Library at Alexandria (Bonus Material)

May 26, 2005

Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois
Transcribed by Marcy Singer
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on May 26 2005
© Copyright 2005 Avion Rising Inc.

Roll Call: Serge (Joseph), Mark (Philip) and John (Sohars).

[Mark’s Notes: Sometime last week, Serge and I rented "National Treasure" starring Nicholas Cage. During the movie, just after they actually find the treasure, the heroin exclaims "Look! These are scrolls from the Library of Alexandria! The Knights Templar managed to salvage them!" or something to that effect.

At that point, Serge said to me that Kris has something to say about that and that I should bring it up whenever I can.

Last Thursday evening, after the "Breathing Revolution" session, John invited Serge and I over to his house for a drink. We got to talking and somehow or other the topic switched over to that movie and the fact that Kris has something to say about it.

I remarked that "Obviously the Knights Templar DID save some of the scrolls, otherwise Kris wouldn't have wanted to comment on it."

Serge replied that that was impossible because the Knights Templar did not exist at the time of the burning of the Library of Alexandria.

Before I or anyone else could remark, Serge told me to go get the recorder because Kris was banging on the door. ]

(Discussion begins at 10:10.)

KRIS: Now we thank you for your most hospitable surroundings and to invite us into your lovely home. All the knick-knacks actually do reflect upon a most ancient time, and that is why you do collect them. They remind you not only of bygone eras, but they remind you in some ways of the many different lives that you have experienced and many of the thoughts that are still pertinent to you. In this they are almost your artifacts. Do you understand?

JOHN: I do.

KRIS: They represent the history of Sohars in some ways.

JOHN: My personal museum.

KRIS: Indeed, your unique museum of time, Sohars time.

Now, in another time there was a greater library that contained much of the written knowledge not only of its own era but of other bygone eras and civilizations. The Library of Alexandria was great, large and extensive, but much more than is historically recognized. There were vast underground chambers that were spared the scorn and fear of literalist Christians who set the place ablaze. The high priestess in charge of the library had already foreseen in her visions the impending event and had instructed the necessary people to secret many of the documents and parchments out of the area. Many of the chambers were sealed to prevent access. Some of the chambers were the end of many of the tunnels. They were sealed. As far as one hundred miles away from the original location of the library there are series of tunnels and vast antechambers that contain many of the documents.

Now, many of the documents were secreted away and traveled as far as Asia, as far as Persia, as far as Londinium, as far as the land of the Celts. Some were even secreted to America and Meso-America. There was traffic, commerce between Italians, Phoenicians and other Mediterranean nations and the Americas, much of which was completely lost afterwards.

Now many of these parchments contained information from civilizations prior even to the Babylonians. It is erroneous for your archaeologists to assume that prior to the Babylonians no one knew how to write and all that they could write with and on were clay tablets. As they have discovered, many of those clay tablets were shopping lists. Many of them recount myths and similar histories, but no secrets because that is not where the knowledge was.

Many of those parchments were originally secreted from, and there is a word for this, (pause) we will for the time being refer to the Hindustan regions, the ancient Vedic culture, and some were even from other nations who have perished previous to that, even previous to the big Ice Age. So we are looking at materials that are over 10,000 years old, as old if not older than the Sphinx from nations that existed in the ancient areas now considered to be Scandinavia, some even into North America. We believe the ancient map known as the Piri Reis map were taken from such manuscripts.

After the fire at Alexandria many of the ancient manuscripts found their way also into the vault in the Vatican. Some found themselves into the vaults of the Medici and to other great bloodlines. One of the reasons why…..we are looking for a name (Pause)……the dynasty Charlemagne belonged to had manuscripts. We can find some of these maps and some of these documents. Give us a moment. (Pause)

When the Knights Templar raided the vaults of what was called Solomon’s Temple they took away literally hoards of parchments and other treasures secreted them into many European underground chambers. Some European castles contain deeply hidden chambers that are sealed and appear to be nothing but vaults. There is a room in the Vatican that has over millennia been forgotten and it contains some of these documents as well that more or less provide evidence that what is now referred to as the Roman Catholic religion is more or less plagiarized from older beliefs. Does that make sense?

JOHN: Absolutely.

KRIS: Some of these were taken into the mountains in the Tibetan areas that unfortunately inaccessible because of Communist occupation, ancient Tibetan temples and fortresses, some of which have unfortunately been destroyed but others which have been occupied, the occupants unawares of what they are sitting on literally.

There is still so much to be described that will have to wait for another day, but suffice it to say that not everything was lost.

MARK: Were we ever part of the Knights Templar?

KRIS: (Pause) It is the type of question as you well know we are not extremely forthcoming in describing. But……many individuals who are accessing and researching and investigating so-called forbidden knowledge may very well have themselves been individuals who participated in those activities.

MARK: That is something we would do to acknowledge, preserve that lineage, that heritage, give it to the future. That’s my own impressions.

KRIS: Now. Some of the Knights Templar had read enough of the documents to understand how to manipulate certain laws of physics. Some of these documents were not only secreted into other places but into other times. Some were secreted into the future in such a manner that they eventually will, or at least some of these documents will eventually be discovered in places they were not supposed to be meant to be discovered.

MARK: Kind of like codicils?

JOHN: Exactly!

KRIS: What do you think codicils are? (Laughter)

MARK: Indeed.

KRIS: Many of these ancient Speaker’s manuscripts ended up being those very parchments stored in Alexandria as the very center of knowledge from the ancient world. We estimate that the total combined true figures, not the ones that were worked, you understand the term….

MARK: Yes, after all I did used to be an accountant.

KRIS: Indeed. There is such a thing as creative inventory as well. Our estimate of the total true warehouse contents is close to 1.5 billion documents. As far as monetary value to artifacts, that cannot be ascribed. You do not have such values in your world yet. We are speaking of an accumulated wealth from bygone eras and even bygone civilizations even prior to the Ice Age. When we refer to the Ice Age it is usually the Ice Age of 9-10 thousand years ago.

MARK: What percentage of those documents that are presently surviving in this timeline, even if they may never be discovered.

KRIS: Most likely close to, our estimation would be thirteen to fifteen thousand, still enough to change your knowledge of human history.

JOHN: That brings up a question Kris. I noticed that in a lot of the material that you present, and this is true of Seth and Elias, not so much Abe, it’s presented in an elliptical, non-linear, piecemeal, mysterious, sometimes seemingly deliberately obtuse way and I can see one reason for that which is okay, kids, you’ve got all the information and you can think it up for yourselves, figure it out yourselves. Another reason that occurs to me is that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Is it the case that these sources of information that we’re providing ourselves with through your wonderful, humble auspices are providing us information very, very carefully because the wrong kind of information in the wrong hands could create big problems?

KRIS: Indeed.

JOHN: I thought so.

KRIS: As well as you yourself have discovered you can often make the connection between Point A and Point B and your own light bulb goes on. You intuitively understand the meaning that was NOT mentioned. But indeed all too often your race has demonstrated that it can use the most benign sounding information and what is the first thing often created? Weapons, weapons of destruction. Therefore we would for instance be reluctant to describe to your race, which should by the way immediately let you know we are not of your race, if we refer to your race. Do you understand?

JOHN: Got it.

KRIS: We would be most reluctant to describe to you how to actually use specially designed fiber optic cable to extract specific molecules of energy from the sun in such a manner as you would use it to destroy your whole self. So it must be done in a fashion piecemeal like so that you could actually understand how to use it to heal.

MARK: Destroy your whole self? Is that possible?

KRIS: As a race. You have done that before. Indeed. Self can never be annihilated but your race can.

JOHN: So that’s why there’s often as you say a piecemeal, veiled presentation of the material, in fact I’d like to run something past you while we have the privilege of your presence here. You hinted, you actually supposedly said several times in the presentation of the Sisters material, you said we’ve given you some hints, you guys are like the Sisters in some ways, you guys invented the Sisters in some ways, you’re part of this, we’ve given you enough hints. No more hints. And I pondered that a little bit. And the ah-ha I got out of that was that as a focal personality John, as I’m working with the Sister imagery, there’s a certain point where I’m going to understand that the Sister energy is more who I am really than the focal personality.

MARK: It is after all a journey of self-discovery. If he gave us the whole ball of wax, A) it’s like going from A to Z instead of from A to B. The light bulbs would not necessarily click on. But he might use that ball of wax to throw at somebody.

JOHN: But there’s a difference between your light coming on and me pulling your switch.

KRIS: And indeed as you are discovering the journey IS about smelling the flowers.

JOHN: Yes. Oh, I love this quote that we were looking at earlier of just being the god/goddess and attend to your practical moment which is who you are. This is great. Thank you.

[Mark’s Notes: John has a quote from Kris that he has printed out and is on display in his livingroom.]

KRIS: Now then. We will take our leave of your lovely presences and may all of your artifacts keep speaking about you. And have a pleasant evening.

(Session ends at 10:32.)

Breathing Revolution

May 26, 2005

Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois
Transcribed by Marcy Singer
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on May 26 2005
© Copyright 2005 Avion Rising Inc.

Roll call: Serge (Joseph), Mark (Philip), Myrna (Sharaleene), John (Sohars), Lida (Miriam), Alice (Miluumea).

[Mark’s Notes: While we were waiting for Kris to drop in John was discussing his idea of putting a book together based upon the Sisters of Consciousness, the Civilization of Self and that Inner Village of aspects of self.]

(Session begins at 7:47)

KRIS: Indeed, we thank you for your consideration and we trust that not only has the day been beautiful but that it has been a reflection of your own state of mind.

(Speaking to John) Now as to your lovely idea of an inner village, you are quite welcome to pursue its development and see how that village expands and grows into a civilization. We believe you are more than up to such a challenge. Correct?

JOHN: Absolutely!

KRIS: And to reassure you and Alice, The Sisters are not being forgotten. They are simply waiting in the background, listening to the soft sound of your song so they can chime in. So you need not worry.

(Pause)

(Speaking to Mark) During the very recent walk, we spoke of several things, one of which has been posted as a teaser. Do you recall Philip? Do you recall what you posted there?

MARK: The Meta Wheel of Life, where the individual is at the center of the wheel.

KRIS: Indeed. What would that represent to you?

MARK: That I’m at the center of ALL things. I am the wheel, not only the center of the wheel but the wheel itself.

KRIS: And what does a wheel imply?

MARK: Action. Movement. Motion. Travel.

KRIS: Indeed, action, movement, which ultimately translates into transformation. It represents a certain type of inertia and momentum. That is only very pertinent to consciousness. As much as you all like to believe that it is YOU who walks from Point A to Point B and then Point B to Point C and so on and so forth, that you are expending energy to make your body move along those points.

You may not necessarily perceive that again your physical movements are an interpretation through your physical senses of another type of movement, another type of inertia and momentum, these specifically relating to the interesting illusion that it is not specifically YOU that is moving as much as an indescribable amount of units of consciousness, literally indescribable, are providing the SENSE of inertia, whilst in reality nothing is moving but everything is being transformed. Does that make a few of your synapses quiver?

MYRNA: (Laughs) A lot!

JOHN: It reminds me what you were saying to Norm about the electrons appearing here and then appearing there and you said, well, really it’s the same electrons. We just perceive them in a different place.

KRIS: Indeed.

MARK: Has anybody seen the modern version of The Time Machine? Excellent movie, but The Time Machine sits still and I picture this: the transformations go on around it as it goes through time. It starts out with his home and then it changes and it tears down (everything around him)….

JOHN: The graphic is great.

MARK: Such a wonderful graphic.

JOHN: Sort of animation.

KRIS: Because in that dream the notion is that there is inertia and momentum through space-time, much in the same way but on a smaller scale and a more restricted bandwidth of perception for yourselves, whilst everything is being transformed around you to accommodate the perception. This is done without your specific conscious knowledge and it occurs completely invisible in your existence. Were it never mentioned, were this idea never presented, it might never cross your minds to perceive there is a different kind of inertia and momentum behind your actions.

Furthermore, there are actions, there is activity occurring all around you all the time even when you think nothing is happening between one moment and the next because there seems to be nothing between whatever object is in front of you or beside you or near you, but there is always activity. And there is in fact activity of such a profound nature that (speaking to Myrna) your intuitive response last Monday concerning the body….Do you remember when we spoke about the body? You immediately said, ‘We want to know more about this.’ Do you remember that?

MYRNA: I don’t remember the specifics. I remember the conversation.

KRIS: Indeed, we were speaking about in so many words the songs that are playing, the symphonies within the body, the energy within the body, and it seemed to almost overwhelm some when we brought this into a much larger scale, but we wish to go back there this evening.

MYRNA: I could feel that coming up again.

KRIS: Indeed and you might discover some of the reasons for the acceleration within.

Now, your whole life long and your entire length of life is based on one specific action, a most profound action without which you would not have your being. And it has its own inertia and momentum. That is your breath. From the moment you took your first breath your being was infused with life and life force, and of course you depend on that breath for the duration of your existence.

Unfortunately, in your modern world it is often only necessary to recognize it when you are in deep physical, emotional and psychological distress and you realize there is a distinct possibility that you might not be breathing even moments from now. Do you follow?

(Yes)

Then you may start paying attention to your breath. But your breath is something much more important even than keeping alive because it is only the physical appearance. Some of the older civilizations upon your planet have a completely different perspective of breath and breathing. Eventually the Western world will incorporate that into its understanding, but in the meantime small pockets of individuals like yourselves and others may begin the Breathing Revolution.

Even when the yogis came to your Western world starting with the Chicago World’s Fair and the first yogi to come to American introduced yoga this was a revolution in a manner of speaking. Others had traveled through Europe, but not extensively. Now it is quite common to see yoga classes on almost every continent everywhere. Different martial arts also incorporate very specific breathing, and your own existence obviously cannot do without it.

We bring this about merely to point out that even though your breathing pattern is different from yours, from yours, yours, and yours, still whether you are five, six, twenty, a hundred, a thousand, ten thousand, a hundred thousand individuals in one place, your breathing is rhythmic. It acquires a sense of togetherness. And as we suggested a few moments ago, your breathing is part of another larger process altogether.

In order to perceive that we aim to take you back to your body, not only as an expression of a cosmic song but that your physical form IS the Universe. And for that we need to ask you to come along for another meditation, if you are so willing.

(General assent)

Now, this only requires that you listen and focus in on the sound of our voice and begin paying attention to all of the various places in your body where you sense some tension, some stress, and allow the muscles in whatever part of the body are affected to release whatever amounts of stress are recognized.

(Pause)

And as you release the stresses, notice your breathing. Notice if you are taking short, shallow breaths, upper chest breaths or if you are taking deeper abdominal breaths or something in between and as you continue listening to the sound of our voice, you may also pay attention to the sound of your own breathing when you inhale and when you exhale. And as you continue to listen to the sound of our voice you can simultaneously concentrate on the sound of your breathing, each inhalation and each exhalation.

(Pause)

And notice the wavelike breathing. And as you continue to listen to the sound of our voice and your breathing, allow yourself and allow your body to enter a deep relaxation similar to when you are sleeping, totally relaxed and yet clearly mentally awake and focused.

(Pause)

And now you imagine in this dreamlike zone that though you are accustomed to your everyday ordinary body with its cellular structure and other membranes and tissues and veins and bones and liquids, that is only the interpretation of a much larger body of yours. This other body is found inside your body of flesh and it is much bigger, so big that it cannot be seen right away until you notice. Then in your arms and in your legs, in your chest, in your abdomen, in your head you have vast spaces before you, such a vast space populated with planets.

Inside of your body there are entire solar systems, and just as under regular interpretation your body is IN a solar system, you can also understand that IN your body there are solar systems with any number of planets orbiting a central sun. Your arms and legs, your chest, your abdomen, your head, your feet, your toes, your fingertips, your hair, your ears may each have many solar systems, each found within their own sectors of galaxies such as the Milky Way and others, each traveling alongside other galaxies that each contain many solar systems, and that these reach vast expanses of space that correspond all to a cosmic breath, a breathing so vast as to be nearly incomprehensive but definitely felt, resonated with through your own breath, as all of these vast systems including comets, other objects in the sky, moons, suns, each sustained by the power of a large cosmic breath that continues to expand for eons of time to such a vast extent of time that eons are almost insignificant.

These vast expanses of time breathe what we would call cronons, and each one breath is many cronons. The Universe keeps on its journey and it makes up the components of your hearts, legs, toes, fingers, hair, eyes, chest, abdomen, head, even makes up the molecules of your brain, the cells in your brain. So large and so vast is the body of your resources and you standing within this because it is within you can feel its energy pulsations, its breath. Each time you take a breath the Universe expands and contracts. Many Universes together expand and contract.

And yet there is a mysterious beautiful paradox in that though there are Universes covering incomprehensible distances and times and space, your body sitting here in this room only appears to be separate from that unity of Universes. And allow yourselves to feel not only the paradox but the mysterious beauty of it. Feel the energy as it sustains, supports, keeps the planets and the galaxies where they are, the same energy that simultaneously supports, nurtures and sustains your beautiful lives in this moment of time and space.

And as much as you might like to stay in that space, we suggest now that you begin reacquainting yourselves with the body you thought you knew. Pay attention again to your breathing and take deep breaths and notice how your body comes out of this dreamlike state or zone and how you can wiggle your fingers and toes. And on the count of three you will open your eyes fully refreshed and focused in this room. One. Take another deep audible breath. Feel it rush in and rush out of you. Two. Move shoulders and neck and knees and feet. And Three. Come back to the room and clap your hands. (Everyone claps.)

Now do you wish a small break?

(General assent)

(Break begins at 8:20.)

Mark discussed further his understanding that in creating our own reality, we never actually go anywhere. We exist in all places at all times because there is no time. If two people go out to the street corner and one turns left and the other turns right, they each immediately begin to transform the environment to accommodate where each one thinks they are going, changing atmospheres.

John said that his understanding is not so much that we create our own reality as much as that we ARE our own reality.

Alice brought up the idea that everyone lives within their own bubble of existence and Mark came back with the fact that everyone is creating their own reality around themself and that when they are ‘moving’, they are actually transforming everything within their own so-called bubble.

John posited that what he finds interesting is not that people disagree but that they AGREE and that there must be some kind of vast blueprints that entities agree to prior to forming their bubbles since their bubbles, their realities, will seem to correspond or have a congruency, i.e. they will appear to agree upon and create a very similar reality.

Mark said that while it may APPEAR that our environments are similar, in reality they may be very different even within groups of people who seem to agree upon what that environment actually encompasses.

[Mark’s Notes: at this point I got up to quickly run to the bathroom. I was hoping to keep that out of the transcript but unfortunately it has become an integral part of the conversation. How embarrassing.]

Serge remarked that Kris has said that there is a grid of perception. That is where the blueprints that we use exist. And John said that his understanding is that we all agree to these blueprints of a certain kind of physics before we ‘start playing here.’ And he wondered if that means that a person cannot really do anything in a public way until the mass consciousness catches up to make it possible. Otherwise you perceive that there are those who make it impossible and so you basically opt out of the game. However, he also believes that one can probably ‘bend the rules’ in certain ways.

Lida commented that there are certain parameters within which we must move such as that we will not be able to re-grow an arm if we lose one because that is part of the blueprint plan of this dimension.

John remarked that although it seems reasonable, nobody seems to have told the salamanders that one because they in fact ARE able to re-grow limbs and tails.

[Mark’s Notes: At this point I had just re-entered the room and the discussion.]

Mark explained that every personality, whether physical or essence exists in ALL places, so therefore we exist in the SAME place. We never move or travel anywhere. We just change psychological atmospheres by TRANSFORMING the units of consciousness that make up our physical bodies and the environment that they exist in. Therefore even though Mark left the room to go to the bathroom, everyone else TRANSFORMED the units of consciousness to watch him leave, exclude him from the conversation and then watch him re-enter the room. Mark then went on to explain that Mark perceives the reality that he does by accessing the units of consciousness using the ‘Grid of Perception’. Everyone else does the same thing.

Myrna said that one thing that still confuses her is that say Mark is another probability of her that is still her, to which Mark responded that he reflects to her and she creates what she perceives as Mark into her reality and he creates what he perceives as her in HIS reality. She said that she perceives each other person as ‘the nations of Myrna’ but John had a slightly different opinion.

He remarked that he feels that just as Myrna is Myrna, so also John is John, at that level, and at essence level it’s still Sharaleene and Sohars and that you have to get up to Quadrant Four before it’s all one being.

Myrna remarked that this concept that in looking at others she is looking at other probable selves of her own self, this is creating a change within her.

It was offered that in others being a reflection of us, what they are doing is reflecting to us aspects of ourself that we are then able to look at more closely.

Myrna referenced the Triple ‘A’ process and said she would like to add another A at the beginning. APPRECIATE. She mentioned that sometimes she will see a person in front of her and she will immediately judge them and that she is beginning to change that behavior into immediately appreciating them instead. Mark reminded everyone that in order for that person to even BE in her reality, there had to be an agreement to rendezvous in the first place, that she had to agree to allow that person into her space, so to speak. Myrna said that the concept of the ‘nations of Myrna’ is really taking on new meaning for her and Mark commented that he had really come to a deep feeling of the fact that everything, even the environment, IS him and he picked up again the concept that as we appear to move through life, we actually transform everything around us, the energy around us, in our own way.

(Session resumes at 8:30.)

KRIS: Now continuing that line of discussion, it can easily be said that the IDEA of launching that action, that psychic inertia and the momentum that follows reorganizes all of the tightly meshed units of consciousness that bind together to create your APPARENT visually perceived, sensually perceived world. It simply matches to the idea. The energy is in the idea.

MYRNA: The idea of going to the bathroom.

KRIS: Indeed.

MYRNA: Matches. What happens is that it’s all set up so that I end up at the bathroom but it’s the idea that created the journey.

KRIS: The idea has launched all of reality. Thus your physical world is merely the result of idea constructions. The constructions exist all in the thoughts as we defined them last Monday. Now that includes your sets of convictions, attitudes, and expectations. The IDEAS launch physical reality. The idea of Myrna created Myrna. So your ideas are not insignificant. Your ideas are to be appreciated.

MYRNA: (Laughs) Yes. Are we going to add an ‘A’?

KRIS: That can actually stand alone.

MYRNA: It’s so huge.

KRIS: It is a satori all on its own. You can say it is the Satori of Appreciation. When you appreciate the idea self you automatically appreciate the self that results from the idea and you cannot avoid appreciating others and they in turn become INFECTED with a potential epidemic of appreciation because the power is in the idea. It is the idea of a civilization that creates the civilization. Everything exists then at that layer. And you can easily understand from such a small discussion right now that without an idea of yourself you would not be. That is what being is.

It is much more than simply having a dream. And your ideas literally create untold worlds. You have much to be appreciative of because you are wonderful selves, so wonderful that even Tigger would appreciate you all, whether you have tails or not.

MYRNA: Can we start with the body?

KRIS: And you have perhaps caught on that the body is an expression of an idea, so how can anybody get frustrated, angry, resentful of an idea? All the more reason to appreciate.

JOHN: There’s another meaning to the word ‘appreciate’ that I just wanted to throw in.

KRIS: Indeed

JOHN: In the financial world to appreciate means to get bigger, so I think there’s something kind of cute there. As you appreciate, you get bigger. And remember how vast we are.

KRIS: Indeed then, when it is said that you sweep your hand through air, you literally are sweeping your hand through time and space in the complete sense of the word. Thus galaxies are moved as are cells, muscle tissue, bone, blood, and NONE of that truly understands what they are made up of, and sometimes you do not understand what YOU are made up of. Does that make sense?

MYRNA: What I got from tonight is that I’m an idea. I’m units of consciousness that come together to serve an idea. I don’t know who had the idea anymore.

MARK: YOU did.

MYRNA: (Laughs) I know, but I don’t know what I am anymore. I’m a wave but I don’t know how that wave got differentiated.

MARK: See, that’s what we do as essence. We try to understand th=what we are. We try to understand ourself and we do that through ideas and thoughts, and so I’m trying to express myself. I’m trying to understand who and what I am and so I am creating everything that I can think of, of what I am.

KRIS: Now there are ancient beings and many other older civilizations also had contemplated the philosophy of what we believe to have been called ‘celestial harmonies.’ Literally sounds, music of the spheres and though this is an interpretation, it is still extremely valid because they had captured the notion that there was still action within the apparent vacuum of space. And you may even experiment with this in your own free time to return to tonight’s meditation and as you listen to the sound of your own breath, listen to the sounds, even the music that is made when solar systems and galaxies displace themselves, and you will notice that together it creates beautiful harmonies.

And as you continue that in any way, shape or form, keep remembering that whether you are a singular individual or that you are an entire civilization, your collective breathing has its own rhythm well beyond the confines of your own singular bodily expression, well beyond the confines of anything on the earth that expands itself throughout time and space as if the Universe and all the universes, all universes everywhere were breathing as you breath, that your sometimes considered insignificant life and breath is part of that Meta Wheel of Life. Do you follow?

(Yes)

Does that help?

MYRNA: Yes it does. Hugely. Hugely! I am the result of an idea and I get frustrated by some aspect of myself. An idea creates that aspect of myself, and you said why get frustrated, judge that aspect? I’m confused there because if I am frustrated, I don’t know what to do with the frustration, in other words. Now that I know that I’m created from an idea, I don’t know what to do when I get frustrated.

MARK: Remember that.

KRIS: Now, we do wish this to be understood. When you say you are created from an idea you are not the result of somebody else’s idea or something else’s idea.

MYRNA: I understand that.

KRIS: But there is the idea, the entire concept of yourself, and you are an integral part of that. Do you follow?

MYRNA: Yes

KRIS: Indeed. Now, why hold a certain aspect of Myrna frustrate Myrna?

MYRNA: Because I can’t get into my clothes anymore. (Laughter)

JOHN: So we’re stalled on the aspect, eh?

MYRNA: I’m just using that as an example. Kris, some of these ideas are knocking up against each other and that’s okay as I learn more and more and more and now I can’t imagine to know anything anymore and that’s fine. But every now and again something like this pops up. So now what do I do, how do I live with an aspect of myself I remember that I’ve created.

MARK: You are so much, much more than what you are perceiving as your physical body.

KRIS: Now, why would you have created an aspect that you get frustrated about? We are back to the ‘Why’ question.

MYRNA: Okay

KRIS: Do you understand?

MYRNA: Yeah I do. Sure.

(Pause)

KRIS: What have you concluded? Think larger. You are thinking small.

MYRNA: There is something in whatever I have created that I have required myself to be for its learning.

KRIS: Now, one small perception is that Myrna likes to be intense. You like intensity.

MYRNA: Yeah! (Laughter)

KRIS: You like to create a specific tension between various states. Does that make sense?

(Myrna nods)

And in the tension you find a struggle which creates a sense of drama and that challenge you actually do cherish even if it is frustrating to you because you unconsciously understand that you use this to give yourself a kick in the pants. Does that make some sense? It is a process that you have engaged. Many other people create similar situations. And yours and theirs are still unique, but you have your own philosophy and psychology. When we present such things as Triple ‘A’ process, when you also understand that there is the Satori of Appreciation, when you use such a thing as the ‘Why’ process, we usually share these things to help you and everyone else understand THEIR psychology, not ours.

Simply put, no one may be able to understand our psychology. Your psychologists do not have references. Your psychologists may end up being visited by shrinks were they to try. However, YOUR psychology is important for YOU to recognize. Simply trying to assimilate our psychology and impose it over yours would present problems. They will not match because we cannot give you the whole ball of wax all at once, but we hopefully give you enough for you to recognize that your psychology either is fine as it is or you might find a place where you may be able to tinker with the engine and get more out of it. That is the intent behind our presentation, that and the occasional kick in the pants from outside.

All in all always we speak appreciation for the wonderful and lovely selves that you are whether you are listening here, whether you are transcribing, all are deeply appreciated, and our appreciation of your lovely nature can be recognized by your own selves when the idea hits you. And again the process is very similar. Allow the idea of change, of transformation to literally create the new Myrna. Does that make any sense?

MYRNA: I’m getting it. I’m getting it. What did you just say?’

KRIS: You are an idea, a concept. You feel some frustration because there is a part of that concept you don’t yet….

MYRNA: I get tonight what I can do about that.

KRIS: Now, you had some ideas tonight. You had some light bulbs go on. In the same way a new light bulb, a new idea can take hold within you, a new idea that will conceive a new Myrna that may have less frustration because she has appreciated that much more of yourself. Does that make sense?

MYRNA: That much more of….?

KRIS: Yourself. And you are constantly filled, all of you, with ideas. When your physical forms can no longer accommodate the transformations of energies from all of your ideas you return the forms to the earth and you invent new ones, constantly, consistently like clockwork because that is your nature, to create. And you do so through the processes of ideas. Concepts. Does that make some sense?

(Yes)

Do not think that because you are getting older somehow or other ideas may start falling off to the wayside or become less nourishing or adventurous or interesting. On the contrary, keep that floodgate open. Keep that energy flowing. You are only as old as your ideas and we mean that most concretely.

Now what is the time?

MARK: 8:50

KRIS: Indeed then. Have an idea of a break.

(Break begins at 8:50.)

Mark explained further the concept that everyone is in all places at once. That means that we are all in the SAME place at once since there is actually no ‘place.’ And while a few of us may agree to create a certain place where we appear to be gathered together such as a certain room, there are other people in other places of the world using those exact same units of consciousness to create their environment in their own unique way.

If Mark gets up and ‘moves’ in reality he is transforming the units of consciousness that are there into an appropriate manifestation of what he is thinking about.

John picked up something Kris said to Myrna, that if she is frustrated with an aspect, an idea of herself, all she has to do is to have a new idea of herself that isn’t frustrating, and she doesn’t have to DO anything. He wondered if an idea and an intention are the same thing. All she has to do is to have an idea of a Myrna that isn’t frustrating and allow that idea to transform the units of consciousness into THAT Myrna.

Myrna felt as if she is comprehending this at a deeper level than ever before because she’s finally understanding how it all actually works, transforming the units of consciousness.

Mark went further by mentioning that Philip is not only using the same units of consciousness to create ‘this’ Mark but also all of the probable and possible Marks in addition to all of the other expressions of Mark. Each one is a perception, an idea about itself and its views about itself and is therefore using those same units of consciousness differently.

At that point Myrna suggested that calling upon the Sisters is really calling upon self, upon one’s own ideas of self. Put another way, the Sisters are ideas.

There was general agreement that ‘this stuff really works.’

John mentioned that Kris has used this terminology before, that is a Universe of idea constructs and there are other kinds of Universes of other kinds of idea constructs.

(Kris returns at 8:56.)

KRIS: Due to the specific boundaries of the reality that you create for yourself, it may be difficult to conceive of other types of realities where idea construction takes other forms and other expressions and they do. Just like it might be difficult to imagine what one facet of the diamond looks like behind the diamond when you are looking at its face. But it is possible to conceive if only slightly because of the facet of the diamond that you are looking at, you are can easily summarize that the facet at the back would be somewhat similar. Once you are in one of those other realities then it may not look that amazing at the onset until you delve deeper into it.

For instance, take dream realities. The whole concept of the dream dimension is an extension of an idea construction, a different type of idea construction, a different species of idea construction, ideas where, for instance, the laws of physics are different, sometimes completely different where you are able to perform actions not possible within your regular official line of consciousness idea construction. These are simple small examples.

The concept of essence itself is another type of idea relatable to concepts, again completely different. You are all very accustomed to thinking that essence is a thing like a circuit board, but the circuit board is not, for instance, the internet. It is only part of the computer, an instrument to access the Internet, but it is not the whole. Does that make some sense?

(Yes)

So it allows you to interact with and perceive the Internet.

JOHN: So essence allows us to interact with and perceive ‘All That Is.’

KRIS: Indeed.

JOHN: But at that level it isn’t ‘All That Is.’

KRIS: It is a representation, another expression, because the concepts at those layers are multidimensional. That is why we have brought out something that people have still not quite grokked yet when we presented the idea that your essence is actually one of your many bodies. You have many essences, each again a representation of something else.

JOHN: So I get the feeling that at a certain level it’s sort of homologous. I may have made that word up. (John is using his hands as visuals as he speaks) But down here and then here we have essence. Here we have idea construction as we know it. Here we have idea construction using multidimensional ideas and essence is one of many expressions of that. And then it really seems to imply, doesn’t it, that there’s……

KRIS: A pyramid…

JOHN: Above the head!

KRIS: Indeed. Now it is far more holon-centric than you can imagine. The usual typical interpretation of a pyramid with a large base and a small summit is somewhat misleading. If you can imagine a sphere composed of nothing but pyramids, a geodesic dome, actually a geodesic sphere and it is only part of a larger system of geodesic spheres. There are always larger concepts. And yet they are nested within each other, not separate.

JOHN: I just have a quick reference question. Jane often talked about a pyramid above her.

KRIS: Indeed.

JOHN: And I’ve heard other people talk about the pyramid gestalt idea. I have always in my mind seen that pyramid resting on its point, the point being above Jane’s head and going up bigger, bigger, bigger. And I’m wondering which way that pyramid was pointed.

KRIS: If you look carefully at the construction of the pyramid, does the point rest above or below or at the sides?

JOHN: It’s homologous. Each part is its own solid thing.

LIDA: Depending on how you look at it.

JOHN: Well, how ARE we looking at it? (Laughter)

MARK: Any way you want!

KRIS: Now. Why not try this sometime during the week. When you enter this meditation we shared this evening, imagine that you also have above your own heads a pyramid like construction and see what kind of adventures unfold either by sensing it, looking at it, entering it, enter its energy, however you with to determine, but allow yourself some fun, each and every one of you and see what comes out of the fun.

And indeed the idea, the intent, is parallel. They may only have slight qualities that differentiate their notions but you can still play with that idea of ideas. All in all we suggest that you have as much fun as you possibly can.

And with that we will return you to your own humble, wonderful, immortal selves.

ALL: Thank you Kris.

(Session ends at 9:05.)

John said that his perception was that Kris was saying that intent and idea are a little different, as if an intent is an idea that you have engaged.

(Kris, who did not actually leave, responds.)

KRIS: The differentiation is that, for the most part……First of all, we never left.

MARK: I noticed! (Everyone cracks up!)

KRIS: Intent involves a specific thrust of will. It is a different kind of inertia and it can be used most constructively in your lives as long as you remain congruent to your idea.

JOHN: Your values.

KRIS: Indeed. No question.

MYRNA: I’m sorry; you’re suggesting that intent has the momentum for the idea to become so. Is that what you’re saying?

KRIS: You may have an idea and you will follow through with your intent. The intent involves will. And you can remain true to that idea by your intent remaining congruent. We hope that we are grammatically correct. (Laughter) And you are all intentional.

Now we take our leave of your lovely intentions.

(Session ends at 9:08.)

Further discussion after the session….

Lida asked what happens to ideas that are not given intent and Mark suggested that they continue on. John said that they have a life of their own.

Serge also remarked that he believes they turn up on other probabilities, ones that we don’t pursue here in this reality, but they have to go somewhere.

Mark commented that nothing ever dies and referred to the ritual at the Heal the Heart conference where nothing is ever wasted but is returned to the Universe so that others can use it.

Lida explained that what she meant was that we have many ideas but only some are acted upon and so what happens to the others.

Serge again said that those ideas that are not actualized here WILL be actualized in another probability where that choice is more in line with the intent in that reality, with the intent of THAT probable self.

Mark brought up the concept that movies, television, films are all other probabilities, consciousness expressing in other ways and forms. Ideas presented and explored.

It was discussed how we attract ideas or people or circumstances according to our own individual intent, those that resonate with us.

Mark stated that he thinks this is one of the best sessions that Kris has ever presented, at least for himself, that it really tied up a lot of things for him.

Myrna stated that Mark going into the bathroom really brought it home to her that we are ideas and that our reality is created by ideas.

At this point there was further discussion about the concept of the pyramid and Mark mentioned that he has always seen it as a sort of Family Tree with ‘All That Is’ and then essence which are expressed through other essence bodies and physical forms as well, etc. ‘All That Is’ being the point of the pyramid. But he also sees it as the reverse as well, because we as ‘Expressions of Essence’ have multiple source essences.

John mentioned the concept of the bandwidth of perception, the idea of essences and focuses, that’s the bandwidth we are beginning to be aware of. But guess what.
There was further discussion about there being only one unit of consciousness and that we are all one. Mark asked how does one keep track, so to speak, of THIS self that we are creating. That is the grid of perception, what you’ve got toggled on and off, and every life form has different toggles, so to speak. Animals, human beings, psychic people, etc., can all tune into different areas of the grid.

John and Serge both suggested that the key to our learning about ourselves is to forget everything we have ever learned about who we are just like we did to become who we are in this reality in the first place. It’s a wonderful paradox.

Mark was asked what is a toggle? It’s a switch, an on-off switch, just like computers basically go down to a simple binary code. On. Off. So what differentiates ‘my’ perception from ‘your’ perception depends upon what we have toggled.

There was further discussion about the concept of inertia and momentum and these terms were explained more in detail. Myrna asked why inertia was used concerning momentum when the term can also mean ‘non-moving.’

John explained that inertia means that a body tends to remain in a state of motion or rest until and unless acted upon by an outside force. If a person is sitting there, they will tend to want to stay sitting there even though they are pushed. That’s inertia, the tendency to continue doing what one is doing, whether action or non-action.

Mark qualified that to say that if a person is sitting there they will continue to sit there until and unless some external force or another person pushes you to move and the same applies if you are moving. The concept being that it takes an ‘outside’ force to either engage movement or stop movement. But what Kris says is that even if you think there is no movement, there actually IS movement but you are simply not perceiving it at that time.

[Mark’s Notes: The “Grid of Perception” transcript was recorded on June 28, 2004 during a walk. The transcript is online at http://www.krischronicles.com/transcripts2/grid-walk-june28-04.html]

(END)

Meta Wheel of Life (Published in first newsletter)

May 23, 2005

Note: Transcript Missing…

Idea-Atmospheres

May 23, 2005

Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois
Transcribed by Marcy Singer
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on May 23, 2005
© Copyright 2005 Avion Rising Inc.

Roll call in Toronto: Serge (Joseph), Mark (Philip)

Roll call in Castaic: Paul H (Janaki), Jo H (Rosalie), Ester (Benata), Drew (Onoru), Jim (Jericho).

Roll call in Oregon: Norm (Ambrose), Reta (Leihuu)

[Mark’s Notes: Prior to Kris entering the conversation we were talking about Physics. Norm would like Serge to read some books on or by William Tiller so that Kris would have access to some of the terms that Norm would like to use during his next private session with Kris.]

(Session begins at 8:09.)

KRIS: Now we thank you for your consideration and wanting to share some of your time with ourselves. Since you are continuing discussions in physics, we would like to press ahead and bring about a similar but slightly different discussion in terms of the physics of ideas. Would anyone care to define the word ‘idea?’

(Pause)

MARK: Anybody?

PAUL H: An idea is a mental construct., construction.

KRIS: Indeed and how do you determine the difference between when you say, ‘I thought of this and I thought of that’ or ‘I had this idea come to me’?

PAUL H: An idea’s an inspiration.

KRIS: You would therefore have to agree that there is a marked difference between an idea and a thought, even though they are cousins one to the other. Do you agree?

NORM: Yes. One would be an inspiration from the spiritual side of you and the other would be an intellectual concept.

PAUL H: I would say one would be a subjective communication and the other would be an objective translation, the thought being the objective translation.

KRIS: And yet you can often perceive both, knowing the differentiation between the two states.

Now, where do thoughts and ideas come from? And by this we mean have you given sufficient observation to such processes to determine where the flow of your thoughts and/or ideas comes from? Do they come from your left, your right, front or back? Do they come from one specific corner of a room or a house or another?

PAUL H: For me ideas come from the back.

NORM: The difference between intuition and a thought to me is really important. I feel that intuition gives me the fact that I know it to be true whereas a thought is not necessarily true. Intuition comes from my spiritual side.

KRIS: Now in terms of physical location, where do you recognize the flow of thoughts of ideas as coming from or originating from?

NORM: That’s a good point.

RETA: Deepak Chopra has gone into that very deeply in a lot of his works. You are the thinker of the thoughts but you have to be aware that thought is yours and the thinker of the thought has to use it and use his belief system or intuition to interpret that.

PAUL H: And I would say that for me it comes from the back as far as for Kris’ front, back, right, left geographical sensing within my focus perception. Ideas come from the back.

KRIS: Indeed in terms of your own mental positioning devices, where do they come from?

RETA: Mine come from above my head in the back. The thoughts that I didn’t plan on and just happened to come there without me asking for them maybe come from above my head.

NORM: That is a very good question and I would love to know where mine come from! (Laughter)

MARK: It’s actually pretty funny because everybody here seems to be presenting the idea that they come from external to the physical body, external to the brain.

RETA: From my soul to the brain. I would say that.

NORM: Well I’ll tell you, I get a gut feeling, probably an emotional feeling if I know it’s really true. When I have ‘good’ intuition I have a feeling in my gut that it is as a Universal truth.

KRIS: Perhaps if we presented a rather benign exercise you might understand more clearly. It does not require you or any of you to go into a deep, deep state, but simply pretend for a moment that in your mind’s eye you have a radar-like device that scans the very room you are in and it will assist you in pinpointing the direction, the geographical direction that the flow of your thoughts reaches you. And it may be different for every individual. And that is acceptable.

So pretend for a moment that your radar device is turned on, that it is scanning the room you are physically in and it will signal what direction of the room the energy of your thoughts is coming from. Does that make sense?

PAUL H: Yes.

NORM: Does it make a difference what the environment is? What room you are in?

KRIS: It matters not.

NORM: Can you condition a room for your developing this?

RETA: It’s spontaneous.

KRIS: The room itself is irrelevant because the room is reflections of portions of your own self, of your psyche. So the room or the house matters very little, but the angle or the direction coming from would be interesting for you to notice.

NORM: I know I’ve had clairaudience from other individuals before. I know that I’m starting to have more waking dreams now. And it appears that, like Paul says, I probably am behind my head. It’s in reference to my body and not necessarily the room. But you are talking about looking for the room but really in reference to the human body.

KRIS: Look at it this way. When you open a window you feel a breeze of fresh air enter the room. If you were to open a psychological window to the idea-atmosphere, you would definitely also recognize an idea breeze.

NORM: A beautiful breeze.

KRIS: What direction do you sense that coming from? Is slightly to the left? To the right? To the middle? Is it slightly up or down relative to your position in the room?

ESTER: Mine feels straight from the left.

MARK: I feel the left too.

JO: I feel the lower right.

PAUL H: Lower back for me.

NORM: I don’t know yet.

JO: You’re getting it from all over.

RETA: There again it’s spontaneous and you have to keep with your senses.

MARK: I definitely get the flow sensation. I not only see or visualize an entrance I also see an exit where they flow out. Maybe I should cork that end. (Laughter)

JO: Yeah, get yourself a physical cork.

NORM: But you’ve got to hear the pop.

KRIS: Now, everyone has a sense of that flow?

(Yes)

Indeed. Now put this aside for the moment so that you can all return to the discussion.

You are aware in your own world of events and circumstances and conditions that make up the days of your lives much like a soap opera, in a manner of speaking. By learning to pay attention and to be more observant, you may eventually notice that there is a direct relationship between the thoughts that you entertain, and this is a generic term for these thoughts may include emotions, perceptions, attitudes, expectations and definitely your convictions. So these are generally labeled as thoughts without having to go into the nitty gritty every time there is a mention of this. Agreed?

MARK: Agreed. Are you fine with that term?

(Yes)

KRIS: Now, by learning to observe the flow of your thoughts you cannot avoid recognizing that in actuality a very small portion of your existence actually occurs in the physical reality, that which you call home base. And in actuality the major portion of your being exists in this what we have called idea-atmosphere where there is a constant flow of concepts, living dynamic intentions flowing in and through the very nature of your being and of which in accordance with your convictions and perceptions you capture some of these concepts simultaneously letting go of countless others because they may not be related to your perceptions and convictions at any given time. But you are nonetheless surrounded and have your being in this idea-atmosphere, which exists outside of the regularly acknowledged time and space continuum.

In other words still the source of your being exists removed from time and space but you as an expression of your being, an expression of essence have your specific and unique experience within the context of a time and space continuum, another kind of idea-atmosphere, another form of energy within which you learn to manipulate and transform energy within the coordinates and the parameters of that field. But it is not your main existence.

This leads us then into this idea-atmosphere where you may notice a much accelerated state of being, accelerated in the sense that you are constantly unconsciously diverting a steady multi-directional stream of ideas in accordance with your unique perception and convictions to each of your various expressions. So perhaps if some of you wonder why you are tired at times, you have a ready explanation, but we do not suggest you present it to the boss.

Now, the point of this presentation is to perhaps lead you into recognizing that there are physics pertinent to this idea-atmosphere just as there are within dreams and within physical waking reality. In physical waking reality you are accustomed to measuring various units to give yourselves a sense of dimension. You measure matter. You measure mass. You measure distances. You measure time and so on and so forth. And a small degree of observation lets you recognize that in the dream state those applicable laws of physics are changed.

For instance, in the dream state what may look on the outside to be a small house may suddenly turn out to have the inner dimensions of great stately homes and mansions far larger than anything you could have recognized in seeing that same house from the outside. Does that make sense?

(Yes)

Other laws also do not apply in the dream state. Objects that may appear heavy may be much lighter and vice versa as well as the appearance of objects themselves. For instance, what in physical reality appear to be solid walls, which we believe most of you refrain from walking into most of the time, in dream states you can easily not only see through them but walk through them, letting you understand that different rules of physics apply.

NORM: Indeed.

KRIS: Now. In this idea-atmosphere where most of your dream states actually occur there are again different types of laws of physics that pertain and you do not need to be IN that idea-atmosphere to understand this but simply from your own waking perspective. You have thoughts and ideas come to you constantly. In fact, you cannot NOT have thoughts and ideas of any kind though you can choose to ignore them, but it is not the same as not having them.

The idea here is to develop an observation of these mental concepts. Notice for instance just as in the dream state any of the construction within dreams themselves, houses, buildings, cities, trains, planes, bodies, parks, trees, rivers, boats, mountains, regardless of how vast or miniscule do not occupy any space and real estate in the common sense of the word. Correct?

(Yes)

Similarly, ideas, thoughts do not occupy any space, do not weigh anything, are completely transparent and yet for the simple notion that some people may brush off ideas and thoughts as having any real consequence with physical reality, the contrary is most pertinent that thoughts and ideas are primordial and essential to the manifestations of physical reality, especially inasmuch as the human experience and adventure is concerned specifically in terms of the civilizations and the cultures that humankind has built. This is quite phenomenal for things that are considered ethereal, ephemeral and sometimes of no consequence that out of these thoughts and ideas and idea-atmosphere humankind has managed to create most beautifully and sometimes most destructively but always most creatively the events and conditions and circumstances and objects within physical reality.

You are able then through the auspices of the idea-atmosphere to create objects which have form, which have mass, which have weight, which have depth and which occupy space in your terms from something that does not in any of those terms. And they also that contrary to the thoughts and ideas which require no energy, your interpretations of these thoughts and ideas require energy to transform the elements of reality into a facsimile of the objects within the idea-atmosphere. Do you follow?

(Yes)

Now as a further enticement to investigations you give all of the objects within physical reality various kinds of dimensions but you are unable so far to give anything from the idea-atmosphere any similar descriptives except once in awhile the adjectives of ‘this is big, this is immense, this is humongous, this is creative’, but your physics and sciences are unable to be applied to the vibrant energies within the idea-atmosphere. Does that make sense?

(Yes)

NORM: Indeed with a lot of questions.

KRIS: Now what is the time?

MARK: 8:41

KRIS: Now we will engage you in a small break so that you can ponder the dimensions of your own thoughts. And we will return shortly. Agreed?

(Yes)

(Break begins at 8:42.)

Norm was wondering if this idea-atmosphere is a personal thing or if they are interrelated. In other words is each person’s idea-atmosphere different from everyone else’s or are they similar or are they the same?

Mark replied that as essence we exist in a sea of thoughts and ideas but these are projected to the physical by our essence self, so essence is picking and choosing and directing. We all have access to all the same thoughts but each individual essence will choose various of these to project into physical. A steady stream as Kris calls it.

Paul likened this to Elias’ concept of subjective/objective. The subjective reality is this idea-atmosphere with much less separation. He said that he finds it very clear to think of this as thought as a translation and the idea-atmosphere as the source. He believes that Kris is simply bringing it back to a basic meditation technique of noticing and then stepping outside and becoming the observer and in so doing this is as close as we will come to experiencing this idea-atmosphere. He also posited that this idea-atmosphere is available to anyone at any time in any form, physical or non-physical.

[Mark’s Notes: At this point in time, Paul has NOT read the “Meta Wheel of Life” transcript and he does not realize how close to the truth he is in his comment about being the observer.]

Ester mentioned how sometimes she will have limiting thoughts as if somehow she will not be able to handle all of this information perhaps because she is not good at physics and yet if we all have access to this she will be able to handle this no matter if she is good at physics or not.

Norm said that it’s like with a car, you don’t have to know how the engine works to drive a car. However, he personally needs to know how the engine works. He said he envies people who don’t need to know how the engine works but just get in and drive.

Norm asked Paul what he sees as the difference between the witness and the observer. Paul said that he sees them as the same. He believes it is always there.

Mark said that he had discussed that with Kris, referring to the observer and the witness comments. He imagined a scenario from Star Trek where a person would be interacting within a holographic drama with holographic characters who were not aware that they were holograms. If they were made aware of this fact then everything would change with that knowledge.

Norm said that we often don’t understand that we are the observer and the operator at the same time. Paul called this nested awarenesses within our awareness and how Kris is challenging us to become more aware of these different levels through the idea of geographical areas of thought vs. impression, impulse, idea coming through.

Paul also mentioned Elias’ concept that No-thing, this idea-atmosphere, can create something. He believes that this is the basic Holy Grail of conscious creation, how to make these concepts readily available to people.

Norm also offered that we not only create this physical reality but we also create this idea-atmosphere itself and therefore we are actually in the ‘same’ atmosphere in which Kris has their existence. Paul said yes and no because we are centered in Quadrant One as physical beings while Kris has their being in Quadrant Three, but Norm remarked that this does not mean that we are ONLY in this quadrant and then asked can we in effect communicate with each other through Framework Two.

Mark said ‘you already do.’

(Kris returns at 8:53.)

KRIS: Now. As to your lovely question, obviously the answer is yes, you do communicate in Frame Two since you communicate in Frame One. You do not necessarily communicate in Frame One with everyone you communicate with in Frame Two, but everyone you communicate with in Frame One you do in Frame Two. Does that make sense to you?

(Yes)

That is according to the intent that you have within Frame One, how you wish to go about the transformations of consciousness within that sphere of influence. But you are indeed quite correct that you also create the idea-atmosphere because it is a natural state of being. From therein you create the dream state. From therein you create physical reality. We are making that direct connection because all three, the idea-atmosphere, the dream state, physical reality, are all different interpretations of yet something else, exactly in the same way that thoughts are interpretations. Do you understand?

(No)

Janaki? Do you understand?

PAUL H: I trailed out on that. I’m taking notes here. Maybe Ester can summarize that. (Laughter)

KRIS: Earlier on you clarified thoughts as being something very specific, an interpretation. Correct?

PAUL H: A translation.

KRIS: Indeed.

ESTER: You are saying that Regions One, Two and Three are all interpretations.

KRIS: Indeed, in the same manner that thoughts are translations your physical reality is a translation. Your dream realities are translations. The idea-atmosphere itself is a translation, each nested within the other, each emerging from various states of perception. And we have defined it in that specific order to help create a very specific awareness of the observer observing the observer observing the observer, each nested within its own observations. Such understandings can enable you to understand even more deeply the dynamics and mechanics of your reality creation process.

Now it is our understanding that some people think that when they stumble upon the reality creation conscious creation process that suddenly everything is different, and yet it is not. You have been engaged in consciously creating your lives and your existences since even before the dawn of time. Since even before you thought of time. You have created an entire industry of the world through which the contents of the idea-atmosphere are translated through dream states, through your conscious processes, into the events, conditions and circumstances of physical reality.

You have thought of the combustion engine, of cars, automobiles, trains, boats, any other means of transportation considered a modern amenity, and as such you have also created the industry necessary to manufacture those concepts from the idea-atmosphere right down to the nuts and bolts that are found in the engine that is in the car that when you turn the key on allows you then to go from Point A to Point B. Does that make sense?

NORM: Indeed

KRIS: Does it make sense to anyone else? (Laughter)

JO: Not the combustion engine part, but the other stuff does.

KRIS: Everything that you find in your physical reality, both what you consider manufactured goods as in one of those streams as well as what you think, what you believe may have existed in the world before your appearance in it such as the world itself. So you function at different layers simultaneously, maintaining and creating simultaneously, taking very specific coordinates from the idea-atmosphere, translating it down the line, if you wish, into what you presently experience as your modern world.

So it is indeed a massive endeavor of cosmic proportions because it involves the Cosmos itself. No small feat but one that may indeed require more observation on your part as part of your experience of reality.

So your awareness is far more developed than you give yourselves credit for. All it requires is that you recognize, appreciate, and most importantly accept your wondrous accomplishments, even at the layer of Earth gods and goddesses. You look at the bees and you are entranced by their marvelous abilities to take pollen and nectar and create their beehives, the beeswax, the honey, the royal jelly, all of which you find most delectable. You marvel at the termite’s ability to create enormous hills, literally cities of mud. You look at so many other animals and insects and you marvel at their complexity.

And often with the same thoughts you might be globally tempted to be rather harsh on your own species, thinking that it may be obvious that the human species is destroying the environment. And it may very well appear that way to you since these are the beliefs that you hold.

But we deeply encourage you to appreciate your own individual creative endeavors, endeavors you have put into practice from the moment you have translated yourself from the state of subjective into the subjective/objective creatures that you are and which more appreciation for your own talents and creative abilities you might be tempted to reflect upon the whole of humankind, regardless of appearances, and see them in a similar light. Does that make some sense to you?

NORM: Can I ask a question? The three consciousness levels, so to speak, each one of these…..do we develop an intent for each one of them? And do we have a belief system for each one of them? Idea construction, dream state and the real world?

KRIS: Your intent, or rather intents in the plural, create the various states themselves, each with a specific purpose and you use these in the deep creative manners in order to sustain the entire industry of creation as you understand it. So it is very complex but not overly complex.

NORM: We intrinsically, inherently know how to do it.

KRIS: Indeed. You have never questioned your ability to think. Correct? You may have questioned your thoughts but that innate ability to think has never been put into question.

NORM: Right.

KRIS: You have never questioned your ability to see or to live. You have never learned how to see nor how to think, how to speak or how to be. These are innate to your being because they too, the objects of your thoughts, your seeing, your words, are translations. Everything is indeed a translation. You therefore live in an allegorical Universe. Everything is a symbol for something else. What that something is ultimately IS YOU in every sense of the word.

Your physical environment, your actions within it, all are translations of your own idea-atmosphere within which you have your being as non-physical. Does that make sense to your lovely self?

NORM: Yes

KRIS: Now what is the time?

MARK: 9:10.

KRIS: Indeed. Do you wish another small break?

(Yes)

(Break begins at 9:10.)

Norm asked Mark if he understood this last piece of what Kris shared and Mark said yes. We couldn’t exist in physical reality without the ability to create it all. Mark asked if there was ever a baby born that could not think?

Norm talked about how babies will look at you with ‘different eyes’ than say a teenager with look at you, and he wondered what they are really seeing. He mentioned certain experiments that have been done with children up to age 15 the show that children gradually lose their ability to interpret certain physical experiences and he said he didn’t think that should occur, that in making children conform to the status quo, we assume that the prism shows only one rainbow when in reality it shows two rainbows, young children can see two rainbows out of a prism. And he asked why do we lose that ability to see the two rainbows? Is that the translation of one of these three areas of consciousness that has been lost? And how does one regain that?

Mark suggested that that is what we are exploring now in widening our awareness.

Ester said that a friend was explaining to her the other day about electricity and she believes that in those terms we put a resistor into the flow as we age but that we do not need to do that.

Norm asked if that is not why we age, because we believe that is how it is.

Paul mentioned the idea of causality concerning aging. It’s not just beliefs. There are other things that enter into the equation and to say that we age simply because of our beliefs is an oversimplification.

Norm asked if this is a realization that if we don’t age and die we can’t reincarnate or we will overpopulate the earth.

Paul said that it’s by design. We designed this reality in this way to incorporate death.

(Kris returns at 9:15.)

KRIS: Your discussion is most interesting and indeed your species and its various members can live much longer than they presently do, but you cannot live in the physical body forever in that sense of the word. Your lifespan ideally can easily reach over 150 years of age, but there are many different conditions that can assist this and it is not only related to the idea of clicking your heels three times and saying to yourself, ‘I will life forever. I will live forever. I will live forever.’ (Laughter)

Of course your VISA cards would enjoy that. (More laughter)

Beliefs are tricky things. The majority of individuals that delve into conscious creation in one way or another often explore no more than the surface most layers of the concept. Some think, for example, that all they have to do is think healthy thoughts and they will forever be healthy. But our question is, why do you not notice that you must change your very concept of health. To think that you may live forever and keep eating McDonald’s are two juxtaposed belief systems. (Laughter)

You should investigate a healthier lifestyle if you wish to engage those specific belief systems. The thoughts themselves will not lead you there. Do you follow?

NORM: McDonald’s has salads these days, you know. (Laughter)

KRIS: There are many aspects that have to be looked at and understood. You cannot instruct your physical body to maintain an absolute healthy stance without providing it with the foodstuffs and the nutrients necessary to maintain that stance. Otherwise it is the sheer height of laziness and folly to do so. To instruct, program the physical form to keep you healthy and at the same time you are going to feed it the most inferior types of foods and expect it to perform at maximum. Do you understand?

(Yes)

So there are many aspects to consider as instances. And again your species can live much longer, but not indefinitely. At one point the ability of that body to translate your energies will be outgrown. You will need to enter into another stage and literally another existence to continue translating your energies. Does that make sense?

(Yes)

Thus the elements that compose your physical form can then be returned to the earth where it will feed the worms to provide food which will make the bodies of other entities entering your dimension, wishing to manifest themselves from the layer of idea-atmosphere to dreams through the physical state in the classic sense of the process in the sense of the industry of the world as you understand it.

So you have created a most wonderful mechanism, a living dynamic mechanism within which you have your wondrous being, and to consider that such a world is somehow or other flawed does not make much sense, now does it? You have created the herbs and the plants to feed yourselves and to heal yourselves. For the last few hundred years you are experimenting with divergent lines of consciousness. For example with the creation of allopathic medicine as opposed to traditional medicinal systems, wishing to see what intentions might create here and there and the other place.

But you are now starting to see collectively that the allopathic model cannot bring about the same results but have brought about different and interesting perspectives that may indeed go off into other probabilities while you swing back literally to reincorporate nature’s bounty into your daily lives. But this will require much thought because you have surreptitiously damaged much of the natural living environment, which has sustained you for millennia and eons. Now you much create the opportunities and the intent to bring this to a state of harmonization.

But you are undertaking many marvelous experiments. Some may not turn out. Some may. Some may be dropped. But you are still experimenting and creating because that is your nature, the nature of creating civilizations as the bees create their hives and their honey and the beavers create their dams and their huts and the termites create their hills and their underground cities, so do you naturally instinctively translate from the subjective to the objective and you create them your civilizations.

So you are indeed most ingenious creatures but you need to see yourselves in that light. We already see you in that light. We already embrace your endeavors. Are you ready to embrace yourselves and your own endeavors to the same degree? What kind of physics are involved in such a subjective action? We leave you then to ponder that mystery in your dreams and in your idea-atmospheres and until we meet again do enjoy and embrace your natures.

JIM: This is Jericho and I have a question Kris if you will indulge me for a moment.

KRIS: Indeed.

JIM: If I could acquire my six-pack please.

KRIS: (Pause) Now you are prone to much introspection and subjective translations of other states. Some people might tend to think that you can be at times spaced out. Is that correct?

JIM: Oh yeah. (Laughter) I’m a bit spacey. But I like that.

KRIS: Indeed. There is a definite reason, and in part this evening’s discussion is very pertinent to yourself.

JIM: Yes indeed.

KRIS: Because our desire for you is to pay attention to that sweet subjective nature of yours because you have a belonging to that is outside of this system that actually is in our own system, that which we refer to as the Gaura. Your specific system with this family that we refer to as the Taaj it has a specific cluster. And your belonging to is Sumafi/Zuli and the third is Uzool. This is a family of intent in the Gaura cluster.

Your aligning with is Sumari/Ilda/Tumold. We hope that his makes sense to your lovely self.

JIM: Yes it does. Very interesting. That’s very interesting. Thank you very much.

KRIS: We seek to endear you to explore within your the specific flow within your idea-atmosphere, your subjective idea-atmosphere. You have most interesting adventures that you can learn from simply by becoming aware of them.

JIM: I have tapped into quite a few of those lately even in the like of Tesla that we talked about in our session together and it’s been quite intriguing and interesting.

KRIS: Indeed. Now then, we take leave of all of your lovely subjective and objective selves and of all of your most ingenious ideas about yourselves, whatever those may be. Add those are for you to keep discovering. And have a pleasant feast.

ALL: Thank you Kris.

(Session ends at 9:30.)

There was some further discussion about the information Kris shared, “ingenious ideas about yourselves”, and Norm mentioned that although he feels that it’s simple, it’s also so transitory that he has trouble grasping it. Paul remarked that this is why we are getting such a good map between Seth, Elias and Kris so that we can come to an understanding of all of this.

Paul mentioned that Ken Wilber’s theory of the holon-centric Universe really explains this very well concerning subjective dream mediation and objective manifestation physics. He also mentioned the idea of everything as being nested multidimensional circles within circles and that there is a ‘holonic’ mathematics that may be useful in understanding these matters.

(Kris jumps back in at 9:32.)

KRIS: Nothing could keep us away from your lovely selves. (Laughter)

Now on the one hand you are correct in that it is simple but its simplicity underlying a very complex arrangement in a specific order. For instance, you think it is very simple. You go into the car dealer’s place of business. You see a car. You buy the car. End of story. But there is background. There is an entire manufacturing process. There is an entire process of bringing the raw elements, the metals and everything else that will compose the car. There are the raw elements and the designs and the architectural and engineering of the place that builds and assembles the car parts. This is a massive endeavor.

That simple notion of creating a vehicle that will transport people, the car, has a massive industry behind it. Would you not agree?

(Yes)

And yet the original thoughts and concepts themselves occupy a totally different dimension that your reality has no way of measuring in any way, shape or form. You cannot determine the dimension of a thought, but the very principle using the same analogy of the automobile industry lets you understand that that is a translation of the concept of vehicular transportation which also applies to every other means of locomotion on your planet, at least mechanical industrial. Do you understand?

(Yes)

And yet the thoughts themselves the originated that industry occupy no space and may have barely, barely floated in someone’s mind for a few seconds before it was grabbed and anchored and explored, and yet you will not find that thought in the brains of any of the individuals who originated the processes. So the thoughts of, the idea of the automobile and everything related to it are covered by a totally different set of physics. And it is possible to delve into those laws of physics, but as of yet your sciences do not have the means to explore such concepts.

ESTER: Can I ask a question?

KRIS: Indeed.

ESTER: Did you say that the idea of the modes of transportation, in this case a car, came to somebody different than the people who actually created the cars?

KRIS: We are saying that the concept is not new to your reality. Other realities have explored the concept in different and similar ways much before your reality. Other probabilities have yet to explore that concept. Other realities altogether are exploring the concept but without the use of fossil fuels. Yet the idea has touched the minds and the brains of numerous individuals in all of those probabilities, including your own. You translated the idea in a manner that would most suit your intent and beliefs and convictions at that time.

You can even say that the concepts within this idea-atmosphere have a velocity all of their own and travel through because they are living dynamic energies, travel through different realities. Now this gets very complex, but suffice it to say that what appears to be simple never is until you grok the principle and still that is one facet of the concept itself. Do you follow?

(Pause)

MARK: Ester? Get it?

ESTER: Yes.

NORM: Kris, can I interject a question. I’m dying to ask this question.

KRIS: Indeed. Do not die. (Laughter)

NORM: Emotionally only, the concept that we have different physics for the objective reality and the idea reality and the dream reality – Is that associated with the symmetry gauge system where we have in the subjective reality electromagnetism whereas in the SU2 gauge symmetry system you have magneto magnetism. In other words you have magnetic monopoles, which evidently can have an entirely different physics such that crystals can create direct magnetic monopoles and direct magnetic monopoles can create light. They can create the magneto magnetism, which is identical to electromagnetism but is created by the motion as magnetic monopoles. Does that make any sense?

KRIS: Indeed.

NORM: Indeed? Wow! (Laughter)

KRIS: That does not necessarily mean that it is 100% accurate.

NORM: Okay.

KRIS: You have the same units of consciousness in all stage, all nested in emergent stages, but they behavior differently according to the zone that they manifest within thus creating different physics pertinent to the zone even though they are the same units of consciousness. It’s simply that they behave differently depending upon the intent of the zone, which is created by yourselves. So the intent really is primal, but intent does not mean willing or will power. They are two different things entirely. Do you understand?

NORM: Okay.

KRIS: And you are not necessarily always consciously aware of your intent. In physical reality you MAY, emphasis on the word ‘may,’ if you pay attention, you MAY become aware of your intent after the fact simply because a lack of noticing. But with cultivating the practice you can recognize your intent and again change and transform the path of your own awareness development, often avoiding unnecessarily difficult challenges simply to discover what your intent is. Do you follow?

NORM: Indeed.

KRIS: Now then my lovely electro-magnetronic units (Everyone cracks up), we will leave you to ponder the mysteries of the Universe as much as you ponder the mystery of being who you are for both are relevant and pertinent, and the answers are as close to you as your breath is. And with that breathe a sigh of relief and enjoy your week.

(Session ends at 9:45.)

Wisdom of the Ages

May 19, 2005

Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois
Transcribed by Marcy Singer
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on May 19, 2005
© Copyright 2005 Avion Rising Inc.

Roll call: Serge (Joseph), Myrna (Sharaleene), John (Sohars), Alex (Darrolid), Paul, Helena, Cheryl (Millicent), Alice (Miluumea), Eveline, Franco. Mark (Philip) was unable to attend.

[Mark’s Notes: The weekly evening sessions at this point in time have outgrown our small apartment. This particular evening is the first evening at a new rented location that can accommodate much more people and is extremely comfortable.]

(Session begins at 7:57.)

KRIS: Now we thank you for your consideration and for wanting to share with us in this lovely space. As Joseph has pointed out, the space already contains a very serene environment and your presence can only enhance its nurturing properties. Your intentions certain add to the phenomenon as your intentions add to the phenomenon of your lives.

Now it is interesting that Joseph shared with you his little fortune cookie, which simply states that he has at his command the wisdom of the ages. Now far be it from us to imply that we are or contain or have the wisdom of the ages because if you take that into consideration the wisdom of the ages indeed is a very big thing in common vernacular.

But it should also reflect upon each of you, each and every one of you that you have your existence in every corner of the ages. You have ‘Expressions of Essence’ in every time and every space. Therefore, you have access to that kind of information, but we do wish to point out that wisdom, information, knowingness and so on is not dry and static. It does not exist separate from life like you might find books in a library. It is a living part of existence, your existence. You cannot have knowledge or wisdom without life.

And deeper in the recesses of your awareness are the doorways, the gateways to this type of wisdom and knowledge, and it comes in the form of other expressions, other lives, but so much more than that. (Pause) Your lives are themselves the embodiment of that wisdom in any way, shape, and form so that you have cultivated, that you have cultured, and it is important to keep this in mind because far too often it is assumed that knowledge, wisdom, information somehow or other is not related to life, that somehow or other it exists separate from being yourselves.

But from our perspective then all of the knowledge that you could possibly attain, all of the knowledge that you could possibly comprehend is at your fingertips as long as you remember that that knowledge, that wisdom will come to within the context of your lives. It would not serve you much purpose, for example, to try and figure out how beings on Alpha Centauri or any other strange worlds conduct their existence because it would be out of context of your own lives.

But developing your awareness, understanding how your own specific existences are carried out, even those that might be in foreign solar systems or Universes or galaxies, may enrich your existence within the context of your own life. And the more you open yourselves up, the more you make allowance for that wisdom to speak and live through your moments and your thoughts and your days, the more your life takes on a different dimension.

There are many people who wish to understand how their lives have meaning, what kind of mission do they have, what is the specific purpose of their own life without taking the time to examine their own life because that information is present in that life, in their life, and it takes very little amounts of time per se to discover the wisdom that is already lived now in their lives.

But herein is the key. You must work at allowing that information to come to you without censoring it, first of all, simply because it may not fit into your preconceived notions about what reality may or may not be. And to consider that your life and reality can only be understood by your physical senses and by the perceptions of those senses will naturally censor information that comes from the deeper recesses of self. That means that you might need to cultivate a special zone. You may consider it to be a sacred space in your own minds. You may consider it to be a sanctum within your minds, your inner selves, a space of quiet, a psychological retreat. However you wish to create it and assign characters to it.

And from there explore any idea that comes to your awareness. And we mean that most literally to follow an idea that comes to you, much like the White Rabbit running through and jumping into the rabbit hole. And it takes a bit of practice to actually allow a thought to go through your awareness and to follow it, see how it develops and evolves as it comes to you, goes through you and leaves your sphere of influence to pursue its own development and for you to follow suit, much like a comet in the night sky leaves a tail so you can pursue thoughts. And we will provide you with some practice to that effect this evening.

These practices may very well cause side effects such as stretching the boundaries of your imagination, helping you develop a greater parameter of awareness and a recognition of that as well as a recognition of the inner atmosphere within which you have your being. You are aware, for example, of the atmosphere of this room. You are aware of the atmosphere and even the weather outside of this room, but many of you and most of you are unaware of the psychological atmosphere within their own being, whether there is sunshine or storms in the inner weather. And you are entirely free to cultivate whatever kind of weather conditions you deem necessary.

Now, these are some of the side effects. There are others. Practice also may lead to the discovery that it is possible to have lucid projections whilst in such states similar to projections out of body but without the need to fall asleep, and that is only the beginning. (Pause)

Do you have questions at this time?

JOHN: Actually, you said something kind of interesting, Kris, to me. You mentioned something interesting about the idea that in order to gather the wisdom of the ages from within ourselves in a way that pertains to our situation as opposed to Alpha Centauri, we need to make use of the physical senses.

KRIS: Indeed.

JOHN: I thought that was a very interesting idea. We’ve been thinking of them as very pretty liars.

KRIS: Indeed.

JOHN: They are coming into their own here a little bit.

KRIS: The physical senses interpret specific idea constructions, and you rely entirely upon their singular interpretation. But they have the capacity to explore reality in a completely different manner.

Now as to the wisdom of the ages, inner wisdom, universal wisdom, in association with other expressions of essence, other focuses, each one of you regardless of your situation, if you are a Saint then indeed, in common vernacular an expression or focus is going to be dissimilar. If one is a Pope one is going to be a whore. If you are a mother you will be the child, you will be the father, you will be any other aspect of that relationship. If you are the lover you will also have one who is beloved. If you are the beloved you will be the lover. If you are the enemy one will be the victim. If you are the victim one will be the enemy. You will make use of all of the necessary belief structures and paradigms that you deem important to create a sense of equilibrium throughout all of these expressions.

You consider yourself, for example, as bereft of wisdom. There will be expressions who contain that wisdom. Some of those expressions will consider themselves bereft of wisdom in certain areas, wisdom YOU contain. Together all of the expressions of essence actually carry the necessary information to find as many ways as possible to physically represent all aspects of that wisdom and that knowledge without a fault.

So when you are in need of answers you may, for example, enter this sacred zone and you may even use imagery that typically represents someone wise, perhaps an aged monk in a far off land walking the hillside, gazing at the mountains and the rivers and the lakes, looking at the bamboo, seeing the fox and recognizing the imagery for what it represents. The tendency would be to merge with the main character to obtain at least through a kind of psychological osmosis the answer or answers or developing an association with that individuality.

But do not be so easily fooled. It might not necessarily be contained only in the character but everything you see, the mountains, the moon, the stars, the lake, the fox, the bamboo, including the individual because that will generate a specific mood and that mood will be represented and symbolized through all of the imagery that exists at that moment. Much like entering the dream state, every image in the dream contains expressions of wisdom. Does that make sense to you?

JOHN: Sure

KRIS: And the rest of you?

(Yes)

If a man, for instance, wishes to understand the role of motherhood, raising children, a similar process can be developed, tapping into his own feminine representations and communicate with other expressions that are mothers, that are raising children perhaps on their own, perhaps in extreme poverty and struggle and strife, perhaps as very well-to-do and providing their children with all of what could possibly be dreamed and everything in between including the giving birth and the losing of one’s child. That may have a powerful impact upon that individual’s testosterone levels.

The concept of the anima and the animus can be played with here as well because you all embody the qualities of both genders as you understand them. It is merely a matter of allowing that type of information to flow into your consciousness. You do so by intent and request. Does that make sense?

JOHN: Yes it does. A quick follow up here; I’m getting the feeling as we discuss these things that there’s very little we have to actually DO. If we have the intent then it just happens.

KRIS: You simply need occasional nudging to remind you that this is possible. You can, on the other hand, travel the world for wisdom and knowledge, seek gurus sitting on mountaintops, perform penances for millennia, only to discover that you possess this knowledge and wisdom to begin with. You simply had to recognize it. This is not an easy thing for a culture that denies the wisdom you already possess that would instead see you travel to the ends of the world to gain that knowledge at a high price whilst it exists within you. It is built into the cells of your body. It is built into your blood. It is built into your brain. It is built into your eyes because it composes you.

Your physical bodies then, on their own, are a beautiful symphony of ageless and timeless wisdom. You simply have to learn how to work the baton to make it sing its song and play its music. That comes with the direction of your conscious mind.

MYRNA: Say more about that.

KRIS: In what way?

QUESTION: How to tap it?

KRIS: Indeed. We will get into that. It is simply important to remember that every time you think that somehow or other you have lost touch with yourselves, that you are no longer connected to the Universe, it is not necessarily the reality, for though you will certain reap those thoughts, you feel yourself bereft of knowledge and wisdom and grounded-ness, but within your bones even sing the songs of eternity. Within your eyes and your ears and your hair there are beautiful refrains of universal songs. You merely have to tune to the right station to hear that broadcast exactly as you tune into the FM or AM frequencies to find that station. Do you follow?

(Yes)

Now we will give you a small break and we will return with a beautiful practice.

(Break begins at 8:24.)

(Recorder was paused during break so no discussion was recorded.)

(Session resumes at 8:36.)

KRIS: Now one of the secrets is to pay particular attention to your bodies. Do not ignore them. Your bodies communicate with you in a variety of ways. Many of you are aware of this when you apparently portray illness. Your bodies are communicating to you that something is amiss. You have ignored it far too long at your peril. If you had listened earlier you might have averted a physical situation.

Now, there are other ways to listen to your bodies, literally listen. You may find this somewhat disquieting especially if you are accustomed to thinking that your physical bodies themselves are a burden or an object that you must drag with you wherever you go. If those kinds of convictions make themselves known to you then we suggest modifying what you believe concerning your bodies. Your bodies are also far more than a lump of clay and a sack of blood and pus. That is only the surface most appearance.

You might also like to get over the idea that your bodies are fat, that your bodies are overweight or underweight or not the right shape or not pretty enough and so on and so forth, because all of this will interfere. They are all specific interpretations you have imposed upon your body through one means or another, whether comparison or as the result of telemarketing or television or modeling and so on and so forth. That would require that you develop an appreciation for your bodies. They are far more than simply being a device for they contain tremendous amounts of energy.

But they also contain, as we have hinted earlier, they also contain entire symphonies of potentials. They contain distant and ancient songs, songs of life unending, of life in heroic proportions, in epic proportions. They contain the voices and the emotions not only of your bloodline but also the ideas, the songs, the histories, the mythologies, the civilizations of your planet past, present and future.

So you are literally a walking library of living knowledge, woven into your form, your form, your form, yours and yours and yours and yours and yours and yours and yours (indicates each person in the room). You have woven these bodies with genetic material, material that comes from the earth, the stars, the millions of other bodies that have expressed themselves on this world and the millions that will express themselves after, some from your molecules, DNA, atoms and so on. You are made from the stuff of the earth and therefore you are related literally at the cellular level to all life on earth past, present and future. You are that singularity event, that moment point where time and space come together to create time/space Myrna, John, Helena and everyone here in particular. Not a single one of you is different or forgotten at that level.

In other words, you are then an ‘Expression of Eternity’. Within your bones, within your cells are found the echoes that are also found in the Universe. When the scientists and the astronomers and the physicists listen to signals from the depths of space, those same signals exist within your bodies. And with practice you can tap into that wisdom, that knowledge that has been miraculously woven into the tapestry of your form. Behind the skin, behind the blood, behind the bones there is another individual that gives energy to your body.

When that individuality extricates itself from your form you are considered dead. You are buried in the ground to feed the worms, which will create soil to feed the world; hence you are still connected to the cycle of life. Now that individual, that individuality is itself composed of everything that exists in the Universe because it is the Universe.

Now we wish to lead you in a small exercise that may allow you to tap into that wisdom even if in minute portions, even if you think nothing wise has revealed itself to you tonight. And if you do think that you are mistaken. The very fact that you are not only here but the very fact that you ARE is a sign of that wisdom; so do not be so ready to throw away your lives because you might consider them insignificant because you have a bad hair day. Do you understand?

Now, may you be so kind as to bring your chair a little closer. (Indicates a participant.) That is one way to get you to participate.

Now, what we suggest is that you sit as comfortably as you can. You may find that closing your eyes is more conducive to a relaxed state or you may find that keeping them open also enables you to enter a beautiful meditative state. Do what works for you. Keep listening to the sound of our voice. Take into account all other ambient sounds as important to relaxation and elements of your relaxation. Sounds. Colors fill you.

And become aware of the circle of individuals here, a grouping of individuals making a circle one way or another in this room. And imagine that, pretend that the circle begins with you and simultaneously imagine that the circle also begins with everyone else. Everyone IS the beginning of their circle. Together then there are many circles in this room and you are comfortable, completely at ease with this idea that your circle is part of the circle of everyone else. You are a series of interwoven circles. From everyone else the circle completes itself, reaching you in a manner that leaves you filled, well rounded, fulfilled, at peace.

And as you continue deepening your relaxation imagine one more time that there are now many circles emanating from everyone, circular, concentric emanations so that together you create a beautiful strand of circular emanations woven in all directions, a literal energetic strand of psychological or psychic DNA. And you are still the point of origin of your circle amongst all of these other circles, not one circle competing with another but instead complementing each other.

And imagine now that you are able to become the very center, not merely the point of origin but the very center of your circle. And from this central point you can see, you can imagine, you can feel the flow of the strands of all circles that you can possibly imagine, not only of everyone in this room but of countless individuals all beings past, all beings present, all beings future, and that the energy of their strands intersects with your circle. And in the very midst of this, at the very center of all of this activity you are peaceful. You simply are.

And you may choose a particular angle of perception. You may choose a thought. And allow yourself to see the thought come to you. Take awareness of it. Relate to it in a way that is comfortable for you. For some of you it may be like a cloud across the horizon, moving from one direction towards another. However you wish to see that. And hear the idea is not to grab the thoughts, to retain them but simply to interact in a manner that gives it complete freedom to evolve, to transform itself in any way that it does. Allow it full freedom to leave as it continues its transformation.

And return to the peaceful center of your circle amongst all of the other circles in eternity. And slowly remember the ambient sounds in this room, remember the very idea of your body in its chair or couch. Breathe deeply. Wiggle fingers and toes. Open your eyes. And together clap your hands. (Everyone claps.)

Now do you wish a small break to recuperate?

(Yes)

KRIS: Indeed then, a few moments.

(Break begins at 8:57.)

(Session resumes at 9:02.)

KRIS: 1-0

ALEX: 9:02 (Alex asks him to repeat himself.)

KRIS: 1-0 (Repeats what was said but no one understands.)

MYRNA: What are you saying Kris?

[Mark’s Notes: Kris is making a 90210 joke that went right over everyone’s head.]

KRIS: 90210

ALEX: Yes

KRIS: Indeed. (Everyone laughs.)

MYRNA: No! No Paul, not at all.

KRIS: Now, the key indeed is to recognize…the tendency is for you to think and believe that if you do not dissect, mulch, munch, swallow and eat all of the thoughts that come to your mind, somehow or other your individuality will be diminished, so you very often emotionally, subjectively react to countless numbers of thoughts that cross your mind on a daily basis and often you get yourselves in a pickle concerning them. And most of the time the thoughts have nothing to do with your present situation and if they do you often amplify them out of proportion… The old adage of making mountains of molehills, whiles in reality the thought merely contains information that you easily tend to distort and you attach significances to that that often again causes undue problems.

The idea of this exercise was specifically to help you recognize that you can be in observer or witness mode and simply observe, take into account the concept, the thought, the energy as it enters your sphere of influence from apparently outside to moving within your sphere of influence and eventually to moving outside of your sphere of influence.

Now, there is the flip side of the coin to this idea. It is not necessarily that thoughts fly by like bird in the sky or clouds, but that you weave in and out of your own awareness on a continual basis from wave to particle to wave again, each time becoming aware of a different even if ever so slightly different aspect of your persona.

Now your precious egos actually perform a much-needed function. The ego takes all of this into account and like a master tailor or seamstress stitches it all together so that you in your present focus, you do not necessarily feel discouraged and somewhat overwhelmed by the inner reality of the events because you are accustomed to focusing in the outer reality of events. So it tries to create a sense of balance.

You can, however, continue such an apparently sophisticated practice simply by cultivating the witness or observer and realizing how you focus your energies, your consciousness into various areas of reality and therefore expanding the base of your recognition about your abilities with consciousness, taking into account more and more of what reality is over and above the interpretation your senses give you about reality.

Frustrations may come about as the result of wanting to immediately understand the process, which actually is non-linear. And this particular exercise is tricky because it leads you into areas that are non-linear, but it relies upon your being accustomed to working with linear functions. So we are attempting to help you create a bridge, a literal consciousness bridge for you to engage more of your reality. It is not an easily accomplished feat and MAY, and we will close our pretty eyes so that you do not think we are singling anyone out, but it MAY at times cause frustration.

Now, this is also expected. Remember all of the different times you learned something new. You did not grasp the new concepts and teachings and materials immediately. You often went through stages of battling… waging war with yourselves, with the information until suddenly you stopped resisting and the material made itself known to you. Does that make sense?

JOHN: Like a language, like learning a language.

KRIS: Indeed and this is the language of consciousness. You are all a different language of consciousness, but you have a common base deeper within the psyche. Each of the nationalities and the languages on your planet have a common root, whether linguists can recognize it or not is irrelevant. You are using linear functions to interpret and express elements of consciousness. You do that through language. That is an interpretation of consciousness.

You are also an interpretation of consciousness. That is why we said earlier then that in your bones, in your cells, in your hair, in your eyes, in your toes, in your noses, in your ears, in your beard, in your teeth, everywhere the entire body is a wonderful symphony of countless songs. Songs that not only can remind you of the heroic feats of simply being but that also send distant echoes to future selves to remind them that they too are expressions of your songs. Does that make ANY sense at all?

(Yes)

ALEX: I have a question.

KRIS: Indeed.

ALEX: I actually understand what you’re saying from… I don’t know what perspective. I have found myself at that crossroads where I have tried to understand something linear, in a linear way that was non-linear. You mentioned that we should not try to understand this because it’s non-linear, but yet it’s working with our linear way of thinking. How can we do that?

KRIS: Indeed, you are simply engaging aspects of consciousness, your consciousness, in much like the dream state. What you recall of the dream is the surface-most interpretation of the massive event that already was fully engaged before you appeared on the scene, and once you extricate yourself out of the dream it continues. It has its own reality that appears to be objective. But it is also part of you. You are simply not focused in the dream any longer.

It does not mean that the dream has ended. And you can verify that because most of you may remember that you can return to a dream, perhaps that same night or at other times. Even dreams that you had as youths you suddenly find yourself involved in that same dream. You returned your focus to that area of your being, of your expression. It has never ceased to exist. It still exists, but unbeknownst to you, you assume that because it is not part of your present experience, it no longer existed.

As easily as you think that for instance the Roman Era, the time of the Babylonians and many others have ceased to exist because they are not part of the present historical makeup. But they exist. Your civilization has collectively chosen to focus elsewhere into what you call your present civilization.

ALEX: This is where the frustration comes in. How are to understand this non-linear stuff when we’re linear?

KRIS: But you already do. How do you understand your consciousness? You do not necessarily know how, but without that knowledge still you are able to translate consciousness into the atoms and the molecules from head to toe. You do not know how you do this. You never learned how to see with your eyes. You never learned to hear or to think. There are no courses in physical reality that teach you how to see, hear, think, smell, taste.

ALEX: So it’s not so much that I understand how, it’s just becoming aware of it.

KRIS: Indeed.

ALEX: You’ve been saying that for the last hour and a half.

KRIS: Now you have become aware of that. (Laughter)

ALEX: Okay

KRIS: Indeed, so you have within your beings beautiful symmetries of mysteries because you are the mysterious that you seek high and low to understand. You do not know how you sing. Correct? You know that all you have to do is intend and somehow or other through some means that can be scientifically explained to a certain degree, your lungs push air in a certain manner through the vocal chords and so on and so forth. But that only explains the mechanism. It does not explain the source.

MYRNA: So all we need to do is intend. I don’t mean that frivolously.

KRIS: Indeed. It takes a special type of intention. You intended. You desired to have physical life as that individual, that individual and so on and so forth.

JOHN: Actually I have a question on that if I may.

KRIS: Indeed.

JOHN: From what we’ve been learning we have pretty awesome capacities as Essence. And here we have chosen, I have chosen to be John in this focal personality and to set aside virtually all of those awesome capacities of Essence, to set aside in order to what? What is it that I’m getting as John from this experience of life that’s worth me setting aside 99.9% of my abilities?

KRIS: Now, not so many of the abilities have been set aside. But without being John everyone here this evening may not have the realization that they would have missed John, but without you they would indeed have. They would have missed a portion of their individuality expressed through you. And the same works in reverse. Each of the individuals here in some way ARE an expression of John. Through their eyes you can appreciate more of whom and what you are, etc. and vice versa.

Out of the sweetness of each of your intentions you have given of yourselves to participate in a beautiful experimentation that could not be done anywhere else in any other way. That experiment is you and you and you and you. The greatest composers in the world are only focusing on their composition, excepting of course Beethoven. He is decomposing. (Laughter)

But when the composer intends a piece all of his or her energies go into it. Every note is a uniquely thought out process. Not necessarily conscious, but it becomes part of the symphony that he or she is creating. They are literally extensions of that individual. And without that note or that note or that note the composition is worthless, is off-key. There is something missing. You are a note of your own composition. Does that make sense?

JOHN: To paraphrase then, I came here as John and chose to set aside 87% of my capacities (Laughter) in order to….

KRIS: We are getting into reducing it. (Laughter)

JOHN: In order to participate with these fine musical folks with making an experiment of a beautiful symphony.

KRIS: Indeed, now. Where IS the rest of you? Indeed, part of tonight’s practice is to have you recognize more what you think you have forgotten.

ALEX: Is this understanding our connection to That Which Is All? Is this part of it?

KRIS: More so of enabling yourselves to remember the whole. You are always connected even when you think you are not. You are still always connected.

ALEX: So what is the whole?

KRIS: It is very big. (Laughter) And yet it occupies no space.

ALEX: Or all space.

KRIS: Indeed, it is nothing and ALL at the same time. These apparent conundrums create a very Zen-like mindset and within that is where you find answers, in the middle of everything because you are the middle of everything. You are the middle of everything and you are, each of you. Remember the exercise.

ALEX: We’re both the beginning and the end.

KRIS: Indeed, you are the Alpha and the Omega and every other letter of the alphabet.

Now then, what is the time?

ALEX: 9:23

KRIS: Indeed then, we believe that you have much to ponder, many circles to explore. Are there questions before we retire for the evening?

MYRNA: I have a personal one, if I may. I’m back to the body issue that you mentioned earlier.

KRIS: Continue

MYRNA: My blood pressure. I see it more than just my body telling me something. I see it more than just that I have ignored something. I haven’t ignored it. I have it here for a reason. And I would like to develop the ability to listen more deeply to what I’m telling myself through this because I don’t get it.

KRIS: Do you recall when we spoke about asking why?

MYRNA: No, I’d forgotten about it but I recall it, yes.

KRIS: Indeed, we might suggest that you specifically focus on asking why repeatedly to every thought that comes to your mind about that issue. Regardless if the thoughts seem irrelevant or the answers seem unclear, keep asking why. Your mind wanders. Bring it back. It is a wonderful exercise in disciplining the mind as well. When you are on a specific track and keep asking why and after 15 minutes stop. Do not try to make heads or tails of anything at that moment. Leave it and so something different. Return to it the next day and keep exploring why, like the miner digging for diamonds, keeping at it with his pick, digging and digging until suddenly the jewel is to be found.

MYRNA: It’s a matter of a thought comes up and…..here’s an example. I want to lower my blood pressure and I just say why? Is that the point? The thought comes in and I……

KRIS: An example. Say you watched a television program and it gave you specific impressions. For example, you watched a scene where there were boxers.

MYRNA: Boxers?

KRIS: Indeed, you may be interested in finding out why you watched it, why it may have left specific feelings within you. Every time an answer comes keep asking why. It may say in your mind that it is about how silly people are with their violence. ‘Why did I think that?’ An answer may come to your mind.

MYRNA: And then ‘Why did I think that?’

KRIS: Continue asking why. Give it time. Keep asking why. Do not censor. Keep asking why.

MYRNA: ‘Why did I think that?’

KRIS: Indeed. ‘Why did I think that?’

MYRNA: Okay. That helps.

KRIS: Indeed, you may find at the end of your exercise, the initial one at least, that it is enough for awhile. It may be getting too close to home. This is a wonderful exercise in not taking inventory of one’s own thought processes, especially the thoughts you did not think you might be able to entertain because it will dig and bring to the surface holes. Does that make sense?

As far as momentary and immediate physical relief for your blood pressure, we suggest a tea of hawthorn leaves at least two to three times a day.

Now what is the time?

ALEX: 9:29

KRIS: Indeed then we will leave you to ponder your own circles and mysteries and conundrums and do keep in mind there are no mysteries more interesting and worthy of discovery than yourselves. And may you sleep mysteriously well. (Laughter)

(Session ends at 9:29 and recorder is turned off.)

(Kris returns at 9:30 in response to discussion.)

KRIS: You make far too much out of wanting to label and dissect and identify every single little knick-knack of a thought. Whether something comes from Essence or from intuition may be entirely irrelevant, but that you recognize that this exists is important. As such thoughts as you understand them from the human perspective are literal drops from an ocean of living energy. We gave you all of those hints to see this. Regardless of what meditative state you enter into, regardless of where you gradually, systematically shift the focus of your awareness in any direction, you will always encounter thoughts because they are your interpretation, your subjective interpretation of massive concepts that themselves build Universes. And that is only a small function of Essence.

Imagine consciousness rooms where planets are created, solar systems are created. Imagine consciousness departments where different races are created, different plant species, different animals, creatures, mammals, insects, different stars, even other Universes. This we consider to be the industry of consciousness and in your terms it is massive.

ALEX: So what I was trying to ask why and that thought came into my head, did I just tap into a well that anybody could have tapped into?

KRIS: Indeed

ALEX: And had that same thought?

KRIS: Not necessarily. Someone in China would not have thought ‘raccoon’. They would probably have thought ‘lunch.’ (Everyone cracks up.) Do you understand?

ALEX: I don’t care to! (More laughter)

KRIS: Suffice it to say that you are that intersecting point of time and space. You are the center. There is an immense Universe of idea constructions, of thought energy. It flows in and out of you at any given time. It is impossible to not have this flow in and out of you, but you only grab onto certain thoughts according to your belief structures, your convictions, etc. So it is like taking a microscope to try to examine a Universe. You only see a small, small portion of it and you give it an interpretation.

MYRNA: So perhaps being aware of that as a gift as all that’s necessary, of that moment of being in touch with ‘All That Is’, is all that’s necessary rather than trying to figure out where that thought came from, I think is what I hear.

ALEX: Okay

KRIS: Indeed.

ALEX: But if it’s precognitive, if somebody speaks something that is precognitive. What is that?

KRIS: It is precognitive. Time and space intersect through you. That means that past, present, future, past past, present past, future past, past future, present future, future future and all combinations imaginable all intersect through you. You create your reality according to the pieces you choose for yourself in this particular expression. That may very well include communications from a self of yours that is barely five minutes into the future. You might not be aware of that self because you are focused here. You are not focused there. Does that make sense to you?

ALEX: That makes sense to me now.

MYRNA: However, Kris, let’s take that as the example. I get that, a part of me five minutes into the future, another focal expression. What’s any of that got to do with creating my own reality? I’m getting to the stage here where it is so immense that I just appreciate being in touch with the vastness. I have lost all sense of how to create my own reality from what you’re giving us, frankly. It used to be very clear when I studied Law of Attraction. (Laughs) Right? (Looking at John.) Very clear, but this isn’t clear at all. I mean that’s okay, but I have no idea how to now funnel what you’ve now given us into creating my own reality.

KRIS: Because your reality is far more than moment to moment that you can conceive of. However, all you have to do is remember who you are. You are simply an expression of great vastness. You are Earth Goddess walking one step ahead of the other ahead of the other, feeling your earth body reverberate with each of your steps, whether you are walking on the sidewalk, in the supermarket. You touch vegetables and produce and items. You cook. You sleep. You dream. You are therefore an Earth Goddess living your divine self.

MYRNA: I got that.

KRIS: Indeed, where is the complication?

MYRNA: If it’s that simple, moment by moment by moment, then creating my own reality is only in that moment.

KRIS: Only in the moment. Every time you shift your focus of awareness you have indeed created differently, if only slightly altered differently.

Now we understand that because of your mental processes you do want the big picture but you sometimes become overwhelmed with it exactly in the same way somebody would see that they have ten tasks to accomplish that day and they keep all ten tasks in their mind all day long, wondering about all ten tasks at the same time. And at the end of the day not a single task has been accomplished. Do you follow?

The solution then is to forget about the nine others of your choice and concentrate on the one task, bringing back your concentration to the one practical moment. Does that make sense to you? And YOUR practical moment is to be who you are, a most lovely self.

MYRNA: Thank you. And then how I create my reality is by the beliefs that I take there.

KRIS: Indeed.

MYRNA: Yes, of course.

KRIS: Now with that then we will leave you to create your own reality, however you wish to create it, and may they all be as lovely as yourselves.

(Session ends at 9:40.)

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