – which is Essence – to all of the other expressions, whether you consider them to be probabilities future, past, alternate, or otherwise – like a living dynamic immensely complex computer network. Does that make sense to you?
Tom: Yes, and I have a question on that. You mentioned the analogy of the ego as a boarder patrol official last time. Is the ego involved in stopping the outbound flow of information to other times and probabilities and does Essence filter any of this information?
Kris: The boarder patrol would only act on orders it receives from you. If there is a programming involved that suggests that information that comes from other sources – in such cases (as) the unconscious – it might be suspect, it might prove harmful, it might be an inner terrorist, and therefore it must enact the ego patriot act. But it can only do so if it is told to do so.
And in your present society there is still much resistance, and even outright fear of these inner communications, because they will ultimately change the nature of the ground of your being. And many people prefer a nice steady/steadfast reality where most things are relatively always the same, so that you know what to expect, because what is unexpected is often feared. So the ego does not act out of malaise and of its own accord, it acts in conjunction with the beliefs that you hold.
The more you entertain and literally domesticate the idea that exploring inner realities is an opportunity for excitement, for discovery, for understanding. Just as enriching as when a paleontologist goes out in the field and starts dusting the rocks and looking for clues of ancient creatures literally petrified within the stone. So the inner explorations allow you to become like an inner paleontologist, dusting the shelves of ancient wisdom, opening doorways to knowledge that has been with your race for eons of time.
Tom: You mentioned that if the ego is annihilated that ego retreats and a new one emerges. In this situation do several egos serve in different portions of time in a given life?
Kris: If a traumatic enough event is created within the parameters of the personality structure, then the ego construction may more or less shatter, so to speak. Its apparent fragility tested beyond measure. And because the – we are looking for a word – the literal blueprint of the ego stems from the very construction of the inner self. A new ego construction will rise from within. But it will not be new in the sense that you understand the word new: as in fresh, never seen the light of day before. It will have a foundation on which to build. There may indeed be some changes to the personality, changes that may even be noticeable to other individuals. Some of them may indeed be severe. But for the most part, they may be almost unnoticeable.
Tom: Would more than one ego exist within a lifetime? Given our idea of linear time…
Kris: Depending upon the life paths, the life threads of the particular individual and what kind of challenges he or she would have set up. Where it feels it might indeed invite – for its own purposes – challenges so traumatizing that various ego deconstructions and reconstructions would be part of the plan. There is no specific set amount such as you can only rub the genie lamp three times. Do you understand?
Tom Yes. Ok, in time then, would there be more than one ego – or does the incoming ego replace all other egos? This is hard to picture…in simultaneous time…
Kris: You could even say that it is still the same ego, simply another version of it. Perhaps version 1.2
Tom: And probably not a very common thing to (have) happen.
Kris: Again depending upon situations. There are periods of human history where wars for example, holy wars have been waged to such a degree that if the conquered people did not convert – such as when the Ottoman Empire invaded upper Africa and southern Europe. And the Muslims or Turks put a blade to your throat and said: Do you renounce your Christianity and praise Allah? Or do you prefer that we slice your throat now?
Many people would have given their lives. But many also choose to change their entire personality structure and accepted their captures rule. This would have necessitated a form of ego death, to create an entirely new paradigm of the personality to live within the confines and the rules of the captors – or the conquerors.
Often creating a schism within that individual because it was expected that almost immediately they abandon all of their previous mindset. This would have also caused a type of collective ego perishing.
Tom: Ok. Question. Based on this model – communication from a future self will not happen unless the following conditions are true: One, an excellent relationship with the ego. Two, a belief that it is possible. Three, the self in the present initiates (contact) and tries to send information to past selves. Would all three of these statements be true?
Kris: Not specifically and again you are observing it from a linear perspective. For instance, an individual may very well be completely unaware of even the concept of a future self, completely immersed in the life that is commonly lived by millions of people worldwide, completely immersed in the play of physical reality.
Within those parameters they may still experience dreams that may suggest that they do not board that plane tomorrow morning. They may have an impulse to buy a lottery ticket or to call a friend who may provide them with opportunities they might have given up on.
These are perhaps crude examples, but they might also be sendings, postcards from the future in a manner of speaking, interpreted with in the context of that individual’s present life.
Tom: Is there an effort involved in sending that postcard?
Kris: Indeed not. It may be done completely effortlessly in all directions, because underneath the surface you are still linked – whether you realize it or not – to this vast computer network of Essence self.
Messages are transmitted back and forth, sometimes unaware to the focus personality, but always there and available if focus personality decides to explore that vast domain. But even if there is no exploration nor even the slightest inkling to investigate this domain of existence, the information still flows, but you would simply be blocked off from it. You would simply deny it, considering that occurrences are merely coincidences, and nothing more.
Tom: Would that imply that there is no need for me to try and send information to past selves, no need for a meditation or desire? Would it happen automatically?
Kris: It may – the operative word is MAY – imply that, but in the sense of widening of awareness, and the development of your own higher intellect, which includes a more expanded capacity of intellect and rationality and emotions and imagination. Your efforts in those areas do not go wasted, but instead increase the capacity to make this information available to you, thus enriching your understanding of life (by) ten, a hundred, or even five hundred fold.
Does it matter to the man on the street whether he breathes from the upper chest or the abdomen? Not particularly. But if the man on the street makes an effort to alter the way in which he breaths and makes use of the oxygen, perhaps even to extend and heal his life, then making a consorted effort to cultivate this knowledge and this capacity within his body is to his advantage. Does that make sense to you?
Tom: Yes. Now along those lines, when you stress love and healing as the keys to wisdom and information flow, is this merely for the sake of getting the information to flow past the ego?
Kris: Not necessarily past the ego, but with the ego, involving the ego in the process, thereby again enriching that bed of knowledge and wisdom. As the ego stretches its own boundaries, its own parameters, and basically speaking its own programming, the overall individual gains in perspective (and) is able to reach beyond the mere capacity of the me, me, me generation and all of what it entails, and begins to understand what it is like to be the other, because the other is you.
And in that simple sense then, it develops deeper empathy. That capacity also can lead to empathy towards other selves in the Essence sense – other focuses, other expressions. In that way it increases its understanding of what it is all about, what is the big picture. Is the big picture only its backyard? Or is the backyard the entire world? Each one is valid on its own, but there are certain degrees of validity involved.
Tom: I’d like to ask one other question on simultaneous time. When we look at the simplified model and the horizontal line – all (moment points) simultaneously occurring, that line could also have perhaps a width and a depth to it, maybe proportional to its length. That got me thinking about what Seth had said about the inward and outward pulsations of time. I was wondering if you could maybe shed some light on that.
Kris: Indeed, to explore this we need to bring into the discussion the units of consciousness. You are familiar with pixels on your monitor. They literally blink at a certain ratio. Correct?
Tom: Correct.
Kris: One that is slightly faster than the eye can see or notice, thereby giving the illusion of a steady image. Correct? You could say that in a rudimentary fashion that units of consciousness are literal pixels of consciousness, and they blink much faster than you could possibly understand. Now, this involves – in the same way in when you blink – momentarily the world seems to disappear, and momentarily it reappears when you open your eyes. Correct?
Tom Yes.
Kris: There is an apparent disappearance of reality, as much as there is an appearance of reality, when these pixels, these units of consciousness blink in and out. Where does reality go? Does it disappear? Indeed not. In some way what occurs with these pixels, these units of consciousness, is the creation of many realities simultaneously – the units blinking (in) all of these. There are then literally thousands, if not millions of realities contained within the expression of a blink. Does that make some sense to you?
Tom: Yes. Are those realities related to our reality – as more than just an outside dimension that has a slight influence – is it directly related to our reality?
Kris: There are some that are indeed related and others that are not – not even remotely – not even in the sense that you would recognize even their laws of physics.
Tom: Ok, so that is the pulsation of time.
Kris: Indeed, in a rudimentary explanation, indeed. This is also based upon the rate at which information jumps from one synapse to another with in the brain. And you have a specific – not you yourself but the human race – has an agreed upon rate of transfer of information along the synaptic paths. But it is not the only path that is available to you.
It is possible to accelerate or decelerate this flow of information. And this can be done with practice, to a certain degree, within your own brain. Your perceptions of reality might be [from] ever so slightly to even more so altered. Radios work on the principle of frequencies; we believe you call them Megahertz. Is this correct?
Tom: Yes. Frequency modulation, Megahertz.
Kris: Some radio stations use lower or higher modulations. And this you can attest to when you tune the receiver. As you move to one station to another in your locality you get bleeps, blops, bloops, and blaws, and sometimes just plain old hissing sound. Because your receiver is picking up other stations but is unable to focus in upon them.
In a similar manner, other perceptions of reality are available to your race. But when you tune into the brains receiver, because the brain is the interpretive portion of the mind, some of these stations appear as distortions. Not because they are distorted but because simply the brain is unaccustomed to drawing in that station. Though some would simply think that (they) are simply distortions in reality, but they are not.
It is a matter of practice that can enable different speeds/frequencies of synaptic pathways to interpret reality. These lead to interesting alterations of consciousness.
Tom: I can see that would also increase information flow. I would like to kind of shift gears here to ask a question about my friend that you spoke about last time.
Kris: Indeed.
Tom: You mentioned last time that she would not be with this other man in this lifetime. Could you elaborate on the physics behind that? Is it because two exact same situations cannot happen in two different probabilities, because it would waste energy?
Kris: We mentioned that because from our perceptions, his intentions are not to truly leave his present situation.
Tom: I see. Ok. I thought maybe there was a (law of) physics going on that affected the probability. I wasn’t sure what the reasoning was behind the scene. I’m also curious on behind the scenes how this type of counseling works. Did you make contact with an aspect of her Essence to discuss this matter or is this just things that you perceived?
Kris: Perceptions operate in a manner similar to this: If you’re walking in the valley amongst the trees, the small rivers, the rocks – it may be difficult for you to see the overall lay of the land. But if you decide to climb up the mountain to see further ahead on the lay of the land, you may be able to see that at some point you may have to alter your direction. Perhaps there is a boulder; perhaps there is a ravine that cannot be crossed or so on, some obstacle or another. That you would not be able to see until you actually get to that situation if you were still on ground zero.
Now, you may notice from this perspective that there are certain blocks to your road. And perhaps if you climbed even higher you would not only see the obstacle, but you would be able to see around it – how to get around it, because you are on a higher perspective.
This would give you a much greater field of vision. Do you understand?
Tom: Yes.
Kris: In some respect, we have access to a certain number of probabilities within the focus. And we can at times describe what lies ahead on that particular road. This in no way guarantees that we are one hundred percent infallible. We are not the Pope. We are being facetious here. Do you understand?
Tom: Yes, I think it means that it may be possible but it’s not very probable.
Kris: That is correct. There are always possibilities open to everyone. But the probable outcome of all of these possibilities would not necessary be available to each individual.
Tom: So your discussion was based on what you saw as – perhaps from zero to one hundred percent – you ranked it as being maybe one percent possible, or less than that.
Kris: Indeed.
Tom: Do we have time for one more question?
Kris: Indeed.
Tom: Ok. You mentioned (last time) she had much anger inside of herself. Would you discuss the source of this anger for her? She would like specific information about her past – where this anger may have come from and how it relates to her present situation.
Kris: We sense several different – the word category is not necessarily as appropriate as we would like. But there are different veins here. There is an intuitive capacity with in her, but she seems to be unable to bring herself to break free of certain fears of striking out on her own, of establishing an independence that she would like. As if she needs to hold on to a situation, even if it is a hopeless situation, because it has a certain degree of expectance. She knows this situation A, and even though this ship may be sinking, she will still hold onto it because she does not know situation B. Does that make any sense to you?
Tom: Yes.
Kris: We believe this is a source of frustration, which comes out as anger – not knowing how to actually express her own aggressive energies. And we believe also that, even as a child she was not particularly encouraged to develop her own potential, even though she may have sensed, had desires, had goals she would have liked to explore. This is our perception. These are some of the issues.
There is a sense of resentment also. These can be greatly reduced if not entirely converted to a greater sense of well-being and fulfillment, and that is the key. Sensed lack of fulfillment – unable to find the key that will open the door to her fulfillment. Does that make sense?
Tom: Yes.
Kris: In one of the more recent sessions on Joseph’s web site we talk about touch. If that simple action, of loving and compassionate touch were practices, even if on herself by herself, she might find some benefit indeed.
Tom: Yes. She has barriers to any action in that area. She believes that what she feels is who she is – and that is just the way it is.
Kris: Indeed, and we believe this is a situation similar to a young bird in the nest knowing that at some point its very bird-like nature may urge it to open its wings and make the leap over the edge of the nest, trusting that its ancient instincts will lead it to find the correct amount of air under its wings to lift it to flight. But at the same time hesitant, fearful because it has to leave the nest.
Mother bird has a good recipe for that. It is called: “Kick your ass out of the nest!”
Tom: (Laughing – Kris is on target!) Ok, well I guess that finishes up our time here. That was very helpful. Thank you for taking the time to discuss this with us.
Kris: Indeed. The pleasure and honor is ours. And again we thank you both for your consideration.
Tom: Thank you Kris.
Kris: Indeed. Pleasant journeys – until next time.
(End of session)
Vehicle of Expression
November 13, 2005
Kris Chronicles
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Ellen Gilbert (Kwaa’Ji)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on November 13, 2005
Copyright 2005 Avion Rising, Inc.
Roll Call: Toronto: Serge (Joseph), Mark (Philip), Joshua (Midora), John (Soharse), Myrna (Shara-Leene), Lida (Miriam), Andrea (Jarasen) and Martin (Turinga).
Castaic: Paul H. (Janaki), Jo (Rosalie), Jene (Mildor), Ester (Benata), and Denise (Behaar)
Oregon: Norm (Ambrose) and Reta (Leihuu).
Delaware: Ellen (Kwaa’Ji)
Netherlands: Emmy (Atin Khum)
Seattle: Don (Ramuel)
Tennessee: Carter
[ELLEN'S NOTES: This session marked the largest group phone conference involvement to date, with seven locations calling in from three different countries. The creative, imaginative 3 and the mystical, analytical 7 -- a good numerological combination!
There was some initial confusion in the beginning, as no one was able to get into the conference at first, then Serge and Mark discovered that when they had emailed each participant the phone number, they had used one wrong digit. After contacting everyone separately to inform us of the correct number, we all finally connected in, with chimes and cheers accompanying each participant's entrance.
Everyone remarked upon the clarity of the reception among all the voices and different locations. A roll call was taken. Emmy, calling from the Netherlands, was the last to phone in. "So we're ready!" Mark said. "Then where's the dead guy?" Serge quipped. Mark joked that he's probably still trying to call in with the wrong number.
Paul reminded everyone to please observe certain protocols such as, when asking Kris a question, to first state their name. "Who said that?" John shot back.]
(Session begins at 8:00 PM)
KRIS: Now we are glad that you have all managed to connect and indeed we thank you for your consideration. We believe this is the first time that so many people are joining us even though you are not all in the same location. And we are certain that to some degree there is an irony involved in this kind of a process. Whichever way you look at it there is always a certain learning curve in getting all of the correct numbers figured, all of the correct numbers touched into your devices so that you can make your connection, and you are so accustomed to your modern technologies’ almost miraculous function of bringing people together sometimes from clear on the other side of the world.
Your level of familiarity with such technologies and processes is literally no skin off your collective noses, and yet so many find the process of connecting and remembering Essence SO challenging and difficult and yet we can tell you it is far easier than to punch in all of your numbers in all of your technologies combined. We may even be so bold as to say that in some way, your present attempt and participation — as well as consideration to be part of this delivery this evening — is a part of the process of your connection with Essence, whether you consider US Essence or merely a voice for your OWN Essence.
Either way, you are making a connection and though you have perhaps no knowledge of the places your telephone lines are traveling through, no idea of the psychological atmospheres your telephone connection is bridging from one port to another to make this call, though you may not understand the processes and technologies and the switches involved, you still make the connection.
And similarly, though you may not understand the specifics of your connection with Essence, and though some people may sell you a bill of goods that says it must be done in this way for so many seconds, at so many vibrations per second and so on and so forth, you do not need any such specifics per se, to connect with Essence.
What IS Essence? Do you give this any consideration? Who would like to pitch in for that answer? What is Essence?
MARK: Anybody?
DON: This is Don in Seattle, I’ll throw something in. I think of my Essence as viewing ‘All That Is’ from a particular vantage point within All That Is. And different Essences are really viewing it from different tonal viewpoints, of from different tonal coordinates. That’s it.
MARK: Anyone else?
ELLEN: This is Ellen. Sometimes I think of Essence as just me. Sometimes I think of Essence as my personal god, or my Oversoul. Lately I’ve been reminded of the myth of Pygmalion and Galatea, are you familiar with that?
MARK: Yes.
ELLEN: Pygmalion was a sculptor who made a beautiful statue of a beautiful woman and he fell in love with his statue, and Aphrodite gave her life. So it was LOVE that gave her life. So I think sometimes Essence is just Love.
KRIS: Anyone else?
EMMY: This is Emmy from the Netherlands, and I think that it is quite difficult to explain in words what Essence is, but I think it’s Joy, and I think it’s really Life and the energy in which you experience it, and it’s rippling out to everything, I guess. (Giggling) That was my attempt at this time of night! (It’s very late in the Netherlands)
KRIS: Indeed, each of your answers is correct. You could describe Essence as the sum total of your being, but that is a tricky statement because your being is always more than the sum of all of its parts. So to say that Essence would be the sum of your being, is not necessarily adequate because there is always more to your being than you can possibly be aware of. And from your human perspective, from the vantage point of the ego construction, you indeed see and understand from a very small view, and you try to accommodate the ever changing and growing sense of Self in the same way that the infant may try to understand its life from any given moment, even trying to imagine what its life may be like as an adult.
It may have certain pieces of the puzzle, but not all of the pieces at any one time. And if you were to gather, bring together all of the pieces that belong to any one time, you would still not have a complete picture of what that is. And in some strange way, even though you might offer some qualifiers — Essence is Joy, Essence is Love, Essence is what I am, and so forth — you can rest assured that of all things, Essence is not static, it is always in a state of transformation, even though it is always itself.
And that is possibly one area that frightens the ego construction the most when you take it along to explore the vast domain of Selfhood, or Essence, for the ego construction has a fascination with the idea of a standardized self, a self that is rather always the same, with the occasional nuances added in for flair and flavoring, but that for the most part will always be identifiable in that same way. And though there is a portion of Self that does maintain that approach for the sake of the ego construction; the wholeness, the totality of Self is always in a state of change and transformation.
We have said before, in other sessions, that even your environment is an extension of whom and what you are. That includes your homes, your work, your cities, your parks, your forests, your rivers, your oceans, your mountains, your whole world, and you can continue to include your solar system, which is in what you call the Milky Way Galaxy, which is part of an even larger process which continues into greater and greater selves and yet these physical expressions or manifestations are only those aspects of Essence reality that the ego, the personality structure, can translate into its own terms.
For behind all of these manifestations are energetic processes that could easily overwhelm the ego construction. Thus it is safer for you to interpret energy and energetic manifestations and processes in the terms that you do interpret it. It gives you a certain vantage point. It gives you reassurance that on the surface, things look pretty much always the same as far as you can tell with your senses. That is why we often refer to the physical senses as pretty liars.
They do not see the energies and the processes involved in transforming consciousness into cars, houses, mountains, roads, planes, clouds, oceans, other bodies,[or] yourself, but behind those senses is an individuality that can choose other venues through which to communicate and interpret its greater sense of Self. If you pretend for a moment that you are looking through your eyes as opposed to thinking that your eyes are seeing, you may gently detect or perceive a slight difference in that sense of YOU. An ever so subtle differentiation between the way you normally identify who you are through the auspices of your senses and bodies and rearrange, re-organize the manner in which you interact through the interface of your body and its senses. (Pause)
And we urge you to recognize the subtleties involved as if you were a separate thing from your bodies, perhaps even miraculously suspended within and animating the image that you call your bodies. And pretend for a moment, as you are so nicely couched within that fleshy image, that you can move about even a little bit, that you have that freedom, almost as if you were flexing a muscle or two and with this movement, you might even be able to detect that you can gently apply an outward pressure to this fleshy suit. (Pause)
And as you continue to examine the subtleties involved in this separation from self and body, allow this sense of self to easily spread even beyond the confines or the contours of your fleshy image as if you are consciousness, awareness, that is expanding. (Pause)
And gently bring back your expansion — contract it, pull it back towards the center of your being — and once again take into account that you animate, give energy to, your body of flesh and bones, but that is not what you are. And in fact, this body, this image of flesh and bones, is one of many others that you manifest in other times and places. But this image of flesh and bones is YOUR interface, YOUR vehicle, for this experience. And it is both as solid and as ethereal, dreamlike, as you can recognize.
And even though you may have pretty eyes and pretty ears, those eyes and those ears cannot see nor hear themselves, but you know that you are not those eyes — those ears, those noses, those bodies — that you are the life force that gives energy to that body. And for as easy as this small exercise is, take into consideration that communication with, connection with Essence is no more difficult, and as easy — and it CAN be easy — as for you to connect with and communicate with and through your body.
For when you use that body to express your SELF, you do exactly that: the body is the ‘Vehicle of Expression’ in the environment you are having your experiences. And that Self, which is different from the body, is eternal and immortal. It knows no birth, no death, for to it, there is only LIFE. That life is loving, joyous, it is what it is. That is your portal to Essence. The more you recognize and utilize such a small exercise, the more you will recognize that gradually you are identifying more and more AS Essence, whilst still fully conscious of your responsibilities and your acknowledgement of your physical experiences without mistaking one for the other.
The physical expression is an expression of your Essence, of you, but it is not the whole package. Yet you — who animate, give life to that image — have merely to turn your sights inwardly as easily as you turn your sights outwardly to see the beautiful imagery and constructions of physical creation; so can you turn your inner sights inwardly and recognize that as Essence, you are part of an almost incomprehensible process, ongoing process of creation, that knows no beginning, no end, that simply IS.
And that, in many respects is as simple as we can make it at this point in time. It is a practical matter for you to consider exploring the communication, the connection you have with your greater being from the ego’s perspective. And we believe this to be important, because without the proper encouragement and edification of the ego in that respect, your journey would be more difficult. But if you actually befriend the ego in such a manner as to allow it to grow without trying to destroy it, then it is indeed doubly to your advantage to explore and grow in communion with your whole Self and not sacrificing part of the self for any so-called spiritual purposes.
EMMY: Kris, this is Emmy from the Netherlands. Can I comment a bit on this?
KRIS: We would ask you to keep your questions for later.
EMMY: Okay.
KRIS: If you can, write it down so you will not forget it.
EMMY: I will do that.
KRIS: Indeed. Now what is the time?
MARK: 8:33
KRIS: Then we will suggest a small break and we will return you to your lovely selves, whatever you think you are.
(Break begins at 8:33)
DON: This is Don. Ellen, do you still find yourself in tune with what Kris is talking about tonight, as you have?
ELLEN: Oh, most definitely.
DON: Yeah, me too.
ELLEN: Each week he seems really keyed right in on whatever I’m processing myself. Do you find the same thing happening?
DON: Yeah, yeah, I’ve been thinking a lot about physiological responses to emotions and yeah, how that relates to what’s going on in Essence. So anyway, how about you?
ELLEN: Yeah, body signals, and yeah (chuckling) — just about anything happening in my body anymore, I think it’s a communication! (Laughing)
SERGE: What if you eat beans?
ELLEN: (Laughs) Same thing, Baby! Music! Music of the spheres!
(Raucous group laughter)
EMMY: This is Emmy. Just before the session began, I was asleep — because it’s 2:30 AM here at the moment — and I had a dream of this exercise.
ELLEN: You dreamed of this exercise that Kris just –?
EMMY: Yeah, totally!
ELLEN: Oh wow! That’s awesome!
EMMY: And it was a conscious dream and I was hovering inside my body, and I was thinking “Why am I doing this now,” but now it’s clear to me why I did that!
ELLEN: I guess so!
EMMY: Yeah, I was really stunned when he began to talk about the exercise.
DON: This may be why we had the phone problems. So you could finish your dream before we started! (Group laughter)
EMMY: Yeah, maybe! Could be! (Laughing) But it was exactly the same, so it’s really strange.
DON: That’s wonderful.
RETA: This is Reta. Once again, I think this is one of the best explanations of Essence. There are so many additional parts that — what he said — the sum total of your being, that the “all parts” is what most of us have no definition for, so I thought that he started getting into so much of the explanation that it was good.
PAUL: And he also added the whole is always greater than the sum of its parts, too — he did that Yin/Yang paradox. To any map of Essence –
NORM: – Emergence qualities… it would be defined as the emergent qualities of organization.
ESTER: This is Ester.
SERGE: Hi, Ester.
ESTER: Because I was tired, a lot of change in my life, a lot of things are happening kind of fast, and I was thinking I just wish it wasn’t changing all the time, that I could have some static (laughs). I wanted the static part! And I was acknowledging that that is what I actually wanted, and I was longing so strongly this week to be static, to be stopped with all of this –
ELLEN: Oh yeah, and now he says that Essence is never static, right?
ESTER: (Laughing) Exactly! And I know it’s okay, and I know I know that, but I still wanted it! I wanted the static.
MARK: I understand where you’re coming from. My schedule — I never know it until Thursday when my schedule for next week will be, and it’s always different. And it’s really frustrating!
ELLEN: Yeah, that’s retail.
MARK: The other thing is that half the time they don’t schedule me and they phone me, so I have to sit and wait by the phone, so I can’t plan anything, I can’t predict anything, it’s just, “Are they gonna call, or are they not gonna call.”
Discussion continued on the quality of our phone conference connection. There was general agreement that a very short period of static happened near the end of Kris’ delivery, with some drop-out of a few words — interestingly enough – when Kris used the word “static”! — but otherwise, a very clear connection and voice quality among all participants, for which we all felt gratified. There were some questions concerning the transcription process. Ellen, and Paul, who has also transcribed some sessions, spoke of the connections now being made among the websites, including Sethnet and Newworldview as well as the Kris Chronicles. Paul mentioned that the transcripts are helping to draw people to the material and the sites, and that we are helping to facilitate that by adding personal comments, footnotes, providing links and giving readers opportunities to expand their knowledge and broaden their explorations. As a result, all of the sister websites are experiencing more “hits” from around the globe lately.
PAUL: It’s quite beautiful — the web — having this stuff available and on the web so quickly — published on the web within a week — and we’re beyond vanity publishing at this point. It’s really a very semi-pro publishing thing we’re doing here with our websites.
ELLEN: I guess they are! (I’d never really thought of it that way, being just enthusiastically devoted to the material itself, as I have been for the Seth material for many, many years. For me, this is a labor of love, both my work for the Kris Chronicles and my Inner Visions forum on newworldview.com)
PAUL: They’re really quite a legacy that we’re all contributing to, bit by bit, week by week, year by year.
Paul referred to Emmy’s very interesting dream that she posted on the Inner Visions Journal on Newworldview a day or two earlier in which she experienced an almost conscious connection to some aspects of her own Essence, suggesting they continue their discussion begun on the forum.
http://www.newworldview.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=3&t=000961
(Mark has to interrupt Paul and Emmy’s conversation as Kris returns at 8:46)
KRIS: Nothing stops a conversation like the dead guy dropping in!
(Group laughter)
Throughout human history — and when we say human history, we are not merely referring to your known version of history, nor your historical timeline alone — but throughout that colorful history, human beings have tried in one way or another to emulate that deep connection with Essence, with the Source of life, through their religions, their philosophies, through where civilizations rise and fall and everything in between.
This does not imply that what you do must therefore be false. On the contrary, you are imaginatively and creatively making a concerted effort to bring about, within your own terms, that GREATER energy that you interact with. And as all the time you — meaning collectively — create religions, each religion making an attempt to interpret that connection with Essence. You do so through your arts, your inspiration. There are times when your religions, your arts, and inspirations are tied together. You often do so through many of your sciences, in spite of the fact that whether through your religions, your sciences, your arts, your philosophies, you get lost in the translating itself.
Your very creative genius at building civilizations is another attempt to replicate the stages and the growth and the transformations that exist within the spheres of Essence. You do so through the various systems that make up your own civilization, or civilizations, whatever those systems may be, however they are interpreted. And as Essence, you revel in the EXUBERANCE of creating as you do, even if at times your creations seem slightly marred and scuffed. And by individually making sincere and concerted efforts to bridge that communication yourselves, you ready yourselves for adventures that can indeed shake and rattle the very foundations of reality that you have come to believe are solid, are understood, are a fact, because as we have said earlier, Essence — energy, consciousness –is always in a state of transformation as YOU are always in a state of transformation.
And even that which appears physically real and solid and ever unchanging to you and your eyes and your senses, is something you might benefit from looking at again but with a different point of view, from the observer within the vehicle of the physical senses. Seeing how buildings, walls, solid matter actually is NONE of these things, not solid in terms of consciousness, but always transforming in the same way — or nearly so — as when you see the heat rise from the road on a hot summer’s day when you look out into the distance — not smog — heat! We wish to be clear on that one.
Everything is therefore transforming itself as your lovely physical bodies are also changing from one moment to the next. You are in the driver’s seat, but you have over the ages and over the years, come to identify with the vehicle as opposed to the driver that you are. And when you play at DRIVING the vehicle, instead of BEING the vehicle, you will indeed note some subtle — and perhaps even not so subtle — differences. Not that you can go faster in your body vehicle, but that you can note that you are indeed something quite different, even though you can simultaneously still identify with the vehicle, the body, you are simultaneously something else.
That something else gives energy to that body. And when that something else that you are exits the body, leaves it, then, in every day terms, it is said that he or she has died. In actuality, he or she has not died, but has simply left behind an organization of matter that is energy for other pursuits, other adventures, having outgrown the parameters of its physical vehicle, recognizing that it need not identify with that body any longer. And the more you play with these ideas — the more you expand upon them — the easier it begins, the easier your connection begins at this mate with Essence and remembrance.
And you utilize the physical body in many different ways to actually communicate those things to yourself. You know that you are not your feelings or your emotions, but that you have them, even though there are times when you identify with them so strongly [that] to think of being anything else may be sheer folly, but you communicate through the body, through feeling tones, emotions, and so many other ways. Consider what makes the difference between you who think of yourselves as alive and those bodies you consider to be dead. Can a dead body engage in a lovely conversation with you? Can it taste your beautiful foods? No, though it becomes food for others, and so on and so forth.
The difference is that the form that is called the dead body no longer has an animating force. There is no driver in the vehicle. The driver has left the building. Now, all of you are in your driver’s seats, but there are many times when you are able to also leave your driver’s seat momentarily without giving up the body or the vehicle and if you pay attention — notice when those occasions occur — you might benefit that much more. We are not talking here of when you are sleeping and dreaming.
We are speaking of when you are awake, engaged in some activity or another. Even then you cannot keep your own consciousness from exploring other areas and having other adventures simultaneously, even while you are pre-occupied with a function or another. Still, you will notice, a portion of your attention has apparently drifted to inner dialog and conversations and adventures that may even be very far removed from the attention you are focusing upon. Even to experience of projection — conscious projections of consciousness, some of which are quaintly described as daydreams — when you imagine it would be so much nicer if you were on a sandy beach in Hawaii instead of slaving away at the office, without necessarily realizing that a portion of your consciousness IS relaxing on a beach in Hawaii.
When you pay attention to such small, innocent excursions, you will also gradually note that you are engaged in far more than the ordinary inner dialogue, that you are indeed, at some other layer, engaged in a state of communication with Essence, with your Greater Self. And by paying attention and recognizing those incidences, it IS easier and easier for you to invite and allow those communications to take place in the light of your conscious mind where the processes become INTEGRITY, where ALL aspects of Essence are involved, including the lovely ego construction. Thus by paying attention, you facilitate and even accelerate that process. Does that make sense?
(Yes)
This is an extremely simple process. You do not have to contort yourself into pretzels, you do not have to stand on one leg, rub your head one way and your tummy in another while chanting secret incantations! All it requires on your part is to take notice of the mood that you are in. We have often referred to a meditative mood. Consider this a natural extension of that mood that seeks communion and communication with Essence. Now what is the time?
MARK: 9:06
KRIS: Then indeed, we believe you can find some way of taking questions.
MARK: Okay, let’s start with Emmy, since she already has one.
EMMY: Yes. I was sleeping just before the session began and I had this dream experience, and I think it was about the exercise you just did. I was sleeping and I was very conscious of moving inside my body to take another perspective so to say, and I think I was getting more bleed-throughs of this session already this whole week and — yeah, I’m just stunned about it, and I wanted to comment on it, it wasn’t really a question, it was more something I noticed, and it’s amazing how everything is connected!
KRIS: Far more than you suspect. You have developed an affinity, a sensitivity, to dream states and you may recognize then that many dreams are actually precognitive, but when you allow the word “precognition” to expand beyond its normal parameters, you may then understand that there are INCREDIBLE connections that can be made on all levels. You intuited through the dream states a portion of the discussion, and you wove it into your experience. Do you follow?
EMMY: Yes, I do.
KRIS: Only by paying attention and recording your dreams, can you notice the high degree of precognitive elements that are found within dream states. And as we have just suggested, expand the boundaries of precognition and you will greatly surprise yourselves… Any other questions?
DON: This is Don in Seattle, I have one. I have an observation, or a perception Kris that I wonder if you can relate to what you are discussing. I’ve been noticing very strongly recently how when I’ll have an emotional communication, I’ll notice it, and I’ll even feel like I know what it’s about, but then for a period of some time afterwards — which can range for a few minutes to sometimes longer — I’ll feel that I have no control over the physiological reaction itself and then I feel, for that amount of time, like a prisoner of my body, rather than integrated with it. Could you relate that to what you’ve been discussing tonight?
KRIS: There are different degrees of perspectives involved. For instance, if you look at the objects that are merely feet from you, you notice them in a specific way, but if you cast your glance several more feet behind the first object, then they are still in the picture, but somewhat less important. And if you cast your glance many more feet beyond that, the third layer has more importance and prominence than the second or the first, yet each one of them is still within the lines of vision. Correct?
DON: Correct.
KRIS: When you are in your own experiences, you can shift your perspective to another point, perhaps consider ten minutes into the future, knowing how the experience may already had been able to influence a certain transformation into what you feel at that moment, being able to look back from the perspective of ten minutes into the future. Do you understand?
DON: Yes.
KRIS: We suggest you attempt this next time and observe what occurs in your experience.
DON: Okay, thank you, Kris.
KRIS: You are welcome.
MARK: Any other questions?
JENE: Kris, this is Jene in Castaic. I have a question outside of this particular discussion. Within a limited time frame, an opportunity has come my way to be a part of a very huge foundation, a humanitarian foundation. It’s one of those thoughts that’s too good to be true, but the possibilities for expansion in terms of the Shift of Consciousness being a part of a humanitarian aspect all over the globe, and I’m doubtful that it’s actually true–! (Laughs) — And that it will manifest itself around the first of the year. Will you comment on that for me?
KRIS: What is its nature?
JENE: To provide housing and food and medication for the underprivileged and the injured, — like Katrina, Wilma, and on and on — for the poor. My part of it would be something along the lines of security or to be a HR for the small army that will be gathered.
KRIS: And what is your trepidation?
JENE: Well, I’m a doubting Thomas, don’tcha know? I see the vastness of this, and at the same time I doubt that it will manifest.
KRIS: (Pause) If this organization plans to set itself up in that short amount of time, it might be within the realm of possibilities, but humanly speaking, if the organization portends to have this solution in place in such a short amount of time, then — (Jene interrupts) — Continue.
JENE: It’s an organization that’s been around for quite some time — a foundation — so the actual humanitarian aspect of it has been in existence for a very long time. This new — let’s say appendage, or area — is what is going to be a very short period of time in developing.
KRIS: Indeed. Now may we inquire as to why your doubts are prominent?
JENE: (Laughing) Oh, just because I do! You know — one of those sayings — if it’s too good to be true, it probably is.
KRIS: But you still feel that, somehow or other, such a process should be given a fair chance.
JENE: Absolutely. I believe the possibility is there, within our reality and our universe and within Essence, that there are those who are willing to share their abundance and their wealth with the world and this particular foundation is one that swears to this, and I’m excited on one hand and I’m doubtful on the other.
KRIS: Perhaps it might be a good compromise to be doubtfully excited. (Group laughter)
JENE: That’s it, pretty much! To be moving from one stage, in a sense, to another.
ELLEN: Or excitedly doubtful.
JENE: (Laughs) Excitedly doubtful, yes.
KRIS: Repeating that overall, in spite of your doubts, you have a certain confidence that this may be good for you.
JENE: Yes. I do.
KRIS: What would happen if — you took that plunge? What would it be like if — you allowed this opportunity to flourish?
[NOTE: See Kris' October 10 session titled "What Would Happen If...?" http://www.Krischronicles.com/2005-transcripts/oct-10-2005-wouldnt-it-be.html]
JENE: It could create massive change.
KRIS: Even if that massive change begins in small packages, in small events, it can lead to an interesting transformation. Of course the decision must always be yours to make.
JENE: Correct. I guess I’m just looking for support. (Laughs)
KRIS: There are no guarantees, but you can explore the potential for you. Take a dive and see how wet the water is!
JENE: I’ll do that. Thank you very much.
MARK: Next?
KRIS: (Pause) Then indeed, we have a question for all of you, or would you prefer, for y’all? (This is an apparent nod to Carter, who has called in from Tennessee)
(Group laughter)
DON: What is your question, Kris?
KRIS: Next time you give your attention the opportunity to communicate with Essence, ask yourselves why you have wanted it to be so difficult for so long?
(Thank you)
You are all most welcome and we thank you for your consideration and may you have a beautiful week filled with lovely moments of Essence.
ALL: Thank you, Kris.
(Session ends at 9:21)
PAUL: Would someone repeat the question, because we had some coughing here, I just want to verify what the question was to ask.
(Jo and Jene laugh together at Paul’s annoyance with them.)
JO: I was coughing!
JENE: And I was about to!
JO: (Cracking up) I’m driving the vehicle and I am coughing!
JENE: And I am coughing in the vehicle!
(Raucous laughter among the Castaic group)
JENE: (Giggling) Somebody PLEASE repeat that for Paul!
EMMY: I have it here, I think: “Next time you give your attention the opportunity to communicate with Essence, ask yourself….” let me figure out my handwriting here –
ELLEN: Ask yourself why you believed it was so difficult.
EMMY: Indeed, why you are so difficult.
DON: (Further clarifying:) Why it is so difficult — why you have made it so difficult.
MARK: Why you have WANTED it to be so difficult. The next time you are communicating with Essence — ASK WHY you wanted it to be so difficult, for so long.
(Kris pops back in)
KRIS: Now that is a tricky question! (Group laughter) Because you will be tempted to ask Essence: “why YOU make it difficult for ME to communicate with you!” But actually it is the other way around — why YOU make it difficult for Essence to communicate with YOU?
DON: Yes, I’m always ready to blame my Essence for making things difficult for me.
KRIS: Indeed! We know of some individuals who consider this seriously, but the question is why do YOU make it difficult for Essence to communicate with YOU?
DON: Could you give a quick general answer to that, Kris? For all of us?
KRIS: (Loudly and deliberately:) WHAT and WHY are you so afraid to love?
DON: Oh yeah.
MARK: (Humorously) That will open another can of worms.
KRIS: Now then, we leave you to your LOVE-ly selves.
MARK: 9:24
(Session ends at 9:24)
DON: Let’s have the next Dinner and a Dead Guy tomorrow night!
(Group laughter)
RETA: So when is it going to be next?
PAUL: We try to have them every two weeks. So, the 27th would be the next one. In that period of time another transcript will come out and a lot of other stuff will subjectively come through, as you all know from attending these sessions and with Elias and elsewhere, it’s a gift that keeps on giving (chuckling), so there will be a lot more imagery to continue with this.
DON: There’s something just really beautiful about group sessions. I can just feel how it relates to everybody in such a wonderful, deep, yet individual way.
PAUL: Exactly, Don, and that’s why we do it. We’ve been doing this for a year and a half now, about 18 months, and the rhythm is about every two weeks. Sometimes it’s three weeks or four weeks, but Serge and Mark will hold other sessions, too, and now that we have this system (the new phone conference system), you won’t need the Castaic group. It’s a larger collective effort now, it’s an expansion, and tonight is — I’ll use the word “historic” in a sense, in that it’s, you know, seven different locations, having a group session — I don’t think this has been done before, so we’re all a small part of history, doing this, and I think it’s an expansion towards — towards….you know, whatever comes next!
There is general agreement all around, noting that three countries were represented tonight, the USA, Canada and the Netherlands. “Pretty soon we’ll take over the world!” Serge joked. Carter offered his impressions about Kris’ accent and how understandable he found the material and Kris’ delivery. Several people offered that the Kris voice had a different pitch or tonal quality than what they’d previously heard. Denise said that she heard an Irish accent several times in the voice in previous sessions, yet that accent seemed to be gone tonight. Mark agreed that people often hear different accents; many times they hear Kris speaking in the accents of their own country of origin.
Emmy offered that perhaps we all experience the Kris voice in this manner because “everything is ever-changing” and she notices that she will go to another city and take on the accents of the people of that region in an almost unconscious way. Mark said that the Kris, or Brahm, Essence gestalt calls upon different aspects of their being at different times, depending upon the topic under discussion, and that Kris has sometimes refused to speak on certain topics at certain times because it would require a different type of trance state for Serge to go into.
Paul agreed with Mark, pointing out that this is indicative of different aspects of the Brahm Essence coming through and everyone present was probably picking up on those subtle aspects. Denise pointed out that Kris represents a collective entity (Brahm), not an individual, hence Kris always referring to “themselves” in the third person.
(Phone call ends)
After a short bit of chitchat, the conference group said their goodnights and hung up. The Toronto group continued their own discussion, still considering the question that Kris had last challenged us all with. Joshua, a Jesuit Scholastic, offered some thoughts that had caused him to ponder Kris’ words, causing Kris to return again. Joshua’s musings were not caught on tape, so he jotted down these notes for the transcript:
[JOSHUA’S NOTES: When Kris asks us why we make it so difficult for ourselves to communicate with Essence, I wonder how much of that has to do with the busy, noisy interior dialogue that occurs constantly within us. For example, in preparation for the 30-day silent retreat, the Spiritual Exercises of St. Ignatius, which involves five one-hour prayer periods of intense contemplation per day, we had four disposition days of preparation where we slowed down our routine and remained silent throughout the day. Although we were silent on the outside, it took an additional three to four days after beginning the retreat for the noisy interior dialogue to quieten down so that we could reach a state of contemplation…]
(9:40 PM Kris returns to comment)
KRIS: Now, what you described is of interest because it has many implications. For instance, if someone wears sunglasses, it is easy then for that individual to claim that the whole world has dimmed. Someone has a psychological experience, and it is easy for that individual to claim, “This is how it is,” without realizing that that is THEIR experience. It is possible also with practice to integrate, and therefore bring harmony and balance to contradicting inner dialog that produces an oasis of calm and peace. It does not, however, mean that all the inner dialog has died out.
It means that you have managed to bring about an integrated state. The dialog still continues, but you are less aware of it, because it is less in contradiction, each voice with the other. And that is the surface mental dialog that pertains to the ego construction. Now, if you notice, after sufficient days of silence, you will see there is another kind of inner dialog that seems to rise from the depths of the psyche. That inner dialog is a more appropriate bridge with Essence for it begins a deeper contemplation than when all of the inner voices are battling it out for your attention. Do you follow?
JOSHUA: I do, yeah.
KRIS: Another example or analogy is when you are scanning for a radio station on the tuner, and you go back and forth, and back and forth, and you get all these blips, bleeps and bloops — some are loud, some are small and faint — and on and on it goes like inner dialog, but when you find the correct station the others obviously recede into the background for that one to become more prominent, because that is where the tuner is affixed to: that frequency. Do you follow?
JOSHUA: Yes.
KRIS: Similarly, when you arrange your contemplation to tap into that larger area of inner dialog, then pay particular attention. THAT is the state where revelations are made to individuals. Now depending upon the individual’s precarious position with his or her ego, they may translate those inner revelations into the rules for everyone else to follow. This is how religions are set up, whether it is one individual, or a group of individuals who work together to set up a religion. So there are segments that can be lost in the translation, but if you contemplate those inner revelations for what they are, and THEN apply them to your daily life, it will become apparent that you ARE in communion with your Source. And you had an interesting conversation a short time ago with Joseph in the midst of cooking up a storm. Do you remember?
JOSHUA: Yes.
KRIS: Now, the basic premise of the orthodoxy is that no one SHALL come unto the Divine but through the auspices of those who have set themselves up AS the authority OF the Divine. Does that make sense to you? While in truth, there is no need for that third party. The third party has set itself up as THE interpretive voice for the Divine, thereby effectively denying YOUR authority to commune with the Divine, because there is no Divine, per se. There is only Self.
There is physical self, there is non-physical self and that non-physical self has many degrees and stages. That which mankind, or humankind, refers to as God, is its collective interpretation of the highest sense of itself it can attain from the ego structure others invent. There is no being sitting on a cloud, meting out judgments, rewards and punishments. That would automatically create a BIASED deity, and deity is non-biased. Deity loves, period. Does that make sense to you?
JOSHUA: Sure does.
KRIS: Deity is not a dispenser of justice and judgments. Deity is the center of life. Life means Love. Does that also make some sense? Now, far be it from our humble selves to take on orthodoxy! (Group chuckles) But at the same time, orthodoxy has long lost its way. You are fortunate for many reasons. Ignatius set up a system where, in spite of orthodoxy’s meddling, you can still have your communion with the divine, and at the same time, pretend to comply with orthodoxy. (Group laughs)
JOSHUA: Great. You know about the Jesuits!
KRIS: We have had some wonderful friends and acquaintances among the Jesuits, as we now have. All in all, simply know that when you commune with the Divine, you are indeed communing with an interpretation of your own Higher Self. Some people have made it a serious business, others prefer to explore on their own. There are conglomerates, and individual businesses, and we leave you with that sweet thought.
MYRNA: Kris?
KRIS: Indeed?
MYRNA: I found your question about why do we make it so hard for ourselves….I found it harsh. And I found it harsh for exactly what you have just said to Joshua. Somehow we have set up — I have set up — this journey where it has taken me until now to know that it’s all me. So I want to congratulate myself –
KRIS: As you should.
MYRNA: Actually I have tears here — I want to congratulate myself for being here, for taking the risk to be here. So, the question about why do I make it hard on myself — I don’t think I even want to contemplate that, because, again, that feels harsh to me. I did what I did, and in some ways, I don’t think that matters, frankly.
KRIS: You will see that there are always two sides to a question. Each one you have made it difficult for yourself, then the flip side of that question is: how can you now make it easier for you?
MYRNA: Yeah! That feels healthier to me.
KRIS: Indeed. Now the challenge for Shara-Leene is for you to find it easier. How do you make it easier for your communion?
MARK: Interesting, because your question also sort of insinuates that what you were doing before was wrong, and that’s not true either. You were always exactly where you needed to be, where you wanted to be, and where you were. And once we all start accepting that, and stop judging ourselves and what we’ve done and just realizing that we are beautiful in everything we do, joyous when we do that — and even when we create non-joy — it’s all good. We need to start accepting that.
MYRNA: I agree.
KRIS: So therefore, when you hear the words “Be all that you can be!” you will definitely have a different interpretation, one that indeed can be Earth-shattering.
MYRNA: Uh, absolutely. In fact, just sitting here contemplating that gives me goose bumps, as if like — you know — am I up to this task? I….I know I am. (Group laughter) I know I am, but –!
KRIS: Who in their right mind would not be up to making it easier for the Self?
MYRNA: Oh! True. I just think my imagination gets stretched beyond sometimes where I think I can go…when you asked that question about making it easier, I want to throw up my hands and say, I haven’t a clue –! — Other than to go out into nature and commune with nature.
KRIS: Understand how human beings are conditioned. If you live in the middle of the forest, someone makes a road through it and puts stop signs here. You stop, and you look both ways, waiting for the people. If there is no stop sign, you go through and simply continue your journey, correct? So pretend that the road blocks have never been made. And with that we leave you all to DECONSTRUCT your road blocks and stop signs! And have fun in the process!
(Thank you, Kris)
MARK: 9:55
(Session ends at 9:55 PM)
[MARK’S NOTES: This next section of the transcript is just us chatting at the end of the session. Not everyone or everything is audible, but Ellen and I have done our best to piece it together for you.]
MYRNA: I think it would upset a great many in this world if they were to [gravitate to this line of thinking]. What he was suggesting is that there’s no reason for a third party between self and the Divine….and the Divine is US.
MARK: He’s always said that.
JOHN: It’s nice to hear about good old Ignatius.
[MARK’S NOTES: St. Ignatius and his work are what differentiates Jesuit Priests from any other Roman Catholic Priests. St. Ignatius founded the Jesuit order.]
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MARK: (To Joshua) I think that there was an insinuation there that he was a Jesuit or knew some Jesuits. Did you catch that?
JOSHUA: Yeah, I think so.
MARK: I’m not sure if he is referring to a lifetime that he had OR if he is filtering through you because you are a Brahm.
[LIDA makes a comment that is inaudible, but references Kris’ comments regarding the Church acting as a third party access to God and the Divine.]
MARK: Right now, religion is still needed. It serves a purpose and the organized religion as we know it — I think the pendulum is going to swing too far. The experiment’s gone too far.
LIDA: I think that the problem is when … (inaudible).
SERGE: When it no longer becomes nurturing.
LIDA: …when you find you are the Divine, suddenly you don’t need [the Church].
MARK: And that’s the point on that one comment, that you don’t need that third party, but they REQUIRE it, because otherwise they’re defunct — their purpose is not there.
MYRNA: Well their business is gone.
JOSHUA: If the third party can show you that you don’t have to keep going from here to here to get to here [using his hands as he talks], then their job is done. You don’t have to keep going back to the third party.
JOHN: Yeah, well on one level, Kris is a third party. Also I think — I have a different interpretation of that question that you were complaining about earlier, [Myrna]. I think there’s an assumption there — and this has to do with the Church, too — Why do we make it so hard to hear Essence? Well, the assumption we jump to is that there’s a downside: that that’s a shock, so that’s why we make it so hard. I don’t think it’s a shock at all. I think there’s a very good reason why we’ve made it so hard – a positive reason why we’ve made it hard, to our credit. Like religion –
MARK: It’s been part of the experiment.
JOHN: I mean it’s not a shot at it. It’s saying if you understand the reasons why you did this stuff, then you can undo it. Not that it was a bad thing to do, at all! Do you feel that?
MYRNA: I do, yeah.
SERGE: I remember — in the context — when we moved from Montreal to Ottawa, I was eight years old…um…I was almost finished grade two, so I had to finish in Ottawa, and I suddenly developed almost a total dislike for mathematics and it took me many years to understand why. In Quebec, when they teach you math, they don’t care HOW you got the answer, they just want to make sure you got the RIGHT answer. You could use a hundred different methods. The test results are not dependent on HOW they taught you to get the answer, as long as you [do] get the answer.
In Ontario it’s different. In Ontario they don’t CARE that your answer is right, they want to see the process. And it has to be exactly the way the teacher taught you! And what I found out is that there’s a hundred different ways to get the answer — literally! — There are really a hundred different ways to get this answer! In Ontario, in the school system, they teach you the most difficult way to get that one answer. And don’t you DARE go out there and find a different, simpler way to get the answer! And that’s why I became disinterested, because it was difficult.
MARK: Jumping back to third party, the one question that always needs to be asked, is that when you go to the third party, be it Kris, be it a friend, the church, whoever — the one question that needs to be asked is “Who is benefiting by the answer being given?” Is it you, or is it them?
JOHN: Well, hopefully both!
MARK: Hopefully both, BUT – But for instance, I came up with channeling. Channeling and Tarot and New Age stuff — you can go out to someone on the street corner and actually get something that’s valid for you, or you can speak to someone like Kris or Elias… I love the example at that Psychic Fair, all the women that went to see this one psychic were told they were Joan of Arc. Every single one of them! (Group laughter) They want your business, your repeat business. They tell you what you want to hear so you’ll keep coming back. But, if it’s benefiting YOU, if you’re actually getting something out of it, then it’s cool.
JOHN: Yes. Exactly! (Humorously) Well, I don’t see how we could have much more fun tonight!
SERGE: I know! Let’s eat!
(Group laughter) [Serge is poking fun here at the Castaic group who had talked about what they were going to have for dinner after they signed off, while we East Coasters' were ready for bed!]

