Clusters II and Inner Self Network

March 29, 2004

Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois
Transcribed by Mark C. Bukator
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on March 29, 2004
© Copyright 2004 Avion Rising Inc.

Andrea, Lida and Mark in Attendance.

Mark’s Notes: Prior to Kris’ arrival we were talking about movies, specifically movies with good spiritual messages. “The Price of Milk”, “Bruce Almighty” were briefly mentioned but the main focus was on “Whale Rider”.

7:45 PM Session Begins

KRIS: Now we are glad that you have discussed your films.

We have presented some of the material to try to give a different perspective upon the breadth, the depth and scope of consciousness that may appear that much more removed from your own personal daily lives, that may appear somewhat divorced from your daily activities, with our attempt to bring this information about, is to give you not only the greater sense of yourselves, of selfhood, but also of a greater sense of being.

Though we use different terminology and that the sense of it appears separated from whom and what you are. The proof of the matter is that you are not separated neither from each other nor from what you may end up calling the Universe or All That Is or consciousness, the universal force or however you term the experience. It is important to keep in mind that you are as much a part of all of what we have described though your focus, the intention of your personality is directed to other goals, to other interactions, that portions of yourself direct their energy in a narrower bandwidth, though the word narrower does NOT mean less inclusive. It simply means that you have chosen to direct your experiences in a manner that allows you to rejoice that concentration of consciousness, that point of consciousness.

This permits you, this being the information that we have provided, allows you to understand that you are not separated from all beings, regardless of how vast their psychological or non-physical presences or bodies are, that indeed you are tied into such a vast process of becoming, that when you look back upon this information, especially if you are struggling in various areas of your life where you encounter specific challenges. Then it may be of assistance to you to remember the material that we have given you, to study it, to explore it and to allow that greater sense of being to flow through you, to give of itself to you, whereby you allow that giving to occur. This in return will refresh and replenish and revive your resources, your mental, psychological and physical energies.

The meditation that we shared with you last week is also meant, in certain words to recharge your batteries, so to speak, give you that additional boost, when needed. Our hope is also to help redefine possibly even reinvent what is understood by the word self.

Under normal conditions, you relate to the idea of self in accordance with the personal history of the one body that you have in this one time. You have a certain definition of yourself according to the time of your birth into the world, of growing up in a specific family unit whether small or large, extended families of relatives of aunts and uncles, of grandparents, of nieces and nephews and so on and so forth. You accumulate experiences defined within the context of your family unit, your social and cultural and national unit and these give you specific interpretations of the thoughts and convictions that you hold about whom and what you think you are.

Above and beyond these sets of characteristics and definitions you are again that much more. You have had other bodies, other physical forms that also were manifest through other parents, in other family environments, in other social and cultural and national and international units, in other times and places and these all together, whether a mere dozen or hundreds upon hundreds, all comprise and come together to give an enlarged sense of selfhood and that is still only part of the picture that depicts whom and what you are.

In the film making industry, modern films are no longer shot in sequence or it is extremely rare. Various segments of the film are enacted and filmed separately, even simultaneously. Different aspects of the script that occur in different areas are shot at the same time, separately even without one scene flowing into the other until it is organized and edited to create a sense of continuity that you then enjoy in the theater or on your DVDs and VHS, correct?

Imagine if you will for a moment that instead of one scene from the script being filmed in one area and another scene being filmed in another area and another scene yet in another area yet, imagine that instead of simple scenes you have entire lifetimes filmed in one area and another area and another area yet. Whole lifetimes, scenes that are filmed apparently without any connectivity, connective tissue, so to speak and these lifetimes apparently film independently, separately from each other are then processed and edited through the auspices of your inner self, your unconscious, whatever label you wish to bestow upon it and that your present life here is another one of these lifetimes being enacted, filmed, shared with others in this ‘Inner Self Network’ as Joseph calls it.

Though there might be dozens if not hundreds of these lifetimes being enacted and played out by apparent different personalities, still they essential primordial self assimilates all of those experiences in a manner that retains the individuality and the characteristics and the traits unique to each individual lifetime personality and together helps in the sharing of experiences and lessons and learnings and teachings, in the joys and the sorrows of all of these lifetimes. Each such essential or primordial or source self is, in its own way also part of the still larger network which again is part of a larger network and on and on.

Each individual unit itself part of a larger tapestry of living, of life and of energy, with all of the potential of each one fully available to the whole. We have presented information concerning these clans or clusters of consciousness that may appear deeply removed from the concerns of everyday life whilst in reality they still represent deep untapped and unrecognized wells of characteristics and aspects of the human personality. Thus we began with the presenting of the information about the Nine Sisters, gradually moving through into the material that we have now presented because they are each couched one into the other. The words that we have used, the allegories and so on are an attempt to help you discover more of what you are than you may have thought possible, stretching the boundaries of those pre-conceived notions about selfhood, about what is self, about what is identity, what is characteristic.

Thus again as we spoke of just a short moment ago, what is selfhood? Again you are accustomed to think of yourselves in historical, sequential, linear timelines and that your personal physical history began when you were born of these parents. You grew up in this family. You had these friends. You went to this and that and that school. You studied. You know yourself because of these so called things. But all of what this does is to categorize specific interactions between you and reality, helping to give you a sense of definition, of characteristics, of personality though you have barely tapped into the depth of whom and what you are.

We have attempted to bring about this information and perhaps provide the means to stimulate curiosity about the nature of yourself in ways not thought of in that manner, stimulate the curiosity that will lead you to examine not only the nature of self but of the Nature of Reality, for the two are intimately tied together.

With that we will take a small break and let you ponder these things.

8:07 PM Break Starts

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Mark’s Notes: Immediately after break started we began to talk about what we had just heard. I voiced my understandings of the lessons and felt it important to record them. (This is not the norm for me).

Mark: What I got out of this: I have moved past the stage where I think of myself as an individual. I have a higher self. It has other incarnations but I have been picturing that higher self as an individual. What I finally or believe that I have understood is that it is not an individual. I was beginning to understand this last week as well but more clearly now that he has used in the film analogy, that it is more of a corporation, a company or an association.

As in the film industry, you have someone who comes up with the concept, you have writers, you have directors, you have producers, and you have all different people involved in the production.

MY life is a movie and there are hundreds of people [or consciousnesses] that have to be therefore this to take place, for this story to be told. If you talk to the director, it’s HIS movie. If you talk to the producer, oh it’s HIS movie. If you talk to the writer, Oh No, it’s HIS movie. It’s all of their movie. It’s a company. It’s an association. It’s a corporation and it’s a vast one.

So now I am getting the physical sense of, okay I notice every time that he talks about the individual that yes I agree I am past that BUT it wasn’t THIS individual [pointing at my physical body] and that I was picturing ANOTHER individual above me and its not. Does that make sense?

Andrea: Yes, I think so and a lot of the time Kris uses ‘We’ as opposed to ‘I’ so he is referring to the collective.

Mark: Exactly and no one [singular] can come through and even though we named him Kris or Philip[again pointing at myself] there is still a whole slew that have to be there. Be it the Netjers or whatever, there are different consciousnesses at play at any given time to come up with all the various, infinite factors and [long pause] so on.

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8:11 Pm Kris Returns

KRIS: Now do keep in mind that you do not have to set up a religion where you may not be an individual. Do you follow? You are expressing, you are creating into three dimensional format, individual traits and characteristics of far larger gestalt like concepts of selfhood and everything that appears in your physical world, in your societies, structural organizations of societies whether they be corporations, companies, family structures, religious groups and so on and so forth, are all modeled upon various aspects of consciousness itself. There are literally an infinite number of varieties of these combinations and associations of consciousness.

On your plane and in your world you use some of these blue prints to formulate your world, your many different governments, whether it is a dictatorship, a democracy, a theocracy or any other appellation whether you have a socialist, communist, bureaucratic society, all of these different expressions of some of the components of different aspects of consciousness reflected into the three dimensional forum. Everything that you see in the world, in your society inevitably, and this one of those absolutes inevitably, is the result of the individual and collective convictions of each and every individual at this time and other times.

You can not BE without a certain state of beliefs. You are whom and what you believe yourself to be. Though the psychological building blocks, beliefs, convictions are used to create your script into the film and the drama of your life as you know it to be. Does that make sense?

Though there are portions of the world steeped in atrocities of one kind or another and other portions of the world seen to the naked eye to be free of challenges to a certain degree, still your entire world is a great masterpiece and the artists are many and the tableau is the result of the brushstrokes of your convictions, of your feelings, of your emotions, of your joys and of your sorrows. That great painting of the world is created by all of the artists working together, sometimes consciously but always unconsciously to create as variegated scene as possible.

So you are each masterful creators, each of your lives itself also a masterpiece for it beautifully mirrors your own personal convictions. It PERFECTLY mirrors those convictions for indeed you do create perfectly for you could not do otherwise.

The idea that you are many and you are one is not a contradiction and you can have access to both of these states because you are those states simultaneously. You are each an individual of great collectives. So we have attempted then to bring you from inside, a perception into some of the deeper associations and connections that exist in the far reaches of your inner galaxies where you have these sources of information, these sources of energy, sources of consciousness that can be tapped into, that can be brought from the apparent unknown into the world of your everyday lives. Does that make sense?

Indeed then, have a small break.

8:20 PM Break Starts

Mark’s Notes: During break Andrea asked if I caught that first part about no need to set up a religion. I responded by saying that just because we are now understanding the complexities of the many clusters or clans in that ‘Inner Self Network’, this does not take away from or diminish the individual. As an example, a company is no good without the product and the product can not be made without the company.

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8:25 Pm session Resumes

KRIS: Now if you look at the extremely diversified personalities, the individuals that actually compose family units, social units, national and international units and the whole world, that is a great scope of numberless individuals, each with his or her own beliefs, agendas, goals, creativity and a desire and a drive TO BE. Together as well as individually they express that state of being as best they can within the physics of reality as you know it and together they represent, the whole world represents incredible association of various types of energy, each individual yet working in tandem with each other, representing indeed the notion of these clans or clusters.

Within the human race or species, you have various types. You have Caucasian, Asian, African and so on and then you have a number of nationalities and so on down to the single individual. And looked at together, this collective of consciousness may itself represent but one clustering of consciousness, each made up of many different types, even many different clusters together and still the picture is not complete for there are OTHER clusterings of consciousness, each filled with as many associations of individual consciousnesses as your own, each with its unique drives and desires and characteristics.

Each is still connected to the other in order that the single individual within that collective can have as much access to the knowledge and the wisdom as the collective itself and as all of the collectives and all of the clusterings, providing a bank of knowledge and information and wisdom, that itself is alive and sentient and as individualized as all the single individuals that make up the collective because it each singular individual within any of the units we previously described are themselves a physical representation of these fonts and barrels of wisdom and knowledge made alive through the auspices of theirs and your personalities. Each so unique yet so reflective of each other that you can recognize yourself in the other and still know yourself as separate from the other.

That alone is a great accomplishment and can provide you with the tools through the simply knowing that there are no closed systems and that all of consciousness is open ended. We speak of it in that manner because your personal individual life is as much a unique adventure to yourself as it is an adventure for the entire species. When you experience either joy or sorrow or learning and growth and wisdom you become an expression of consciousness and you simultaneously become the gateway to sharing that unique experience with the rest of your collective or associations.

In spite of all of these things you still manage to wash your dishes and clean your floors because in those apparently very common acts, the universe still flows in and through you and it still experiences itself through your actions. Now do you have questions?

Perhaps then we can share with you a small exercise. You can stay as you are. All that is required truly is that in those moments of solitude you allow your mind to wander into the farthest reaches of your imagination towards those areas of selfhood you have yet to explore and understand and slowly and gradually, the very center of your being know that you are calling to you those distant cousins of consciousness, those distant relatives, those clans and clusters that manifest themselves through the entire world and through many different worlds entirely. Become aware of the activity of lives lived within those moments. Become aware also of your life living itself in this moment knowing that you are intimately tied to great banks of wisdom and knowledge that is shared by you and others. That this knowledge is part of the self that you. That you call upon that knowledge to make itself known in your life in ways that you may understand with your conscious mind so that it and you grow in tandem.

It is a small exercise, a small meditation but one that can indeed have an interesting affect as you go about your daily life knowing that you are part of a blessed and loving network of consciousness.

Now we will take our leave of your lovely selves and perhaps we may drop by or not but do enjoy your selves in more ways that one.

8:40 PM Session Ends

Clusters of Consciousness and Selfhood

March 22, 2004

Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois
Transcribed by Mark C. Bukator
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on March 22, 2004
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© Copyright 2004 Avion Rising Inc.

Andrea, Lida and Mark are present for the session.

7:30 PM

KRIS: We trust then that you are most comfortable and we thank you for braving inclement weather.

Now it has most likely come to your attention that last week’s promise of something lighter ended up being somewhat heavier than you thought. And indeed we tried as best as possible, at least the initial openings for other concepts to follow. Though we have asked you often if you followed or understood, it allowed us to both gage the release of the words, how you responded and helped to maintain Joseph in a state of knowing that there is still a flow and he need not have worried overly, even though initially the impression was that the material might have been disjointed. Do you follow?

Now as we tried to explain and again this is not an easy concept because we have to translate information not usually found in your system of reality into material and words that you may relate to and then Joseph has to deliver it in the vernacular that makes it even more understandable. So you are receiving translation twice removed. Does that make sense?

All in all, we do try to ascertain that it does carry the intent in a manner that is satisfactory and then we can build upon that foundation.

Now you are accustomed to thinking of yourselves as a singular unit in terms of being separate from other singular units. And within your singularities, you accept to function and express and to literally become the embodiment of all of your convictions, your beliefs your expectations and so on and so forth. And you then make the best of the situation before you in an attempt to transform the energy contained within the thoughts that you entertain into the three dimensional conditions and situations and events and circumstances of your daily lives day in and day out.

That is no small feat. Indeed it is a most admiral accomplishment and one that should be reflected upon in such a manner. Over millennia, as time passes, often your species forgets that your state of being is not limited to the singular expressions that seem to contain all of whom and what you are. Every so often a melodious voice, ours or others, comes along and reminds you with the tools that we are given that in spite of fact that you experience yourselves as singular units of consciousness, you are not that singularized!

You are not as separate and different from all of the other individualities that abound in your realities. But there is that much more to your being than you might ever suspect and in fact, that the state of being and your being in particular, might be even more complex and layered than you have ever thought possible.

You discover here and there that your own being is indeed a phenomenon of its own, that you are not only an organic vessel through which you express your feelings, your emotions, your expectations and so on and so forth, that there is far more to each and every one of you than meets the eye. That in fact, you will eventually uncover that the ideas of selfhood that you might have entertained for a long time only represent a small slice of the truth that is contained within your being. That indeed you may eventually recognize that you identify yourselves in the singular will no longer suit whom and what you are. That you are in fact ‘the joyous amalgam of a multitude of selves’ which is why we referred to your inner selves and all your higher selves, giving you small indications of whom and what you are.

It can even be said that, as we described briefly last session, that you are parts of each other in a very concrete manner, as well as varying psychological and spiritual manner. Ultimately, the realization will make itself known within you, that you may hold a specific focus or persona, that persona resting upon a veritable pyramid of consciousness of unimaginable proportions, much like the every tip of the iceberg is not and cannot be the entire iceberg, that it represents only a portion of the whole. Do you follow?

Now you also understand that your self is not entirely rooted in the physical organic vessel or self or body but extends far beyond though it is sometimes difficult to imagine what that means. Does it mean that your consciousness extends all the way to the outer edges of your skin for instance and fills up that whole space? Or does it mean that you extend beyond the parameters of your skin and if so how far beyond? A foot? Two feet? Five feet perhaps?

The frog at the bottom of the well tried that and he was able to only to realize that there were limitations to its interpretation. However, in your place you may understand a certain degree of expansion of your consciousness but its true degree is far greater indeed than that. When we say that there are truly no dimensions where you cannot be found, we mean that not only metaphorically but quite literally. And the self that you think you are still vaster yet. Your true body, the non-physical body is simply not measurable and because of that your true body, your true non-physical self, includes and incorporates all other beings, all other forms of life, all other consciousnesses. Just as you are a part of all other consciousnesses.

The focus of your personality gives you the impression that you a separate point of awareness, separate from all of reality and it appears that way through and because of the physical senses through which again you narrow your consciousness and your perceptions. Were you to turn that perception in the opposite direction you might discover that indeed there is no end in sight to your being and what it is composed of which is all things. There are so many different aspects to whom and what you are that it is indeed of universal cosmic proportions.

You may at times become aware of some other aspects of your being while you are focused in your daily activities and sometimes not and the more that you actually explore the subject the more of this you will actually discover. Some of these other aspects may come in the form of dreams, intuitions, insights, deep revelations or otherwise. There are still some that are so foreign to your ideas of selfhood that they may not necessarily appear in a manner that you can grasp or understand.

Now we are speaking at the essential or essence level at a state of awareness that is less and less concerned with the physical interactions but which initiates physical interaction. It is the seeding ground for physical reality. These aspects may indeed be very removed from your normal perceptions or even concepts of selfhood. We spoke of some of them earlier in reference to the Nine Sisters as being a Matrix of Unique Essential Characteristics. Do you remember?

These tie in as well enabling a bridge, a psychological essence bridge to not only the various families of consciousness as described in the Seth material but even beyond those descriptions where we called them ‘Clans of Consciousness’. Perhaps another interchangeable term can be ‘Clusters of Consciousness’. So we might refer to them in either terms.

Consider for instance your own galaxy. You call it the Milky Way. Even though at one time your astronomers and Astro-physicists and other researchers may have speculated that the Milky Way is a unique galaxy, they may now realize that even though it is a unique galaxy it is but one of several hundred billions and they can most certainly not assume that because their telescopes can only see so far that they there is nothing to see beyond. They have another surprise coming.

Now they know that galaxies are actually very interesting subjects in that they themselves are organized in clusters which may contain several different groupings of galaxies all of which contain various astronomical phenomenon including vast varieties of solar systems, each traveling within their respective galaxies, each traveling within their respective clusters, each again traveling throughout the cosmos in specific units of clusters and they will keep finding more and more and more. They are now realizing once again that they have to push back the so called birth date of the universe and they will keep having to do that.

Now we mentioned this because there is indeed a tie in where in many of your own thoughts and many of your own other selves, many aspects, many of which will never be known to you but indeed be metaphorically transformed or metamorphosed in terms of many of the stars that you see as an indication they are still within your main body which is not your physical form. Beyond that you have yet other clusters or clans of consciousness, aspects that themselves travel within groups in yet more remote corners of your own mind galaxies, stretching more and more the boundaries of selfhood. Do you follow so far or are you now tripped out?

Now these clans of consciousness are again that much removed from your ideas of selfhood. They organize themselves by specific intent much like the families of consciousness are organized through intent but their intent again is very diversified, usually concerned with the creation of planes of existence, levels of realities and dimensions of idea constructions.

[Pointing at Mark] Highlight that particular last part (terms).

(Continuing on)

KRIS: In a manner that enables literally an unlimited number of singular selves to take on their own expressions in conditions that enable them to flourish, to nurture, to experience, to grow and themselves to learn how to transform energy into matter, regardless of the dimension that they find themselves in for there are many different types of energy into matter processes. You are involved in one type and some or others are involved in other types of transformations of energy into matter with the understanding that matter is only another term again for energy and consciousness. So we suggest a small break here.

7:57 PM Break Starts

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8:01 PM Session Resumes

KRIS: Now as an aside, your beloved astronomers and astrophysicists will uncover something new and exciting that may even take months to release to the public because they wish to examine the data. It involves some new discovery about the composition of far off galaxies and the nature of that composition which will indicate to them that they indeed have looked at many of these things but have been blinded by their own theories previously. It will uncover and shed new light, perhaps in three to six months, more or less, this will come to light and within the scientific community relevant to these researches there will be much excitement and buzzing. So perhaps you may keep an eye out for that period of time.

LIDA: It doesn’t have anything to do with the new small planet, right?

KRIS: Indeed not and it will not be the discovery of a new type of cheese on the moon.

Now, if you look at this from another angle, consider for a moment some of the very ancient mythologies on your planet and in your civilizations cultures. Almost all of those ancient mythologies, some that are barely echoes in the distant past, they almost all involve the representation of primordial gods and goddesses, the originators, the progenitors, the creators of elements and of form and of matter and the formation of the world which then was populated by humans and the creation of these gods. These ancient gods and goddesses also gave birth to younger gods and goddesses who eventually replaced the older gods and goddesses. Do you understand?

Now, in those terms, you could consider that the clans are represented in the mythologies by those primordial god creative forces, the ones that create the foundations of the worlds. Does that make some sense to you?

Eventually with the passage of time, the changes in the civilizations and the cultures, the progressions within societies and its different stages, these primordial creative forces, mythologized into ancient gods and goddesses eventually take a backstage and are often forgotten altogether. These represent legitimate changes in focuses, changes and alterations in perceptions in consciousness as is natural progression, in those terms.

These ancient clans are, as we have said, preoccupied with the formation of some of the basic levels and blueprints for [the] consciousness that comes after them for furthering explorations. They are also aspects of All That Is and therefore aspects of your own selves. They could be considered lower down into the larger segments of the iceberg, for instance and not ‘lower down’ in terms of a higher and lower and more spiritual and less spiritual. Not in that fashion.

So they preoccupy themselves with NON-physically oriented endeavors that then permit physically oriented endeavors which eventually permeate in your lovely forms so that you then, using some of the same qualities in different quantities, learn how to transform your energy source into energy matter. Does that make some sense?

So you are still all connected. You are simply a different expression of those ancient primordial expressions in a manner that enables you to discover your own identity and individuality. Those ancient clans of consciousness are not concerned in the least with the specific interpretations of individualism and individuality that you are accustomed to dealing with in terms of me, myself and I because from their perspective, YOU are THEM and THEY are YOU.

They see NO difference, in that specific term. They generate intent as the seedings of universes that then provide the groupings of families of consciousness with their intents which then permeate through your own intents and how you deal with those intentions. Does that also make some sense?

Consider another approach, you have here a computer, in this case TWO, networking but in this example it will be considered as ONE. It is connected to the internet, a larger server which in itself is again connected through a network to a larger server still and so on and so forth, which are entire series of networks connected to other networks connected to other networks, still creating a flow throughout a large part of your North American continent and the World, uniting you in a ways that you never thought possible just a few years ago.

This gives you an entirely new and different field within which to play and create again. In a similar manner, one individual is connected to another which is connected to another which is connected to others which are connected to others which are connected to others still creating one large, unbelievably diverse body of humanity, each individually expressed but composing the larger body of humanity. Within that large body, each individual can be expressed as a singular unit.

We are hoping to delve deeper into the subject because it will eventually enable you to tap into and directly tap into a larger reserve of tools and potentials and capabilities that may normally be completely ignored because your ideas of selfhood are rather restrictive. Does that make sense as well?

So if you are of a mind we would like to share a small meditation to enable you to learn how to begin tapping into the reserves of energies that are at first in your own physical form which is merely another interpretation for consciousness. You should not overly abuse the concept, for as we have said before you may be still non-physical consciousness but you will be surprised at how physical walking into a wall can be.

Now if you were to sit in a comfortable manner and using the sound and energy of our melodious voice allow yourselves to start breathing in a soothing and calming manner so that you use all ambient sounds in the room and the energy of our voice as a source of additional energy and comfort. Using a relaxed mood begin to breathe in a gentle deep manner, in a nice rhythmic slow manner, and permit yourselves to become increasingly aware of the breathing process itself. The lungs inflating, taking in air, as well as the lungs releasing the air becoming aware of the gentle rhythmic flow.

As you become familiar with that rhythmic flow, listening to the sound of our voice, you turn your focus, direct your attention deeper into the breathing. The air rushing into and then out of the lungs and the bronchial tubes and as you take in the rhythmic breath and the rushing in and out of air in this gentle manner, allow yourselves to also become aware of the very air that is already flowing in and out of your lungs, as if you yourself were one of those particles of air that is in your body. This particle of air enables you to see into the body. You can see the tissue that is in the bronchial tubes, perhaps in the lungs. You can see the cells of the body, the cells that compose the tissue before you.

You might even be able to sense the membrane of that tissue and as you are still focuses observing the membrane of the tissue, you can somehow or other become part of the tissue allowing yourselves to merge with the membrane of that tissue and of the cell in that tissue right now so that your awareness is merged directly with such a small thing as the tissue and the cell.

As you become familiar with that environment you may also recognize that your awareness has become so pinpointed that you can now see beyond the form of the tissue in the very molecular structure that composes the tissue and so pinpointed is your consciousness and your awareness at that level that you can see even past, beyond the molecular elements, right into the essence of consciousness, into a state of being that permeates not only the molecular structure of the cell and the tissue but permeates the entire body as if in its own right the body is a universe with diverse satellites and constellations, solar systems and even far off galaxies. Allow yourself to reach even deeper into the pure essence of your being where its own form has no form where time is no time where it exists before time and before space where its existence simply IS.

And in that state you rest knowing full well that you can return to this state again and next time you might even ask for the pathway to another point of consciousness, into other selves, into this incredibly vast extended network of cells that reach beyond your ideas of beyond and still all can be found both in the farthest reaches of the imagination and the universe as well as in the minute point of consciousness imaginable, both being simultaneously embraced as equally valid and powerful.

Slowly, gradually return to the sound of our voice in this room. Return to the awareness of the organs of your body and your breath, your breathing into the form that you know now sitting here in this room where your presence never left but merely shifted.

On the count of three you will open you eyes.

ONE, wiggle your fingers and toes.

TWO, wiggle your hands, wrists, feet and ankles. You may even move your head and your neck.

THREE, you now open your eyes, fully conscious to this room and take a small break.

8:25 PM Break Starts

Mark’s Notes: After the meditation we all felt different. Our minds were working a mile a minute. We were all very thinkative and found it difficult to listen and absorb what Kris talked about after the meditation in this next part, at least at first.

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8:39 PM session Re-Starts

KRIS: Now what we are intending, as we said, is to build a certain foundation. Therefore we will be using metaphors, allegories, example and references to try to build up sufficient referential information to then develop it even further. For the time being perhaps we will give you a gift this evening and see if you have any questions.

MARK: I do but I don’t know how to word it. You said that there will be a point where we would understand or change, transform and understand and speak in terms of ‘we’ instead of ‘I’ and no longer look at ourselves in the form of a singularity. I am not going to ask for a date or anything but is that individual process or a collective one.

KRIS: It must begin at the individual level and as more realizations along the lines of an extended line of selfhood establishes itself, then those small ripples essentially create waves which eventually create tsunamis building up in momentum, one to the other. Even though it may take hundreds of years in your time to, for a large number of individuals to realize that they are simultaneously singular and collective consciousness all at once and operate within a larger playing field so to speak. So again it is not a process that will occur over night but the joys of discoveries at that time will definitely bring further transformations. You will no longer fear yourselves or your unofficial experiences. You will understand that they are all part of the natural processes of the state of being who you are. Does that answer your question?

MARK: Yes, it does. Thank you.

LIDA: Kris, are we relearning this process?

KRIS: In a manner, yes you are. You have a multidimensional focus at all times. When you direct the one point of consciousness to focus into an event singular individuality with the complete package of the ego perception, the rational, intellectual, emotional, intuitive apparatus as you experience it now, you need to set aside some of the broader perspectives of your whole selves. Do you understand?

Otherwise it would be simply too difficult to focus upon one point of consciousness and this does not mean there are no other types of consciousness. You are just focused into one expression of it. Therefore you momentarily suspend your awareness of other points of consciousness to be able to function and concentrate in this one. You still function in all of the others but you have temporarily suspended your knowledge of that network. Do you follow?

So yes you are relearning what you already know but by that process alone you are also creating new knowledge, new definitions of selfhood, new understandings of consciousness and new different creative expressions of the idea of yourself. In so many words, you are redefining the experience of the universe through your being. And again that is no small feat, no small accomplishment. Do you follow?

Imagine for instance, if you were even momentarily aware, not only of all the processes that you are undergoing in your physical form at this moment, such as the exchange of air in your lungs and into your blood. The blood streaming through your veins, your digestive system, your elimination system, how all the cells in your body communicate with the brain through your nervous system and synaptic systems and on top of that you are also aware of the changing image of your body as consciousness interprets itself as you, as your image, at this very moment and the next moment and the next moment, creating infinite number of moments and simultaneously you suddenly become aware that there are truly no boundaries between yourself, the environment, the apparent objects and forms found in that environment and that environment within the environment of others and all together of the entire wholeness of all environments and points of consciousness on this planet, including the planet itself.

And the sense of being of all of those points of consciousness as a singular multidimensional unit operating, one amongst an infinite number of other points of consciousness throughout your galaxy and your cosmos and then your plane of consciousness or dimension. You would not know what thought to focus on first nor even how to go to the bathroom. So you allow yourself an extension of that larger awareness so that you can concentrate and operate within that one point of consciousness. Do you follow?

It makes it simpler to drive your car for instance, but your overall inner selves, together are aware that whom and what they are is all of those things and even more. So you simply redefine the boundaries of your self awareness at that time, at this moment, to be able to maneuver in a fashion best becoming the expression that you wish to give to yourself at this point. Does that make some sense to you at this point?

ANDREA: I think so.

KRIS: In re-reading the transcript, it might make more sense then.

ANDREA: Kris, do all of ourselves belong to one cluster or are do we belong to several different clusters?

KRIS: Let us put it to you this way, in your own living experience you are a part of a specific family. That family exists within a community so you are part of that community. That community is part of a larger body and it again is part of a larger body still and again and again. So you are a part of all of those things and at the same time you are still able to identify yourself as separate from all of those things. Correct?

You maintain a certain degree or type of integrity, not that it would diminish but it would be different than the one you experience now. Similarly, you belong to all of the various families and they in turn belong to one of many clans and we have mentioned that there are seventeen that are more towards your end of the bargain in terms of your physical expression, for there are many more. Still there would be no conflict because your intent in this particular life expression will align you with the intents of one or even more than one families of consciousness, including aligning yourself with one or more of the clans of consciousness depending on the intent of your true source self or selves. So you are indeed multilayered multidimensional singularity. Does that make some metaphysical sense to you?

ANDREA: Yes it does.

MARK: That’s like saying I am a member of this world and life on this world has a certain intent. I am also Canadian and Canadians have a certain intent and I am also living in the province of Ontario and Ontarians have a certain intent as opposed to other provinces. But I am also living in the city of Toronto and the intent of Torontonians…

KRIS: It is well known that Torontonians have a unique intent ….

MARK: right down to my individual intents because I am a member of ALL.

KRIS: Indeed then you are all intently intertwined with all of these larger overall intentions but you are still able to retain your own integrity. Our mention of the Bengali term “Acyntia Beda Beda Tattva” still stands. We are simultaneously one and different from the source self, the true self or the god head. In other words you are as much a precious and loving and much adored, blessed and sacred expression of the entire production of creation and IT in its own way is a reflection and an expression of whom and what you are a precious and blessed and sacred individual. You are the universe expressed in a unique way and in turn you express the entire universe through your being as the universe represents portions of you that can not be contained in your expression and in your singularity.

We do not expect you to understand any of that.

MARK: One thing that I discovered is that life is very much a paradox, two opposite statements that are both true at the same time.

KRIS: Indeed because even right now one of the most confusing paradoxes is one of the simplest, you are alive and you are dead at the same time. You live and have your life and you die and have your life together.

MARK: We are unique yet we are very much a part of the whole master plan, the whole ‘kit and caboodle’.

KRIS: You are indeed unique. All of you and your uniqueness, your individuality, your singularity is unmatched as easily as there can be a numberless amount of different grains of sand or flakes of snow in all of the worlds in all of the creations.

Now we suggest then that you take your lovable precious singular identities and enjoy the upcoming week.

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KRIS: Now to make things more interesting, you often consider that there are cities in other parts of the world, there are countries in other parts of the world, there are continents on other parts of the planet, ALL relevant to you. What you do not consider is that in reality again those geographical distances, those geographical coordinates are only relative to your perceptions and your point of consciousness. In another reality there are no distances in terms of time and space as you understand it. For example, we say the word Hawaii and you come up with some imagery that you also understand in terms of physical distance, geographical location. Hawaii is approximately 2500, 2700 miles west and so on and so forth.

In terms of consciousness, the imagery that you bring up concerning Hawaii actually allows you to be there on the spot simultaneously with your body here in Toronto at the same time. The difference is that you think there is a difference therefore it is created as a difference in terms of physical space time location. Do you understand?

We could say Budapest. We could say Hong Kong, Taiwan, Rome or Copenhagen. We could even say Mars, Venus or Alpha Centauri.

MARK: Images come to mind instantly even though we may never have actually been there. Very pictorial!

KRIS: Indeed and at the same time the only difference is your senses have manufactured an artificial division in the space time coordinates. Therefore to get to Hawaii you have, because you are focused in the physical form that centers around the focuses on the use of the physical senses, you have to board a plane to travel there for now. You do not think of taking a consciousness vacation.

MARK: Now there’s an idea!

KRIS: Do not tell Air Canada! < Room comes alive with laughter> but you do understand the point because in terms of consciousness there are no such artificial divisions. So you could literally use the auspices of dream time because it is that almost fluid like environment that is best conducive to the flow of ideas which would enable you to enjoy a side trip with immense benefits to the physical and psychological selves.

In the dead of winter when many people get the referenced ‘winter blues’, a great deal of good can be brought about by visualizing and even momentarily slipping off to the inner Hawaii, basking in the sunlight, swimming by the seaside, picking macadamia nuts or pineapples, revitalizing the personality and bringing up the dopamine and serotonin levels which are affected by the winter here. Do you understand?

So the use of your imagination can provide great therapy. Even the dog agrees.

MARK: It has also been proven in many cases where they take different groups of let’s say sports people and one group actually practiced, let’s say basketball for instance. One group actually practiced on the court and the other group mentally practiced, they sat in chairs and mentally practiced. It proved to be just as beneficial for the people who only mentally practiced as it was for the group that physically practiced.

KRIS: Indeed because the auspices of your imagination have barely been explored by your species yet you use the principles all the time and you forget that it were not for your often ridiculed imagination you would have no civilization, you would have no writings, you would have no plumbing, you would have no flushing toilets, you would have no hair dressers, no television, no radio, no fax, no internet! You would have none of the amenities of life because they all come from and through the auspices of your imagination and creativity.

Nor would you have your own selves here now because whom and what you are presently as physical individuals is a result of what you imagine yourself to be.

MARK: We would definitely starve to death because we couldn’t imagine ourselves eating.

KRIS: So you may give your imagination more credit and your use of it more empowerment. You may even try sometimes to refuse to engage your visual imaging system, your imagination, for anything that you do you would not even be able to do that because you would have to use it to use it. Do you understand?

You can not exist without this capacity. It would then be in your best interest to then use it to your advantage instead of your disadvantage. Does that make sense?

Then imagine yourselves as best that you can and we will imagine you next week.

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Selfhood and The Fable of The Exploding Frog

March 8, 2004

Recorded in Toronto, Canada on March 8, 2004
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois
Transcribed by Mark C. Bukator
© Copyright 2004 Avion Rising Inc.

Andrea and Lida were in attendance. Mark was called in to work just prior to the session so he could not attend.

[Note from Serge: this session I found to be strange in many ways. First, I don’t even recall any of the two breaks. It’s as if they hadn’t taken place at all. Secondly, we started around 7:30, and it seemed to me that suddenly, it was 9 PM and the session had ended!

I usually have a certain sense of the passing of time, but not for this session. Also, I usually have a sense of flow, of a certain continuity, which seemed missing here. Almost like the session was disjointed, difficult to bring together, like the pieces of the puzzle didn’t translate very well and had trouble fitting into each other.

However, I also had a sense of Kris trying to really keep the context of this level of information together, even if I felt there were multiple streams of info coming from different directions all at once. At least that’s what it felt like from my perspective. The idea or concept Kris was trying to pass through my consciousness was perhaps of a different order than I am accustomed to, so it may have appeared as if I was getting it in blocks, like bits of data flowing over a modem line, but data that may have been so large it had to be broken up/encrypted differently from the usual method of delivery just so some of it could be delivered.

Mark later on also commented that there were parts of the recording he was listening to as he transcribed, where Kris’ voice even sounded different, at least from what he is used to with Kris. I also have the definite sense that Kris will not only tackle it some more, but will expand nicely on what he started.

It is also possible that my having had a nasty kink in my neck for the past two weeks didn’t help matters. However, within 24 hours after this session, the pain in the neck dissolved. --- Serge]

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KRIS: Now we thank you for your kindness and your presence. We thought that perhaps to pause and to give somewhat of a break from the present line of discussion that we could talk about something a bit different.

Throughout your civilization’s history there have always been individuals who have provided guidance and assistance in one form or another, and of course depending on the cultural background and the times themselves, the specific era, there will be various colorations and depictions of those individuals who give assistance.

In many different older cultures, those for example who have maintained and developed ties to nature and the natural world and of course you have the development of what is referred to as ‘Nature States”, you have the development of “Animal Guides” and an entire culture that centers around the essence of nature, that makes itself into form to communicate with those that are attuned to those energies. And common to all of those cultures, whether they are still in modern times LIVING a stone age, non-civilized culture according to common vernacular, there is always a common thread, a deep abiding respect for the Earth and its creatures and specifically that the people involved in that world view often considered themselves the stewards and the caretakers of the lands and those spirits that reach out to them in that land.

There are often cultures that are far different from your modern, present day understandings, especially your divorced views of the natural world as we have spoken about previously. Some other cultures have somehow managed to maintain their ancestral links or ties to their past and their understandings handed down from generation to generation that still ties them to the natural wonders of the world, and these cultures and many others of a similar bent also work on the premise that nature, the natural world and the essential spirits that inhabit that world, are in part here to help guide humankind, to help guide people in exchange for that stewardship, that caretaking that comes as a result of that guidance given by nature spirits, by Mother Nature and the Earth Goddess and so on and so forth.

This again ties into what we have discussed earlier on concerning the early persecution and the massacre of the natural world and those relating to it. By this deadly assault mankind lost its collective ability to understand the symbiotic relationship of giving and taking, of nurturing, of care giving and stewardship for the Earth and nature where by in return he was guided in his daily and spiritual life and endeavors. Some people now a day are returning to those ancient roots or at least are becoming sufficiently aware as to seek out an understanding and an appreciation for this symbiotic relationship with nature and the world.

There have been other cultures on your planet where this relationship was much more pronounced, where the individual, groups, tribes and ancient societies saw their role as more pronounced and even understood that if ever there were breaks in this chain of relationships then indeed your world would suffer much. Now there are and always have been consciousnesses, individuals that sought to give assistance. In many of Seth’s materials there is a description of Speakers, a group of beings who impart ancient eternal knowledge and teach it according to the circumstances and the times.

There have also been other individuals who are able to mingle, merge their consciousness in such a manner that can provide continual guidance. They belong to an extended collective of individuals or consciousnesses that is not limited to a physical appearance but actually use the customs, the mythologies, the law of local groups and societies, either ancient or modern and tries to communicate the essential teachings that can help that group, that collective to return to their true selves.

In the Seth material, Seth identified NINE various families of consciousness, giving specific psychological schematics of essential intent for individuals and through their intents and through their drives and their desires may find themselves belonging to specific families of consciousness through their INTENTS and their desires. One is not specifically born into a specific family of consciousness as much as they belong to one through their intents. For what we are identifying then is something somewhat different but still ties in that would allow the nine families of consciousness to belong to specific order or grouping themselves and that we will get into shortly.

But first off, we did want to mention that there have been, there always are, there always will be individuals who will spare of their essential energies to create communication in the hopes that human individuals will always have a tie to their natural essence as it is manifested through nature, the natural world and all of what is contained in that understanding. Do you understand so far?

This grouping of individuals can take on the guise of the local customs and myths, the local spirits if you wish such as in some native cultures where the animal spirits themselves are seen in the guise of the bear, or the raven or the fox and so on and so forth or the wolf, the coyote. In some other cultures in may very well be the condor, the eagle, the tiger. In other cultures it might very well be the mountains, the trees, the rivers that speak and communicate with mankind at one level, urging and encouraging then the return to that deeper essence, the deeper connection with ‘All That Is’ and the nature.

On another scale, these same beings also take on the characteristic of other methods of communicating deep ancient wisdom again through the myths, the lore of various societies. In this case, they might even take on the guise or the roles of the psychological dramas that involve persons that evolve into persons who are eventually manufactured into Gods or demigods.

Some of these personalities may even take on the role of mythological characters to spark off legends, some that may eventually become religions and entire religious systems and over time these do become distorted. The ancient seeds of wisdom often become deeply buried and lost. One such individual collection or collective of entities has appeared in what we have previously described as the Christ Entity. You remember some of these talks that we had late last summer? (Yes).

This is not just a ONE Entity. This is a difficult subject because most individuals are accustomed to watering down essential truths, sometimes to such common denominators and as through as few simple words as possible, as to distort which is what happens with the religions, the beliefs: they evolve through time with your species and your race which is part of the natural process and evolution of those myths as they should be.

You understand yourselves to be more than that one individual identity at any given time, do you not? You have at least that basic understanding that you are made up of many different traits and characteristics and that you undergo a variety if intents and desires and that your psychological makeup is far larger than the boundaries of the ego through which you operate on a daily basis, correct? (Yes).

It stands to reason at the same time that your true self, your source self is also made up of all the characteristics and the traits of the personalities that it generates and naturally creates. Thus it too is made up of a multitude of selves. Do you understand that?

It would be in the long run, far more beneficial instead of trying to communicate with an inner self or a higher self or a grander self that indeed you stretch the boundaries of your imagination and viewed this process and this inner mythos as being a set of inner selves and higher selves and the grander selves and of oversouls. Do you understand?

ANDREA: No I don’t.

LIDA: No.

KRIS: Let us put it this way, you know that even though you are a singular identity you are composed of a multitude of aspects. So you are indeed multi-dimensional individuals, you are multi-layered.

The same must and should still apply to your inner self or inner selves truly, as well as the higher selves for they too are composed of a multitude of characteristics, of traits and a variety of aspects, some of which is YOU. Do you understand that?

Yes.

So, in that light it would be far better to understand that you have higher selves and inner selves as true multidimensional characters. Do you understand that process?

Yes.

Indeed the idea of connecting with ONE inner self, ONE higher self is in the long run self defeating. Do you understand?

The whole of the universe is literally filled with consciousness and individuals who seek to connect with that inner reality often fail because they themselves are a COLLECTIVE of consciousness, not just ONE and though they understand that partially, they then seek to reduce the enormous, multidimensionality of the source self or true self into ONE specific thing. Even though they themselves may understand that they are multidimensional. Do you understand the difference?

Yes.

So by opening your minds and your souls to the multidimensional source of these inner lives that you have, you are then able to have at your disposal that much more energy in ways that you have yet to fathom. Do you understand so far?

ANDREA: yes. I have a question though. Does that mean two different people actually have inner selves which are the same or which cross over? For instance, if Lida and I have our physical selves does that mean that our inner selves may be the same in certain area?

KRIS: In certain areas but at the same time each self is entirely individualistic because that is the nature of personality, of individualism, that is its whole purpose. Though you might share common selves you still have the uniqueness of individuality because it is expressed through your consciousness, through your personality, through your attitudes, through your convictions and through the eyes of your soul? Do you understand? Even though you might be psychologically part of the same system of upper selves. Do you understand?

Yes.

KRIS: So no amount of individuality or uniqueness is ever lost in or to the universe. Each iota of individual identity is highly respected because it is another method through which All That Is finds itself. Does that make sense to you?

Yes.

KRIS: Indeed, now you may have a multitude of other aspects, some of which are entirely psychological. Do you understand that?

LIDA: What do you mean by psychological?

KRIS: Because some of those aspects are not necessarily non-physical, so you have various aspects to your personality that flow in and out of your consciousness, specific traits, specific characteristics that make you uniquely you. But then there are other portions of your multi-dimensional selves that may also appear in three dimensional space time.

If we return to our earlier depiction of nature states, animal guides, water, animal, tree, bear, raven, spirit guides, animal guides that communicated with ancient members or members of ancient cultures, it can be said that these are aspects of those VERY INDIVIDUALS that have taken on the guise of wise animal teacher. Do you understand?

This does not stop. This process, it does not end or stop at ancient cultures but it goes on, well beyond those boundaries.

LIDA: I believe that we STILL have it because I have a strong affinity to go to a tree and hug it and get back all kinds of facts.

KRIS: Indeed and there are still more. The problem, the major problem is that many people tend to label such experiences into generic terms. For instance, if the teaching aspect of one particular person takes the guise of that particular person’s mythologies and let’s say that said individual is of Judeo Christian background and has strong imagery relating to the icons within that religious background. Say perhaps Saints or other spiritual figure heads, even perhaps angels then those portions of that very individual will take the guise of most intense reflection for that person and some may be as clear as an angelic being, as a Saintly person to communicate a deep guidance and teaching to that person. Do you understand?

The problem herein lies in that often the person believes that the form that was used, the mask that was worn is the authentic item because they tend to want to classify and label and believe so strongly. Do you understand that?

We suggest that you take a small break and we will return.

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KRIS: The human personality has such a bank of potentials that you are unawares of for a variety of reasons, that there are times when you actually do feel lost, the rest of [these] potentials, the rest of [these] tools and talents whilst at the same times all of these are at your psychological finger tips. There are so many interesting and powerful aspects and characteristics to the human personality that you would literally be astounded not at those potentials but astounded at your being unaware of them.

You literally live in a sea of energy and potential and people are often entirely blind to that fact because you have cut yourselves off from this vast ocean of potentials. As we were saying earlier, your own inner selves have been finding ways to reach you for countless millennia. In some cultures this is done through the animal guides and the spirit teachers and so on and so forth. In other cultures they are found by taking on the guise of spiritual and religious icons and still the process will forever continue because it is your true lifeline to ancient fonts of wisdom and knowledge that reaches far beyond your ideas of selfhood. Herein lies the stumbling block to discovering these inner dimensions to your being. You think of yourselves in too narrow of terms. Your ideas of selfhood are so narrow that you fail to recognize that you have unlimited selves and energy available to you, complete with original wisdom all of which is at your finger tips to enhance your lives and your ideas about yourselves.

As we were saying earlier there have always been individuals, consciousness that has sought to help guide you. These are also tied into whom and what you are and still retain their own uniqueness and individuality while being a part of yourself or yourselves. You are accustomed to thinking of yourself as ‘ME’ and THEM and THOSE things and THAT world. Do you understand?

You would NOT think that when you see a tree that this is your tree self and even though the energy and the consciousness in the tree is uniquely itself it is still part of you as the perceiver, as the observer.

In that light, to that effect, it is conceivable that for you [pointing to Andrea] this is your Andrea self and for you [pointing to Lida] this is your Lida self. And yet you are still uniquely individuals, each with your own traits and characteristics and at that level there is no conflict. Now because your ideas of selfhood are indeed fragile, you feel you must protect it, only to realize often that in protecting what you thought was a fragile selfhood, you have also choked off the rest of your being. Do you follow?

LIDA: Can you give us an example?

KRIS: Again, you do not normally think of yourself as also including Andrea. This is your Andrea self. [Talking to Lida and pointing at Andrea]. Do you understand? You maintain a distinct separateness but you do not think to also maintain a distinct shared-ness.

LIDA: I think I have felt this shared-ness.

KRIS: It indeed even goes beyond that. This is another part of yourself, as Andrea is her own individual. It does not impinge upon your own individuality and yet you still ARE part of each other. Do you understand?

NOT only at the biological level since you are mother and daughter but at that deep psychological and psychic level you are also each other’s selves.

ANDREA: Does that pertain to anyone that you meet in the world?

KRIS: Indeed.

LIDA: Everyone but to the same degree?

KRIS: In various degrees you are still parts of each other. You are still individualistic, yourself a different identity BUT at the same time part of each and EVERY other separate identity on this planet AND THEY are part of you as you are part of them. Do you understand that?

LIDA: Is this through the overall consciousness?

KRIS: You are part of ‘All That Is’, an expression of ‘All That Is’. Everyone is an expression of ‘All That Is’ and everyone indeed expresses ‘All That Is’ in their own unique individualistic fashion. You are still functioning separately from each other without realizing that you are all a part of greater tapestry. You are ALL threads in the very CUT of the larger tapestry of life. Each one thread is unique in itself but also part of a much larger item. Does that make some sense to you?

Now, we suggested earlier that there are portions of yourselves that try to reach you, try to teach you and we are speaking collectively here, and try to assist in helping you remember your connection, your link to ALL of life. Even though you are expressing yourselves individually, you are still tied into the fabric of life.

Many such individuals have come and gone and they will always be with your race regardless of the culture or civilization that you are building. In some other cultures they are sometimes referred to as Buddhas, Bodhisattvas or Christs or other religious icons. Do you follow so far?

Now even though you might be accustomed to think of yourselves only in an individualistic manner and you may grasp the idea that other portions of your being might be doing something that you know nothing of, then it is also conceivable that there are other portions of your being that take on the roles of the teachers.

There are, in a manner of speaking, many different groupings. We refer to them as clans, one of them of which is the nine families of consciousness expressed by Seth and there are still many more. There are at least seventeen such clans that operate within the many dimensions in which you are found and they still are tied into yourselves, part of yourselves that have a unique purpose. Do you follow so far?

Consider this; you have different forms of government, you have the municipal government, you have the provincial [state] government, you have the federal government. Within each structure, individuals have set or design occupations and purpose. Some are clerical, some managerial, some are ministerial and within each one again there are different categories. Do you follow? Each one is assigned different duties so to speak.

In terms of consciousness, if you like, there are certain aspects of your own selves that have always had a specific function or duty. To function in the capacity that is best determined by the characteristics and some of these happen to be as the guides and teachers, unique to your own selves and in that capacity there are at least seventeen different clans. These unique aspects of your own selves fall into and they occupy themselves with the purpose of guidance and teachings in various capacities. And these are again part of even the larger structures, some of which belong to different categories such as the Christ entity that may take on many guises in its own right. So this is a very complex system. As complex as any government body that you can imagine.

Fortunately their sole purpose is NOT to find ways to TAX you and line their wallets. Their purpose is to consistently shed light and guidance in those areas of your personal lives that need those teachings AND in this capacity WE are part of these seventeen clans because we fit into the categories of those teacher aspects, guidance aspects, part of your lives yet ALSO able to maintain our own individualistic character just as you are. In that way we can enjoy your own lovely selves as you can enjoy our lovely melodious character. Do you follow?

So we are trying to establish a gradual understanding of some of the deeper complexities of the overall developing personality in a manner that is consistent though out all manifestations of the race and in your species. This goes well beyond the simple understanding of only one human expression. Do you follow?

Now take another small break as this has been somewhat easier.

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KRIS: The main idea behind this is to stir the individual, shake the individual out of his or her complacency.

LIDA: You have done that Kris.

KRIS: There are many times when highly valuable, expansive material is presented sometimes by others and yet it is overlooked because it will announce by its very nature that if you read and you seek to understand the material then it will shake the very foundation of what you understand and what you want to understand about reality and few dare travel in those dimensions!

And even many beloved teachers before have laid such a thing as those who read the material will often gravitate around the issues that are the least of all challenging because they fear that their lives and their perceptions of life are so drastically altered that they would lose their precious sense of selfhood. And as we have described moments before, that is the problem to begin with! You think of yourselves in too small of terms! Do you follow?

Imagine the frog at the bottom of the well looks up and sees a small section of sky and thinks that that is the whole of the world. Until one day the farmer’s cow happens upon the well and the cow notices the frog at the bottom and they engage in conversation. The cow is describing the world and eventually discusses bodies of water other than the pond that the frog is accustomed to, or the well. Do you understand?

Now the frog only knows its own well and it asks the cow “How big are the other bodies of water” and the cow says “Oh they are SO big”. The frog says” I will try to blow myself up as big as the other ponds that you have described” and to make a long story short, the bigger the description of the ponds that the cow has seen, the bigger the frog gets until eventually the frog has blown itself so big that it explodes because it cannot conceive of anything beyond the walls of the well that it grew up in. Do you understand?

Now first of all, there is no danger of you blowing yourselves up if you tried to understand the larger parameters of your being but there is a danger by wishing to stay too long in the confines of your own psychological prison. We are seeking to provide that material or that information that enables you and not specifically ONLY the two of you but others who may read and that there is such a vast expanse of selfhood and personhood to whom and what they are that literally it is a miracle that they may not have ventured beyond the walls of their own wells so to speak. Yet all is there before you. Does that make sense to you?

Now, these seventeen other [clans], there are more but we will stick to these now, these seventeen other clans are composed of aspects of individuality that do teach in a very many different ways how you can return to your own original understanding of yourselves. With the passage of time and the changes in cultures and societies leads often or is transformed into cults and religions and very rigid bodies of information where there now needs to be changes again and again. Your present society unfortunately seems to be overly focused upon a very narrow vision of self or selfhood so there is a time again to bring about a shift, a change and an extension of these understandings of yourselves. And you will do so because your very survival as a species depends upon how you expand and enrich your concepts of selfhood whether you want to or not. And it is in your species best interest to go through these stages, these labor pains of sorts in order to make for yourselves the necessary preparations to literally metamorphose from the caterpillar and the cocoon into the butterflies that you truly are. Do you understand?

It is not an overnight or a simple process but it will make itself more and more evident. It will NOT make itself evident in the manner in which you may build bigger buildings, faster jets, better weapons but in the manner in which you color yourselves as individuals and as societies, in a manner that includes your natural world. Do you have questions?

LIDA: I just have a comment that we have a LONG way to go.

KRIS: Yes it will take time but it will also be a journey of incredible discovery and adventure and literally miraculous evolution in a non-Darwinian sense. You will actually move beyond those simplistic interpretations and misinterpretations.

Now we believe that is sufficient for this evening. It laid some type of foundation that can be built upon and expanded. Suffice it to say, you are far more connected and related to the physical and non-physical universe than you ever thought possible, whether you thought of yourself as one self or many selves. And with that we leave you to the many selves who dream wonderful dreams with you.

Indeed have a pleasant evening.

Session Ends

Exercise in Time

March 1, 2004

Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois
Transcribed by Mark C. Bukator
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on March 1, 2004
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© Copyright 2004 Avion Rising Inc.

Andrea, Lida and Mark in attendance. Galo phones in the middle of the session to say he won’t be coming.

Topic: is a continuation of previous sessions pertaining to ‘Time’. This session includes a small exercise and includes topics such as: Self, Reality, Reading, Education, Imagination, Children, enforced beliefs and the schooling system.

7:21 PM Kris arrives a little early and catches us off guard. I don’t even know where the recorder is and have to find it and set it up while he waits. I then have to turn on the camcorder which is something new that we are experimenting with.

KRIS: Now that your precious gizmos are all organized, perhaps we can shed some continued light upon the matter of the “unfolding personality”.

Do understand that if you stick this out we are aiming to provide a certain foundation to view the human personality structure in a different light than the one that you are accustomed to, thus helping you perceive reality, your interactions with reality and your relationship with the SOURCE of that reality, in an entirely different perspective.

We have for the last several weeks now been speaking about time and of different structures of time in an attempt to shed some degree of light into how there are different ways to view your relationship with time itself and thus give you a different sampling of how the world can be different than the manner in which you are accustomed to view it. Does that make sense?

Indeed then, by understanding some of these differences in time structures and even others that we have yet to explore, you may begin to glimpse that there is more to yourselves than you have surmised up to date. By utilizing some of the information of time already provided concerning these different structures of time, you may wish to experiment and utilize these other perspectives from which to modify the experiences that you have with your selves and as a consequence, experience a slightly different type of reality.

We have given but some small exercises in that light and perhaps we can provide you with another small interesting one. So far in reviewing the material on time you may be able to grasp that even your own neurological pathways and patterns can be influenced in the manner in which you view time, thus exerting a modification, even if slight, to your perception of reality already. Does that make sense? And by getting a feel for the different time descriptions that we have provided, you can learn to ride the breakers like a surfer, easily switching from one crest to another as you listen and read about the descriptions that we have provided. That will enable you to get a further sense of how different perceptions influence your own neurological and biological space in the world. Do you follow so far?

Once you acquire a good sense of being able to surf from one description to another then we suggest the following
Thus by getting a tactile-like reference, both within the neurological and biological bodies, you begin then to develop one of the inner senses in a most practical manner. Once you are sufficiently able to get the gist of all this in a physical manner, then you may move on to this other exercise in the modification of time perceptions.

Now, we strongly advise that this NEVER be practiced whilst you are driving a vehicle of any sort.

MARK: Darn, I was hoping to get through traffic faster.

KRIS: AND we may even suggest that when you practice this that you stay on the sidewalk. Now, the suggestion IS that you find your cardinal points, your North, South, East and West and stand at one particular corner and get your bearings and try to do this while the intersection is NOT flooded with masses of pedestrians. Perhaps you may find a quieter intersection.

MARK: Or a park?

KRIS: As long as it is an intersection. Once you have gotten your bearings, you may try this with your eyes closed or open. If you do this with your eyes closed then perhaps you may also hold a hat in your hand and get a few quarters from passers by. .

Now, once your eyes are closed, or open, bring about, tap into the bodily sensations of at least ONE OR MORE of these various fluxes of time and allow yourself to stand within these various time currents and from your being, standing at this intersection, allow the one or two or three fluxes of time that you have called forth from your own biological and neurological references and ALLOW the currents and the fluxes to actually flow like rivers to the fullness of the intersection, reaching out to ALL four avenues, extending forth from your perceptions and LITERALLY altering the fabric of your perceptions of reality. And NO you do not need to ingest Mexican Insanity Peppers.

(Mark laughs heartily: That is Homer Simpson! An episode that Serge and I had just watched while eating dinner prior to this session).

KRIS: But what is important is that you utilize your cognitive perceptions to follow the changes as they pour out of each of these various streams or rivers of time perceptions and note how any ONE of the streets that flow out of that intersection and everything on them, the trees, cars, people, buildings, the asphalt, the cement, the bricks, the air, the clouds, may even subtly change to your perceptions. WE do suggest that you do NOT step into the intersection, stay where you are and only hold this for a few moments, if you wish to do this on a repeated basis, only occasionally.

This will occasion (verb meaning to bring about, cause) changes in your perceptive mechanisms and your critical faculties, mental, intellectual, rational, intuitive, sufficiently to open your own minds and awareness to other potentials for obviously if you notice any changes along any of the currents of time that have flowed out from your perceptions and it has influenced your perception of those streets and their contents, then it does not suggest that you are hallucinating, unless you have been smoking, but it does suggest that through your own perceptions you alter a certain level of the fabric of reality and it also means that since this opening into the fabric of reality is perceivable then is it also not conceivable that there are other layers of reality other than the ones that you see on a daily basis?

This exercise enables a certain peeling away of one set of perceptions upon reality through your efforts but revealing that there is still another type of reality within that one, a slightly less camouflaged reality. Do you follow?

Now again, do this only for a few moments on an occasional basis. This may even lead you to question the nature of reality that much more. So you need a certain amount of time to reflect because all of what has occurred obviously would not have occurred entirely into the one focused personality that you are for other layers of your own personality have also come forth and shared in the experience. Do you follow?

Indeed then this can also lead to other questions, for what we are suggesting eventually may lead into the very taking apart of the very fabric of space time in a certain manner of speaking. For of course you will not do that with a hammer and a crow bar. You would do it with the instruments of consciousness which leads to yet other discussions about the very nature of the self. For if you can alter a certain degree of perceptions about reality and find the opportunity to take it to other layers of that reality, it not only necessitates asking “What is the nature of reality” but “What is the nature of the self who views that reality?”. So in your words, you could be getting into some DEEP stuff.

So we will give you a few moments of break.

7:50 PM Break Starts

During break Lida asks why it has to be an intersection and not a forest or a park or a backyard or some place else?

7:54 PM Break Ends

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KRIS: Now then to satisfy your curiosity we suggested an intersection, the intersection could be in a cemetery, it could be an intersection at the North Pole, the idea of an intersection is that it will facilitate a greater flow for your experience, will give your energy a direction. Your intersection could be in a park or even in a forest but the idea is to ALLOW that these four directions are before you. Secondly, by visually, if your eyes are open, by visually reaching out to the horizon in any direction, you may notice that your sense of what you can see has just expanded, as if you are somehow able to tangibly see beyond the horizon because a certain portion of your own ego will be able to travel each of the streams that you send out. So this automatically involves a certain level of projection of consciousness. Do you follow?

So this type of exercise is indeed multi-layered and multi-purposed and will give you much food for thought. Much of a forum for questioning the very nature of time and space as it appears before you, as it CAN appear before you, in a slightly modified fashion, leaving to you wondering “What really is reality”. Since you might be able to, somehow or other, bend it ever so slightly, much better than Beckam. .

You might be able to arrive at some surprising observations where the very weight of your observation additionally challenges any pre-conceived notions that you may already entertain about the nature of reality and any questions along those lines MUST include the nature of the self that perceives that reality before it.

WHOM is seeing, perceiving, altering, bending, modifying that reality? Therefore, whom is creating and re-creating that reality before it? Does that make sense?

Now that is an entirely different playground. There you begin to grasp the nature of the playground of consciousness, one of which is reality. Much as you would step into a child’s playground and see the slide, the monkey bars, the sand pit and any other device deemed appropriate for a playground.

In these cases then your convictions, the nature of those convictions, your ability to modify your perceptions, then becomes the sand, the bucket, the little pail where you can use the sand but create almost anything that your imagination senses with that sand. Be it a sand castle with one turret or a hundred. Do you understand?

Because reality is not much different than indeed the child’s imagination and what he or she can do with that little pail and that little shovel and that huge amount of sand. Do you understand?

So consciousness is indeed very malleable like plastic. You can form it, give it a shape depending upon the container that you pour that plastic into, depending upon the mold that you use. Do you understand?

Though that analogy may be somewhat crude, it is still highly applicable because that is what, in a manner of speaking, is what occurs with consciousness as it interfaces with and is formed and is poured into the mold of your convictions, your perceptions and so on. So the atoms and the molecules take on the shapes of the forms that build your physical reality from the blueprint of your imagination. Just like the ordinary wet sand in the pit can become a great Imperial Castle because of the imagination of the child.

Now to most adults it is insignificant but to the child it is a great creation indeed to take grains of sand and create a castle! You still use that magical propensity within your mind to take invisible atoms and molecules, in this case sand and create other forms yet. And still we come back to the question “If the nature of reality is SO malleable than what is it truly” and further more “How is it that there can be a self that can do this” and “What is the nature of that self”?

So we will take another small break to give your writing fingers some rest and your imagination some fuel and we will be back shortly.

8:00 PM Second Break Starts

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8:10 PM Third Session Starts

KRIS: Now then, all of this is actually MEANT to lead you to question what you assume is real. To question:

Whom does the assuming about reality?

Whom is the YOU that perceives?

Whom is the YOU that does the identification as SELF?

What is SELF personality?

And though many people would not venture to question this subject matter for fear that it would some how or other upset the carefully built up house of cards, still there come times in people’s lives where a mighty wind blows and the house of cards, however carefully built, falls apart.

So we are hoping to provide some information that may help you better understand:

Whom and what is this SELF that you identify with?

What is its nature?

What are some of its properties?

What does it do?

Thereby assisting the individual to understand perhaps only that much more about the nature of his or her identity. An identity, by the way which naturally creates bi-products such as the reality projected from this identity, this self and how does this self contribute on a larger scale with all of the other selves that participate in the creation and the co-creation of the world and of life as you understand it.

So though we realize that this may seem like a tall order indeed, it is far less complicated in the long run. But it does necessitate a certain level of deconstruction of the concepts that you hold about yourselves and to that end we have laid down some type of preliminary foundation with the information about the Nine Sisters which are integral components of that identity or self. So we may continually refer to that material and bring it back and expand upon it as part of this process because it is a Matrix of Essences literally hardwired into your very own consciousness. And whether you are physically incarnated or not, the essences described in the Nine Sisters always operate, always function for you, whether IN body or OUT of body or in your terminology whether dead or alive.

This is a function for you because the personality is not limited to your form an interpretation of the self. A certain layer of it is identified with the body in its physical body. So that means that the physical body is a physical manifestation of a PART of the personality with all of its traits and characteristics, its various shapes and physiques and the way those bodies define, as best they can, your desires and impulses, your energies which is still an ASPECT of what you would call the self or the soul, that which you are.

But indeed, what is this SOUL, this energy? Normally you identify with that which is reflected through your actions in the mirror for instance and how you identify with the ‘doer’ that, which DOES, that which acts, performs actions and generates consequences but there is MORE to you, of course. If that upper most layer manifested as the physical form, whit all that there is to you and what you are, then indeed all of your dreams and aspirations would be little more than the results of chemical interactions in your brains and you would literally be biological automatons, biological robots and that you most certainly are NOT. Do you follow?

So we hope then, over the next few weeks to be able to lead into some more interesting material that helps you identify with the greater sense of definition that you may yourself perceive once in a while, capturing that you are more than what you normally think of as yourselves and assist you in understanding how you can peel back some of the layers that you hide yourself under so that you can see in a better light, that which is hidden and not discussed. Does that help?

Indeed now, we will ask you have any questions for this is your lucky night.

MARK: I think that its kind of ironic that the thing that eludes us the most and is the most foreign to us is the self and our concept of the self.

KRIS: Your society prides itself in its massive documentations and piles of information about what is a this and what is a that and your sciences again pride themselves in being able to wrench from nature and reality its very secrets and yet that very thing which they are, they do not know. Does that not make sense?

You pride yourselves as a species at being able to map out and understand the human genome only to have your carefully laid out maps suddenly reveal that what you think you know is but a tiny fraction of its true nature. You think that you understand the nature of atoms and molecules and you refuse to see that your thoughts and your feelings and your emotions actually INFLUENCE those very same atoms and molecules. If you did acknowledge this you would have to admit, your sciences would have to admit that all this time what they thought was pure objective scientific reality was simply showing them what they wanted to see in the first place. You see, nature has a unique ironic sense of humor. When you think that you can pry its secrets away, it eventually reveals that what you thought were its secrets were merely your ideas about it. So then there are indeed great and small mysteries that fit all in the same cup.

MARK: How do we know what’s true?

KRIS: How do you know what is true is true and what is not true is not true?

LIDA: Can we trust our feelings?

KRIS: Indeed, as long as you understand that THE TRUE NATURE OF REALITY IS YOUR PERCEPTION OF IT. That is the fact! The fact is not that physical reality is an objective, external and concrete system. Its appearance is indeed true in that, but its inner truths are that this reality springs FROM your own perceptions. Once you understand this particular principle you need no longer be at the mercy of events, conditions and circumstances, for events and circumstances need not affect you as they have done in the past. Do you understand?

We do NOT mean for you to test this in a manner where you will walk a red light for then you are only deluding yourselves that much more.

LIDA: Do we do this mentally only?

KRIS: You can, using that site (intersection exercise) that we provided you earlier, actually understand that the apparent solidity of reality is not as solid to your inner senses and therefore you have a far greater degree of influence on matter because matter is made up of the same kind of consciousness as in your thoughts. Of course, you do not expect this two hundred pound stone table to suddenly turn into a marshmallow but you understand that the atoms and the molecules that compose it are free flowing. They are not necessarily attached to that form.

Your perceptions create the form that the atoms and the molecules flow in and out of, giving that physical appearance to your physical senses to create a solid object. But its true reality is not as solid as its appearance and the same applies to events and conditions in your lives. So the apparent objective nature is not so objective anymore. Situations are not things that happen to you but they are an interpretation of certain inner conditions within your psyche that gives them that form. Does that make some sense?

Once you play with those concepts then indeed you can be a much freer individual but you need to get your toes wet. You need to actually know what the water is like before you swim in it. That is why we are making these small suggestions and exercises.

ANDREA: Kris is this in a sense like, you know how they say that we only use ten percent of our brain, is this like actually using the rest of it? In other words we will be using more of our brains and basically functioning at a higher capacity?

KRIS: You are always using one hundred percent of your brain. A small percentage of it is dedicated to the maintaining of your physical form as well as the physical appearance of reality, individually and collectively but the other percentages of your brain are not only pre-occupied with maintaining of the unconscious bodily functions but also the sending and the receiving of signals and the free flow of consciousness, not only around you but through you, so that you are always engaged individually and collectively in the formation of your reality.

If you truly were using merely ten to eleven percent of your brain’s capacity you would most likely be at the level of a chicken and therefore you would have to run from Colonel Sander, using the rest of the chicken brain! . Do you understand?

Indeed so never fear that you must try somehow or other to kick start that rest of your brain. It is in operation.

LIDA: As an example, when you are studying, you are only using part of your brain.

KRIS: You are using a certain level of focusing.

LIDA: How do you extend this?

KRIS: For instance, many students have learnt to read a page by following the eyes on the typed line. Do you understand? Now, by using the natural ability of the eye in conjunction with the enormous capacity of the brain it is possible to actually scan an entire page of typed text in seconds.

LIDA: Can you retain it? How do you do that?

KRIS: That takes a little more practice and use of those innate qualities but you have in your school system been introduced to the notion that you must NOT read any more because you will probably not retain it.

LIDA: So you won’t.

KRIS: Indeed, it is an enforced belief. Thus you learn to read approximately five words then move them over to the other end of the line and then to the first five words of the other line and then to the end of that line and so on and so forth and secondly you have also been taught that you must WORD, physically tongue each word in the sentence which slows down the process. By that time your brain could have been reading thirty pages because your brain automatically scans every word and it has the ability to assemble in a non-syntactical manner, in an intuitive manner and a manner that is most surprising. You have been taught to read text from left to right, left to right.

When your brain sees an entire page of text it not only reads it from top to bottom but in a funnel (V) shape and the words are reorganized in a way that makes emotional sense to you. That is why when you are assigned a book to read and you hate being assigned a book, you force yourself to read it and you have the most difficult time in the world trying to retain HALF of what you read on the one page, never mind the entire volume! Because your emotions were against reading that book so they refused to organize the text for you. Do you understand? So your school system would produce more geniuses than you could shake a stick at, Einstein or not, if it taps into the natural ability of the young individual to actually absorb material and not force them to read it in a certain fashion.

MARK: Can you help teach us to do that?

LIDA: Do you need to be young to do that?

KRIS: It is preferable to be young because the young mind is impressionable and if it is taught to actually perceive its studies in a way that it enjoys for the fun and the pleasure like building the sand castles in the sand box, then the lessons would be so quickly absorbed.

LIDA: But that child would be so terribly bored going to school.

KRIS: Indeed, your whole school system is not geared to producing intelligent children but your school system IS geared to produce children who follow the rules.

MARK: Stay within the lines! Don’t go outside the box!

KRIS: Do NOT draw outside the lines! Do NOT do your math any other way than what we have taught you! DO NOT understand what we have not explained to you. Do not understand what we have not told you to understand. Do you understand?

LIDA: Let’s say that you have a child that is two to three years old, before the are sucked into the educational system, what can you do for this child?

KRIS: There are Montesori schools. There are many different private types of institutions that teach in a different manner, that use the innate abilities. There is also the possibility of home tutoring, either by the parent or by other qualified individuals whom will see and be able to tap into the resources of that individual and they can even be trained but that will take time because your educational system must enforce the rules because it gets it funding primarily either from government or other affiliations.

MARK: Okay, let’s say ‘Hooked On Phonics’ and these other TV advertised systems to help kids read. Could we not devise a system for people to learn this?

KRIS: That is possible but it takes a deeper understanding of the innate qualities of the personality and how the personality functions before it gets trapped into the system so to speak. So it is an endeavour though your systems may not yet be on the ball for this type of system BUT it is possible because this type of potential exists in the individual. It is a matter of enabling the innate abilities to be the teacher as opposed to forcing the child to follow the system.

MARK: So we need to de-construct the collective beliefs?

KRIS: It takes time.

ANDREA: How do we as adults improve our reading skills?

KRIS: By learning firstly to respond to your spontaneous child nature! You may even begin by buying a box of crayons and a coloring book and getting in touch with that fun loving, coloring child and even if you do draw outside the lines, allow yourself to do that. This does in a fun manner in a fun project way help de-construct some of the basic guidelines that have been instilled in the individual. Do you understand?

Smell the Crayloas because they will trigger many memories and learn to play. We do not suggest that you go and buy your own private sandbox but if you do have young nephews and nieces, take them to the sand box and pretend to help them to learn to build sand castles whilst in reality you are following the child’s own actions and creating your own sand castles. Do you understand? You may even mentally, meditatively communicate with the child in you and seek its assistance. Learn from its way of viewing the world and relish those deep imaginations because the child uses many different kinds of imaginations and please have FUN.

If your educational system taught children in a fun manner and made a game of learning, many of them would probably still be in the school system. Once you go to school the fun is whittled away for this is serious business, your grades could be affected and you could FAIL “kindergarten”!

MARK: I’ve seen that done too.

KRIS: Indeed, now does that make some fun sense to you? You see reality is your playground so if you use it as such, then your enjoyment of reality will be increased proportionately but when it becomes a serious matter the fun is all sucked out of it and it becomes very a very dry, old prune-like thing that people dislike because they take no fun in playing with reality anymore. Do you understand that? So now we suggest that you all go have some fun, some good KICK ASS FUN and enjoy creating magnificent sand castles and we wish you a most wonderful week.

8:45 PM Session Ends

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