Sacred Gatherings

October 31, 2005

Kris Chronicles
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Ellen Gilbert (Kwaa’Ji)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on October 31, 2005
Copyright 2005 Avion Rising, Inc.

Roll call: In Toronto: Serge (Joseph), Mark (Philip), John (Soharse), Myrna (Shara-Leene), Lida (Miriam)

In Oregon: Norm (Ambrose) and Reta (Leihuu)

In Castaic: Paul (Janaki), Jo (Rosalie) and Ester (Benata)

[A new type of phone conference call connection was tried for this session through Freeconference.com that allows the participation of up to 100 people. All the New World View moderators gave it a trial run the evening before and we gave it a thumbs up for going ahead with. Kris popped in for a few minutes and commented upon our experimentation with our new "gizmos" ~ Ellen]

[MARK’S NOTES: This session was recorded on December 31st, a.k.a. Halloween or “The Day of the Dead” in Mexico.]

(Session begins at 7:52 PM)

KRIS: We trust that you are comfortable, and at the same time we are glad that you have all graduated from “Gizmology 101″.

(Group laughter)

Indeed this day is celebrated in many different fashions in North America and in some parts of Europe. Many other countries and cultures have their variations, and all of these celebrations have far more to do with your human nature than you might suspect; and know it is not about a commercial venture, though for some people the commercial aspect often hides any other representations of this day. If there is indeed one thing that is even more than the common denominator in the human experience, what would you say it is?

JO: We are born and we die.

JOHN: Love.

KRIS: Our answer to that is: People. You do not necessarily have a human experience without other human beings and over and above that is the experience of people coming together and sharing. That is the one thing that is common to all of the ancient cultures and only in your present culture is the coming together of people sometimes seen as a threat. When people come together it is not only about checking out who’s wearing the latest fashion, who got pregnant by who, and so on and so forth;, even though these may end up being part of that experience.

It is the simple act of people gathering — gathering together to share of themselves and people have been doing this since the very inception of people — before politics even! Even before there was a human expression in the physical term, beings have been coming together, literally before anything you knew. The very act of groups of people – gathering, sharing represents what is already done in the dream states. And in the dream states many of you have experienced large, or not so large, groupings of people sharing common experiences. Not everyone recalls those specific dreams, because they occur in an almost specialized section of the dream realm or dimension meant for the exchange of information, knowledge, wisdom and energy.

And if you look towards your dreams, you may notice that you have, occasionally or periodically or frequently, those unique dreams where you find yourselves in an environment that resembles a hall, an auditorium, an arena of some kind. It could even be a classroom as a memory pulled from your more youthful days, or any other environment where several to many people come together.

And you may know some of these people in physical reality; you may know some of these people only from those unique dream experiences. In those gatherings you all come together not only for the learning, but also to exchange your views, your knowledge, your impressions, but much more so than when you get together at the physical level. At those inner stages, you exchange very little about a rainy day or the weather, and much more so about how specific states of mind generate very particular psychological atmospheres, often to assist other individuals — as much as you yourselves are there to receive similar types of information from the experiments and experiences of other individuals for you — to make decisions about some of the paths you MAY decide to experiment with in your life if you deem those experiences worth pursuing in line with your own personal values and judgments, in line with your convictions.

And an exploration of those types of dream experiences would GREATLY enhance your abilities towards inner communications as they would be remembered within your conscious perceptions. And since the very beginning of human beings, those inner gathering places have been translated and transposed upon the fabric of units of consciousness to create gathering places for people to come together and share. And some of the people that you see in those gatherings at the physical reality level may also be found in some of your gathering dreams, some will simply never be part of the physical reality expression of those dream sharings because some of those individuals have no need for a physical form at this point in time and they are quite content to participate strictly at the dream levels.

And all of the ancient cultures on your world have had representations of those sacred gathering places and gathering rituals, many of which have been lost through time, but we believe that — as we have suggested before — bringing back some of these ancient gathering rituals would greatly benefit all of the participants, even if only for the purpose of re-awakening those echoes of ancient sacred gathering places and the people who gathered there making such places sacred in the first place. Does that make sense?

(Yes)

People are so paramount to your human journey, that if there were no people, you would invent them there, because the human image not only represents yourself, but is also you in the other. And in those gathering moods — where sacred sagebrush or incense or other scents were released into the air to induce the olfactory senses; images often available, whether in ancient cave walls or more modern gathering places where there are images of the saintly –always the mood is meant for a peaceful transition into another stage of life through the experiences that you share with other human beings.

And since human beings are creative, even genius, at inventing rituals, you all have the opportunity to look back either in ancient histories — or simply call upon those ancient aspects of your own Essence — to share with you how you can put together a ritual that celebrates the human experience and the transitions that come along with the human experience from one stage to another. The sharing of human experiences with others is so important that you will notice when an occupying force or regime or dictatorship sets itself up, what is one of the first things that is usually forbidden, banned, even unto penalty of death?

MARK: Gatherings.

NORM: Public assembly.

KRIS: Indeed! Not necessarily because in public assemblies and gatherings, people may talk a rebellious talk, but because people feel security in groups, because there is a SHARING that occurs. That common human element automatically brings a strength, automatically opens the Self, automatically puts the individuals who come together into an altered state. And this is very important that you examine this! We believe it is said in the New Testament that when even only two or three are gathered, the Spirit will be present. In other words, if gatherings are undertaken for the purpose of communion with inner self, or Essence, then indeed its presence will indeed be felt and you all who come together in different times and places can experiment utilizing not only your physical, but your inner senses to detect the gathered presence of Essence. Does that make sense?

MARK: Yes, wonderful.

JOHN: (To Myrna:) You and I do that Myrna.

MYRNA: Mmhm.

KRIS: This is why, when groups come together with a clever, creative public speaker, that public speaker can induce amazing results in the audience. One of the most phenomenal in your recent memories of an individual commanding the attention of enormous crowds with tremendous results and impact is Adolf Hitler.

(Affirmative murmurings)

That was one of his abilities — to draw the attention unto his propaganda with a large audience that was WILLING to have their attention drawn in such a manner. Now imagine a public speaker with similar ability — but for a different purpose — can make an extremely powerful impact upon your present day civilization because the coming together of a few, to hundreds, to thousands of people is so much part of your heritage that you could say it is stitched into the very fabric of your psyches, because people come together naturally. There are always some exceptions to this, but for the most part, people gravitate towards people.

That is why as human beings, one of your creative geniuses is to build civilizations. You do this innately, as the bees create hives, and as the beavers build dams. Human beings create civilizations as an expression of the civilizations of the Self. You cannot not be drawn in one way or another to this because you yourselves are composite beings, you are made of many selves, literally. So it is natural for you human beings to be drawn towards human beings and when sufficient numbers of you get together and history begins to be recorded by your groups, then entire civilizations are created to express that group’s journey through time and space.

This is also why one of the most precious of all gifts that you give to yourselves is not cars, houses, jewelry or any modern accoutrement; it is the gifts of friendships, of relationships. You are not able to avoid relationships of one kind or another with other human beings. You can have hate relationships, loving relationships, even hate-love relationships, but you will always have relationships of one kind or another. Through relationships you come into the world, so important are they. So great is that gift of relationships. So it is in your own best interest to cultivate your relationships and to honor yourself as the most important relationship you can possibly have. Your relationship with yourself and the other relationships are actually dependent upon that relationship you have with yourselves. Does that make sense?

JOHN: Perfectly.

NORM.: Very much so.

(Static begins to appear on the line)

KRIS: Is California still on the line?

(California speaks but is covered over with static)

MARK: Can’t hear you because of the static. Try again.

PAUL: You hear static?

MARK: Yeah, when you talk. Say something Paul.

PAUL: (Very crackly noise along with his words:) Are we coming through?

MARK: I can hear you, but I’m still getting static…

PAUL: Now you guys are cutting out.

[Norm and Reta try to speak, but the static is even worse. Norm's words are completely unintelligible. Toronto is heard more clearly by the other parties, but sound continues to degrade from the other ends. Mark decides that as long as the others can hear Toronto and Kris' words that they will continue. Kris begins again, but static continues to be heard even from any kind of sound coming through, not just voices.]

KRIS: Indeed, as you can see, your human experiences are far more important than you have judged them to be…. Would it be more advantageous if the other two parties called back?

MARK: Paul?

PAUL: (Through the static:) You want to try and reconnect?

MARK: Yeah.

PAUL: OK, be right back.

(California disconnects. Norm and Reta in Oregon stay on the line, and their connection seems improved. Break is taken at 8:24 PM)

(Reconnection is made with California, but static is still terrible. Mark and Serge try reconnecting this time and the results are much better. Static disappears completely.)

MYRNA: Okay, so we got static when he talked about — well he was talking about relationship for awhile, right?

PAUL: Right.

MYRNA: So, if we move this out of the literal –

JOHN: (Chuckling) It was when he said that our relationships with ourself –

MYRNA: Oh! That’s right. It started to get staticky when he mentioned that our most important relationship is with ourselves, and it then determines a relationship with all others…..so, I wonder what we all did with that! (Laughter)

Paul mentions that Elias has verified that sort of information for years, that interpersonal and intrapersonal relationships will have that effect.

(Break ends at 8:28)

KRIS: Indeed, you are correct upon that observation that most of you usually have static on the lines of self-communication.

JOHN: There you go.

KRIS: You still, however, manage to do a pretty good job of it all, in spite of your fears and hesitations, many of which are unfounded. For the most part, your relationships with Self are beautifully mirrored in your relationships with others, because the other is you. And we believe this beautifully weaves together the concept that you are the other, as well as the other is you. Therefore, the very nature of get-togethers, of gatherings, is itself a very sacred function because it mirrors that very sacred relationship that you have with yourself.

Even when at your very best, you despise your own self, you feel that self is nothing but shame and guilt and iniquity. You often feel those states simply because you feel that you are unable to appreciate who you are and what you are and therefore reflect that in the relationships you hold with others. Renewing that gathering with Self can have a tremendous impact upon your own well-being and the state of your wellness, both physically and psychologically. If you are of the conviction that Self is to be feared, is not to be trusted, is somehow or other flawed, how will your relationships with others be mirrored, but with the same dark glass? Does that make sense?

(Yes)

However, if you nurture that relationship with Self, if you adorn Self with garlands of appreciation and bouquets of praise for a well-created adventure, if you respect the integrity of your own being, then indeed, that relationship will be reflected in the other. Again, we are not out to make sense — that is best left to other organizations. (Group laughter) They have their own quotas to meet, but what we are addressing is the need to return to that ancient ritual, the gathering of Self. And when several people come together with a similar intent, then indeed, Self, [of] Essence can be detected, and the very perceptions that you hold onto can, through the auspices of such a gathering, be transformed. The renewal of that sacred sense, that mood of the Divine, can indeed be made real.

You are, of course, not obliged in any way, shape or form, but if you did consider the possibility for a few moments each day, you gather to your awareness, to your mindfulness, those very ancient aspects of your self as well as those very future aspects of self, and those very present aspects of self together in the very same room of your consciousness, then you can enjoy the life-giving energies that come from celebrating the gathering of Self, the gathering of ancients and futures, under the umbrella of the present and honor the great gift of relationships as indeed a treasure not to be hoarded, but to be shared. The secret is in the honoring of your own Presence. With that we will take a non-static break!

(Break at 8:38 PM)

Norm tells of an article in a recent National Geographic magazine about Stonehenge, in England. Mark adds that Kris has mentioned at another time that throughout our history our “inner” meetings have been expressed outwardly in meeting areas such as Stonehenge. Also he adds that it’s interesting that only in the modern world have public meetings been considered negative, yet in the past were considered sacred. Paul mentions the gatherings that he used to attend when he worked in a science museum in Philadelphia were always missing exactly what Kris had addressed, the recognition that within the gathering, a sacred connection with Essence self was available, but never taken beyond the rational, materialistic modern worldview.

(8:41 session resumes)

[MARK’S NOTES: Paul was talking during break when Kris came back. Kris allowed Paul to finish before commenting.]

PAUL: People that read this transcript may think “Oh, that’s a throwback to pre-modern religious ritual” but what it’s doing is taking the best practices and gems that have been discarded by modernity and to re-animate them — that’s what I hear Kris talking about, in terms of making it a POST-modern ritual or honoring so it can include the scientific, etc. but also then gathering sacred spaces, the gathering in sacred space is completely optional to scientists’ laboratories, except for someone like William Tiller and leading edge post-moderns who are beginning to realize the importance of bringing that back into their methods. (Kris breaks in)

KRIS: In many of those so-called superstitious, primitive cultures, the greatest of all the gifts to be shared and passed on at those community or communal gatherings is the wisdom of the elders. In your modern world, the elderly are often shunned and shoved into group homes where they are only permitted to come together with their own kind and only to play cribbage, backgammon, to eat, and to take pills — oh, yes — and to sing along with the piano lady! (Group laughter) And that is a terrible waste as far as your culture is concerned. In that respect, we say — even though some may think we are being mean-spirited, critical, and judgmental — we say SHAME on your culture!

If young people were allowed to come together with the elderly, indeed your modern crisis of youth violence would likely be defused to a great degree. The young have nothing to look forward to than to be shoved into that home where grandma and grandpa are drugged. Why should they not rebel and fight the machine, correct?

JOHN: Absolutely!

KRIS: If, however, they were entrained to become wise themselves, they would not have so much idle time to break cars and graffiti buildings. They would be busy becoming wise and caring for those who are passing on their wisdom, instead of simply caring for those who are passing on. Does that make sense?

(Yes)

That gap, if it were bridged, would transform your culture overnight. Indeed then, that is one challenge we put to you by the collective. Do not shun your elders and do not be too quick to read the Will, but instead be quicker to absorb their wisdom. Let them see that you deserve the wisdom to be passed on to you. Is that an interesting challenge? Not only to you who hear this, but to you who will read this session. Are there questions?

JO: This is Rosalie. I had a dream recently about…I think it was a church in the future, and possibly a probable future focus of mine…. and in it was a large meeting room, like a small amphitheatre which sat hundreds of people. There was — I wouldn’t call it an alter — but there was a center, or a focal point with a lectern for example and in between the audience and the focal point were children. The children were in front of everyone and I noticed the significance, because most of the time at these gatherings we put the children in the back of the church, and if they start crying we take them out, but here everyone kept an eye on them and they took their rightful place in a sacred space. And I was just wondering, Kris, if this was a future probable focus or a future probability for my focus now.

KRIS: We believe that the dream contains far more information than what you have so far deciphered. It may represent other very significant details up to and including your impression, but even far more…….that youthful aspects of Self are being nurtured by those aspects that are wiser, in one sense. And this is the gist of our presentation. It is not only that the elder in your communities can impart wisdom and that youths can themselves can look forward to becoming wise, but that there is an act of nurturing here.

And that action of nurturing, if not present in the society, actually creates a schizophrenic development in the social structure. It means that entire portions of Self are being neglected in your culture. Your own growing older at the stage where your nurturing capabilities are at their peak are denied. The possibility is being contemplated that as you become older, you become less and less of use to your society and you have to be put in storage until you can simply leave, with nothing to look forward to but the piano lady on Thursday nights. Do you understand what we are driving at?

(Yes)

Janaki, what do you see?

PAUL: I just wanted to comment that recently, in my thinking, the word “legacy” has been there in terms of what I and Joanne leave behind as to what we contribute to others, and so I’m fascinated to hear this direction you’re taking tonight. Commenting on that part of the modern worldview, about warehouses for the old that sees their productivity only in terms of dollar signs as an effective consumer for the economy, and once it can no longer make money for the consumer economy it is warehoused, and –

KRIS: Indeed, many of your homes for the aged are little more than morgues.

PAUL.: And your point about youth growing up and saying “this is what I have to look forward to,” of course they’re going to raise hell when they’re going through that teen period of transition into adulthood and it makes it even more difficult so I feel with them, as you’re pointing out, that if somehow the transition is made by adults towards the wisdom of society that is a post-modern worldview, in my definition, that translates its wisdom to the young, and as you’re saying, as we get older, into our 40′s, 50′s, and 60′s and older, that we’re actually mentoring, and helping — and a lot of people actually do this, it’s not that this doesn’t occur — but it’s just on such a scale…you know you’re supposed to get your job and then retire and play golf and listen to the piano lady on Thursday nights.

KRIS: Indeed, and your modern sciences are claiming that very soon they will be, thanks to medical drugs be able to extend life to 150 years. That will only lead to a mass exodus. Who wants to be in the old age home for 60 years?

JO: Well they’ll still find ways for us to be productive longer in the process and be more…

PAUL: Who says? Who are they?

JO: Well, the people who are coming up with these plans, you know, I mean it’s all about people contributing to the bottom line and the gross national product, but also being consumers — and even teens, children – are trained to be consumers more than anything –more than they are wise, intelligent people.

KRIS: And indeed if you look carefully at your statement, it would imply that scientists will make it possible for people to live to 150 years because they can make them consume far more medications during those years!

(Group laughter and agreement)

MARK: Going back to the Day of the Dead and Halloween, what we’re talking about is an original ceremony honoring and respecting generations past and the elders… [Myrna interrupts.]

MYRNA: And particularly the crones. This is a time of year that — whether it’s my ancient feminism streak, or it’s my own moving into my own crone years — I’m really wanting to claim the wisdom of the witch. I do have some optimism, Kris that many of the youth “get” this. A couple of years ago I belonged to an institute for contemporary shamanic studies and I could not believe the hordes of young people attracted to that institute and continued to be, because of that wisdom.

KRIS: Indeed, many youths are attracted to these practices for what they think might give them an edge, an ability, a power without realizing that in truth, they are drawn to their own innate wisdom, and a means to cultivate that wisdom. This was the prized function of all native — not only native American, but all native cultures around the world — that gathering for the youths to listen to the stories, to listen to the parables, to be part of the process of creating their society then and there, at that moment. That is the element that is missing from your present civilization.

MARK: You talked about the change when we took on the experiment of the written word — books, newspapers — and often those stories, and the story telling, faded into the background in favor of personal reading of the stories, and picking and choosing, but in a way it’s hindered those stories and the telling of the stories. It set us back.

KRIS: It has given a NEW possibility for transmitting knowledge, but instead, often as happens, it becomes a tool for transmitting information. There is a difference, and very often information is simply there to fill the airwaves, so to speak, to spend commercial time. Much of the information you gather on a daily basis simply keeps you busy at the conscious level and you may then tend to forget that there is a deeper layer of knowledge, of authentic information, that is simmering underneath the surface that will eventually need an outlet. Ancient cultures provided that outlet with the gatherings of the entire tribe, of the entire people and the elder were expected to do their elderly thing. That was their “groove,” just as the youth were expected to listen. That was THEIR groove! And together you are all grooving! Do you follow?

JOHN: Groovy! (Group laughter)

KRIS: It is HOW you utilize and pass on your wisdom. And indeed the image of the wise old woman who was so defamed during the Inquisition years simply because she was in a position of nurturing. In your culture, the one who nurtures is often suspect. These are echoes of those days when the old crone, if not watched carefully, could cast the evil eye and make your cows stop giving milk, all pure nonsense, to get her property and her OUT.

MYRNA: Kris?

KRIS: Indeed?

MYRNA: You described gatherings before and I have had a recurring dream over the years. I used to teach high school and in my dream — oh, I used to also do a lot of training and development — in my dream I am always at the front and I have usually adults in front of me and I am trying to impart… I think my love, as well as my knowledge, because I do feel myself to be very loving….and always in my dream I have this audience — um, it’s chaos, people aren’t listening — and by the way I can take this back in and I know it’s aspects of myself — but it’s like I just get destroyed up there and I’m wondering what I need to do for myself to open myself up to this part, to get rid of those parts of myself.

KRIS: Indeed, and you have the answer, both in your mind and in your fingers: WRITE. Write a book about the inner crone. Write stories — ancient stories, future stories, eternal stories –about the crone, which represents the eternal Mother — that mothering, nurturing aspect of both individual and collective Essence. In some places you sit by the fire and you tell the children the stories about the turtle and the rabbit and the fox and the eagle and the bear. Write those stories again! Let them speak in your mind and write them down!

MYRNA: (Laughing in utter astonishment)

KRIS: It matters not if none of those writings see the light of day beyond your home. That is not the point. The point is to put it down. Do you follow?

MYRNA: Uh…if I could get rid of my shock — by what you’re saying! Me, write?! ? (Background laughter, especially from John, a delighted recognition) Okay! — (laughing) — I’ll read this transcript –

KRIS: You can talk, you can write –

MYRNA: I can talk –

KRIS: Indeed!

MYRNA: — but write?!?

MARK: Just write the words that you’re speaking.

JOHN: You know I think what he says — let the turtle talk to you and then write down what it says. It’s lovely! It will manifest! You watch.

MYRNA: Well, that I can do.

KRIS: Look at how the ancient aborigines tell their stories. They say it in the first person and in the second person and then in the third person, all accessing different states of trance in the audience. There is an art to telling stories beyond making the audience laugh. Notice how the elder will tell the story of turtle, or a crow, or a fox. The elder becomes the turtle. Does that not sound familiar?

MYRNA: Very.

KRIS: Indeed. That is an ancient form of communication. That is how knowledge is passed, how wisdom is passed on, through allegory and story-telling. Now what is the time?

MARK: 9:06.

KRIS: Indeed. We suggest a small break.

(Break begins at 9:06 PM.)

JOHN: (Laughing) I think it’s fabulous! You’re always talking about grandmother, just BE the grandmother, be the turtle — do it! It’ll be fun.

MYRNA: Those are my three totems he mentioned.

JOHN: Hm? Which ones? The crow?

MYRNA: Turtle, crow and fox.

JOHN: Ah! No accidents there!

Serge asks how the others are doing in California and Oregon. Jo jokes that she’s getting in touch with her own inner crone. Norm and Reta speak about teenagers in the world today, and their hopes that our children are believing in what the older generation do. The sound quality is poor for my transcription efforts, I can’t make out all that he and Reta are saying. Norm’s voice sounds like it is traveling through water. Serge asks if he is too close to his phone and Norm says he is indeed leaning over it, an old habit he finds hard to break, but he is gratified that the quality of the connection on his end is far superior this night than what he has previously dealt with. Mark mentions that he cherishes times spent with his grandmother when he was a child. A bit of chitchat ensues, then Myrna brings it back around to the topic.

MYRNA: I love the community we’ve formed here around Kris. Community means so much to me, and I’ve moved in and out of communities over the years, but I’ve been really missing…..because I find my ground in the community. At least this feels like somewhat of an intentional community, you know, because we’re here and we are focused on Kris, but it’s learning about Self, and I’m very grateful for this.

PAUL: I made that connection with the whole Dinner & A Dead Guy concept, it really is a type of community where we gather, we share food, and we really do connect with that and we feel it for 36 hours afterwards and it’s a wonderful recharging, reconnection and renewal and it’s exactly what he was describing. If you go through tonight’s session and do a checklist what we feel here — and I’m assuming it’s the same in Oregon and also Toronto — there’s that same sense of community that’s being fulfilled through this. So I find that fascinating and really fulfilling, and we really enjoy it. And it’s something that’s missing, that Boomers are hungry for, and the kids that are coming up, Gen-X, Gen-Y, that’s what they are hungry for, some kind of community and spiritual connection. And the Integral movement is one answer –

SERGE: Paul?

PAUL: Yeah?

SERGE: On November 7, in the evening, we’ve been invited to give a talk, do some channeling to a group of homeless gay kids.

(General responses of surprise and delight)

MARK: And you wouldn’t believe this, the conversations are focused around, quote unquote, “Essence.”

(Surprised comments)

SERGE: That’s the name of the group — it’s called “Essence.”

PAUL: These are kids that have been disowned by their parents?

MARK: Yes, or have disowned their parents and are on the streets and they’re going through these communities as these programs, and this one program is called Essence, and THEY actually contacted US!

(Laughter and comments of “How great!”)

(Kris returns at 9:18 PM)

KRIS: Now are there other questions on this most interesting matter?

ESTER: I have a comment, actually a question — it seems the elders also need to (Ester’s question becomes garbled, but the gist is that the elders of today often seem to regress and become more childlike and dependent themselves, so the concern is, who would listen to them if they have no wisdom to impart?)

PAUL: They don’t take on that role [of wise elder].

ESTER: Exactly. Right, it’s like a whole….

PAUL: Lost generation.

KRIS: Indeed, because they have had no training. Many modern elderly have no idea that this is potentially a role they can fulfill, because they have all their lives been told that at a certain point in time, they will be shoved into a home, nearly forgotten and all they can pass on — their only legacy — will be their will, testament and estate, if they have one to give. There is often very little joy in such a situation, very little to look forward to. Now if your elderly had themselves been trained to take on the role of passing on the wisdom to make a new culture, then indeed they would have far more to look forward to and they would likely be less ill as something to do to pass the time — to be ill. Do you follow?

ESTER: Yes.

KRIS: It is not much of an existence to look forward to your outing because it takes you to the doctor’s office. So much can be accomplished in this area. You simply need to see the validity of this so that gradually you can entrain a generation of people that will renew such ancient cycles but in a new fashion, rekindle a truly ancient method of renewing the culture from one age to another. And you will find that the elderly who practice this, and youths who look forward to this, sometimes have very little differences between them. The elderly often do not look nor even act elderly because their vitality is seen as VITAL, therefore it is expected of them to continue their vitality. Does that make sense?

(Yes)

Their vibrancy becomes indeed a cherished thing! It is their nurturing quality that they keep alive because they realize they are needed. And it is one thing your species needs to explore more: the need to be needed in its highest, most sacred sense. Not in its pathological sense, but in its divine sense. Does that make sense as well?

JOHN: Yes, that’s interesting. The need to be needed.

MYRNA: Kris, may I?

KRIS: Indeed. Now is this turtle or crow? (Group laughter)

MYRNA: Ummmm…none of them –

KRIS: Indeed.

MYRNA: It’s actually the part of me that feels very crippled right now. I understand from a higher place the need to be needed and I have been struggling with exactly that. And I can’t find right now a place for myself that satisfies that need. And I don’t mean from a pathological place…but I…I have a lot to offer, and I can’t find the right vehicle for it, for me.

KRIS: Indeed. And where are you looking?

MYRNA: (Pause) Well, I had been looking at the world of work.

KRIS: If you had to invent how your need to be needed were to be met, how would you go about it? And you do not need to answer now.

MYRNA: I have the answer, actually. I will create some sort of center — a gathering place — where I bring people of wisdom, including myself.

KRIS: Now is that a challenge YOU launched yourself?

MYRNA: (Becoming emotional) Ohhh, I don’t know what to do with it…

MARK: I think you do.

KRIS: Indeed, we second that motion. What YOU need is a little bit of self confidence in that area.

MYRNA: Oh, I sure do!

KRIS: But once you dip your toe into that ocean, you will find it warm and inviting. It wants more than your toe. It is as hungry as a shark. FEED IT.

MYRNA: Okay.

KRIS: Indeed then are there other questions?

JO: I’d just like to add that, Myrna, I’m feeling the same impulses, so maybe we should talk.

MYRNA: Oh, I’d love to. I’d LOVE to. I have been gathering around me — attracting around me for years — artists who are also healers. And I have such a dream to do something, Jo, so I’d love to talk.

KRIS: Look back to your dream that you described.

MARK: The school, your audience.

KRIS: Indeed then. What is the time?

MARK: 9:27.

KRIS: Then we will take leave of your LOVELY selves, old and young, and may you always keep in mind that you are a civilization of selves. How you manage that civilization and NURTURE it is up to you. And may you have wondrous dreams of many kinds to fill your days and nights. And we return Joseph to you now.

ALL: Thank very much, Kris!

(Session ends at 9:28 PM.)

Jon from New York State

October 24, 2005

Kris Chronicles
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Ellen Gilbert (Kwaa’Ji)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on October 24, 2005
Copyright 2005 Avion Rising, Inc.

Roll call: Serge (Joseph) and Jon (Reginald)

(Session begins)

KRIS: Now, do not forget the gizmo.

JON: I just pushed it. It’s on. It says its recording.

KRIS: Then that is excellent. Philip (Mark) will be satisfied and you will have a recording. Now, it is indeed a pleasure to meet you and we thank you for your many considerations.

JON: Thank you for talking to me.

KRIS: Indeed and we trust that you have put the butterflies to rest.

JON: They’re still fluttering a bit, but that’s okay.

KRIS: We understand that you have some questions and that you have been pondering them, so please feel free to release those questions so they can migrate and transform themselves into answers.

JON: Can we start out with my Essence name and the six-pack, or twelve-pack, or whatever you want to make it?

KRIS: Indeed. We would intone an Essence name as “Reginald.”

JON: Reginald? Can you spell that?

KRIS: R-E-G-I-N-A-L-D. Reginald. Nothing already exotic in that sense of the word, we usually prefer to intone an Essence name in a manner that resonates with deep Self memories of another focus time where the focus personality exuberated in adventures that left a deep impression upon the entire Self. Whether these are recalled or not is irrelevant to the conscious mind, but allowing your own attention to focus upon the name, the sound of the name and the imagery that may come up from such a concentration may trigger imagery relevant to another focus experience that you may explore at your leisure.

JON: So was Reginald a “haughty” prince?

KRIS: We do not know if he was a “hottie,” but we believe that there is a link to an ancient French monarchy related to the focus known as Charlemagne.

JON: Okay. Hmm.

KRIS: As for families of intent for Essence, the belonging to – which are root intents – in primary position is actually a combination. We would intone as Zulimet, a combination of characteristics pertaining to Zuli and Milumet intent family. Secondary would be Sumafi, and tertiary would be Ilda. The alignments pertaining to the focus expression: in primary position Gramada, secondary Sumari, and tertiary (long pause) Ilda.

By revising the characteristics of these various families it may assist you in examining the greater spectrum of the intents that one way or another you are expressing throughout the journey of this lifetime. And not all of these aspects of intent may necessarily be prominent at any one time, but may indeed recede to the background depending upon the larger focus of your journey, the one that is more prominent at a given time, until you switch again to another specific focus upon your journey. Does that make sense to you?

JON: Yes, thanks.

KRIS: Underlying your own interests in technology, sciences in the perspectives you wish to develop with this lifetime, there is indeed a deep river of inquisitiveness almost as powerful as the salmon’s urge to return to the stream of its birth, so is your interest in exploring not only what is found within physical reality, not only reality itself, but also the very premises that enable reality to be what it is. Whether you realize the depth of those intents, still you have at your disposal a depth of curiosity that goes way beyond merely examining the surface. Do you follow?

JON: I think so.

KRIS: In so many other words, physical reality and the entire spectrum of the expressions of reality is something that fascinates you much more deeply than you allow yourself to think about. There is almost like a hunger within you and as time unfolds, so you will find ways to nourish that hunger. You have already determined to a certain degree that what you see with your physical senses, your eyes, what you hear, what you sense, what you touch, what you taste, these are at the surface layer of reality. Underneath that camouflage, are other aspects of reality that also have captured your attention. Does that make sense?

JON: Yes.

KRIS: Do allow yourself to explore what reality is beneath the surface of the sensory perceptions. You will find much satisfaction in those explorations, even if those explorations themselves are not necessarily mainstream, but on the fringe. Do you follow?

JON: Yes.

KRIS: Indeed. Please feel free to ask.

JON: Okay. Do you have any advice how I might — I don’t know — start to get into experimenting with that, or — I’ve been sort of interested in some of these devices you’ve talked about in the Egyptian battery devices for altering the density of matter or the electromagnetic rail device. Is there something that I might start working on that might allow me to experiment with these aspects of reality that we aren’t really using or know about yet?

KRIS: Indeed, but it must be understood that this is not something that can be explained in 15 minutes or less. This is something that needs to be studied and evaluated and made practical. And a large portion of this is introspective states — exploring subjective states. In other words, entering altered states of perception, and freeing your own consciousness in such a manner that it may explore for you and send you signals as to its results, much like a probe would send back signals. Correct?

JON: Okay.

KRIS: In this manner, you may be able to detect other states of perceptions that can enable you to bring back information, perhaps even designs of technologies that can help or be of assistance towards altering, modifying and even enhancing the reality that you are normally focused on. This is a long term practice with sufficient time to play as well. For indeed, if you work all the time, then you become less fun!

JON: Yeah.

KRIS: So you need play time as well, but it is possible to train your own consciousness to explore other probabilities in such a manner as to bring back information in the form of imagery, design, details, concepts that can find practical use in this reality. We are presently engaged with such a set of sessions for an individual who is interested in the very same type of phenomenon you have inquired about. And definitely it is possible to make explorations in such realities and bring back details, some of which may function, others which may not, but there will always be modifications and applications to use such designs. Does that make sense to you?

JON: Yes.

KRIS: It does require that you develop at least a preliminary working premise for the Triple ‘A’. Do you know what this stands for?

JON: Yeah, Acknowledge, Address and Accept.

KRIS: Indeed, that allows a free flow of information as feedback from your travels in consciousness permitting yourself then to recall, capture and work with that information in such a manner that you can make practical designs that can be tested out in this reality.

JON: When you said about the Triple ‘A’, you mean a working premise for –

KRIS: Understanding the workings of the Triple ‘A.’

JON: Okay.

KRIS: Very simply put, if you do not train your own conscious mind to actually accept delivery of alternate currents of information, then every time information does come, it will be censored.

JON: Right, I’ll be (inaudible) –

KRIS: Indeed, if not outright disbelief with such notions as “This is impossible.”

JON: Okay, then as a first step then you would suggest, um…

KRIS: As a very, very first step we strongly encourage dream recall which involves keeping a record, and not necessarily being militant about it but being diligent that when you have dream material, upon awakening let it be recorded, whether by a voice recorder or by pen and paper, and then transferred to the computer.

JON: Okay.

KRIS: That will provide you with a very solid foundation for exploring altered states. It is THOSE various altered states that enable you to open psychological doorways into other areas of reality that may indeed have had a parallel development with your world, but have pursued other developments.

JON: So, writing these dreams down — is the benefit of that in the interpretation of them, or in just getting my ego consciousness into that reality by the active remembering of it…..uh.. Once I record my dreams, do I do anything with them after that, or do I just kind of review them?

KRIS: For the early stages it may be hard enough work simply to record them. Once you are accustomed to the free flow of exchange of imagery and symbols in your dreams, and once you have had several months, you may go back to the early records of your dreams and you may very likely notice that — first of all you may not even record any of those dreams — secondly, information may be added that you did not catch at the onset. Secondly again, reviewing those older dreams will bring about the establishment of a pattern such as specific types of dreams occur on specific evenings and within those specific types of dreams there is a kind of order, whereas those types of dreams usually occur in the early part, middle or very late sleep states. Do you follow?

JON: Yes..

KRIS: By examining at least those preliminary stages, you set up a recognition of how your dreams work for you, what types of dreams bring what types of information, what kind of dreams bring what kind of imagery, do most of the first dreams on Monday night bring about a pattern, the second on Tuesday nights, or the first on Tuesday nights, or the third on Wednesday night.

JON: Do they really go by patterns or cycles of weekdays?

KRIS: Specific nights will bring about specific orders of dreams, and this is done obviously because of the order of your recall. You will write in your dream diary that this is Monday night, the 22nd or the 23rd of October, 2005 and you make preparations for dream number one, dream number two, dream number three, and so on. If you only have a portion of one dream, do not discount it, write it down. You may find it a surprise that in the writing down process, OTHER memories come to the surface concerning that dream. Do you follow?

JON: Yes.

KRIS: The second night, the third night of any given day will each have their own flavor. This allows you to be far more familiar with elements that appear in many dreams over the course of a period of time. This can also enable you to recognize that specific types of dreams that in retrospect have proven to be precognitive may save you much aggravation when you know that the second dream of the third night, or the third dream of the fourth night — usually those dreams carry precognitive elements. Does that make sense to you?

JON: Yeah, I’m just a little confused why the third night or fourth night — I’m just wondering why it’s cyclical on a seven day schedule versus –

KRIS: Indeed, neurological processes on nights occur in cycles. If you observe your sleep patterns, you proceed in cycles. Now, that is how instrumentation recognizes the dream patterns. You, however, are involved in dreams whether you see it or not and the manner in which you recall them is important and should be inspected.

JON: You mean, in the order in which I remember them or in the order in which it seems they occur? It seems like oftentimes I will remember the last dream I have just dreamed, and then as I write it down, I start remembering earlier and earlier dreams.

KRIS: Indeed, and you probably note that you have a fair sense that you dreamt one specific dream before that one, and so on and so forth. So they will be catalogued, involving different portions of the brain and perceptive mechanisms, different brain wave patterns. Such exercises can indeed prove most rewarding over a period of time, giving you insights into your own psychology in ways you may not otherwise be able to fathom. It will also indicate to you what to watch out for in future dream escapades. If, for instance, you have already concluded that seeing a rooster in a dream has proven to be precognitive, you will easily identify any future dreams that have roosters of one kind or another in the dream imagery, which will help you understand that someone you may be meeting that day will somehow or other have an understanding of the dream images you just had, because it may mean something specific to them. Do you understand?

JON: Yes.

KRIS: Or, the imagery is significant to yourself and it is usually in retrospect that you can notice these many subtle things.

JON: Is it a good idea to also jot down the events that occur in the day?

KRIS: It is indeed. You may not necessarily need to write every single second that passed during the day, but the salient points may be just as useful. Please continue.

JON: Okay. Maybe since we were talking about — I was interested if you could comment a bit about what my intent is.

KRIS: (Very long pause) If you asked a question, please repeat.

JON: I was wondering if you could comment on what my intent is.

KRIS: It may appear philosophically quaint to say your intent is to be happy or your intent is this. From our perspective the individuality sits upon an incredibly complex multidimensional structure which contains multiple intents and an intent is not necessarily something that can be watered down to one word. We have described at the very beginning that whether you realize this or not, there is an intense curiosity, a need to understand and know and even you have not yet tapped the depth of this.

Whether it pertains merely to physical reality or non-physical reality — that which is the foundation for the physical reality — you have a deep curiosity and desire to understand at least portions of who and what you are in the midst of this great reality, this collective reality. And indeed, a color — this is not the correct expression — (pause, and Kris breathes deeply) — this curiosity is spread throughout almost all of your endeavors, even though there are few occasions where you deliberately, consciously take notice of this, it underlines your whole thrust into physical reality.

JON: Yes.

KRIS: We compare it to this: it is very rare for an individual to enter the supermarket only for one item — though it does occur — the majority of people who enter the supermarket are there to gather many provisions of dry goods and otherwise, correct?

JON: Yes.

KRIS: Indeed sometimes carts full of them. And the same idea holds with intent, with the projection into physical reality, there are usually many — layers even — of explorations to be had, understandings to be harvested, answers and questions to be sowed and reaped. Does that make sense to you?

JON: Yep.

KRIS: Most things that will draw your attention strongly are related to even aspects of interests and just as the personality structure are composed of many different aspects, each aspect representing then, some of those intents. So exploration of whom and what you are would lead you to discover many of those on your own and you can make a game of it. Please feel free to continue.

JON: All right. Something I’ve been curious about: when I was younger at home sometimes I would go on walks at night I would see ghostly forms and then like vibrations and rushing sounds — I’d hear a bunch of rushing sounds and vibrations sort of like I was going to go out of my body and I’d get a bit scared about that in a way and also at one time I was in my bed asleep and I woke up and I knew that there was aliens on the porch, I was really scared but then I closed the door, the outside door to the porch, went back to sleep, [later] the housekeeper over at the neighbor’s, said that she saw a glowing green cigar shape hovering above our house that night. I was curious what was going on in these circumstances.

KRIS: Indeed, most interesting imagery and all imagery, physical world imagery, personal imagery is just that: allegorical or symbolic of something else. When something is detected and is considered alien to yourself, alien to your understanding of the world, it can be perceived as exactly that: alien. Do you understand?

JON: Yep.

KRIS: Even the detection of other life forms that you may not necessarily have had the means to understand back then, would have taken on the camouflage of aliens by you. If you take a moment to consider that at an earlier age you had flowing through you, memories you did not necessarily understand, that did not seem to fit, or match, the life you were beginning to claim as your own. These echoes, memories, remembrances of other lifetimes, other individuals in those lifetimes, may have appeared to your own young mind as foreign or alien to your understanding of the world today. Do you follow that?

JON: Yes.

KRIS: Even those vibrations and luminescence that you would perceive, there was in your youth many an attempt to understand — you may have called it the Divine, God, the cosmos, the universe — and though the complete scope of your questions may not necessarily have been detailed enough you soon perceive so much more of your own source of being. Do you remember the name we gave?

JON: Reginald.

KRIS: Indeed, you may have quite likely have detected that presence and perhaps even others, but not having any references how to interpret those energies it would have been only appropriate that those energies were alien only to your present perceptions and could have easily appeared to your mind’s eye AS aliens. Does that make sense to you?

JON: Yes, so it’s sort of like a bleed-through from some other focuses?

KRIS: A bleed-through from your own perceptions in exactly the same way that you may have specific types of dreams and depending upon your own belief structures you would have interpreted energy in terms of, or in the light of, your human eye or youthful convictions. Though there may not have been any true alien in the Hollywood sense, what you perceived was at the same time, alien to your perceptions. Does that make sense to you?

JON: Yeah.

KRIS: Thus you had attempted to interpret in the line of those perceptions.

JON: When the housekeeper next door saw that glowing green cigar shape — was that also just a physical manifestation of some energy –

KRIS: Indeed, an interpretation.

JON: Okay.

KRIS: Consider this as well: you think that you look like what you see in the mirror as most people do; but that is a reflection, a facsimile of what you truly are. But it is interpreted in the terms of the language that you are accustomed to, neurologically speaking, with your physical experience, though you may be very, very different. Do you understand?

JON: Yes. Okay.

KRIS: Now, we are understanding that some people would insist that what they see and experience is real in that very sense of the word and to a certain degree, there is a correctness here, but only as far as the interpretive mechanisms of your sensory apparatus are concerned. Other than that, you know from your own experience that though at one time, you were six months old in diapers, you were two years old — without diapers possibly — you were at one point recently a teenager. You are who you are now, at another point in the future you will become middle-aged and at another point you will become a more mature adult. You are all of these individuals, and at the same time you are different. Does that make sense?

JON: Yeah.

KRIS: The child and the teenager are still you or PART of you. The middle-aged individual and the more mature individual will also be part of who you are, but not any single one of them can look back and say that is the entirety of your being, correct?

JON: Yes.

KRIS: Therefore, you, as a physical being are a translation of you as an energy being, in very plain language. Does that make sense?

JON: Yeah.

KRIS: Please continue.

JON: How much control do I have over that energy being that is — I guess, you know — ME? That I shift into different ages and will, since they are all a part of me?

KRIS: With your consciousness it is possible. Is it probable? Also, is it practical? Perhaps, perhaps not. You have a physical form, but you already know that you cannot for instance, grow another head and be referred to as the “Two-headed Jon.”

JON There is no inclination to.

KRIS: Indeed, there is a truism that all things are possible, but that all things are probable and practical is another question entirely. You may have experienced with your dreams that even though you are in one room, it is possible for you to see into another room, or even simply to walk through walls or floors or ceilings, or even to hover several inches to many feet above the ground, or even to fly above the trees and rooftops, but you also are fully aware that you cannot physically perform the same feats. Each field of physics has its own set of rules, so to speak. You are also aware that with this physical body you are entirely free to step in front of an oncoming vehicle. As to its practicality, that desires to be seen. It depends on the kind of state of health you desire.

JON: (Laughing) Okay, here’s a question for you. I don’t know if we can get into it or answer it in the time we’ve got left…

KRIS: What is the time?

JON: Um, 4:14.

KRIS: Please continue.

JON: I was reading something last night in one of your transcripts you were talking about a type of Vimana — I’m not sure how you pronounce that — that could basically teleport and pop out somewhere else and it got me thinking about…I was wondering… you say you had to adjust to a certain frequency of a location and then you sort of manifest there…what is that – that attribute that gives things a certain position and velocity in space relative to some perceiver. You just say, okay I want to pop out at this coordinate over here and dial into that or…..basically what is that… is there something about that having to do with a certain location relative to other things?

KRIS: Indeed, each dimension within which there will be many realities have specific psychological atmospheres very much in the same manner that you can walk into a house and you may detect perhaps tension in the air — you can perceive some of the atmosphere in that space, correct?

JON: Yes.

KRIS: ALL dimensions have a certain atmosphere which may be attributed and related to the overall collective intentions of all the participants within all the realities within one dimension. Each dimension has similar properties. The navigator of one of these Vimanas would have qualifications and experiences in several or even multiple dimensions, and would have the ability to open his or her awareness as a means to link a pathway between one dimension and its reality to another dimension with that reality and provide that linking or portal. Your scientists may also refer to them as wormholes.

That navigator would also be able to bring in alignment the desires of the passengers which would have been potentially briefed about the methods to be utilized. This requires a little more finesse than simply popping on the bus, but there are still similarities. Everyone traveling on the bus is going in a general similar direction, even though they may get off at different points during that line. Do you follow?

JON: Yes.

KRIS: The ability of the navigator would enable for those transitions to be accomplished. Few were such navigators and very much sought after, but at the same time, few were the types of customers that would make use of his or her talents, because it would also require certain adjustments from the psychology of the travelers themselves.

JON: So they all have to basically concentrate on the psychological atmosphere of the destination and –

KRIS: Indeed, now we may further add that it was in the travelers’ best interest to connect with and focus at the destination as a means of providing additional link-up. In today’s culture, there are preliminary foundations established whereas each individual may begin to use their own consciousness, if only for very limited travels — and these are very preliminary — you are able to utilize such means in deep dream states, out-of-body projections, and even specific types of lucid dreams. Not everyone has the ability for recall, whereas eventually those adventures and that knowledge may come to the surface in a conscious manner. Do you follow?

JON: Yes, yes. Okay.

KRIS: Please continue.

JON: Um, just one follow-up: would it be possible to develop a purely mechanical device to accomplish this without the psychological ability of the navigator… you know, basically a sort of teleportation device…where you could pop in and pop out –

KRIS: Again the possibility exists. The means and the understanding to do so are rather lacking, but your species is exploring, through the advent of technology, foundational laws and physics that eventually will permit such, but this is very much in its infancy. Your species and scientists are verily playing with the transportation of beams of light over short distances and the teleportations have been successful, but to move beyond that at this point in time requires large amounts of funding and large amounts of brain matter.

JON: Yeah. Okay, thanks.

KRIS: Please continue.

JON: You mentioned once I think in one of Norm’s sessions, that E=mc2 was inaccurate, that it actually [is] E=mc to the Pi, and I was curious, just from what I’ve been told in physics classes that E=mc2 was pretty accurate modeling vehicular reaction and the energy released, and the mass changes, so the extra energy associated with the Pi factor hasn’t really, with experiments we’ve been shown, as far as I know…

KRIS: Indeed, in this you are correct. When we qualified E=mc2 as not necessarily accurate, it did not mean that it was false. It does pertain to CERTAIN aspects of the laws of physics as you think, or your species thinks it understands. Now, consciousness is a very curious beast indeed, much more so than the furry little creature that now inhabits this place (referring to Serge and Mark’s kitten). And post perceptions of the collective have very much to do with the laws of physics as you understand it, limited only by your beliefs. So you collectively believe that you can only fly with airplanes through the advent of technology, whereas at one point, you believed it was impossible for human beings to fly, physically speaking. Your collective intents and desires to explore have pushed the boundaries of your collective beliefs; have also expanded how the laws of physics reflect your curiosities. Does that make sense?

JON: Yes.

KRIS: It will come, in a time, where what you think you know now, what you think you understand as the laws of physics, will be changed.

JON: Will a lot of the physics themselves be changed, or our ability to explore –

KRIS: Because of your ability to expand the boundaries of your collective understandings, it may appear as if the laws of physics are changing, but it is laws of your convictions that are changing.

JON: Is there an experiment that can be done to see that extra energy factor? At this moment in time, maybe later, if possible?

KRIS: Take limb regeneration. It was believed for the longest time this was an impossibility. Do you understand?

JON: Yeah.

KRIS: However, slowly experimentations are underway where the studies of CERTAIN lizards and geckos have shown that they can re-grow a severed tail. So there are always hints somewhere in nature and in the world, that what you think you know as an established fact actually may not be exactly what it appears. Does that make sense?

JON: Yeah, always exceptions to the rule.

KRIS: Indeed, there are other potential observations such as on several places upon the planet where gravity acts different — where it is apparently a fact that if you put a round object on the top of a hill, it will come down — but several places on the planet have shown that, if you put an object at the bottom of the hill, it will go up, as well as rivers can go up.

JON: And that’s not just due to just…yeah (inaudible)

KRIS: Indeed, because these are HINTS, little pockets of potentially different kinds of laws of physics. This gives HOPE that one day you will see that there are layers within physical reality where the laws of physics can be very different in their applications. Again, go back to specific dreams where the dreamer finds himself or herself able to float through a wall into another room, or to hover several inches, several feet, or yards or MILES above the ground. Or even directly out-and-out FLY, because in the dream state you have further hints that in that dimension physics are applied differently. Does that make some sense?

JON: Yes. Pretty different altogether.

KRIS: Indeed. Now, in physical reality it is rather difficult to walk through a wall as you do in dream reality, unless of course you wish to break your nose! Each in their context, but it does give you an indication that not all the same laws of physics are applicable everywhere. And as your species grows in awareness, new discoveries will be made. New sciences will emerge, perhaps new sciences that will refute the findings of old sciences, just like the medical and the scientific communities in their own ways have refuted old wives’ tales, though sometimes old wives’ tales are proven much more fruitful. Do you understand?

JON: Yeah.

KRIS: So there are always varieties of tensions that exist between states of being and their varying physics. So when we said that E=mc2 was perhaps not as accurate as it is taught to be, it gives you an indication of certain layers of the laws of physics. But if you play with what we have given, and even consider that there are several hidden dimensions of Pi yet to be understood and discovered, it may fuel your imagination into exploring far more of physical reality than you have allowed your senses to perceive, or that the race has allowed its collective senses to perceive at this point in time.

Consider also the concept of simultaneous time: that within each moment ALL realities exist simultaneously, and all time exists simultaneously. That may open the doors a bit more to this notion that are at least four other hidden dimensions of time unless there is another perception of reality altogether – a much wider reality by exploring the potential that E=mc Pi. Does that make SOME kind of sense to you?

JON: Yeah, it does. I’m not sure how to imagine what a hidden dimension of Pi is…

KRIS: If you allow yourself to play with the concept of simultaneous time, which would include simultaneous multidimensionality, it may inch you somewhat closer to connecting some of the hidden dimensions of Pi.

JON: Pi still being the ratio of the circumference to the radius of a circle?

KRIS: Indeed, and that may mean many different things. Now, what is the time?

JON: It is 4:55.

KRIS: Indeed, Reginald we will leave you to your devices of consciousness.

JON: Thank you very much, it was great.

KRIS: Indeed, and the honor has been ours and again we thank you for your consideration.

The True Pandemic

October 24, 2005

Kris Chronicles
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Ellen Gilbert (Kwaa’Ji)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on October 24, 2005
Copyright 2005 Avion Rising, Inc.

Roll call: Serge (Joseph), Mark (Philip), Jon (Reginald), Alice (Miluumea), John (Soharse), Myrna (Shara-Leene), Lida (Miriam) and Helena

[Pre-talk consisted of a discussion concerning how many people expect Essence to "fix" things for them, and that Essence does not "fix" things, but that communication with Essence, understanding of Essence does grow and develop in time. John shared some of his current work on his ongoing creative writing project of "Sid's cafe" and Myrna mentioned how these sessions are helping that development along those lines, as well as fueling his creative engine. ]

(Session begins at 7:38 PM)

KRIS: Now, furthering your lovely comments about Essence coming in and “fixing” your things. Let it be known that we do not belong to that union (Group laughter) lest a house fall upon our sister! (Delayed laughter). In that respect we do not have a magical wand, but if we did have any abilities in that respect, it would be to awaken within YOU your own abilities. And the only way that can be accomplished is to bring you to the threshold of realizing what YOUR potentials can be. But you still have to choose whether or not you will choose to step over the threshold.

The old saying that you can bring a horse to water but you cannot make it drink still stands. You have to make full use of your critical faculties which includes your ability to choose for yourselves and to literally administer, administrate your own responsibilities along those lines. For you are responsible for your actions. In that respect, the enchantment is yours to hold and behold and to make do with as you wish. That is the fundamental law if there was any law to be had concerning free will. And if your name happens to be Willy, then all the better!

It is indeed, of the utmost importance that you expand and widen your awareness to take into consideration that your reality is created, maintained, managed, and literally…… we are looking for a word…… (Long pause) we believe the word is to become a responsible STEWARD of that reality that is yours alone! As we have suggested before, such stewardship must take into consideration, and it must become part of the experience that there is no one, nor thing that is responsible for the conditions, the occurrences, nor the convictions that you experience. That is a tall order to fill.

And indeed, in the eventuality that you acquiesce to that realization — which is the meaning of enlightenment — then indeed the whole meaning of physical existence, of physical reality, and the philosophy behind that concept takes on a completely different dimension. It is no longer a world that exists outside of you exclusively, but that this apparent outside, external and objective world is merely an extension, an expression of that inner, subjective experience that is the nature of your being. And again we fully understand that this is a tall order.

The whole idea behind these kinds of encounters with the Universe — whether voiced through ourselves or another — is YOUR attempts to explore that concept. That is why you create physical reality in the first place: to experience. And not only to sit there and experience the world go by, but indeed to experience YOUR world unfold before your very eyes, and to watch those subjective states — your passions, your emotions, your convictions, and so on — literally go from apparently nothing tangible and substantial and become manifest as the physical reality you have come to enjoy — or not, as the case may be!

But nonetheless even when you profess non-enjoyment of that world you will not engage those creations without sufficient amount of joy, even in creating apparent joyless episodes. And indeed because of free will you can choose to bemoan your fate, to cry “woe is me!” — OR — to declare that “As of this moment, as of this time, and into all other times and moments, I will become aware of the reality as I manifest it, and take full responsibility both for the creations I profess to love and those creations I profess to deny; for I know in the depths of my being ALL of my creations are blessed, because I am a blessed being.”

And we further suggest that this last sentence and paragraph not only stay lodged somewhere between one eardrum and the other, floating around like a ping-pong ball, but that you find a way to write it as many times as you desire. CUT that affirmation and post it in as many places as you can in your home, or anywhere else so that in some way or another you will always be reminded that, just as you created the writing on the paper, so is your reality created in the same way. Does that make sense?

JOHN: Yes, definitely.

KRIS: Even the rainy weather — it is said that ducks need it. And just as the newest addition to this household is discovering for itself that this is a brand new world, and that its curiosity will forever urge it on to discover every nook and cranny, every shelf, every corner, and that eventually everything can be a play thing, so can you take the day on with a similar mood. (Referring now to Serge and Mark’s brand new kitten, Emily.)

MYRNA: Kris?

KRIS: Indeed? You have something to purr about? (Group laughter)

MYRNA: So I start my day with intention and gratitude and something comes up during the day that I’ve created — I understand that — in the form of somebody doing something that really pisses me off –

KRIS: Indeed, something that would make you hiss and spit and puff your tail! (Laughter)

MYRNA: Exactly! And I can go on and on and on like that, even though I know I’ve created her doing this…

KRIS: Indeed, and the more you hiss, spit and puff your tail the greater that confrontation will become until you realize that somehow or other this is your creation and you have the means to discover why, even if the answer only comes next week. But it is possible to IMMEDIATELY defuse the urgency of that emotional confrontation –

MYRNA: I would like that, yeah.

KRIS: Because when your nose is up against the tree you cannot see the forest. Again, as soon as you ‘Back up’ (referencing last week’s conversation), the forest becomes far more visible, the lay of the land, the lay of the emotions, the topography, becomes more discernible. Does that make sense?

MYRNA: Yeah, yeah. I get into such an automatic response, although I’m getting better, but I do fight.

KRIS: Then add to the affirmation that even your nemesis — the automatic response button –seems to be stuck on hold, this too can receive a tune-up and take less importance to your behavior.

MYRNA: I don’t know what you mean by tune-up.

KRIS: If the button, the response button, is stuck in holding pattern position, it might need some kind of work — a tune-up, a lube job — to loosen it so that it can pop out of holding pattern into “pause”. Does that make sense?

MYRNA: Well, it does, but I’m not sure what the grease looks like.

JOHN: Backing up is a concrete thing you can do. Right? Maybe backing off allows that button to pop up.

MYRNA: Yeah. Got it. Thank you.

KRIS: As soon as you become aware that this mental storm front is coming into your awareness — and you will know it! — Imagine that you have a remote — that trustworthy weapon of the twenty-first century! — (Group laughter) and put it in reverse, so that you can breathe once again. Take a deep breath, and move away from the weather-front, knowing that it is there, but that you are able to do something about it.

MYRNA: Thanks.

(Long pause)

KRIS: This is one of those evenings where you can have your way with us (Raucous laughter), but be forewarned, that should also imply that we may have our way with you! (Laughter)

JOHN: Fair, that’s fair.

LIDA: Kris, there has been much talk about this possible flu pandemic; are people, countries, doing the right thing? What are your views on the situation?

KRIS: This is a very large issue, and highly complex. So far, apparently, approximately 68 to 70 people on the face of this entire planet have died from the apparent cross-breeding of the avian flu virus with the human virus gene, and that should be sufficient to set the entire planet on its ears. Now, without sounding crass about it, who stands largely to benefit from this?

HELENA: The pharmaceutical companies.

LIDA: (Largely inaudible, but Lida mentions the government)

KRIS: These two and many more, but largely overall, Big Pharma stands to gain enormously from it and any governments that are entirely to be found as supporters of government policies. And since many western world governments have substantial holdings with the pharmaceuticals in one way or another, the juggernaut engines of the government will be kicked into full gear to press the population into fear mode to increase the sales of vaccinations almost of any kind in hopes of staving off a pandemic.

And this of course must be done under the guise of caring for general public health. Now this does not mean that all individuals involved in those fields are uncaring and callous, but they are all caught up, deeply enmeshed, in the belief structures that involve the medical profession at that level. This serves layers and layers of purposes for all of those involved in that kind of scenario clear across the planet. And there are many people that have a knowing that this is not an issue that they need to feed. It does not mean that they pretend it does not exist, but they have already programmed themselves in one form or another that the enemy is not a virus, but that FEAR is the terrorist in this case, a psychological fear.

They have, one way or another, already programmed themselves through their belief structures either that if it happens, it will happen, or that nothing will occur. But they do not chew their nails to the bone worrying as to WHEN — not if, but when — they will die from it. And that does make a difference. They are not indifferent to the potential; they have no desire to lend it further energy as to become part of THEIR reality. Again it does not mean that they ignore it, they deny it, they pretend it does not exist. They will acknowledge it as a potential reality, but it may not be the reality that they will create for themselves.

And as we suggested, this is a complex issue. There are many probabilities swirling about and the consensus reality has yet to be determined, but it does not override your own choices. How many of you have been around family members, some of which have gotten the flu at one time or another and you did not manifest one single sneeze? And how many times has it occurred that you seemed to suffer as Job, while those around you did not sneeze once? Should it not be that if you all live in the same environment, you should all have the same condition?

Or is it that somehow or other viruses can select their targets? Do they sit at their table, Napoleon-like, and move their human pieces and strategize as to whom will get it tomorrow? And what army of viruses will attack? Indeed not. We are then suggesting that this may be far more overrated and that potential stocks of pharmaceutical companies may be over-inflated at the moment and the next quarter may not bring the expected increases and yields. Does that answer your question?

LIDA: Yes, thank you very much.

MYRNA: Stephen Lewis’ new book called “Race Against Time”, — I had no idea how appalling the figures are in Africa — I had NO idea, and there’s a part of me that wants to deal with that, Kris, in the same way that I’m dealing with the concept of the pandemic and that is– oh, either it was you or Abraham that said, I can’t be sick enough to heal all the sick and I can’t be poor enough to heal all the poverty — um, I can’t be sick enough to heal what’s going on in Africa. And there is a huge part of me, although compassionate enough to want to do something, also feels as if I need to distance myself from that because I feel so overwhelmed by guilt or so overwhelmed by “What do I do?” and I feel guilty about feeling NOT guilty, you know what I mean? I’m not even sure there’s a question there, except maybe assure me — there’s a part of me that doesn’t want to do anything.

KRIS: What would quite likely scandalize you is to study how numbers, figures, and statistics are — or how they are — organized for maximum impact. That may help cool your fears somewhat. How are numbers crunched to get maximum funding? It is, for example, quite well known that the AIDS community of San Francisco has punched the numbers to a new height for fear that if the numbers are not elevated on a yearly basis, funding will be reduced; and since it is now a billion dollar industry, funding CANNOT be reduced, because funding is a business. Do you understand?

MYRNA: I feel sick!

KRIS: Indeed. It is outright manipulation to keep the status quo. Every year, they have added all the numbers from the previous year making it look as if AIDS is forever on such an increase that by next week half the planet will drop dead! In India, the numbers have been so manipulated that three to five times the amount of children in the whole of India have now become orphaned by parents who died of AIDS, supposedly.

The numbers DO NOT compute, yet the figures are not questioned because funding is at risk. And no one wants funding to go down, because CEO’s would no longer be able to afford their Mercedes. And it is also a well-documented fact in your reality that a good portion of funds and donations to charitable organizations do not ever reach those it is intended for. It instead, lights the garages with the latest vehicles, and so on. Do not easily be fooled by numbers that seek to wrench your heart and steal your hard-earned money.

MYRNA: So I might have presented this opportunity to myself by reading about Stephen Lewis’ book and all the statistics on it or possibly….choosing not to do anything here because I don’t want to get caught up in that energy.

KRIS: Indeed, it is not that you might not be doing anything about it; you ARE doing something about it. You are waking up to the realities of statistics and how they can so easily be manipulated. One moment they can prove for and the next prove against, using the same numbers. Statistics will show what you want them to show. There are sufficient studies on statistics to back up what we have just said. So you would have presented yourself with this opportunity, perhaps to minimize the impact of the statistics themselves and how they, apparently, make you feel.

Is it then, that the statistics made you feel that way, or that those feelings exist somewhere within you and the statistics were used to bring them up to the surface of your consciousness for you to then deal with? Do those deep feelings overpower you, or are they seen in the context of reality and dealt with accordingly to EMPOWER yourself as opposed to disempowering you? Do statistics steal your power or remind you that someone is TRYING to take it from you? You are a deity, as everyone in this room and everyone who reads this transcript, an Earth Goddess and an Earth God. (Pause… as Kris rocks back and forth in his creaky rocker) And sometimes Earth Gods have creaking chairs. (Laughter)

Do you understand?

MYRNA: Yes, I do. And I’m appalled.

KRIS: Indeed, as you should be. That is a beginning to recovering your power — seeing where it has been siphoned off. Now, cut the ropes!

MYRNA: Actually that would be a great topic for a whole evening, where my — our — power has been siphoned off.

MARK: Or a series of evenings! (Laughter)

KRIS: Now you must understand that “Coronation Street” already has that well covered! (Group laughter)

MYRNA: I know that, I watch it!

KRIS: “Coronation Street” and so many soap operas are exactly about this kind of drama. Who does who and what and who does what to whom and who does who! Simply let it be known that your power is for you to decide how you will manage it and share it. You are its steward.

MYRNA: I don’t think John’s story is finished yet….on Gods and Goddesses. I don’t think [Kris interrupts].

KRIS: Indeed. He gives much too much of a hoot then.

MYRNA: There’s way too much here to be explored, Kris. Just way too much. And I don’t even have the questions right now, but it’s huge.

KRIS: You are speechless? (Group chuckles) Indeed then. Any other lovely questions?

ALICE: Well, I don’t know what the question is, but I’ll try it. It’s obviously an interesting time in my life when…death….and one of the things that has come out of that has been…well, obviously grief, but also a sense of having my life to myself for the first time in my life. And the other thing that’s been interesting has been some work that I’ve been doing on forgiving, which I realize has potential to my own sanity –

KRIS: Indeed it is a system that works very well, as you long as you do not forget to forgive yourself and at the same time that the forgiving includes giving. FOR-GIVING. Towards and to one. Correct?

ALICE: Mmhm.

KRIS: Indeed, that is what it is about. For-giving of self, even to yourself.

ALICE: I need to give to myself right now.

KRIS: We believe your Christmas season is soon upon you, less or approximately two months. Make it the best season ever FOR GIVING to yourselves. And if ever there is one present that should be offered for the giving, it is yourselves unto yourselves. Does that make sense? Does that answer your non-question?

ALICE: (Laughing) Part of it, sure. I guess just on the personal level I wonder if you have any comments about direction, both geographically and otherwise.

MARK: Where do you stand?

ALICE: (Laughing) Yeah, I don’t want to go there.

KRIS: At this point in time we believe you would best be served by honoring your present experience and simply asking Self to reveal where it is best that you unfold the next phase of your existence. Does that sound good to you?

ALICE: Mmhm, well mostly what I decided is to just be open to whatever shows up.

KRIS: Indeed, like a dandelion flower, be prepared to go with the wind.

HELENA: Kris, I’d like to ask something. Getting back to what we were talking about earlier that we create our reality…and we create our upsets with other people….according to what you were saying to release the hold button and back off — I wonder if you could comment a little bit on how we relate to or deal with the responsibility of the other person in terms of the upset — there’s a co-creation — I believe the situation is co-created.

KRIS: This is indeed correct, however what occurs in YOUR reality is your creation. Two individuals obviously engage together. Now we usually have one rule of thumb: Do no harm to others. It may sound simple enough, but you have to explore who is other. We have spent many sessions on this topic. The OTHER is YOU. In terms of a co-creation, you may both indeed be involved in hair-pulling and name-calling, and emotion throwing, and so on and so forth, but that is still your reality and you are NOT responsible for how the other reacts as far as objective surface reality is concerned.

Whether you understand objective or subjective reality, both of those are also your own responsibility. You are dealing with a conundrum and nothing can be more Zen-like than trying to understand that the other is also you. And in that space between other and you, which obviously is a philosophical experience, that Bardo — that state between — is where you meet yourself face to face. And you are entirely responsible for your reactions and your actions. No one can indeed force you to do or behave in any way you have not acquiesced. You do not force and cannot force another to do or behave or feel in any way THEY have not acquiesced.

But again, other is you. The best way to understand this is to understand that to evaluate your personal position, what you may have to gain — and thus lose — either by accepting full responsibility or projecting responsibility to the other. You are entirely responsible to yourself. Fortunately for all of you, there are no great cosmic or space committees evaluating you on a quarterly basis, but you do a sufficient job of evaluating yourselves on a continual basis.

And due to many of your own backgrounds, you tend to — as what was pointed out earlier — feel guilty when you do not feel guilty enough, as if somehow or other there is a secret quota to be met. And you simply often act like pit bulls in that regard. You bite into the idea and refuse to let go. That is due to conditioning, and some of that conditioning has to do with non-acceptance that you are responsible for the way you feel about what occurs in your life. And it is not simplest of philosophies.

HELENA: Would you say that last sentence again, please?

KRIS: It is not the simplest of philosophies to accept that you are indeed responsible for your feelings and actions in this life and we fully understand it. We have had fleshy experiences ENOUGH to know life from that perspective. But the problem is not the fleshy experience and things of the flesh, but instead, how you accept your end of the bargain. As we said moments ago, this is also a very Zen topic, for it is even convoluted and sometimes people interpret it in a very literal sense. But the literal understanding is not the only, and it is indeed the tip of THAT iceberg.

MYRNA: Can I go back to something you said earlier tonight about “in joy, we created the joyless”?

KRIS: Indeed, it may sound somewhat morbid, but a full view of that line of thought — follow those very experiences into the shadows and you will see that there is a great many lessons to be learned in HOW you sometimes NEED the shadowy experiences to bring yourselves to an understanding. They are part of your experiences. This is the nature of duplicity. Duplicity invites two sides to an experience and the number one reason is often thought to be fear, and in a manner of speaking, it is relatable to fear. It is a fear of loving too much. Sometimes plain fear of loving. Does that make any sense?

ALICE: Unfortunately. (Group laughter)

MYRNA: Uh, I followed it all until you got to that last part, not that I don’t understand fear of loving, or loving too much, but — where did that come from? I mean, I’m sorry, I was listening… but I — there’s two sides, right? And then how did we get — where did the fear come from?

KRIS: It is part of your system of duplicity. And you have been raised to believe that you should be afraid of loving, and even more fearful of loving MORE, because if you love too much, obviously others will walk all over you, will hurt you. Often even when you love, you feel insecure because you have put insecurity there, where it does not exist. Behind your fear is a true love. You hide your disappointments, and fear and pain, but underneath those masks you love even those who may appear to have betrayed you. But you hide that deeper love behind heavy doors. Does that make sense to you?

(Yes)

(Loudly) Now what would happen if those heavy doors were blown apart?!

MARK: We’d be vulnerable … NOT! (Not added as an after-thought.)

KRIS: You may think so. But you would be naked in your love. That kind of loving is unadulterated. Such is the power OF that love that you can stand naked before others and it is not THEIR reality that will impinge upon yours, but your reality that will shine forth. This is perhaps a cryptic way of telling you that, in spite of all of your fears about living, at some point during the course of your cosmic existence you will admit that you love.

You do not only love your lovers, your friends, your family, you love them all — ALL of them, ALL OF YOUR OTHER YOU’S! The other is YOU. You love all of those others. That is what is underneath the conflict. You love the whole world, because the whole world is YOU. It is a map of you. The artist’s rendition of you. You are afraid of being hurt, and you do not want the warm, nurturing tears of love to appear as a weakness and a flaw in your character, so you stitch that heart closed, and you engage the dramas and the scenarios of pain, guilt and worry. You find a certain security in that. It seems to you more real in a way, than to have to admit that even those who appear to perform across … trespasses somewhere in your heart, you still love the humanity of them.

If you have heard the words, sensed their depth, you will also be able to sense that deep in the heart of your heart, there is an energy beating, THRIVING. It is a distant spark of that greater or true love and it is not a fairy tale loving, it is not a naive loving; it is something much more powerful. It is the same loving that you designed your human experience to share in it, even if along the way you try to hide it behind heavy closed doors. In so many words, each one of you gives a hoot. (Group chuckling)

(In a lighter tone:) Now you are entirely free to admit to that or not! (Laughter) But it would be to your advantage to acknowledge, address and accept it. When we speak of falling in love with love, we never intended to preach about narcissistic, hedonistic, superficial and shallow loving, but that instead you embrace even your shadow and see that behind the shadow lives a great light. (Almost musically) A light, a love that embraces the whole world and all of its creatures; ALL of its creatures! And from that perspective, there are no friend and foes, there are only lovers. ONLY lovers! And with that we give you a lovely break.

(Break begins at 8:44)

JOHN: (To Myrna:)That’s quite a question you asked, how about how do you deal — and there’s a real paradox there because when you’re dealing with someone who’s pissing you off royally, right? And you’re saying okay, on the one hand you say, I’m creating my own reality and this person is, and I’m creating all that, on the other hand, they’re creating their half of it at least, also they are YOU which puts a different –

ALICE: Spin on it.

MYRNA: You’ve created this aspect of you, right? This aspect of you is pissing you off, I think that’s where the dance is: if I see that aspect as ME, not so-and-so, but me –

JOHN: Then you’re pissing yourself off.

MYRNA: I’m pissing myself off.

MARK: So you place yourself on the topographical map of beliefs and you place this other you on the topographical map — the idea is to try get insight into THEIR beliefs and their belief structures. Ultimately everybody’s fighting for what they believe in, and to understand that there are truths from their perspective as well, you know once you understand both sides of the coin or have different perspectives you are better able to come to a more harmonious solution — it may not be best for you, but it’s more balanced.

MYRNA: It helps me to know that that person is a belief of mine, that’s a belief being reflected back, and it helps to know that by bringing all of you in, or whoever in, I get to explore ME, aspects of me through YOU. So this confrontation with ME is a confrontation of beliefs within me.

JOHN: Mmhm, and we get to explore aspects of US through YOU! Isn’t it lovely how that works? (Group chuckles) It’s very even-handed!

MYRNA: It is lovely. It’s a wonderful concept. And that topographical map is very important.

ALICE: What was that?

MARK: The topographical map of self. We create maps of ourselves, like we are — the world is an expression of us, and we can draw a map of the world, but once you draw a topographical map, it not only places you on the latitude and longitude, but basically you’re expressing where you are situated in the world, where your beliefs lie and the other you is expressing different beliefs in a different topographical region, expressing different beliefs. They’re still beliefs of yours expressing themselves from a distance, just as you are distant beliefs to them. Kris says it much more eloquently. (Laughing)

MYRNA: That helps me understand — that he said locate yourself on that map — that helps me understand why I’m upset about the women in Africa. Those 24-year-olds dying of AIDS in Africa is ME — there’s an aspect of me that got recognized.

MARK: Yes.

MYRNA: Got it.

(ELLEN’S NOTE: Several conversations go on at once here, impossible to separate, then John picks up on something from Myrna and Helena’s conversation.)

JOHN: What was that, did we miss something?

MYRNA: Helena was saying it’s the luck of the draw that I’m not that 24-year-old, [but I'm saying] it’s not the luck of the draw, I’ve chosen this lifetime to locate myself HERE as a belief, not THERE. However, that’s still a belief that still exists somewhere.

JOHN: Also there’s some part of you that’s 24 years old that’s dying from some wasting illness in a metaphorical way.

MYRNA: Exactly, in a metaphorical way. And so my compassion — it’s the part of me needing compassion.

MARK: Either way, whether it’s you, Myrna or you this other person, you’re crying out for change, wanting to change those beliefs, change those around.

JOHN: Reclaim your God powers and go “Sprinkle, sprinkle, sprinkle — Gone!”

MYRNA: Yes.

JOHN: (Some joking about John’s mentioning of “sprinkles” and an association with Alice in Wonderland and the song by Jefferson Airplane “White Rabbit”) One pill makes you larger…

SERGE: I gather it was a very heavy topic… It felt like — not a heaviness –like a seriousness, but not heavy handed…?

JOHN: Well he was talking about love and how underneath the carpet so to speak, we have this love for the whole world and everyone in it, but at a surface level, we have all this “stuff” going on, but at this deeper level we are totally, madly in love with the whole world.

MYRNA: Yeah, on this level, we’ve armored ourselves. We’ve placed heavy doors.

MARK: Yeah, fear of loving, fear of being loved, fear of loving too much. Look at our television, look at our movies, look at our plays and musicals, look at our song lyrics “I loved her, she ditched me; I ran over the dog,” you know, Romeo and Juliet — look at Hollywood. Look at everything.

JOHN: It’s interesting, he said that if you were to open those doors and let that real love come out, all of the people who you thought might laughing or sniggering or looking at your nakedness, they won’t be affecting YOUR reality and you on the other hand, will be affecting THEIR reality.

MARK: Not affecting, but shining an influence.

JOHN: One person basically, can do anything.

MARK: When you’re in love, you can basically do no harm and you don’t care what people think. Kris put out a challenge to me years ago, and has reiterated this many times, challenging people to just be in love, not with anyone or with anything, but just be in love in that state and one day it hit me — boom! — the colors, the sounds, the sky, the smells, you notice it all, it’s just a wonderful feeling and you can do no harm! Nobody can affect you negatively either because you’re in that wonderful space.

JOHN: And you affect them!

MYRNA: Are you aware of yourself like that most of the time?

MARK: Not most of the time, but I do have my “A-ha’s!”

MYRNA: My experience of you is like that, especially when I’m greeted at the door by you, you just have this glow around you generally!

(Session resumes at 8:55 PM)

KRIS: Now we are glad that you are enjoying your discussion. Such an attitude, such a loving mood, indeed opens the heart to that deeper true love that becomes the TRUE pandemic. And unfortunately, there are no vaccines for that kind of pandemic. Others may close their windows and doors but you know that somewhere within their being, that same love is responding and they are restricting for their own reasons they are entitled to.

And never let it be said that this develops into a cold indifference towards others. Anyone who claims that they now are able to step over others and to use others for their own ends in that light have indeed missed the entire point of human experience in that context. Developing this mood will definitely affect you in a manner you may not expect, or understand or even be able to process for some time. But one thing is certain, your reality is altered and it returns the gift of creation back to you.

JOHN: May I ask a question on that?

KRIS: In one moment.

JOHN: Yes.

KRIS: The myth found in almost all religions of a creator God or Goddess giving the gift of life (gently but intently:) is just SELF. You have gifted yourselves with creation; the creation of your life experience, of your being and of that true love! Use the gift because it is FOR GIVING (Group laughter). And this is more than a play on words but it can be understood for all and from all endings. It is not merely about forgiving oneself for intransigencies, but it is about for giving to yourself that creation. We hope that you understand the differences. Now you had a lovely question? We trust it is “Hootish”?

JOHN: I do — I give a hoot, definitely. I get a hoot every once in a while, too. The question is, do you have any advice to us about how we can get into that mood of love? Techniques?

KRIS: We do have……we have two versions: the short and the long. We will expound on the short, and perhaps on another evening, on the long. (Pause) What is one thing that most human beings crave, may even NEED the most, and at the same time, are most fearful of?

MYRNA: Connection? The longing?

MARK: Love.

JOHN: Intimacy. Touching.

KRIS: Indeed! TOUCH. Touching is often much tabooed in your society. Even compassionate touching to yourselves. You think that even if you touch yourselves, you are all creepy, depraved, perhaps even degenerate. Such qualifiers that you stamp onto your being for wanting that which is actually life-giving. And that has been medically demonstrated with abandoned and sickly newborns — on the verge of death even — simply with loving, compassionate touch, holding, many of these infants will regain their healthy status and life. Do you follow?

(Yes)

Perhaps for a few moments a day, engage in touching meditation. If you are partnered, make it a practice to lovingly, compassionately touch each other everywhere for a few moments. A touch that says not only “My hands love to touch you, I love to touch you, but touching you gives me as much love, joy, and life as it does you.” If you are not partnered, you can do the same, but with yourself; especially any area of the body that you feel would somehow or other be best not to approach. Those areas need more of your loving touch than any other.

And if you somehow or other become emotional, if you feel a need to release tears, do so. If you feel the need to eroticize that moment, do so. Do not pass judgment on your being. Instead, acknowledge, address, and accept. You should have known that when we first spoke those three words, we would haunt you with them! And if you are even reluctant to engage that kind of a mood, then the diagnosis is that you need it even more. Does that make sense?

ALICE: Unfortunately!

JOHN: Lovely, very good!

MARK: Another trick to bringing about that feeling of love is invoking memory. Remember a time when you were in love and try and bring about, not so much the person or the thing, but the feelings that you experienced; that’s how I did it.

KRIS: That works just as well, as long as you engage TOUCHING. Link both together.

JOHN: Well, the short version was wonderful, Kris, and I can hardly wait for the long version one other night.

MYRNA: You sure you want to go for it now?

KRIS: It would involve ceremonies, ritual…

MYRNA: Oh, goodness!

KRIS: …and more time than we have left.

MYRNA: So, two weeks from tonight — (Group laughter) — you’re on!

KRIS: We did describe one session as “The Tantra of All That Is,” and since you are LOVELY expressions of All That Is, then it will be your Tantra.

MYRNA: Wonderful. Is there something we need to bring to it?

KRIS: There are things you might need to procure, but not for the evening. Now what is the time?

MARK: 9:07.

KRIS: Then indeed we release you to your lovely, touching selves.

ALL: Thank you Kris.

KRIS: And may you fully understand that you are far more blessed than even YOU think. And may your dreams be as blessed.

(Session ends at 9:07)

The following morning, IMMEDIATELY after this Kris session, the following article appeared in the “Metro” daily newspaper.

HEADLINE: Health officials mull breaking drug patent

SUBTITLE: Global demand for anti-viral exceeds supply

A meeting of international health officials has begun the contentious debate on how governments might break the patent on Tamiflu to shore up stockpiles of the anti-viral medication that may be the key to fighting pandemic influenza.

Under the international patent, the Swiss pharmaceutical firm Roche is the only company that may license manufacturers to make the drug until 2016.

But Roche is at production capacity and cannot keep up with surging international demand for Tamiflu.

The two day Ottawa meeting of officials from 30 countries and multilateral groups like the World Health Organization (WHO) that began yesterday (October 24, 2005) starts a discussion on how countries that may have own capacity to produce the drug can do so if Roche chooses not to license them.

“It may not be resolved here, but do you know that there are countries out there that are saying indeed they will defy patent restrictions,” said Federal Health Minister Ujjal Dosanjh, who is chairing the meeting.

Roche has warned against individual countries breaking their patent, but has suggested it may license four generic manufacturers to make the drug.

(Torstar News Service)

Tom from Hawaii

October 22, 2005

Kris Chronicles
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Tom (Desiré) from Hawaii
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on October 22, 2005
Copyright 2005 Avion Rising, Inc.

KRIS: Now we trust that you are comfortable and we thank you for your consideration.

TOM: Very nice to speak with you. I guess I’d like to start off with some questions about the material on the web site.

KRIS: Indeed.

TOM: You mentioned that there is a great knowledge within ourselves that is not and will never be linearly organized. It must be accessed in a non-standard, non-linear way. Now, is that non-linear way the same method you use when you recall your dreams in the morning and write them down?

KRIS: Now, your own existence – the very fact that you are whom and what you are exists along non-linear lines of development. There is an order, and a natural type of progression to the unfolding of human personality. That inner non-linear structure – that order has to be interpreted via the perceptive mechanism of the physical senses and the linear consciously directed ego structure. From the ego construction’s point of view, this inner order is so vast and may even appear as to be so foreign to its own ideas that the subjective experiences appear as chaotic and therefore need to be kept at bay somewhat and watched over very carefully so as to not upset the apple cart of the ego construction’s endeavors.

Having said this, there is still a portion of the ego construction that has an innate understanding – that its very ideas of structure and order are dependent on the larger subjective chaotic arrangements. Thus it can not ever completely succeed in controlling this border. It can never truly be an absolutely efficient customs official. There is always the possibility that an illegal immigrant may slip through the cracks and wreck havoc upon the system that the ego construction has so carefully set up. This however does not mean that it is impossible, as you have pointed out, starting with the retrieval of dream information.

Those adventures that your consciousness explores while the ego construction so nicely sleeps on the pillow in the night, or the day, or at any time actually, can be perceived, experienced, enjoyed – and a good starting place is – and that is why both Seth and ourselves have so often recommended that the individual make a concerted effort to not only work with their dreams – but to record them in such a manner as to provide the ego construction with concrete evidence that there is indeed much beneficial activity undertaken while its focus is sleeping.

The recording of dreams, the recalling of dreams, the working with dream imagery is a starting point – one very crucial. It has indeed been pervasive in all of your cultures past and present – and regardless of any attempt ever made towards suppressing dream information. Dream information has always surfaced in one way or another because it indeed the very life juices of the ego construction. It can not do without those adventures even though the human personality can – to a certain degree – train itself to ignore all of that material – it eventually does so at its own peril.

TOM: Ok, I’d like to ask a further question on that (subject). The information that we receive in dreams – in the symbolism of the dreams – well I write my dreams down and I’ve noticed that my writing and ability to conceptualize has been improving – now does (recalling and) writing down dreams effect your thoughts during the daytime? In that one somehow becomes – I don’t know if the word is more intelligent – or more creative?

KRIS: We would say utilize both – creativity is not necessarily a sign of intelligence, and being intelligent is not necessarily a sign of being creative. But in such cases – both can be equally applied for the simple fact that the more you engage the deeper recesses of your intelligence and your consciousness, the more you open the doors to the flow of impulses of knowledge and wisdom. Developing that awareness is crucial to an evolved being. It adds not only color but intensity and depth to the whole array of human experiences.

TOM: Ok, I have a question regarding the progression (of consciousness development). Should it be a general goal – channeling – (is this) something most people can look forward to – if they were stable (secure) with themselves?

KRIS: Not everyone may indeed have the interest nor the capacity…

TOM: Oh, so its not something that our race can be doing as a whole…

KRIS: Indeed not, but every focus personality is in touch with its own source – with its Essence – whether the individual consciously recognizes those communications or not is irrelevant. There are always avenues of experiences available to the individuality – that the individuality will make full use of in dream states – in spite of the focus conscious minds denial of such realities – they still exist.

For example, you may think that you do not see air. It has no tangibility that you can perceptually engage – but that does not mean that you can so easily turn around and decide to stop breathing – lest you do so at your own peril. Correct? You can not deny the necessity of it in spite of the fact that you may not see air. But its reality is most important to your longevity in every sense of the word. So you must therefore – acquiesce to that. Similarly, even though some individuals may deny the reality of dreams and all that involves – they would still be using those inner dimensions when they are least likely to be aware that they are blocking that information when they are in deep sleep states. But individuals do not dream only when they sleep. You dream 24 hours a day.

TOM: Hmm, I’ve noticed that lately.

KRIS: If you take a good old fashion flashlight, and you turn it on in a dark room, and you point it away from you. You only see what the beam of light illuminates. But you know that the rest of the room has not disappeared even though you may not see it. All you need to do is direct the beam of light in another direction, and another, and another until you have taken a consensus that the entire room is still there. Even though you are not perceiving the area where the beam of light was, but only perceiving where the beam of light is pointed towards. Does that make sense to you?

TOM: Yes, it’s a focus.

KRIS: Indeed, while you are awake in the normal sense of the word, you are focusing your beam of consciousness – in a manner of speaking – only on a small section of reality, the reality you are experiencing through your senses at that moment. But there is still much more reality that you are simultaneously experiencing but not consciously focusing on. If you have 360 degrees in a circle, and you are aware of one degree, does it mean then that the 359 other degrees have become non-existent? Indeed not. You will be aware gradually of one degree at a time, and with continued developing awareness, you may become aware of 2 degrees at a time, then 3 degrees at a time, 10 degrees, 100 degrees, or a full 360 degrees from Essence’s perspective.

TOM: That’s possible while still being a focus personality?

KRIS: It is very difficult – and nearly impossible at the present stage of your neurological development as a human being. You would have to literally increase your brain size 10 fold – and then some. But that would give your species a swelled head!

TOM: (laugh) Yes it would.

KRIS: Your neurological processes at this point in your species evolution can only accommodate so much. But that does not mean that any endeavor towards those ends must therefore be abandoned. But on the contrary, more awareness developed – rewards are a plenty.

TOM: You mentioned that not everyone may channel – but everyone has their source entities that they have constant communication with.

KRIS: Indeed, even if they were to die denying it, they still have it.

TOM: I had this friend in college and I was wondering if you could just comment on this. She was very into astrology and a straight A student – went on to get her PhD. She told me on the bus one day that the reason she does so well (in school) is that spirits tell her what to study – what’s on the test and what’s not on the test. In thinking about this material, do spirits really tell her what to study or is that her source self telling her what to study? I wish that when I was in college that I had spirits to tell me what to study and what not to study. I wonder about the ethics of that, gaining a competitive advantage over others because you have access to that type of information. Are there any ethical issues involved from the Essence perspective of helping a focus personality get a university degree as apposed to someone else that doesn’t (have that help) and struggles?

KRIS: We understand your question. Let us answer the first part first. In almost all of the religious cultures on your planet, there (are) references to angelic or divine types of beings that assist humans. The Judeo Christian world view has its angles and arch angles and so on. Other cultures have their variants. But all religious cultures have these descriptions to one degree or another. These are hugely representations and distortions of the source of those very individuals in a manner that they can understand and make sense of. It is an interpretation, but one that works for them at this point in time. Does that make some sense to you?

TOM: Yes, I was drawing that conclusion that these voices – or the information may be coming from the source self.

KRIS: There is also, in line with your friends accomplishments that your friend was highly intuitive and could communicate with her own future selves, those aspects of self that would have already followed a similar path of development, and simply provided assistance.

TOM: Oh, Ok.

KRIS: As to ethical and moral issues along those lines – you are perceiving these from the ego’s perspective, thinking that someone had an unfair advantage. But is the advantage unfair? Or is it that perhaps many others have simply refused to believe that such advantages could be possible for themselves?

TOM: Yes, I agree. I understand that. Can I expand on that question a little?

KRIS: Please feel free to do so.

TOM: If one were interested in bringing forth what you call the loving technologies into society, are there any moral or ethical issues (involved in) getting the information from someone like yourself as apposed to getting it directly from ones source via dreams and intuitions? Or do you see that as one in the same – from your perspective?

KRIS: However it is interpreted. Consider some of the most brilliant minds in your civilization. Einstein was highly intuitive, Nikola Tesla highly intuitive, made great use of his imagination, to the point where he could build devices only in his mind’s eye, and (then) do them physically almost copy perfect. Buckminster Fuller and so many others throughout your history have had great success utilizing their faculties – even to their higher faculties – that we would refer as higher intelligence – authentic intelligence. Not to say that those who do not utilize (their higher faculties) are of a lesser intelligence.

But there are ways to recombine the so called separation of emotions, feelings, intuition, imagination from the logical rational mind. Those divisions are artificial and in truth they work best together, and when they work together – when the divisions have been taken down like the great wall of Berlin – and the elements of the personality are able to recombine and function together then you have access to a higher state of intelligence – an emotional intelligence – that can be as rational but as perceptive. And fulfillment becomes then, something that is no longer elusive, but factual.

TOM: There is an acquaintance I met years ago at a conference. I recently read that he received channeled information to build a device. (The channel spoke for a deceased great inventor). I know that this person did his best to understand the technical information. I was wondering if this (situation) is authentic and are great inventors out there wanting to divulge knowledge of their inventions and technologies to make the planet a better place – through people that channel?

KRIS: Indeed. Over the centuries, members of your race have often consulted alternative sources of information to obtain the materials, the intent being to better the condition of the human race. Some individuals may have a better predisposition to do the exploration on their own through the use of their dreams – when their consciousness is allowed sufficient freedom to travel to other realities – other probabilities where situations have evolved differently, where technologies may have evolved in a manner unlike yours – and they have allowed themselves to remember. And it is in the training – it is to allow the remembering.

TOM: Ok, so basically there’s two methods of perusing that kind of information. One would be from within using intuitions, dreaming, etc. and the other would be seeking out the information.

KRIS: Indeed, these are some of the methodologies available to your species.

TOM: On another topic, I have a question about world peace. Now, in some of Seth’s teachings he had mentioned the nature of probabilities. When I look at the nature of creativity through (the auspice of) infinite probabilities, when I think about limiting probabilities – the conclusion I draw is that you can’t limit probabilities. Now, from your perspective – if all dimensions, all probabilities were peaceful and utopian realities – is that even possible in the larger scope of things? Or does there always have to be realities where there is war?

KRIS: Not all realities have to have war. But there must always be some allowance for certain degrees of conflicts. Very many people are of the idea that to have a peaceful world and a peaceful culture, everyone must be on an even keel, everyone must be placid and wear a half smile all the time and never a harsh emotion ever expressed. And such would make for a boring world. There must always be some leeway allowed for the fluctuation of emotional expressions – up to and including individuals using their own free will to take another life. However, that does not mean that such actions are necessarily desirable, nor that such individuals would necessarily get off the hook. They would still have to abide by the laws of their realities for taking human life. And they would have to deal with their own remorse, whether in that life or after that life.

TOM: Hmmm, I was thinking more in terms of the reality that were in now, found peace, world peace and lived in peace, would necessarily another reality need to be born – almost like the focuses (personalities) are going through levels … to provide that experience for others (to learn from) … to keep a balance. So if this became a utopian society – and not necessarily as an effect – well I get the feeling that not all worlds CAN change to utopian societies.

KRIS: Indeed. Because the idea of a utopian society as it is often envisioned where the tiger will lay beside the lamb is often a naive interpretation. There might still be occasional scuffles and emotional outbursts. But it is possible to at least achieve an awareness of what is functional.

TOM: So what we’re doing is were learning, were taking and experimenting.

KRIS: Indeed. You are experimenting, and you will continue to experiment. You have experimented as a race with various types of governments. You’ve instilled Monarchies and you saw that though, generally Monarchies have the potential to be beneficial, there is also the potential for great harm. You then experimented with communism, collectively thinking that if everyone is treated equal, then obviously, equality will reign. But you saw that simultaneously, you cannot eliminate duplicity. And those that sought to govern equally ascertain that some groups were more equal than others because of the various belief structures involved in human experimentation, mainly with duplicity. Now you are attempting, through the use of capitalism to instill a different order, and you have already concluded that this is not much different from the previous two – each have their pros and their cons. And you will continue experimenting with other forms.

You do understand however that a certain respect of the individual is paramount. Once that is squashed then you can be guaranteed a type of anarchy in the social structure – for the social structure to try and find an even keel once again. So you go through these social upheavals on a periodic basis making adjustments, refinements – fine tuning, enhancing. But no one system can possibly be expected to be the dominate system. You will all function best with a variety of systems – but that there be one thing in common through out all – that is the respect for the integrity of the individual.

This will take time. You must keep in mind that if you have 26 billion individuals on your planet, as a random number, then your world is comprised of 26 billion different realities – with all of the implications that that implies. The one common denominator in all of this is that the individual is at the core – the individual is not the core – is at the core. There is a distinction here. The reality is unique to each, but you also exist in a consensus reality. So your private realities also find a common ground for you all to share your humanity. That is in some respects an incredible, ingenious feat of creativity. To take into consideration the entire collective array of belief potential, and to give it a forum within which it can be expressed at least to a great degree. This arena that you call physical reality is indeed a marvelous creation. Does that make sense?

TOM: Yes it does. Ok, I thank you for discussing my questions. Now my friend here – she has some questions about her life. I know that you don’t make predictions for people and that you like to try and help people work through things.

KRIS: Indeed. Now before we switch programs so to speak, we would like to offer you an expression of your Essence name.

TOM: Whoa, I appreciate that – thank you.

KRIS: It is not necessarily the name – but an intonation of that energy. For you that is Desiré.

TOM: (spelled) D-E-S- E -R-E-Y?

KRIS: The spelling could easily be desire – but with a French flair.

TOM: Well thank you. Now, my friend is here and she would like for me to speak for her.

KRIS: As you wish. She is quite shy?

TOM: Yes, she’s a little shy. She finds herself with a strong bond to another man she met several years ago. She spent some time with him and she fell in love about 3 years ago. In her mind she believes that this bond exists – that they’ve been together before – and that they are will be together in the future in this life. That has been her main focus. She just waits and waits for him. She believes that some day he will end the relationship that he’s in (with another woman) and marry her and everything is going to be great. She spends a lot of time and energy. She is wondering if waiting for this man is the right thing to do.

KRIS: How long do you believe it takes for a forest to grow? Not a tree, but a forest.

TOM: Many, many years?

KRIS: Indeed, perhaps decades and centuries. If you were to wait for said forest to grow – you would wait a very long time. We believe that your friend will wait a very long time for what she often obsesses about. She is putting her own life on hold for a situation that will not occur.

TOM: Will not occur.

KRIS: Indeed not. This does not invalidate the fact that they have shared focuses before; they have shared experiences in other lifetimes. But it does not mean that this lifetime will see a similar closeness.

TOM: I see. Could you elaborate on perhaps one of her more significant lifetimes with this man?

KRIS: We are not 100% certain of the South Asian country involved. But this is an enormous vast temple complex in a jungle that is accessible to tourists. It is Buddhist. Both were involved in the contemplations – the contemplative life in this large center. There are enormous sculptures in this complex. It is very vast.

Both were male. This is approximately the 12th century. Both were male and in spite of their own religious vows they developed a deep attraction to each other. It was a cause of great consignation and guilt to both. But at the same time, they felt that it was near to impossible to stay apart from each other. Eventually they decided to leave the order and the place of worship, to give up their lives as monks and contemplatives.

They were however, not so lucky as to continue the life they chosen together. Because of a third individual who had an attraction to one of them and could no longer endure that he was going to be deprived of the presence of the other, decided to arrange to have them robbed and killed. It was a tragic ending to that lifetime. But the emotional intensities experienced and the peaks and valleys experienced emotionally, psychologically in that lifetime were quite profound. And the attraction she felt to he friend immediately brought up to the surface many of those ancient bonds, so to speak.

But in this lifetime it will not bear fruit. And we are strongly advised that a recognition of the reality of the situation be taken – an assessment of her situation presently – and to no longer put her own life on hold for a situation that will not occur. Even though she may have strong feelings, there are others that she can develop those feelings for in another way, unique to another relationship. But this one she must – as is often said – bite the bullet. And as painful as it may be, the pain is temporary. And to develop first and foremost an appreciation for her own abilities, and to not depend on another to be loved, but instead to first to cultivate a loving relationship with her own self as a means of fulfillment – to draw to herself someone who is able to reciprocate equally. And not to draw to herself someone that will use her. Do you understand?

TOM: Yes.

KRIS: We realize that such situations are difficult to accept – it is easier to deny that this will be the case. But in the long run it is healthier to accept the reality, and to move on.

TOM: Ok. She also has one other question. She had a dream of this man and in that dream she saw a daughter they were going to have…

KRIS: That is a probability. Do you follow?

TOM: Yes.

KRIS: That is a probability. It is not reality in THIS creation.

TOM: Oh, it does exist as a probability but it is not reality…

KRIS: Indeed.

TOM: So it’s not a future probability for her in this reality… it’s an offshoot (parallel probability)

KRIS: That is correct.

TOM: In that particular probability is she married to this man and is she happy?

KRIS: Indeed. But you can not make a life here based upon a life somewhere else.

TOM: Yes, she can think about it sometimes…

KRIS: Indeed. She can hold it dear to her heart (and know) deep in her being that in another probability – that relationship that does not exist here – has unfolded somewhere else, where the married man is not committed to anyone else.

TOM: In this reality she needs to draw to herself – through loving herself – a whole new relationship where she can get married and have a family.

KRIS: Indeed. Have you ever explored – examined how a sculpture draws a David or a Venus di Milo from a block of stone?

TOM: No, but I believe they see it in their mind first…

KRIS: Indeed. They believe that the final creation already exists in that block – it is merely a matter of revealing it. And although the analogy is somewhat crude, we believe this can be useful to your friend. That she knows that she has a loving relationship and a family in the future. That she must out of the present carve that relationship – draw it to her.

TOM: Ok, I guess she’ll have to work on that – she’s rather stubborn at times.

KRIS: Indeed. It is easier to flow with the current than against it. It is less tiring. And we believe that she has an anger that she needs to remove – anger towards self – towards her own self.

TOM: Yes, there are quite a few people that comment on how mean she is. She is a dear friend…

KRIS: She has disappointment toward her own self. Therefore, when she’s angry towards others, it is a reflection of her not wanting to face her own angers. Does that make sense to you?

TOM: It makes sense to me, yes.

KRIS: Others are not responsible for her reality – which means that she is responsible for her reality. In so many words, as a bottom line: What she would benefit greatly from – is to fall in love. Not with another at this point in time. But simply to fall in love with love – and then let someone come and match the vibration. Do you follow that?

TOM: Yes, I’ll spend some time talking to her about that.

KRIS: Indeed.

TOM: Ok, well I believe that’s it for our time here. Is there anything else you would like to say Kris?

KRIS: We would suggest that your friend developed a meditative mood – a time of meditation during the day, even if nothing more than 5 minutes. And during those meditations, concentrate on loving energies towards herself.

TOM: Well Kris, we thank you for your time.

KRIS: The pleasure and honor is ours – and again, we thank you for your kind consideration – both. We will return Joseph to you now.

(Session ends)

Communications Era / Communications Error

October 17, 2005

Kris Chronicles
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Ellen Gilbert (Kwaa’Ji)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on October 17, 2005
Copyright 2005 Avion Rising, Inc.

Roll call: In Toronto: Serge (Joseph), Mark (Philip), John (Sohars), Myrna (Shara-Leene)

In Castaic: Paul H. (Janaki), Paul T. (Antolian), Jene (Mildor)

In Oregon: Norm (Ambrose), Reta (Leihuu), and Janie

[ELLEN’S NOTES: Pre-talk consisted of a recap of the two previous group sessions, including the last Dinner & A Dead Guy.]

MYRNA: Last week we had a session with Kris here in Toronto, and one of the things that came up was the tool of asking a question “what would happen if?” and so, either something we desire or an event presents itself and the question is, “what would happen if?” and using this tool, what it’s done is help us identify not just the beliefs that we want — the beliefs through which we want things to manifest — but it also brings up belief systems that may in fact hinder getting what we want. So Abraham talks about “what if?” but Kris has suggested the question “what would HAPPEN if?” So John and I have been playing with that this week.

MARK: With success.

MYRNA: Yes, with success, exactly. The other thing that came up for me was something that I shared with Kris and that was I really “get” in my core that I create my own reality. I really understand that I’m much more than a focal personality called Myrna. My frustration is that I get into automatic responses and so I’ll watch myself — something will come up and I know it intellectually — I should be going out into the Heroic dimension, I should be applying the tool of whatever — but I, you know, this is in the middle of an automatic reaction, and I’m way down that path already, and it’s hard to back up.

I think the hardest thing that I have to accept is that it’s as simple as believing that I’m a Goddess who walks this earth — and in the discussion with Kris last week, it’s simple and not easy — I have such difficulty trusting that it could be that simple! In fact, this is what I’d like to talk to Kris about: what do I do with that knowledge? It’s like, all right, the power sits right here in me to create my reality — it boggles my mind, because I’m not sure what to do with that!

JOHN: Maybe simply acknowledging it. Do you remember Kris saying that you’re a pretty amazing person and he’s happy to be in your presence? And you worked your way through that, and as Kris commented you said finally, okay I can get that. Well it only took ten minutes this time, to get there… so let’s make it five minutes next time! (Laughs)

MYRNA: That’s just such a mind work — from powerlessness to power.

Paul recaps his discussion with Kris concerning his aspect of Essence Dhong Jak Taa and projection experience (Kris once again addresses that experience later in tonight’s session) and how it plays off of Myrna’s point about being a goddess in flesh and all of the possibilities available in the dream realm as a wide-open frontier for exploration.

(Session begins at 8:00 PM)

KRIS: Interesting question! What does one do with Goddess power? You bake a hell of a big cake! (Group laughter) All in jest.

The question on going from powerlessness to powerful is again only in your interpretation, and it is highly significant because it shows the swing of the pendulum from one belief structure to another. But one cannot play the drama of powerlessness unless one is ascertained of that powerfulness and is willing, even if temporarily, to suspend it in order to uncover the extent to which one is willing to experiment with the novelty of lack of power. Does that make sense at some level?

(Yes)

You cannot divest yourself of something you do not possess and being in one’s power — in one’s element, in one’s moment, in one’s experience — implies the full spectrum of all of the qualities that are already embedded and nested within the constitution of one’s own consciousness, and so we say from our pulpit, does THAT make sense?

(Yes)

So whenever you encounter, not your beliefs, but the realization, the recognition, the admission of where you are situated in your belief structures — in their architecture of self –and are willing to admit that at this moment you are focusing on subjective issues that may be with powerlessness, poverty, illness and other issues concerning the struggles of the human condition, it should indicate to you that you would not be situated at that particular crossroads if you already did not possess — we are hoping this is well-worded — you MUST recognize that issues of LACK are where you are situating your present belief structures.

You cannot have LACK, you are Essence! That is a fully loaded statement, but Essence does not have lack, focus does not have lack, unless it CHOOSES. It is not Essence that chooses for focus. That is an indelible quality of free will where focus can choose to experiment with issues concerning the human condition. You always have all of the necessary qualities, quantities at your disposal. The long-term goals of your experimentation with the human focus and the life threads that you bring into your play may indeed deal with issues that appear as “lack of”: lack of power, lack of health, lack of financial resources, trickling down into all of the struggles of the human condition, poverty and so on and so forth.

At that subjective level, you have at your disposal all of the qualities inherent within Essence, and prosperity, wellness, resources, and so on and so forth, are translated through the filters of your own belief structures. That is why you engage often discourses and even heated debates with Essences because you subjectively recognize that somehow or other you have situated yourselves at a specific spot within the constitution of your own belief structures and you need clarification, you need to illuminate your own path.

And in some humble manner we are a reflection of that illumination. And as you gather your knowledge and understandings and you reveal to yourselves whom and what you are, you do indeed awaken to the recognition that your beliefs, your preferences, your convictions are not the culprits. You will also come to the understanding that you have not failed nor are you flawed because of the beliefs that you concentrate upon, that indeed you are experimenting and pushing the boundaries of your own knowledge with the understanding that beneath the surface of the apparent iniquities there is indeed a POWERFUL foundation, a constitution so STRONG that all you need do is direct the focus of your attention to any set of beliefs for them to be manifested.

Again, this is easier said than done, but the premise exists that just as easily as you suspend your beliefs about abundance and well-being and so on, so can you suspend your disbeliefs in those same areas. When you are focusing on issues such as “Woe is me, I am impoverished! Woe is me, I have poor relationships! Woe is me, I am unloved!” — and the list can be quite long, and Santa Claus can confirm! — You are basically disbelieving in your own inner wealth, freedom, abundance, love and so on.

It is as if you were reading only the left-hand pages of a novel, claiming then that this story does not make sense! There are apparent gaps and discrepancies! But then you recognize that you have been reading only left-hand pages, so then you begin to read only right-hand pages and you find the same struggles! But if you come to that realization, then you can begin to read right and left, and right and left, tell an actual conclusion of the story and the book, then things make sense to you. Does THAT make sense to you?

JOHN: Yes, a lovely analogy.

KRIS: Indeed, we are aware that what we have said may sound somewhat critical, but the purpose is to assist you in recognizing that very often the complaints are only because of what your senses tell you. And though many individuals may claim that they are impoverished for they do not have the financial resources to buy the hundred-foot yacht and to sail around the world at one’s whim. They may focus so much on such issues, that they forget that they have the wealth of friends. They may have wealth in other terms, but they will suspend for the sake of focusing on that one issue.

And this is merely an example, even if a rather impoverished one. But the point is that if you learned — actually enchanted yourselves with the mystery of who and what you are, as easily as you enchant yourselves when you read fairy tales — the mysteries would reveal themselves to you to your great joy. Does that make sense?

(Yes)

Which brings about another interesting subject along those lines; for indeed not only are each of your lives anecdotal to a fairy tale, but your entire collective existence is a magnificent CODEX of an adventure in consciousness. And each historical period may represent specific books of a large library filled with this enormous codex, and each civilization that springs and dies within one or more historical period can then be seen as specific parts of one or more books within this large codex. And your own nations which rise and fall with the tides of history can also be considered those chapters that make up the books in this large library of codex. And each of your individual lives are the characters in this almost incomprehensively cosmic codex.

Now imagine a universal library that contains collections of codex in infinite number and none of various libraries of this codex, none of the books — their sections and chapters and paragraphs and sentences and characters — is dry, dead print, but instead VIBRANT and LIVING energy! This indeed may represent only one specific adventure of consciousness and hopefully none of you will start reading the entire library, because you will be overdue!

Consider then that there are innumerable tomes, entire sets of these writings, these living dynamic writings, which live themselves through YOU on a daily constant basis, because you choose to express this living knowledge. And all of it is done with your cooperation in one way or another because through your persona, you give this knowledge an interpretation it cannot possibly obtain otherwise. It may give you a small indication in this analogy of what is before you, what is within you, what you are about, from a different perspective. Now are your library cards are up to date, and everyone is still plugged in?

(Yes)

Now what is the time?

MARK: 8:24

KRIS: Now we will give you a small break, and –

Norm interrupts saying that they cannot hear on their end, though it was fine in the beginning, then they lost Kris’ delivery. Paul and his group also lost a great deal of the transmission, saying that Kris’ voice became softer towards the end. All agree to go to break to try to resolve the issue. It is believed that the troubles may be because Serge and Mark are using an internet connection due to their recent move, and their inability to as of yet have their land connection installed.

(Break at 8:25)

A few remedies are attempted to improve reception, including hanging up and reconnecting, to no avail. General consensus is that the internet connection is the culprit.

(Session resumes at 8:40 PM)

KRIS: (Long pause, then LOUDLY). We thought that we could communicate telepathically, but no one is listening! (Group laughter) We will do our best to not whisper. Now can the friends at the other end of the phone line hear this?

(Murmurings from Oregon, Castaic says that the sound is vague.)

(Loudly) Now all of you are experimenting with some issues, obviously concerning communication. What kind of messages are you simultaneously allowing through and disallowing? (Long pause) That was a question.

MYRNA: (Group giggles) We’re thinking about it!

JOHN: Well, we’re getting messages, about communications not coming through.

MARK: Also, we’re allowing to hear ourselves, but we’re not allowing to hear others. (Group laughter) Each of us are in our own little world.

KRIS: Please continue. Do others have ideas?

MYRNA: My voice seems to be so loud, that it is in fact blanking out the other voices and it may be that I don’t want to hear the other voices!

MARK: Is it that we are so focused on our own little worlds, that we are ignoring those inner dialogs, those conversations, those voices in our heads, our communications with self and beyond?

MYRNA: To Mark’s point, I don’t think I trust myself to have a communication with Essence and I don’t think I trust — you know I get hits of intuition, often — and I don’t trust…that…this is real…I don’t know what is real by the way, Kris, but I don’t trust that I have an open-minded communication with you, for example, when we’re sitting here together. If I were honest, I’m really skeptical at times that this is all real. It’s a real leap of faith for me!

MARK: Well, then this is all your fault! (Referring to the communication snafu) (Raucous laughter)

KRIS: What about California?

PAUL H.: Well, we needed a scapegoat, and now we have Myrna so everything is fine! (Laughter)

KRIS: It is a good thing that there are no goat kennels around here!

PAUL H: We have some thunder and lightning going on around here which is very interesting. I would add that before the session started, I was talking about Dhong Jak Taa and in terms of Essence communication and I completely trust that. To me it’s completely real, so I don’t have a trust issue with that communication in the sense that Myrna was just expressing. Obviously I am not completely open to Essence communication in terms of remembrance of Essence, but I’m making progress towards that, so I’m happy.

MYRNA: Good! (Group laughter)

NORM: My issues with communication are not on the physical level. I know that it’s from a subjective level, when I’m not hearing something, I have trust that there’s a reason behind it, I don’t necessarily objectively know what that is, but I trust that when I need the information it will be there…I guess I have faith in recording devices.

MARK: Oregon?

[MARK’S NOTES: It was difficult to understand what Norm was talking about and it appeared that he was talking about something else. Having the transcript in front of me proves otherwise. Most of the conversation in the next part is overlapping as people can’t hear each other and are starting conversations amongst themselves.]

JOHN: That was Oregon, wasn’t it?

MYRNA: Yeah, that was Oregon.

(General murmurings — inaudible)

KRIS: Does Oregon have any ideas?

PAUL H.: Your turn, Oregon.

RETA: Could we get a solution from the source — meaning Kris — and could we get sound tape ability for the rest of us? What does Kris have to say about how things could be improved on the sending and receiving end?

MARK: Oregon, can you hear me?

NORM: I can hear YOU.

MARK: Do you have any idea what you are expressing in the form of communication issues?

NORM: I’m totally out of it. I’m unable to enter into a conversation here because I can’t hear at the other end where you are at.

MARK: Paul, can you fill him in?

NORM: I can hear Myrna. I can hear Paul and Mark, but I do not understand Kris, and neither does Janie or Reta.

JENE: Norm, this is Jene. Do you remember some of the sessions that we had with Elias at Vic’s house, and we had difficulty in this same way with Elias communicating and it was kind of thunderous and lightning and different types of weather patterns and Elias let us know that it was difficult — it’s thick enough to get to us — [through the] atmosphere — do you remember any of that?

RETA: No, I’m not sure that I do.

JENE: You don’t remember that?

NORM: No, I don’t really remember that.

PAUL H.: Remember the Genetics session? It was around the 170′s back in April-May of ’97 and –

RETA: Boy, you’ve got a good memory!

PAUL H.: There’s a session that’s not published; it’s now an X-file because of extreme energy interference and Elias gave information on genetics and DNA and Norm, you were kind of leading some of that conversation.

NORM: I’m getting old, I guess.

JENE: No. No. No! Don’t say that! I do remember you being there, though Norm, because I had expressed and shared that with Paul before and Elias was almost speaking as though…uh, his tone was so deep, and none of us could even hardly understand –

NORM: Oh! I think I do now –

JENE: It’s coming back to you?

NORM: Yeah, you’re triggering memories here.

JENE: Okay, good –

NORM: Is Kris saying it’s the same effects as what’s occurring now…?

JENE: Well, I don’t know if that’s what Kris is saying but that was what was coming to my mind, that often-times the atmospheric situation and some of the genetics has a bit to do with this, because prior to this, the last few times I was here, we all could hear just fine — I mean we had a little disturbance, but it wasn’t a big deal — this seems to be a big deal.

(General agreements)

NORM: Well, where are we right now?

PAUL H.: We’re riffing on communications issues.

JENE: Yeah, we’re just kind of investigating with communication, with the imagery of either lack of communication or distance in communication is taking place.

PAUL H.: Mark and Serge have moved to a new apartment, their phone is not connected yet, at least not the normal way –

NORM: Are they still on the line?

PAUL H.: Yeah.

JENE: They’re listening to us, our psychobabble.

MYRNA: Well, it’s very interesting. Keep going!

JENE: (Laughs) it’s true, you know? It could be a giant step into another part of the process of this whole thing as it was with Elias, I mean [there was] an accelerated movement after that thickness and we were then given a whole lot more information about ourselves and the atmosphere and what we were choosing to incorporate objectively and subjectively, and what we were not willing to listen to.

PAUL H: We’re identifying physical, mental and spiritual layers of this communication process.

JENE: There you go, Paul said it well.

PAUL T: Kris, would you care to comment on that observation?

KRIS: Indeed. We can assure you that this is not about Mercury going retrograde! (Group chuckles) It has to do with where you are situated on the map of your own belief structures. Very specifically: information from different layers of your own consciousness is attempting to reach your own conscious perceptions. Each one of you — whether in California, Oregon, or Toronto, and each individual that will listen to, and/or read the transcript, whether in one week, one year, or one hundred years — at that moment is traveling into an area of personal consciousness that is somewhat nebulous, and quite possibly contains electro-magnetic interference due to the manner in which you are accustomed to filtering information.

Each one of you is on a threshold, a particular LEDGE that will open up your perceptions in another manner specifically concerning what we described earlier on about your belief maps, the manner in which you utilize those junctions or juxtapositions of beliefs to alter the course of your existence; not only — and many times not even in — a physical manner, but at the subjective level that will influence the outcome of your thought patterns.

You are attempting to re-arrange some neurological pathways in your own communications with Essence. This may also catapult you into yet another kind of understanding and vision about your relationship with the world, and more specifically with the world of yourself. You have discovered that the physical world, your thoughts, even your emotions, your feelings, your mental imagery is all of that: imagery. It communicates. Now you are ready to attempt a different experiment in this inner communications. Your dreams may convey different and even new symbols. Your understanding of other people, other situations, world events, local events, personal events, may even take on a different meaning.

We have discussed over the last few weeks, life threads and Essence tapestries, which in so many words is the psychological backdrop of your own experiments and experiences of your life journey. And now you may have the opportunity to widen your awareness of self in relationship to that very background. It is often said that you cannot see the forest for the trees, but this may indeed lead you into not only seeing the trees and the forests but the entire valley and mountains that are part of the landscape. Each of you is struggling at this point in time with similar episodes concerning the communication of imagery, whether in your daily life, your emotional life, or otherwise. And this session is an attempt to bring you to recognize this through the imagery of the group communication. Does that make sense?

PAUL T.: Perfect!

PAUL H.: Yes.

KRIS: Oregon are you understanding?

(Pause)

MARK: Do you understand that, Norm?

NORM: No….I mean I don’t think there’s any…we’re just not hearing any of it.

RETA: The tone of the sound coming through sounds like it’s coming through a wall. I mean it comes on and off, on and off. So there’s some sound there that isn’t consistent.

JENE: I was getting some of that too. This is Jene.

RETA: Did you hear that too, Jene?

JENE: I did, yes. I would get about three or four words and I would get a slur, where it wasn’t audible in terms of my understanding of the word. It was kind of resonating subjectively but, objectively I wasn’t getting….

NORM: I was trying to pop my ears with my hands to increase the volume…I’m sorry, I mean…

RETA: I don’t think it’s only volume, it’s more of a sound wave coming in and out –

JENE: Yeah, I agree with Reta, it’s not necessarily the volume, because the volume is quite good on my headset, but I agree it may be in an energy wave that’s distorting by the time it reaches us.

RETA: Yeah, so when it does that in the middle of a thought, we can’t hear that very important word –

JENE: RIght — is it you can’t hear the word, or you don’t understand it?

RETA: I don’t understand it.

JENE: Yeah, I can hear what he’s saying, and the tone, but I can’t understand the word. Well, this happens every once in a while, not all the time, but we certainly had this with Elias, and we were sitting in the room…so I think…well, this is just me but, I think most of us got the gist what he was trying to offer to us.

KRIS: We are suggesting that Philip send the wave file of this session to each one for your own immediate review to recognize where you stand with YOUR issues, and none of this should be considered a failing on your part to hear properly, but instead to take this as an opportunity to reveal a new threshold of understanding from your own inner communications. Do you follow that?

(Yes)

KRIS: Now, Janaki…

JENE: Janaki…Paul, Kris is calling you!

PAUL H.: Yes, yes sir!

KRIS: Now we know why you cannot hear! (Group laughter) Now then, you had some observations about your aspect of Essence.

PAUL H.: Yes I did. Did you want me to share that again?

KRIS: Indeed.

PAUL H.: In our last Dinner and a Dead Guy three weeks ago I shared a lucid dream with you and you, as part of your interpretation, pointed out an aspect of Essence which you gave a name to: Dhong Jak Taa, and pointed out to me that this was a guide aspect that was helping to facilitate my own — what I would call subtle realm or astral experience of development there — and I told the group before the session that in the past three weeks I have explored that during my meditations daily.

It took over a week before I got comfortable with the name itself, it was hard to remember at first, and I noticed that, and I simply sensed that as a resistance to something new, putting a label on an energy signature — and lo and behold, around the second or third week, uh, I would call out, “what’s that name?” and it would come right to me so that I have through that practice — the dream yoga practice that I do — has made that easier, and I have not had any big breakthrough that I can remember in the morning of imagery of this, because it’s a pretty deep layer to connect with, but it’s been a lot of fun, and I’m deeply appreciative of that pointing out of that, so I’m making progress somewhat.

KRIS: Indeed, the intonation: Dhong Jak TAA, IS very powerful, specifically the very last [syllable].

PAUL H.: I have tried it as a mantra meditation and I have not gotten over the hump, into that zone with it, but I will continue using it in that fashion, and I will put an emphasis on the last syllable also, which was something I wondered about.

KRIS: Indeed, in many respects, THIS FIFTH AGE OF MANKIND, specifically, is utilized and created by everyone participating in it to enhance communications, but in a UNIQUE fashion, not attempted in any other age but this one. So it can be considered the “Age of Communication”. If you examine this age and its accomplishments, you will see that communications have been the moving factor in how the world changes and evolves, how it is transformed. Some may say that commerce is the driving force, others may say it is finances, or politics, but these are the EFFECTS, for without communications you may not have all of these issues and some time back we spoke about soundlets. Do you recall this?

MARK: I already thought of that, yeah.

KRIS: This particular age is unique in its manifestation of communications specifically with the way language has been exchanged, and even more so since the invention of the printing press. Before the invention of the printing press, knowledge, communication, was obtained in a small circle of the elite and the powerful because their power was derived by their ability to manage and control knowledge and communication. Information, with the invention of the printing press — even though writing had already been invented — the printing press transformed the flow of information as easily the internet today has transformed the flow of information. Consider the printing press the medieval version of the internet, without ISP’s! Does that make sense?

(Yes)

All of these communications are your interpretations of deeper forms of exchanges having to do with Source or Essence in the manner in which you wish to communicate YOUR inner conversations with Essence, with other human beings. Over time this information in itself becomes distorted and is utilized for various means, some not entirely altruistic, but it is communication, nonetheless. Over time, the communications lose the original intent and as such, its original power eventually fails, and your civilization has become far too accustomed to interpret communications in almost entirely black and white terms, forgetting the nuances that give the communications their flavor, and their very reason for being.

Even you all tend to look at the events and the conditions of your lives and claim that you have chosen certain actions — certain rajas — because you think you might want to experience that event, or this event, or another event. But that is only a very narrow, even short-sighted, interpretation of the GREATER communication that is being established with the events and circumstances of your lives, because these ALSO are communications.

And as you dig deeper and delve into those subjective nuances that make up the large part of your being, you begin to discover the scope and the breadth and the height and the depth of your being goes way beyond those short-sighted interpretations that you have grown accustomed to. And your visions of being are in the process of transformations and this session this evening may very well illustrate that for each of you personally. It is said in reference to Essence name intonations, that they are just that: an intonation, one interpretation of many different tones. Your own lives are themselves one interpretation of so much more.

The intonation that we gave to Janaki, aspect of Essence Dhong Jak Taa, has a powerful energy that all of you can benefit from, especially the very last inflection. Now, what we would like to do is give you a booster shot, if you like, an injection of energy through that very last inflection. All you need do, is open your ears, both outer and inner ears, even if only for a moment and allow the sound to go through you like the wind goes through the clouds and when you go to sleep tonight try and remember that sound and direct it as if you were pointing a laser into the direction where you think you go for your dreams.

[MARK’S NOTES: Kris vocalizes TAA in a very long tonal meditation. We would normally insert it here, but as you know the communications were off and the recording isn’t the best.](Pause) How are you responding?

RETA: That was our booster shot. Is that correct?

KRIS: We hope that you heard.

PAUL H.: It worked for me!

RETA: He said use the sound like a booster shot, like when we are going to bed at night and lay in bed correctly and focus like a laser beam toward our dreams, is that correct?

PAUL H.: Correct. And you can feel it trailing off, a narrowing, as you approach that veil. That’s the only way I can translate it.

MARK: I had this really wonderful sensation where it went inwards and outwards at the same time, it went up, it went down, it went concentric, it reverberated within, it reverberated through, and out.

KRIS: Now, what is the time?

MARK: 9:23.

KRIS: When you read this session or listen to it again, we encourage you to pay particular attention to the threads that you weave into your daily experiences and follow those threads into the experiences of other focuses as they interpret that thread, just as you interpret their threads and experiences in your lives. And you will begin to see the connections that also exist at Essence level with the experiences that flow out of each of your moments. Now are there questions?

PAUL H.: I just have a follow-up question on this aspect, of just TAH aspect. Mark and Paul Tews asked me some questions, and I’m wondering is this another Essence body that is connected to my larger construct of Essence body? In other words, it is a separate Essence tone from Janaki, right?

KRIS: Indeed, that is correct.

PAUL H.: A separate, so-called separate, distinct Essence tone — is that then one of the Essence bodies that makes up my larger construct?

KRIS: That would be consistent. It is not limited to the perceptions of Janaki, but is bigger still. What you experienced through that energy of aspect has threads that can lead you into discovering other Essence bodies. Do you understand the premise of that concept?

PAUL H.: I do, yes. Let me ask you another thing, Kris. The first encounter I had with this aspect — and I just looked this up in my dream journal, because I had forgotten — the message that he gave to me was “First, let’s reduce the number of aspects.” It was a somewhat cryptic saying that I never rationally, fully understood, although I interpreted it generally to mean that I was making things more complicated than they needed to be and to just simplify the tone, simplify the focus as I continued in those dream yoga practices.

KRIS: Indeed.

PAUL H.: So I’m wondering what your comment would be on that communication, and my interpretation of it.

KRIS: And this was approximately seven or eight years ago?

PAUL H.: Uh, about that, uh…yes! Yeah, about seven years ago.

[MARK'S NOTES: Paul was quick to later point out that there was no way that Serge or Mark could have possibly known that time frame.]

KRIS: Look at the manner in which you were wanting to understand material then, and how you understand it today, and indeed by simplifying the approach, you have now become able to return to a complexity that is not going to be as distorted.

PAUL H.: That makes sense… Long journey.

KRIS: But a most necessary one. This is how many individuals actually get lost in their ability to translate communications from Essence intuiting those larger constructions into the multidimensional aspects, but misinterpreting the information as hierarchies of being such as exist in the many religions and religious cults. In allowing yourself to simplify the matter for the time being, you have been able to educate yourself with a solid enough foundation that you can return to a more complex presentation without getting lost in the translation.

PAUL H.: That makes sense. Less is more.

KRIS: That also enables you to appreciate the enchanting construction of consciousness that is far more complex than anything that can be built in your world. Indeed, the complex orders of constructions within nature of all kinds, including bodies — human, animal, otherwise — are reflections of a much more complex order of being. You think for instance, that a single-celled creature is all there is to that creature when you examine it in the microscope — for that is what your senses are interpreting — whilst in reality its original, non-distorted, authentic construction may be such that it is impossible for that energy to be translated otherwise into your dimension but as a single-celled creature.

You yourselves as human beings are multiplex constructions that appear in the physical world. Imagine then, the complexity of the organization of your being at these other orders of existence, other layers of existence. You barely are able to understand your own physical forms, so imagine the task of trying to understand your being outside of that forum. Does that make sense?

PAUL H.: Yes.

KRIS: And in the views of other intelligences, even YOUR non-physical construction might be viewed as simply as you view a single-celled organism, so complex are they! So we leave you to ponder the mysteries of what you think about yourselves, both at the physical and non-physical structure, and hopefully you will trust that you will not blow any fuses along the way.

PAUL H: (Chuckling) Thank you!

KRIS: And with that we leave you to the joy and enchantment of being who you are!

ALL: Thank you, Kris.

(Session ends at 9:34)

A few ideas are passed back and forth about how to remedy the phone situation. Serge explains that hopefully soon the regular phone connection will be established and they will be able to dispense with the internet phone connection. Mark tells everyone they will each receive an audio file of tonight’s session to fill in what they missed. The next Dinner & A Dead Guy is scheduled for Halloween night, and all say goodnight. Kris, however, returns to impress a few more points onto the Toronto group.

(9:47 PM Kris returns… speaking in his normal voice.)

MARK: 9:47

KRIS: Now when we spoke much more loudly about it, we omitted information simply because of necessity, but suffice it to say that there are reasons why your species came up with the notion of written language — of writing — and that is, simply put, that at some specific point in time, your species became over-immersed and enchanted with the possibilities inherent in utilizing the medium of matter for creative purposes — other than merely as an alternate dream state, and that itself is full of implication — because it says that your physical reality is another dream state, but one that you have FOCUSED upon to the exclusion of others. That is what is called “focusing”, correct?

(Right)

You focus upon this particular medium, the manner in which units of consciousness can be molded and shaped and sculpted into this type of communicative medium: physical matter — that which you refer to as physical matter, which is still consciousness — but you have shaped it in a specific manner. And up to a certain point you have full access to the entire codex of knowledge of which we spoke of earlier on. Do you remember?

MARK: Yes.

KRIS: And although not everyone is an expert you still have individuals who are capable of accessing the codex which simply is the FULL SPECTRUM OF ESSENCE, or if you wish: Essence-ship. (Group chuckles)

MARK: Essence…ship!

KRIS: As you became more attracted to working with the medium of matter to express and communicate your own ventures, your own fairy tales, you forgot more and more about the rest of the codex. As a means of preserving those communications, you collectively created the medium of writing as a means of preserving symbols which would communicate to you that information, that knowledge. Writing was not the way you understand it today. Writing was much more in the form of symbols — not unlike hieroglyphs, which would contain combinations of symbols — which themselves hold the combination which unlock large amounts of information and knowledge. Information and knowledge is not necessarily the same.

And wisdom, yet again is different from information and knowledge, but goes beyond that. Over time, as you understand it, those symbols became more and more unified and were again reduced for other simplifications and to facilitate specific communication then because there was more and more forgetfulness. That is why at this point in your history, there is what you call the “Shift” which aims to facilitate remembrance of Essence — what you have turned away from — meaning what you have NOT consciously focused upon.

MARK: Yet you also notice language and communication on the planet right now — you notice how everyone is talking about the lack of reading and writing skills and people distorting the language, and expanding the language, using slang, distorting and using new terms and moving away from the unified symbols and words.

KRIS: These are other small pockets of experimentation, many of which will die down and new languages will eventually become the main spoken language.

MARK: Another thing that I’m reminded of is a movie that Joseph and I watched, and I can’t remember the name of it now, but it was a Chinese movie — the main thing was the sword –

KRIS: Indeed, “The Flying Sword” movie.

MARK: Yes, thank you, and the character that the one individual had created for the sword — he understood to put the sword down, and then he drew this new character for the sword, and when the emperor saw it, he understood it, but not everybody did. But that character, THAT symbol, the way people looked at it, the interpretation that they got from it — I just had a remembrance of that that tied into what you were talking about.

KRIS: And again, not everyone will necessarily interpret communications in the same manner, depending upon where on the road map of belief structures they situate themselves. And this is important to keep in mind. If, for instance — you are familiar with topographical maps? –They are usually very informative at helping situate you, not only on a regular road map, but also into the landscape itself, correct?

(Correct)

Your observations are just that, your attempts to situate yourself on your own psychological, topographical map — where you stand in the midst of your own beliefs about yourself. Therefore, in such a view, you cannot be at the wrong place. You are always at the place where you are! There is no right and wrong manner to hold to belief structures! It is where you determine yourself to be, for your own reasons.

When you determine that you need to be somewhere else, then you make your trajectory through the landscape of your own psyche, which means that you are journeying psychologically, which will eventually be reflected physically in your consensus reality. So do not beat yourself about the head because you think you must conquer those devilish beliefs as if they are somehow or other keeping you lost. They are significant. Without recognizing beliefs, without acknowledging, addressing and accepting your own convictions, it becomes more difficult to turn the compass around into another direction for you to follow. Does that make sense?

(Yes)

That is all that beliefs are. They are in many ways the cardinal point on your map. You use them for direction and as a vehicle. When you recognize, this allows you to see if you determine where you might like to make the changes you deem necessary. And one still has to remain in the realm of the practical. Does that make sense?

(Yes)

Then indeed, we will leave you to your lovely map-making abilities.

MARK: (Chuckling) Thank you.

JOHN: Thank you, Kris. Again.

KRIS: Indeed. We enjoy the moments!

JOHN: So do we.

KRIS: They are significant landmarks of the map of the psyche.

MARK: Indeed, thank you. 9:59

(But this is still not the end, Kris returns once again)

KRIS: One must play the yo-yo! Now you are accustomed to finding out about the world by looking at maps, whether ancient maps, modern maps, maps on the television, maps in the book, maps on the internet — but it is about maps. Now, if you reverse that, consider the WORLD a map about yourself, and the events, circumstances and conditions of human existence spread across the globe as a kind of psychological topography. You may recognize that you are somewhere within this scheme of events. Does that make sense?

(Yes)

Now, even though it is easy to change the focus of your attention from one area of the map to another, from one set of events to another which are belief-based, still, during that transition you have to honor – key word: HONOR — the gap between leaving the OLD area and traveling towards the new area and the transitional period that exists between, but if you notice, when you travel from one shoreline to another, from one continent to another, the old shoreline still looms large on the horizon, but as your ship moves away from it, it gradually diminishes until all there is, is the ocean, until gradually way over the horizon you begin to see another landscape that eventually will loom large also, because you anticipate.

It is not that somehow or other you are getting there, but your anticipation is making that new landscape loom larger so that it becomes part of your existence. HONOR that period of transition because of the neurological functions within your being. With practice, you can indeed accelerate the process by building up confidence. TRUST that it is indeed you who are making that journey from the old landscape to the new. Does that make some sense?

MYRNA: Yes, it does.

JOHN: Lovely!

MYRNA: Yes, I like the perspective.

KRIS: Indeed!

MYRNA: Kris, Abraham talks about driftwood, so approaching the new landscape things start coming in that indicate one is starting to get closer to shore.

KRIS: Indeed. If you notice when a ship nears a new horizon one of the first indicators are seagulls, fish, perhaps debris, and so on and so forth. Over the horizon you may even see smog — a SURE indication! (Group laughter)

JOHN: While I’ve got you here, Kris –

KRIS: Who has got who here?! (Laughter) Now, please continue.

JOHN: Point taken! You mentioned that the fifth…uh –

MARK: Age of mankind.

JOHN: The fifth age of mankind was about communications, information. I’m just curious if you could rattle off the first four for us.

KRIS: At this moment in time we will humbly decline, simply because it requires a different access of trance states.

MARK: Something I’m reminded of here during your last analogy, is Bardo — paying attention to those in-between states.

KRIS: Indeed.

MARK: And our life, our physical existence is Bardo, the journey from one shore to another, as well as the journey in-between is a constant Bardo and paying attention to those in-between states.

KRIS: You may consider yourselves travelers to exotic foreign lands. The lands are all your own beliefs that you are discovering. Each land has it own brands of spices and rich cloth and other riches for you to discover.

MYRNA: I love the idea that the world is my psychological landscape. I love that.

KRIS: Indeed, and it is not merely a pretty analogy.

MYRNA: Yeah, I hear that. And as I look across, those are all my belief systems, right?

KRIS: Correct. Everything that you resolve in the world is a reflection of the beliefs of everyone within that world, but since that is YOUR world, they are all reflections, one way or another, of your own beliefs. The tendency with most people is that they will immediately pinpoint, with uncanny accuracy, all that they consider negative events, thinking that their being then is filled with negative beliefs and focus merely upon that, only increasing the sense of foreboding and fear. But in reality their lives may be far more colorful than they give themselves credit for.

MYRNA: Yeah. An example if I may?

KRIS: Indeed you may.

MYRNA: There is a belief of starvation and that’s not where I am, I like the idea of where am I located on this map — because I’m not located there — and I keep berating myself for not attracting the amount of abundance that I would like, and yet when I consider this a map, and where I’m located, I am located far from norm abundance.

KRIS: Consider that those countries and nations that suffer from impoverishment and even starvation are a physical representation for their own purposes, but in the case of the individual it would represent spiritual starvation, a deep psychological undernourishment and impoverishment. Does that make sense?

MYRNA: It does, but bring it back to me however — a starving child in Africa, for example — is me as a probability, but that’s not where I’m located.

MARK: You also have beliefs about that, but they might be distant — back in your mind so to speak — from your present focus. They’re still part of your belief system, but they’re not your focus –

MYRNA: I understand that. I think that’s helpful tonight to see this as a map — the entire world — and to locate myself, that’s really helpful when, again, when I berate myself for not being as abundant as I would like to be — well, yes I am, compared to other locations in my map. Is that correct?

KRIS: That is an astute observation. And even though all individuals in the world may or may not recognize their own beliefs in impoverishment, it does not mean that belief structures that may lead to impoverishment — or starvation in this case — are necessarily negative, because they also represent an acknowledgment — and even a breakthrough – into issues that have to do with self-resourcefulness, self-empowerment, and so on and so forth.

Between each belief structure you have bridges and they are necessary as a foundation to the world and human experience. Without them — these belief structures and all of their bridges, which creates a complex arrangement of structures — human existence would not be what you have with all of its diversities, whatever you understand the word “diversity” to mean. It is a RICH TAPESTRY of MAGNIFICENT CREATIVITY that your species has created: the belief systems as they exist. That is why we suggested to HONOR that gap between the two shorelines of your experiences. And it is quite possible that you will discover unknown islands!

JOHN: Oooooh…

KRIS: That contain oases and treasures. Any seafaring captain knows that there are always islands with buried treasure to be found! Even the pirates and with that we will leave you to your own dreams of great adventure.

MYRNA: A navigational journey.

JOHN: Thank you, Kris.

MARK: 10:14.

(Session ends for the evening).

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