United By the Bonds of Consciousness
November 29, 2004
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois
Transcribed by Marcy Singer (Arindel)
Editing and footnotes by Paul Helfrich
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on Monday, November 29, 2004
© Copyright 2004-2005 Avion Rising Inc.
Roll Call in Toronto: Serge (Joseph), Mark (Philip), Alex (Darrold).
Roll Call in Castaic: Paul H (Janaki), Joanna (Rosalie), Jeanette (Esohna), Paul T. (Antolian), Gail (Sofia), Drew (Onoru).
Session begins at 7:54 PM.
KRIS: We thank you indeed for your consideration, and we welcome those near and far and greet you with all the humbleness that we have at our disposal.
Indeed as you have noticed there is a discussion in many corners of the Internet that seems to speak about apparent incongruencies, and this is a good sign. It indicates that, as has been pointed out, there is an endeavor to bring together “unity through diversity.” This is an important stage for all of those concerned.
On the one hand it serves very little purpose to say, “Who is this Brahm entity that dares speak differently from Elias or others that is not 100% in accord with every word spoken with our brother Elias”, when indeed so much IS in accord with the other? And our point specifically is that there must be some growth and fulfillment by uniting the apparent differences by providing an intermediate developmental stage that brings balance and harmony and understanding.
Especially when both sides of the issues are claiming that there are no contradictions. Why would others then make claims of contradictions when in truth there are none except in the individual’s own egoic structures? Such claims are usually found within religious belief structures where one religion and its adherent’s claim that they hold the cornerstone of truth and all others do not.
Such claims, even though they are often disguised in the name of metaphysical enlightenment, usually end up revealing their true nature, and do disservice to both sources, especially to the one who is claimed to be “the teacher.” So the onus is not on Elias nor ourselves, but on the individuals holding the perception to bring about unity within the diversities of information presented. And that is where in that meeting place that the seeds of growth, fulfillment, and evolution start to take root, and the true foundations of knowledge can be developed.
And the same can and indeed should apply at all the levels of society, so that mankind can also recognize that amid the diversity of teachings, of lifestyles, of philosophies, there are countless seeds of truth to be found, and that these seeds, these pearls can indeed be strung together to create a most wondrous necklace, which only helps refract the resplendent beauty of the individual. And for all intents and purposes, that is our story and we are sticking to it! 1 (Laughter)
Now we sense in your small group a very strong presence. Do you also notice this, all the way in California?
GROUP: Yes, yes, yeah. (Laughter)
What are your impressions?
JOANNE: Well, we are getting ready for Christmas so we have lots of presents (referring to a pile of presents in the room). (Laughter)
PAUL H: (Laughing) Bada-bing, bada-boom!
KRIS: Does that mean that now we must have a pretty red ribbon? (More laughter)
JOANNE: Yeah. Actually I noticed it right before you asked the question. All of a sudden there was “weight” to the situation we are in.
PAUL H: I just had a feeling of being watched, I guess. Something – a group, not a singularity – tuning in.
GAIL: I would have to agree with that. It felt like more than one. There are many different tones in it, and the weight of it is quite heavy.
KRIS: Anyone else care to venture their impression?
PAUL T: I got a male energy associated with the presence, and the aspect of “Watcher” is definitely there.
JOANNE: I’m getting a very loving feeling from it.
KRIS: You may notice that this so called energy may fluctuate much like waves, and you will catch some of the edges of those waves. This energy that you sense is what we call Dream Ancestors. You are familiar with that, Janaki?
PAUL H: Yes quite. Elias calls them Dream Walkers and Seth calls them sleepwalkers. 2
KRIS: Indeed. Would you care to venture as to why your group is sensing this energy now?
PAUL H: Well, Elias in his explanation of this Dulvar energy made a very general and vague comment about the Dream Ancestors somehow being more efficient in their expression. That is my rational guess. 3
KRIS: What is your subjective guess?
PAUL H: (With eyes closed) Ha ha! My subjective guess is really the presence of these energy waves that you described. That’s all I can sense. That’s all I can translate right now, just as you described it – waves of energy – a gentle, present, sentient awareness.
GAIL: I have a comment. I was wondering if it has anything to do with the new alignments of the planets and opening somewhat of a new door to have stronger energy coming through.
JOANNE: I would like to venture that it has something to do with the shift in consciousness and the Dream Ancestors being constantly involved in co-creating our reality, and that they may want to be more hands-on or they are slightly more tuned into these events.
PAUL T: My impression regarding the whole Dulvar family and how it plays in with the Sleep Walkers or Dream Ancestors is that within another probability that this has already been actualized. This is the way that I reconcile the differences, as they are perceived, and that it still remains a consideration at that sort of Regional Area 2 and 3 that this still may become inserted into what we perceive as the consensual reality.
KRIS: Now all of your impressions are valid to one degree or another, and before you become metaphysical about it, we would appreciate if you allowed us to lead you into a small practice to enable your perspective to align with the energy in the room.
PAUL H: Great.
KRIS: Indeed then, allow yourselves to be as comfortable as possible right where you are, and imagine that the place you are at right now is a convergent point of time and space, a point where flesh and spirit come together, a point of entry into the finite and the infinite simultaneously, a point where you can be simultaneously the individual that you have always thought yourself to be, and the individual you have yet to discover yourself to be.
And at this meeting point, allow yourselves to feel not only the rhythm of your heartbeat coursing through your veins, but also the rhythm of the very tone of your being, as if your entire being, physical and nonphysical, has its own pulsation suspended in eternity, and that this pulsation, this pulsar Self, is able to adjust to the very energy of the room that you sense in that room, and become as one with It so that you can experience Its very nature.
And allow that Energy to align with your own as your own aligns with It. And you can allow yourself momentarily to bridge both of those worlds, both of those realities without any reservation. And within the very core of this field of diversity you are able to feel the unity of the moment.
And as that moment expands in time and space, you can feel It. Feel the room you are in until that moment expands to such a point where the room is no longer able to contain It, so It must also continue outside into the neighborhood, into the hills, into the countryside in all directions, like a gentle zephyr caressing the landscape, and the trees, and the treetops, and the clouds, flowing in all directions, reaching into far away lands over oceans and continents.
Continue imagining that this moment engulfs the entire planet, and the moment bathes the entire world and your experience in your moment, and that all of the diverse thoughts and actions of men and women may even appear to you to have a unifying goal.
And deep in the heart of your being embrace that moment, and embrace everything within that moment, and gently return to the room you are in. Become aware of the experience of your body. Bless those Dream Ancestors. Thank them for the sharing.
Take a nice long breath, a deep breath, and on the count of three you will open your eyes. One. You can wiggle your fingers and toes, and take another breath, and two; you can even move your hands and feet, your shoulders and neck. And as you take a deep breath, open your eyes on three. Now. And become fully cognizant and conscious of the room and your place within it.
Now what is the time?
MARK: 8:18
KRIS: Then we will give you but a small break so that you can come back to your ordinary senses in unity.
Break begins at 8:18 PM.
MARK: Are you guys awake yet?
GROUP: Getting there….
SERGE: Anybody there? (Laughter) So how was that?
JOANNE: It was lovely! My mom’s never experienced anything like this before.
JEANETTE: Well…
JOANNE: Well, no?
JEANETTE: …not anybody like Kris.
JOANNE: That kind of guided meditation?
JEANETTE: Yeah.
JOANNE: What do you think of Kris?
JEANETTE: Oh! I loved the unity in diversity. That’s the secret.
SERGE: So I guess everyone else is still sleeping?
JEANETTE: The person you thought you were, and the person you think you can be, or will be. It’s hard to understand. 4
I just love the universe, and I just feel so held back so many times, with the problem I have of being in the house so much. But like in the airport (coming here) or when I go to the store, and I just love people, and I think he was almost suggesting that. And then I thought about the Enneagram 5, I think that by knowing yourself and knowing other people you can get along better, have an understanding. A lot of people think that’s kind of a number thing that’s really good.
SERGE: Well Jo, is anybody else awake there? (Laughter) If not you have my permission to put water on them.
JOANNE: They are very relaxed from the meditation. I really loved that.
SERGE: Any new impressions?
PAUL H: I had a visual. It’s hard to explain. It’s like being under water, being other dimensional, so there’s a veil, a barrier. And on the other side was a vast Dream Walker energy, but it was not fully formed because I’m on the physical side. And the barrier, the veil, rippled, it was permeable, and out of that cloud of transparency a little shape pierced the veil, so to speak. And it was like a seed that came through. It was physically like a yellow-orange color, and very physical, and clear, and glossy almost. And on the other side, there was this vast hint of the same shape in a harmonic kind of relationship of the size to it. It’s hard to translate, so there were two sides – vast big source translating into a physical construct on the other side. That’s the best I can do.
ALEX: That’s very interesting though. Wow.
PAUL H: Yeah, on the other side is the Dream Walker energy. It’s vast, and it’s unformed, it’s nonphysical. I didn’t know if he was going into this essence of Rose area. That’s very big in Elias’ body of information as Rose is an important Dream Walker within his Messiah mythos. So I didn’t know if he was going there or not because it would not be uncommon for this essence of Rose to be very present with this group. 6
So I don’t know if my impressions were a specific thing about Rose or more towards the Dulvar, and Elias’ comment about Dream Walkers 7. Kris didn’t touch that. He didn’t respond to it. That’s not good or bad. He’s digesting things from his perspective, too, I realize.
JEANETTE: I felt like he related to me.
Kris returns at 8:24 PM.
KRIS: Now we have not completely forgotten you. Earlier on it was brought up, the topic of planetary alignments. Do you recall?
GAIL: I just know that they are supposed to make five points.
KRIS: Now we wish to present that from our perspective, everything that is perceived by and through your physical senses, including other celestial bodies, planetary systems, galaxies, and even universes, are representational of different cupboards and rooms within the house of the Self. So when there is talk of planetary and celestial alignments, including Astrology, you have then the planets as representing different actions and movements within the consciousness of the individual doing the perceiving.
They are symbolically speaking about actions of consciousness. That is why some of these systems such as Astrology, and others to a certain degree, work within the context of the human personality structure. There is indeed a truth or validity to these different divinatory systems. So we wish to acknowledge that it is not so much that the aligning of these planetary bodies has an influence or exerts an influence upon events, and circumstances, and human beings as much as they indicate that consciousness exerts a causal influence upon matter structures. And it is very important to keep that in mind. Does that make sense to you?
GAIL: Yeah.
KRIS: Which planets have you now taken off to? (Laughter)
GAIL: I’m zoning.
KRIS: Does that make some sense to you?
GAIL: Yes it does.
KRIS: The fact that you appear in the world, each and every one of you, actually causes physical matter to organize itself according to your perceptions, each and every one individually, and each and every one collectively. Were one of you to not appear into the world of events and circumstances then physical reality would be different. But that is automatically altered the moment any one of you takes birth, because you bring with yourself all potential realities, and you share those with all other consciousnesses in the plane of existence you manifest your focus.
So you do change history. You change reality. You create new realities, and you do not do this merely from the perspective of your ego constructions, but from the perspective of the whole Self.
And this energy that you still sense in the room with you – this Dream Ancestor imagery – is a gift not only from our humble selves, but is a gift from one particular individual in your room that is usually not in your room. Someone we know, someone who knows us, and someone who is actually unawares of her Dream Ancestor activities. Do you follow?
GAIL: Yes I do. I can feel it.
JOANNE: Is that my mom, Kris? Jeanette?
KRIS: Indeed.
JOANNE: So she brought the Dream Ancestor with her, in a manner of speaking?
KRIS: This is one of her activities as Self.
JOANNE: Is this typical of her energy or is this something special for this evening?
KRIS: In some respects it is a gift as a combination of her energy and our own presence. So therefore it is a present to your lovely selves.
ALL: Thank you! (Laughter)
KRIS: You thought you would get away with your pun! (More laughter)
JOANNE: I was fully expecting that! That’s very nice. Thank you.
MARK: Can you elaborate a little more on your relationship with Jeanette?
JOANNE: Are you talking to me? Or…?
MARK: Kris.
JOANNE: Okay.
KRIS: Did everyone hear your question?
MARK: Did everyone there hear my question?
GROUP: Yes.
MARK: I was asking that to Kris.
KRIS: For the time being we will say that we are known to each other, as she is one of the essences of our own body.
PAUL H: One of the sixteen?
KRIS: Indeed. Now we also did say there are primarily sixteen, but there are more. But for the time being sixteen is sufficient. 8
JOANNE: May we have her essence name?
KRIS: Indeed you may. Her essence intonation is Esohna. You may spell that E-S-O-H-N-A. Esohna.
JOANNE: And her family “belonging to” and “aligned with” please?
KRIS: This is in a manner of speaking precedent setting, because not all of her belonging is in the Taaj cluster.
JOANNE: I’m not surprised! (Laughter)
PAUL H: She’s not from around these parts! That explains a lot.
KRIS: Now we are certain you meant this in the most sacred manner.
JOANNE: Absolutely. (More laughter)
KRIS: Indeed! Now her primary origins are in a cluster we have not named yet.
JOANNE: Okay.
KRIS: We would call it the Anarruu. It is spelled simply A-N-A-R-R-U-U. (Anna-roo)
PAUL H: Would you care to put a number on that? You’ve outlined seventeen thus far.
KRIS: Perhaps we will let you figure that out. You can easily, simply put it in numerical order following what you already have.
PAUL: Okay.
KRIS: Of themselves, the clusters are not concerned with the numbering system.
PAUL: Got it. 9
KRIS: It is simply the next one in line. This cluster, the Anarruu, [has] approximately fifteen intent families. They are much like, in overall purpose, as Gardeners sending seeds to other clusters, and the main function is very much as in the main topic we spoke about – seeds that bring forth unity and psychological mood that helps individual focus expressions recognize the greater scheme of things, the underlying realities behind the actions, both as consciousness into matter, and of the interactions of essences within the concept of matter. This is a very nurturing action, and we believe that this is a quality attributable to Esohna as well. Is this correct?
JOANNE: Yes, in fact she usually brings something with her to plant in the ground when she visits.
MARK: Interesting that Paul had the vision of a seed.
PAUL H: Yeah. I’ll detail that more later.
GAIL: My overall feeling when I was relaxing was an abundance of loving energy so overwhelming that it brought a tear to my eyes.
KRIS: Indeed. That sweetness stems from, it arises from your own heart.
PAUL H: I had another impression during all this of the “divine mother,” really just a female energy in a conventional, mythic religious garb, “divine mother” energy. That’s just an interesting parallel.
KRIS: Now what is the time?
MARK: 8:41.
KRIS: We will leave you to have a very small break again, so that you can discuss.
Break begins at 8:41 PM.
JOANNE: (To Jeanette) Okay, I’ll explain all of that to you. That is way cool!
JEANETTE: I felt a real bonding with everybody in the room.
MARK: Do you guys remember Jeanette’s comment during the first break?
JOANNE: Which one?
MARK: She started talking about her perception of Kris, unity, unifying, etc.
JOANNE: Yeah.
ALEX: It’s really interesting because when Kris first asked the question to you out there, asking if you felt the energy, a different energy that you had not felt before, a very strong energy, the first thing that came to my mind was Jo’s mother, but then you went off on this tangent and I thought, okay, I’m not even going to say anything, which was a really stupid answer. But that’s the first thing that came to my mind, that it was her. So that’s really interesting for me.
MARK: I think we’ve got some really perceptive people down there.
JOANNE: This is the first I’ve heard of Kris having a focus.
SERGE: Well, they’re not focuses.
JOANNE: Okay.
PAUL H: It’s not a focus.
JOANNE: Sorry.
MARK: No need to be sorry. He’s aware of sixteen essences that make up his awareness.
JOANNE: Okay.
MARK: Now as we also know from the quadrants of consciousness 10, he’s explained that essences can have essences, as well as essences can have focuses, so I think when he talks about the original sixteen and now he says there are more, I believe that’s what he’s getting into, is that those sixteen essences have essences.
JOANNE: Right.
GAIL: The tree branches off.
JOANNE: Right.
MARK: I know we’re looking at it linearly.
JOANNE: Is this the first that you have discovered someone who has….
PAUL H: No, her essence is one of Kris’ “essence bodies.”
MARK: I’ll need to build a list now.
PAUL H: Yeah, that’s a good thing to chart Mark.
MARK: Of course, there’s Joseph [Serge] and Philip [Mark].
JOANNE: Okay.
PAUL H: And now Esohna [Jeanette].
MARK: And there’s Arindal [Marcy].
PAUL H: That’s the fourth essence of the Kris gestalt.
MARK: And I don’t know the essence name, but also Markus in Germany. I’d have to turn on the computer, but I think it’s Laurimar or something.11
SERGE: So we have a new family. (Laughter)
PAUL H: Yeah, Anarruu.
PAUL T: But he didn’t finish Jeanette’s “belonging to” and alignments.
PAUL H: No, he didn’t flesh that out, and I’m wondering if that orange yellow is Vold/Gramada somewhere. The seed in my visualization was an orange-yellow.
JOANNE: Well, we know she’s Milumet/Ilda. Or that’s been my impression. (To Jeannette) We’re talking about your family of consciousness.
PAUL H: This visual I had, it’s interesting that Kris played off of that. He talked about, as Gardeners, this Anarruu cluster, and then sending seeds that bring forth unity and help focuses recognize the greater scheme of consciousness into matter. That’s exactly what I saw in that veil, and as this cloud of unformed energy on the other side gets close, it takes on the shape of this vast, huge seed and then when it pierces the veil, just this little tiny seed comes through – perfect. And it’s like this is the creative essence behind all physical manifestation in a way, and I know the Dream Walkers play a role at their own layer.
It’s interesting. We’ve got Dream Ancestors, a new cluster…. (Laughs)
MARK: And he’s not telling us the whole story.
PAUL H: No, I know. It’s just snapshots, that’s all we get – post cards.
PAUL T: Post cards.
JOANNE: My mom has always planted seeds in my head about different ways to look at things, and it’s really nurtured that creative part of me. I’m very fortunate.
MARK: You wouldn’t be where you are right now…
JOANNE: Yeah, I wouldn’t be here now.
MARK: …in more ways than one, if she hadn’t nurtured you in that direction.
JOANNE: Yup.
PAUL H: I thank her every Mother’s Day. (Laughter) I do. It’s part of our Mother’s Day ritual.
JEANETTE: That’s right. I love it, too.
PAUL H: So this “belonging to” extends into a new cluster – typically when he gives “belonging to,” primary, secondary and tertiary, he uses Taaj cluster names. So I’m wondering what’s up with that?
MARK: …except when he gave his own.12
PAUL H: Right. So since this essence body of Esohna is in a different cluster, it makes sense that we’re not in Kansas anymore. It’s like the nine families are kind of shedding their skin.
Kris returns at 8:48 PM.
KRIS: Now, some nine families may shed their skin, but do not tell that to those who would keep their skin, even if it were to fall apart around them. (Laughter)
Indeed this evening you have much diversity in your discussions and experiences, and overall you are united by the bond of consciousness. Are you not?
PAUL H: Absolutely.
KRIS: In such a manner then, there is within each and every one of you an innate understanding that regardless of the words used or the individuality that speaks the words, each and every singular particle of your being contains the whole. Thus even at the smallest unit possible, there is contained within you, within your blood, within your bones, within your flesh, within your toes, and within your eyes and your hair a complete brilliant radiant magnificent universe – one that sings its abundance, its joy, in very simple ways so that you can express whom and what you think you are. And in such simple terms you can take the very energy given you by consciousness and transform it into the actions, the events, the circumstances and the conditions of your lives.
And in each single molecule that comes together to compose the great symphony of your body and yourselves, there is an orchestration of sound that you do not hear. There is a song of joy that does not need to be heard as much as it needs be made manifest through the beings that you are. And as we have on a few occasions expressed some of those sounds. So you have an idea then, of what is coming. Correct?
GAIL: No. (Laughs)
KRIS: So we will give you a few sounds…
GAIL: Oh!
KRIS: …to enable you once again to perhaps enhance the connections that you feel in that room this evening. Is this a welcome idea?
GROUP: Yes.
GAIL: Kris, was it one of the tones that I heard when I was in relaxation?
KRIS: We will do our best to do it justice, though we may not necessarily accomplish that since we have to use our Joseph’s vocal cords. (Laughter, as it’s a running joke that Serge doesn’t sing very well.) Do you understand?
GROUP: Yes.
KRIS: (Chants for 1:08) [Insert intonation here.]
Now, unfortunately Joseph’s voice box is not a synthesizer (laughter), but did you feel the vibrations in the sound? And they have left an interesting impression upon you. Correct?
PAUL H: Yes.
KRIS: Would anyone care to describe?
PAUL H: The first tone brought me back to the visual I had during the meditation of the two-sided… it’s hard to verbalize, it’s hard to adequately translate it, but it’s right here in my awareness. The fluctuations in tone were sort of going back and forth between these two states, differentiated/undifferentiated – creation itSelf. That’s the best I can do.
KRIS: Anyone else?
GAIL: To me it just felt like a pulse.
PAUL T: The second tone reverberated and was synchronized, for lack of a better word, with the tone, which I had during your first visualization, which I had identified with essence, for lack of a better term.
KRIS: How did you respond to these sounds, Esohna?
JEANETTE: I don’t know. I was so busy trying to pick up on some other things that I have no answer.
KRIS: This is fine. We did try in the first note to create vibrato that would give voice to the waves that are still in your space.
PAUL H: It worked for me.
PAUL T: And the second tone?
KRIS: That was specifically for you, and others, but specifically for you.
PAUL T: It worked.
KRIS: We would not neglect an old friend. (Laughter)
PAUL T: I do have all the rice out of my beard though. 13
KRIS: Indeed now the trick is that you should win at checkers. (More Laughter)
PAUL T: One thing at a time.
KRIS: So what is the time?
MARK: 8:59
KRIS: Indeed. Now you have been so kind this evening that if you so wish you may ask questions.
PAUL H: I have a question. Would you give Esohna’s “belonging to” and “alignment”?
KRIS: Primary “belonging to” of course is not within your system. Family primary belonging is Oomelia, secondary Tumold. And not everyone indeed need have tertiary belonging or aligning. So we will now go to alignment. (Pause)
Primary alignment: Zuli, secondary: Milumet, tertiary: Ilda.
PAUL H: Primary alignment was Zuli?
KRIS: Indeed.
PAUL H: And “belonging to” tertiary there is none.
KRIS: Indeed.
PAUL H: And the primary “belonging to” is Oomelia?
KRIS: That is what we believe we said.
PAUL H: Will you spell that? (Pause)
KRIS: Now you are asking for miracles? (Laughter)
PAUL H: One can always hope. (Laughing)
KRIS: O-O-M-E-L-I-A.
JOANNE: Kris I would appreciate my “belonging to” and “aligned with” as well. (Pause)
KRIS: Primary belonging is Sumafi, secondary: Gramada, and tertiary: Ilda. Aligning with primary: Milumet, secondary: Sumari, and tertiary: (pause) also Milumet.
GAIL: Kris, can I have mine please?
KRIS: All six?
GAIL: Okay! (Laughter)
KRIS: We do understand that you just had your Thanksgiving and you are looking for more food.
GAIL: Yeah, it was good! (Pause)
KRIS: Belonging primary: Gramada, secondary: Milumet, and again this will be a bone of contention, but tertiary belonging: Dulvar. Aligning with [primary] Milumet, [secondary] Ilda, and that is it for now.
GAIL: Okay, I must be growing, right?
PAUL H: Would you be so kind as to give mine please?
MARK: I knew that was coming. (Laughter)
ALEX: Ever so politely! (Pause)
KRIS: Primary belonging: Zuli, secondary: Gramada, tertiary: Sumafi. In aligning there is primary Sumafi, [secondary] Milumet. (Pause) Tertiary is Sumari.
PAUL H: Thank you.
PAUL T: I’ve been requested to ask for mine, if that would be okay. (Laughter)
KRIS: Then this is very much a family evening. (More laughter)
PAUL T: We’re surfing the waves. (Pause)
KRIS: Primary belonging is Gramada, secondary: Dulvar, tertiary: Zuli. Aligning primary: Sumafi, secondary: Milumet, and this is it for now.
JOANNE: You paused before you gave my tertiary alignments, and I’m wondering if I’m in a state of flux, and that’s why it took awhile to access?
KRIS: Indeed, perhaps even an affiliation with another family that may eventually develop on its own.
JOANNE: Okay. Because I had thought at one point that I was aligned with Dulvar. Is that the other possibility? Or am I going to connect with another cluster from someplace else?
KRIS: We do not believe there is specifically a need for another cluster connection.
JOANNE: Okay, thanks.
KRIS: You have plenty to do and on your plate as it is.
JOANNE: Yes I do. Thank you.
MARK: Thanks for helping me fill in my database. (Laughter)
KRIS: Are there any other questions?
JOANNE: We are wondering about our friend Drew (who was attending his first session). We would like an essence name at least.
KRIS: Essence name Onoru. O-N-O-R-U.
JOANNE: Thank you.
KRIS: Now what is the time?
MARK: 9:10.
KRIS: Indeed then we will return Joseph to your lovely selves, and we thank you again for your wonderful consideration, and for sharing of yourselves so nicely. Allow the world to also partake of the buffet of the soul. And we thank you and return Joseph now.
GROUP: Thank you Kris.
Kris departs at 9:11 PM.
JEANETTE: I was straining so much to understand him, I missed things, and you laughed….
JOANNE: There were things that you just haven’t heard before that are kind of background; they’re inside jokes in a way (referring to the “rice in beard” comments).
MARK: …the session was very statistical.
PAUL H: Well, we finally went there.
ALEX: I can’t believe you guys didn’t know your “belonging to” and “aligning with.”
PAUL H: I think he gave me “belonging to” before, but I still can’t find it. So that’s just an interesting check, too. 14
JOANNE: I notice that I have Milumet in the first and third position of my “aligning with.” Is that typical, that they’re two in the same set?
PAUL H: There’s not a large enough database for anything to be considered “typical” at this point, right Mark? …Although for three cases he did not give any tertiary. For Jeanette, there was no tertiary “belonging to,” for Gail no tertiary “aligning with,” and for Paul Tews no tertiary “aligning with.”
MARK: It’s the first time we’ve had a physical focus that comes from an outer cluster [other than Taaj].
PAUL H: Right, Jeanette’s primary “belonging to” is Oomelia, and I’m glad I asked him to spell it, although maybe they get themselves into trouble this way, because he presented Umill as a secondary for his own “belonging to.”
MARK: Yeah, I know. I didn’t catch that until the second time when you brought that up.
PAUL H: So I knew it was familiar, and he spelled it U-M-I-L-L, and that’s kind of how I spelled a hybrid of it in my notes, and maybe it is a hybrid. I mean once we get into these shades of color of essence tone, it’s just a buffet. (Laughter) It’s so vast. But it really doesn’t matter, to have that kind of specificity in spelling; it’s not a mathematical precision, although it is an experiential precision.
ALEX: I wonder if there could be a masculine/feminine thing as well? Like Umill/Oomelia kind of a thing? I wonder if there’s an energy difference in….
PAUL H: I don’t think it’s about gender Alex. At that level of the Nest or Self or All-That-Is, it’s transgendered. That energy of intention is not coalesced into gender yet.
ALEX: Yeah, you’re probably right.
MARK: Maybe next week we’ll get Serge’s info. We know Joseph’s “belonging to,” but we don’t know Serge’s “aligning with,” after how many years? Twenty-eight?
PAUL H: Well, that was an interesting session guys, as always. And I was wondering if he was going to bring Jeanette into it, and he really went there for the middle part of the session. I mean, he included her as an example, which is interesting.
JEANETTE: I’m an example! (Laughter)
ALEX: You’re a lot more than that!
JEANETTE: I’m a lot of things!
PAUL H: She’s eighty-four years young.
MARK: Wow!
ALEX: Your essence name [Esohna] is absolutely beautiful!
PAUL H: Yeah!
ALEX: If anybody ever calls you anything, you give them Esohna. Okay? You tell them that.
GAIL: (To Jeanette, who’s quite new to all of this) That’s your essence name.
PAUL H: That’s your soul name.
MARK: …I think I’m going to call this one “United by the Bonds of Consciousness.”
GAIL: Very nice.
PAUL H: There you go. Good title!
ALEX: It helps to bring the whole Elias/Kris thing together.
PAUL H: You know Kris has his own perspective. He said that again tonight, when giving essence info. He said, “From my perspective.” He qualifies it, and that’s his uniqueness within consciousness. You know, and it’s beautiful that he is using the Sethian nine families and Eliasian nine families. He continued with Gail when he said, “Dulvar.” He said, you know, “I’ll rock the boat again,” and yet when he gave Paul Tews his “Dulvar” he just went right through it without any qualifications. So it’s just an interesting expansion and variation on this theme of innate intention and this Dulvar thing
…You know, the “fat lady” hasn’t sung on this one by any means. I think we can go for months and years on this one.
SERGE: Well, she’s probably very, very fat. (Laugher)
PAUL H: Well, she hasn’t sung yet! …
PAUL T: I feel like we have the first six bars of a symphony.
PAUL H: Yeah, and he closed with that “enjoy the buffet of the soul.”
JEANETTE: Oh, wasn’t that beautiful? That’s why I’m speaking out with things that I can deal with. Although some of these words… He used the word “simple” and “manifest.” Manifest your simplicity! I think that sometimes we use too many big words (laughing).
PAUL H: And Elias has said that, that it’s just that we get used to complexity and sophistication because this physical reality is very complex and sophisticated, but yet a lot of this is really very simple. And it can be broken down. I think they all – Seth, Kris, Elias – the best teachers are able to break it down and keep it simple.
JOANNE: And you know I’m not surprised that my mom’s “belonging to” primary is this other cluster, and my own impression was that she’s “belonging to” Milumet. So to me, it was the closest approximation to this other cluster – child of the universe.
PAUL H: Child of the Kosmos! Daughter of the Kosmos.
JOANNE: As we all are.
JEANETTE: It’s funny, in the very beginning the visualization was just like you were flying.
GAIL: What’s your favorite color?
JEANETTE: I do love purple. I think blue has been….
PAUL H: Zuli is your primary alignment. That’s Elias’ color for Zuli.
GAIL: I just kept getting purple. It would start big and get little. Then you got a tone, too, during the meditation? So did I. I was trying to pay attention to both at the same time and was like, whoa! (Laughing)
PAUL H: And that big tone is what I saw. There were two sides. That’s the action of creation. Well, I’m translating it into physical, linear terms.
SERGE: What did… Kris gave a couple of sounds?
GAIL: Yeah.
SERGE: The first one I momentarily became fully aware as if I was inside, it’s hard to describe, but I became aware of the sound, and it was like was inside of it. And I don’t have words for it. It was like I was inside the sound he was making. And it was like a long, long tunnel.
MARK: (Humorously) It was a long, long sound. (Laughter) I couldn’t believe a human being was putting that out. I was gasping.
PAUL T: Did you have any recognition of the second tone?
PAUL H: We had a terracing effect, in terms of volume, when he did his tones. And it sounded like a noise gate was kicking in, and I don’t know that these telephones we use for the sessions have noise gates, because they’re full duplex. …It sounded stepped to me…
MARK: In the beginning he was very constant, but then he got into that step-work.
PAUL H: I’m curious, and I hope that you’ll post it whenever you sample it, and post a link to it on the Kris Chronicles, because I want to hear if it sounds anything like what we heard here. It was literally like (makes repeated w-AH, w-AH, w-AH sounds). I’m exaggerating, he did it much more musically, but it was really pulsing. It was almost like a noise gate was kicking in. And the second tone was the softest pianissimo I ever heard over a phone. It was right on the threshold of….
ALEX: A what?
PAUL H: Pianissimo. That’s a classical music term. In musical notation you have one “p”, then you have two “p”s, and for a really super-soft you have three “p”s. He was right on the edge of perception, at least what I heard. The breath, it almost sounded like it shut off.
GAIL: It just kept going so faint, so faint, so faint, so you could hear it. That’s what I got.
PAUL T: I heard it the whole way through. The interesting thing was that there was, for me, a phasing effect to it. So that there were like two different tones, they had a beat frequency in between them almost.
SERGE: I’ve gotten some comments from people who’ve heard the sounds, that we posted on the website, and they mentioned that the true impact comes when he stops it. That’s when it hits. I don’t know if that makes any sense.
PAUL H: Mmhm
PAUL T: Oh yeah.
JOANNE: I’ve had that happen.
SERGE: I wonder what’s up with that?
JOANNE: It’s like it brings your attention to these waves of energy in the room that adds, in his terms, what he brings song to. That how he describes the sounds. So without the sounds, then you’re left with the actual energy.
ALEX: And you have to rely on your outer senses; you rely on your inner senses.
PAUL H/JOANNE: Right.
ALEX: So this continues. It’s like the echo will still stay with you and your inner senses will pick it up.
JOANNE: Right.
ALEX: The same kind of thing is like when you look at auras, you actually see the aura. And people who read auras actually see the aura when they close their eyes. So they no longer rely on their outer senses. I think it’s the same kind of thing.
PAUL H: Yeah.
SERGE: So was it a good evening?
MARK: Yeah.
ALEX: Really good!
SERGE: What was the beginning like?
PAUL T: In what terms?
SERGE: I did get the gist, the sense that he had a very specific point to make at the very early part of it.
PAUL H: Well he did. He was dealing with the contradiction/no contradiction idea. And he specifically went into the Brahm (Kris) and Elias.
MARK: Our “brother Elias.”
GROUP: Right, right.
MARK: Whether that’s literal or not, but … (laughing) you do have to question his words [Kris'] when he does that and sometimes I don’t and I should.
PAUL H: Yeah.
ALEX: Also Serge, he was saying that the onus is not on Elias and Kris; the onus is on each individual to bring about unity within the diversity of information as presented to us.
SERGE: One of the things I sensed when he was delivering that is that he was more or less saying, and I’m not sure how to put this, but he was more or less saying, “Stop messing up the material that Elias is giving you.”
PAUL H: Stop distorting it. Elias would say, “You are distorting it.” He does, he says we all distort it based upon our perception, which is all completely unique.
He started out with apparent incongruities. He called it “a good sign.” And then he went into this unity through diversity, which is what the integral worldview is all about trying to get a handle on, so that you can situate all of this diversity, and it doesn’t have to be squeezed into a cookie cutter, military-industrial little mold. You know, where you’re all just in this narrow frickin’ mold.
PAUL T: Yeah, he talked about that in terms of religious beliefs as well.
PAUL H: Right.
(Tape ends.)
ENDNOTES:
1 Kris refers to the debate on various email lists over tenth family of consciousness (Dulvar) that he introduced during the September 6, 2004 group session:
http://www.krischronicles.com/transcripts2/newfamily-sept06-2004.html
Seth originally introduced nine families in The “Unknown” Reality, Vol. 2 (1979). And Elias has continued to expand the concept, making it a central part of his information. Several people asked Elias about this tenth family, and his response fueled further debate. Here’s the first of two Elias commentaries:
ELIAS: Good afternoon.
LYNDA: Good afternoon. I’m going to start with a question our friend Serge has about some information that Kris brought that Serge would like a comment from you on, and that is regarding a tenth essence family that Kris has described (1) and Serge just wants to know what you have the say about that.
ELIAS: (Nods, closes eyes for several seconds.) Very well. You may express to this individual… (closes eyes briefly) the possibility of another essence family associated with this physical reality was [just] that, a possibility, but it is not. There is no tenth family being formed in association with this physical dimension for it is unnecessary, and also, would be contrary to the movement of this shift in consciousness, for this shift is not being inserted to generate utopia.
And as I’ve expressed many times, you are not eliminating beliefs, and you are not eliminating belief systems. You are not eliminating experiences either, and duplicity is a belief system, which is also not being eliminated (shakes head). Therefore the temporary consideration of another essence family forming to be moving in conjunction with this shift has been chosen not to occur, for as I have stated, it would be contrary to the movement of this shift and to the purpose of this shift, which has been quite explicitly designed and explained.
LYNDA: Thank you very much.
ELIAS: You are welcome.” [session #1636a, October 02, 2004]
Comments:
1. Here is the original session in which Kris delivered this information. Note that there are a variety of related concepts:
KRIS: Now since we have started presenting some information on these clusters of consciousness with various families composing these clusters and we have presented that our own home base is what we call the Gaura Cluster. Perhaps we would like to continue on a tangent on that information. Considering that there are literally infinite branches of these consciousnesses that can be explored, and in order to facilitate this information and in your terms, we simply do so in a linear fashion since it is difficult to express this material simultaneously.
Now we have identified our own home base as the Gaura Cluster, with an average of seventeen hundred families as the base and we have also suggested that in your cluster where your nine families of consciousness hold their area we call the TAAJ and that we are aligned with three families.
We have explained that this alignment enables us to visit your cluster since we have our residency in another. Our own cluster and our families, specifically, our own belonging to has qualities that are found in the Sumafi, the Sumari and the Milumet families in your cluster, which enables then the traveling through these specific psychological atmospheres and enables contact with your lovely selves and all of your lovely families.
Now perhaps we will expand upon that as well. Our own family belonging in our own cluster, our family is of primary belonging as HARDOOR, which can be spelled as H-A-R-D-O-O-R, but the double O is not DOOR but rather DOER. HARDOOR is our primary belonging and the secondary belonging can be pronounced UMEAL, U-M-I-L-L. And our tertiary belonging can be pronounced ZETEER, Z-E-T-E-E-R. And each of these three families in our cluster have intent qualities similar to SUMAFI, SUMARI, and MILUMET in your Taaj Cluster as they are expressed.
This facilitates the bridging of those specific areas and allows communication with Joseph [Serge], again with your lovely selves and this is the first introduction to other families of consciousness that exist in other clusters or clans or clumps of consciousness outside of the consideration of your own cluster of families. So in some respect these represent extended families of consciousness in terms of far off cousins in foreign lands that you may not have known about previous to this time.
As a continuation of this information there is something that many individuals have been noticing but only ever so lightly, marginally speaking, because it is not a completed process on the one hand, but on the other hand it is simultaneously a completed process in so many words. But all groupings or clusters of consciousness with their various families are not necessarily set in consciousness-stone. There [is leeway] available for alterations, for emergence and for emergencies (laughter) and as such, your own group of families of consciousness is in the process of acquiring a tenth member. And as such, we have somehow or other been instrumental in adding to the original nine families of consciousness with a tenth family.
This tenth family can be called the DULVAR, D-U-L-V-A-R (Duel-var) introducing into your cluster and with your previous nine families some new blood, so to speak, variations and even a new perception of intent that provide additional perceptions, additional energies, and as such expands what you already have in those terms. And the Dulvar family also brings with it elements found within our own Gaura Cluster, providing a bridge of consciousness to your families and ours in a manner different than simple occasional visits, but actually creating an affiliation in so many words.
(Kris pauses, takes a deep breath and exhales.)
Do you have any questions at this time or do you wish a very brief break?
PAUL T: This is Antolian with just a quick question. Is this tenth family of consciousness in the Taaj cluster somehow related to the eighth Chakra, which is being introduced at this time?
KRIS: Indeed not.
PAUL T: Okay.
PAUL H: This is Janaki with maybe just a quick question. (Laughter) This action of the tenth family forming, for lack of a better verb, is that an action of what Elias would call a fragmentation between the Taaj and Gaura Clusters or is it unique to, or fragmenting from within the Taaj only?
KRIS: The action is more of a combination between, a mergence and, perhaps a poor choice of words, but an inclusion. Does that make some sense to you?
PAUL H: It makes some sense. The word emergence or emergent is helpful, emergency (laughs) which you mentioned before….
KRIS: This is also related and associated with providing assistance with your “shift of consciousness” because your cluster, your grouping of families together are not the only groupings that are under going their kind of shift. There are other shifts being engaged in other clusters, some very different in action from your own, each cluster incorporating its own perceptions according to the various families and their intent and all of the focuses within those concentrations.
Thus, this also provides into your cluster through the Dulvar family, qualities that are also important to providing a sense of balance and harmony over all, much like a much needed booster.
PAUL H: So it’s very much a part of this shift in consciousness, and just a final follow up question, during this cycle, this billion year blink or cycle that you and Elias have talked about or hinted at, is it the first time that the families have changed from nine to ten? It would seem that the emergence of the tenth family is a revolutionary novelty in the system, so it’s not a common….
KRIS: In this particular cycle, yes. There have also been such actions from the Taaj into others in other kinds of cycles providing balance to others. This is an action that occurs only periodically depending upon the overall intent of a cycle itself, and still in non-linear terms this has occurred, is occurring, will occur, and may not occur altogether [my italics]. For all variations and probabilities are simultaneously explored and this is one action chosen, per say. Does that make some sense to you?
PAUL H: Yes, it makes some sense, it’s a revolutionary development. (Laughter)
MARK: I have a question. Is this bridge to the Gaura a bridge to a specific family in the Gaura or all seventeen hundred in general?
KRIS: To the overall cluster, but through this newly created family. So there is indeed the action of mergence being manifested here as many different intents, both from the Gaura and the Taaj are involved.
MARK: So to define the intent of the Dulvar would be difficult, other than harmony and balance?
KRIS: Generally at this point in your terms of time, indeed. Until such a time as more actions can be perceived. It is in some respects in an embryonic stage.
PAUL H: Does this relate to the “Nine Sisters” of balance and harmony in some way?
KRIS: In some manner of speaking indeed it is pooling upon some of those qualities, but they are also qualities that are exhibited in not only all focus personalities of ALL the types, hominid or otherwise, but also in the families themselves. [September 6, 2004]
For me, the important phrase is: “This is an action that occurs only periodically depending upon the overall intent of a cycle itself, and still in non-linear terms this has occurred, is occurring, will occur, and may not occur altogether.”
It would appear at first blush that Elias is focusing on the “may not occur” aspects of this multidimensional, nonlinear event.
Still, I’m confused as to which aspects of this “event” have manifest in my reality. We need to remind ourselves that these sources exist on a level of reality that includes no-space and no-time, since it’s more aptly a simultaneous-time focus of multiple attentions. So the play and perception of probabilities is vast.
Since there were no follow-up questions, the above session contains general comments which are easily distorted if interpreted in black and white, all or nothing contexts.
Also, notice that Lynda’s original phrasing of the question in the Elias transcript is very general and doesn’t refer to any of the specific concepts included in the Kris excerpt. So the jury is still out. Something is definitely going on, and both Elias/Mary and Kris/Serge have commented but briefly.
Elias’s makes two references that stand out to me:
“… the possibility of another essence family associated with this physical reality was [just] that, a possibility, but it is not.”
“Therefore the temporary consideration of another essence family forming to be moving in conjunction with this shift has been chosen not to occur….”
Elias refers to this tenth family as though it may exist in another probable reality, but not ours. I don’t pretend to fully understand the ramifications of probability theory as discussed by Seth, Kris, and Elias, but realize that there is much more going on than meets my outer and inner eyes.
Still, it would be nice to have something more definitive than Elias is right and Kris is wrong regarding a tenth family of consciousness in relation to the clans (Kris), pools (Elias), or lifeclouds/pyramid gestalts (Seth) concepts. I don’t think it’s that simple.
Now, here’s the second commentary by Elias on the Dulvar concept:
STEVE: Here’s one thing that we wanted to talk about. The entity Kris brought up what he refers to as a tenth essence family, which has become known as Dulvar. And I was just wondering if you had any input on that, you know what’s your take on the idea of a tenth essence family?
ELIAS: I have addressed to this previously.
STEVE: OK. I guess the transcripts haven’t gotten released yet.
ELIAS: No, and I shall express to you a reiteration of that, but that information has been also offered to the individual that requested it, which is the individual [Serge Grandbois] that engages that energy exchange with Kris. But, as I have expressed to him, this information is not incorrect, but was a POTENTIAL, but has not been chosen to be expressed in association with your physical dimension, for it is unnecessary.
And in association with movement of this shift in consciousness collectively the consciousness of all of the essences that participate with this physical dimension and reality, which also involves all of you, have chosen NOT to be generating an additional essence family, as it is unnecessary and as all of you are widening your awareness in conjunction with this shift in consciousness, you are also in increments allowing yourselves to draw upon different aspects that you each incorporate associated with Dream Walkers, and therefore that has been deemed as more efficient and allowing for a similar expression as would be with an additional essence family.
Also, in recognition that you are not creating utopia within your physical reality, and that that is not the point of this shift in consciousness, that also, (slowly) does not lend to the formation of an additional essence family. There is no necessity for that manifestation or that collection, and therefore it has been chosen not to be generating that collection.
STEVE: When was this choice made?
ELIAS: It was never actually formed.
STEVE: I see.
ELIAS: But, there was a potential or what you would term to be a consideration, but was chosen not to be generated as a probability in association with this particular dimension.
STEVE: So we’re talking about choices made when this dimension was being designed?
ELIAS: Not necessarily, in actuality much more recently in conjunction with the onset of this shift in consciousness.
STEVE: Oh, interesting. So, then, why was it phrased by Kris as though the choice was already made, or was that just a misinterpretation on our part?
ELIAS: That is a possibility. (1) As I stated previously, and shall do again, I am not disputing the information that has been offered, I am merely qualifying and explaining what has been chosen and what has not been chosen.
STEVE: Hmmn. OK.
ELIAS: There has been a potential, but was not actualized.
STEVE: I see. OK. [No Number Given, November 13, 2004]
Comments:
(1) Notice that when Kris originally delivered this material, he stated, “This is an action that occurs only periodically depending upon the overall intent of a [billion year] cycle itself, and still in non-linear terms this has occurred, is occurring, will occur, and may not occur altogether.” Also, notice that Elias has no objective awareness of this statement and can’t comment on it objectively.
Elias also reinforces that he is not disputing the information offered by Kris, but clarifying as best he can from his perspective. This would have been the perfect opportunity for Elias to call Kris a fake, or heretic, or marginalize his material in some way, and yet, he is clearly cooperating.
The same with Kris, particularly given Kris’ comments the November 15, 2004 group session in which he acknowledged that he is “working in cahoots” with Elias in a very humorous fashion.
The brief mention by Elias of a Dream Walker connection is interesting. They are aspects of essence that, as a rule of thumb, do not manifest physically, but are deeply involved in the designs within the blueprints found in framework 2 and elsewhere. So it will be interesting to see how the Dream Walkers and Dulvar are connected in future material.
It will also be interesting to see if Kris continues to offer Dulvar intents in upcoming sessions. He also presented a color for Dulvar, rich teal, which falls between green and blue, Ilda and Sumari, and doesn’t contradict any of the colors offered by Elias.
Finally, the more effort that is made to cross-check these sources, the more their stories are going to change. And logic and reason will only take us so far on these explorations. At some point we have to go within and directly experience these concepts.
2Seth introduced the concept of sleepwalkers in Dreams, “Evolution,” and Value Fulfillment, Vol. 1 (1986) in sessions 888 and 892. The sleepwalkers are part of what I call his “conscious creation myth” – his story of the origins of our multiverse and causal Consciousness “before the beginning.”
Elias has also expanded upon this concept, but uses the term “Dream Walkers.” In general, these are foundational aspects of essence that are intimately involved in the creation of our multiverse, including our planet, and all its life forms. For more information from Elias, see Dream Walkers; an overview:
http://www.eliasforum.org/digests/Dream_Walkers.html
3See endnote 1 for Elias’ reference to Dream Walkers in relation to Kris’ Dulvar family of consciousness.
4This was Jeanette’s first Kris session, and like many, it takes time to get used to his accent and his jargon – the customized words he uses to communicate metaphysical ideas.
5The enneagram is an ancient, nine-sided diagram, which was first introduced into the West by George I. Gurdjieff (1866-1949). Gurdjieff was a man of Armenian and Greek ancestry who studied the mystic, Sufi teachings throughout the Mid-East in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. He brought a version of these teachings back to Tiflis, Russia with the blessing of his teachers, just before the First World War broke out. His intent was to share this flavor of Eastern thinking and perception with the West. He went on to create various learning “centres” throughout Europe and had many influential students.
In recent times, the enneagram has come to be known as a diagram representing nine basics personality types. Hence the word, enneagram, derived from “ennea” meaning “nine” and “grammos” meaning “diagram.” The enneagram is also used as a tool for noticing self – self-awareness, self-remembering, and cultivation of spiritual knowledge.
The Myers-Briggs System is a personality-typing tool based upon well-known research by psychologists Carl Jung, Katharine C. Briggs, and Isabel Briggs Myers.
Carl Jung first developed the theory that individuals each had a psychological type. He believed that there were two basic kinds of “functions” which humans used in their lives: how we take in information (“perceive” things), and how we make decisions. He believed that within these two categories there were two opposite ways of functioning – our senses or our intuition. We make decisions based on objective logic or subjective feelings. Jung believed that we all use these four functions in our lives, but that we each use the different functions with varying degrees of success and frequency. He believed that it is possible to identify an order of preference for these functions within any individual.
Today, personality typing is a tool with many uses. It’s used in the areas of personal growth and self-development; for example, career guidance, managing employees, inter-personal relationships, education, and counseling.
6For more information on the essence of Rose and Elias’ messiah mythos, see the nine children of the essence of Rose:
http://www.eliasforum.org/digests/Rose_children.html
7See endnote 1 for Elias’ reference to Dream Walkers in relation to Kris’ Dulvar family of consciousness.
8Kris introduced the clans/clusters of consciousness in a group session on March 22, 2004. In the context of this new material, he stated that his own awareness consists of sixteen or so “essence bodies.” Keep in mind that the use of the word “body” is not ontologically the same as a human body, but more like the nested “bodies” of the Buddhist kayas and “sheaths” of the Hindu koshas.
Put another way, it’s as if Kris is attempting to point out that his awareness consists of a complex “chord” of personality tones that extends into a much wider awareness than what we may conceive of as ourselves as “essence.”
9The following is an overview of Kris’ clans/clusters of consciousness presented to date:
1. NEBU = 3-5 core families, but surges up to 100 (!) It’s always changing, not static like our clan (#5)
2. DANTANNAMU = @100,000 families (!!!) WAY BEYOND anything we know.
3. AMOOL = nonphysical (no essence families? Not clear.)
4. MYR = 12 families
5. TAAJ = 10 families (our multiverse, Seth and Elias’ same nine, plus Dulvar, not a subfamily, but an emergent tenth family)
Kris’ “aligning with” in TAAJ: 1. SUMAFI (primary), 2. SUMARI (secondary), 3. MILUMET (tertiary).
6. ULAL = 27 families
7. ANARRUU = @15 families, overall purpose = to serve as “gardeners, sending “seeds” that bring forth unity, and help focuses recognize the greater scheme, consciousness into matter, very nurturing action.
10. GAURA = 1,700 families, give or take.
This is Kris’ source cluster or “home.” Kris’ essence root (“belonging to”) in GAURA: 1. HARDOOR (primary), 2. UMILL (secondary), 3. ZETEER (tertiary).
12. NEERAN = 12 families (Watchers, observers)
15. KUUMARA = “very few” families (Revitalizers)
Coinkidinkily, the clans/clusters are ontologically the same as Seth’s pyramid energy gestalts:
http://www.newworldview.com/library/Helfrich_P_Who_is_the_You_in_YCYOR_1.html#Pyramid_Energy_Gestalts
They are also ontologically the same as Elias’ pools of consciousness:
http://www.eliasforum.org/digests/pools.html
10The Quadrants of Consciousness – an outline Kris’ cosmology – were delivered in a group session on October 04, 2004. The quadrants integrate differentiation/nondifferentiation, dual/nondual, dvaita/advaita, turiyatita/turiya, but also point out the bardo or in-between states and stages within all apparent dual/nondual be-ing/Be-ing. In other words, Kris outlined a “map” of what we can call nondual conscious creation, where the spectrum of consciousness extends from physical to Nonphysical Source. Note that both Seth and Elias have outlined the same spectrum, but have never (to date) included a “concrete” map like the quadrants.
Also, take the following with a judicious grain of salt since that “the map is never the territory.”
Quadrant 1 = all experience pertaining to perception of all physical bodies/focus personalities = physical/inner senses, and 14 Gateways. Tools to manipulate energy and reality. Physical aspects of the Sisters, or Dakinis.
Quadrant 2 = all necessary “tools and materials” pertaining to essence. All interactions within essence. All frameworks of consciousness/Regional Areas/Levels apply here. Nonphysical aspects of the Sisters, or Dakinis.
Q2 fuels all constructions in Q1.
Quadrant 3 = all “materials” pertaining to “multidimensional structures” = periphery pertaining to clusters/clans of consciousness. A VAST area. . Nonphysical aspects of the Sisters, or Dakinis. Q3 fuels all Q2 constructions.
Quadrant 4 = “Words may fail to describe here.” (But he’ll try anyway
Core Energy, Brahmajyoti, “Clear Light,” Svaha, Bardo (intermittent/intermediate/in-between). Netjer originate here. Q4 fuels all Q3 constructions.
11Markus’ essence name, according to Kris, is indeed Laurimar.
12Kris has given both Taaj and Gaura cluster names for his essence families. The three “aligning with” are aspects of Taaj – Sumafi, Sumari, and Milumet. While the three “belonging to” are aspects within Gaura: Hardoor, Umill, and Zeteer.
See endnote 8 for more info on clans/clusters.
13Paul T. refers to a lifetime that he shares with Kris in ancient China in which he had a beard and Kris would often chide him for getting rice stuck in it, and they would play checkers and shoot the breeze.
14In this session, Kris offered my families of consciousness “six-pack” as follows:
Belonging to: 1. Zuli, 2. Gramada, 3. Sumafi.
Aligning with: 1. Sumafi, 2. Milumet, 3. Sumari.
For any “conspiracy buffs” paying attention, I had asked Kris for my “belonging to” info on June 21, 2004:
PAUL: “What might be helpful is that, from your perspective, what would Janaki’s [Kris' essence name for me] relative ‘belonging to’ be in your terms?”
KRIS: “In our perspective, primary ‘belonging to’ would be Milumet, secondary Gramada, tertiary we would have to provide a blend between Sumafi/Sumari again.”
Belonging to: 1. Milumet, 2. Gramada, 3. Sumafi/Sumari.
I didn’t ask for my “aligning with” at that time because the primary, secondary, tertiary aspects were so new to me. Interestingly, they now seem set in my awareness, and I believe pave the wave for further clan/cluster expansion of the map.
However, it would seem that my primary “belonging to” has changed from Milumet to Zuli during the past five months, though my secondary remains Gramada, and my tertiary shifted slightly from a Sumafi/Sumari blend to Sumafi.
What does this mean? It is it a contraction, a mistake? Or is it intentional? I believe that it’s intentional to show the ever-changing nature of all manifest, dualistic consciousness and nonphysical source. The change of my primary “belonging to” would seem to be significant, but how will Kris explain that? The jury is still out on that one.
In the mean time, there is an Elias session titled “Addressing to Contradictions” in which Vicki Pendley asked Elias about three specific sets of contradictions in his material, one of which related to him offering different readings of people’s “belonging to” and “aligning with.” Elias answer is lengthy, subtle, and complex, but he offers insights into his own limitations, and his perception, and how that affects what gets translated into our very linear language, which isn’t designed to adequately express these subtle concepts.
The following is a post to the Kris Chronicles Discussion Forum on NewWorldView from December 02, 2004, just a couple of days after this session occurred as I was trying to reconcile these seeming contradictions:
“Coinkidinkily, yesterday I continue my Elias DVD archiving and plop in session 333, where I left off before the Thanksgiving holiday, and voila! Here’s Elias and good ole Vic exploring the exact same issue, seeming contradictions. Elias offered quite a riff, over an hour and forty minutes long, on Aspects theory that tied it all together.
“So it relates to the seeming disparities of Kris offering different primary ‘belonging to’ in June and last Monday, as well as the Dulvar, as well as many other discrepancies.
“I recall when I read this six years ago, I didn’t fully understand it. It was as if it was a 1/2-step ahead of my then understanding and created some cognitive dissonance. But then, that is usually a sign of growing pains as new material and experience are assimilated.
“Now, Vic had three contradictions that really bothered the shit out of her, 1. an essence name spelling BISELL and BISTELL, 2. Elias reading Forrest Landry, Mary’s boyfriend for several months in the Spring of 1998, as Sumafi/Sumafi, but Patel, channeled by our neighbor Ron Churchman, read him as Vold/Vold. And for good measure there’s a Sumari/Vold in there somewhere too, and 3. Elias confusing acceptance 101 (self) and 102 (others).
“Poor Vic didn’t like her Elias making mistakes. Hell, we ALL project perfection not only on these ‘bridge personalities,’ but our partners, teachers, bosses, leaders, etc. And they’re ALL fallible. That’s the simple truth.
“Highlights include the clear statement that ALL energy exchanges are subject to distortion, so even claims of least distortion are not free of mistakes or to ever be considered an infallible source, like the Pope in Rome. I also liked the fire analogy that explains how these ghosts ‘read’ our energy and translate it through many layers of consciousness into the calcified molds of our linear languages. As such they are only snapshots, and subject to the vicissitudes of eternal becoming.
For the details, see session 333, October 19, 1998. It takes place on Mary Ennis’ front porch during a thunderstorm. The wind is wild, Mary’s hair is blowing, and the sound of traffic occasionally interrupts things.
Since this session is titled “United by the Bonds of Consciousness,” it’s apt that the themes of “unity in diversity” and “addressing to contractions” work together in complementary ways that we’re just beginning to understand. As this material is still developing, I’d like to close with two recent excerpts from the group session on January 17, 2005 in which further insights to the nature of the Dulvar family were provided:
SHARON: “The essence family Dulvar, is that equivalent to a Tumold belonging separate from a Tumold alignment [according to Elias], and does that particular family deal with issues of death and dying?”
KRIS: “Now you are hopefully aware that in some circles this tenth Dulvar family is considered questionable. Its specific intent may align with Tumold but is not specifically 100% in line with Tumold; it has variations on the theme, specifically with balance and harmony. There are correlations but it is still different. And as Elias has suggested, this specific tenth family is not specifically manifest in the same manner as the other nine are. [My italics] So it has a unique quality that allows it to stand somewhat apart only in that it can also interact with all the other intents in a non-interfering manner. (Humorously) It is part of the contract’s small print.
“So we hope this helps you.”
SHARON: “Yes it does. Thank you.”
(Note from break at 8:33 PM.)
“… Mark pointed out that the intent of the Tumold was to return things to their original state whereas the intent of the Dulvar was to bring about a state of Harmony and Balance. The ‘original’ state is NOT necessarily one that has Harmony and Balance.”
Wide Open Heart
November 22, 2004
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois
Transcribed by Alex (Darrolid)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on November 22, 2004
© Copyright 2005 Avion Rising Inc.
Role Call: Serge (Joseph), John (Sohars), Myrna (Shara-Leene) and Alex (Darrolid).
Session Begins at 8:12pm
KRIS: Now, we are glad that you have developed a good sense of humor. As in all of the things in life, a good sense of humor is truly the best medicine you can take and have as an antidote to your disbelief in your abilities to create for yourselves a reality, a journey that reflects those good, innate, joyous psychologies of yours.
And in case you forget momentarily and think that your life is as a burden heaped upon your shoulders, remind yourselves that not only are you on a journey but you, yourselves, are a journey. You are the journey of self discovery and the more you explore your surroundings both subjective and objective you discover and come to the realization that for all intents and purposes, the sacred and the blessed that you seek is to be found in the depths of your belly when you have a good laugh, especially at yourselves.
Now, perhaps if the opportunity arises this evening, we will delve into some small practices. But in the meantime, feel free to ask some questions.
JOHN: Okay. I’m going to ask a question. It’s fair to say as an essence, I have a particular, unique intention for this focus. I wondered if you could give me some insight into what the intent of this focus is for me.
KRIS: We believe that this is not a question that can be answered in one or two words, such as your intent is joy, your intent is discovery. We would rather leave that to others. However, just as you never do one particular thing with one specific goal but rather do many things and entertain many possibilities simultaneously, so do you have many intentions both as a focal personality and as essence. And since essence is another form that you pay attention to, there could very well be many different intentions available to you. Each focal personality stemming from one, two, three or many other essence forms will each have – we are looking for a specific word – interlaced intentions. Such explorations can become complex. Suffice it to say that you have for the longest time, perhaps as far back as you can remember sought to find understanding and knowledge from various perspectives, never specifically from one singular source. You would, first of all, have made a terrible attempt at any one religion.
The second thing, you also simultaneously pay attention to many details, both in everyday living affairs and in philosophical contemplations that many others would be completely blinded to. You have developed a knack for intuiting truths, wisdom that helps you understand where you are. Also, you actually display a joy at discovering information, material, knowledge, especially so when it is quite possibly something you have read or heard before but now you are able to put it in the context of your living experience. You have many focal personalities that run the gamut especially on philosophical, religious and spiritual explorations and themes and yet somehow or other you can both sense this and are able to more or less step aside. Does that make sense to you?
JOHN: Yeah, that resonates very well.
KRIS: Thus, how can one or two words be used to describe as an intent, what an essence self is seeking from the experiences that it literally generates toward those ends? This is not to say we have drummed this up to get away from answering the question but we did want to point this out to help you direct your own attentions into those specific fields and have you recognize yet additional information that comes from those fields.
You have an ability and this is directly related to as watered down an expression of intention as possible but you have an ability to put words together to express thoughts that even others would never have thought to put that way. So, your specific intent is along those very lines.
JOHN: I got ya.
KRIS: So, how that can be put into one or two words is a bit difficult.
JOHN: I think you’ve done masterfully.
KRIS: Now, we would additionally like to point out that, of course not that you should but that you would find it both highly creative and fulfilling to get to writing.
JOHN: Okay, great.
KRIS: Because your perspectives can assist others.
JOHN: That’s great, Kris. Thank you very much.
KRIS: Not that we wanted to divulge to the whole world some of your psychological profile (laughter) but suffice it to say that this makes you a highly interesting individual and there is much more to you than meets than eye.
ALEX: There is much more to all of us than meets the eye.
KRIS: Indubitably.
JOHN: Okay. I’m going to let somebody else ask a question.
ALEX: I have a question. A while back you gave me Darrolid’s belonging to, primary secondary and tertiary. I didn’t understand the difference between belonging to and aligning with at that time and I don’t know what myself – my focal personality – aligns with. Can you tell me that? I can go over the primary, secondary and tertiary.
KRIS: Indeed.
ALEX: For Darrolid, primary is Milumet, secondary is Sumari and tertiary is Tumold.
KRIS: Now, our perception and this will bring another chapter into our most scandalous use of the families of consciousness…
ALEX: Oh, here we go…
KRIS: But, you have a surefootedness in both Gramada and Ilda. We believe you know where to look that up.
ALEX: Yes.
KRIS: And we will be doubly scandalous and suggest that Dulvar is something that you align with at least in conceptualization.
ALEX: Okay, so Gramada and Ilda would be primary and secondary?
KRIS: Indeed.
ALEX: And for the tertiary, Dulvar.
KRIS: Since it is a hot issue in certain circles.
ALEX: I am taking a course in February and it’s called Frequencies of Brilliance. It’s a modality of healing and it was channeled forth by this woman called Christine Day. Basically, it’s working with the Plaedians, which I asked you about a long time ago but actually it’s about working with the fourth and fifth dimension and actually changing DNA. She does brain work…
KRIS: You want to grow more arms and heads (chuckles) because you want to leave some behind? Now, this again is a big-ticket sale ….but specifically speaking it is also fancy footing jargon.
ALEX: Okay, is it worth me doing it?
KRIS: You cannot change your specific DNA. You can, however, alter, modify, change, neutralize and expand your use of belief structures. They are tools. Beliefs are not psychological and psychic prisons to which you are encased. They are not yokes nor are they psychological albatross. They are the very building block of both your lives and physical reality but by utilizing proper understanding of belief structures and entire belief paradigms, you are able to give yourself an entirely different perspective of physical reality, your physical life. As to actually, physically changing your DNA, that is acceptable in metaphysical circles where no questions are ever asked. Do you follow?
ALEX: I think so…
KRIS: Now, if such an individual claims to exchange their physical DNA where it is medically and scientifically tested before and after and actual concrete evidence of a complete changeover in DNA molecular structure is evident, then we will revisit…
ALEX: But you’re telling me that it’s not possible.
KRIS: It is not possible.
ALEX: Well, I know – maybe it’s just a restructuring then because I know that she works with particular energy centers in the body – and we’re not talking chakras – but what she calls doorways and they are documenting the work that she’s doing. She is healing people. She goes around the world doing this. She works with children especially, children who have exhausted everything medically. She has been able to do things for them.
KRIS: She is allowing those individuals to tap into their own belief structures. Even of a child, the belief structure is a mess. You are not born with a blank slate. So those children and those adults are not necessarily being healed as much as this is how the individual is able to give himself or herself permission to be well again. And that so called healer represents the optimum opportunity to facilitate that.
ALEX: She basically raises the frequency level so they basically heal themselves.
KRIS: Indeed. It gives the individual the opportunity to tap into their own reservoirs of wellness and thereby alter those belief structures they use to make themselves ill in the first place.
ALEX: We were just talking about how Sohars (John) was saying how he felt he was a different person…
KRIS: Indeed. His belief structures have, somehow or other, been reorganized. He has moved the mental furniture and now things are more Feng Shui in his environment. (Huge chuckles…especially from Sohars). So, you are always dealing with belief structures, specifically in terms of the ego construction.
Now, if an individual has no wish to alter their present living conditions, then that that person you refer to would not be able to accomplish anything whatsoever. Those cases do not appear, only the successes appear.
ALEX: Is this worth me taking?
KRIS: We do not believe so. However, we also ask that you do not take our word for it. Look deeper, ask more questions.
ALEX: Ask myself and meditate on it more?
KRIS: Ask more questions both of yourself and of the ones giving the course. Where is the evidence that DNA has actually been changed?
ALEX: Where should I focus my energy in applying the same question Sohars did? Where should I focus my energy…obviously, I’m a bit scattered! (laughing)
KRIS: We will not touch that with a ten foot pole! (more laughter)
Now, Sohars has been kind to himself and has also invited the optimum situation to come to him. He has, as a result, benefited from his patience. You are seeking enlightenment, you are seeking the means by which you can access your own self realizations and as we hinted at, at the beginning, give yourself a small bit of patience and you too will one day laugh at how you have gone hither and tither like a bee sampling pollen from one flower to another only to realize that the enlightenment you sought was already within you. That the journeys you wish to go on was your own self. Does that make sense to you?
ALEX: It does but I don’t know how to do that.
KRIS: It is simple. You may ask Sohars. This is one of the most difficult things to do in a society that promotes drive-thru enlightenment.
ALEX: That’s well put.
KRIS: Regardless of the instant knowledge gurus that literally prostitute themselves to the highest bidder. There is only way to accomplish this. That is to be kind and patient with yourself.
ALEX: So, all the meditations that I’m doing…
KRIS: These are all helpful. They are meant to direct your attention there into yourself. There is a legend or a myth that long ago the Gods got together and were very concerned that one day mankind would attain enlightenment and realize that the Gods were themselves. So, the Gods got together in a Godly Summit (chuckles) without security guards from the Chilean Embassy. They conspired and they said “We have to hide this knowledge.” And one said, “Let us hide it in the Heavens.” And the others said, “But one day man will fly and reach the Heavens and find it.” Then another said, “Let us hide it in the mountains.” And they said, “But one day man will dig into the mountains and surely will find it.” And another said, “Let us hide it in the depths of the oceans.” And they said, “But one day man will learn to go to the depths of the oceans and will find it.” And then another said, “There is a place we can hide this knowledge where mankind will never think to look. We will hide it within man himself.” And they all agreed this was a good plan but there was one God, silent throughout this ordeal who was wise beyond compare and thus usually ignored by the other Gods. This silent wise being decided that he would disperse himself throughout the Universe and He would become the small silent inner voice within mankind. So that in the stillness of man’s mind, there would be a small whisper that would say, “Look here and you will find your Godhood.”
ALEX: Very nice story.
KRIS: Indeed. Now, if you are able to be patient with yourself and continue what you already do, you will most certainly achieve what you want. We are not making a fairy tale. Throughout history, as you understand it, all of the enlightened beings, attained enlightenment not by running here and there to the latest seminars but actually by retreating from those very things. They learned to pay attention to the wisdom within their being. They, in turn, did not become instant infomercial successes in promoting their hype but have, often, kept their mouths shut and instead of broadcasting their enlightenment, they became what in Sanskrit is called Acharia. One who shows by example. It is no longer a matter of ‘do what I say’ but ‘do what I do.’ And for too long your instant enlightenment gurus always say ‘do what I say’ and I say ‘bye, bye, bye.’ Do you understand?
ALEX: Yes.
KRIS: Then you will see that there is a certain wisdom in our words.
ALEX: I do some of that already knowing it or not, I do do some of that. I just want to know where to go next. I want to take it somewhere. And I know, enjoy the journey, enjoy being…
KRIS: Indeed…
ALEX: But I still would like to know where to take it next because I know I’m at…I have done a lot of work…
KRIS: Indeed. Very assuredly, you do not put any more nails in your 2X4 (referring to earlier sessions and conversations that I am very hard on myself and I would constantly hit myself over the head with a 2X4 – metaphorically speaking, of course!).
ALEX: (Laughter) I’m better at that. But where do I take it next?
KRIS: Indeed. Now, possibly the very best thing you can offer yourself is to ask self where and what can I offer myself to continue this journey of self discovery? Show me a sign. Show me where I can turn and I will see how it fits into my life.
ALEX: Okay. I’m not even remembering my dreams anymore. I’m having a really hard time doing that.
KRIS: That you also do not need to worry about.
ALEX: Really? …
KRIS: Indeed…
ALEX: ‘Cause I’ve been beating myself up over that one.
KRIS: Indeed. Now, you are entirely free to beat yourself up as much as you want. (laughter) Far be it from us to say to anyone that you can only beat yourself up so much!
ALEX: I’m officially handing over that 2X4 piece over to you (speaking to KRIS). (laughter)
KRIS: Be careful! (more laughter)
ALEX: Okay, so I don’t have to worry about that?
KRIS: Indeed not. It is quite common to remember dreams for a good period of time and then to have certain difficulties. It is not a reflection that you are suddenly inept in any way, shape or form. Instead, you may be reaching out to deeper layers of selfhood of essence. And this takes some time for the signals to be recognized and played on your inner television set. Do you follow?
ALEX: Yes I do.
KRIS: Indeed. Otherwise, it does not become fun but fanaticism in the long run.
ALEX: Yeah, it gets very frustrating because I feel like I’m taking a step backwards. I used to remember them and they were so good and now, it’s like nowhere but it’s just that I’ve reached a plateau and I’ll just have to wait and see.
KRIS: Indeed.
ALEX: Okay well I will try to be patient. I will do that…thank you!
KRIS: And do not worry. We will dispose of the 2X4! We have much bigger things to use. (More laughter) Now, what is the time?
ALEX: It is 8:48pm.
KRIS: Indeed. Then we’ll take a small break and enjoy the moment.
Session breaks at 8:48pm.
Session resumes at 8:56pm.
KRIS: Another way of perceiving this is to understand that you are not your thoughts, nor your thoughts about yourself. You are not your emotions and you are not your life. All of these are indications. They alert you to where you are at in relationship to yourself. They help you understand and see what kind of beliefs, conditions that you are juggling at this juncture of time and space so you can judge whether or not you wish to continue this particular journey or create another, by pulling the switch to activate – bring to you and activate – other convictions than the ones you now entertain, which bring out specific thoughts towards yourself, specific feelings and emotions towards yourself, others, etc. Specific events, conditions and circumstances of your life, which speak about where you’re at belief wise. Do you understand?
ALEX: I do and you know, I understand this but I always seem to revert back. It’s like unless I’m focusing on it all the, all the, all the time, I seem to go back again and I revert back.
KRIS: Usually individuals may very well make some good headway and then take a step or two backwards needing time to reflect. And then they will continue.
ALEX: So it could be just a break.
KRIS: Indeed. So, do not get overly militant with yourself.
ALEX: You just want to progress so fast.
KRIS: You always progress at a rate so to speak that you can deal with. You will never go too fast or too slow. You are always ready for any event and condition you bring into your focus.
ALEX: I see people that are ahead of me and I think “I want to do that or I want to be that” so I kind of try to push myself along.
KRIS: That is comparing. That is also judging that your own existence must somehow or other be inferior because they appear to be superior. Therefore if one or the other is more advanced then surely you must be less.
ALEX: That’s ego.
KRIS: Entirely. So, learn only to observe that thought process as if it is occurring to someone else. As if you are somehow or other on THIS side of the window looking at and listening to someone who may see someone else and think “Obviously, they are more advanced than I am. Therefore, I am not.” And then put on your best face and go and give her a talk. Do you understand?
ALEX: Yes.
KRIS: This is a matter of perspective. You were here last week (referring to last week’s session on Practice of Perspectives) unless you were somewhere else. Use the simple exercises we provided and tailor it to your situation. And you will see that you are neither less advanced or more advanced. You are at where you need to be at this time and space. It is a well-known fact that even though someone may have all the walls in their office covered with certificates, degrees and PhDs, the moment they open their mouths to speak, they are the most jerk-like and despicable human being. And there are individuals who do not have one single certificate and the moment they open their mouths to speak you know, without a doubt, that you are in the presence of living wisdom. Do you understand?
ALEX: Yes, I do.
KRIS: It is a matter of simply stepping back.
ALEX: And not judging.
KRIS: Especially yourself because when you judge someone to be more advanced than you, you are automatically judging yourself to be less and that is not the issue. It is a reflection of your fear that you are incapable and this is not true. You are bright, you are intelligent, you are perceptive, you can size someone up in 2 seconds but as far as you are concerned, you will second guess yourself to the nth degree and not give yourself due credit. If you wish we can send you some postcards but you will have to learn how to catch them.
ALEX: Okay! How do I look for them?
KRIS: Look for them in your dreams.
ALEX: Will I remember my dreams now?
KRIS: That is up to you.
ALEX: Okay, I will. Thank you for the challenge.
KRIS: Give yourself three days. Then ask yourself, ask your dream self to go and look for the cards we are sending you, ‘Postcards from the edge of the Universe.’ (laughter) Now there is a great movie there! (more laughter) And it does not involve Carrie Fisher or Buzz Lightyear! (laughter)
ALEX: Okay, I will definitely do that, in three days time?
KRIS: In three days time and you best be there.
ALEX: I’ll show up.
KRIS: Indeed. Anticipate.
ALEX: That’s all I’m going to be thinking about now. You know that.
JOHN: That’s judging.
ALEX: I know, I know. Okay, no judging. I’ll expect it but I don’t judge it. Right. Okay. Thank you. That sounds excellent.
KRIS: And even if you do not catch a postcard in three days time, do not think it is now the end of the world.
ALEX: (laughter) See, you’re already setting me up!
KRIS: You walked right into that one! (laughter) Perhaps it will happen on the fourth day. Give your self ample time to have fun.
ALEX: Okay! Wow, that’s going to be great!
KRIS: Other questions, perhaps?
MYRNA: I’ve got two. One, I would like to… my intention as an essence and also, I’m aware that I’ve been feeling very weepy for several weeks now, very nauseous. My blood pressure is up and I’m tired. I’m also scared thinking is this leading to a stroke? I don’t think it is but there is a belief system operating here and I’d like to know what it is. What my intuition tells me is that I’m at a fork in the road and it’s about trust. Not too unlike you Alex, I want to catapult myself into “okay just trust!”
KRIS: But it is never quite that simple, is it?
MYRNA: No, it is not.
KRIS: It is much easier to think it is nothing but a matter of trust. Therefore, if I do not trust, I am not trustworthy. Correct? That is a natural progression for that kind of thought.
MYRNA: No, I’m … perhaps. Where I go is disappointment. I have a sense of myself as a ‘wide open heart’ and in order for me to get there, I need a relationship with spirit. That certainly has moved and progressed but I’m not there yet. I’m scared. I wonder if I’ve got the time and the trust to experience myself as a wide open heart. I would like to know if I have that time?
KRIS: You would have to be very specific and explain to yourself specifically what do you mean by ‘wide open heart?’
MYRNA: Well, what comes up immediately is two things, lack of judgment, I want to drop the judgment. Secondly, I think more importantly, I’m feeling the power that I know deep in myself that I have the power to create whatever I want. I get so far, I have this awesome sense of power and then I go into this disbelief.
KRIS: You have many different belief structures that you are holding onto and they are obviously in conflict. There is a need for congruency overall. Most specifically, you have mentioned this more than once about judging. You want to stop judging. You want to end judging. Do you agree?
MYRNA: Yes.
KRIS: When an individual gets onto that track then they must do one thing alone in their attempt to stop judging and judgment. They must look for it in every mental nook and cranny imaginable so that they can stop it, which eventually ends up eating huge amounts of resources because the task is futile. There is a saying from one of your television shows, “Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.” (chuckles) And that is one of those cases. The only way you will stop judgment and judging self, because whenever you judge someone you are judging yourself, the only way is to actually stop it. Abandon the worry about judging. So you think you do not look so pretty when you wake up. So you think that you have flaws. As we have explained a few moments ago you are not your thoughts. You are not your thoughts about yourself. You are not your emotions and you are not your life. These are expressions that have pinpointed what kinds of beliefs or convictions you are using to create your existence. Do you follow? And the more you focus on the judgment thing, the more you will drop your threads. Our suggestion to you is to give yourself permission to not care about judging at all. Not one minute. You can judge yourself all if you want. You can judge the whole Universe all of what you want and it will not make any difference but you will get tired of it. Do you follow?
MYRNA: I’m trying to.
KRIS: In other words, whether you catch yourself red-handed in the cookie jar of judgment or not, it makes no difference. Eat the cookie. (Huge laughter)
MYRNA: Whatever that means.
KRIS: It means that you think that your thoughts are judgmental so you judge yourself for having judgmental thoughts. And that brings you into the hamster wheel of hell (chuckles) because it is difficult to get out of that wheel. And the faster you go the more you get nowhere. Just like the hamster. That has been occurring already. So a suggestion is if you find yourself judging, shrug your shoulders and walk away. Who cares? Will it make you less spiritual? Will it make you less likeable?
MYRNA: No, God damn it. Abraham tells me I’m going to draw unto myself – this is the hamster wheel here …
KRIS: Indeed.
MYRNA: …I’m going to draw unto myself all that negative energy because my vibrational mix or match is not where it should be. Oops…bad thought! Oh dear….Maybe that’s why I’m so tired.
KRIS: You are spending large amounts of energy. So, our suggestion is simply put that whole process on hold and if you can even be uncaring about it. It will not make you a less spiritual individual. It will not make you a less lovable individual but it may help you recognize that you are and always will be a lovable individual. Your open heart has always been there. You are always at the place where you need to be. Right now you are here allowing us to tell you that you can momentarily put all of those processes on thoughts – in fact, pretend that you hold in your hand the ultimate remote (chuckles) – the one that can even put your own thought process on pause.
MYRNA: There’s a problem with that.
KRIS: You don’t know how?
MYRNA: (laughter) I don’t know what to do with my life if I do that.
KRIS: Aaah. Aha. That is what frightens you!
MYRNA: Absolutely. I do not know what to do with my life. I am so lost.
KRIS: But you do! Otherwise, you would not have ventured so far.
MYRNA: I don’t know what to do.
KRIS: That is something you tell yourself. Make it an exercise for one week. Every time you think you smell judgment (sniffs humorously)…like a garbage truck (chuckles) (sniffs some more) (laughter) down the street, put it on pause. Shut the mental window. Do not care about it, only one week and see if that makes any difference. It may initially be a struggle for you.
MYRNA: That part isn’t a struggle. That I can do. That’s not the struggle. I have created a life for myself where I have silence, a lot of silence so that I could find my own voice. I am lost in the silence.
KRIS: It has become very loud.
MYRNA: It has become very loud.
KRIS: For one week, play that game. Who cares whether you have thoughts that even remotely smell of judgment. Let them simply go by like a cloud in the sky. You cannot stop a cloud now can you? Even if you were to grab it, it would still go through your fingers and on its merry way. And simply observe how this makes you feel. As to what you would do with your life, we believe that if you stopped spending so much energy in grasping clouds then you would be able to see what is behind the thought. This may be very cryptic but it is there. You have been asking the Universe to help and assist you but it needs to be given that chance. Does that any sense to you?
MYRNA: Oh, I hear your words, Kris.
KRIS: When the moment comes, perhaps it will make more sense. But you do, like our dear young friend here, do not give yourself much credit and have a tendency to discount yourself very much.
ALEX: We should form a support group!
KRIS: Do NOT call it the Kris Darlings!
ALEX: (Laughter) No!
KRIS: Alright Darling?
ALEX: (More Laughter) I’m not going to put that in the transcript!
KRIS: That is why we said it!
ALEX: (More Laughter – it was so funny!)
KRIS: Now for all intents and purposes, we open with the notion that it would be a most healing thing to maintain and enhance your sense of humor and your love of joy, joyous occasions, joyous opportunities. We are humbly asking you to INVITE, NOT FIGHT, joy so that you can start waltzing once again. Because we do not think that rapping would be so good for you. (chuckles) Do you follow?
MYRNA: Again I hear the words. I understand the words…
KRIS: When you become aware that you are waking up tomorrow morning, make it a point to spend a few moments before you even get out of bed to focus on joy and nothing else for a few moments. As you focus on joy in any way, shape or form that comes to your mind, see it actually spreading throughout your day, into the morning, the afternoon and even the evening. There will be situation and opportunities for you to smile and to feel joyous and happy. Plant the seeds and you will reap what you sow. That is two exercises you can do this week. Then you may go to the bathroom! (chuckles) That way the bladder will be joyous (laughter).
Now, what is the time?
ALEX: It is 9:24pm.
KRIS: Indeed then. We suggest that you make your existence a joyous thing as a reflection of whom and what you are. It only takes a few moments to sow those seeds. So make them the best quality, better and improved brand of joy. Have fun throughout the day discovering where joy is hiding behind every opportunity and corner and how you can make the best of those situations. With that we return you to your joyous and blessed selves. Whether you think they’re not so joyous, we do not care! (Huge laughter) In fact, we do not care that we do not care! (More huge and long laughter)
ALEX: Thank you!
Session ends (or so we thought) at 9:25pm.
We had a group discussion on healing and the Frequencies of Brilliance healing modality that we discussed earlier. I mentioned to the group that I may have not explained myself to Kris very well when I said that it changes DNA. It works with the 4th/5th dimension through the activating of doorways, which is done with the hands either lightly touching the body or slightly above the body. This is the description I got from the website (www.frequenciesofbrilliance.com): Frequencies of Brilliance is a 4th/5th dimensional work. The process is that of activating doorways by lightly touching the body or working just above the body. These doorways are to be found in patterns on the front and back of the body.
These doorways are patterns found in front of and behind the back. Each doorway holds the highest aspect of the human being and is complete in itself. This means that there is a perfect potential to be accessed and activated throughout the doorways in the body. A recollection of yourself, a birthing of remembrance of your highest potential which begins to transmit and awaken through your cells so that you begin to consciously remember and experience the unlimited self. It does not work with the ego mind, rather, through the entire nervous system and brain, and the spiral in the cells and spinal fluid. New areas of the brain begin to function for the first time. You begin to recollect and connect to gifts of YOURSELF.
Physical and emotional healing takes place within the physical and emotional bodies with this process because as you access the divine aspects of you – you as your own healer begin to automatically transform the physical and emotional body.
Sure enough Kris was hovering around and dropped back in.
Session resumes at 9:47pm
KRIS: If you look more closely at that information and material, you will see that her use of words in themselves are a distortion and she is speaking about activating, making available, a different set of convictions to the individual. So the individual would bring her into their life because she is making herself available to it. This has nothing to do with aliens, alien mental technology of any kind. It has in fact in so many words very little to do with the fourth and fifth and sixth dimension but it has to do with the individual embracing essence, which is remembrance. Understanding that they indeed are the masters of their destiny, they are indeed the creators of their lives and to make as best use of the knowledge within their present circumstances. As far as essence is concerned, there is no specific DNA per se. The physical DNA that you each have at your cellular, molecular structure is the physical representation of those belief constructions that you use throughout your life based on the principals that you agreed upon prior to your birth. Specific parents and bloodlines give you the opportunity to explore reality from a unique vantage point. That includes all of the skeletons in the closet that are potentially available to you as well as all of the other potentials that can be built upon so you as we said do not come into the world with a blank slate. You come with a huge bag a great big handbag out of which magically you pull out realities endlessly and you literally throw them out before you so that you can step into those constructions as it reflects the ever changing psychological landscape within you that is then manifest before you. You have two fields of events. You have the inner field of events and the outer field of events as we have explained before. And what goes on in the inner field of events you take and then you magically manifest it before you. It is not even manifest for you. You manifest it. You have 100% control whether you acquiesce to that acknowledgement or not is irrelevant. You always have complete mastery of your situation.
ALEX: Why is it, Kris, that some people seemingly, easily accomplish things and other people struggle yet their belief system – they’ll dream about becoming rich or doing certain things – and it’s a struggle all the way for the and yet other people – bang, bang, bang – it just happens.
KRIS: Why do you think that is?
ALEX: I think that maybe there is something on a level that they are not aware of, a subconscious level that prevents …
KRIS: They are denying themselves what they hope. They may desire riches but they may also belief that there is some kind of integrity to be had, in one form or another, in being somewhat a pauper. Do you understand?
ALEX: Yes, I understand that.
KRIS: So regardless of all of their dreams and their conscious thoughts, it is not their conscious thoughts that are going to create the situation. As Joseph has hinted before, if that were the case, you would all be in some difficult situations.
ALEX: So, is that why then it would appear that all these so called really, really successful people are people that seem to be heartless because they seem to not care, they seem to lack integrity so that lacking integrity has been beneficial …
KRIS: But who says they lack integrity?
ALEX: I guess it’s a belief system.
KRIS: An innate belief. They have accepted the belief that there is no reason why they cannot be rich. They believe in that and if they change their belief, then they can become poor overnight and that does happen as easily as the street person can find a discarded lottery ticket only to find it is a winner and overnight they may become rich but if they do not balance out their belief structure and keep flipping back and forth between riches and poverty, they may suddenly realize that their new found riches can disappear as easily as they found it. And that also can be easily found in your society.
ALEX: And it’s the same thing with this whole health thing… It’s the same kind of situation then.
KRIS: Indeed. For some people there is a benefit to be had by being sick, by being invalid and so on and so forth. Regardless of how miraculous your power is, you will not change them nor their DNA one iota because they will hold on to their belief in sickness over and above anything you may try to share with them. Do you follow?
ALEX: Yeah, I do. So when I try to do a healing on animals, sometimes they’ve gotten better and sometimes they haven’t.
KRIS: The animal also has its own kind of free will.
ALEX: So it’s different than with people?
KRIS: Indeed.
ALEX: Why is it different?
KRIS: With people, you deal with very complex sets of convictions. With animals, they are more simply laid out. The animal has a perfectly realized knowledge in its way as to its place in nature. It may have decided this is no longer the time for its place and regardless of what you do, it may have already decided to vacate the premises. That does not make you a failure.
ALEX: But with people….
KRIS: It also does not make you a failure.
ALEX: But it’s different.
KRIS: It’s different because you are delving into very extensive belief structures.
The animals’ belief structures are rather rudimentary. Now, when an individual assists another at other layers of selfhood, still the individual will from the focal personality, will not be overridden. So, while it is often referred to as the fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth, tenth dimension, simply deals with different layers of awareness. Even at those layers, once you get outside the specific realm of the focal personality into the domain of essence, there is no illness. Illness is a physical manifestation and it is the result of psychological upset pertaining to the focal personality.
ALEX: It’s always connected to the psychological upset…always?
KRIS: Indeed. The upset may be expressed in many different ways.
ALEX: Even if you’re born with something?
KRIS: Even. There is a need for the individual to entertain and hold a specific psychological condition for reasons that may escape others.
ALEX: They agreed to before they got here.
KRIS: Indeed. You may notice that, and this is often encountered, where both parents are very accomplished academics. They may be scientists or not. And from their union, they will have a child with Down syndrome. Is it genetics? Is it a curse? Is it God being displeased with them? Is it 100 and other things? Or is it that their own lives have now, somehow or other, become unbalanced and a kind soul, most certainly known to them, has decided with them, to help them come back into a state of balance and harmony? By taking birth from their genetic pool but for it’s own purpose and the purpose of the situation, decides to manifest what is called Down syndrome where there is no possible way that any wish on their part could lead to a child that will outshine them in terms of importance but that particular child may be so free to express emotions and simple joys that it teaches the parents some much needed lessons. This is merely an example. Do you understand?
ALEX: Yeah, I do.
KRIS: So, there are always, always a system of psychological checks and balances, if not displayed in this one lifetime then there will be other focal personalities created to regain that sense of balance. That is why we suggested that your tertiary focal personality alignment is with Dulvar. That is what you are seeking.
ALEX: Harmony and balance.
KRIS: Indeed. Then that will go on the records as we, once again, are being sly.
ALEX: You can’t read as much about Dulvar, unfortunately, because there is so much controversy.
KRIS: It is irrelevant.
ALEX: Yeah. Just for the record…. Dulvar is needed!
KRIS: We will wish you then a harmonious and balanced week.
ALEX: The postcards.
KRIS: You may all look for postcards.
JOHN: Yeah! (laughter)
KRIS: Have a pleasant week.
ALL: Thank you!
Session Ends at 10:02pm
Practice of Perspectives
November 15, 2004
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois
Transcribed by Marcy Singer
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on Monday, November 15, 2004
© Copyright 2004 Avion Rising Inc.
In Castaic, CA: Paul H (Janaki), Joanne (Rosalie), Ester (Benata), Paul T (Antolian)
In Toronto: Serge (Joseph), Alex (Darrolid)
Session begins at 7:59 pm
KRIS: Now we are glad that you are all enjoying a most beautiful day.
CASTAIC: Hi Kris, hello.
KRIS: Indeed. We trust that you feel as close to us here as we feel to you. Indeed if you extend your subjective awareness you might find that geographical distances are not a problem for energy, personal energy structures. What do you feel at your end of the telephone line in this moment?
PAUL T: This is Antolian. I can generally feel your energy before you get here. I feel it as an energy coursing through my, for lack of a better term, energetic body.
KRIS: And in this very moment, what are you all feeling?
PAUL H: I have my eyes closed, and so I’m really feeling as you suggest. I’m just feeling an expanded sense of connection.
KRIS: Indeed. And keep in mind that the word ‘feeling’ is a general term for a host of sensory experiences and ultra-sensory experiences.
This is simply to affirm that geographical distances are not a barrier to exchanges of energy of one kind of another. And that actually focusing as you do through [your] physical image does tend to dull those ultra or para-sensory mechanisms and inner faculties of yours. So do rest assured that we have your best intention at heart.
Now we believe that there is an issue that needs to be explained. Is that correct?
PAUL H: Indeed. Would you like me to try and frame a question around this issue?
KRIS: Indeed, it is not necessary, but it would be interesting for you to express the one significant comment that we made some months back that actually frames and defines this action of consciousness. Do you follow?
PAUL H: I do. Sometimes it pays to take notes. I’m going to read a sentence here then from the September 6 group session that we had: “This is an action that occurs only periodically depending on the overall intent of a cycle itself, and still in non linear terms, this has occurred, is occurring, will occur, and may not occur, all together.” In regards to the Tenth Family, the Dulvar!
KRIS: Indeed. And this would lead you to surmise what kind of thoughts?
PAUL H: Since you stated ‘non-linear”, by thoughts turn to that aspect of self that I guess we would call Second and Third Quadrant in terms of the map you’ve given us. And in non-linear terms I went to simultaneous time from Seth, and so on and so forth. And then of course Paul Tews just mentioned the vast probability fields that are involved with this idea of “has occurred, is occurring, will occur and may not occur all at the same time”. And I just had a vast feeling about that and felt my own focus personality with an ability to comprehend in linear terms.
KRIS: As you have observed the focal personality has a need for very specific types of structures and other psychological constructions based upon the organizational lattices of its own ego. Do you follow?
PAUL H: Yes.
KRIS: As such when we presented this information, we did specify in certain words that there was a vast field of potentialities pertinent to it, and though the action of consciousness has not necessarily dissipated, it may indeed have started to manifest in other areas or levels. And as Elias has commented, there is no contradiction, but because the lattice of ego constructions requires contradictions of one type and one degree or another to try and understand its own juxtaposition within the spheres of actions of consciousness, the ego construction then needs to set up fields of dualities and duplicities, aligning various potentials on one side or another and making certain types of judgments and orientations, depending upon its own sets of convictions. And this is not meant to express judgment, but simply a clarification on how the ego construction functions as it has become alienated from its own sources.
This is clearly evident with this specific issue that sensing the vast potentials of this energy emergence, ego constructions and all of the associated convictions kicked into high gear and in some cases ‘overdrive’ to try and create an immediate comprehension of such a vast concept as intent in ‘families of intent’ first of all, and some of you have captured a small glimpse of that emergent energy and very quickly associated with it, affiliated with it. And again this is not passing a judgment but an observation to help you notice how your own thoughts, your own ideas, your own drives, and your own subjective states function together and bring you to recognize awareness, consciousness, enlightenment, illumination, with a different active principle, with the appearance of contradictory information with the appearance in your own minds of conflicts, so that you can bring to yourselves verification and a sense of balance so that you may understand that much further how your own actions, objective and subjective, can bring you both apparent conflict and answers and solutions simultaneously. Do you follow any of that?
CASTAIC: Yes.
KRIS: This also allows to bring to conscious awareness some individuals’ own needs to find divisiveness instead of the underlying intent of their own purposes. Do you also understand that?
CASTAIC: Oh yes.
KRIS: So it is not specifically that either ourselves (we) or Elias are playing anyone for a monkey’s uncle.
CASTAIC: We heard that comment!
KRIS: But it does bring you to the realization and the recognition of how it is possible to take a hill of beans and make a new Mt. Everest. Do you follow?
CASTAIC: Oh yeah.
KRIS: So you may, therefore, congratulate yourselves for having brought these issues to your own conscious perceptions and bring about a clarification. And this is pretty heavy stuff. Do you follow? (…long pause) Is anyone still left alive?
PAUL T: This is a short comment. I heard people describe this sort of situation as ‘living within the mystery’ because we HAVE information here, but we don’t have the whole picture and it’s how to bring resolution with seemingly contradictory information within oneself. And the only way to do that is to just try to live within that contradiction.
KRIS: Indeed. As we have described this Dulvar intent exists and does not exist simultaneously, just as you exist and do not exist simultaneously, just as you are alive and not alive simultaneously and you find the appropriate levels or bridges that allow you to straddle these apparent ‘incomprehensibles’, and between those two extremes you create sufficient peepholes into eternity through which you see all of time and none of time, through which you see your own mortality and immortality simultaneously. Therefore, the ultimate conundrum exists because you yourselves are the conundrum. Do you follow?
PAUL T: You’re getting very Zen.
KRIS: And you guys think WE are mysterious.
Now we did say that this tenth family exists, does not exist, has been made manifest, may be made manifest, all at once, and there is no contradiction within such a statement. But conflict and contradiction arise when individuals have a need to prove that one thing is right because the other thing is not right, and one thing is not right because the OTHER thing is right. That actually leads to a very narrow perception and needful interpretations into black and white terminology, of which we are none of the above. So you can say in some way that the Dulvar exist, do not exist, and you would still be correct.
Water exists when it is in the glass, when it is in the ice cube, when it is in the cup of tea, but water still exists even if you do not see it, such as when it is in its vaporous form. It still exists because you are able to breathe. Is that correct?
PAUL H: Yes.
KRIS: Now we hope that you have at least a small inkling of what we have tried to convey to you and that out of this, you are able to reflect deeply and understand that even with the latticework of ego construction, there is still sufficient space to create both dual and non-dual perceptions coexisting simultaneously, because the true nature of the ego’s function is actually to bring diverse views together in a “FUNCTIONAL HYPOTHESIS OF REALITY”. And when you begin to examine the “hypothesis of reality” from the inside out, then indeed so-called reality acquires a different dimension. It does not invalidate the beautiful reality constructions that you entertain and give life to, but it also leads you to ponder that there is more to reality than meets the eye and you are entirely free to spell the word “eye” any way you like (as in ‘I’).
Now we would like if you do not mind to move to another topic. Is this acceptable?
PAUL H: Can I just ask one question? And I’ll keep it short.
KRIS: Yes, do so, or do not (general laughter).
PAUL H: I promise to keep it short. From your perspective, what cluster does Elias belong to? You belong to Gaura, presumably Janaki belongs to Taaj. From your perspective, what cluster does Elias belong to?
KRIS: Are you looking to get us into trouble again (more laughter)?
PAUL H: No. Just the opposite, I’m looking to find unity in diversity, and I mean that with all sincerity.
KRIS: But you did not run for office.
PAUL H: If nominated I will not serve.
KRIS: But your question has been approved by yourself.
PAUL H: Yes.
KRIS: Indeed then. We do keep up with your times. Now Elias, from our perspective, Elias is from the Taaj but the source of Elias is another issue altogether.
PAUL H: Understood. Care to comment on that source?
KRIS: Not at this point.
PAUL H: Fair enough.
PAUL T: So you are saying that the source energy for what we know as Elias is a seed from another cluster.
KRIS: Indeed.
JOANNE: It’s safe to say that the two of you are in cahoots. Correct?
KRIS: You were not supposed to let that out of the bag. If we were Scottish we would have to beat you with the haggis now.
JOANNE: So you two are obviously in communication.
KRIS: We know of each other. In your terms you could even say once in awhile we talk about you. After all, all is fair in war and love.
JOANNE: In war and love. That’s right. Thank you.
KRIS: Now, we believe in the last session with you and that even the previous one as well we tried to give a much wider perspective to your perceptions of selfhood, leaving you to ponder the meaning of the word “I”, and in “I am.” Is this correct?
CASTAIC: Yes.
KRIS: And we did lead you to a beautiful meditation upon self as expressed through the stars. Do you remember?
CASTAIC: Yes.
KRIS: We would like in a manner of speaking to expand upon that and actually present a more in depth exploration to what we call the Practice of Perspectives. Now as we have described occasionally, there are different tools at your disposal that can be of great assistance in helping you handle and work with your own challenges, your own struggles, by literally altering the angle of your perspectives in a very literal fashion. As we have done in the past with others, we will also do with you. And this involves a small physical type of action, but not necessarily that you have to move.
What we suggest is that you orient yourselves towards the main window, if there is such in your room. Are you in the living room facing a window?
PAUL H: Yes. We need to open the blinds.
KRIS: It is not necessary. But you are entirely free to do so because it may add to the experience, though it is not necessary.
Let us know if you decide to open the window blinds or drapes and open them.
CASTAIC: They are closed.
KRIS: Indeed. Now sit comfortably. You may choose to close your eyes or leave them open as is comfortable for you. And in your inner field of vision, in your mind’s eye, see a picture with anything you desire upon it, be it a cat, a car, a house, another person, an object, and think this image is very close to you. It may be easier for you to get a good perspective by simply projecting the image several feet from you, perhaps three or four feet from you, as opposed to right up your nose. And as you do so, notice how you physically feel or react to that action. Notice how your shoulders are, all the muscles in your neck, or even your heart rate and your breathing as you move the image or mental picture away from you.
And now as you become adjusted to the distance, pretend that you can take this image or mental picture and you can project it even further, perhaps at the very edge of the window or just outside the window, and pay attention to how your physical form reacts. And once again pretend that you can project this image all the way to the main road or even further over the horizon and notice how your physical form reacts.
And now allow the image or mental picture to actually go so far over the horizon that it completely disappears. And again pay attention to your physical form’s actions. And at this point you may breathe deeply, bring your awareness back to where your physical form is, take awareness of the room your body is in, wiggle your fingers and your toes, open your eyes and come back to yourself. And if you need to you may even move your limbs, hands, arms, feet, legs, and be completely focused into that room once again.
Are you all with us?
CASTAIC: Yes.
KRIS: Indeed. How did this feel for you?
PAUL T: It’s a great meditation technique. It provided me an excellent method to slow down.
KRIS: Any other comments?
PAUL H: As I moved out of the house and up to the hilltop and then into the horizon and beyond my awareness extended out to include all of that and then when we pulled back into the room, I felt very small again, right here in the room.
KRIS: Indeed. There is no right way or wrong way to feel with such an exercise. This is a preliminary stage. We still will share with you at least two other angles to use with this kind of method, with rather surprising results as the end product. So for the moment we will suggest a short break.
Break begins at 8:37
Sessions resumes 8:48 pm
KRIS: Now, it stands to reason that if we can extend our own energy field in such a manner that geographical distances are literally non-existent, it must also stand to reason that perhaps unawares to you, subjectively you do the same. You straddle the so-called geographical distances and in one way or another a portion of your own energy is extended into this room, which is why we opened with such a comment followed by the so-called mystery of the ‘families’ of consciousness, to give you inkling, a subjectively perceived and experienced action that you can be physically and subjectively in two different locations and there is no contradiction within yourself, in being who you are, regardless of where your experience of being occurs. Does that make some sense to you?
PAUL H: Bi-location is imagery of that.
KRIS: Indeed, and though this may not particularly be classified as an instance of bi-location in the standard terms, it still qualifies, since your subjective experience or a portion thereof extends itself across the continent. Does that also make sense?
PAUL H: Oh yes, completely. Is there some thought form involved in the projection of that subjective awareness, or is that more of an objective phenomenon?
KRIS: There are varying degrees of projection, and though there may not be a specific image of yourself in another location, it does not mean that it cannot be allowed or that it must be discounted, because you are still able to extend your inner senses and enjoy another location. Whether you may refer to it as remembering Kuwaii or Maui or another tropical location when you are physically in another part of the world, all of the faculties are activated, and whether you consider it merely your imagination, you still have some kind of sensory or para-sensory input.
And whom is to say that even though you traveled the route in the acceptable fashion of purchasing a ticket, boarding a plane, landing in a tropical island and enjoying its climate and environment, this is still part of the vast realm of the imagination, and whom is to say that physical reality, physical expression is not another domain and dimension of essence imagination without invalidating yourself one iota, in fact even giving it that much more credibility. Does that make sense to you?
CASTAIC: Yes.
KRIS: So by the figments of your imagination, we will continue. Is that acceptable?
ALL: Yes.
KRIS: We only have one word of caution. Do not think for a moment that these will think that you are imaginary. Now did this go over your heads?
ALL: Yes!
KRIS: Indeed! Now the earlier small exercise in adjusting your perspective allowed you to also detect an almost physical like motion and sensation in a very tactile manner. Did it not? Do you follow?
PAUL H: Yes.
KRIS: We would like to give you Practice, Part II, if you so care.
PAUL H: Oh yes. We so choose.
KRIS: Then we suggest that once again you sit comfortably, you may even choose to leave your eyes open and as best you can rest your hands in your lap, palms up. Feel your feet on the ground or wherever they are. Take stock of your body, exactly where it is. Take stock of the environment your body is in, and all ambient sounds and noises in the environment will become for you, an assistance a help in providing a better state of relaxation.
We suggest that in your mind’s eye in the same close up position you imagine, you bring forth something that is challenging to you right now in your life, regardless of what it is, and if you wish to bring about a more tactile feel to this challenge, imagine that in your left hand this challenge takes a shape, it could even be a simple geometric form of any kind you choose. It may even have some kind of density, of mass, and even features, as an accompaniment to the imagery in your mind’s eye, and have a closer look at this imagery in your mind’s eye, and pretend that you have the means to actually split the screen in your mind’s eye so that the left side of the screen in your mind’s eye contains the challenge you are bringing up in your awareness, and on the right side of the screen you can project images or imagery of what it feels like to have the challenge that you focus on the left side resolved on the right side.
And just as you did with the left hand, in your right hand imagine that the resolution to your challenge can even have geometric shape, form, density, mass, dimensions even. And once you have both scenes in your mind’s eye as well as in your hands, pretend that the split image in your mind is being pulled away from you by a few feet, and the geometric shapes or forms in your hands also rise from your palms to go underneath the image in the same position. And notice how you feel with this step one action.
And now both the image, the two sides and the two accompanying geometric form move further away from you towards the window, by the window or at the window and again notice the actions of your body, the feeling of your physical selves. And as you feel perhaps a certain lightness fill you, allow your hands to even rise a little bit, now that they are freed from these geometric forms or mass.
And now allow the images and the geometric forms to move outside of the home and notice how you feel from your inside perspective. And as both the image and the geometric forms move ever so further away, your hands and arms become lighter.
And now allow both the image and the geometric form s to move further and faster towards the horizon to a point where they really are not distinguishable from each other any more. And as they fly away towards the horizon and they start disappearing toward the horizon, move your hands up and allow the palms of your hands to come together as the image and the forms are now nothing but small dots, mere specks on the horizon and they keep on their journey.
And you may now wiggle your fingers, bring your hands back to you laps, wiggle your toes, breathe deeply and as you open your eyes you come back fully and conscious into the room and you are completely reintegrated into the room as your full conscious self.
How do you feel?
JOANNE: I feel as though my current issue and the resolution is the same thing and I feel lighter because of it. Because I put so much focus on that issue that I put energy into it and I see things as all or nothing when really they are the same thing.
KRIS: Anyone else?
ESTER: When you asked us to move it outside the house I realized that my shoulders were very tense and I felt my shoulder and everything else relax.
KRIS: And how do your shoulders feel now?
ESTER: They are very relaxed. I don’t feel anything. I’m just very relaxed right now.
KRIS: Indeed, anyone else?
PAUL T: It brought to me the power of the belief system of duplicity. The problem and the resolution are integrally combined with one another and splitting them like that is what creates the tension, and so by pushing them further so that, in my perspective, they come closer together, then that IS a release of that tension.
JOANNE: I wondered what would become of my issues floating there on the horizon, if I didn’t have it in my head anymore. I feel the same sense of relaxation in those exercises when the objects went outside the window.
KRIS: Indeed. You may definitely feel free to use such a small exercise. It is not a cure all, but it will certainly bring assistance in helping you resolve certain situations, and even complex ones that sometimes appear incomprehensible to the mind and to the conscious self, simply because it does not yet see the resolution because you are focusing upon the problem. Do you follow?
PAUL H: Exactly. And that was my reaction. I imaged a red ball in my left hand as the problem and a blue ball as the resolution, and those colors came naturally. And the blue, the resolution expanded to the size of about a basketball. Let’s say the red ball was like a baseball. And so the size was imagery to me too of the energy, the density, and then of course as it went further away in parallax on the horizon two points become one. And as Joanne says too, you realize they are both integrally a part of the same creation and it’s nice to be able to visualize a solution, even if you don’t rationally know what it is yet, just to feel it as Ester experienced with that tension resolving, you do start to relax and it helps you come back to the difficulty perhaps, with fresher eyes, with a solution, knowing there is some solution.
KRIS: And furthermore, in specific unconscious lingo you are presenting action, steps to action to the so-called unconscious to kick-start and put into motion the very resolution that you have envisioned or at least something akin to it in a way, in a manner that it can accomplish for you. Does that make sense?
ALL: Yes. Cool.
KRIS: It is another form of autosuggestion, not necessarily burdened by syntax, thus it would even be more readily absorbed and acted upon by the unconscious.
Now if you are of a mood, we would like to present you with the third stage of such an exercise.
ALL: Yes.
KRIS: Now this will follow a similar pattern requiring you once again to sit comfortably, and you are entirely free to leave your eyes open or to close them. You can use all ambient sounds to deepen the relaxation, to enhance the trance itself. As you breathe deeply, your mind opens and with each breath you allow yourself to go back, go back in time and space. Your mind opens to the possibilities of going back in time and space, back to a time before there was a time, back to a place before there was a place. And in the depths of self you find a beautiful island with a beautiful beach upon which you may even recline. Enjoy the warm, tropical breeze of a starry night sky of rich velvety blackness speckled with points of light.
And as you make yourself comfortable reclining on this warm tropical beach at night, you use the ambient sounds of that environment to relax you further, the gentle washing of the waves upon the sandy beach, the gentle caressing sound of the breeze amongst the branches and the leaves, and you look up at the majestic velvety darkness and randomly you select one specific point of light and since you are aware that in some poetic way these points of light represent other focal personalities, other focus selves, you can begin playing with the range of perspectives available to you and you may for instance, project your perception, your perspective towards the treetops, keeping that point of light in your sight.
And you then begin to project your perspective that much more, perhaps reaching out towards some small clouds high in the sky or perhaps towards the moon, if it is present. And then project your perspective towards the specific point of light you focused upon with the full knowledge that even though there is an image of you lying on the beach and there is an image of you sitting in that room, you are totally comfortable being in those places at once, and as your perspective is projected towards the point of light, you may start acquiring impression upon that point of light. Allow yourself to go directly to it and take a moment to enjoy the experience.
And now still following the sound of our voice you lovingly and tenderly embrace that moment and retract the projection of your perspective and direct your attention once again to your image gently reclining on the beach of the warm tropical island. And as you become semi conscious of that image, you take your perspective and you direct it towards that other expression of yourselves in the living room. You take a deep breath, and on the count of three you will return fully conscious to yourself. One, you may wiggle toes, fingers, hands and feet. Take a deep breath. And Two, you may move your arms a little bit, knees and legs. Take another deep breath and three, now you can open your eyes and become fully conscious of your environment, of yourself in it, and of your physical form.
You are all back?
CASTAIC: Mostly.
KRIS: Indeed then. We suggest either a small or continuing for a few moments, and then we will bring our lovely evening to a charming close.
PAUL H: Small break.
KRIS: Indeed.
Break begins at 9:24 pm.
Session resumes at 9:31 pm
KRIS: Now as Rosalie has pointed out there is another small segment of the exercise than you on your own may add to the practice, and that is that once you are in that other space, that you actually direct your perspective towards your point of origin and from your far off or removed perspective you can add energy, you can add nurturing and support and observe the point of origin self going through its paces and its struggles and its challenges, and from the removed perspective add some guidance. Does that make sense to you?
ALL: Yes.
KRIS: Indeed. And it will have far reaching effects on its own. But these things have to be put into practice. Merely juggling them in the mind, dissecting them will not bring much result, but actually putting it into practice will have an effect.
PAUL H: Thank you for that.
KRIS: Now as to your other small comment…..if Serge/Joseph had brought back imaginary self, it would have worked just as well, but do keep in that Serge/Joseph are sometimes as stubborn as Rubert.
Do you have any questions?
PAUL T: This is Antolian. Yes I do. A few days ago during my meditation in which I was counting breaths, when I got to the number nine I had this insight, shall we say, spring upon me. And that was that I was the ninth meditator to join a group, and these nine meditators are all focus personalities of my essence. And that I was the last one to join this group of which everyone that is meditating was aware of the others. And the other interesting thing was that these nine were grouped into three groups of three, and I identified the two other focus personalities who were in my triad, so to speak, one of them is a future focus and the other one is a Tibet monk in the year 1372 is what came to mind.
The other insight that I had was that in some way we were lending energy to the shift in consciousness. And I was wondering if you could shed any light upon in what manner that is occurring. Of course, within consciousness energy is being lent, but I’m wondering if this has some direct applicability to THIS particular focus of attention of Antolian other than to keep meditating.
KRIS: You may keep meditating, but you also need to bring about the bacon. Now the perceptions are good. There is an action within yourself. We believe that when you sense that you are lending energy as a group unit to the shift in consciousness; do not forget that self also IS the shift in consciousness. It may give the appearance of an overall global shift in consciousness but primarily self is shift and shifting. Does Antolian understand that?
PAUL T: Yes. What you’re referring to is that it is a personal shift and when I say personal in this case I do mean from an essence standpoint.
KRIS: Indeed, it is individualized.
PAUL T: Am I interpreting your comment correctly?
KRIS: Correct. And from the source of that action there is an out flowing of energies that may assist others. Do you follow?
PAUL T: Yes, I do. That falls in with my intent.
KRIS: Indeed. And a sweet intent it is.
Now we will take leave of your lovely intent, and may all of the blessings that you wish to pour onto the world be feasted upon by yourself first. And may your dreams and your journeys in time and space be most enjoyable.
9:38 pm
Invite Don’t Fight Beliefs
November 8, 2004
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois
Transcribed by Alex (Darrolid)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on November 8, 2004
© Copyright 2004 Avion Rising Inc.
Roll Call: Serge, Alex (Darrolid), Myrna (Shara-Leene), John (Sohars)
Session Begins at 8:07pm
Note: Myrna was wondering why she was attracted to these sessions. She knew it was for a reason – we discussed the fact that it wasn’t a coincidence- we were all there for a reason – but wasn’t sure what her reason, in particular, was.
KRIS: In that respect, you are indeed correct. It could easily be said that the physical interactions in this room are for the benefit of the ego construction whilst everything else is occurring at deeper subjective levels, sometimes even beyond the reach and comprehension of the ego construction.
You are pondering as to the meaning of your presence here or our presence here. In actuality, what you are searching for is, what kinds of experiences are you offering to yourself through these interactions? The answer lies with the way you feel, what you respond to, what you resonate with during, before AND after these interactions. That is what you are offering yourself.
If we can in some humble manner be a catalyst for these interactions, then indeed we thank you for providing us with the opportunity to play that role. In some way, these interactions are not that different from when you go to the theatre and you watch your favorite actor or actress play their role. How you interact with that exchange, how you are affected by the acting, by the words, by the emotions displayed. How your favorite actor or actress is transforming the energy into something that gives you a sense of being. Do you understand?
MYRNA: Nods her head.
KRIS: However, we are convinced that somehow or other there are no Oscars for these (present) interactions. That is a small price to pay for seeing your faces light up, for sensing and knowing that your Selves have suddenly found a voice through our humble presence, so that you can hear your thoughts, your experiences verbalized in this manner. Does that make sense to you?
MYRNA: I’m listening and contemplating.
KRIS: As it should be. In another manner then, you’ve taken the opportunity to teach yourself some profound lessons that may not necessarily have found their way to you in any other manner.
MYRNA: I would like to know about those lessons.
KRIS: Those lessons are the ones you are teaching yourself at this point in time. Consider what you have experienced and felt before you came here the first time, while you were here, after you left here and being here once again. All of the thought processes that you have engaged for that period of time, the inner reflections that you have juggled, the possibilities that you have entertained, the various psychological and emotional states that you have traveled through and that have become part of your repertoire at this time. All of these are part of the process. Does that make sense?
MYRNA: Nods her head.
KRIS: Those are the tools that you have used to carve out of reality those situations that provide you with a clear display of your own inner states being reflected back to you and again, we are merely a voice that echoes those situations from within yourself. In other words, you hold the wisdom, the insights and the revelations. We are merely making a humble attempt to echo them back to you. This does not invalidate our own existence but it does affirm that you create your own reality (pointing finger at Myrna). Does that also make sense?
MYRNA: If you’re acting as a mirror for me, yes.
KRIS: And that is the gift that you offer to yourself. Do you have another question?
MYRNA: Hmmm. (Myrna takes time to think about what he said before asking her question. She speaks VERY slowly and deliberately now.) I want, want a great fortune. I have big dreams. I have lots of resistance because I do not have a great fortune. I am so frustrated. I have wonderful dreams and I’m getting in my own way. I want to get out of my own way and I want help to get out of my own way. And I study Abraham, and I study Abraham. (Note: for those of you who don’t know who Abraham is, Abraham is the entity channeled by Esther Hicks). And I … (makes a frustrating gesture like she can’t find the right words to describe her frustration)…. (transcribers note: she takes a deep breath and then starts to laugh. From my standpoint the deep breath feels like a release for her because she finally put into words what she has been feeling and is relieved to have gotten it out.)
KRIS: The answers to your voluminous questions may indeed take time. Suffice it to say that the recognition of those areas where you feel frustration, blockages, restrictions are not what you should fight. Neither should you fight self. That will only amplify your sense of frustration in that area.
MYRNA: And failure.
KRIS: It is one thing to want and desire great things. It is another thing to cultivate those very beliefs that lead you to the fulfillment of those ideals.
MYRNA: Yes.
KRIS: Recognizing those beliefs that are impediments, which include your frustration, sense of failure, resistance and so on and so forth; those convictions are not the enemy and neither are you.
Our point is: there is a need to embrace, first of all, the entire SELF, up to and including that self that you sense is in the way of the fulfillment of your dreams. When you feel frustration, resentment, failure, barriers to fulfillment of those ideals, you literally bring into your awareness those very convictions that are behind that particular state that you are aware of. Do you follow?
MYRNA: I’m trying to.
KRIS: When you are aware of those particular convictions – this is by no means an in-depth answer at this time but you need a starting point – when you encounter those blocks, whatever their nature, the general tendency is to beat oneself up for having those states come into your awareness. Correct?
MYRNA: Yes.
KRIS: You may begin by changing how you view the state and how you judge yourself for bringing the state of awareness up to consciousness or conscious consideration. Do you follow so far?
MYRNA: Yes.
KRIS: Now perhaps, instead of feeling that once again here is the problem coming back to keep me from my dreams, see each one of them as an actual effort by your inner Self or unconscious, your subjective state, to bring to your conscious, objective state an alert, an indication that this is an area that must be examined, that should be considered carefully. It is a signal, if you wish or a sign, a communication that in this area you hold specific convictions that lead you not to fulfillment but to frustration, as an example. The idea is not to take an ax and give it forty whacks. Lizzy Borden did that.
The idea is that you invite that particular state into your awareness. Make the enemy your friend. “Do not fight but invite”. That automatically changes your perspective. It changes the charge (note: my interpretation on this is that it changes the energy pattern from one of anger or frustration or even hate to that of love) or the judgment you place upon the state and can easily lead you to diffuse the charge so that what was once considered worthy of being hacked off is not. It can actually be a helpmate, a psychological assistance to bring you to understand the convictions that belong to other aspects of your being that are, in some way, incapable on their own of releasing the charge within the frustration or whatever so that you can get the cooperation of those aspects of your personality to move with you towards the intended goal and to not fight you every inch of the way.
Imagine for instance, as in many restaurants, there are doors that open one way. If you push on a door that you have to pull, you are stalemated. Correct?
MYRNA: Nods.
KRIS: The idea is to see which way the door is supposed to be opened. Similarly this requires the recognition of the aspects of your own personality that entertains convictions that are counterproductive to the goals you want to set for yourself. Otherwise, you encounter Pollyanna-like philosophies that (state) all you have to do is think pretty thoughts, click your heels three times and find yourself NOT in Kansas. Do you understand?
MYRNA: Yeah, we got it, Pollyanna and Dorothy.
KRIS: Indeed. They are sisters. The point is to use these as stepping-stones instead of weights. There is an old saying, we believe, that if life gives you melons, you make fruit salad.
MYRNA: I understand. I like the concept of the various aspects not being able to release the charge by themselves.
KRIS: Indeed.
MYRNA: I like that.
KRIS: Another approach is to consider that you are observer. You are observing consciousness. You observe various personality aspects acting and interacting within the parameters of a field of events. We have referred, in the past, to these as Inner Field of events and Outer Field of events. As observer consciousness, you notice aspects interacting in the inner field of events. Their interactions influence the outcome of activities in the outer field of events. This falls in line with what we are developing…the practice of perspective. Change the perspective from which you operate on. Do you follow?
MYRNA: (Thoughtful) No…I understand observer consciousness…
KRIS: Indeed. That is fine. As observer consciousness, you notice that some aspects of your own Self are entertaining specific convictions, not in line with your goals.
MYRNA: Yes.
KRIS: Now, also consider the schoolteacher who works for the students and their education. Do you follow?
MYRNA: Yes.
KRIS: Now, if a student displays a behavior that may even be slightly disruptive, the teacher does not necessarily immediately strap the student down and knock off his block but instead seeks to understand the nature of his behavior and why he or she is acting in that way. Consider then that as observer consciousness, you are the teacher. That is the purpose of your conscious minds.
MYRNA: Kris, I’m aware of that and I’m aware of the aspects…I’m aware of the aspects. I’ve spent a lot of years being trained as a therapist or in therapy. I’m aware of a lot of my own aspects and I observe…and I observe. What I haven’t been successful at, I believe, is getting them all to cooperate.
KRIS: Now…
MYRNA: Even with a lot of love and compassion for the aspects. I understand why those parts of me are present…I understand.
KRIS: You also understand that the Self is made up of aspects. You are another aspect of yourself. Now, once you communicate with a specific aspect that displays – we will simply call it a thought behavior – that is counterproductive to your goals, you can easily engage in dialogue with it. You can do that mentally. You can do that through feeling tones. You can even play the role of sitting next to Self, which requires mental imagery. Engage in dialogue with that aspect. The goal is not to force it into submission or force it to change but to encourage it to align with the greater goals that also benefit it. Find that commonality. Do you understand?
MYRNA: Mmhmm.
KRIS: By finding that, you will bridge the various beliefs that previous to the moment that has proven to be frustrating, by creating that bridge; you create closeness, a sense of fulfillment and accomplishment. Together, if all the tugboats tug in the same direction then the barge moves. If the tugboats tug in different directions, again, you are stalemated. Correct? So, bring your psychological tugboats to lineup in one direction. It may be easier said than done but this is not beyond the accomplishment of any one single individual. Do you follow?
MYRNA: Nods.
KRIS: Once you start getting the knack for this kind of psychological tugging, it is much easier to hold – you may even call them meetings, conferences of Self – but whatever methods that you employ, bring under one umbrella, the Self, as many aspects of Self as wish to cooperate with your goals and then go for the gold.
You may study any kind of Anthony Robbins and any related materials. That is what, in some respects, Tony Robbins refers to when he says, “Awaken the sleeping tiger.” Do you understand?
MYRNA: Mmhmm.
KRIS: Is waking the Self to one purpose. Concentrating your energies, as we said earlier, this is but a brief overview but sufficient to give you much food for thought.
MYRNA: And I think what I will do is meet you again privately.
KRIS: Indeed.
MYRNA: Because I want to meet all of these aspects.
KRIS: In the meantime…
MYRNA: I know a few…
KRIS: In the meantime, give yourself suggestions for breakthrough dreams that will allow more to be discovered within the dream state, in a manner that will lead to you be consciously aware of the work you are engaging in unconsciously. Do you follow?
MYRNA: Nods.
KRIS: That will give you much headway into the situation.
MYRNA: Before I turn it over, I would like to know my essence name.
KRIS: Our interpretation of your essence tone is Shara-Leene.
MYRNA: Can you spell that for me?
KRIS: S-H-A-R-A-L-E-E-N-E.
JOHN: It’s very pretty.
KRIS: If you wish it to be more exotic, you may even hyphenate it.
MYRNA: Fine. I see. Shara-Leene.
KRIS: Now, then we will suggest a small break and you may even discuss to yourself how Shara-Leene can be another perspective of Self.
Session Breaks at 8:36pm
Note: Changing the topic, Myrna wondered if there was any truth in Soul Contracts: agreements we made – before we incarnated into physical existence – with all the individuals in our life, about events and experiences that we go through.
Session Resumes at 9:05pm
KRIS: Now, the idea of your agreements and contracts is very interesting. One can, however, take these ideas and make a circus of them. However, all individuals do communicate a certain type of project together; such as all of the individuals present on your planet at this time have made varying kinds of agreements to bring of their vision, their intent, their views to bear some change upon the psychological geography of not only the lives of all the people, but you also bring about change, transformation and fulfillment as best as is possible within the parameters that you can allow yourselves. Just as you all here have some kind of agreement to participate in this evening even if you did not know each other. You do live in a telepathic universe where form is not a hindrance to communication. Your Selves are not sitting where your seats are.
You are basically everywhere and in everything. You are consciousness awareness but you as focal personalities, ego constructions, may not necessarily be aware of the entirety of yourself, unless you make a concerted effort to direct the focus of your attention in a specific direction and that direction will only be another aspect of that Self.
Over and above your forms, you have communication and awareness with literally all forms of life on your planet. You are unconsciously aware of the thoughts and the feelings, the experiences, of the joys and the sorrows of all individuals and creatures on your planet. There is a part of you that is aware of a beggar finding joy in discovering its coveted grain of rice in an impoverished country. There is a part of you that is aware of a woman giving birth, a boy climbing his first tree, a little girl making her first cupcake or punching the little boy in the nose.
There is a part of you that is aware of a small bird piercing the shell and having looked at the world for the first time. There is a part of you that is aware that somewhere there is a leaf caressing a dewdrop. There is a part of you that is aware of a beam of sunshine floating on the water, a river or a creek and so on and so forth. Consciously you cannot carry that kind of awareness. You do not have the neurological capacity physically to carry that kind of consciousness. But you have the auspices of your imagination, which give you an inkling of the vast extent of your expression through time and space.
There is a part of you that is also aware that you have focal personalities in many different time periods or even other parts of the galaxy that you may find foreign or alien to your Self-image. That same part of you is aware of the communications of all of the individuals that you know because it participates in those communications. You may, for instance, consider it merely a coincidence that a friend that you have not seen or heard of in a long time suddenly turns into the same aisle as you when you shop. You might even be thinking of a friend when who should call but that very friend. These are small ideas we are conveying to let you know there is a certain degree of awareness well beyond your conscious perceptions about awareness that puts you in touch with all living things. That includes things that you do not consider living such as this table or these walls. There is a consciousness in all.
We are saying this simply to indicate that there are communications and therefore, awareness and agreements exchanged at all levels and layers of existence. You have come to physical reality. You have expressed yourself into it with others, traveling companions and friends. Some do not necessarily show themselves in physical life, and if you look towards your dreams you may indeed recognize that there are individuals that appear in your dreams that you are friends with or that you know but they never manifest in physical life. You had agreements with them as well to participate in some area of physical reality creation.
This does not occur only between life stages but whilst you are also manifest in physical reality. You do this through the auspices of deep layers of dream work. You do it in your own awareness when you daydream and do not pay attention to what is going on in your own thoughts. So, you do have agreements. You have contracts with friends and acquaintances to carry out certain adventures but you are not legally bound to them. Fortunately for you there are no lawyers in Framework 2.
ALEX: Yet…. (Repeat) Yet.
KRIS: (To me) There are systems to keep the rest of the Universe sane.
Now, all kidding aside, there are layers of consciousness. Seth referred to them as Framework 2, 3, 4. Elias refers to them as Areas of Consciousness. Correct? Or Regional Areas 2, 3, 4. We have referred to them as Layers or Levels of Consciousness. There are the activities that go on behind the scenes. In those areas, you have communications with individuals. You do not meet anyone that you have not had some form of prior contact with because you engage in drama, in a play. It is the play of your reality. They take specific roles within it just as you take specific roles within their reality. It is a shared venture and still from your perspective, that is your creation.
So, you have fun parties behind the scenes and no action is ever undertaken without friends of one kind or another. No act is acted upon without the interaction of another. No events are engaged without some degree of cooperation so that everyone benefits in one manner or another even if from your perspective you cannot possibly imagine what someone else’s benefit could be.
(Note: As Kris said this he leaned over and spoke specifically to me. He was referring to the session that took place two weeks ago about expectations and judgments. The session is called “Expectations and A Gift of Love To You.” To read the session, go to: http://krischronicles.com/transcripts2/expect-giftoflove-oct-25-04.html. As I was the only one who got it, I was the only one who laughed?).
Perhaps somewhere down the line of eternity, you will be able to live that one down.
But you always engage with the agreements of others. This is why we often refer to reality and the interactions within reality as you would a bus of Japanese tourists. You always travel with companions because you can share the adventure. Does that make some sense to you?
MYRNA: I find it very comforting.
KRIS: Indeed. There are different kinds of dreams that you have interactions with and from our perspective, the events at the outer field level are another kind of dream interaction. You think you are awake. You think you are not sleeping. You think that perhaps this is a real world and your dreams are merely figments of your brain cells. You could not be further from the truth. Even your daily actions, those that you consider waking events, are another type of dream altogether.
MYRNA: So, who’s dreaming the dream?
KRIS: Self.
MYRNA: I understand that. So, there is nothing but dreams?
KRIS: Indeed.
ALEX: So right now we’re dreaming with our eyes open?
KRIS: Indeed. You think you are awake and many times you are really asleep when you are awake. That is not to say that you are nothing but sleepy heads, but your best work is usually done in the dream states.
This physical reality is an extension, an highly focused, specialized type of dream reality where another kind of consciousness can take birth, that of the ego construction; a valid, valuable aspect of Self. That in its own way is an expression of essence and it too will find its own way, its own expression, as essence in what you would call a future time. You are all learning and you teach yourselves those lessons that are most precious to your growth in time and space, within the context of time and space.
MYRNA: What is the definition of dreams?
KRIS: The dictionary has one type of interpretation, which emphasizes the idea that there is two selves; one that sleeps and disengages reality and one that is awake and experiences real reality or something to that effect. A dream is a highly, intensely focused experience and awareness of action within consciousness. Not that that will mean much but when you consider what Self does, you may see it more in that light. All the aspects to your present focus, for instance, may be but characters in a dream but who is to say, for instance, that you are not the character in the dream. Do you understand?
MYRNA: I am focused. My attention right now is understanding that dream is happening in consciousness.
KRIS: Indeed.
MYRNA: So, that’s a slip for me around the word dream.
KRIS: Consider, the little fish in the tank.
(Note: Kris points to the lovely aquarium that Mark and Serge have up on the counter beside their couch. We all look at the fish swimming around so joyously).
They are enjoying their pretty little fish lives within their small little Universe. They’re aware that there is something outside of their Universe.
(Note: the fish often stop and look at us and watch us for a while. They seem just as entertained by us as we are by them.)
They may not specifically be able to reach it but they know that something from outside is bringing them food and they can detect forms, shapes and certain events occurring outside the realm of their attention. It is a really small attention span. You are aware in a similar manner of something occurring outside of the sphere of your physical reality.
MYRNA: Yeah.
KRIS: You detect it by your subjective states and some experiences may be so grandiose that it is even physically experienced. Unlike the little fish, you can use your faculties to determine that what is occurring apparently outside your field of events can, and is, intricately interlaced with your own perspective because you create both fields at once, whilst the little fish has no idea that they, in some respects, partially create their little ‘fish-dom.’
You can understand that you create both fields. Now, with that kind of awareness, it is not a great stretch of the imagination to understand that, in actuality, there is only one field of events. It appears to be separate because of those pretty liars, the senses. Looking beyond it, they are a pretty story.
You can determine that there is one field and that one field is a great experience of consciousness whether you call it dream or physical reality, they are different facets of the same experience.
Once you are outside of the physical body, once you leave physical reality, disengage from it, you will also realize that what you used to be considering of dreams and of waking physical lives are neither. There is experience, there is fulfillment, there is a life and it is difficult for the individual that is expressing within physical reality to understand that even definitions of life, in human terms, are so different once you are removed from that particular viewpoint. Do you follow?
MYRNA: Nods.
KRIS: Even what you call dream experiences in your sleeping time – and can be called waking dreams in your waking life – are still representations of another order of living altogether that is far more intense and immediate than any experience in either dreams and waking life together. So, a portion of essence expresses itself as you.
MYRNA: I understand now the word ‘representation.’ It’s a good word for dreams.
KRIS: There are still layers of experiences far different from the current understanding of dream events. In those layers, you have mass events that are very different than the way they eventually end up being represented in physical reality.
MYRNA: Can you give us an example?
KRIS: Examples are religious experiences, enlightenment, what you may call the Christ drama, the Buddha drama and many others. There are interactions of consciousness at those layers that eventually trickle down into the personifications of the aspects of consciousness and there are plays, literally plays, enacted at the physical layer that are mere representations, almost nothing more than echoes of their original. Do you understand?
MYRNA: I’m trying to.
KRIS: Indeed. Just as your Self is an expression of a vaster, more complex reality and this does not invalidate the beautiful selves that you are. It is merely to indicate to you that you interact with and have experiences even outside the realm of physical time/space, as you know them. Those physical events are expressed through the medium of time/space coordinates. There are other coordinates in other layers of reality where your Self is recognized as a multi-dimensional being where you are aware indeed not only of all of your aspects, all of the various expressions of Selfhood but literally as the Universe. And that is a fraction, again, of what is possible for you to be aware of. This is a tall order. You could say that we have jumbo sized the definition.
JOHN: Can I ask a question on that?
KRIS: Indeed.
JOHN: We were talking, the last time I was here, about something that just triggered my mind there. The idea that the experience that we have of physical reality is ultimately an experience of our Self …
KRIS: Indeed.
JOHN: … So the question I have for you is, from the point of view of Kris, does the experience you have … is that also a reflection of you?
KRIS: The experience you see of having here is a little different.
JOHN: Aaah.
KRIS: It is partially so. This time/space coordinate is not the only place we have a voice but it is also as valid and as precious as any of your voices, any of your selves. As you grow in awareness, you will recognize that your experiences of Selfhood easily go beyond any boundaries you can imagine. Even the notion that you are Self-Universe can be said to be part of Self.
JOHN: That’s big.
KRIS: Indeed.
JOHN:
KRIS: But remember size isn’t everything.
JOHN: I wanted to ask a question about…in our last session you mentioned that Myrna has empathic ability. The question that I have is: are their any abilities that I have that would pay me, that would benefit me, to put my energy and attention on?
KRIS: You have empathy as well but you also have an intuitiveness that you do not pay much attention to. Not to say that you would be the next Jean Dixon
You have the wrong hair colour.
However, you may direct your energies in that line and derive benefit. Being intuitive is not necessarily about predicating the future. It could be about predicating the past. It could be about being aware of communications within Self that reveal truths to you, impressions and beyond. Impressions are not merely a game of what kind of famous focus I have. It is about perceiving what else is happening in the Universe. You might receive impressions from the big Maple tree near your place. It may sing you its tree song and it may dance its leaves for you if it has any left.
JOHN: It’s done that actually. Yes.
KRIS: Those are valid impressions.
JOHN: That’s good, very good.
KRIS: Indeed. Now, what is the time?
ALEX: It is 9:38pm.
KRIS: Indeed. Now, we will leave you to dance and sing with the trees and any other pretty life forms that you wish. May your lives be recognized as valid creations whether you can dream it or not. We wish you then a pleasant evening, pleasant dreams and joyous journeys.
ALL: Thank you Kris!
Session Ends at 9:39pm.
Private Session for Wendy from CA, USA (contains “Practice of Perspectives” and info on 2004 Elections USA)
November 7, 2004
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois
Transcribed by Marcy Singer
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on November 7, 2004
© Copyright 2004 Avion Rising Inc.
KRIS: Now then we thank you for having taken the time to prepare your attention and we trust that you are comfortable and in good spirits.
WENDY: I’m getting there. Actually I’ve been having a little bit of ups and downs in the past few days, but I’m feeling pretty good.
KRIS: We are quite aware that many individuals in your country are expressing dismay at the results of the election.
WENDY: Indeed.
KRIS: And we also know that some individuals who fear that because they thought their beliefs would give them what they desired that of course the results prove that none of this reality creation stuff actually works.
WENDY: That is not my feeling.
KRIS: Indeed. And that is a natural impression because you always get where your beliefs are at.
WENDY: That makes it particularly disturbing Kris.
KRIS: If you will understand there is a difference between what one may think about a particular individual and the overall portrayal of that individual acting on behalf of the beliefs of the electoral public.
WENDY: I agree and I am trying to force myself to be optimistic about that. I am trying to see the human being there and hope that he may have some true inspiration about his position. I wouldn’t want to be in his position.
KRIS: There will be some interesting challenges in the next few years.
WENDY: I would love it if you would comment on that some more.
KRIS: Unfortunately, we do not wish to give away all of the treasures. But this event may very well galvanize the American public and the global community in ways it has never seen before, and though…..
WENDY: The election you’re talking about?
KRIS: Indeed.
WENDY: Okay. Go on, please…
KRIS: And though some people would agree that there is an imbecile sitting in the White House Oval Office, no one yet has ventured to explore the possibilities that in spite of all appearances, the general well being and fulfillment of the American people and the global community may still be able to blossom, and that is where reality creation does come about.
WENDY: Thank you for saying that because I really have been trying to concentrate in that direction. And it’s hard.
KRIS: We understand this in this manner. If you are asked to describe an elephant but all that you can see of it is the end of its trunk or the end of its tail, you cannot get an accurate picture.
WENDY: Interesting that you picked an elephant!
KRIS: But… if you can step back sufficiently to give yourself a panoramic view of the entire beast, then you may begin to understand not only the anatomy but its locale and its habits and how it fits into its environment. It is a matter of perspective and trusting that the deepest aspects of your own essence know what they are doing, and you always are where you are supposed to be. Does that make some sense?
WENDY: Yes, and I appreciate that. I love the assurance.
KRIS: Elephant or not.
WENDY: So we are seeing one aspect of the beast here.
KRIS: Definitely.
WENDY: And it’s not necessarily a bad beast.
KRIS: Definitely.
WENDY: And perhaps a precursor to better times.
KRIS: At least the beginnings of a foundation that will bring about a sense of accomplishment as time flows.
WENDY: I’d like to ask you what you think of what I’ve been thinking about this, which is that I feel that the people, the populace who voted for Bush, and more than half of us did, that voted….I feel that they are kind of clinging to something that is going to pass, that is going to BE the past, and that they are closing their eyes to the future, but the future will come nevertheless. And they feel that they need more time to prepare for it.
In the meantime I’m very heartened by how many people came together to try to move things in a different direction now, the coalition that tried to defeat Bush. And I feel that it is more organized, that there are a lot of us that are here to stay, that eventually things are going to change. That’s kind of the way I’ve been thinking about it.
KRIS: Consider two different weather fronts, each going about their merry way, weathering here and there. You yourself may not necessarily develop much of an awareness of either weather front of their own, but when the two weather fronts meet and cause some degree of atmospheric disturbance, that is where you feel the disturbance the most, at the meeting point, which causes a variety of stresses within the atmosphere. Do you understand?
WENDY: Yes.
KRIS: Similarly, both camps generated sufficient charges, in a manner of speaking, to create an amalgamation that has left the population somewhat dazed…
WENDY: (laughing)…yes!
KRIS: …and as such has caused a great deal of introspection. And whatever introspection is occurring at the level of the ego construction, is in some ways minimal compared to what can only be called the unconscious weather fronts when they meet; and how these unconscious subjective processes filter out all of the material raised by this storm, so that eventually you have generated sufficient ideas to help create a new foundation.
Imagine another analogy: that if you clear the riverbed of all the debris and accumulations, you will naturally muddy the waters for some time until the flow clears all the debris that has been brought to the surface, until everything settles again.
WENDY: I like that. That sounds good.
KRIS: Indeed. So do trust that All That Is knows how to bring about long-term value fulfillment, not immediate value fulfillment. Remember that what you create today influences tomorrow.
WENDY: In the short term there is one thing I’m worrying about, and maybe worrying it just makes it worse, but I am a little worried about the violence that’s going on in the Middle East, and potentially here if people get really upset. Is that going to subside? Or is there something to do about that?
KRIS: We believe there will come a point with the present administration where these wrinkles will be ironed out. One way you can help yourself is to take a vacation from the media, which sometimes go out of their way to sensationalize even the smallest tidbits of news and blow things out of proportion.
WENDY: You’re probably right. That’s probably a good idea.
KRIS: Indeed.
WENDY: It’s my habit to pay a lot of attention right now and maybe it would be a good idea to change that.
KRIS: This specific electoral campaign has also brought to the forefront of awareness where people’s beliefs are.
WENDY: Yes.
KRIS: Those who are savvy, those who are belief savvy will recognize this event for what it is and be able to deal with the causal events within their own psyches and act accordingly to redirect the flow of their convictions in a constructive manner.
WENDY: In other words, even for each individual, it helps them to recognize their beliefs.
KRIS: Indeed.
WENDY: And we can redirect our energy once we do this.
KRIS: You are correct. For someone to bemoan the results and not take stock, not take inventory of their own belief systems, where they concentrate their energy, is hopeless.
WENDY: I agree.
KRIS: This is an incredible opportunity for the collective of the people, American or otherwise, to reflect and to make those changes that are necessary.
WENDY: It has seemed to galvanize the global community.
KRIS: More so than any other event in American history.
WENDY: Really!?
KRIS: There are millions of people worldwide watching in anticipation. There will come a time in human history in the future where local and country governments will not be chosen merely by the people within their boundaries and over time this may even change further to what you may call a global government that is fair and equitable and accountable. That is not for your lifetime.
WENDY: Boo-hoo!.
KRIS: Not THIS lifetime. (Wendy laughs.) You may very well create another focal personality to check up on your old friends.
WENDY: Well, still it is interesting to be part of this process because things are clearly changing. But it’s hard. I guess we’re impatient. My feeling is that we need to be patient in the true sense of the word.
KRIS: Your greatest tool in this area is to recognize that you always see what you believe in. That is a double-edged comment. It cuts both ways.
WENDY: Do you care to elaborate a little more on that?
KRIS: Indeed. What you see now is part of the beliefs that you entertain, the convictions that you adhere or subscribe to. At the same time, instilling new beliefs, new convictions, not simply new wishes but new convictions, will enable you to then see those convictions made manifest. Do you follow?
WENDY: I do and it leads to another question. What are we doing when we are instilling new convictions? How does that come about? I often have things in my life that I don’t like and I want to change them and I want to believe something else, and I find it’s not that easy. So what exactly is this process of changing convictions or beliefs?
KRIS: Indeed. The difficulty is often from many sources that are perhaps even very similar one to the other, and people often do not quite understand the nature of their beliefs. For instance, take again the present administration and its representative, Mr. Bush. Some people are convinced that all he stands for is murder and greed and exploitation.
WENDY: Yeah.
KRIS: And they do think that this is not where they are at. Do you follow?
WENDY: Yes I do.
KRIS: And because they do not see where their beliefs are at, they become confused because he has now a second term office. However, this is not all the man stands for. The general population has voted him in. Does everyone who has voted for Mr. Bush hold murderous intent? Indeed not. There are a great many Americans who believe that he can also speak strongly for the great many varied voices of the American public.
WENDY: I agree.
KRIS: Therefore they who are disheartened may not be able to see anything else about the present administration and its head, its puppet. They may not even be aware of their other convictions that they hold onto.
WENDY: Unconsciously?
KRIS: Indeed. The majority of people, even those who have studied conscious creation and other related literature for years, sometimes are barely of the aware of the contents of their own mind and only marginally aware of some of the thoughts that they entertain, which are indicative of their beliefs.
WENDY: Right. I certainly am often unaware of my deepest convictions. But really all we have to do is look around and we will see evidence of our deepest convictions. Is that correct?
KRIS: Absolutely. The physical world is a very good gauge for your convictions. Everything that you hold onto unconsciously, to define the term, is materialized for you. You basically, when you look out the window from your living room and you see the street, the houses and in the distance you may even perceive another city, and that you know that over the horizon there is an entire continent and oceans and mountains and millions of people living in their house the same that you do, you are looking into yourself, or at least a portion of self. Do you follow?
WENDY: Yes, it’s every evocative. Thank you.
KRIS: It is quite possible that some part of yourself might be at odds with other parts. In other words you may, as well as millions of others, hold conflicting beliefs, which is actually the standard. No one holds clear black and white belief structures. You always hold onto a mixture of convictions in many different areas, and all of these conviction weather fronts meet each other and create that psychological stress which causes action to take form into physical reality, and before your eyes, your unconscious is delivered for you to see and examines.
WENDY: Actually sometimes it leaves me unable to act, because I do become aware of the conflicts within myself. It renders me…still.
KRIS: Then when you become aware of exactly those conditions, you may still take action, but by ever so slightly extricating yourself from the situation. For instance, if you wish to see the entire forest, you must somehow or other find a vantage point that allows you to see.
WENDY: To look at my beliefs, to look at myself.
KRIS: If you are talking about a forest and if you are in the forest, you cannot see the forest because there are trees. Correct?
WENDY: Yes.
KRIS: If you want to see the whole forest, find a vantage point that allows you to do that. You are to remove yourself from within the forest to be able to see the forest. In terms of conflicting convictions, switch your perspective.
Are you in your living room right now?
WENDY: I am.
KRIS: Indeed. You can see out the window.
WENDY: I can.
KRIS: Now, do this small exercise. Do you have a small table not far from you, three or feet from you?
WENDY: I do, I have one right next to me actually.
KRIS: Indeed. Look at it. Examine the details. See its shape, its colors, its paint, its varnishes, its legs. Do you have all of that?
WENDY: Yes.
KRIS: Indeed. Now look at, not out of, look at the window of your living room. See the frame. See the panes of glass. Do you see the wall?
WENDY: Yes.
KRIS: Now go back to the table.
WENDY: Okay.
KRIS: Now go back to the window and notice what occurs when you switch your perspective. There is a definite feeling of action. Do you understand?
WENDY: Yes.
KRIS: Now, go back to the table.
WENDY: Okay.
KRIS: Move your sight to the window and then look out the window into the distance.
WENDY: Okay.
KRIS: Come back to the window and to the table. Did you notice how changing your visual perspective also had an effect upon your physical and subjective self?
WENDY: Yes, I did.
KRIS: Keep this small apparently benign exercise in mind for it can be exceedingly useful and practical, very pragmatic. We call it the Practice of Perspectives. Utilizing such an apparently benign practice can have far reaching effects into varying subjective states.
WENDY: I’m going to remember that. I have a question on a little bit different subject.
KRIS: Indeed. But before we move on, when you feel those inner stresses that can indicate to you that you are becoming aware of perhaps divergent or even conflicting sets of convictions and you feel the old pattern of freezing like a deer in the headlights.
WENDY: Yeah.
KRIS: Remember the exercise in perspective.
WENDY: I shall. Thank you.
KRIS: Another way to use this exercise: imagine in your mind’s eye barely inches from your nose you see a picture, an image. What image comes up? Is it a cat?
WENDY: (laughing) A cat just jumped in the window near me!
KRIS: Indeed. Imagine in your mind’s eye right near your nose there is the image of this cat.
WENDY: Ok…she sometimes is right there.
KRIS: Indeed. Now imagine that this image of the cat can be moved away towards the window. Of course, being at a different perspective, the cat has become smaller.
WENDY: Right.
KRIS: Now take the same image of the cat, and just as you did before project it way out beyond the window into the horizon. Now of course, the cat would be almost imperceptible. Correct?
WENDY: Yes.
KRIS: Now let that image go. Now when you sense complex or even discordant situations that bother you because they feel overwhelming and too close to you…..Do you understand?
WENDY: Yes.
KRIS: Take a picture of it in your mind’s eye and engage the “Practice of Perspectives”.
WENDY: Let it jump out the window.
KRIS: Bring it several feet from your face. Imagine it is that far away. And notice how you feel physically and mentally at that moment. And then take that same image and project it out the window towards the horizon. Notice how you feel physically, mentally, psychologically, emotionally, the entire subjective gamut.
WENDY: You know it’s very much of a relief to let something move further away.
KRIS: Indeed. Anything that causes you to freeze up emotionally or any other way, engage the “Practice of Perspectives” and shift the perspective until you feel that you can move again, that there is freedom for action. Do you follow?
WENDY: Yes, that is very, very helpful.
KRIS: It is a potent tool.
WENDY: Yeah, it is.
KRIS: And we can assure you, learning to practice will give you proficiency, make it easier for you to deal with almost any situation that arises. It is not foolproof, but it will prove useful and beneficial.
WENDY: Thank you.
KRIS: Now. Move your perspective back to your question.
WENDY: This question is actually partially involving someone else. I wouldn’t have thought of it at all if he hadn’t talked to me. You have done some sessions for a man named Paul G.
KRIS: Indeed.
WENDY: And in one of those sessions, his most recent one I guess, you told him that an essence named Jade was trying to contact him for an energy exchange. Is this correct:
KRIS: Indeed.
WENDY: He put that out on some of the lists I’m on, and the reason I picked up on it is because you had told me that MY essence name is Jade.
KRIS: Indeed.
WENDY: So I’m just curious if I’m involved in this somehow…or my essence…
KRIS: We believe that there is an association between the two of you through essence, but it does not necessarily mean that you are being cheated upon.
WENDY: (laughs) I don’t feel that way. ..I don’t really feel anything about it except when he mentioned it, I don’t know him at all except from his participation on some email lists, and when he mentioned it I did sort of try to feel into it and I felt some empathy or something, some simpatico about some of the stuff that we’re interested in as far as this information. He often asks scientific questions and they always interest me, and so in a way I feel that he speaks for a part of me. That’s as far as I’ve gotten with it.
KRIS: That would be fairly accurate, but you do not need to worry that your essence is sleeping around.
WENDY: (laughing) Well the way that I understand it, we’re the ones who are sleeping around. We have more than one essence and go from one to the other.
KRIS: Jade has, just as you, friendships and affiliations with others and we believe there is a portion of your essence that has an interest in this man’s projects and may wish to share some information.
WENDY: I mean…that feels right to me.
KRIS: And there are times when the physical individuals may even dislike each other or there are times when they actually have a genuine liking for each, but these are merely reflections of ego construction beliefs and have nothing to do with the wider spectrum of essence interactions.
WENDY: So he’s not a focus of Jade.
KRIS: Indeed not. But his essence has an affiliation with yours. Consider for instance that your friends may have friends that you do not know, outside of their interaction with you. Does that make some sense?
WENDY: Yes.
KRIS: In that same manner essences may have friendships that have nothing to do with the physical individuals themselves. Do you understand?
WENDY: Yes, in this case though Jade has kind of a friendship with Paul, or an interest in Paul’s projects.
KRIS: Indeed.
WENDY: And wants to help him.
KRIS: That is correct.
WENDY: That’s really nice.
KRIS: Whether the exchanges are successful or not is another issue.
WENDY: He’s having dreams.
KRIS: And that is where it should be.
WENDY: Okay. I guess he’s good at remembering his dreams and stuff.
KRIS: He is getting better.
WENDY: Well, he’ll be happy to have this information. I’m happy to have it too. I think it’s very interesting. You are giving more and more information about essences and focuses and it’s changing my concept of what a focus is and what an essence is.
KRIS: We seem to have that reputation.
WENDY: (laughs) You are a troublemaker! But not really.
KRIS: That has also been pointed out. Our intent, for the most part, is to help the individual fire up their brain cells, to kick-start those neurons and access, take advantage of, higher intelligences, the higher intellect. Thus sometimes there is a need to kick the individual in the seat of their complacency. Do you understand, even if only philosophical complacencies?
WENDY: Well, that can be very potent sometimes. Yes, I do understand. Do you have anything else to say about Paul and Jade and me?
KRIS: Not at this time.
WENDY: Okay. The last time that we spoke you talked a lot about self love and about me trying to be open to that, and I’m trying, but I feel like I’m not doing too well at it, or maybe it’s just that I’m not aware of progress that I’m making. I feel a little bit…floundering. Sometimes floundering is necessary. I’m just sort of not sure of what’s going on there.
KRIS: Where would you define your struggle at this time?
WENDY: I feel that my inability to really trust and love myself is holding me back and so I’m trying to do it, but it’s sort of a little bit I think, I’m pounding on myself about it.
KRIS: That inability is proportional to the distrust and to the discounting of self. Do you understand?
WENDY: Yes.
KRIS: Do know that you are not alone. Your Western Judeo-Christian world values are based upon that concept. Do you follow?
WENDY: I do. And I feel that I’ve been very involved in that in some of my focuses.
KRIS: Now. Consider that if you can discount and distrust yourself in that manner, it may very likely be that you are also able to love and honor yourself to the same if not to a greater degree even. Does that make sense?
WENDY: Yeah, it does.
KRIS: Once again use the “Practice of Perspectives”. Do not shorten it to a beautiful little abbreviation such as Double P.
WENDY: (laughing) Okay.
KRIS: Now back to more serious matters. Imagine that on one hand you have so many pounds and literally in one hand, the left hand, you hold so many pounds of discounting and distrust of self. And on the right hand you hold again so many pounds of trust, honoring, and loving. And take a moment to feel the weight of each, perhaps they also have texture and color and shape. Give them as much dimension as you want.
Now imagine that the contents of both hands are rising and they are again before your mind’s eye. Do you follow?
WENDY: Yes.
KRIS: See them carefully. Notice their dimensions, shape, weight, color, density and as you do so, you are able to shift your perspective towards the window with both items. Notice how you feel!
WENDY: Better.
KRIS: Now, allow those two shapes to move further away, out the window, out towards the neighborhood, out towards the horizon, to such a point where they are indistinguishable, and as those two shapes become so indistinguishable that they are as one, bring the palms of your hands together so that they are one too.
How do you feel?
WENDY: I feel good. I feel better.
KRIS: Indeed.
WENDY: Thank you.
KRIS: There is another method to use perspective as well. When you recognize, when you notice that you are in the forest of discounting and mistrust, that is simply because you have also forgotten to visit the forest of honoring and loving. So make an emotional and subjective act of changing the forest, literally and find yourself in the forest of loving and honoring and respecting. Does that make sense to you?
WENDY: It does. It sounds good.
KRIS: Whilst you do these small exercises, we suggest that you keep a small journal, notes on the thoughts that you entertain whilst you are in the forest of discounting and then whilst you are in the forest of honoring and loving. What do your thoughts indicate at those times? Keep notes. Understand that thoughts are communication. They let you know where yours state of mind is. Correct?
WENDY: Correct.
KRIS: That will indicate to you what beliefs, what forest of beliefs you have walked into, until such a time as the forest of discounting beliefs is of no consequence to you, you would rather walk through the forest of honor and loving trust.
WENDY: Okay, sounds good.
KRIS: This is a small exercise, but it will have an impact.
WENDY: I think so.
KRIS: And if at all possible, since this is a valuable tool, we suggest if possible that your session be transcribed for sharing, if you are in accord.
WENDY: Okay. Yes, the entire session?
KRIS: As much as you can.
WENDY: Okay.
KRIS: If you need assistance, Arindal may help.
WENDY: Yeah, that’s just what I was thinking. She’ll like that I think. She would probably like some of these exercises herself.
KRIS: Over the next while we will most likely share more.
WENDY: Good!
KRIS: Now may we inquire as to the time.
WENDY: It’s 2:27 my time, 5:27 your time. I think maybe Serge is getting worn out because I can hear him clearing his throat and coughing.
KRIS: There is still a slight physical discomfort.
WENDY: It’s okay with me to end.
KRIS: Indeed. Do you have another question?
WENDY: I just want to mention that I had a little discussion with you last time about Egypt and Israel and Moses, and you told me that Moses was actually an Egyptian pharaoh. And I’m in the habit of reading historical fiction and fantasy, and I encountered a book. I didn’t realize at first that the premise was exactly that, that Moses was an Egyptian pharaoh. In fact she said he was Akhenaton. I was just wondering if that is true?
KRIS: We do not believe, since Akhenaton’s body is available and Moses is not. Do you understand?
WENDY: You do not believe that’s the case.
KRIS: Indeed. However, Moses is pharaoh, but not Akhenaton.
WENDY: Okay. I wasn’t totally convinced by this, but it must made me laugh that I happened to pick up that book, that that book had that theory because I’ve never seen it before.
KRIS: Indeed.
WENDY: It was fun. Anyway, I’ll let you go and let Serge have a break, if you want.
KRIS: Indeed. And we thank you for having allowed us to express our most melodious voice.
WENDY: I very much appreciate it.
KRIS: We thank you for the time. With this we will return Joseph to you.
WENDY: Okay.

