A Vision of Philip – A Private Chat with Mark

February 28, 2005

Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois
Transcribed by Marcy Singer (Arindel)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on February 28, 2005
© Copyright 2005 Avion Rising Inc.

Private chat between Mark (Philip) and Kris after the February 28, 2005 Dinner and a Dead Guy Session.

[Mark’s Notes: During the meditation I had a vision. I saw a King. He had grey hair and a grey beard. If I had to date him, I would say he was either from the biblical era or from King Arthur’s time. He had a gold crown (very solid) with lots of big jewels on it and lots of rings. He also had that fur lined jacket. It was a very stereotypical image.

What I perceived from the image was kindness, love, wisdom and humor.

The audio recorder was still connected to the phone line, but because the call had ended it wasn’t recording anything. I realized this part way in and disconnected it.

During that lapse of time, Kris told me that I had indeed sensed Philip, but what I saw was not Philip. It was a TRANSLATION of his energies. What I formulated in my mind was a wise, kind, joyous and loving image.]

[I re-start the recorder at this point]

MARK: You often give essence names, tones, based on a particular lifetime. Where does the name Philip come from?

KRIS: Indeed. It comes from that specific lifetime where you were associated with Chrodora. Though you may still find it quite humorous that you were considered nothing more than a gardener, we did explain that in those days the gardener was usually considered the local healer, healer with herbs.

In this lifetime that you were the gardener, you achieved a high degree of value fulfillment. You organized your existence in a manner that enabled you to be a serene, to be contemplative, in fact in many terms you were more Buddha-like than anything else. You were also able to practice these ancient healing arts with herbs.

As we also suggested you taught many of these practical healing methods to Chrodora. This is where Joseph’s blossoming interest in pursuing a certification as an herbalist comes from, the things that you taught, which is obviously shared knowledge through the auspices of essence.

The name Joseph comes from a specific existence as two individuals with very similar names, one female, one male, approximately 100 years apart in the Palestine area. We are talking ancient here, this one lifetime. Likely 1300-1400 years what you call Before the Common Era (BCE) at a time when certain sects of ancient Hebrews had migrated south, likely as far south as Tunisia on the African west coast, we believe, raised a family. (Was) More of a local councilman in terms of politics and social standing. Was a relatively good father, which sometimes still shows through in his dealings with children. Do you follow?

The other lifetime in particular (pause) was of that lifetime where Joseph had a dream recall of his being a large, black mother of many children. Do you recall?

MARK: Yes I do.

[The dream is posted at the bottom of this transcript]

KRIS: In that lifetime the name was quite close to Josanna, with some variation we find it difficult to pronounce, it was a combination of Creole. Do you follow?

MARK: Yes.

KRIS: Again, this time not only raised many children but also many other women’s children, which did not become apparent in the dream. But also experienced a type of grief that evolved into despair. This in part is responsible for the decision that in this lifetime there should be no children as is commonly considered but instead other kinds of children, such as what you are creating with this legacy.

MARK: Yes.

KRIS: These are also your children.

MARK: And that’s because of the death of that, the murder of her son. (In the dream)

KRIS: Indeed, partially responsible for it.

MARK: The despair… Uh, Philip. Did he come to the mainland with Chrodora or was he already there?

KRIS: Indeed. (Did come with Chrodora to the mainland.)

MARK: He did. Was he a lot older?

KRIS: Indeed. In some manner of speaking considered, though there were no blood ties, considered Chrodora to be as a daughter.

MARK: Was she ill?

KRIS: Indeed. There were forms of cancers appearing in her body. Now do understand though we have mentioned that all illness comes from the mind, not all illness is a sign of failure at reality creation, which is often a distortion of what some people consider to be truth. Some individual’s personal challenges are sometimes considered best fought on the battle grounds of the flesh. Do you understand?

MARK: Yes.

KRIS: The body becoming the battlefield. There are belief paradigms, the opposing armies. (Pause) Now we believe that also over the next few weeks you should make some preparations for Anderson.

MARK: What preparations are necessary?

KRIS: Reminding Joseph.

MARK: Okay. Who is Anderson in relation to you?

KRIS: Another essence body engaged in completely different actions.

MARK: Speaking of essence bodies, the source self for Miriam and Jarasen.

KRIS: Leilandra.

MARK: Spell that?

KRIS: LEILANDRA

MARK: Okay. Taaj?

KRIS: Indeed.

MARK: Okay.

KRIS: Now then we believe that you need the rest that you are giving to yourselves, but do keep in mind to not distance personal discussions over such great periods of time. Do you understand?

MARK: Discussions with you?

KRIS: Indeed.

MARK: Yes

KRIS: Because it’s been some time.

MARK: Yes it has.

KRIS: Then we leave you to your lovely Philip self.

MARK: Thank you.

Ends at 10:14

Here is a dream I posted elsewhere and thought it might be of interest to share here as well. Yes, it’s quite a trip down inner memory lane for sure when we meet our other selves. Here is a dream I had at least 11 years ago, maybe 12, very powerful too:

I am a large black woman (and maybe about 50 years old-ish) during the
time of the American Civil War. I had many children whom I each loved
dearly, and our entire family had gotten the chance to run away from
the south by the Underground Railroad, except one – the youngest. We
are now all safely in the north, and I am on a hillside, awaiting the
arrival of my youngest boy.

He arrives in the north much later because a good man from the south
had seen that my youngest was interested in reading and writing, so
this good man took it upon himself to risk breaking the law and teach
my baby all he needed to know to make a better life for the entire
family. We all are, especially me (mom) SO proud of him. Though I have
many children and love them all, he is the special one, the one with a
gift for intelligence in the family and he fills my heart with great
joy and pride and I am so thankful.

So, the youngest stayed behind for longer than the rest of the family
and he learned how to read and write and perhaps months later now, he
was finally on the train to come meet his family up north after having
escaped through the underground railroad with the help of his teacher.
I am up on this hillside actually watching the train turn the curb
around the next green valley (so much green here up north in the hills
and the great blue sky) and make its way like a smoking caterpillar to
meet me. I am both the black mom and I am also able to observe her
from an upper corner of the dream as well, and I can see in the
distance amidst the small hills and valleys that the train is puffing
its big clouds of smoke and suddenly: I am aware of two things
happening all at once from difference vantage points!

First, I am in the wagon on the train where my youngest son is, and I
see two men jump the train and rush in with their guns and they shoot
all blacks on the train, including my baby son.

Then I am also on the hill not far from the little train station and
the train stops and I wait for my son, but instead the conductor comes
to me and tells me a terrible thing happened and my baby son has been
killed.

At that moment, I am fully IN her, and feel her sudden powerful, deep
and heart ripping agony… the horrible agony only a mother can feel
when her child is killed, dies before her, especially in cold blood.
I feel her heart heave and her intense desire to die on the spot, her
wailing and wanting to have been the one instead to die so her baby
could live life as a free man and teach others to read and write as he
wanted.

I am swept up in her ocean of suffering as she makes a dreadful
decision… and though she has many other children (most of whom are
older), she decides to turn from the world now and enters a convent,
never to come out again and she eventually dies a broken woman who had
lost the will to live… she was a large woman, but by the time she
herself passes away probably less than a year later from a broken
heart, she is very skinny and frail.

As I’m writing this dream right now, I am again feeling her heart, her
sorrow and tears are caught in my throat and welling up in my chest
and eyes. Wow, what a powerful experience, even recalling it at least
10 years later!!

When I woke up from that dream, my face and pillow were soaked of
course. I knew without a doubt I was momma in the dream, and my baby
son was my partner at the time, soundly sleeping besides me.

I also learned that it is possible to ‘know’ what another feels when
something happens to someone else, and that I can empathize to a good
degree. I can know what its like to walk in someone else’s shoes so to
speak, as I just did, and though it was done in the dream state, the
impact was not lessened in the least. And I now know what a mother
(perhaps either parent) would feel at the loss of their child. There
are certainly other things available in this dream that I haven’t yet
opened up to, but you can probably understand why I would want to open
up slowly to it.

The Magic Comes From Within

February 28, 2005

Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois
Transcribed by Marcy Singer (Arindel)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on February 28, 2005
© Copyright 2005 Avion Rising Inc.

Roll call in Toronto: Mark (Philip) and Serge (Joseph)

In Oregon: Norm (Ambrose) and Reta (Leihuu)

In Castaic: Paul H. (Janaki), Jo (Rosalie), Paul T. (Antolian), Ester (Benata), Jene (Mildor), Drew (Onoru) and Sara (Chiroco)

(Session begins at 8:00)

KRIS: Indeed we thank you for your consideration and for participating in the creation of this evening’s session and as all good magicians know, the magic comes from within, regardless of any notions you may hold about your personal preferences, your convictions, or your ideas about within or without or of selfhood.

The magic operates without any interference from all of your various notions and inklings. It is what it is and you make use of its marvelous qualities in order to induce the necessary transformations from one state of consciousness into another that you call matter, the physical world or physical reality. And yet in spite of all of the many pretty notions that you entertain, this magic still operates whether you are consciously focused or not, whether you are physically focused or not, still the magic exists.

And that over the centuries various voices have expressed ideas and philosophies and the information concerning this magic and its source, and depending upon the social times, the information is addressed according to the customs and the times so as to continuously lead your race from one stage of understanding into another. And not in terms of one stage being better than another but that you simply flow through various philosophical and psychological atmospheres.

And as you travel these atmospheres you become aware of information suitable to your present state, as does the rest of Humankind. And as time goes on this type of information will evolve, will change, will continue to transform the times and the societies populated by humankind as it has always done and as it will always continue to do. And there will be many different voices such as ourselves, exactly like there has been in your past as it is in your present and that it will be in your futures, always voices speaking the magical language of consciousness, the songs and the symphonies of the soul that individuals may not always hear but need to pay attention to so that the information can start taking root in the soil of your minds to bear fruit in the future generations of humankind. And always you bring about societies, cultures and civilizations that in one way or another seek out this type of information, helping to give it a voice, a voice that comes from that magical place within yourselves.

And we point this out to hopefully bring your attention to recognize that you are not the product of your civilization or your cultures or your nations, but that instead your nations and your cultures and your civilizations are the byproduct of that magical process of creation, and through these cultures and nations and civilizations the sweet song of your souls finds expressions, finds voices and individuals willing to give up themselves to make this song into the words and the sentences appropriate for your type of discovery.

So we are hoping that this small pearl indeed puts a twist on your notions of reality creation and value creation, for that is where the heart of the magic exists, deep within the recesses of your soul, deep into the thoughts that you do not pay attention to, so that eventually you hear the voices and the songs and the entire chorus of essence expressing itself in a manner that can reach you objectively and subjectively.

So we thought we would open the evening with this little tidbit and further encourage you to kick in those mental gears so that the vast industry of world creating is kicked up a notch. And the idea that some people may hold that the information given by one source or another source must somehow or other be the absolute definitive word on reality and consciousness is somewhat misleading.

Instead you give yourselves through our humble voices the information and the materials and the tools and the resources that you can manage at this moment point, at this peak of experience. But definitive and absolute it is not for it is as ever changing as the magic that allows you to change your form from the infant to the teenager to the adult without you having to take any courses and lessons in growing body parts effortlessly and seamlessly, though with some scraped knees and shins. You have become the individual you now are, and this individual always understands that it rests upon a vast storehouse of knowledge always available to it if it but listens.

And when you think you do not hear a voice, you end up in evenings like this one so that our melodious voice can ring against your eardrums, catch your attention, (laughter), and lead you to ponder that there is indeed a greater mystery, a greater magic at work, a magic unlike any you would ever find in books or in Hollywood (laughter). There is a magic that can only be summed up and packaged as each of your lovely selves.

And thus whenever you may find yourselves bemoaning your misfortunes, remind yourselves that instead you have the power to transform your moment into a fortunate event by merely redirecting the focus of your attention into the realm of the greatest magic there can ever be, the realm of selfhood. But that is tricky for it implies a willingness to change, transform and literally to create countless cascading rajas or actions of consciousness, and once that willingness is engaged you need only look towards some of the material that we have provided you with for example concerning the Sisters, which has been with you and your race and your civilizations and your cultures and your religions since the dawn of time, and as we pointed out last week, you have even used these tools to create the dawn of time.

And as we have explained over these last few months and weeks, these Sisters indeed are not new, but they have been sometimes obscured and imbedded in your sacred or religious texts, and as was pointed out earlier even in the Judeo-Christina and related traditions, they have been translated as angelic beings. That is another slight deviation from the original topic, but whether they are considered the Muses, the Daemons, not demons but Daemons in ancient Greek, or Dakinis or angels, they all are translations, sometimes distortions of this living dynamic essence, a powerful matrix of energies within the human psyche. And you have used these tools as a resource because they are most practical.

And we also shared this information because you often read how the individual creates his or her reality, and you also read and hear about how this is done sometimes through the auspices of your feelings and perceptions and convictions, but behind all of these stands the Sisters, this dynamic matrix that is translated through your convictions, through your perceptions and so on and so forth. These are the essential components of the human psyche.

At this point in time in your civilization you are at a crossroads engaging and embarking in this shift in consciousness, and you are seeking tools, methods, and valuable understandings to help you navigate this greater transformation that you have activated as a collective. And this information is easily understood because it is a state that already exists and is present within you. It is an active principle of your being.

But it is relatively easy to make use of this information without worrying one single iota that this information reverts back to the days of gods and goddesses, for the days of the gods and goddesses are themselves are byproducts of these Sisters. And that is how they are presented in one specific context.

So there is much to discover with this material, and we see your continued exploration along those lines. And as you continue the exploration, you alter and transform not only the information itself but the whole of the line of human history and all of its variables and potentials because that is something you cannot keep yourselves from doing. It is part and parcel of the very process of this magical creative power within you.

A hundred years from now similar materials will surface and apply for the times and the generations that will span time, and it will again be somewhat different. For none of this material, regardless of the source or the information itself can be absolute. It must be ever changing, just as you are ever changing, just as your world ever changes because that is its nature.

And with this we will give you a magical break.

(Break begins at 8:23.)

There was appreciation concerning Kris talking about the magical information, i.e. channeling, and how this information will continue to be presented over the next 100 years.

There was discussion around Kris’ comments that although we believe our governments and our societies and our cultures creates US that in reality it is the opposite. However, Serge recommended NOT going to the White House and announcing that you are going to make some changes, although there was the admission that people DO fantasize about that.

Jo made some remarks concerning the Arthurian legend of the nine women with their cauldrons who were sought by nine knights and how this may also relate to the concepts presented by the Nine Sisters.

There was appreciation expressed concerning how Kris was obviously picking up on ideas and thoughts that people in the group had, even the term ‘psychological atmosphere’ that Mark had been thinking about from a walk last summer.

Serge remarked that although it always seems as if Kris is giving us information in very simple terms, in reality it is very vast and complex in relation to the depth and scope of the information, and this comes from Serge’s “inside” perspective during the delivery. He also commented how Kris has a knack of taking complex subjects and making them understandable to us.

There were comments about Kris’ broader perspective as opposed to ours, and Mark pointed out that we are FOCUSES of attention in one direction whereas Kris focuses in many directions.

Comments were also made concerning the whole concept of the action of ‘translation’ such as from essence to focus or from energy into matter.

Paul H. asked the question of how does Kris die to himself in his native focus of attention? How does essence die or in other words how does essence transform from one state into another? Is there some kind of essence death analogous to the death of the body that we experience in physical reality? Is there a forgetting and a remembering?

(Session resumes at 8:33.)

KRIS: To answer your question about dying, it is no different from the dying that you experience when you left behind the form of the infant or the teenager or the young adult and all of the world relevant to that expression of yourself. At this point you are focused in your adulthoods and you do not anticipate that in some manner of speaking you will die to the middle adult and become a mature adult.

To the eyes of others when you need to process your form beyond that imagery’s capacities, the others perceive that you die in your classic terms, but you do not experience something of that event. You encounter again an expansion but one much more dramatic than when you left behind the infant, the teenager or the adult and in this way there is a significant process slightly related to time as you understand it in the here and now where you get acclimatized into your new environment where the entire psychological atmosphere is no longer restricted to the psychology and the physics of psychology pertinent to the human imagery, but more one akin to the state of essence.

That is again a process of transformation, another kind of raja, another action of consciousness, an action of transformation from one state to another, which enables the automatic creation of everything necessary in that environment to maintain your frame of reference relevant to that state of existence. And as was pointed out just as you create change and transform magically the cultures and the nations and the civilizations you find yourself in, so does the various states of existence change and create the environment necessary to sustain that state, again seemingly magically. Does that make some sense?

PAUL H: Yes it does.

MARK: In relation to Brahm what kind of cycle do you go through? Are your transformations as dramatic as our deaths or are they more like going from child to teenager?

KRIS: Your deaths are only traumatic because you are afraid.

MARK: I said ‘dramatic.’

KRIS: They are dramatic because you are also afraid. There is in each of you a small tiny drama queen. (Laughter)

PAUL T: Some larger than others.

KRIS: Indeed, now we believe that we have answered that question. It is in a transcript in the past. These cycles are in your terms in the billions of years and we have seen several cycles already.

MARK: Right.

KRIS: Do you recall?

MARK: Yes.

KRIS: Indeed. Our perceptions can be maintained and entertained for very long periods of your time and still as the days turn into the nights for you these are merely days and nights for us, these cycles.

JO: Kris, I’d like to ask a question. This is Rosalie.

KRIS: Indeed.

JO: About the presence of these Sisters in myth and lore. When I was investigating the Lady of the Lake mythology I came across a reference to nine women who had a magical cauldron that was sought by nine knights. Is this a reference to the Sisters? The women with the cauldron, that is?

KRIS: Indeed, as in many other cultures, folklores and legends and mythologies you find some reference to these psychological archetypes. They are present in all of your world’s cultures to one degree or another.

JO: Is it the case that in some cultures that these energies are viewed as real people?

KRIS: There are times when such interpretations are valid in context to the time frame of the culture. And these over time change. The mythologies are added to and transformed, as is the entire process of creation. It is not static. Were it static it would stagnate and your race would extinguish itself, but it will automatically recreate other kinds of cultures and civilizations to continue the process of discovery.

We would like now to ask if you are of a mind to do some traveling into those magical inner domains of consciousness.

ALL: Sure. Yes.

KRIS: (Delivered slowly and deliberately with many pauses.) Then indeed we will ask each and every one of you to sit as comfortably as you can, and as you continue to hear the sound of our voice, you focus and direct your attention to the energy within the voice and the words. And you begin a relaxation process so that all of the muscles in your face, on your scalp, in your jaw, at the back of the head, in the neck, all the way down the body (Pause) you feel the tension released (Pause) from the muscles even from the tissue and the fiber within each muscle cell. (Pause)

And your breathing itself becomes rhythmic and deeper so that the whole body awareness and breathing and heartbeat and relaxation acquire the same feel as when you enter deep sleep and REM state, or Rapid Eye Movement. Even though you will not fall asleep, your body will enter that mood, that Rasa, (Pause) and your thoughts and perceptions will be crystal clear whilst your body rests and relaxes. (Pause)

And the rest and relaxation continues down your body into the arms and hands, into the waist, the pelvic area, the hips, the thighs, the legs and to the feet so that you feel your whole being is in an experience of quiet deep relaxation whilst your mental faculties are sharp and clear and aware. (Pause)

And as you continue to deepen your state by listening to the sound of our voice, (Pause) become aware of the inside of your head where your brain is engaged in the relaxation, where the neurons are firing at the exact rate that allows states of deep relaxation whilst still enabling clear perceptions from your mental faculties. (Pause)

And as you continue relaxation, draw your attention to the inside of your cranium which itself is made up of various cranial plates that come together in cranial fissures. (Pause) And through the magic of your perception these cranial fissures are opening up, the plates are gently moving apart from each other so that there is an expansion in the cranium. (Pause)

And as the cranium opens and the plates separate gently, become aware of an acceleration of consciousness within your beings. (Pause) Allow yourself to slip through the fissures in the cranial plates so that you know yourself as energy. (Pause) And from where you are allow yourself to still be tied to the energy of our voice while simultaneously rising above your bodies (Pause) up towards the ceiling (Pause) and even passing through to find yourselves outside. (Pause)

And you continue to rise past the treetops, past the rooftops, even passing the clouds into the upper atmospheres and stratospheres (Pause) up toward the ionosphere, above all of these things into the magnetic field of your world. And just casting your awareness about, you see your world getting smaller as you rise. You may even see the moon and in the distance you can see many points of light, which are other celestial bodies, other suns, other stars. (Pause)

And in this enhanced state cast your awareness like a net towards the other planets and moons that orbit around the sun, the local star. And sense the powerful physics and energies involved (Pause) in keeping this solar system with all of its many planets, some newly discovered, and their moons (Pause) orbiting around the sun. (Pause)

And as you continue your focusing on this awareness, (Pause) allow your perceptions to expand enough so that you also become aware of other solar systems in the apparent distance. (Pause) And as you continue to be so aware, find, allow yourself to be directed towards literal astronomical celestial forms of energies that could appear to your sensory perceptions as folds and bends in the fabric of space-time. They could be pools and ponds and reservoirs of energies. They could be curves that lead to valleys and peaks within the very fabric of space-time. (Pause)

And allow yourselves to be drawn into these reservoirs of energy. (Pause) And recognize that these are psychological places that you can go to to recharge your energies deep into the fabric of your psyches. And as you would in a pond or a lake feel free to dip from your toes to your entire form of energy into these reservoirs of energy consciousness. And feel free to absorb as much energy as you can accommodate. (Pause)

And remember that you have a physical form in the room where you are listening to our voice. (Pause) And allow yourself to direct a beam of this cosmic energy towards that physical image of yours that is sitting listening to our voice. (Pause) And through the very fabric of space-time this beam of energy you are sending reaches into the living room or the room into that very body that is your image. And you begin to pour this energy into that form, filling up the atoms and the molecules and other aspects of that physical expression, filling it up completely, recharging and rejuvenating its vitality and its energies. (Pause)

And when you sense it is filled, leave the pond, be drawn back to your solar system towards the third planet from the Sun on which you have this physical expression sitting in that room, (Pause) and return through the fissures of the skull (Pause) into the physical form, (Pause) rejoicing in its replenished energies. (Pause)

And on the count of three you will open your eyes, become aware of your body breathing so nicely. One. Take a deep breath. Become aware of the action of your rib cage drawing in the air and expelling. Two. Wiggle your fingers and your toes and your hands and feet. Take another faster breath, returning fully to your physical form. And three. You can open your eyes now. Be fully conscious in the room you are in, breathing normally, aware and awake.

And with that we will give you another cosmic break.

(Break begins at 8:59.)

Everyone seemed to enjoy the meditation very much.

Paul asked Mark about the previous session that Kris referred to in which he talked about the several cycles that he has experienced. Mark explained that it is a very crude analogy, but a cycle could be compared to a Big Bang. The Universe expands then contracts and implodes again. This would be one cycle.

Paul H was questioning if there is a memory of every experience through these cycles. Mark answered that Kris has said that nothing is ever forgotten, nothing ever dies, and that essence remembers everything! Every single molecule that has ever entered your being is remembered. Every single breath that you have taken is remembered.

Further discussion ensued concerning the ‘action of forgetting’ and how this might occur at essence level.

There were comments pertaining to the fact that even at essence level there is still not knowledge of everything because consciousness is constantly growing and expanding and changing.

There was appreciation expressed that through the energy exchange, consciousness is translated and speaks directly to us, unlike what one hears in church. Ester then commented that in the setting of the church, it is really the same thing, the translation of consciousness within that particular context. People receive the information that they need.

Mark made comments to the fact that even among people who have no knowledge of channeled material or these ghosts you can see the shift occurring within THEIR lives. And it was also pointed out that some people are apparently NOT showing signs of shifting, i.e. widening their awareness.

Mark reminded people that at this point in the Shift we are seeding the next generation with the information we are making available.

Norm was asked if they had been to the ‘ghost house’ and he said not yet but in about two weeks and said he would tell everyone about it. They did go to one ghost house, which 100 years ago was a beer hall and a brothel during the prohibition. One woman that was in the tour group could see the ghost and it went over and talked to her and had quite a conversation. No one else perceived the ghost. This woman has had many such experiences. Reta related the ghost’s story of her death.

Norm remarked that it seems to be quite common that sometimes people in Regions 2 and 3 refuse to move on. Mark countered that they always do after a certain amount of time and that there are essences ‘trained’ to assist people in their transition.

Reta said that her understanding is that there are often people who are not able to actually come into physical manifestation because of the difficulties associated with it and so it makes sense to her that moving on might also be difficult.

(Session resumes at 9:16.)

KRIS: There are individuals who only wish to experience the preliminary processes of creating a physical form such as a fetus or even engaging in participating within the action of creating the physical fetus. There are others who wish no participation other than learning about the birth process in the physical realm, at least the way you have deemed it necessary to give birth, which is tied into your belief paradigms.

There are other individuals who only wish to experience the formative years of the child development such as learning to identify and focus consciousness and concentration into the regimen necessary to identify the physical environment, whilst there are others who feel that it is in their best interests to pursue the whole gambit of the human experience from conception through birth all the way through to old age and death in the manner stipulated by the laws of physics of your physical reality.

And you agree to abide by these laws of physics, which can be very different from the laws of physics that your physicists understand that have to do with certain governing rules pertinent to a consensus reality, an agreed-upon reality. This is where the concept of conscious co-creation comes into being. And within that context the individual is given much leeway up to a point. No one individual, for instance, may sprout seven heads on their seventh birthday, at least not in your dimension. It would confuse the scientists that much more and render them inoperable. (Chuckling)

So you choose then to go along with the consensus and just as there are individuals who only wish to experience the preliminary stages of the DNA and the genetic materials involved in creating the fetus, there are those like yourselves who wish to pursue the entire gambit of the experience, a big gamble in a way because you deliberately chose then to activate certain remembrances along the way, though some choose not to.

In your cases you have chosen then to remember some of your potentials and again these rules, these transformations, this information may be completely different in a hundred years from now or five hundred years from now while still maintaining the basics having to do with value creation as a constant throughout all experiences within the context of your version of time-space.

This is why you have also invented many systems, religions, sciences, cultures, civilizations to allow yourselves, through various means, the expression of transforming energy, in effect the very principles of reality creation in action. And again it begins in that magical place, the great within, that great subjective area.

Now we would ask if there are any questions for the remainder of the discussion.

RETA: This is sort of a long question here. What do you think in percentages, the essences that start through the process that choose only to think about it or to disperse after childhood or whatever….What do you think? Is it a third of the people make it or half of the people make it? What would you think?

KRIS: There are many things to consider in such a scenario. It is not necessarily that the individualities do not feel up to snuff, to the challenge, but rather they wish to understand some of the basic mechanics involved in the physics of the transformation of energy into the preliminary stages of physical form.

However, your question is very interesting. Keep in mind that in many cultures one can engage an abortion as a subjective agreement with that particular entity or individual. In other cultures you might have a high infant mortality rate as in many Third World countries either through famine, malnutrition, natural disasters or even wars and genocide. You may have religious ethnic purgings, which would also see to that.

So there are many variances on this topic. But in our perception at least one third of individuals choose to vacate the physical expression from the early stages of the fetus right up to early childhood.

Take into consideration the recent events around the Christmas period of 2004 where in the affected areas in Southeast Asia with the tsunami an entire generation of children perished. Does that make some sense to you?

RETA: Yes.

JENE: Kris, this is Jene.

KRIS: Indeed.

JENE: Mildew. (Everyone chuckles) In 1964 there was a large movement of essence at that time NOT to manifest into physical reality. They, in our reality as we know it, were called stillborn children, my son being one of them. He and I had close contact in communication at that time. I was aware that he would not develop into physical form in this time frame within a certain portion of my consciousness… Question: that particular time frame held a tremendous amount of children or fetuses that chose to only experience up to the birth and then disengage. Was that significant in a time frame for a particular generation?

KRIS: Indeed. Also taking things into consideration and in context, many such or similar disengagements are not done merely for these periods. But there may have been many individuals deciding not to engage in the particular line of development that would have occurred from that time period, such as refusing instead to participate any further in what would have become the following of the Vietnam war and all of the other events of history as you know it from that time, choosing instead other realities that did not engage in those actions or coming into your reality at a time that is more suitable for their particular wishes overall. So you have always many factors at play, many nuances and shades of gray coloring the whole tapestry of human history in one form or another.

Now, many of the parents of those individuals who choose to disengage had to do a tremendous amount of soul searching, question their faith, meaning specifically their religious doctrines, and many chose to disenfranchise themselves from their dogmas and religions of childhood, instead embracing other methods of recognizing their union and unity with the Universe through much freer means. Does that make sense to you?

JENE: Yes. Thank you.

KRIS: That would go in line with some of your own private subjective experiences. Correct?

JENE: Right. Thank you.

KRIS: So you and your child engaged an action that was of benefit to both of you and you are both blessed for it.

JENE: Very much.

KRIS: Are there other questions?

MARK: I’ve heard you talk on this before, what about essences that are earthbound after death? These ghosts, per se?

KRIS: These are not essences. Did everyone hear the question?

ALL: Yes.

KRIS: THESE ARE NOT ESSENCES. These are literal energetic imprints of the individual. You call them ghosts. We call them refractory echoes. They only know and engage in specific actions as in a loop very much like an individual clinically identified as schizophrenic with one personality only able to perform a certain range of actions that has to be replaced. Do you understand?

(Pause)

MARK: I do.

KRIS: Thus these ghosts are a repository of certain energy patterns of the individual personality. These ghosts do not represent the whole of the personality. But there is an entire cult and dogma built up around them. And thus many individuals must exercise their talents in order to help those because they are in themselves in a contract with that particular psychological personogram that is of use to them.

But there are no such personograms that are the original individuals. Do you understand that as well?

(Long Pause)

MARK: I do.

KRIS: Does that make sense to you in the lands of the sunshine and rain?

CASTAIC AND OREGON: (Everyone cracks up.) Yes.

JO: I have a follow-up question, Kris. This is Rosalie. What about animals? And specifically I had an experience with a pet cat.

KRIS: Now it is common in mediumship circles to say that your kitty cat or your puppy is waiting for you on the other side of the Light. That is also a distortion of the information. The companion animal or even its apparent ghostly residue is pertinent with the individual consciousness tied into them. You may also get much like on the radar screen an echo effect, a recall of past energy impressions, the original source long gone but its echo still bouncing around, traces of its energies still participating in a limited style within the boundaries of certain dimensions. Does that make some sense to you?

JO: Yes, thank you.

KRIS: Are there other questions ghostly or otherwise? (Laughter)

PAUL H: Kris, I have a question. It’s Janaki. On June 21st in a private session you cited my belonging to as primary Milumet, secondary Gramada, tertiary a mixture of Sumafi and Sumari. Fast forward a couple months to November 29th and at that time you offered that my belonging to primary was Zuli, secondary Gramada, and tertiary Sumafi. I’m wondering what the difference is and in your perception right now is my belonging to still the same as those three or has it also shifted and why?

KRIS: In our perception they are still the same. As to why, the answer may be longer than you can ask questions. (Laughter)

PAUL H: I know. I had to wait until the very end.

KRIS: Now. Consciousness is simultaneously a completed and unfinished product. It cannot be completed in your linear terms because it is ever growing, ever expanding, ever transforming itself much like a kaleidoscope. Thus there are both exchanges and actions, Rasas and Rajas of consciousness as a constant state of energies. And within those Rasas and Rajas there are permanent offshoots, a constant of growth, an expression of that growth.

Ourselves, giving you these two apparently different belonging to’s is also to illustrate to you that there are no static states. Thus you as consciousness over and above you as ego are always in stages of growth for whatever period of time is necessary, whether you align with or belong to appears to shift, you do not necessarily leave any of those states but you incorporate others.

But to have explained that you still belong to but now you also belong to would have been unduly confusing. Do you follow?

PAUL H: Yes.

KRIS: So you add to your most fundamental resources and you may at another future time add more, depending on your needs as in this time you are also adding some Tumold energy.

PAUL H: That would be to my primary belonging to?

KRIS: Indeed. But these are small fluctuations. They are overall not needed in terms of worrying about, because overall as essence you are able to tap into these regions of energy that are necessary for the proper healthy maintenance of all of the expressions that you entertain. In part that is why we gave this meditation this evening. When you are in need of a booster shot for energy take the few minutes necessary to literally dive into these ponds and reservoirs of energy, absorb it like a sponge would soak up water, and direct it to your physical form. Does that make some sense to you?

PAUL H: Yes, and just one follow-up then. This Milumet characteristic that you identified as primary in June was not replaced by this Zuli primary characteristic in November. Somehow there’s an additive process, for lack of a better description?

KRIS: Indeed.

PAUL H: Okay. Thank you.

NORM: Would that be what Elias refers to as the process of mergence?

KRIS: To a certain degree but we believe there may be some differences as well, adding to often also leaving behind only in a manner of speaking. But you all contain within you each and every trait of all of the Families of Intent much like you still contain within your remembrance the activities, the events, the circumstances of your childhood and your youth, however sordid that may be. (Laughter) But you do not call upon them when it is not necessary. Do you follow?

NORM: Yes.

KRIS: Indeed then. What is the time?

MARK: 9:42.

KRIS: Then we will leave you all to your joyous magical intentions and….

JENE: We have one more question.

KRIS: Indeed. Please feel free.

SARA: Kris, this is Sara or Chiroco, we met a few months ago.

KRIS: Indeed.

SARA: I was wondering if you might be able to tell me about my family names.

KRIS: (Pause) Primary is Tumold, secondary Milumet, tertiary Vold. Aligning with primary Sumari, Milumet and Milumet. You also have a great affinity for all small feline creatures. Is that correct?

(Pause)

MARK: Is that true?

SARA: Yeah, yeah that’s true.

KRIS: You have a natural empathic ability that can be developed into what is commonly called an Animal Communicator. And if you explore the subject matter you will find that with training and practice you can help many humans and their companion animals. So that is something you may wish to look into when you feel you are ready to explore that subject matter.

SARA: Thank you.

KRIS: We thank you for the opportunity to in words alone participate in your Chiroco being. (Laughter)

With that we will send you all into the winds of your magical wondrous selves.

ALL: Thank you Kris.

(Session ends at 9:45.)

Serge mentioned that he had the sense that Kris delved into some rather deep information toward the end of the session. Paul H told him that he had asked Kris about his family belonging to changing and that he had further questions about that issue.

Reta was pleased with Kris’ discussion about the number of individuals that do not choose to manifest fully in physical reality.

Paul H mentioned the concept that Seth had talked about in the Early Sessions concerning ‘duel hybrid constructions’ as it relates to ghosts, i.e. primary and secondary constructions. Seth presents the psyche as outer ego, subconscious inner ego and so on.

(Kris jumps back in at 9:48.)

KRIS: Now did you think that we could stay away form your lovely selves? (Everyone cracks up.)

JENE: We love having you Kris.

KRIS: Now here is another perception on this ghostly topic. You consider yourselves to be solid, full-fledged physical constructions, and yet to someone else you could be very ghostly indeed, projections from another personality, your essence. So though you like to stay and to think within the dimensions of “I am a real person and what I see with my eyes is a ghost” could be thought the same about YOU. (Laughter) And indeed you are as dead as any ghost and you are as alive as any other individuals. And the truth is you could very well be in the very middle of such concepts.

When you daydream you think that in this country in the dead of winter it would be so much nicer to be lying on the warm tropical beach with an emerald sea lapping at the shores of a sandy white beach and palm trees gently swaying to and fro in the breeze, the smell of coconut milk (laughter) in your nostrils. Where do you think your imagined projection is? Other individuals may very well see that projection in that very scenario. You think it is nothing but a daydream.

When you dream at night in your deep sleep that you are traveling on the road, climbing hills and valleys, walking in strange cities, you think it is a strange dream without ever considering for a moment you may have projected your thoughts, your energy into a form that was perceived by another environment, and you were seen, you were noticed. Other people may have remembered a dream where they saw a stranger walking up the road that could be identified as you.

So do not think for a moment that your so-called solid form is solid for you might be as ghostly as any ghost ever was and that, dear friends, is our thought on this parting moment to your lovely selves. (Laughter)

ALL: Thank you Kris. Thank you.

(Sessions ends at 9:53.)

Resistance is Futile: You Will Be Loved!

February 21, 2005

Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois
Transcribed by Marcy Singer (Arindel)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on February 21, 2005
© Copyright 2005 Avion Rising Inc.

Roll call: Serge (Joseph), Mark (Philip), Lida (Miriam), Alex (Darrolid), John (Sohars) and Myrna (Sharaleene)

(Session begins at 7:55 pm.)

KRIS: Indeed the caption “Resistance is Futile: You Will be Loved” could easily fit. And this is important because this is the prime misunderstanding in your society that somehow or other love is not to be trusted and therefore must be feared to one degree or another. And even those individuals who make it their mission in life to run through the country claiming to love everything and everyone but not themselves have misunderstood.

As we suggested, love is not something that you acquire like so much merchandise off the supermarket shelves. It is not something you bargain for. It is something that is innate to human nature. And we know that this statement may be considered outrageous because of the deeply ingrained social conditions that man’s true innate nature is to kill, destroy, maim, rape, pillage. But that is the lie and the result of fear of love and loving and being loved, in other words the fear of being assimilated by your own nature.

Thus it is important to actually get an understanding of the innate goodness and love that resides within the human heart. And indeed when you see phenomenon like the factory workers or the chicken farms or any other mistreatment of animals or infants or human beings, partners abusing each other, nations assaulting each other, family members killing each other, one country waging war and wholesale slaughter against your neighbor, you look at these things and you nod your head in agreement, ‘yes, here is a clear and irrefutable evidence that Man, Humankind, is nothing but cruelty in its collective heart.’

And then there is further agreement that some divine forces should come and clean up the family tree and trim it of all homosapiens. And such thoughts and perceptions are taken as fact because there is apparent evidence. And many if not most people rarely take the time to investigate why these things are happening. Is it merely beliefs in duplicity? Or is it beliefs in good and evil? Or is it political rambling and gain by greed?

All of these appear to be factors indeed, but the greatest misunderstanding, indeed the greatest sin of all is that you have been given a lie, and that lie is that the human heart is filled with shame and iniquity and is therefore flawed. And of course then out of this quagmire the human individual can do nothing else but destroy the Earth and each other.

And yet there is indeed a solution, a SIMPLE solution to such lies that those in positions of knowing swallow their damn pride and reveal the truth that the human heart, the human individual is born into the world already filled with loving capacities that merely need to be nurtured as opposed to the deceitful belief that the human individual comes into the world tainted, soiled, and must be restrained to keep the evil within his or her heart locked up lest it destroy the world.

And everywhere you look you can see the evidence reflected back to you according to what you accept to believe about your human nature, and that is the key. You do not see war, destruction, wholesale slaughter because it is man’s innate nature. You see it because this is what you believe.

Now, accept to RELEASE such beliefs and replace them with the conviction that your fragile human nature knows only of a boundless, fearless and heroic loving state of grace and love and IMAGINE what you will then see reflected as evidence of your convictions.

Now it is one thing to imagine this and it is one thing to hear this from our inimitable, controversial lips, but to understand the delicious implications can indeed turn your world around. And one of the second most lies attributed to the nature of human individuals is that your very creature hood, your very sexual nature must also be controlled because it is dangerous and it cannot not lead you to redeem your tainted or soiled selves or souls and must therefore be diametrically opposed to your spiritual quest for salvation, which is another bad bill of goods being pushed your way. They are all interwoven.

And this the greatest disservice to your race is the lie disguised as spiritual truth that your loving nature and your sexual nature are incompatible. They are instead quite compatible and a loving expression of each other. And though there are certain philosophies that teach that the way to redeem yourselves is to literally stamp out your desiring nature and your sexual nature. Though there are such philosophies, we do not know if you have ever heard of them, but there are.

Such philosophies eventually end up causing far more psychological damage to the adept or disciple because you are attempting, such philosophies are attempting to convince you that your own innate nature is filled with dangers, is filled with evils, and may very well lead you to damnation. It literally creates a form of psychic schizophrenia.

Before such philosophies were enforced and before your ancestors were enjoined, often by force to subscribe to such convictions, there were perceptions, there were philosophical schools and systems from very ancient age and times where humankind was not ashamed of its creature hood, of its sexuality, nor of its spirituality, and there was no need to separate the two.

Now it is often assumed that if that were the case then obviously people must have been fornicating at every street corner. How could legitimate business be carried on with everyone fornicating everywhere? (Laughter) But that only shows a disparaging paradigm in the thinker’s own belief structures and nothing more. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Once a society understands the proper principles of action by a loving sexual spirituality or a loving spiritual sexuality, then you have a society that is no longer in need to create schizophrenic paradigms at the collective level. You do not need Victorianism or any other related attitudes such as you often have in many governments around the world where it is permissible to kill, maim, steal, rob, but do not dare have a sexual indiscretion of any kind because that is unacceptable because it is acceptable to everything else.

So when you have a society that seeks to instill a stronger moral code, then you know that society is in deeper trouble than assumed, when factions of such societies insist that moral standings must prevail. In other words, the appearances must be uppermost and the animal nature of your being must be suppressed, then you are in deep trouble. When the so called religious rights of any sect and cult, whether it is a backyard cult or a global cult, whether it is disguised in the form of Christianity, Judaism or any other cult, Muslim, Jaïn or anything else, then you have distortions about your human nature that seek to be prevalent, and your true nature is to be buried.

You do not have to search far and wide for the reasons why your societies can be in the mess that they are and this is part of the truth wave in the shift of consciousness, the collective realization that there is not a damned thing wrong with your souls or spirits, there is something wrong with those who try to sell you that lie. And ultimately they can only sell you what you want to be sold. So this created a loop, does it not?

But the more that you awaken to the love and the light and the sexual expressions within your being, the more aware, awake and realized you become. That is the meaning of enlightenment. It has nothing to do with sitting on the top of a mountain contemplating the lint in your naval. (Laughter) That is not enlightenment. Those who may claim that they are enlightened because they have eschewed [shunned] their human nature have not embraced their human nature. They cannot embrace your human nature and do not know the wherewithal of what they speaketh.

When love becomes the primal force, and we are not talking of the love that again certain cults and sects would like to promote such as the apparent love of a deity that allowed its own child to be murdered as warranted in any respect, we are speaking about an actual love that can only come from an understanding of your own human nature, loving that human nature and being able to see that same loving nature within another because the other again is you.

How can anyone stand at the pulpit and claim to LOVE ALL except them [pointing in different directions] and except them and not them? That is another distortion. You cannot claim in the same breath to love the Divine or all that is divine and hate physical expressions of the Divine. Does that not make sense?

(Yes)

And how can you love others, seeing them through the eyes of the Divine? By accepting that your own nature through and through with all if the apparent flaws and even the wrinkles beside the eyes, the beautiful and loving expression of All That Is and out of the core of your being there can be an outpouring of this acceptance, accepting your own creature hood, your own sexual and spiritual nature in order to be able to accept it in the other. If you cannot accept it within you, how can you possibly accept it in the other and demand that the other accept it in you?

And once there is an acceptance and recognition and an awakening and an enlightenment upon such a sweaty topic, then you change, your neighborhood changes, your community changes, your culture changes. Until eventually your whole world itself is transformed. This kind of recognition and acceptance can actually take the war out of humankind. And there were many ancient practices where this was done to purge the individual, the soldier, the warrior.

In such a society matriarchal systems were very much in place and understood for the values it brought. There was an understanding that the male cannot rule without the healing of the female. Once that aspect of the human psyche was restrained and collectively stripped of its healing and nurturing abilities and relegated to the kitchen and the baby factories then Mankind lost its perspective and became overly laden with testosterone.

There is now resurgence and a return to such views. And gradually you will keep seeing changes at that level, but this will take time. It is said that by the third quarter of this century many things will be accomplished by the return of the Christ entity, and indeed this entity, she has many things to do. (Laughter)

Now though there is no specific gender characterization at essence level, and though many people still assume the return of the Christ and the Christ entity itself unquestionably must be male, we might suggest you think again. The entity is nurturing and in your terms has definite feminine characteristics because there is indeed a great need for balance and harmony at that level.

And that is why it is important for everyone that hears this and everyone that will read this for years to come, it is important that you recognize that it is only by healing your human nature as we have described in this rather heady discussion, and that as the years and decades go by you may indeed see a return to ancient practices that incorporate long forgotten traditions of spiritual and sexual practices. And these traditions have never died but have been submerged deep within the human psyche. But they are resurfacing when there is the time and the need.

So do not think that somehow or other you cannot be spiritual and sexual at the same time. When properly perceived, your sexual or spiritual moods can indeed be experienced as two facets of the very same coin. Your perspective makes the difference. You can continue to see that anything about your sexuality somehow or other goes against spirituality, but that is your perception. It is not a fact. Or you can see that indeed the loving flow one to the other and that quite like the greatest spiritual expression you can engage in is when you are at your most sexual and vice versa. So it is a matter of perception and perspective and what you enjoin yourself to perceive at that moment.

And when there are more and more individuals that recognize this return to ancient long forgotten traditions and practices you may even recognize that for all intents and purposes the two were never separate subjects but simply different facets of one energy, the expression of essence that you and you and each of you are. And to pretend that it is spiritual to not venture into topics of sexuality is only giving you part of the picture.

But once you step into the picture and the experience in 3-dimensional flesh and blood and see that your existence is spiritually sexual and sexually spiritual at the same time, then indeed the very cells and molecules and atoms and quantum particles that compose your subjective and objective selves can rejoice because they no longer have to be restricted by you.

And with that we will get off our soapbox and let you enjoy a small break.

(Break begins at 8:35.)

JOHN: I don’t know whether to sneak downstairs for a smoke or stay here and talk about sex.

MARK: It’s ALWAYS sex first then a cigarette! (Laughter)

ALEX: Very funny. That was good.

(Miscellaneous discussions about sex and what Kris had spoken about.)

MARK: It is also interesting that he talked about the Christ entity coming back and being feminine, but he has also talked about the Christ character being fictional mythos even though the energies behind the mythos were there.

ALEX: I think that he is telling us that we are collectively bringing it back according to the belief system that we are at and I was thinking when he mentioned that, are we ready to accept a Christ figure as a female?

JOHN: Actually, did he really say that it would be female or did he just say that if you think it will be male, you will have to think again? What I am saying is that it just a little looser than…(Kris interrupts)

(Kris jumps back in at 8:37.)

KRIS: Now when you or any of you speak about the Christ entity and savior you imagine a physical image. However, the energy behind it is no such thing. For instance, if you wanted to meet the real Mona Lisa and you go to the Louvre with a bottle of wine and some French breadsticks and sit at the picture hoping that this will fulfill the desire, you are mistaken. This is the image reproduced by the artist of the original, but it is nothing like the original.

You are nothing like the original source of your energies. But you identify with the parameters and the laws that govern physical expression and physical reality. But what people see in this room, what your parents have seen since your birth, what your relatives have dealt with and the exchanges you have had with thousands of people since your appearance in the physical world is not the truth, rather these are the interactions that occur on stage.

You do not for instance really believe that the guy playing Romeo really goes around talking like that or wears tights. Do you understand? So this is what he is portraying. This is what he is conveying to the audience.

Similarly you or anyone in this room are playing a character and you play it very well, but you are not that character. You do not expect anyone on television in any performance or drama to actually act like that in real life.

Now there is a vast difference between yourself as others know you and YOU. You try to convey, to project, but even that projection is slightly altered by how others project upon you and you cannot deny this, you cannot say, ‘the individual in front of me will not project through me. I will not be a reflection for his or her perceptions.’ It is not possible. That is the nature of the laws of physics in this reality.

And the other cannot look at you and say, ‘I will not allow her perceptions to project through me. I will be who I am.’ You have instead a middle ground where both of you exchange perceptions to one degree or another. You are partially yourself, they are partially themselves, and together you come to a consensus about each other’s perceptions and projections, even if it is all done instantaneously and unconsciously, telepathically. Do you follow?

ALEX: I do. Then is it safe to say that I can’t really held responsible for all of my actions then?

KRIS: On the contrary, that would be a great scapegoat. You are responsible for all of your actions for they are the result of your personal convictions.

ALEX: Taking into consideration the other person’s perception or perspective.

KRIS: The other’s perceptions do not force you to do anything. Allow and you cannot not allow. You are yourself to the best of your abilities. The other is herself or himself to the best of their abilities. And together you have a happy middle ground, a consensus reality. Does that make some sense to you?

ALEX: Some. Not all.

KRIS: Indeed. When you look in the pond and you see the tree by the edge of the pond reflected in the pond’s surface through the refractions of light you see what appears to be the upside down version of the tree, but it is not the tree. It is a reflection of that tree. Now if you try to climb that tree you will get wet as opposed to climbing the other tree. (Laughter)

The water moves. There are waves. Light is refracted off its surface and it is altered when it enters the striations of water currents and its molecular structure. So it may appear slightly skewed. But it still retains the overall appearance of the tree, but it is not the tree. It would not be a good idea to chop that tree down either. You will again get wet.

Now if you wish to know the tree, would it be better to study the reflection or to actually look at the tree? Touch the tree? Embrace the tree? Climb the tree? Feel its leaves? Feel its bark? Maybe even taste the leaves, taste the sap. That will give you a better idea of the tree and its nature. But still the tree itself is a projection of its own energy and it is very different. Do you follow so far?

ALEX: I do.

KRIS: Now you have your perceptions of what a tree is. The tree has its own perceptions of what it is. Its perceptions of itself might be very different from what you perceive, but you both have perceptions that you exchange. So the tree senses what you project. You sense what the tree projects, and your physical senses and your inner senses interpret those images in a specific manner. And your individuality still remains intact and authentic.

But to each other’s eyes your perceptions about your true nature is interpreted through your senses. When you meet another individual you undergo the same process. And what you feel, what you sense will be both your own and how they interpret that is their own. That is how you exchange perceptions. Your individuality and authenticity is never marginalized or overridden. Neither is theirs. But the interpretations at the subjective levels are where the game is at.

So it is a matter of looking perhaps beyond the physical perceptions at what you feel, sense, perceive, interpret, what you discern. And you may think that you have the interpretation down pat, and so would they. But in reality they are the interpretations and not the actual thing. You may think the Mona Lisa actually looks like that, but she may look quite different. In your physical reality she would be very different looking indeed today. (Laughter)

So you are playing with perceptions.

ALEX: Is that ego?

KRIS: The ego structure, though it is interpretation through the auspices of the senses. You cannot do anything but, neither can you kill or destroy the ego to try to attempt to get a better perception. That would be no different than a marathon runner thinking that if he or she removes their arms and legs they might present less drag in the wind. They will get nowhere faster, but they will not get anywhere. Do you understand?

(Yes)

So it is a matter of playing at perceptions.

ALEX: If you are with somebody that you just don’t see eye-to-eye with, that you have completely different perceptions or perspectives. How do you ….it’s hard to understand how that person is a reflection of you or that person is you because let’s say their belief system is so opposite to you. How do you reconcile that?

KRIS: You do not have to make reconciliation on the spot, and it may not dawn on you for some time. To make such attempts would actually aggravate the situation.

Now, if this is the case, accept it for what it is at this time. You agree to disagree. When you are in a better place and recognize where the signals, that is the emotions and the feelings come from, then through introspection you might recognize that they were mirroring back to you certain aspects, incongruencies within your own belief paradigms, whether about yourself, other individuals, or wherever the situation has incongruencies.

Thus various aspects of your personality are always flowing in and out through the window of your perception. You are all made up of countless aspects. Be aware. This is what Elias says all the time. Notice! If you notice you will see that you are not the solid-state personality you think you are but that instead you are literally a kaleidoscope of aspects that flow in and out of this window of perceptions all the time.

ALEX: What if you notice that you’ve changed but the people around you haven’t? Is that possible? You evolve or whatever, change your perspective and your perceptions and other people around you haven’t.

KRIS: Then it is quite likely that you have noticed that certain aspects of yourself or rather you have changed their juxtaposition. You have brought into your window of perception other aspects that may indeed be able to contain and entertain a wider perspective. There may also be others that have yet to accommodate these changes within yourself, and those in your environment that you perceive as not having changed much may be reflecting your other aspects that still need to pursue their own awakening. Does that make some sense?

ALEX: Actually it does. Is that part of the ego structure too?

KRIS: This is one of the things that the ego structure learns.

ALEX: Okay. That makes sense.

KRIS: Indeed because the other may also have changed. You may not see it yet. So when you have rose-colored glasses, you do not see the blue spectrum only the rose spectrum. If you want to see other spectrums you need to change glasses or the window of perception.

Now we will return you to your lovely break.

Break resumes at 8:53.

MYRNA: [To Mark] You know when you said to me just as I was leaving last time, the changes that you had experienced in me from when I first came to where I am now. I recognized this about it later that it’s all around now understanding that everything in my environment is an aspect of me. And this was hugely liberating. So what I need to do is to see it as that and work with it as that versus getting all out of sorts because somebody’s done something. You know? It’s huge.

ALEX: It can also be, I find it’s also frustrating though because I DO get out of sorts, because somebody’s done something and I say, ‘well, wait a second that’s me getting me out of sorts.’ And that’s what that whole [unintelligible]..I was starting love myself, now I hate myself. It’s like, okay that’s an aspect of me, that’s an aspect of me, and I don’t like it. How did I bring that part of me out?

LIDA: Did he say that actually every person is a side of you?

ALEX: Of you.

MYRNA: So you see something that is difficult. Right? And it’s like [unintelligible]

What John has worked with me on around this is rather than wrestle with that aspect, embrace it. Okay, what is it? What is that aspect? Alright, you’re a real bitch or you are really arrogant or you’ve got a real killer aspect. Yes? Thank you. At some point that energy probably was important and I have a choice at any point. I have a choice as to what aspect I choose to listen.

ALEX: Is there ever a time though when you are dealing with somebody, like let’s say a husband and you’re not getting along with your husband and you’re thinking about a divorce and your husband is an aspect of you, is it okay to say at some point, ‘you know what? I can’t make this work’? Like at what point do you say that?

MARK: Any time that you have to make the call, you have to draw that conclusion that there are times that you will accept it to a certain degree, other times that you will bitch about it and you get to the point where YOU want to make the call and say, ‘okay. This is the breaking point.’

MYRNA: No longer do I want that aspect.

SERGE: It’s like with me with jobs. I have three parts to a job. I like my job or even love my job. I even like to bitch about the job. And then when I move into the third phase, ‘oh, I don’t even like to bitch about it anymore. Move on.’

MARK: That’s very enlightening for me because I do that all the time because I do love my job and I do love to bitch about my job and sometimes it motivates me. When I really have a lot of work or something major to do, I will make myself angry. It causes me to focus on what I want to do and I get it done. I get angry. It gives me the energy I need and I do the job. But I love my job. You’re right. It’s when you don’t even want to give it….when I get quiet, that’s when people have to worry. That’s when I’m really upset, I’m really bothered, and then I can’t even bother.

ALEX: So when you leave the job or divorce the husband you’re letting go of the aspect of yourself that…..I guess I’m thinking that you always have to work it out., but if you decide to let go of the husband or the job….

SERGE: You’ve got to be practical too. I mean, how many battered wives are there out there that think that someday they’ll be able to change their husband or their mate?

MARK: Or themselves. Those are the ones who actually truly believe that they are at fault. Unfortunately with battered women they actually say that many of them believe that THEY are at fault. You know and there is acceptance at that level. [They believe] That they deserve what they got because the sinful self, blah, blah, blah.

ALEX: It’s okay to say no, to let go of that aspect of yourself.

MARK: There’s no right or wrong here.

[ People talking on top of each other]

SERGE: There’s a very strange thing occurred in late ’88 early ’89 after Shirley MacLean’s movie called “Out On A Limb”, for some reason I got at least a dozen clients to talk to Kris. They were all women. None of them knew each other. They all had a very similar experience. Their husbands were either emotionally, psychologically, sexually or physically abusive towards them or sometimes all of it. But they all knew the same thing. They all had the same perception about their husband. They were all convinced that somehow or other their husbands were bisexual in nature and couldn’t deal with it. So they, the husband couldn’t accept his bisexuality.

MYRNA: But that’s all aspects of them too.

SERGE: And they all were unable to reconcile that because of social, family whatever. So they took it out on the wives. What was more interesting I found is that my father and my stepfather were also like that. They were both abusive at all levels, not only to our mother but to ourselves as kids. What I thought very interesting later on because I didn’t get everything at that time, but later on I was working as incumbent receptionist for Visiting Homemakers’ Association of Ottawa / Carlton and I was the major receptionist taking all the calls.

Now we had access to literal warehouses of information everywhere, government, anything else. And I had been talking to somebody in one of these warehouses, clearinghouse of information for the government, stuff like that, about this very subject. I was to get another perspective on that, so I was just talking about that, and as far as this woman was concerned there was no such thing. Men beat up women. End of story. There was no reason to look behind the scenes as to what was causing them to beat up their wives or their girlfriends or whatever. You know? Men were animals. End of story. And I know that’s not the fact. And I know that the trauma that my dad and step dad went through constantly about this. And also the stories of these 12 women, which I thought was phenomenal that they were all having the same issue and especially this was a bedroom community. It was Orleans. It was like Scarborough to Toronto to Ottawa. So it’s a small community, but it’s very picket-fence kind of attitude, stuff like that. So there’s a lot of stuff going on underneath.

MYRNA: [Unintelligible]

SERGE: Yeah

MYRNA: On a literal level.

SERGE: And to channeling.

MYRNA: Not a surprise. What’s interesting is to take a look at that, from what I know now working with John and with Kris, to have those women understand the victim and the perpetrator in themself. Right? Many of them choose only to be the victim, only to act out of the victim aspect. Not the perpetrator themself.

SERGE: What was interesting with these women was that they had enough insight to understand there was a reason why their husbands were like that. They were hoping to be able to kind of help them, but the majority of them had concluded that the only way they can actually help their husbands is to remove themself from the situation. So they had recognized the enabler and decided to cut it off and to remove themselves completely thus giving their husbands the best chance of healing themselves. Whatever they did with that was their husband’s problem.

MYRNA: It’s interesting that they cut off the enabler in themselves too. Right?

SERGE: Yes. And ultimately I thought, ‘oh my god I’m going to be in a lawsuit here in a divorce suit.’

MARK: It goes right back to the quote that Kris said earlier. They can only tell you what you want to be told. And nobody, mo matter who you’re talking about, anybody, they can only tell you what you want to be told.

SERGE: This is a very, very difficult issue, especially with battered women’s syndrome and all sorts of stuff like that, rape victims. Most of them turn right off no matter what this conscious creation stuff does, the majority of them, there’s an area where it’s blacklisted. You can’t go there with that. And it’s very, very hard and it’s often the biggest trouble.

ALEX: You’re talking about an area in your mind or your coping mechanism?

SERGE: Whatever the belief structures are. Not all of them but many women, or even men for that matter have a hard time taking that other step into this conscious creation stuff because it would have to change their whole dominant belief.

MYRNA: It changes everything.

SERGE: It’s very powerful because then you have to kind of, well, who you going to fault? There’s no one else to blame here and NOT EVEN YOU. You’re not even to blame. We have to change the situation. So that’s actually very powerful stuff.

ALEX: But there is a sense of walking on nothing after that if I can’t even blame myself, who is there to blame? That’s….

SERGE: That’s also following the victim side of the mentality because if there’s no one to blame, not even myself, what do we do with the fault? Well, we empower ourselves. That is the frightening part. I thought all my life I’m powerless. I had to do this I had to do that I had to follow those rules and everything else. And all of a sudden you’re saying that I have the power to make my own decisions, whether it’s about health or whatever.

ALEX: I don’t want to be a victim anymore.

SERGE: Right.

MYRNA: We have the power to mold energy.

SERGE: What Kris says is that what we do best as a human being is transform energy.

ALEX: That’s what the physical is, energy and consciousness makes matter, basically.

MARK: Creates matter.

ALEX: Creates matter, yes. How we choose to create it. That’s what we are.

MARK: Transforming energy from one state to another.

Session resumes at 9:06.

KRIS: Such a small discussion (Laughter) gives you inkling as to the true nature of your humanity, of your humanness, of this apparent frail frame that may be hurt and destroyed at any moment. When you realize that you actually form your own reality, that it is not handed to you but that in a sense you mold it and form it on the fly, then you get a sense of that power that has its root in your divinity, your essence. That also eliminates the need to look for an outside external objective form of divinity. You ARE that divine expression from the inside out. So when you go to church or synagogue or mosque you go to one more of your pretty residences but we do not suggest to get a cut of the plate.

ALEX: That’s very powerful.

KRIS: Indeed. It can shake the foundation of your civilization, but it is up to you how much shaking you want to do.

MYRNA: I have a question Kris.

KRIS: Indeed.

MYRNA: I have shaken a lot and I feel very discouraged at this stage. I have shaken a lot. I have a desire to continue to shake and I would love some something from you. I don’t know what I want. What do I want? I have chosen the corporate sphere to try and shake up the environment so that the individual and love can come in, and I feel very often beaten up by it. And I know that I’m beating me up. (Laughter) Okay I got that.

KRIS: We did not have to speak.

MARK: Indeed. (More laughter)

MYRNA: However, I need some words of encouragement to keep going.

KRIS: When you feel discouraged, when you feel disenchantment you are telling yourself what it is you are concentrating upon. The discouragement, disenchantment, the disheartened feeling are messages. They are signals, code that lets you know what you are focusing upon. Do you follow that? You always get what you concentrate upon.

You could not possibly capture those signals if your receptors were not already attuned to those signals.

MYRNA: Yeah. Got it.

Now then, when you see something on the boob tube you do not like, do you say to yourself, “I am forced. I am strapped in. I cannot move my feet.’

MYRNA: No, I can change the channel.

KRIS: Indeed you simply flick the thumb. So our suggestion is to actually throw your mind into the opposite direction, to the other corner of the arena and take a better bite. Bring to the surface any feelings, perceptions, imagery of any and all successes of the past and all of the envisioned accomplishments you want to see under your belt and any feather in your hat you wish to put and start generating those messages to bring those situations into your concentration. It is a two-way street. You get what you concentrate upon and you concentrate upon what you want to get. Does that make some sense to you?

Now, when you go to that shady place in your mind, you temporarily go there because there is still a part of you that feels a certain degree of contentment in perhaps bemoaning your struggles. Does that make some sense?

MYRNA: I don’t like to hear that, but yes. (Everyone cracks up)

KRIS: Indeed. Just as you have become adept at working with aspects, call upon any of the Sisters you feel are appropriate and ask for assistance in resolving issues with that aspect that still likes to be a stick in the mud and every once in awhile like to throw mud into your windows. Do you understand? It is perhaps a prankster.

You do not need to browbeat it but to embrace and suggest to it that there are perhaps far more productive means of generating change, transformation, than sitting there slinging mud. And bring it into that part of the mind you can generate filled with the accomplishment of the past and envisioned accomplishments. Do you follow?

If you are going to the mountaintop, bring it with you. Allow it to see the valleys below and far reaching visions of horizons yet to be conquered. And allow yourself and that part of you to breathe in the revitalizing air that surrounds you and if you wish you may even decide to embrace it with all of the love that you can at any level. And then put that issue in the filing cabinet. Not file 13 because that part of you has a great deal of power. It sends powerful signals.

MYRNA: File 13?

[File 13 is the garbage can.]

KRIS: Do not file 13. Not trash it. Simply put it in the cabinet. That aspect of you also shows a disposition to a great deal of energy transformations. Make it your ally and not your enemy and use its energy for future conquests. Conquests meaning transformations.

MYRNA: I am having a hard time accessing that warrior in me. I used to be a tremendous warrior.

ALEX: You still are.

KRIS: We believe that you are kidding yourself. For you to be able to come here and take what we dish out (laughter) shows a Xena attitude. Do you understand?

ALEX: Here, here.

KRIS: Only a real red-blooded warrior would smile at what we say. So that shows us that in some respects you are far more like we are than you thought. So then you have to pick better battles. Does that make some sense to you?

MYRNA: (Stutters and everyone cracks ups.) I have one client that was, I don’t know if you’re talking, I get into this where I’m very confused so bear with me. Are you talking about choosing, when you say different battles, am I supposed to be looking or attracting different clients or am I supposed to be taking a certain attitude with me into some very tough clients? There is one company that is unbelievably hostile and I go, ‘What am I doing there?’ In fact I’m not there anymore.

KRIS: You are not there, but they are still with you.

MYRNA: Ah yes.

KRIS: They do not even pay you rent.

MYRNA: Yeah.

KRIS: This is the time to give them the eviction notice.

MYRNA: Yeah.

ALEX: Well said.

KRIS: When there are pests in your house, you get rid of them. We suggest that you embrace and release them. There is no need to fight. There is energy. Absorb, integrate, love the energy and release it. And go about engaging in the next challenge. You often take it upon yourself as a sign that this is evidence that somewhere you are not up to the challenge. Correct?

MYRNA: Yes.

KRIS: Now. Earlier on we said that when such situation arise it is not necessary to torture yourself. When the challenge is present before you acknowledge it, embrace it, release it.

MYRNA: That’s what I’m feeling, that I rob myself of the warrior energy that I need.

KRIS: Indeed.

MYRNA: When I don’t let it out.

ALEX: Is it similar to what you were talking about earlier about the aspect of self that perhaps is trying to, you’re trying to let it go as a way of dealing with it because you have…..(Kris interrupts)

KRIS: Indeed. There are often occasions where carrying the badge of the wounded may seem like an honorable display, whilst in reality you only keep it close to you in case things fail then the individual can say, ‘See? I knew it all along. I was fooling myself. I am a failure.’ So that would indicate that changes were only at the surface. The roots have not been pulled out, meaning the beliefs have not been changed, and we do not mean that you change a belief to another. You can change one belief FOR another. That is a totally different class of actions.

Thus when there is a part of self that likes to cling to such notions, it is perhaps time to organize a belief yard sale. (Laughter) You know that your energy will be needed by others, thus you can acquire new beliefs. You can focus on new changes for yourself.

MARK: Even if your beliefs are chipped or cracked? (Chuckles)

KRIS: One man’s bad belief is another man’s good belief. (Laughter) But we enjoin you to look at your situation as a further expression of your ever changing, turbulent nature, knowing full well that you can always surprise the weatherman with your inner storm. You have a great power and it is perhaps simply a matter of looking at it from the bottom and lifting it up to those heroic dimensions. And indeed, the symbol of the warrior IS heroic. Do you not agree?

View your perspectives from that level and you recognize when you are moving into that shady place, you feel your energies drop little by little and that should let you know it is time to stop the elevator and go back up. Does that make some sense?

It is merely an entirely subjective action, but that subjective action has a powerful influence upon your objective nature. But it occurs here in the realm of those neurons and brain cells and neurotransmitters.

MYRNA: Okay, so I need a good cleanse.

KRIS: Indeed. You need a good brain washing.

MYRNA: A brain washing. (Laughter)

KRIS: We do not believe there are any good brain dry cleaners in the neighborhood.

MARK: Or brain washers.

KRIS: Now then we will leave your merry selves to their heroicness. And may you all give yourselves the blessings that you do not dare otherwise by the bucketful. And with that we send you to your lovely selves and your lovely evening.

(Session ends at 9:25.)

ALEX: You know what, it’s so funny because once you asked what I was asking in another way it became so clear to me and so I thank you because my problem is now so clear to me. What you were asking…your life just mirrors mine it’s so uncanny. It really is.

MARK: Throw me in there too. (Laughs)

MYRNA: {Unintelligible]

MARK: There’s a sense where you were talking about where his answers helped me as well.

[Several people talking. Can't pick out one.]

JOHN: Myrna always has good questions.

ALEX: She puts them in such a great way that I think it’s relatable to a lot of people. Do you find that?

LIDA: Oh yeah, sure. But I don’t understand Kris in one aspect because he mentioned that you should make up these experiences, that you should store them in your inner filing cabinet.

ALEX: File 13.

LIDA: Not in 13. But I think you should release them.

MYRNA: Actually, that’s what I got when I heard him say store.

LIDA: He said file it.

ALEX: My interpretation of that was release the negative portion of it but then take that energy and harness that energy into something else. Don’t forget the sense of that energy and use that energy in a…..

MARK: I agree. That’s a portion of the transcript that I need to reread.

(Kris jumps back in at 9:26.)

KRIS: The possible can always become real. Now, the reason we suggested that is you cannot eliminate any aspects of your selfhood. You can, however, derive great benefit from the lessons learned, even those you may consider awful mistakes. So there are always methods by which you give yourselves teachings and lessons.

You cannot negate neither can you change or destroy beliefs you think might be inappropriate. You have chosen them. The idea of storing them may be allegorical, but nonetheless the lessons will continue to be part of your psychological history, part of whom and what you are for all times and all envisioned versions of time forever in that sense of the word.

It might also prove useful to other focuses. You will have derived great information and teaching from what you may consider a mistake of any kind. You simply diffuse the charge it affects upon you. No more can you obliterate any experiences that you have had as a child and growing up, but you change their nature and value to yourself to always keep a drawer full of memorabilia and gems and treasure and other such acquisitions because they are part of your psychological makeup, whether objectively or subjectively. They are part of your history, your historical presence in the physical Universe.

How you deal with such situations, how you transform their very influence upon you and therefore upon history is something others can also learn from. So when there comes the time for the sharing of your lovely history, you can go into any filing cabinet, you can go into any what is sometimes erroneously called the Akashic Records and say, “Eat your hearts out. Here is my history. Here is how I changed the face of human history by simply being myself. Now perhaps you can learn something from my experiences or not. It is up to you.”

Because you do transfer and exchange such experiences not only with other expressions of essence, your other focuses, but with many individuals, some you only know of through your dreams and will never meet in the physical. Consider them badges of honor for deeds done.

Your interpretation of a negative experience or situation is only just that, YOUR interpretation. It may contain kernels of truth that will enlighten another individual in ways you could never imagine. Nothing is wasted in the Universe, not a thought, not a hair on your lovely heads. Even the dead cells in your body nourish the microbes and the bacteria that feed the food chain. Nothing is ever wasted.

That is also how you change history, for you ARE history. History is not written for the conquerors by the conquerors, but it is part of whom and what you are. Any other definition of history is only just that, a definition, and there is a significant difference between a definition and the reality. You are the reality of history. That is our story and we are sticking by it. And we stick you with that. (Laughter)

MARK: Quick question off topic. Arindal would like to know if possible an essence name for her daughter Ali and was wondering if she’s a Brahm.

KRIS: Intonation of essence tone would be Muhuull. MUHUULL. Interestingly enough, this is another expression of Arindal, not necessarily as a direct essence tone. Arindal has other essence bodies.

MARK: Of course.

KRIS: Indeed then. We send you to your lovely historical selves and may the bones of your ancestors and your bones when they become ancestors keep speaking about the history of your growth and evolution and loving expressions.

(Session ends at 9:34.)

ALEX: And a fact of that is, you know a difficulty is that again say you were raped, you can’t change the fact that you were raped.

LIDA: But you have this energy connected.

MARK: You can change how you perceive it.

ALEX: And you can actually turn it into a positive because maybe you can speak about it or whatever, but maybe that’s what he’s…..that makes sense to me.

It’s interesting what he was talking about those dream essences at the very end because tonight three times I felt Chance around. I felt him.

[Chance is the name that Alex has given to the energies that she has been attempting to channel.]

Kris jumps back in at 9:35.

KRIS: It is obvious that your ancestral bones are still shaking their ancestral booty.

Now, you indeed have a choice always. That is the nature of your free will. You can choose to be a prisoner of the events of your past and even the events of your future or you become the creator of those events, the designer of your reality. That is a significant difference. And the choice is yours to make. If you choose to be the prisoner of your past, the victim of events and circumstances, then it may indicate that you still have some deep and powerful lessons to learn at that layer of existence where there are some others where you are no such prisoner, no such victim. And you should not berate yourself for that either.

Instead of hating that event, accept it, embrace it, love it and release it. If you cannot love and hope then you are seeking to make another prisoner. Be ready to release it, that keeps the river of love flowing. When you dam it up with insecurities and fears then you prevent the flow of life giving waters. Does that make some sense?

MYRNA: Kris, a question. My essence name is Sharaleene. Is there a Myrna that you could share with me as a warrior? Is there an image that I can have, a past or future Myrna as warrior?

KRIS: Now we do not think there is a sword-wielding warrior, but there is in your terms a future self that has a slightly different occupation than what you do now. We believe this Myrna (pause) raises at least eight children in an impoverished situation, but regardless of the odds against her, regardless of the APPARENT term for her children, she is willing to give them non-judgmental compassionate love. This Myrna has already agreed that the greatest sacrifice in her existence is to see her eight children all become successes in spite of what may come on their path. That we believe is a much more powerful warrior than one who may even head corporations. Does that make some sense to you?

MYRNA: I’ve feeling stronger already.

KRIS: This Myrna has discovered that whatever the odds are, they can always make it into a positive experience. We believe her situation is rather impoverished. You could consider it to be similar to growing up in Harlem, but she is determined that her heart will see her through. You could even tap into this and see that in spite of the path that she may live in a tenement there is an atmosphere that would make even the Saintly humbled. That is power.

(Pause) There is another that is also quite interesting. We are unaware of the time period specifically, but we believe this may be in the 14th or 15th century. We believe this individual may curdle a rabbi’s blood but she is a Roman Catholic and she is believed named afterwards in history as St. Genevieve. Find references to St. Genevieve. There may even be many or at least a few.

MARK: Is that a “J” or a “G”?

KRIS: “G” like George. In French it was be St. Genevieve.

MARK: Do you think she was in France?

KRIS: In Europe.

MARK: In Europe.

KRIS: Perhaps Belgium. See what you can find. You may find some inspiration. And we are not saying this to make it a famous focus. We do not go there.

MYRNA: I’m not interested in famous focuses, more in a warrior.

KRIS: Indeed.

JOHN: I have a quick question Kris, if that’s all right.

KRIS: Indeed.

JOHN: I’ve been reading Charles Dickens since Christmas and just loving it. Pickwick Papers and I’m wondering. I have a kind of a feeling that I may have had a focus back in that time frame, early to middle 1800′s. Just for fun.

KRIS: Our perception is that you may even have been an individual that inspired the story of his.

JOHN: Of Charles Dickens?

KRIS: Indeed.

JOHN: Oh good. That’s pretty fun. Thank you.

KRIS: Indeed. Now we do not advise to collect royalties. (Laughter)

ALEX: Ain’t gonna get ‘em!

JOHN: No. That’s fun.

KRIS: Now with that we will leave you to your blessed historical selves.

ALEX: Kris say hi to Chance for me.

KRIS: Indeed. Now you have done much work. You have broken many barriers and walls you did not think you could ever go through.

MYRNA: You’re so right about that.

KRIS: And you have yet to discover more about whom and what you are, but you have already discovered enough that it made you shake in your boots. (Laughter) Only to realize that there was no need to fear yourself. We do encourage you to continue.

ALEX: I am so humbled by it.

KRIS: Being humbled is good. Being empowered is definitely a step up. (Laughter)

Now with that we will then leave each and everyone of you to marvel at the beauteous creations that you are.

ALL: Thank you.

Session ends at 9:45.

Ellen Gilbert (Kwaa ‘Ji)

February 15, 2005

Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois
Transcribed by Ellen Gilbert (Kwaa’Ji)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on Feb 15, 2005
© Copyright 2005 Avion Rising Inc.

(Serge and I had planned to do the session over Skype, an internet telephony system, which we had tried out previously, and it had worked beautifully, but when the session time arrived, we got some kind of feedback audio loop: our voices kept echoing all through cyberspace. It was comical, and had us in stitches – Serge asked me if I had brought my other focuses along for the session! It was of course completely unacceptable to work with. We went back to the phone lines.)

KRIS: Indeed we thank you for your consideration and we are glad that you have sorted out your gizmos.

ELLEN: Well, I sure hope we have. Good Evening, Kris.

KRIS: Now, what does Kwaa’Ji have in his mind?

ELLEN: Oh, lot’s of crazy stuff! I’ve been commissioned to do your portrait, you know. So what’s up with the appearance of mythological beasties?

KRIS: Now as we have mentioned in a recent session, this is a form or projection of some of our energy as is suitable for another environment, where the laws of physics and belief systems are somewhat different from your own reality environment. And secondly, various aspects of this avian equine form represent some of the Nine Sisters.

ELLEN: Yeah, I read a little of that transcript yesterday I think it was. You said that the wings and legs represent four of the different Sisters?

KRIS: Indeed.

ELLEN: I think you said Grace and Joy for the wings?

KRIS: Indeed.

ELLEN: And the legs…

KRIS: Balance and Harmony. Now the rump is anyone’s guess.

ELLEN: (bursting out laughing) The rump…!! Ha ha ha! And will you be posing for this portrait any time soon?

KRIS: Now we believe that your own artistic talents might indeed bring out the best side. Follow your impulses in this area.

ELLEN: Well, I certainly hope so. It’s quite challenging. But I’m up for it. It’s interesting to me that Serge had this image of you, and Marcy – Arindal – Marcy Singer, had the same image. We’ve been discussing back and forth through email – we’ve been corresponding quite a bit – and it seems like all of a sudden, everybody’s having dreams of man/animals!

I had a dream, not long after you gave me my Essence name, where I saw a man, standing – um, sort of waiting for me it seemed like – and his face kept morphing into that of an animal-type face and then he would look more man-like. I thought it might have been Kwaa’Ji, but I wasn’t sure. I felt…cautious…and sort of shy about – you know – wanting to approach, yet not wanting to at the same time. Then recently my daughter Shani had a dream of a winged woman with a face she said looked like a mouse. She said this woman had a beautiful voice and she came and she talked to her group. Shani is always dreaming about a group that she’s with that goes and learns lots of different things, and they practice skills – psychic skills – and um…I was just interested what was your impression…what you thought she [the Mouse Angel woman] might have represented.

KRIS: Now, do keep in mind that the intonation or Essence name of Kwaa’Ji is one expression of Essence.

ELLEN: I understand that.

KRIS: As you are a valid and cherished expression of that Essence as well. Also keep in mind that at another layer if you wish, you have more than one Essence body. You are more than one Essence simultaneously. Thus, it is inevitable that when there are perceptions from the inner senses, that there are attempts by the neurological processes and the physical expression to interpret data or material in a manner that may make sense to the overall personality and ego structure.

Without those junctions, that allow an interface between the subjective and its many layers, and the objective, you would be unaware of any actions of consciousness. You would be merely aware of physical exchanges. When there are sufficient interactions between subjective and objective, then indeed, the depth of the experience is limited only by the capacity of the individual to remove the boundaries and barriers to its own innate wisdom and knowledge. Knowledge of Itself. Does that make some sense to you? So far?

ELLEN: Yes, I guess so. I’ll probably be studying this transcript.

KRIS: Indeed.

ELLEN: So it’s – it’s an interpretation – it’s the interpretation of me, and in terms of Shani’s dream, it’s her interpretation –

KRIS: Indeed. Now –

ELLEN: — of her Essence?

KRIS: Indeed, and (pause) and as well…because there is a close interaction between yourself, Shani, ourselves, and your corresponding with Arindal…

ELLEN: Uh huh

KRIS: …some of these details can easily be communicated telepathically without you specifically utilizing verbal communication whereby Shani would have listened. Do you follow?

ELLEN: Yeah. Yeah, that’s really neat.

KRIS: As well in her case, she did then try, as best as she can, to interpret the subjective experience of actually being in a psychological atmosphere in an area of the psyche where she was in touch with various other expressions of her Essence.

ELLEN: Uh huh. She was with a large group.

KRIS: Indeed.

ELLEN: She recognizes the same people in her dreams over and over.

(Interesting note here: Shani told me that the Mouse Angel Being told her group that she created “this world” – the area in which Shani and her group had gathered, which was a beautiful park area within an immense temple-like building full of many rooms and stairways, etc. and that they were guided through by an instructor-type fellow that she recognizes as re-appearing in many of her dreams. She also said that before seeing the actual mouse/Angel Being herself, she saw a statue of her, somewhere along a corridor.)

KRIS: Indeed. Some of these are friends that only communicate in the non-physical, never to be met in the physical. Do you follow?

ELLEN: Yeah.

KRIS: And others in this group are also expressions of Essence. And she tried to give form – emotional form – to the energy of the collective Essence, meaning the Mouse Goddess. Do you understand?

ELLEN: I think so.

KRIS: This is the way she could make sense of it for herself in imagery.

ELLEN: Shani said she was very, very beautiful, and that she came among them all and spoke to them for a long time, which I thought was pretty…a pretty great dream!

KRIS: Indeed. She should utilize it in her meditation, especially the image of this Being.

ELLEN: She’s artistic, too. I should get her to draw it.

KRIS: If she can, indeed that would be excellent. You could say it is a composite expression of her own Essence. It is not the whole ball of wax. This is one expression she allowed herself to perceive as long as she could give it interpretation. Without being able to interpret, to transform energy from one state to another, the individual and the individuality retreat from physical existence.

That is what you do as a species. You translate energy from one state to another. Emotions, for instance, are not the message, nor are they the messenger; but they are a translation of both. Images such as what you have perceived, what she has perceived, are not the real item, but they are an expression. One perception of the Source. They are symbols.

ELLEN: Wow…while I’m mentioning Shani, she’d like to know what her Essence name is.

KRIS: (long pause) We intone Essence name as In-DRU-lee-AH.

ELLEN: Oh, that’s pretty. Spell it?

KRIS: I-N-D-R-U-L-E-A. Indrulea. You could say that the Mouse-woman is one reflection of Indrulea.

ELLEN: OK. And the animal/man I saw was one of Kwaa’Ji?

KRIS: Indeed.

ELLEN: Interesting. Well, that’s a lot to think about.

(Here some time was taken up with a discussion of the interpretation of several recent dreams I had, a bit on the personal side, so I am editing; but I wanted to include the part where Kris introduces his Triple A Method. Here he is summing up for me what a particularly emotionally-charged dream I had represented:)

KRIS: But this (dream imagery) also indicates that there are emotional charges within your own realm, if you care to call it that way.

ELLEN: Uh huh.

KRIS: Whereby there are perhaps deeply buried memories.

ELLEN: Am I playing with fire?

KRIS: Indeed not. You would not have been able to allow yourself that experience would such an experience be beyond your own capacities. So you are learning in small steps to acknowledge, address, and accept certain experiences.

ELLEN: So as a technique, is it valid, is it useful?

KRIS: Indeed. Because the recognition will help to defuse. Not by fighting headlong and locking horns – but by rather creating a safety valve that enables you to do just that. Do you understand?

ELLEN: Yes, I do. Interesting. A little bit – creepy (laughing – the dream had a scene that royally creeped me out!). And a little bit intriguing at the same time.

KRIS: Now do you know what these three “A’s” are?

ELLEN: The three A’s?

KRIS: Indeed.

ELLEN: (uh oh! Brain freeze!) No, I don’t think so.

KRIS: Then when you receive the recording, find this part which exists approximately 23 and a half minutes into the discussion and in that way, write down these three stages. We may even include it as a Practice of Perspective.

ELLEN: Okay. Sounds good. Sounds like I’m going to be smacking myself in the head for it when I hear it. One of those “D’OH!” things.

KRIS: A Simpson’s moment.

ELLEN: Yep. (laughing) Oh man!

KRIS: Please feel free to continue.

ELLEN: I’d better get my other kids’ names or they’ll be mad. So let me do that before I forget. Could you give me Kalila’s Essence name?

KRIS: Indeed. (pause) Essence name can be pronounced B-I-T-U-L-L-A-N. Bit – too – lan.

ELLEN: Bitullan. That sounds masculine, is it?

KRIS: Even though gender is irrelevant, there is a masculine overtone to her persona.

ELLEN: Uh huh.

KRIS: As is in yours.

ELLEN: And Rafi?

KRIS: (long pause) We will offer here a Sanskrit name. It is pronounced Bal – a – ram. B – A – L – A – R – A – M. Balaram. He has some affiliations and perhaps some as-of-yet untapped interests or being drawn to certain Indian tendencies.

ELLEN: American Indian or East Indian?

KRIS: From India.

ELLEN: I was wondering about Rafi: one time I had a dream a couple of years ago, where I got the impression where he might be a focus or a fragment or something of my mother’s brother, whose name was John Bodine, who died in 1931 at the age of 12. It’s kind of a long dream, I won’t go into it, but there was some content in it that seemed to point that way.

KRIS: There is a (pause) a link… to that particular expression or focus; though of course, this is not the same individuality. This could be said to be another facet of a similar resonance. But yet retains its own eccentric individuality.

(Editing of other personal dream material)

ELLEN: When you had told me some time ago to sort of meditate on Kwaa’Ji, or to invite Kwaa’Ji to have more of a presence in my own Being –

KRIS: Indeed.

ELLEN: Well, one night when I was trying that I got the sudden impression of sort of a feeling of buoyancy – I was thinking about the Vimanas – and I got this feeling of buoyancy almost like a bubble of air pushing against my stomach and the thought came to me that – I wondered if the control of the Vimana was somehow controlled through the solar plexus area, and if the crystals used were crystals that were particularly attuned to that area of the body. Was that a valid impression?

KRIS: For those Vimanas powered by crystals it would be fairly accurate. Though the crystals are also picked and made to resonate to the frequencies of the operator, him or herself, thereby creating a unique energy signature field working in conjunction with various aspects. The Vimana itself being a type of manufactured living substance. They were not like planes that you have nowadays, but very private vehicles.

ELLEN: Yeah, I also had the feeling that it was close around my body. It was just a brief impression, but it was kind of strong. It was either that, or it was gas.

KRIS: You can eliminate the latter.

ELLEN: (laughing uproariously – Kris can be so deadpan in his delivery!)

KRIS: Pardon the pun.

ELLEN: Well, you know, you’re always second-guessing yourself.

KRIS: It is a good thing to acquire and develop critical observation faculties; but not when you do so at the expense of your own good nature. And in some instances worry about worrying.

ELLEN: That’s for sure. That’s something I do a lot of, and I see that in my card spreads a lot. But I was just interested if that was a valid impression or not.

KRIS: Indeed. Please continue.

ELLEN: Once through a brief automatic writing experiment I was trying, I got the words “We speak through weakness” and I talked about it a bit on newworldview.com. I was wondering if you could give me your impression of what that phrase meant.

KRIS: Keep in mind these are early and preliminary attempts at communicating with the board, Correct?

ELLEN: It wasn’t a Ouija board, it was an automatic writing attempt — but yes.

KRIS: When communications from other sections of the self are translated there are times when the translation can become slightly garbled, much like when you play the telephone line in those little games children play. Do you understand?

ELLEN: Mmhm

KRIS: It quite possibly originated as weak signal from another part of the self interpreted specifically in that manner.

ELLEN: Ah!

KRIS: With refinement, you can increase the capacity and the potential of this resource.

ELLEN: Just keep trying, huh?

KRIS: Indeed. There are many individuals that are firmly convinced that on their first, or perhaps their second attempt they will receive revelatory material that should transform human life to its very core, without thinking that this is first of all setting themselves up for an utter disappointment; and actually setting expectations in areas where there should be none. Set a genuine friendly attempt to open a communication with other parts of self.

ELLEN: So it might actually have been a hint that I needed to – to work for a stronger connection.

KRIS: And this is achieved through practice.

ELLEN: OK

KRIS: The athlete does not become strong the first time on the track. The athlete, or athletic runner, needs to practice many times, many hours, and many years to achieve his or her optimum speed and performance. Do you follow?

ELLEN: Yeah, definitely.

KRIS: Another similar example is the child in kindergarten. Because the child is in a type of school does not mean that within a few hours he or she should be able to pick up any university level manual and begin to offer their thesis. Do you understand?

ELLEN: Oh, yeah.

KRIS: There needs to be a gradual, consistent development. Similarly, keep trying your hand at these types of communication.

ELLEN: OK. I wasn’t sure whether by “weakness”, what was being conveyed meant “receptivity” or “allowance.”

KRIS: This might also have been a secondary role in trying to draw your attention to those aspects of yourself whereby you may assume that you are a weak individual.

ELLEN: Uh huh.

KRIS: Trying to get your attention to what you consider weaknesses in your own personality makeup. Does that make sense to you?

ELLEN: Yep, certainly does.

KRIS: So with that it is natural that the signal would have been weak because of your own uncertainties in this area.

ELLEN: And guards that I might have put up.

KRIS: Indeed.

ELLEN: Yeah, that makes sense. That’s something I tend to do automatically, even when I don’t want to.

KRIS: All of these are for you opportunities to understand more of your own psychological make-up. No action is undertaken and acted upon without inner reflection excepting those rare occasions when you need to either decide to fight or run. Do you understand?

ELLEN: Yes.

KRIS: Life is indeed a series of opportunities to examine that which you are teaching yourself and then building upon such a foundation you become truly a different individual.

ELLEN: A learning experience.

KRIS: It is more than that, but still, a powerful learning experience where you come to recognize how it is that you transform energy from one state or another into something entirely different by appearances through the auspices of a gambit consisting of attitudes, expectations, emotions, perceptions, and so on and so forth. All of these are filtered through the lenses of your belief structures and you end up with who you are now.

ELLEN: (jokingly) One confused woman!

KRIS: On the contrary! … (slyly) You-u…someti-i-i-mes… play the role of “woe is me.”

ELLEN: Oh no! I don’t want to play the victim!

KRIS: When you recognize this, then you can release it, creating different behavior patterns.

ELLEN: Yeah, well I don’t want that behavior pattern.

KRIS: Indeed. It is so cliche!

ELLEN: That’s for sure.

KRIS: (Humorously) And – one never knows how to properly dress the victim for going out.

ELLEN: Yeah, for real. Basic black?

KRIS: Now do you have another lovely question?

ELLEN: One question about Kwaa’Ji. I’ve used the cards now and again to try and get a little insight on him, what times were like in his time, and a lot of time I get from his character that he was rather um – highly rational, highly into the “masculine” side – I was wondering if sometimes he might have been so far into that at the expense – maybe? – of the “feminine” qualities?

KRIS: To a certain degree. Remember that he was a highly specialized engineer.

ELLEN: That’s sort of what – I just keep thinking I’m getting that [impression from the cards].

KRIS: Now this is only one expression of Essence.

ELLEN: I know.

KRIS: There would have been other expressions that displayed compensating behavior.

ELLEN: Well, that’s why I think it’s that maybe I – my own expression – is compensating somewhat.

KRIS: Indeed. There is always a certain degree of a balance.

ELLEN: Because I’ve chosen to explore in this focus more of the feminine characteristics.

KRIS: Even though you embrace certain masculine qualities, you have been able to balance them out through the nurturing aspects of feminine energies.

ELLEN: That’s what I kind of thought I was getting from the cards. Um…it’s just kind of a way to teach myself more…I mean I just keep learning more about how to use the cards… so it’s interesting. I just wanted to know if I was getting the right impression of what Kwaa’Ji was all about. Were people of that time – that second Vedic wave – on the whole, more like that? More into the rational so-called “masculine” side of the personality?

KRIS: One does not need to look at the characteristics of one specific individual and assume that all his contemporaries did the same. Just as in this society, one does not necessarily need to assume that because a certain group of people may be more proficient at certain activities that all the people at that same time are alike.

There were many different expressions, perhaps even more so than your present civilization allows. But each one also had different sides of the coin to work with at the same time, creating an apparent chaos, just as in your present society; but at the same time that apparent chaos or, quote unquote “unpredictability” is itself highly predictable, for it is in some respect – steadfast. Does that make some sense?

ELLEN: Yeah, yeah. So, good, they didn’t swing to one side at the expense of the other, in other words.

KRIS: There were very many compensating factors and each individual had his or her eccentricities as does the people in your present time. There always needs to be extremems at both ends of the spectrum, and everything in between. Does that make sense to you?

ELLEN: Yes. And it’s good to know.

KRIS: Indeed. Just as in your own private existence – there are many extremes displayed but they are not the norm. Correct?

ELLEN: Correct. Thank goodness.

KRIS: Indeed. As such, the world is once again safe from another Ellen.

ELLEN: (laughing) Phew! Wow, that was a close one!

KRIS: And overall, you have seen that the last six to eight months have brought about a good deal of change in your own personality structure.

ELLEN: A great deal of change.

KRIS: And you are far more confident now than you were a mere few months ago. And we encourage you to keep pursuing your individualized realizations. There is no set standard for these types of inner events. One has to deal with the chosen parameters of the singular existence and work with that material of choice. There are some areas where more or less there are specific rules and laws to abide by. For instance, you cannot suddenly decide to stop breathing and expect you will still continue your daily activities. So you have to deal with specifics in areas of value creation. Do you follow?

ELLEN: Yes, I do.

KRIS: Now what is the time?

ELLEN: It is now…9:00.

KRIS: Indeed. May we suggest that we conclude our lovely discussion; but at the same time, we would like to suggest to you that there may be some occasons when you figure out the skype thing, that you are discussing with Joseph, that you make allowances for our own participation as well on an ad hoc basis.

ELLEN: Okay.

KRIS: With that, we thank you for your lovely self and its interactions, and may your dreams be as light as any vimana you might fly.

ELLEN: That’s beautiful. Thank you.

Great Heroic Love

February 14, 2005

Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois
Transcribed by Marcy Singer (Arindel)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on February 14, 2005
© Copyright 2005 Avion Rising Inc.

Roll call in Toronto: Serge (Joseph), Mark (Philip), Myrna (Sharaleene)

In Castaic: Paul H. (Janaki), Joanne (Rosalie), Ester (Benata), Drew (Onoru)

In Oregon: Norm (Ambrose), Reta (Leihuu)

Session begins at 7:58 pm.

KRIS: Now we thank you all for your generous consideration and the spending of your time with our humble self.

ALL: Hello. Hi, Kris.

KRIS: Indeed, welcome near and far, or is that perhaps near and Farb? (Laughter)

(Farb is Norm’s last name.)

Since your present culture celebrates this day (Valentine’s Day) as a day of love and intimacy, we would like to offer you a small chant of welcoming love. You do not have to do anything but perhaps simply to open your heart and love to these sounds.

Kris Chant:

Small sounds that pack more wallop than a box of chocolates. Now you will have felt a change in your vibration or energy, whether you are in Oregon, California or Toronto. Correct?

ALL: Yes. Correct.

KRIS: That is our small offering of love to all of you.

ALL: Thank you.

JO: You’re welcome to come down here for some chocolate cake.

KRIS: And whom is to say we have not already eaten it. (Laughter)

JO: I thought it looked a little lighter.

KRIS: Now earlier you were speaking about the Nine Sisters and its transformational and petitional aspects. Our perspective on presenting this material is perhaps to awaken the individual to a higher process, therefore reaching those plateaus of higher intellect because not many individuals are accustomed to blending and working both the intellect and the intuition, the emotions and the rational mind. There are sometimes apparent struggles and dichotomies depending upon the perspective that is utilized to understand the material up to this point.

And it is our further intention to delve into some of the explanations of self. For instance, your medical sciences tell you that as a physical body you are a bag of blood, bones, and pus and very little else, and quite likely even more unappetizing things. (Laughter)

Your psychological sciences have been created to try and give you a perspective of the non-tangibles up to a certain point. But you already know that for the most part you are not your physical form alone. You are more than the walking and sleeping bag of pus, as lovely as it may appear sometimes. (Laughter)

But what about the rest of you? You have an understanding that you express emotions, feelings, desires, ambitions and various other intangible states that impact the physical state. Then our question to individuals is: “What is that intangible self made up of?” For surely, as the physical is made up of skin and other systems, respiratory, eliminatory, it is made up of blood, bones, muscle tissue and organs that in their own manner reflect the expression of the intangible that you ARE, which in a logical way following that logic means that as in intangible you are also made up of INENTS that are themselves intangibles. You know you have intentions but can your intentions be dissected? Indeed not. Your feelings, unless you demonstrate them, are invisible to the human eye. Your thoughts, unless you share them, are unseen and so on and so forth.

You may have heard that somehow or other you are focus or ‘expression of essence’. What does that entail? These are indeed marvelous descriptions. I am essence. You are essence. They are essence and so much more essential grammar. But what are these things made up of? What are the composites? So our humble attempt then is to help define that intangible dimension or dimensions in a manner that you can grock. And in a manner that will be practical so that you understand that you have tools and resources at your disposal at all times. And regardless of the nature of the challenge that is before you, you have the means, the tools and the resources to alter the definitions of whom and what you are as well as the outcome.

Now we are not claiming, we make no claims that this is a magical incantation or that this will provide you with a magic wand and all of your ills and challenges and confrontations with physical reality will disappear. That is not the case. You will continue to express the aspects of your being in many different manners, some that may appear pleasant, some that may not appear so pleasant. But nonetheless the manner in which you deal with the outward manifestation of the inner field of events can be dramatically altered. Your perceptions about your abilities for value creation can be transformed.

And some of these potent tools we have chosen to extract from materials that are already before you, present in your world but nicely camouflaged in the guise of religious text and mythological literature. These all come from, whether religious sacred texts and mythologies, they all come from the heroic dimension that we spoke about which is related to Frameworks 2 and 3 and 4. And it gives you a much wider and larger and deeper arena within which to display these tools and resources, and as a result you no longer have to fear the one thing members of your species fear more than death itself. And that is in part the topic for the celebrations on this day, LOVE.

Now this particular subject matter, love, is not something that happens to you. It is not something that you fall into like a bucket of fat. (Laughter) It is something that is ingrained in the tissues of your being that comes out in your physical form because it is one of the essential non-essentials of your existence. It exists over and above any of the concerns that may plague individuals or your entire species because it gives you the sustenance and the energy that you need for as much as you allow it in your precious lives and your lives, though already precious beyond measure, truly attain the height of the experience when it is allowed to manifest in your lives, in your existence as happiness and joy and compassion.

And indeed it should be the prerequisite before you begin demanding that the Universe provide you with abundance, provide you with large bank accounts and the latest sports car and the biggest house on the corner. For indeed once you are fulfilled with this quality that only requires four letters, love, then indeed the whole of creation becomes a natural extension and expression of that quality which is entered deep into the human heart and naturally in that state everything you need for value fulfillment is naturally expressed within the boundaries of your existence. And then some.

When an individual begins to crank up the volume on the state of worry and hurry, then the voice of love is ignored and the source of the human heart begins to withdraw and then worry and hurry take precedence. Worrying about not having enough and hurrying on to the next subject to worry about. And a vicious cycle is then enabled as a poor artificial substitute for the other state that may even be temporarily suspended and disbelieved.

We are not saying that one should not aspire for wealth and fortune, but when it takes precedence over joy and love and it is used as an excuse to attain joy and love, then indeed the tables are turned and there is an imbalance. And what you may call the creative life force, universal energy, or even the laws of attraction may indeed still function, but they may then do so to demonstrate to the individual that in spite of massive amounts of wealth and fortune and real estate, there is a gnawing feeling deep in the human heart that something is missing.

Now the individual as a choice may realize one of two things. One perception may be that what is missing is more wealth, more real estate, more fast cars, that will make me happy surely. Or the realization may be that what is truly missing is love and joy and peace and so on. And that the trinkets cannot actually substitute for the original source of power. And though one may have all of these trinkets, they are not necessarily a sign of enlightenment. But what can be a sign of enlightenment can be the manner in which love and joy are expressed and become foremost in that individual’s experience. And then the trinkets acquire a different value.

This is a symptom of your modern age and commercial enterprises, marketing and advertising, research and development. They have studied human psychology and the more they can convince you that the path to love and happiness is to have whiter teeth, whiter whites, better washing machines and they wait and they see who bites. And when you are hooked they know all they need to do is to keep pumping out the substitutes. They are in some manner then, an (unknown word or phrase) to keep you from realizing the nature of your joy and happiness as you consume more and more.

And again our intention is not to denigrate having all of the amenities of modern life but to perhaps speak to the human heart with the intent of recognizing that having a firm hold on love and joy and so many other states is far more fulfilling than to constantly replace those states by artificial means.

Many consumers of modern goods turn their nose up at the homeless, the drug addict, the alcoholic, often without realizing that though they may not take drugs or consume alcohol and they are not homeless, they have their own addictions, addictions that seek to replace and suppress the true nature of the human heart. That loving mood, that deep connection to ‘All That Is’ is where the source of your being not only is but lives, and you are each and every one of you a precious expression of that universal force that you call love in your experience.

Do forgive if we appear to be preaching from the pulpit, which is not our intention. But perhaps if our humble voice helps create a resonance deep within your being then all you have to do is to recognize where you are at, where you are going, and see what you want to do about your experience. And we believe this is why the material on the Nine Sisters has an importance and a place in your societies because these are innate tools. They have always existed within the human psyche. We are simply giving them names, making an attempt to point out the specifics and perhaps give you an occasional insight into the makeup of the human personality over and above and beyond the traditional uses of the psychological sciences.

And in this manner you may find yourselves joyously confronted with the greatest of all human challenges, finding where to express the love that is in the human heart in spite of the fact that it may appear to you that your heart may have been wounded and hardened. There is still much room for growth and understanding at that level and much room for sharing this eternal capacity for loving expressions, one of which happens to be each and every one of you.

So love is not something you express only on Valentine’s Day with a hefty helping of chocolate cake, but it is something that can be part of your daily perceptions. It simply requires a shift of perspective. And in such a small inner action if every individual on your planet concentrated on loving expressions, subjectively and objectively for even five minutes out of twenty-four hours, you might recognize that your brothers and sisters, whether they wear different skin color or come from a different ethnic background or even have a different sexual orientation, are themselves each and every one a loving expression.

Then you might just be tempted to put down your weapons and your arms and forever change the face of reality, because when you become fearless and heroic in loving expressions you are no longer bothered and no longer need to fear the other. You no longer need to fear that someone will injure or hurt you emotionally, psychologically or physically because the love that you give off, the love that you live will be represented and expressed within the other since the other is you.

So now we will give you a lovely break so you do not become too loving yourselves. That way we can get off our soapbox. And we will return to you shortly.

Break begins at 8.31.

There was discussion about Kris’ opening chant and the effect it had on people. Mark talked a little about the various soundlets Kris has offered and how they convey different emotions.

Joanne had prepared 10 Valentine favors including candies and a quote about love from either Seth, Elias or Kris for whoever attended, and she offered to choose one for each person. She then proceeded to read a love quote for everyone that was not present in Castaic.

There was some discussion about how the Sisters have been translated over the centuries by various cultures and belief systems. Mark suggested the idea that the various voices, Seth, Abraham, Elias, and Kris and others are ‘causal’ to the shift in consciousness and Jo and Paul offered that we are being presented with a map of the psyche.

Sessions resumes at 8:45.

KRIS: Now of course the human psyche cannot truly be mapped because it is living dynamic energy and its components such as the Nine Sisters are themselves imbued with these same loving qualities. So we are not providing you with a definitive map of the human psyche and no other intelligence can claim any more than that. But you can understand it as an artist’s impression. Does that make some sense to you?

JO: Yes, thank you.

KRIS: In that manner there is indeed (pause) a conveying of information that opens the doors to the realization of your own innate psychology, but this time from the inside out. This goes much deeper than your contemporary psychoanalysis because it literally invites an explanation into the very nature of the makeup of the psyche and its various parts. Thus when you consider that these living qualities are part and parcel of the makeup of your psyche, then it can give you access to incredible transformational tools, but also tools that transform energy from one state into another. And the psyche is a vast repository of energy in literally unlimited quantities that allows you through the lenses of these intents or Sisters to transform your physical reality.

This is more than the simplistic idea of clicking your heels three times to find yourself in Kansas only to discover that Dorothy and Toto have moved on. (Laughter)

Since everything in reality which includes physical reality, for physical reality is not the sum of all of reality, everything is in one state of energy or another. And through the innate qualities of these Nine Sisters you change the perspective and the focus. This is done from within, no longer at the request of intermediaries through antiquated systems but directly through the interactions of all of the factors, your thoughts, your will, your intention and so on and so forth, your attitudes, your expectations. That energy is transformed into the events and conditions and circumstances of human life.

You are each one of you a powerful dynamic force much like a miniaturized, localized black hole and your thoughts, which includes the entire gambit of your emotions and feelings and intentions and expectations, they themselves are brighter than millions of suns put together. For even your thoughts themselves are made up of cells just as your physical form is, with the exception that your thoughts cells have a more primal energy to them that lends itself to being malleable so that it can conform and appear within the confines of physical reality through the auspices of your lovely sense. And then they are gone to immediately be replaced by others, these particles of consciousness.

And each and every one of them, if you care to direct your attention to this, each and every one of them is made up of what you so loosely call love and loving energy. And because you restrict your loving energy to a small range of expression within human interactions you often miss the big picture, and you do not see your heroic self as also filled with countless particles of loving energy. But if you do direct your attention to such a topic then you can not only anticipate but expect that your heroic self and your so-called regular self will transform these energies into loving displays that are filled with fearless expressions for you will not hide your often misjudged frail human heart behind shields of psychological stone and brick and steel in case you might get hurt.

In fact once you remove these artificial barriers, the entire world and the whole of reality changes because YOU, a singular individual, dares to love not just your partner, not just your friends, not only your children, not only your mistress, but you dare to love what some would even consider unlovable, meaning the other person. And that is because you refuse to deny yourself all the love that the Universe can provide as much as your physical and neurological and psychological self can accommodate. That is what being fearless in love means. Does that make some sense? Or should we rephrase that to ‘Do you follow?’ (Laughter) Correct?

Now then, we have a small practice we would like to engage your lovely selves in, if you are in agreement.

MARK: Indeed.

KRIS: Are you in agreement out in the land of palm trees?

CASTAIC: (Laughter) Yes!

NORM: Sure

KRIS: Indeed then. All you need do is be comfortable and pretend for a moment that your heart, your very human frail heart with all of its scars and scratches and wounds of the past is not your true heart but one that you have pasted upon as a camouflage, as a trophy of sorts. And for a moment you have the power and the ability to look past all of its wounds and sufferings and pains and scars and see that within it there is a vital, vibrant flame of fire, of passion and compassion.

And as you contemplate this flame you can momentarily release it as an experiment to see how much this loving flame can consume you from within and how much the power of this fire of love can burn away years and decades of mistrust, of fear, of pain and sorrow and how in the act of burning it up it replaces it with fearless power, a strength you did not know existed within you and can flow into your veins, into all parts of your body and to such a degree that it engulfs your entire being so that for a moment there is nothing that exists but the power of this ‘great heroic love’ that straddles all dimensions and limitations and knows nothing but itself because it is what you have now become.

And this moment of powerful love flows from you to all other individuals in the room until it is overflowing and reaches like a massive flood, reaches over the countryside and the landscape and literally floods the earth until you realize that you are in love inside a love with everyone and everything.

And now that everything, animal, vegetable, mineral, human or otherwise is flooded with your love and you are filled with it, then gently return to the original space of your own human heart and deal with what you feel at this moment. Absorb it and let it infiltrate every molecule within your physical form even into your psyche that you know from this moment on even though you will open your eyes and see what you think you saw before, that you know somehow or other things will also be different and that your relationship with self, with yourself and other self, may no longer be as it was before.

And with this we give you a small break so that you can cool off. Do get a small break now.

Break begins at 9:01.

Norm mentioned that he was feeling very hot and flushed. He was also wondering if Kris can feel love that is directed towards Kris. Also what about the Sisters? Paul remarked that he believes they can read our energy. Norm also wondered if the Sisters have human qualities such as emotion or sexuality, etc. Paul said that they do not.

Kris returns at 9:04.

KRIS: Now we did suggest this would be a small break. Now whether we read your energies or not may be entirely relevant in the larger scheme of things. What is important is that in many ways we offer ourselves as a humble voice, a melodious voice for your energies and your intent. So whatever degree of loving perceptions you experienced is not because of us, is not because of the meditation, but it is because you have allowed what is already in your heart to make itself known to you. It is a gift that we have tricked you into giving to yourselves. (Laughter) Does that make some sense?

(Yes)

Now this exercise and what may occur with you over the next few days is not to be considered how you NEED to lead your lives but it is given as a measure of what is possible. And you can enter this state at will by allowing it, not by forcing it. And such lovely selves as you all are, are indeed most blessed as are all individuals in your world because the opportunity and the potential exists for each and every one of you to share of this sweet energy. It is sweeter than any pot of gold chocolates and there are no calories, guaranteed! (Laughter)

Most of all make an attempt to give, to offer yourselves this loving interaction upon awakening. Make it your gift for the day to yourself and your partner, to your friends, to your entire world. And then you may observe how your experiences in daily life have actually been transformed.

And as an aside for those who have an interest in Judeo-Christian scriptural works, the original intent of the mythology of the Apostles being gifted by the Holy Spirit where it describes that flames hovered over them and they could speak and be heard in any language is a distorted interpretation of what you have in each your own unique ways experienced. It is concerned with deep loving healing presence within the human psyche, though with time and millennia the original stories obviously changed.

We did want to point this out so that you have an inkling that this also is not something new but something ancient that is newly reintroduced to you. And it truly has little to do with a specific religious cult but with deep inner creeds for the psyche has its own dogma, quite unlike any dogmas that you find in religious doctrines on your planet. Do you follow?

(Yes)

Now what is the time?

MARK: 9:13

KRIS: Perhaps a few small questions then we will leave you to enjoy your lovely buffet.

JO: Thank you Kris. This is Rosalie. Our friend Marge would like to know her essence name please.

KRIS: Where is Marge?

JO: She is in New Jersey.

KRIS: (Long pause) We would offer our interpretation of essence tone as Suma-Lee.

JO: I know she was really looking forward to that. Thank you very much.

PAUL H: Kris, I have a follow-up question for my younger brother Eric. He would like his essence name and six-pack.

KRIS: (Long pause). We would offer essence name as Kenala, (Pronounced Cain-Allah) belonging to Gramada/Vold/Tumold, aligning with Sumari/Tumold/Sumafi.

PAUL H: Thank you.

PAUL T: Kris, this is Antolian.

KRIS: Indeed.

PAUL T: A small story and a couple of questions. I had an impression of the focus of Antolian who was what we would refer to as a Centurion in a time approximately 1400 BC in a land which time probably somewhat forgotten, maybe the Isle of Crete. Fast friends with another Centurion that they spent many hours together in many different activities.

KRIS: Repeat the time frame you impressed.

PAUL T: 1400 BC

KRIS: Historically the Roman Empire did not exist at that time frame.

PAUL T: Yes. I was using the term “Centurion” merely as a way to refer to a leader of some number of men.

KRIS: Indeed.

PAUL T: These two friends fought many battles together and in the last battle that they fought together they found themselves mortally wounded on the same battlefield. They could not see each other but they could hear each other, and before they died they made a pact that they would meet again and speak with each other. As I said the one essence was myself, Antolian, and I believe the other, the physical focus name was Markius. And I’d just like to say it’s taken quite a few years for these two friends to start talking to each other again because I believe Markius was your focus.

KRIS: We believe this was perceived nicely on your part. In some respects Markius would have been a secondary expression, not one directly of concern in a certain manner or of concern for ourselves, but nonetheless an energy projection. You might find it interesting to pursue some of the relationships these two individuals explored, for indeed it was often very colorful and eccentric.

PAUL T: Yes, I was hoping you would have time to fill in with perhaps a story or two or perhaps we will save that for later. Are you saying in Elias terms you were an Observing Essence of that focus?

KRIS: It would foot the bill.

PAUL T: Okay. And yet those were epic or heroic focuses.

KRIS: Now we will trust that you can explore this subject matter some more. And do not be shocked by what you find. (Laughter)

PAUL T: That would take quite a bit these days. I shall. Thank you.

KRIS: Now then we thank your lovely loving selves for the gift you have presented to yourselves. You are indeed braver than you think, more heroic than you possible imagine, but then that is the key to imagine yourselves as heroic beings. And with that we send you to the adventures that physical reality offers you and the opportunities to fearlessly express love. With that we send you our blessings and return Joseph to you.

ALL: Thank you.

MARK: 9:21. Kris has left the building.

Sessions ends at 9:21.

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