Cluster Names and Kris Essence
April 12, 2004
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois
Transcribed by Serge J. Grandbois
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on April 12, 2004
© Copyright 2004 Avion Rising Inc.
Roll Call: Andrea, Lida and Mark
1st part – Inner Field of Events and Cluster Names
Monday April 12, 2004 – 7:25 PM
KRIS: Now it is our humble understanding that you have your gizmos (camcorder) in action again. Then it is our pleasure to ‘gizmo’ along with you. The events (in the past several weeks) that we have described are meant to give you certain indications as to the vast amount of possibilities inherently and innately contained within your experiences of creation and creating.
This may help you define the tools of consciousness and intent and we have described them just now as ‘events’ and those specifics in terms of what you are accustomed to in ever day life. You consider an event as something occurring outside or as what we have previously described as the ‘outer field of events’, without realizing there are as many if not even more categories of events in the ‘inner fields’. This is not limited to your concepts of selfhood. It is not limited to the physical materializations or events and conditions and circumstances as you know them.
For instance, varieties of wind in your reality are also considered events though you cannot see the wind, but you know of the wind by the degree of results that you classify from a zephyr to a high wind to a strong wind, up to hurricane force winds and each one will give you a very specific result. Does that make sense? (Yes).
Therefore there are events of another nature altogether. These events pertain to consciousness. These inner events again are not limited to your immediate subjective observations. They are not limited to your immediate psychic field but reach deep within in a manner of speaking, to the outer boundaries of your imagination forever leading you to discover new territory, in this case other varieties of consciousness and in this case we have been describing these clusters of consciousness which contain a great degree of events of an entirely different nature than what you are accustomed to.
Going to the opera is an event during your daily activities, going to the office, or going to the bathroom. It involves action and not all physical action has a physical event. All events have a source deep within what you refer to as the unconscious, or the inner self network all the way up to these clusters of consciousness and their transformative abilities from one layer to another are indeed of such precision that not one iota of energy is ever lost or misplaced or miscalculated. These things [misplacing or miscalculating] only happen when you consciously forget where you have put your reality!
Within these clusters then, there are many types of events occurring that are difficult to translate into words because at those levels there are no words yet. That occurs at your end of the spectrum. Just like immediately beyond your conscious perceptions, for instance in your dreams, the majority of these psychic psychological and emotional events pertain to imagery which you translate into words and syntax thereby necessarily censuring and removing certain of the images that may contain emotionally charged topics that you do not wish to deal with at any given time in terms of words. Do you still follow?
At those levels of Clusters, even imagery is very foreign. Consciousness at those levels has no conscious-like perception of your interpretations of those events. That is why we earlier used the analogy of wind, because in your terms wind is not seen but you know of its various effects upon your environment.
Another example also of the many and varied emotions that course through your being at any given time during the course of a day. You may feel the effects of anger or agitation, anxiety or joy, of love, fear and so on and so forth. But all of these are not tangible, but you certainly feel their effects within your body because each one in itself will release a specific type of hormone and chemical into your bloodstream and though some may be related to others, they still have enough differentiation that you can label and catalog them very nicely. That again is at your end of the bargain. But indeed what ‘are’ those energy packages that you then translate into the emotions that trigger your beliefs, your reactions, your thoughts?
Now they do this [trigger] because they are intimately tied to or related and even engendered by your convictions and indicate what type of conviction they are related to. This is another small example of the currents of energy that can flow through your psyches and you can identify them because you have labeled them but to their specific source they are very different.
But you enjoy or not the end result, the product of, the effect of that energy within your field. Therefore at these other levels, within the clusters there are definite exchanges. There is definite movements and events occur at those levels but in terms that are utterly intangible to your perception, though you may feel some of the effects down the line. And this is not to say that you much slavishly suffer the effects and the result of those events as if they are imposed upon you, but instead they are lived by you because of your own connections to those energy patterns, those living sentient energy patterns at those levels. Do you follow? (Yes).
Now we believed you mentioned earlier also that all systems are open, and indeed they are. It is conceivable that the different families’ trademarks are shared with others. There is no proprietorship in that context. There are again exchanges as befits the flow of each individual focus personality, the selves that you know in your context.
And the permutations are indeed considerable if you examine the arrangements possible within these nine families of consciousness. They are indeed transformers of these raw elements of consciousness, but there are not jealousy guarded family secrets. All exchanges are given freely within the context so derived and there are still other types of exchanges that occur between the different clusters themselves, though they would be most certainly incomprehensible at your end of the bargain.
Different clusters have different purposes. Some indeed generate far more families of consciousness than the TAAJ we described last evening (last week) some have less depending upon the intent of the cluster and the arrangements that are organized with their unique family perspectives. Some are focused entirely in different types of reality creation projects that would make absolutely no sense to you.
It would not even register upon your synaptic perceptions, being so foreign or alien to you, though there are times when some of that still mingles with the energies contained within the TAAJ from others. So you may end up perceiving a small slice or spark of that foreign energy and in your terms interpret it perhaps as an alien visitation or a peeking into an alien dimension.
As we have described there are at least 17 such clusters within a specific field. There are more, and beyond those fields there other types of events and actions. So that also means that the clusters are not themselves the originators of their own elements. We are speaking here of a type of sentient gestalt-hood that is truly incomprehensible even to Itself. It has been referred to as ALL THAT IS.
Perhaps we can name some of the other clusters. As to their specific generalized intent that may come at another time. These are not simple processes to describe, because as we have indicated a few moments ago, many of these types of events are not easily recognizable by your own perceptions. But we know of their existence. There are rumors (said with great humor).
Sometimes we may exchange amongst our own kind our own types of ghost stories. You are not the only who trade ghost stories. Now the only difference in some ways is that our ghosts are more cosmic.
Now we have described the TAAJ, which is directly feeding your grouping of the nine families. We could consider that the TAAJ is fifth of the 17 clusters so far. Its closest neighbor so to speak, because we are describing a constellation of consciousnesses here, its closest neighbor within its orbit we call the Ulal. You may spell that U L A L. If you wish you may even put that pretty little crescent shape over the U.
This cluster has at least 27 families within it. Their engagement is slightly similar to the TAAJ and its families, but at a level of precision that is different than the activities performed by the 9 families contained within the TAAJ. They may even generate different types of dimensions, different species of intent. The Ulal would then be 6th of 17.
4th of 17 would be your other neighbor so to speak. This one we call the MYR. You may spell that M Y R. The MYR cluster has only 12 families within it and again, their direct intent and purpose is slightly different.
Third of 17 we call the AMOOL (A M O O L). The AMOOL is engaged in a totally different type of reality construction again as each one is, and this particular one is engaged in what you would consider an entire gambit of non-physical realities where from your perspective for example, everything would be out of focus because the rods and cones in your eyes would not be able to interpret the rapid pulsations of the particles that compose the matter, or “their kind of matter” and the realities they are engaged in creating. In that particular experimentation, they also do not relegate themselves to the specific types of gender experimentation used in your reality for example. It could be said that they are self procreating individuals.
Now we believe this is sufficient for the time being and we call for a small break.
Second section of the evening: Kris, Joseph and Serge Energy Exchange April 12, 2004
8: 00 PM
KRIS: Now we have numbered them only for your references’ sake, for we are well aware that there will be some people who will say: “Ah, the number 1 cluster must be the preferred cluster to belong to”. Now we challenge you to find a moving company (so you can move there).
(Great all we need is cluster wars – Mark laughing)
Now, again, we are only numbering and naming them for the sake of references, for obviously they do not have such systems.
(So at break Andrea asked the question: “Are we only participating in the TAAJ”?)
KRIS: Yes mostly, but not exclusively. There, no system are closed, so you do have some bleed-through occurring within all of the systems and these are sometimes perceived by essences at that time or not. Even you yourselves as conscious beings may perceive inner events again such as an unidentified flying object or a lost world or civilization that appears in your dimension, sometimes to disappear again, such as the legendary Machu- Pichu, such as some of the other Pyramids on the great plateau of Gizah, that have not appeared yet, that may indeed appear in the near future… (but) not tomorrow! There is no need to take a plane.
Now these have to do with your collective beliefs, about your abilities to see and live and experience more reality that you do now. So all systems are open to a certain degree and some may perceive these truths and some maybe never will, depending upon the intent and the capacity of the essence down to the focus personality to deal with and play with those concepts.
Then you may even, in terms of essence, you may even recognize that you have some distant relative that went and married off into some other cluster, with another family so you might occasionally receive a visiting invitation. Thus there are excursions that may go from TAAJ to another, but these are not standard, they are special occasions because of course there are no Greyhound bus lines It is done through a process of intent merging. Now for the time being we hope that this information will fuel your imagination even more.
Keep in mind that these are merely descriptions that are intended to help you perceive and map out other areas of consciousness, help give you a taste of the more exotic nature of the far flung corners of Inner Galaxies, meant to entice to explore beyond your regular boundaries of consciousness perception.
Now if any of you have any other questions??
MARK: Regarding Paul’s? Paul’s first question: Since you said last week that your primary Family of consciousness intent is Sumafi and Joseph’s is Sumari, it would seem to me that Kris and Joseph’s phenomena is an energy exchange or is it channeling?
No 2, would you detail a bit more about the choice of channeling or energy exchange or your own variation, and the role of distortion in the information you offer?
KRIS: Indeed… as Joseph has already explained, channeling [the word] is used because it is a common vernacular, it is immediately understood by others and gives a specific point of reference. As we have explained last fall our energy exchange is of a synergistic nature with Joseph so there is a sharing exchange. This is our preferred method of functioning at this time. It may suit other essences as well, and not others too.
We function within the parameters allowed us by Joseph and the focus personality you know as Serge. Otherwise it would be a complete intrusion and not viable, because then the material would be distorted to such a degree as to make it incomprehensible other than the ‘gobble de gook’ that you have already running rampant in your societies with all types of religious overtures.
This is a growing process. So this synergy “allows” Joseph’s objective perceptions to open up to a high degree that enables his subjective perception to exchange with us. That enables a linking and a trading of perceptions, further enabling our discussions, our thoughts, our points of view to be expressed with as little distortion as possible, though some always comes through.
The description [translation] of consciousness into syntax alone ‘immediately implies’ a specific level of distortion. It is like translating Mandarin or Cantonese or Sanskrit to someone who has a limited vocabulary. Therefore certain expressions and conceptualizations within each of these languages has to be minimized. But we have found that the personality that Joseph has been evolving through time and space in a non-linear fashion has enabled him to be receptive to these types of exchanges. They have been agreed upon as yours (Mark) has. That alerted us a long time ago in your terms that there was a process here that would culminate in this type of exchange. We had Joseph’s permission then to nudge and nurture the type of presentation that is now given.
The exchange occurs then between “ourselves” and Joseph, and Serge as the focus personality accepts to step aside for a period of time. Though some would call it channeling and some call it an essence exchange, in our perspective it is less important than establishing a good rapport that enables the flow of information with all of its intensities in whatever degree allowed. It makes for better communication, and the end result must come through the intent projected through each and every word we try so carefully to construct into the imagery that comes to your mind when you read or hear the words. And how that imagery is filled with imbedded concepts that then literally release themselves into your psyche, urging you on to discover the great reality that you are! That is our answer.
We hope that this is a clear answer.
You have some other question?
ANDREA: You mention Kris that sometimes we take excursions into other clusters. Would the people know about it?
KRIS: The personality structure would have to be refined enough to not automatically censure recall of that excursion, though there may still be some remnants. For instance, you would know that a wedding occurred at a given place by the confetti that is around the area. Certain dream recall might be that type of psychological confetti but there is to be an understanding as to its nature.
Perhaps images and impressions in the dream state that appear truly foreign and would therefore be categorically censured might give pause to an individual that has developed sufficient awareness to consider that perhaps this is not mere psychological confetti but the results of an inner event, in the same manner that seeing confetti on the ground may indicate that a wedding has occurred here. It requires practice and a certain type of joyous discipline that cultivates a deeper understanding of the stuff left in your mind when you awaken from a dream.
Does this make sense?
ANDREA: Yes it does. It is just a few people who have that experience?
KRIS: In different times and circumstances there are those brave souls who do venture out to other clusters, to gather information that may challenge their own understanding and they do this on behalf of the collective. For instance at the beginning the Renaissance, great thinkers and geniuses started cropping up, great men and women of talents hardly seen for centuries took birth.
These individuals, these rare souls belong to specific families of consciousness which found ties to other clusters that would enable excursions into those other clusters which would give additional, supplementary energies translated into the clusters, then translated by the essences and then the focus personalities. So what you saw come out of the Renaissance was indeed a few pieces of confetti, but not the whole bag, if that makes some sense.
LIDA: Do they always return back or do some get lost (or may never return)?
KRIS: No one ever gets lost. And do keep in mind it is not only essences of this TAAJ cluster that visit others. Some from other clusters visit your TAAJ. So there are exchanges in their cluster domains that engender their own types of Renaissances.
MARK: Do these usually happen at transformational points in civilizations of something?
KRIS: Very often, and your physical reality IS poised on the edge of your own Renaissance or secondary Renaissance. So your societies will eventually change, individuals will grow in awareness, there will be more conscientious relationship with the earth, and with other individuals. This takes time.
And yet, at the level of Essence, this has already occurred in as many permutations as the imagination can carry and then some more. This has already occurred and then your gradual moving from the edge into your Renaissance creates yet a new one. Because one has already occurred, that has already occurred, that has already occurred, so there is still a new one occurring all the time. Your growth is never static but always changing.
Now if your still have some fuses left in your brain, we can continue.
[There is a question here that wasn’t clearly picked up on the recorder due to it being too softly spoken]
KRIS: Do keep in mind that you are speaking from the focus personality’s point of view. There is still so much more within the TAAJ that in specific terms, it would take a long time. But there are again exceptions to every rule and depending on the specific intent of an essence there can be trades so to speak, one from another cluster may wish to alter their particular intent in a specific manner and if there are compatibilities then there may be that type of extra curricular exchanges.
Much like if you went to University aiming for a specific curriculum and then you realized that the opportunity with one University will not completely fulfill your curriculum but another (University) may. There may very well be a student exchange with one whose curriculum fits in with your University.
There may be this type of trading at that level but it is not that you will actually pack your bags and travel as much as you will simple change the focus of your essence intent and then be… you see this is where syntax falls short. We may use such common words as ‘you will vibrate’, ‘you will transform’ or ‘you will appear’. These fall far short of the true nature of the event from being within one cluster and then being in another simply by the nature of your intention. But these will have to suffice till we invent an appropriate word!
MARK: So on the level of essence, our essences, obviously if there is no closed systems, how much of that information is understood, how much of essences in the cluster of TAAJ understand what is happening in the AMOOL?
KRIS: Most likely as much as what is occurring in another part of the world through your media networks. So it gives you a very good indication.
MARK: Because obviously if I wanted to trade with another, I have to be aware.
KRIS: There is awareness just like you are aware of all of the life forms of this one singular planet, this small pebble on the great scale of the celestial bodies, just like a musician is aware of all of the notes and all of the scales of all of the instruments in the orchestration, but the drummer will not hit the notes that pertain to the flute, or any other instrument, but will do so in tandem, but will do so in orchestration.
Therefore, though you might be aware of all of the forms and all of their thoughts, however human or otherwise, you are not necessarily focused upon those thoughts at any given time or in all time, but you have a degree of awareness. Similarly essence may indeed have a much wider spectrum of awareness but **** (can’t make out the word here) with those focuses of attention in time, in its own time, in your terms.
MARK: Just as I don’t pick up the newspaper daily but when I want to its there for the reading.
KRIS: Indeed. So there are exchanges of events and newsworthy items on that respect. Information is never lost, never misplaced, never disrupted or thrown away. Everyone is aware of it but it is not needed to be acted upon specifically, and it is not the kind of information that you get in your Enquirer! (laughter).
No amounts of… all the media that exchanges information on your planet still pales in comparison with even small amounts of information exchanged at those levels of essence, because it is not compartmentalized, not separated into sentence and syntax structures but it is the exchange of raw concepts.
Here in your reality, to describe the world in order to understand it, you have to take it piecemeal, you have to have to small descriptions tied to larger descriptions tied to larger descriptions and some of that may only explain to you small drops in a pond, never mind a pond in a city, that is in a country that is on a continent that is on a planet that is in this solar system. Yet from the perspective of Essence, WE will have no difficulty in explaining the content of that drop by delving into every iota of the atomic structure of entire Universes because they are contained in the same concept. That makes sense. (Yes).
And no way have we ever considered the moon to be made of cheese, though some peoples’ description of the moon and other planets can be quite cheesy!
Any other questions at this time?
No.
KRIS: Then we will take our leave of your lovely selves and may you enjoy your adventures in consciousness. They have only begun yet they have been lasting an eternity. So you enjoy whichever end of the spectrum you find yourself at.
Our Families of Consciousness
April 5, 2004
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois
Transcribed by Mark C. Bukator
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on April 5, 2004
© Copyright 2004 Avion Rising Inc.
Roll Call: Andrea, Lida and Mark
Mark’s Notes: Our beloved friend, Paul Helfrich in Castaic California had sent me an email detailing three questions that he wanted me to ask Kris. The questions were based on the material that Kris had delivered the previous Monday and earlier. I read the questions aloud to Andrea and Lida who both thought that the questions were extremely well thought out. We all agreed that the first question potentially could take weeks if not months to properly answer.
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7:40 PM
KRIS: Welcome again. A most pleasant evening. Now we believe that you have some questions from a far off land.
MARK: Yes, would you like me to repeat them?
KRIS: Indeed.
MARK: The first one and for the record these are from Paul Helfrich, he says:
Question #1 – “Hi Kris. You recently mentioned 17 or so clans or clusters of consciousness that relate to, among other things, Seth’s and Elias’ families of consciousness. If I understand you so far, the “families” are one clan or cluster. You also made a distinction between inner selves and higher selves, and it seems to me that you’re beginning to outline a map of the “higher selves” region of consciousness as it relates to our physical experience. Will you please provide specific names or zones or regions or tone for these clans or clusters? And detail each one?”
MARK: Question number two?
KRIS: The first question may have to wait as it will take some of your time to extrapolate.
MARK: Yes, we predicted that. < laughter> Question number two:
Question #2 – “Within the “families of consciousness” concept, Seth says he belongs to Sumari intention. Elias says he belongs to Sumafi intention (as they express themselves in our physical system). What families do you (Kris), Serge, and Mark belong to?
And then, as a follow up, Elias makes a distinction that Seth didn’t, and not because one is wrong and the other right, but more that Seth laid a foundation and Elias has built upon it. That is, Elias’ refinement claims that our inner self region BELONGS TO one of the nine family intents, and EACH focus personality ALIGNS WITH a family intent. What’s your perspective on these matters?
And then perhaps we can tackle both the second and third question as one discussion since it would fall under the precepts that we have been dealing with up to now”.
KRIS: Certain things have to be tied together here and it must be understood that our description of the Nine Sisters do not pertain or relate specifically to nine families of consciousness though the elements of the Nine Sisters themselves may be easily identified through the various families of consciousness. Do you understand?
Now, another item that needs to be brought out is that in the Seth material there is a brief discussion on a specific topic that was not necessarily developed to any great length. In fact in many places in the Seth material this has been a pattern and it was specifically done to bring about further discussions by others whose melodious voice would carry this song of consciousness. Do you follow?
Yes.
One such topic is referred to by Seth as “Life Clouds” or “Dream Clouds”. These contain in a certain way the raw, psychic psychological and intentional elements that are used through the intents of the families of consciousness as they pertain to the construction and the manifestation of consciousness into matter through your physical reality, through physical reality as you know it. Elias also defines that the nine families of consciousness are as appropriate to physical reality as you know it.
Now, what we are presenting through these clans or clusters of consciousness takes it into the realm as what Seth describes as Life or Dream Clouds that contain the elements through which planes and dimensions and worlds are seeded, are created and this has nothing to do with the chemical composites as you understand it or even the elements of air, water, earth and fire but rather the pure psychological energy based elements which are not identifiable through your table of elements as in chemistry for instance. They have nothing to do with that.
These elements are of such nature that they can not produce by themselves unless there is an intervention of another kind of intent, if you will a sort of or type of filter that gives a particular direction, a nudge, molds that energy for a specific intent and this is where the families of consciousness come into play. Do you follow so far?
As we have suggested we will not get into the naming. That will take some time but the source selves or the essence does indeed pertain to specific families and the focus personality, the selves that you know in the physical term also align with a particular intent of its own thereby creating not only a juxtaposition [placed side by side or close together] but a compliment which gives a unique address from which you function in the physical world.
For instance, our own primary alignment is also Sumafi. We will design secondary and tertiary alignments. Our own secondary is Sumari and tertiary alignment is Milumet.
MARK: How do you spell that?
KRIS: You have to look it up in the book, we believe that it is spelled M I L U M E T. This is for our own purposes. Now Joseph’s and your own are slightly different because you function also with focus personality intent. Your own selves are driven by value fulfillment within certain areas. Joseph’s for instance also aligns with Sumari BUT also with Gramada as a secondary adjunct and a tertiary adjunct with Tumold.
We view this in this manner: All individuals have more than one social function. For instance, an individual may spend most of his day as “management in the government”. Whilst he is not in that capacity, functioning, then he is both husband and father at home. Each one fits perfectly in his reality, do you understand?
(Yes, very much).
And you for instance [pointing at Mark (Philip)] have a primary essence also Milumet, secondary adjunct Vold and tertiary adjunct Gramada. These give your personalities a great deal of leeway and none of these primary, secondary, tertiary are fixed in stone. (spoken slowly and loudly). You may also change your adjunct by the intent that you bring forth at different times in your life but these are the three primes at this point. Do you understand? [Pointing at Mark].
MARK: Yes I do.
KRIS: This is how we understand, divide and explore the values inherent in each of these passages. Now to bring that back to the clusters of consciousness, your own primary, secondary, tertiary adjuncts interpret specific meaning to the power and the raw elements of consciousness as these different clusters each express and all of the nine families of consciousness as such belong to one cluster. Each cluster having its own associations of families of consciousness, not that the nine families of consciousness related to your physical reality experience are specifically bound to that one cluster. There may also be exchanges within depending on the needs, the conditions and the circumstances of consciousness. Does that make some sense to you?
Now if we were to name your specific clustering we would indeed refer to it as the TAAJ. If you need a spelling it could be T double A, J.
MARK: As in the Taj Mahal?
KRIS: Now Netjer for instance represents one of the consciousness elements recombined with its own unique perceptions within the TAAJ. Do you follow?
So that will give Paul much food for thought. As we hinted at previously, these clusters are represented and interpreted in different fashions. Last session we associated them in one physical representation as many of the far off galaxies that are barely perceived, are settled on the outskirts of the known universe. Do you remember?
We also associated some of their elements with some of the very ancient and primordial gods and goddesses, those that give of themselves the very raw elements that make the forms and the matter of your world such as the night and the day, the Earth and the fire and the moon and the light, the creatures, the forms and the beings. Do you understand?
They may also represent in your world other aspects of consciousness, mixed in with your own but rarely seen or even understood as having any sentience at all but your perspective mechanism, your inner and outer senses and your critical facilities, your beliefs, your convictions, your intentions, etc. help sculpt consciousness into specific forms.
These are also extensions of the consciousness elements within clusters through the families through various aspects such as the Nine Sisters, through your personality blueprints, a structure of your personality, that in turn takes that energy even further, gives it even more specific definition, character and so on and so forth. And still you are each yourselves, each extensions, associated processes of consciousness, along this line that enables further and further exploration of consciousness into matter which includes the events and conditions and circumstances of life as well as all the other elements found within it.
Whether we describe nine sisters, nine families, clusters of consciousness and so on and so forth and assign them the specific areas or departments and so on and so forth, these definitions by themselves are merely to give you a specific reference point and hopefully trigger remembrance of your own roots, of your spiritual ancestry so to speak. Do you follow?
Now will that cover Paul’s two questions?
Mark: I believe so. If not I am sure that he can ask further questions later.
Indeed. Now we will take a small break.
8:02 PM Break Starts
Mark’s notes: While typing this transcript, I misspelled Milumet. I put a double T on the end by mistake. I noticed that Microsoft Word underlined it in red and when I went back and corrected it, it was no longer in red. I then went back and looked at all of the names of the nine families of consciousness and noticed that even though these are NOT words found in the dictionary ( I checked), they are found in Microsoft’s dictionary. One has to wonder if one or more of the individuals that compiled the MS dictionary were Sethians. If this is the case, it is too bad that these Sethians weren’t involved in the creation of MS Windows because then maybe it would be more user friendly.
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8:18 PM
KRIS: Now do keep in mind that these families, these clusters are not a religion that you join, nor a group or club that you belong to by acquiring a membership. You are a member due to deep seated psychological drives and intents within your own self, quite different from the qualities that you assign yourselves through your characteristics for instance. They still provide the raw elements upon which your own personalities relate and characteristics that emerge from which you sculpt or carve your physical world and your experiences within that world. That also provides you with a wide spectrum of possibilities for you are not eternally wed to any one specific family or clan.
You are participants in a manner in which your intent aligns you with theirs, thus providing further tools. These gestalts all function in support of each other, one building upon the capacities of the other, enabling each and every one of you to be able to tap into vast reserves or reservoirs of energy. We have said many times for instance that you are never truly bereft of tools. This doesn’t only apply to some of the critical faculties and intelligence factors within your brain or even your mind but transformative tools of intent that give meaning and value and fulfillment to your journey through time and space as you know it today.
And each of your own selves has access in their own fashion to all of the same banks of energy that you have and each of your own selves may have its own slightly different alignment still within your broad focus of your primary purpose. If you consider for instance when you use a graphics program on the computer, in order to manipulate color, in order to [then] print color, you need to use the basic color slides of CMYK. These slides allow you to play with the four primary color slides available through the computer, creating an unlimited number of shades of a whole spectrum of colors. Do you understand?
Thus you are able to combine and recombine many of the inner characteristics, the drives, the desires, the intents to achieve various goals, the more that you make yourself aware of this innate capability that the more you can realize on your own that regardless of the situation that you find yourself into, you have the means and the abilities to still continue making your choices, changing the direction of the momentum that you have just released and so on and so forth, giving you a great deal of tools and resources all at your disposal.
For instance, both of you [pointing at Andrea and her mother Lida] have many similarities and differences and you have surmised already that your lives are similar and complimentary and complimentary in a fashion that allows sufficient differences for each of you to grow. Do you understand?
Both of your primary source is Ilda in the families of consciousness with a secondary adjunct of Vold and a tertiary adjunct of Tumold and that you combined them in a slightly different manner, focusing on characteristics that make you both different and unique and yet share so many things. Do you understand?
Andrea and Lida in unison: YES.
And even though both of you have such similarities, primary, secondary and tertiary still you are not twins. You functions separately, individually and you play off each other. Does that make sense to you?
Nodding in unison: Uh huh.
MARK: Are you guys each other’s best friend?
LIDA: Yes.
KRIS: We could say that Andrea’s tertiary focus or adjunct flashes off of your [pointing at Lida] secondary and your secondary flashes off her primary, that way you are able to obtain a free flowing relationship so that there are conflicts of growth for growth, not against it. So you exert a certain tension between the two of you but it is meant for growth. Do you understand that?
Now, do you have another question? [pointing at Mark]
MARK:: I don’t specifically.
Actually I do and a strange one at that. Let’s take someone like Hitler for instance. What would his intents have been? What were his families? I know that this is a bizarre concept.
LIDA: Or how about Stalin?
[Mark’s notes: I had formulated this question earlier but had decided not to ask it. When Kris pointed at me the way he did it put me on the spot so to speak. I kept thinking to myself “Is there something that I am supposed to be asking”? “Am I missing something”?]
KRIS: We at this time would rather not explore those.
MARK: I don’t have any other questions at this time.
KRIS: Then we suggest that when you have time to explore these ideas and use the information as ‘stepping stones’ to understand the deeper layers of your personality which deal with elements slightly beyond the ego construction so that you can begin to explore yourselves in a manner that again is different and is not that different. Now do you have questions?
LIDA: How is it that you naturally get along with some people and don’t with other people. Does it mean that when you start a relationship that you are not compatible and that you don’t have a future with this person?
KRIS: Some individuals may actually mesh very easily. The interests, the chemistry, the drives seem to be deep and meaningful at that time and as life goes on each individual changes, is transformed by the events that they create for themselves and the avenues of life that they each explore. Other people may come together and very quickly sense they have no possibilities in this time for any relationship. There are many elements involved. There are reincarnational dramas, issues that are attempts to work out situations started in other lifetimes, unresolved issues for instance. Other situations may indeed be simply that only certain aspects of your personalities are able to mesh at this time but over all a future development is highly improbable because either you or the other may have their own personal unresolved issues or life paths that have not come to the surface at this time and may take and may literally be impossible to reconcile at a certain point. Do you also follow?
LIDA:: Yes, does it also mean that it will have to be resolved in the future?
KRIS: It depends what the two personalities work on these other or unconscious levels. There are times that even when a certain conflict is not resolved in this lifetime that there may not be the need to create a whole new set of lifetimes to try to resolve the issue. It may resolve itself in the dream states or after life states. There are occasions when issues between two people initially may also involve a larger number of people and those two people may decide that after they die to reincarnate and resolve it in a different manner because there are others involved and they too need to resolve their issues all together.
So there are great varieties of combinations and we should also point out that even when there is an issue that is resolved in an after life state, the very mere fact that wanting and desiring to resolve an issue creates lives, offshoots or fragments that for all intents and purposes for those focuses, the ensuing combinations and ramifications that allow for the working out of the issues may very well become lifetimes as you understand them, to those two personalities and no one else. Do you understand that?
[Pointing at Mark] Do you understand this also, Philip?
MARK: Yes. So there may have been in one particular lifetime, disputes or problems that are resolved after what we call death but still as a result of those there is a whole slew of reincarnations where those two work things out in different ways.
KRIS: Because they will each project energy to resolve an issue and that projection of energy, the projected aspects of the persona that will work on the issue, for them this is also as valid as your own, as physical as your own even though you may not consider them as physical lives. They may from your perspective only be dream lives. They may even be from your perspective only be ghostly images but to those personas their existence, their reality is just as real as your own but in a different frame of consciousness. Do you understand?
MARK: Yes, I believe that I do and I find it quite comforting.
KRIS: Again, look to your dreams where you may find yourself on a beautiful beach front in the Dominican Islands or some other beautiful tropical zone, admiring the coconut palms, the blue green of the ocean, the salty breeze, the warm sand and to that projection the environment is as REAL as your present physical environment here, regardless of how brief that projection’s reality is. For that projection there is an automatic, instantaneous creation of a past and a future and alternates, as compliments of its projection. This is done automatically, spontaneously due to simultaneous time and its auspices. Do you follow?
MARK: Just one example of this, of many, if there is somebody that you are in conflict with or estranged from or distanced from, in this relationship and you have a dream in which there is this person. It may not be THAT person but it IS that person. It might be somebody else or it may be an object or an animal but you still know that it is that person. That is a coming together in that stance to resolve your issues?
KRIS: Very often indeed.
MARK: That is just one example of many.
KRIS: Indeed. No system is ever separate from another. The separateness only exists in your own perceptions though in reality all systems are linked and there is a free flow of exchanges. There are associations made at those levels that are difficult to translate into your ideas of a singular and separate self because in reality you are not separate selves but you have individualism. Does that make some sense?
MARK: Yes it does.
KRIS: And again when you find yourself in a public place look about you and you may ask your inner selves or your inner eyes to look about and even though you may not be able to detect anything different at the physical level, you might even sense that many of the people milling about, say at the subway station may very well be projections of other individuals who are sleeping somewhere or day dreaming somewhere. Do you understand?
Whom is there and whom is where? Can anyone determine that?
MARK: Question. If we think of someone or dream of someone, whether familiar to us or not, is that always a communication with that other person on another level? Is there always, I’m not sure there is such a thing as ALWAYS but ….
KRIS: Sometimes you have to make some discernment. They may very well be presentations in a dream states that are your own issues. There are other times when you have visits from friends both physical and non-physical. You have all traveled through the corridors of time and space since time immemorial, it would stand to reason that you have over that period acquired friends who may not be physical in this experience but who may still contact you through the dream states and you only know them and recognize them as friends IN the dream states. They would not appear in physical reality and they will always be similar, just like in the dream state you may visit a house or a city that does not exist in the physical world but only in the dream reality, over and over again. You would only be conscious of that if you keep a dream record.
LIDA: why would you want to dream of the same place again and again and again?
KRIS: Perhaps it is a place where your consciousness goes because it is comfortable. Much like Homer Simpson always ends up at Moe’s. Do you understand? Perhaps other aspects of your personality end up in a very similar teaching environment, a classroom of some kind because this is where your consciousness learns certain things not available to it elsewhere. That knowledge may not be transformed or interpreted into physical terms but your consciousness understands and uses those lessons to enrich your lives much like you may go to a specific school for 9 or 10 or 15 years. Do you understand?
So consciousness knows its own place. Now if you have no questions we will leave you to ponder where your consciousness will end up tonight and if you join us for a drink, please say hello.
MARK: And vice-versa.
KRIS: And enjoy your evening and your families.
8:44 PM Session Ends
[Note: when I went to bed afterwards, somehow I could still feel an acceleration, as if Kris wasn’t finished with this particular session but I wasn’t able to get into it. When I awoke Tuesday morning, I found some sort of impression in my mental in-box. A note from Kris, letting me understand that though he explained about primary secondary and tertiary adjuncts to intent and focus aligning with Families of Consciousness, he didn’t want to make it more complicated than it already was.
However, from Kris’ perspective, the Essence intent and the focus alignment can have primary, secondary and tertiary alignments each. That would make 6 divisions of consciousness at play here in a manner that is complimentary at all levels.]
I am still trying to wrap my mind around that one! ~Serge
Inner Sound Dream
April 1, 2004
Early April 2004
Serge’s note: this dream from early April 2004 I found to be significant, as it occured at about the same time Kris started delivering his material on clusters, and eventually expanding his self-description as a ‘multidimensional personality structure’. Its almost as if on other levels some work had to be done in preparation. This is also just about 2 weeks before I go for a minor surgical procedure that ended up having serious complications, whit my not coming out of the anesthesia due to respiratory failure, which sometimes ends up in the dead of the patient. I was lucky.
In this dream, I found myself in an old school gymnasium, you know the kind, with the old stage up front, used for the school plays, general student meetings and so on, with the big thick red velvet type curtains in the back.
Suddenly I am on the stage with perhaps the school principle, a few other people, a full audience, and I am being introduced to a strange person. She sort of looks like an old Jane Roberts, but inside a young woman’s body, with strong spina bifida (curvature of the spine). She was both a young and older Jane Roberts, just shorter still.
I am being told by this school principal person that the young woman cannot talk (mute??), but that in a few moments she will sing. I sort of think to myself: “What? She is not able to talk, but she will sing??? How is that possible??
The Principle person explains that yes, but the way you can “hear” her sing is to close your eyes. Well, I don’t know about you, but this is getting weird, definitely weird. First, I am told she cannto talk, but she will sing, then I am told that yes, but to hear her I have to close my eyes??? What’s wrong with this picture?
However, I do as suggested and close my eyes. In a moment, I hear to most melodious sweet bell-like tone of voice express itself in a musical way I have never hear before. It is incredible, and getting better by the second.
So, being in a dream, all this is making me lucid. And as in any good dream worth its salt, even with my eyes closed, I desired to see, so I saw right through my closed eyelids. What I saw was SO incredible I just hope words will do it justice.
Right there before my closed eyelids, through which I could ‘see’ of course, was the most incredible scene. Now I understood why it was important for me to close my eyes, AND why the young woman who could not speak could sing so beautifully that it was now bringing tears to my eyes and washing my soul.
The young woman could not speak, because as soon as she opened her mouth, apparently only to sing.. and this WAS the way she spoke; as soon as she opened her mouth, ALL the air in her body would come out for her speak/singing. She kept her mouth closed unless she was signing because as soon as she opened her mouth, ALL the air would escape and her body would collapse.
Perhaps I should clarify. The only thing keeping her body looking somewhat like yours and mine was that it was inflated, an inflated body, inflated with powerful air/ernergy that filled out her rubber like body to be like ours. Other than that, she was “energy”, and as soon as she opened her mouth ALL this air-energy sings its way out, allowing her body form to deflate and thus collapse to the ground in a heap.
She was air/energy embodied.
Now that I have explained this far, please continue to be amazed.
Her voice was so melodious I am sure the sirens of old legends had nothing on her. Now so far there are many ‘apparent’ contradictions here, yet there are none. Hey, its “my” dream and I say if there are any contradictions or not here, ok?
So, I hear her sing and see why she could not speak. But I realize too that I do not hear her sing with my hears, but with ALL the cells of my body!! Here we go again you say? True, she cannot speak but she will sing, I have to close my eyes to hear, yet I do not hear her because she is sort of mute but I can hear her sing, and now I do not hear her with my ears?
Yes, her singing energy-sound-waves-filaments-sparks are hitting and boucing and touching all the cells of my body. I can see it too, like gentle concentric waves each filled with countless very tiny bubble like points of contact along those string/waves/filaments that each reach out and touch/vibrate on each cell of my body, and this contact is creating the most amazing melody I have ever “heard”.
I am hearing not with my ears, but with my body and flesh, and it is totally enveloping me in a way I am being sonically cleansed or washed in some way.
Now, to be even more precise, it is not specifically her that is actually singing, but for the most part the “singing” is more precisely done whenever these tiny bubbles of energy along the filaments each touch a cell on my body that produces the sweetest melody I have ever hear.
I wake from this profound imagery and Inner Experience with a certain vibration still in my body and my face very soaked from the tears streaming from my eyes.
For days afterwards I could feel this movement inside me.. from just there to the very deep into the core of my being… not just physically either.
A few nights later I happen to call my friend Dorothy and after a while I tell her this dream.. and silence… I thought the line had been cut. Nope, she was just pondering. She explains that apparently the very next night she too had a dream that involved a sort of Inner Sound experience.
Many years ago Dorothy had a Sheltie (miniature collie) and that Taffy (the sheltie) has been the only dog Dorothy has ever dreamt about after the dog had died. But in this dream, Dorothy was visited by a HUGE German sheppard dog, she she doesn’t own and had never seen one so large. Even in the dream, the dog was abnormally large in usual terms. so large that when in the dream the dog jumped up onto the bed to sit close to Dorothy, the bed really sagged so heavy and large the dog was.
Dorothy knows the dog will not harm here.
As the dog sits there, it suddenly opens its jaws and out comes the loudest bark Dorothy has even heard. She said the dog didn’t bark, but the loudest bark came out of its open mouth, which is a bit bizarre, but it is her dream after all.
SO loud was the bark that Dorothy was propelled directly from the dream state to sitting bolt upright in her own empty bed.
She explained that for a few days even she could “feel” that dog’s bark energy course right through her own energy body like a tangible ambient presence. This lasted a day or two I gather.
So, apparently both my friend and I had a dream, a very vivid dream which involved some sort of Inner Sound. Mind you I am aware that there are other elements and even down to the words I used in my dream, the way things were described are all highly significant. I just have to allow the translation to happen.
Now I also know there is a transition of sorts on the horizon for myself, and we’ll just have to sit and see what “happens”.
Cheers,
Serge J Grandbois
