Friday Evening Chat – Colorado Seth Conference

September 26, 2003

Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois
Transcribed by Marcy Singer
Recorded in Colorado, Friday September 26, 2003
© Copyright 2004 Avion Rising Inc.

Notes: the Colorado Seth Conference, originally called the Rocky Mountain Seth Conference for the first 10 years, has always been an extremely enjoyable and friendly place. The Conference is usually held at The Iron Horse Resort Retreat, at 9, 200 feet altitude, not far from all the great skying sites in the area. People at the Conference, including the Conference Committee are just marvelous!

Everyone has always been very supportive of Kris and our efforts. Whenever we hold an impromptu evening in one of the meeting rooms, we may start out with 5 or 6 people and very quickly end up with 50, 60 or more. The camaraderie and the fun provide an atmosphere where Kris can chat and share with the crowd in ways he doesn’t get to do at home. Kris loves to work a crowd, exchanging and discussing ideas and displaying his own brand of humor.

These evenings are particularly fun because Kris picks a topic, sometimes right from a discussion going on in the room and then runs with it, weaving his own brand of wisdom, satire and philosophy into a whole that often leaves the participants wanting more. Now, because of so many people discussing sometimes all at once, it makes it difficult to clearly make out what some of the questions are, which explains why some audience questions are left with question marks or just blank!

This was the second impromptu evening that year at the Colorado Seth Conference, and the third presentation by Kris in 2 days. The previous day he had offered his official talk on ‘Taraa Healing Energy’ and then that Thursday evening he had offered an open house chat in another guests’ room, which also turned out to be quite interesting (transcripts coming soon)!

KRIS: We thank you once again for sharing your gracious presences. You were but a few moments ago speaking about time, and you take great pleasure in organizing your lives, your pleasures, your passions, your sorrows, your joys, and your memories of all of these things according to the fashions of time. And you forget that though you look back in time and you look forward into the future, that in reality your notions of time are somewhat slow.

There is also a very good biological reason that you organize these events, circumstances and conditions of your lives into linear sequential orders. In some manner you are interpreting the neurological processes and pulses that fire into your brain at not only specific frequencies but at a very rhythmic intervals, that none necessarily travel faster and some slower in your present circumstance; but that there is a deep biological reason to the flow of information from all of the cells and their structures in your physical form, from the nerve endings at the very end of your toes or fingertips or noses or ears, the nerve impulses travel(ing) from one end to the other of the body and jump the synapses in a very specific manner, one that is consistent with your collective worldviews regarding your physical form.

That is further interpreted into your apparent need to sequence everything into time categories. And obviously at one particular level this is not a problem as long as all of the events, conditions and circumstances of your lives meet those types of expectations. But you sometimes forget that what you see and experience about life and reality is not necessarily the big picture but that picture is only that you have become accustomed to translate at the neurological biological level, that which matches the frequency of those pulses traveling through the nerve endings and the synapses into the brain.

And you also forget that you have unique abilities to modify and change those synaptic intervals and the frequency of those pulsations. And when you do these things then suddenly more of reality makes itself present because you suddenly rearrange some of the frequencies of your neurological pulses so that that which also coordinates itself to the slight modification somehow or other can slip into the screen of your vision.

Consider for a moment that your perceptive mechanism which may include far more than your eyes, operates at a very specific frequency, much like the monitor or the television screen reproduces images, signals, or pulses at a very specific megahertz, which allows it to flicker fast enough so that your eyes or better yet the rods and cones in your eyes do not see any disturbances or anomalies at that level. Does that make sense to you?

(Question inaudible).

KRIS:Perhaps we need to re-attune your own frequencies.

Now if you were to change not only the frequency of the monitor but that which feeds the imagery to the monitor you might see other things, and the same can happen with the biological neurological mechanism in your human forms if and when those frequencies can be slightly altered to enable you to perceive things in reality that actually already exist but are not perceived because of the frequencies you are attuned to. Does that make some sense to you?

You operate on a daily basis upon a regular set of frequencies. And if you were to pay attention you might notice that there are occasions when you sense a certain inner acceleration within you. If you do not sense such things you can easily practice and attune yourselves to it. Those slight accelerations of consciousness correspond to a slightly different frequency that can still be attuned to from within your biological form, and your perceptions can tap into it, which might lead you to gather information that you sometimes consider as coming from your inner selves, your unconsciousness, etc. etc.

So in one way what we are doing with Joseph is to slightly modify some of the neurological processes and pulsations when we come in sufficient psychological contact, which is then transferred into his body in that manner. Each and every one of you is able to make such fine attunements so that you can start perceiving other aspects or portions of reality that actually do still exist but do not necessarily appear to your perceptive mechanisms because you are not attuned to that frequency. Do you understand?

And by playing with such fine and refined attunements you might easily also pick up other things by attuning some of the frequencies or by accelerating them, and you can even play with this by learning to observe not only your thoughts and how those thought concepts literally splash onto the screen of your mind’s eye so you can see in a visual data form, but you can, in observing this flow of your thoughts get a fairly good idea or sense of the type of frequency that is used so that you can draw these to you in the same manner that you would play with the dial on the radio to go from 100 to 105 then to 103 to 104 until you hit that 103.5 frequency. Do you understand?

So it is possible for you to play with some of those frequencies and it necessitates that you pay attention to your thoughts, thought processes in a manner that you are slightly detached as if you were in observer mode. From there get a feel for the particular speed of the flow so that you may even mentally make a slight suggestion of making it go faster and observe what happens in your consciousness. Make it go slower in slight increments and play with the experiences that you gather from such experiments. You might even like to stretch a regular frequency much like you’d put something on slow motion, which means that you are simply stretching that particular frequency. Do you understand?

So you can play and modify in small increments these parts of your consciousness in observer mode using your own consciousness and perceptive mechanism as your laboratory. If you wish you may even keep a certain log of some of your observations with such play and see what portion of reality you are tuning into today or tomorrow or perhaps you can even tune into an extension of today or anything else that comes to your mind. How do you think remote viewers function? In a manner not unlike this though the words and descriptions may sound different, they are tuning into a particular frequency.

You may even desire to tune into your regular frequency, but try and make it go in reverse so that you can stretch the boundaries of your own imaginations and consciousnesses. Each particular brand of frequency contained within each frequency within you is also tied into some of the frequencies experienced by your own probable selves, which you might sometimes as your re-incarnational selves, counterparts, this and that. They can easily be viewed in that light.

The main point of all of this is that through all of these manipulations, however slight of consciousness your experience of time will change. The way you perceive sequential events can be very different, but the game is in the playing. Experiment. Do not be afraid to view other aspects of reality both within yourself and through the greater screen of existence. Do you follow?

Do you have some questions perhaps?

QUESTION: How can we avoid then the aging process?

KRIS: That you cannot avoid.

There is also, or are also, certain principles found in nature that eventually the natural phenomenon of the world needs to be recycled. We know there are groups of individuals who profess secrets of longevity and ascension and so on and so forth. But nonetheless the type of consciousness you have gathered to your physical forms really does not belong to you. It belongs to the earth and must be returned to the earth, so that other personalities who take birth can then draw those elements to themselves. You would not want these souls to go around naked, would you?

They need a specific type of apparatus that enables them to function within the boundaries of physical existence as you know it. If for instance you wish to explore the depths of the ocean, you know it would be a terrible faux pas to simply dive in. You need first of all practice to be able to maneuver in that environment then you need to don specific type of suit and then you need to learn how to manipulate with that suit in that environment until you are ready. Otherwise you will not survive down there. And you may also scare fish.

Now, when a personality with necessary agreements and contracts and union rules carefully explained about choosing a parent or parents, then that entity or personality that takes birth begins to create its physical body from the DNA matrix of the parents and the elements of nature. That is how it is done. You understand that part? And they need the physical form as their suit to go about and enjoy the world as much as you need the deep sea diving suit to enjoy the environment at the depths of the ocean. And when you are done with your life then your physical matter returns to its original form, which is consciousness and is reintegrated in the elements of the world to become the fabric and the tissue that weaves the body of another personality. So some of your experiences that have now been included into the molecules of consciousness, those quantum particles, become part of the new personality’s experience just as each of the particles that make up your bodies have at one time belonged to other life forms and unconsciously those many experiences still form part of the data base of knowledge you are born with. Do you understand?

Now to finish that answer. There will come a time when the physical form that you have, that you maintain, is no longer able to carry and give you the experiences necessary to further your education in creation, so you will discard it and you will incarnate and create a new body to enable you to continue your journey. Do you understand?

So eventually you do have to give up the suit.

AUDIENCE: For a better suit.

KRIS: One that is functional in new ways. Indeed. So you may consider Nature the ultimate dry cleaning place.

QUESTION: When do you know when you are finished with your suit?

KRIS: Each individual in their own way has an unconscious knowing as to when would be good conditions to continue to take the next step up. That may even change during the course of one lifetime. You may be on the verge of a horrible accident that does not happen in your probability. In another it may have, but in this one it did not. At that moment you have chosen in this example that no, you are not ready to check out, to bring your suit to the cleaners, you will keep it for awhile because it is still very useful for your purposes.

There will come a time when you will recognize that it is time to leave behind this version of reality and go to a sequel, and we can guarantee you, these types of sequels have nothing as boring as Hollywood versions of Sequel two, three, and four of Rambo.

QUESTION: There is a belief, a common belief, that one has to die before the reincarnation, and my understanding of course is that it’s more of a kaleidoscope, so if you could explain this view of reincarnation a little more.

KRIS: The idea that you have to leave this one body to take another still follows far too closely into your linear interpretations of life. Even while you still have one body, you may even unconsciously send out a thread of consciousness perhaps through dream states, where you explore how one new life might be oh so well suited to new adventures and start sending of portions of your energy in that direction even before you have given up this body. This is often the case with people who suffer, not all, but some people who suffer from Alzheimer’s in your reality. That way they do not necessarily have to be conscious of the process of removing themselves from this body before they emerge into another.

Your lives are definitely not as limited and as constrained or set up as you might believe. You have far more leeway, flexibility, and power than you have ever possibly imagined.

QUESTION: Well then is that what possibly happens with walk-ins?

KRIS: Walk-ins is a rather narrow perception for a much bigger concept where you are entirely free to appear into other realities where you are entirely at liberty to create other forms for yourself in this or other dimensions, other probabilities. It is not that when you are tired of this body you jump out but another foreign personality will come in.

QUESTION: ???

KRIS: Indeed. But you do have a phenomenon where one aspect of your own being might recognize at one time or another that it is less well suited to the demands of the job than it may previously had assumed, therefore it will give way to other aspects of your own personality to continue the process. Do you understand?

QUESTION: So you create a fragment?

KRIS: This is far more than simply certain portions. Your whole self may decide because you find or recognize that you are not as suited as you thought for the job, to send the troops in, so to speak. Another portion of your entire personality that may actually be so closely aligned with your own that others will not know, or sometimes massive changes occur in the personality where people think something magnificent must have happened because you are far more present, you are far more loving, and so on and so forth.

QUESTION: A life changing, in our view, a life changing moment, a total reversal of….

KRIS: This is possible, but it is not that something is sitting on a cloud somewhere waiting to zero in on the first gullible nitwit who gives up his body. Do you understand what we are talking about? You are still involved with the whole self who simply sends in reinforcements and shores up the contours of that personality so that the experience is not necessarily wasted, but still enriches even the one who has decided to opt out. So you are always yourselves whether you are thinking you are a small self or a large self. You are still yourselves.

QUESTION (several people speaking): So another body, a person or entity does not walk into your body……it’s still you…….it’s you that walks into your body and you that leaves your body, is that correct Kris?

KRIS: Indeed. It may be MORE of you than you assumed initially, but it is still you.

QUESTION: Is it your ‘higher’ you?

KRIS: It is almost irrelevant. It is simply…..You do have the tendency to think that if it is more of you it must be higher, if it is less of you it is lower. We do wish you to get away from those concepts. You do not think because you go to the bathroom that suddenly you are less of you.

QUESTION: (many people speaking).. There are no barriers on any of us. There’s no higher or lower.

KRIS: Not in those terms. You are always your own divine gracious selves, even when you look in the mirror and you go BLAH you are still your loving selves.

QUESTION: I’ve got a question. In reading Elias and Seth and listening to you Kris, it’s remarkable how humorous all of you are in comparison to all of us. Do we take life too serious? Is there a way we can find more humor in life?

KRIS: You have just come to that realization??!!

QUESTION: You, You are ??? and we are all ??? representations of our higher self…

KRIS: We simply are able to voice to you what you dare not listen and do for yourselves. We are the echoes of those ancient voices that have found new strengths within you. Short of smacking you up one side the other, we decide to do it with humor. If we were somber, if we preached to you from the pulpits of absolutes, you would run away so fast that we could not get the next word in. That way we share in your joy of being, we try to convey to you that you are indeed joyous creatures, though sometimes you do not think so.

Overall, the voice we give to yourselves is a reminder that sometimes you think you are little more than the dead who walk. And the irony is that you often come to the supposed dead to have fun with life. So perhaps eventually, your species will awaken and realize that life is not a miserable, treacherous path where you are continuously ambushed, but that indeed all of the opportunities are before you but you have simply become blinded to them. That is what enlightenment is about.

It is not about becoming more serious. It is not about twisting your body in strange pretzels. It is not about picking the lint from your navels. It is about discovering the unlimited amounts of joy that pour forth from the cells of your beings to be shared with everyone.

QUESTION: Kris, how can we best attain this wakening? How can we awake from this strange sleep?

KRIS: Have fun with life. Have fun, period!

QUESTION: So then I’m wide awake.

KRIS: When you think sometimes that you are wide awake you are at your sleepiest, because you think perhaps life’s burdens are not worth it, because you have forgotten that inside of you lives a force and a power that is greater than all of the sources of energies you can find on your world and beyond, and that power has an avenue, has an escape hatch. Do you know what that is?

It is this: It is laughter and joy, love, compassion and the giving of oneself to others because the others give of themselves too. You have based your present civilization upon some extremely twisted concepts. Screw him before he screws me. Get him before he gets me. Rob him before he robs me. You have forgotten that all of these are merely the plays and the dramas you have created based on rather poor perceptions of existence.

If instead you were to build a civilization on nurturing, on loving support on compassion and joy, you people would not have to invite us into your lives. We would share them with you at so many levels. And your lives would be in abundance of pleasure. Because you fear pleasure, you invent all of these things that seem to justify the fearing of pleasure.

QUESTION: (something about the Catholic Church).

KRIS: Why was that religious institution and other similar created by you? To reflect back to your collective being the sense of fear that you hold about life. Once that is removed, once that is transformed then new institutions will come which will not seek to tie you in ball and chain to their beliefs but will give you wings so that you can soar into the sun.

QUESTION: Kris, you use the term WE and you give us US. (several questions – difficult to sort them out) Do you see us as you sit here?

KRIS: Principally…..Indeed, we do not need Joseph’s eyes, though at times we’ll open them because we want to see the magnificence of your physical presences.

QUESTION: Do you see our form? Do you see our energy? Do you see….? What do you see?

KRIS: Why could it not be forms of energy and energy forms at the same time.

We speak in the plural because we are more than one thing. Joseph belongs to the process. Philip belongs to the process. We are ourselves as well as you and your own source selves all pitch in. You are multitudinous consciousnesses, so it is only fitting that we speak in the plural, as you would greatly benefit if you spoke of yourselves in the plural. Not in the holier than thou religious plural but in the sense that you are many.

QUESTION: (hard to understand – several people talking) We are a gestalt. There’s only one of us here.

KRIS: You think that, but that is not reality. You think there is only one of you here, but that is not the case.

QUESTION: There’s the mother you, there’s the wife you, there’s the individual you, there’s the ???

KRIS: There is also far more. You are filled with….you actually give probable selves on a continual basis. You are all here. This room is merely a reference point for a small portion of your focus. In reality this room does not exist. These walls are immaterial. Your bodies are no more than the flow of units of consciousness attaching themselves to the idea of your forms, representing you in a small slice of time and space.

But in reality you, your atoms, your particles and your precious selves are everywhere, but where is everywhere? Everywhere is here. It cannot be anywhere else. So you play with the concept. Try and find where everywhere is. You may think it is in all the planets, it is in all the countries, it is in all the trees, it is in the wind or the snow, the mountain peaks, the valleys, it is in every drop of water, and you would still not be able to find the totality of everywhere, because everywhere is part of the spacious present, this eternal moment that is now. That is everywhere!

You flow in and out, above and below and sideways to yourselves and you are still everywhere because you are here.

Now how many of your fuses are blown? We suggest a small break so that you can try and find yourselves somewhere.

QUESTION: Can I ask. If I sit here as myself, Nicole, which is me in physical form but I play a lot of roles as Nicole. Do all of those roles that I play as Nicole take on a different…..are they seeing different things than I see as I sit here in this chair watching you?

KRIS: That is quite possible. Now. We desire a break for Joseph’s sake. However, in the meantime why not try to imagine all of those things you cannot yet imagine.

KRIS: Now often when you try to understand some of these concepts, naturally you will want to take them and dilute them into a manner that fits your previously accepted views of reality, what you think is and is not. However in doing so, you also ignore larger portions of your own self that may very well resonate with some of these other news items.

So it is a fine thing to try and grapple with some of these concepts and see where they actually fit in with your previously referenced knowledge of reality. And often when it does not yet fit into its slot, it gets put into the gutter.

Now most individuals expect that these larger than life experiences must conform to their views, otherwise they are not valid. To get a better understanding, would be that you come and meet the concept halfway, trusting that your whole self might know a bit more about you than you know about it. If that whole self did not know a lot about you, it would make some very funny mistakes, such as not knowing where toes are supposed to go, it might grow them out of your elbows because the body’s growth energy comes from the whole self source. Without that fire then literally, the key ingredients that make the body would remain in their original state, which would not make a body. Do you understand?

So trying to understand whether you have a self that is in one past time, another in a future is all fine and dandy. The clincher comes when you understand that ultimately future selves, past selves, past future selves, future past selves, selves that go into the future to come back into the past to recreate a future, and so on and so forth, are means by which you can explore and stretch the boundaries of your imagination, but ultimately again, where is everywhere, because that is where you are. You are in all versions of time, all variations of concepts and again all variations of all the concepts of time that may flow from THOSE concepts.

You are in all ‘spaces’, whether you understand even what a space is, though you may use the words. You think something is space because you do not see what is in it. Therefore to you it is empty but it may be filled with quantum universes that do not recognize you, have no idea what you are and therefore do not recognize you. So, why should you be the ones that think you know what reality is? Or even what YOU are? Other beings may not even recognize you as anything valid in some form or another. Or you might register in such a different form in their realities as to be insignificant, as the things you consider in this reality to be insignificant.

Take the atoms of oxygen. You don’t pay attention to them. You breath them in, you exhale and you have life. In other realities they may appear as something entirely different. You have no idea that the whole of everything is sentient, but you think, ‘stupid rock, what is it doing here?’ and you kick it away. And in doing so you might set off a chain of events that sends comets flying through the skies of some unknown worlds. You might scratch the back of your head and in some other realities a new form of life is created. You might think that your fingers are only good for a few things, and we won’t tell you what that is. Use your imagination. And you might stretch out your hands and your fingers to a loved one and intertwine your fingers with theirs, and out of that contact perhaps in some other dimension whole new universes are generated because somewhere your two hearts and bodies met.

You think that you imagine some pretty pictures in your head and they are meaningless. You do not see the correlation between the molecular structures in your world that give form to energy and that there are molecules, particles that also compose the imagery in your head. And these are just as valid as the ones here because they appear here in one way or another eventually.

QUESTION: Going back to what you were discussing at first concerning shifting our frequencies.

KRIS: We are glad that you are still on the frequency. Please go on.

QUESTION: So we shift our frequency by shifting our thoughts? The speed of our thoughts?

KRIS: You can get the very feel for the speed of the flow of your thoughts, and you will recognize it. It is not rocket science. Well okay, small rocket science. But it is not beyond your means to recognize that your thoughts seem to flow at a particular speed, rapidity.

QUESTION: But then can we change that?

KRIS: You can tweak it, play with the concept.

KRIS: Well, of course, if you flip the dial to the very other end of the spectrum it would be meaningless to you. It would be so far out of your realm of perceptions you would think nothing is happening.

QUESTION: Would that be a breach of contract?

KRIS: Not necessarily.

QUESTION: Is that like alpha, beta, gamma….

KRIS: These are merely some of them, and you can go into these brainwaves and from there become the observer and play with the frequencies or the speed. Use them in a playful manner. See what you pick up of reality once you start playing with the fine-tuning.

QUESTION: Can we tell which kind of brainwave we are in? Normally we are in beta.

KRIS: Ultimately these are generalized references. You have many expansions of beta, many expansions of theta, many expansions of delta, and these are not merely sideways. Not merely front and back, but also inwards where reality spins in and out of itself on a continual basis. We do not wish to get into higher quantum physics here. But you get some of the perceptions. Do you understand?

In other words have fun with your consciousness. It is your laboratory and you have been using it to create the very things before you, including this room and what we have talked about. Do you understand?

QUESTION: Isn’t that our ultimate purpose? To create our most joyous, pleasure experience? Why do we choose each other? Why do we choose anything?

KRIS: Did you not have fun at dinner? Was that not a marvelous creation? Indeed.

Now, what is the time? We suggest then that you continue having fun creations on your own and we will see you soon. So enjoy your frequencies and enjoy your lives.

(Some further discussion between Mark and audience members concerning NLP followed Kris’ exit.)

KRIS: You have such good bait. How can I possibly leave?

Now, do you understand that you are not here to be tested? You CAN leave behind some Judeo Christian values. The inner or higher or bigger or fatter or smarter or more enlightened self is not here to judge how well or how poorly you do. It supports you in all your ventures and you travel upon these ventures, these discoveries, with other beings. Much like the Japanese do when they travel. And upon your journeys you have one thing you are meant to do – enjoy yourself. Enjoy your creations. There is nothing more pleasing to the entire whole of everything everywhere, wherever that is, than for you to be joy, to create joy and to have joy in your hearts. So sometimes we do not understand your species.

Now if you find joy you can give her our regards.

QUESTION: So our whole experience of being in creature-hood in this form is to experience joy.

KRIS: Have fun, loving abandon, have truckloads and gallons and mountains of fun. Which one of you has ever been happy by NOT having fun? ‘I will be so happy today I will not have fun”!

QUESTION: What about when we get stuck in our regular lives?

MARK: That’s what we are trying to remind you right now is that DON’T get stuck into that. At any given time you have the ability to create joy and happiness. You are creating that debt and that unhappiness but it doesn’t have to happen. I personally, Mark, not Philip or whatever, know exactly what you are talking about. It’s like we invented problems. It doesn’t have to be that way (much talking, difficult to pick out anything except something about the Matrix).

One other thing I want to add to that is, what philosophy, psychology or religion in all history has ever had this joyous element as a base, this fun base of joyous exuberance? If that’s the base, well gee, everything goes around the base. I’ve never run across a system like that. It’s so original. It’s so profound that the base is this joyous abundance.

KRIS: These are all the icings on the cake. True joy does not come from having a better car. It does not come from having a better washing machine. It does not come from having a better hairstyle, or better pants. It comes from within your heart, and all of the other things naturally flow from the core of your being to accommodate your joy, to reflect it with loving abandon.

The whole of the Universe bends your way because you attract that power through the joy in your heart. That kind of joy is not measured in increments nor weight by your scientific instruments.

QUESTION: And how do you know if the joy is in your heart that is supposed to lead you….

KRIS: That is what you have been afraid to discover this weekend. We have been waiting for you to say those words for two days. Now, if you want a fast track to that, fall in love. Fall in love with the kind of love that stretches all boundaries of time, that is reflected in the love for your fellow human beings, your partner, your parents, your friends, but that kind of love is the kind that you will give to yourself. It is neither hedonistic nor narcissistic, but it is the true source of all creation.

All That Is loves, and as a result, you are. You are the deepest loving expression of All That Is [that you can be]. And once your species realizes that, then your entire realities will be transformed, and the only thing in the entire universe that can give you that gift of love is yourself. It will never ever happen by giving it to anyone or anyone giving it to you. It must come from the depths of your being and you are almost there. The closest approximation is the love of a mother towards a child. It is love that says ‘whatever occurs, I am always with you because I love you’. All That Is has that capacity to such levels that it would blow your fuses.

That kind of love can only be expressed from within the heart. And with that we give you our deepest love. And may you sleep and dream loving things.

A fond and loving goodnight!

Thursday Evening Chat – Colorado Seth Conference

September 25, 2003

Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois
Transcribed by Marcy Singer
Recorded in Winter Park, Colorado September 25, 2003
© Copyright 2004 Avion Rising Inc.

8:45 pm

KRIS: Not that we want the grand entrance, but it is nice once in awhile to be anticipated. We do thank you enormously for your kindness in providing these opportunities. They enable Joseph and Philip to understand they are not stuck on a small island up north, but that there have available brothers and sister that are as capable as anyone to show support, as you so kindly demonstrate today. So for that we are deeply indebted.

Now earlier you were speaking of whom really walks your streets, who really is sitting in your restaurant, who populates your world, what are your perception? And undoubtedly you believe a great deal in what your eyes tell you is out there outside of your sense of self, helping to create this assumption that the self has something that exists outside of and separate from it.

And in many aspects that is the function of your physical senses, and especially your eyes. Their function is to interpret light and quantum particles into form. You heard earlier this evening how spirit creates form and enjoys doing so. And since you are spirit that have generated a form out of many others, but this one that you are somewhat familiar with, that seems to express portions of who you are. Do you also know where your other forms are?

The atoms and molecules that compose your form, where ELSE do they appear? The atoms and molecules that compose your form are not static; forever in the same in the place and forever holding their position, like well trained soldiers. They indeed have the ability to appear in many times-places at once. That is one of the unique qualities of consciousness. It is not limited to YOUR perception of how IT should behave.

If consciousness ever attempted to truly conform to your ideas of time and space, then you would be in deep doo-doo . The very fabric of time and space indeed would be rendered asunder, because it is meant to flow in, out and through itself and to express that consciousness in as many forms as possible, and you yourselves do the same. You think you are always here in this room at this moment, and the next moment you think you are still fully in this room, and then another moment you think you are still fully in this room. That is the beauty of the illusion, that you think this is so.

Now, we wish to walk – (here Kris paces up and down for a while), would you be so kind as to perhaps sit on this side?

You think you are carefully and beautifully couched exactly where you are, and you do not pay attention to the atoms and molecules that flow through this room. The neutrinos for instance flow through here in a manner that you would never be able to assume because as they flow through here they also flow through other “heres”. The quantum particles cannot be only in one place for their capacity would overwhelm even your perceptions. They have to be in all places at all times. So this is why there are times when you meet people, and they say: ‘I saw someone who looks exactly like you when I was on vacation in Australia.’ And someone in Australia tells their friend, ‘I saw someone who looks exactly like you when I was in Florida. It is not that you have doubles, but that YOU have appeared somewhere else in a moment of absent-mindedness, when you were not so preoccupied with maintaining your entire form in one time-space place. Do you understand?

So you play with the concepts of time and space without realizing it. And when you sleep you think that you rest so beautifully upon your pillow and you do not realize that as soon as your ego even makes one step towards mellowness, you take off.

You take the opportunity to not have to toil and put so much of your energy into pretending to be always there. You create entire consciousness. You create, you are the architects of your adventures, and you think your adventure at times is so boring, you have to go to work, when you are at work you daydream and where else do you end up. You doodle and you do not pay attention to the little designs that you make and your mind wanders.

How many of you as children were told by parents or educators, teachers or friends, ‘we have been calling you for ten minutes. You never heard a word. Where have you been?’ And you do not remember because you block it out, that perhaps you were dreaming of some far off adventure with a patch on your eye looking for treasure. Or perhaps you were walking the halls of some grand palace, pretending to be a king or a prince, and perhaps in such an adventure someone thought they saw a ghost, an expression of your face appearing in someone else’s field of vision. You might very well have enjoyed the adventure of scaring the bejesus out of someone when you realize that they could see you, and then they could not.

So you played with consciousness, you played with form and you played with matter, and you forget about it so conveniently, so you do not have to own up to the fact that you are more than what you feel about yourselves. You are so clever, because then you pretend that you dreamt it!

So the idea here is that there is so much more to you than you ever dreamt possible, and even then when you step into the field of imagining what you did not think was previously possible already that much more has happened with your beings. Often you will hear people say in groups, ‘so exactly what did this? Is it true that the spirit of someone who died a tragic death and now has to be shown the door to the light?’

That works very well for Hollywood and Hollywood-ish types. What very likely happens is that individuals who are preoccupied with reincarnational existences, or at least what you would call reincarnational existences, also do the same as you. They absent mindedly forget that a portion of their selves had now traveled down the corridors of time and had appeared to someone, and because it is not your full form, or their full form or your full form then they are semi translucent, you do not see them as solidly as you would see another, and again you have scared the bejesus out of someone else.

When you become aware that you have just slipped into another state, try as you do in dream states, try a bit of lucidity, examine the surroundings try to get sense of where you suddenly are focusing. You will find that interestingly enough you can add or boost the juice, so to speak, so that more of your perceptions enter the projection, whether you are on the beach in Florida or California or Baja or Ecuador or perhaps you are walking the ancient streets of Rome or Persia, who sees you, when you are doing so? Whom do you see? Are they also as solid as you think they are? Might they not also be some fragments? Now that would certainly reduce the department of statistics into a tizzy.

Life and consciousness is not what you think it is. It appears so because you have insisted upon it being so; because you insist upon yourselves being in a particular time-space in a particular way in particular perceptions, then you block off the rest of reality. And for instance you do not feel that this room might also be filled with quantum particles, themselves incredibly magnificent universes. You think because you have this form that your universe is big and that theirs might be small, while quite the opposite might be the truth.

“Alice Through the Looking Glass” is indeed a wonderful story because it deals with perceptions and changes of consciousness and the reactions of a ‘ego individual’ in those circumstances. Eventually she wakes up from her sleep and all the world is alright. There are times when you yourself travel down the same looking glass and you do not pay attention, unless of course you were to see a white rabbit exclaiming that he is late, terribly late.

But you can give yourselves markers. Suggest to your own unconscious to give you specific signal or sign and you have been working on your sign , perhaps your unconscious will be so kind as to provide a sign that will alert you in some way when you have slipped out of your regular concentration or mode into another so that you might be able to pay particular attention to your adventure at that moment. Does that make sense to you?

You can also do the same when you sleep so that a sign or marker induces you to be somewhat more lucid. Use the same principle. You do not have to be asleep to do that, although sometimes you are awake when you are asleep.

There are many other layers of dimensions even within this one you think is so well known to you that you do not know anything about. You are all fascinated with crop circles, for instance. There are many theories that abound that they are extraterrestrial in nature or perhaps some of the neighborhood bad boys are playing a trick upon you after being at the pub for a few hours.

But we suggest something quite different. Now, if you were in another dimension, but aware that there are others still around you, you decide in your dimension to doodle or perhaps to draw or to write and you know that the pressure applying the pen or pencil upon the paper leaves an imprint into the fibers of the paper that in another dimension could be interpreted something entirely different than what you had in mind, would you not go ahead and take advantage of the opportunity to have fun. Do you understand what we are saying?

So we are suggesting that since your own space is simultaneously filled with many other dimensions, there are in some of those other dimensions, as in all of them, they are indigenous, just as you are in this dimension expressing your physical form this way. There are others still. And in their dimension, when they write or leave an impression it in turn is interpreted by the root assumptions of your dimension as something entirely different. Does that make sense to you?

QUESTION: Are you saying in other dimensions someone is doing designs that are being manifested in this world as crop circles?

KRIS: Indeed, specifically so, but what they are drawing are not what you see as crop circles because of the filtering and from their perspective your dimension actually is very microscopic and so they ado not necessarily know that you exist. And this is only in relative terms, because there are no giants somewhere else but we are simply wanting to reference it in that way.

QUESTION: So would this be art at both ends.

KRIS: Undoubtedly. In fact if you were actually, for one moment and you were to imagine that there are life forms of incredible proportions somehow or other intrigued by the activity in this petri dish, they were looking down upon you to the point that you might feel there’s somewhat fuzzy presences because they are so indistinct to you. I believe you have a bit of an impression of what we are talking about. Does that make sense to you?

Now they are not necessarily more gigantic than you are. They are consciousness, but they are interpreted in that fashion from your perspective.

QUESTION: Which of the crop circles are real?

KRIS: You may have the few neighborhood bad boys that try to simulate, even with some semi intricate designs. What you have to look for is ….give us one moment…..you will call it radiation. This is truly an alteration of the micro-bio chemistry that exists at very small particles within the stalks that have been bent but unbroken. Somehow or other there is a different radiation signature from the surrounding areas. Does that makes sense to you?

Other signs may also be such as animals wild or domesticated in the vicinity suddenly seem absent, even frogs or crickets in that area may not be present until the signature dissipates. And the plants will repress any continued growth.

Imagine for a moment that there is a spring very similar to the one outside and there are small fish and out of your sense of adventure you decide to stick your finger into that stream. Do you honestly think that the small fish see that finger? First, the light is already bent by the water, and second your form and what they see are two different things.

So we are suggesting as another example something similar. When the inhabitants of this other dimension do some of their activities, it appears in your dimension in such a manner.

Now that will presuppose that there are things that you do in your reality that may affect theirs or others, would it not?

Any other questions?

QUESTION: You said something on a recent cd that ‘not everybody on your planet has come from this planet.’ Can you elaborate on that?

KRIS: Indeed. A long time ago, sounds so very fairy tale like – once upon a time -, that particular Vedic civilization on this planet realized that its way of life was in danger of being eliminated, and as a consequence, being far more technologically advanced than your own civilization and even perhaps in a slightly different manner, they took to the stars.

Some colonized Mars, some went further, as far as Sirius. Those that colonized Mars repeated the mistakes they made here and thoroughly ruined that environment. Realizing that perhaps they had yet a chance to make things all right, some came back to this world. And if this scandalizes you we do apologize, but we are talking of events that occurred over 400 million years ago.

Some of these came back to this place, some went elsewhere again, following their ancient brothers and sister and even to other places. And seeing that those that had been left behind and suffered disasters and survived needed assistance, (they) taught, educated the individuals and cultures they found here, taught them to come back from the brink of oblivion and assisted them and created myths within their psyches to bring about the possibility that were ever any of their endeavors to put this world in jeopardy in a manner similar to their world, the self would find ways deeply buried in your collective unconscious, find ways to try to redress the situation before it is too late. That is what we meant. Does that makes sense to you? Yes.

Now some of your very distant cousins who have gone even further into the galaxy at times have come here, especially in times of need, again to teach. You have known some of them as the Anunaki, a whole variety of ancient teachers spoken of in ancient mythologies and legends, and they are known in almost every ancient culture on you planet. Some have been forgotten, some have been reinvented, some have been rediscovered, but suffice it to know that your species has been on this planet for a very long time indeed, and you have faced insurmountable challenges, you have come back from them, you have come back to them, and you have recreated yourselves and your history is vast, long and colorful. You are NOT the result of some cosmic slime, nor are you as related to monkeys as your ‘legends’ tell. You are your own species. The monkeys are their own.

And if you could understand the grandiose manner with which your species is able to come back from the brink of oblivion over and over again and your incredible achievements, some that have disappeared from the face of your planet and some that will come, your futures would be very different indeed because you would have the assurances and the deep knowing that you have strengths within you that you did not suspect.

You think your species invented writing approximately 5,000 years ago and you would be wrong. Writing as you know it is only one of the things which you have invented, and there are other kinds of writing that you invented that you do not understand now. You think some foolish ape-man discovered fire when lightening struck an old tree, and yet your anthropologists will tell you that they “think” that’s what happened, but they will teach it to you as absolute truth. Is that not correct? And they will continue to assure you that yes indeed you COME from monkeys. Ask them for undeniable evidence, not circumstantial evidence but undeniable evidence that will stand up in your courts of law. If you treated that subject matter with the same veracity as you treat criminal cases, you would indeed find that you have been perpetrated a crime. Alas. Because for the last 155 years not one iota of the Darwinian theory has been able to be proven. They find a toenail and suggest it is part of the missing link. You could find a toenail in your bathtub that would also qualify. Does this help you?

QUESTION: Is there any probability that the Mars probes will find any kind of indications of these ancient civilizations?

KRIS: It would be difficult because the type of warfare, but they have already found even in your pretty face of Mars that there is the type of highly polished surface that is very indicative of the type of glass-like or vitrification that exists after the release of a nuclear weapon. Do you understand? It has already been found, but of course they must throw out doubt and reservation even though it stares them in the face, so to speak.

It will be difficult for your staunch, dogmatic sciences to enter any of these things in the log book. However, there will come a point when evidence is undeniable, that the history that you have in portioned is not the one that is, but that they are in a quandary, for if they admit some kind of fault they automatically assume that the entire system will crumble and they will be disgraced. So to a substantive degree they must keep face. Does that make sense to you?

It is not necessarily that they are perpetrating evils into the world by doing so, but they too are toying with belief systems. And that is what the nature of your consciousness IS, before the dawn of thought. You are creating civilization after civilization. One comes and one goes. Another goes and another comes. You are constantly trying new angles and perspectives. You are pulling in probabilities so that you can find more and more creative ways to discover, to enlighten yourselves with yourself and my selves. You are constantly discovering that you have already discovered that you can discover yourselves. Over and over again.

QUESTION: Was that annihilation on Mars, is that what caused it to become a barren planet?

KRIS: Indeed. The ancient Vedic scriptures, the Mahabharata talks about the Brahmastra weapon, a weapon unleashed by sound. Not merely vocal sound which is part of the equation, there is also mental sound, and their description of the after effects of launching that weapon amazed 20th century scientists because 5,000 years ago they described the mushroom cloud of an atomic explosion. Because individuals have done it before, in Mahenjo-daro [and Harrapa in ancient Pakistan] is a great case as are other places around the world which continue to show vitrification as a result of atomic warfare.

In the ancient scriptures from India they talk about this war between worlds and Mars is one place, and this happened much before the Vedic writings. These were stories handed down by word of mouth as best as they could remember it, trying to warn future generations about such follies. Do you follow?

QUESTION: Was there a different orbital arrangement at the time of these events?

KRIS: Indeed so. Your planet first of all was not the third. You have two others. The present moon was in a different position to your planet that was in a different position. There was another celestial body or planet between the Earth and Venus; you were further back, closer to Mars.

So many things happened in your history of consciousness that the chronicles cannot be written down because you would not believe that so many things have occurred and so many civilizations have come and gone, that the volumes required to write about them could not be created. There is not enough room on your planet to create the paper necessary. Your history is so ancient that you cannot fathom it, you cannot even imagine that your future is as extensive. It’s fine for your scientists to say that in 21 billion years the sun will super nova and you will be wiped out, but who can be certain that this is exactly what will happen.

So in order to find your place in the universal scheme of things there truly is a simple solution. Be the best expression of yourselves that you can possibly be. And this is in one way why you more or less create us, to remind you of the ancient echoes of the bones that have gone before you, that have fought battles, that have loved wives, that have generated children, that have created empires, that have sung songs, that have drunk wine in the ancient halls of time, in the chamber that houses history is not limited by man’s imagination.

You limit yourselves because you misuse your imagination. Give it then some free flow and you will see your beliefs transform themselves by leaps and bounds. The only boundaries that exist are the ones that you have imposed upon yourselves. Gradually those boundaries are being repealed one by one, even if it means the creation of some consternation upon your humble selves. Still the bones of your ancestors will echo their glory to yours, because your atoms and molecules.., where do you think they come from? The stars, star dust, space dust, the castings of the worms as we have said earlier, including the bones of your ancestors regardless of how ancient it is.

So what is the time? (9:30 pm.)

Indeed then we believe we will take back our chair. Do you have some other questions?

QUESTION: When you come through Serge, what is in this process for you? Are there benefits for you? What is your reason for doing this?

KRIS: On the one hand we are hoping that this creation which is appearing will reach out in sparks of passion to those who listen of it. Secondly it assists Joseph to explore the depths of his own self. It assists him in understanding that he is far more than he ever imagined himself to be, and it also helps us shine because you find some answers. It helps us appreciate that much more the grace and wonder that is in each and every one of your thoughts. It helps us see that in every one of your molecules are entire galaxies and universes, desire and passion that you had forgotten were there. You think the ancient mariners sing their songs, the ancient conquerors sing their songs; you have forgotten that you also SING THE SONGS OF THE ATOMS AND MOLECULES IN YOUR BEINGS because you are made up of multi-dimensional energy. Does that hint answer your question?

So for the moment we will take leave of your pretty selves, of your song and your glory, and may you find that your travels through the stars and the times of your life here are filled with as much glory and passion as the ancient mariners that traveled not only your ancient oceans but also your ancient times and spaces and have a merry evening and sweet dreams.

(Break at 9:36 PM)

KRIS: Who could possibly leave your wonderful presences. Now, as contradictory as it may seem, even though we ourselves have spoken of distant civilizations and even more distant time still, and you have beautifully expressed the attempts of your scientists to understand the concepts of time and space, of distant celestial bodies both in the outer universe as well as the ones that orbit the electrons in your own molecules, and still you are dumbfounded by the simplicity of it all to the point where sometimes you have difficulty in accepting that the planets that orbit in your solar system are there because you have been able to imagine them.

So, what is the true origin of these diverse, apparently opposite orbiting celestial forms? But the matter that you conjure in your collective minds, so where in space is it? Outside? Out there? Or is it a representation of what you cannot yet give form to within the great unlimited depth of your own psyches. Everything within you is filled to capacity.

You do not see the universes that flow through even cells of your blood, the cells in your head, you move to brush back your hair and you do not see how many universes have collided together and become new creations. You blink your eyes and you do not know how many solar systems you have just given birth. You walk from one room to another and you do not know how many civilizations and how many dimensions have suddenly felt an unknown presence, the presence they may identify as a god, a god that walks amongst and through them. And you wonder at seeing the smallest cells in your body and you think you are amazing. You think you are fascinating because you created television, an instrument that allows you to see something created and broadcast from another location, and you do not understand that the fields that you have created in your collective imagination are broadcast and splashed across the cosmos for other entities to look at the things you have produced. Are you not marvelous producers? Warner Brothers eat your heart out.

And yet you think that you awaken in the morning and you look at your form and you go Bleh!, forgetting that what you think of your atoms and molecules are the entire solar systems, galaxies and universes to other beings. Just as other beings, who do exactly the same thing, having no recollection or awareness of your presence and vice versa.

So my dear friends, when you hear the song of the universe, sing it loudly through your lungs and your vocal cords, through your flesh because countless galaxies sing through you.

Now, how do YOU feel?

Size is relative. So we hope that this propels you to more questions and appreciation. Now we will take our leave of your galactic imminence.

(Break)

GROUP DISCUSSION (a summary of the break chats)

There was quite a bit of discussion concerning getting together more often and having Kris speak to smaller groups such as was there at that time.

Discussion about Mars: Question about the ‘face on Mars’. “Lights and shadows.” Kris was not really asked about this.

Further discussion about time travel in the year 3000. (Difficult to hear.)

Discussion about some kind of government research concerning remote viewing. (Difficult to make this out.) Concerning some guy named Joe. TMI?

Remote viewed structures on Mars that appeared to be constructed by civilization and would give a date. He has ‘been there’ when the people were dying and they thought he was an apparition.

Discussion about ancient civilizations, which had advanced technologies. Ancient Egyptians had some kind of helmets that they did not fully understand how to use and were taught to them by still more ancient beings. If not used properly their brain would be fried. If utilized properly they were used for remote viewing, according to Kris.

Zechariah Sitchin?

Used self-hypnosis…..using the TMI equipment when he got the Mars information. Says he went back to meet Jesus. Very different entity than you would expect. When he goes and sees the entity they are able to adjust the frequency of the equipment so he can communicate with the entity on their same frequency.

Discussion about the constant creation of reality so that history and future are relative and so civilizations that we think of as ancient actually exist right now.

How old is Kris? Time is manmade, so it’s not possible to put an age to Kris.

One of his lives was during the time of the Ottoman invasion of Europe. Another one was around the middle to later 1700’s as pirates. Will never reveal where the treasure is buried….(LOLOL)

Discussion concerning ego awareness – talking to Kris is communicating with deeper layers of our Selves. We create Kris? How? Who’s driving the bus?

The answers are at other layers of consciousness. The challenge is to communicate with not only the ego but also the deeper layers which contain the beliefs which influence how we create our reality.

Kris is just trying to tell us that we already know how to be happy and that is to simply be the best person we can be.

The conscious mind is meant to assess reality, and when conscious mind does not like its reality, how do we get from where we are to where we want to be.

Consciousness is trying to tell us that we HAVE the power to create the joy and we do not have to accept the limitations. You have always been, you are Consciousness and you have manifested this being, and the ego may feel bad or negative, but it’s not Consciousness. Consciousness always accepts that you are doing the right thing and loves you unconditionally.

End of break –

KRIS: This new shift is a potential dialogue, when you begin to recognize consciously that there is something about yourselves that understands that first of all you are in a state of dissatisfaction with your reality, which means that you are in disagreement with your present worldview.

When you recognize that, it is an indication that other aspects of your being, whether they be manifest in another time space dimension of reality, it is their reality, but it indicates that there is a portion of you that also realizes that there are other aspects of your being that are in position, and have the knowledge and the ability and the resources to help you change that view; to help you recognize that the inner field of events is the source of the outer field of events, and then when you begin to fiddle with enlightenment, you turn that inner field of events into a situation which is more to your liking, which is then reflected into the outer field of events, the great tapestry and canvass of life, which is what you paint your reality upon. You paint expressions of your soul in 3 dimensional sculptures.

Again, you also give voice and expression and song to all the unexpressed, unknown realities and dimensions within your being into the deepest parts that you can possibly imagine at this time, so that the echoes of your song strikes a cord at the conscious ego level, that part of you has forgotten to listen with its inner ears. Then when you hear the song, your soul is aflame with new passion and you change your world because you have changed yourself. And what has changed is merely the way you look at whom and what you are in a small slice of time space, and you dance to this marvelous salsa of the passion of life.

You are an expression of the passion of the universe as all of these here are, as all of you here are, and yet you sit in this room and you think your selves hear what we have to say. And here you are at the butt of the cosmic joke, because at some other level you have already worked out mechanics and the mathematics and the equations of your masterful constructions. We are merely here to remind you of the deep echoes within the canyons of your soul, that these eternal songs are your artwork.

There are millions of your selves that have just heard this song and you think you are the only one sitting here. And that is fine, because it is where you are at this time, neurologically, biologically and still cannot completely straddle even your present self-expression and you are trying to understand the millions of cells all at once. And you do not know what one cell in one small spot in your finger is communicating to another cell galaxies away, in this finger.

And then again you wake up in the morning, you look in the mirror and you say “Woe is me!” You look at your bodies you look at your breasts you look at your butts you look at your hair and you wonder ‘how can my dog love me, look at me?’ And you forget that you have created gods and goddesses and in the best of your attention may these divine beings try to love you and you insist that you are not lovable.

How dare you put yourselves down this much and again this is a sweet dilemma. You hear the distant echoes of other parts of your selves that say indeed you are loved, you are loved so much that the whole universe listens to the song you sing and creates the sunshine with you so that you can see there is a deep abiding beauty looking at such a marvelous creation through your eyes.

So it is up to you to appreciate the sunrise that you consume and to marvel at the great creative talents that you hide within your bones and your cells

Does that confuse you at all?

And safely seated on your couch, in the seat of your complacency you forget that you are eternal immortal beings, that you give birth to the gods, and you throw yourselves at their mercy. So throw yourselves at the depth and the mercy of your great creative power and RIDE the wave of creation and be the best surfers you can be!

That should be enough. Time for you to go to sleep and to enjoy the soon-to-come sunrise and to enjoy yourselves as much as you can.

The Nine Sisters – Part 1

September 15, 2003

Channelled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Andrea Klubal
Recorded In Toronto, Canada on September 15, 2003
7:50 PM Session Starts

First of all, you would have to define the term ‘embodied’. You would have to make a case and determine what and whom is embodied and what or whom is not. You think of us here as disembodied and you think of yourselves as embodied. And you may even consider that any other ideas revolving and evolving out of the disembodied has perhaps very little relevance to the embodied realities.

But then again, exactly what are you? You know by now that your physical form is not what it appears. You perceive it as solid, as easily as you perceive various constructions as solid – the table, or the walls, the floors and the ceilings and all of the furnishings including the other bodies as quite solid indeed. And that is the information that your limited senses give you. Your eyes do not see beyond these walls. You may see beyond the walls, but when you take for granted that the energy patterns that your eyes feed you as the only perceivable patterns, then you lie to yourselves.

The constructions you call your bodies are composed of cellular structures that are themselves composed of molecules, that are themselves composed of smaller units still, and so on and so forth – all in a state of flux, moving at a state so rapid that the eye cannot detect it, because the eye is attuned to one particular frequency, in a manner of speaking. And you therefore accept that what you see through your eyes is the only thing worth seeing.

Now when you dream you are much smarter because in the dreams you often can see into other rooms or upstairs or downstairs, or sometimes even in locations near or far. And you think of it as quite natural because, indeed, it is.

Your physical senses are not as active – their facsimile appears in the dreams only. When you are awake, you fall under the influences of the senses and you take it for granted that what they perceive is the only thing there is to be perceived, even though they lie. Now understand us, it would do you no good to pull your eyes out in order to see better. Instead, it would do you good to understand that the eyes see one set of patterns, and that you may perceive many more.

You are thus surrounded by waves of patterns your physical senses do not detect. And these waves of patterns include what you call probabilities or possible developments that constantly emanate from you. And the multi-faceted decisions you take from moment to moment, involving calculations far beyond your abilities to track – far beyond your most powerful super computers to track. And you are often completely unawares of these minute calculations, because you believe your senses so thoroughly.

You have faith in your senses to give you accurate information and that they do beautifully, but within their acceptable parameters. The senses themselves cannot give you information about deeper psychological issues that stem from your thinking processes, your expectations, your desires and a host of psychological events that occur within you; because they do not have the necessary programming but you do. Your abilities are only restrained and limited by your capacities to sometimes fool yourselves into thinking that only physical information is valid.

Once you unlearn these things, you will discover that indeed you are builders. Your constructions flow forth from you as easily as water goes over the falls, rushes over the pebbles in the brooks; as easily and effortlessly as the leaves spring from the buds in the springtime; as easily and beautifully as the aesthetic qualities of the rose makes its impression upon you – in its beauty, in its velvety softness, and its sweet smell. The rose does not have to struggle and endure self-doubt, self-recrimination, self-hatred, self-directed shame. It does not have to compare itself to other flowers: “Am I as pretty as the pansy? The chrysanthemum? The apple blossom? Can I compete?” Indeed not. The rose shines in its ability to be the best rose it can be. So you must understand that the very foundation of what you think yourselves to be has to be examined. You need to look within your assumptions about yourselves as a person, and as a member of your species, and as a member of the natural world.

You are another amongst many creatures. And you give your impression to the world, you express yourselves – once you are able to understand that you are much more than you believe about yourselves, then the world is forever deeply enriched, as it should be. For instance, someone may think nothing of asking us to prove our existence and find that to be an entirely justifiable demand. How would they react, then, if we asked the same? Prove yourselves to be who you say you are – if you are to pull out your wallet, and your driver’s license, these are merely cards and paper. And over identification with the physical form also leads to problems. Though you should, by all means, revel in your creaturehood, you need to also understand to a certain point that you have your existence primarily outside the flow of physical time events; you participate in the flow of physical time events. But you are definitely so much more. It is only when you define yourselves according to your physical self and the senses that you eventually realize there are indeed shortcomings in such a philosophy.

Now, you are accustomed to using certain portions of your mind in very specific ways. And as with patterns, you establish methods of operation that determine how you behave or react under various conditions.

And unfortunately, you also, by the same token, eliminate any other methods of behaving and reacting to situations. And again, your abilities are often limited to the parameters you have set up as defining whom and what you are according to a large part your physical self and to a smaller degree your psychological self, without realising that you would benefit far more by inverting the situations and understanding that there are other aspects to the human personality that are rarely explored, more specifically in your civilization as it stands today. You are accustomed to thinking of yourselves as the by-product of Darwinian evolution. And, in terms of spirituality and ‘religianity, you also define yourselves often according to the religious views and parameters as they are found on your plane of existence. And the tools and resources you use to deal with the constructions – your constructions in physical reality – are usually limited to a very small number of resources and key ingredients.

And because you are so well conditioned to not explore inner or hidden dimensions of the human personality, with roots that go far deeper into the self, you often are at a loss to understand more completely not only whom and what you are, but what you can do and what are the tools you can use within the plane of physical existence. Now we will state after our short break upon what we have referred to in the past as the 9 Sisters. And you should find this useful and applicable material, because it usually lays dormant in the human persona, and so very little used at all, if it is even recognized. So here take a small break and recover from this long soliloquy.

Break Starts 8:10 PM

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Session Resumes 8:25 PM

Now, the human personality, as you understand it, is but one expression of something far grander and deeper that may be unable to completely appear into your plane of existence. This source of your personality has attributes and potentials that can truly enhance whom and what you are, and enrich your abilities to navigate the oceans of life, as you understand.

You often find yourselves as a small ship on a large ocean, sometimes even in the very middle of a storm on the high seas, fearing that your small craft will be smashed by the waves, for you feel unprotected, unresourced. You rely very strongly on the rational, intellectual portions of your personality and on very specific patterns of those qualities. And there are other occasions where, in such stormy seas, you tend to rely upon the emotional and intuitive aspects of life to bring about your ship, and find safe harbour in a quiet bay, protecting yourselves from the waves. And yet in between and on either side of those qualities, the intellectual, rational, the emotional, intuitive – in between and on either side, in a manner of speaking, there are other qualities that may embody traces of these four and so much more. They are not used and focused upon, because you do not think there is anything beyond them.

Earlier on, we tried to make a point and emphasize that relying solely upon your physical senses you believe there is nothing beyond the solidity of the objects that appear as constructions in your environment. But that in the dream states, you may be able to perceive beyond the limitations of your senses. Do you remember?

Indeed then, it is also possible, at the conscious level, to tap into other resources and provide a completely different understanding of the human personality, the use of intelligence, the use of emotions and every other attribute pertinent to your expressions of self in the time/space flow of events. Hopefully, we can identify all of them for you this evening, if not it may have to continue next week.

But first you need to understand that in order to access some of these extra qualities, you need a new view of the human mind and the human personality, for presently, your understanding of the human mind and human personality is based upon your relationship with the ego. And that relationship and interpretation is unfortunately far too narrow to give you a better understanding of yourselves – not that there is anything wrong with the ego. Were it not for the ego you would not have the sense of self that you have now. And the ego is not an impediment to a larger understanding of existence. But instead, it can be a helpmate, a companion that supports and encourages, instead of feeling threatened and therefore becomes reactive and censors anything that it feels threatened by. There is no need to rush and attempt to assassinate the ego, because it is not your enemy. Such teachings are legion in many eastern types of philosophies and their divinities. And therein they are flawed. And neither is its opposite acceptable, in terms of shunning aside the ego, and relying entirely upon one’s emotional, emotive, intuitive nature because that brings about an imbalance in the relationships that you have with your many selves.

Thus, a new map of the mind is necessary. But not a new map still based upon the old formulations. You need a new understanding of the map of the mind – of the mind, and of the self. You are accustomed to understanding your mind in a very rigid manner. Here you have a department, and here you have another, and here you have another still. And you have labelled and catalogued them under numerous terms – this is your intuitive self; this is your intellectual self; and so on and so forth – and yet overall is very limiting, restrictive, narrow views. And for as much as you seek to understand the world around you, more and more, it may feel at times that you are pushing against cement walls. They will not budge because the mind that you are trying to use to understand the world has not been made large enough. It is too rigid. Its corridors have been poured out of cement – psychological, but nonetheless cement. The rigidity of your beliefs hinders and limits your capacity to spread your wings, so to speak. You tend to see the world still in black and white, in terms of good and evil and so on and so forth. And that is still the old standards of perception.

What we are proposing then is a much larger blueprint of the mind; one where the corridors of understanding, the corridors of seeking and knowledge, are not in a fixed state, but rather have the ability to flow and mingle, because that kind of a blueprint is much truer to your nature than anything you have up to date in your space/time.

In spite of all of the apparent advances in your fields of psychologies and sciences and so on and so forth, the basic model is founded on shaky grounds – old foundations that cannot accommodate the growths that you have. Thus, you need a far more flexible blueprint of the mind, which will lead you to a much enlarged, enriching and beneficial, advantageous world view. And as such, as a species, you may indeed find that the natural processes of fulfilling your values or value fulfillment becomes clearer.

For the moment, we will give a basic description and then flesh it out. You are all familiar with Japanese origami, correct? Now there are two types of origami. There is the standard where you fold your papers and create a small bird, or fish, or other forms. And then there is the more advanced theoretical type of origami where the same paper folded in a specific way gives you one form, but take that same paper, reconfigure the folds and you get literally an unlimited potential of forms, that can keep organizing and reorganizing itself providing a large, flexible model. Do you understand so far? Creating a form that indicates that each fold, each square, and triangle created, each angle created already contains all other possible other and potential folds, frames, squares, triangles and angles already contained within the one. It is simply a manner of reorganising the sequences to provide any desired outcome. Do you still follow that? Now bring this, perhaps poor analogy, into the field of mind and consider that instead of the standard – the solid state models that the mind has been using – your mind suddenly has the potential to be as flexible as the higher origami we have described, and we are only using terms for the sake of referencing at this point. But instead of following strict patterns you are able to use your mind and it’s potential in vast – far vaster- manner and capacity then you ever thought possible, actually tapping into its innate potential to help you navigate the small craft of your being on the high seas of life, and reality. You could easily, for instance, for the sake of an analogy, turn your small craft into a large ocean liner, able to carry you over any seas. Do you understand so far? Now, here we will take another small break and let you absorb.

8:45 PM Break Begins

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8:55 PM Session Resumes

Now, for the most part, it seems only rational to pit yourselves against nature and its forces. And in that you are indeed the most irrational, because you do not see your innate participation in the events and circumstances of nature. So our approach, on the other hand, means to lead to an understanding, not only a philosophical perception – but a true, three-dimensional, living acquiescence of the fact that the events and the elements of nature are your mind and your body. The events and the conditions and the circumstances that literally blossom all around you are your mind and body that you are presently observing. And your mistake is to think that you have nothing to do with the events and circumstances of your being. As if you were something apart from and different from, separate from the events and the circumstances of the world. And we wish to reassure you and lead you to see that, indeed, the events and the conditions and the circumstances in the outer field of events is as much you as the thoughts, the expectations and the beliefs, and the conditions that exist in the inner field of events. And to indicate some tools that are innate to your very being – not simply dry, philosophical, speculative tools – but indeed living energies that still compose the human personality, but that are not viewed and used because you are not accustomed to seeing them there.

You are accustomed to focusing on certain aspects and not on others therefore, you do not see some of the things that exist. Exactly like Joseph explained earlier about little Andrea as a child watching the television show and not hearing her mother calling her for the tenth time that dinner is ready. You are focused all intently in the events of the senses that you do not see what else exists around and within you. There are definitely living qualitative values within your psyche – we have termed them the 9 sisters because it is easier to remember, and it gives you a certain focus to aim for.

Now, in Joseph’s dream of two weeks back, he spoke of Harmony and Balance, and they are adequate sounding names. They are two aspects of the human personality, of every human personality construction, for keep in mind that the human personality is your construction. So these nine qualitative energies are living forces, part of your psyches and personalities, but not used. And obviously Balance and Harmony mean very specific things. We have also in the past referred to as Helper another aspect of every human personality. An aspect that can engage nurturing and beneficial qualities, both in the one who contemplates it, as well as the ones who receive its benefits, different from the one who contemplates. And these qualitative energies are not buried deep within the unconscious. There is no need for strange rituals or incantations to raise them from the depths of the unconscious, as if you are raising the dead. So, though we know of many people who could raise themselves from the dead, at times, but it is sufficient for you to be aware of those qualities within your persona – within the psychological constructions you call the human personality. And in times of need, call upon those qualities to become part of your experiences and impact their functions.

Helper can and does bring healing, both to the self and to others, in slightly similar yet different capacities. And there are more still and each one such energy can and does work with any of the others in any capacity possible, to bring about a greater sense of fulfilment and relationship with the constructions that appear in the world as events within time and space.

Thus, for tonight, you may as of this evening, and if you so wish even every night this week, ask Balance or Harmony or both to bring you into dream states where those qualities infuse you and your existence with their elements and pay attention to your dreams even if you think you do not remember your dreams. And indeed if you are such an individual, then pay attention to the following days, after you awaken, in the events that show up in your lives. We have suggested that what appears to you as the physical world, apparently outside of and separate from your being, is indeed still the field of your mind and psychological self. So not only look for inner but also outer situations that reflect subtle or not so subtle changes as a result of calling upon Balance and Harmony. Do you agree? Do you have questions on that topic so far?

Q. What are the other sisters?

For the time being those are sufficient – you knew we weren’t going to answer that. What is the time? (9pm). Indeed then, for this week, make it a question of exploration by calling upon Balance and Harmony and seeing how those aspects of the personality manifest themselves both in your inner and outer life simultaneously. And with that we send you our blessing.

Mark: We have one question over here.

Isabel: . You mentioned Helper also…we don’t work with this one?

You can if you so desire. Helper can be used to direct the healing energies on an unconditional basis, simply by the sending forth of loving energies, whether for yourself or others…unconditionally. Do you understand? Now then, we send you off and with these new toys and do have fun.

How else will you ever acquire a sense of Balance and Harmony if you do not have fun? Now we bid you then a pleasant and balanced evening.

9:03 PM Session Ends

Problem People at Work and Assertiveness

September 8, 2003

Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois
Transcribed by Marcy Singer
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on September 8, 2003
© Copyright 2004 Avion Rising Inc.

KRIS: We do thank you and we welcome our new friend. We hope that you will feel comfortable and we will ask all of you to speak later on. So you will have your chance to ask any questions.

Your previous inquiry is one that has much merit, as most people who work in a modern office environment of almost any kind in almost any commerce or venture are bound to be surrounded by coworkers, and therefore have to deal with a number of people on a daily basis. This means that you have to deal also from time to time with the personal issues that issue forth from their private lives into their careers or professional environments, often affecting their coworkers.

That is an unavoidable situation in your modern times, and indeed it can be perplexing when you consider that many people bring their home lives and their home struggles into the professional environments. And it is to be anticipated to a certain degree, since you are all human beings. And though you might put on your best professional or career personality, sometimes the boundaries become muddled and the personal issues flow over into the work environment and others, sometimes, get the brunt end of the axe. Correct?

Now of course you cannot go up to each such individual and give them a good verbal dressing down and demand that they better coordinate the boundaries of their personal and professional lives, because then you might get the ‘sharp edge’ of the axe.

What is one to do? Do you organize a secret meeting and then ambush the said individual? You also cannot push them out the window, nor can you demand that they do not bring such issues to the office unless you are in a supervisory position and take some action at that level.

You know, therefore, that something else must be done. And because you are learning about your own personal creative potentials, you might reflect a moment and comprehend that all of the events….ALL of the events….that occur: the external field of activities as you perceive them through your physical senses, are to one degree or another a reflection of the activity, the action, of the inner field of events. This inner field of events is what you commonly call your inner realities. The realm of the mind: that vague psychological dimension where your thoughts your imaginings, your convictions, your attitudes all converge to then create the events and circumstances as they occur in the external field of events. That is, the events and the circumstance and the conditions of your life!

These individuals that bug you, that perturb you, that may cause you some degree of stress of another are a reflection of some of the areas of your convictions that you have yet to come to terms with. They represent, in other words, certain aspects of your own self that may not be consciously acknowledged or recognized in this moment. And thus whether you call this the unconscious, the psyche, the inner self, makes some concerted effort to bring these inner conditions or situations to the attention of your conscious mind, via the attributes and the conditions of the external events that occur in your life. Do you follow that? Does that make sense to you?

– Yes.

Now then, if you encounter someone who is utterly mean, you know the one, often referred to as the office jerk or the office bitch, does it mean that you are mean as well and that you do not acknowledge that? Indeed, not necessarily. That individual may grate specific nerves, so to speak, very specific areas of your personality will respond to the proddings of that individual’s behavior, and it may be a genuine attempt to bring to your conscious attention that there are other situations in your present life that you are not addressing, dealing with properly.

For instance, some people do respond negatively to the authority figure in an office, whether it be the supervisor, the manager; regardless of how nice such an individual may be, or how understanding and compassionate. They never seem to be able to see those qualities but instead project onto ‘that’ individual their own personal issues concerning authority figures.

Perhaps said individual had many problems growing up, perhaps with an overbearing parent figure or perhaps did things as a youth that attracted the attention of the law, police officers, for example only. And now any individual that is in a position of authority may be a threat to that individual and his or her sense of freedom and expression, so that manager or supervisor may take on characteristics that are not truly theirs but are projected upon them by the individuals who are working out specific difficult challenges concerning an authority figure, and even going to another wok environment will not clean up the behavior until a certain degree of introspection and a coming to terms with those inner beliefs and values concerning authority which may feel threatening to them. Thus the manager or supervisor may be a thoroughly fine individual, but the one doing the projection has specific issues that need to be worked out.

The same projection is indeed very complex, but well worth spending the time in introspection and revising those specific convictions that you hold and thus project and expect in terms of behavior by others. So the idea would not be to bash them or yourselves over the head, but to understand that you may have some small issue with specific aspects of their personality because it grates upon certain aspects of YOUR personality, meaning that there is a degree of projection on those issues. Do you understand?

It is also much easier to work this way because most other ways usually only end up in many degrees of frustration, because then you have exchanges of ‘blame’ and ‘victim-hood’. By utilizing the approach we have suggested, your own challenges will be resolved to one degree or another, thus the energy that you are projecting is no longer being used in that fashion, but instead used to open more creative and energetic patterns by which you can grow as a personality, better utilize your construction within reality. Thus you feed them no more, and in return you not feeding them negativity to one degree or another, you can only then feed them inner well-being and goodness.

By opening yourselves up to other areas to the self that bring a natural state of balance and harmony in your personal lives, you project the same condition onto others, therefore they must respond in kind. Most individuals are concerned and fearful of projecting their own negativity onto others and that often remains the focus that they hold, which in itself is not very clear nor helpful.

Thus if you begin to project the same joy and loving abandon that you experience on a daily basis, then those around you must also give you back what you project. Does that make some sense?

As we have suggested in the past, an inner reflection upon joy, even if no more than for five minutes in the morning can tip the scale radically into depths of joy and well-being, which can be literally spread around in all directions, so that whoever you come in contact with may feel some of that joy, even if they do not know why they might suddenly feel a bit more enjoyment about the day or there is a little more bounce in their footstep or suddenly they are prone to smile.

AUDIENCE: It’s catching!

KRIS: Fortunately, that is one kind of ‘epidemic’ you are HIGHLY encouraged to develop, to cultivate, and to be filled with. Most of you worry about spreading negativity, germs, bacteria, problems, illnesses; but you do not seem so concerned, or at least not unduly, about spreading around a different type of virus, one of sheer joy, the enjoyment of being alive, of reveling in your senses, your creature-hood, enjoying your moment here, moment to moment. Many of your species would rather spread despair, which is not a good recipe.

Instead if you concerned yourself with celebrating your joyous interactions with physical life, your many problems would disappear. If you concerned yourselves as a species with spreading joy, then guaranteed, most of you would stop producing weapons of mass destruction and instead you would create, for lack of a better term, weapons of massive enjoyment.

You would make it your business to be infectious; you would infect others with laughter, with a smile, with goodness. You seem as a species to be already convinced that the smiles that you can create on your faces have very little effect but a frown could wipe off your entire day. So you give power, YOUR power away far too easily to negative situations, without realizing that life itself has no negatives and positive, that it simply is a reflection of your attitudes, expectations and convictions, and if your convictions are such that you are happy, you are a joyous being and a joy filled one, then you can expect that to show itself in every little corner of the day.

Now we do not wish to hog the entire evening, so we will give you a small break. Then if you are lucky it will be more than four minutes.

BREAK – Unrecorded discussions.

KRIS: Now we are getting to the meat. In some similar area we are still feeling a degree of discomfort in observing the other in their predicament. Correct? So to some degree that or those individuals are still portraying certain aspects within you that may not be as resolved as you might like to think. This is not necessarily to mean that you have problems. It may indicate that there is an area in your own mind so to speak, that could be organized and perceived in a different manner.

Here is what I mean: The individual that is playing the role of, we will simply call it the incompetent, may not yet have the resources needed or necessary to accomplish a smooth transition from the state of in-competency or simply lack of better management resources into a position where they can better handle their mental constructions. Does that help so far? (– Yes). They might feel they do not have the proper understanding, resources and tools needed to accomplish the task at hand, and they might deny this as well.

Now, let us say for instance it is someone you know and you perceive these things and you also know it is not your position to go up to them, put your finger in their nose and say: “Hey listen” because that would cause more problems. Correct?

Now then, what is it that you might be able to do to help such an individual, without stepping into the scenario, and be pushed away for that act as if you are stepping where you do not belong!

First of all, a good method would be for you to understand that you have the ability not only to change your situation, your perception, but as a direct result of that change within you, you would mentally and telepathically encourage that individual to make use of tools and resources that are within his or her personality in one form or another, or get those tools and resources to accomplish the task at hand, and this is done by changing your perspective of them.

The personality traits that that individual shows you have in some respect to match to some degree what you expect of them. This may get a little bit more complex because they are also projecting upon YOU as much as you might be projecting upon them. When you understand the game, so to speak, when you understand the play it is easier to step aside and handle it from your end, giving the other individual then, the POTENTIAL to alter their definition of themselves. All individuals in your world define themselves according to the perceptions of others to a large degree because you cannot help not reflecting, not projecting. You either project what you call the negative or positive states. Positive states encourage others to open up, to spread their wings. Negative projections keep you and the other locked in a stalemate. Do you understand?

So by working on the resolution within you and then projecting positive mental constructions, you give the other the opportunity to latch onto the same openness of spirit, the same resources that have enabled you to experience a more positive and grounded approach, and therefore they may and will interpret that into their own personality traits, altering whom and what they are.

That is possibly the best that you can do if you are limited in the manner in which you can approach it. Change the reality from within you to enable the other the tools to make change. Does that make sense?

Do not forget that you live in an ocean of thoughts. You are first and foremost telepathic beings and … never mind the Hollywood version of telepathy! You are even free to experiment and test your own telepathic potential at any time you so wish and you will see that it actually works far better than you could possibly anticipate. Your thoughts, therefore, literally create a unique version of an individual, and not the individual himself or herself. You interpret the individual through your convictions and your projections, therefore. The more you project the positive joyous, life enriching situation the more the other is then able to display and project the same. You need not worry, you will not all turn into California tree huggers, though you might be prone once in awhile to hug “A” tree. But you at least get the picture.

You are never at the mercy of another unless you keep bouncing back and forth amongst yourselves constant negative states. Then it matters little who is at the mercy of whom, you are all acting by default into negative states. By understanding that your thoughts, your mental constructions become your physical constructions, both at the level of matter or psychological states, then you have truly made headway into understanding what is the nature of reality and existence.

What is the purpose of life? You are here to construct, and it matters not what you construct. You will always construct. What IS important is: are you able to transform energy, consciousness from that raw element of life and using that material construct positive and joyous situations that enables each and every one in your environment, to enjoy and enhance his or her life condition?? Or do you construct from the raw matter of consciousness, situations where you and others become so embittered with life that you fall into states of despair? Either way you are constructing. But one of these ways is more advantageous. Do you understand?

Thus by understanding that small place from within you, you can alter your perceptions of one individual you can also alter the perceptions of the entire universe. Because that it is your universe, and that is your universe, and that is your universe (pointing to different people in the room). So you do not need to change another individual or his or her universe. Change yours. Does that answer your question? And we are certain that it leads to many more questions. But if you like we will give you a small break.

Assertiveness:

KRIS: Your question is also highly important really, because you need to understand that you never create or construct a situation, ever, without an agreement, and engagement with yourself and other or many others, even if that engagement is not conscious at this time for the reason you have chosen to hide it from yourself. There are no accidents as such, nor are there coincidences, but instead cascading series of synchronicities.

You live in a telepathic universe as we suggested a very short while ago, where you are constantly psychically or psychologically in touch with the other individuals who will share the events and the conditions of your day-to-day activities, whether it is in the dream state or in other states of consciousness you make your engagements.

Thus two people may come together or ten or a hundred and they do so with a set purpose, with reasons, even if they do not consciously know the reasons, they still come together for purposes that may be unknown at that moment. Two people may come together because they need to work out a challenge or an issue that may not have been satisfactorily resolved from another lifetime where conditions may not have permitted as good a resolution as this time will bring. So they may come together with deep issues to bring recognition, understanding and resolution. Ten people may come for the same reasons or a hundred may come for the same reasons, but you must always know that all of your actions are undertaken for reasons you might not initially be aware of.

There are other people that you have earlier described to our friend Joseph here, who may seem to take and take and take, forcing you it seems, to give and give and give. And all you may be getting return is a request for more and more and more. Correct?

Now it is possible that such individuals may come into your life so that you eventually get the idea that it is a fine and good thing to give, and it is also a good thing to stop giving, that you can also know when to draw the line so that you develop a stronger sense of dignity for yourself.

Now that leads to another issue that you deal with often. You have good resources, good intentions, but you are afraid of yourself. You are afraid of the power and energy that is within you. However you understand that, you need to recognize that even if someone else thinks it is not so nice of you to say no, you are on much higher ground if you CAN say no. Otherwise others will keep taking and taking and taking and you will have nothing left. Do you understand that?

Once you get there and you make the connection yourself, you will experience a change in the way you respond to your own self, both spiritual and biological because the two are stitched together, so to speak. You, all of you, are wrapped into, you are weaved into the very fabric of the atoms and the molecules and the cells that compose your flesh and your bones. You are simply consciousness that appears as form. And though you are much different from your forms, your forms, your bodies are an integral expression of those aspects of your being that are not visible. They too, your bodies, are projections of the constructions that you have made of yourselves. Do you understand?

So treat them, your bodies, not as lowly things, or as impediments to your spiritual growth but instead as the very instrument through which the spiritual growth can express itself.

There are millions of cells in your bodies, and there is enough energy in one of your cells to shine brighter than a hundred suns. And there are millions of cells in your body and you still insist that your bodies are keeping from being more spiritual. Nothing could be further from the truth. You are more spiritual because you can express it through your body. You do not have to pretend to be anything other than yourselves. That is when you are being spiritual when you are enjoying your flesh, your body; you are reveling in its abilities to transform energy into living situations.

So we believe then that this should be enough for tonight for you are so bright (general laughter); unless you have another question.

Keep in mind that the senses give you one interpretation of reality. They do not show you the entire picture but only that picture they can faithfully interpret for you. When you believe that their interpretation is ALL that there is about reality, then you are visibly swallowing a lie because your eyes, for instance, tell you that within the four walls of this room there is empty space and you believe your eyes. But if you did not believe your eyes for a moment you might “see” that this room is filled with consciousness. It is actually overflowing with mental constructions from your selves and from millions of other beings!

So if you play with those concepts and you understand the principle of projection even to a small degree, you will catch glimpses of other realities that you did not think existed because your senses, your eyes, said there was nothing there. You are accustomed to thinking that because you have one physical brain you must therefore have one nonphysical mind, and some of you in this world actually think that the brain and the mind are the same thing. Thus when it comes to the time of death you literally defecate because it scares, as the Scots say, the ‘shite’ out of you (general laughter). If you were to understand that even though you have one brain you are not limited to one mind you have many minds, that will give you a clue as to the many different constructions that you can project upon the world. Does that make sense to you?

So there are no questions for the time being. Then enjoy your many minds through your one brain and understand that your physical bodies are far more important than you ever suspected. Do enjoy your physical beings and that way you know you are being more spiritual. And we wish you a pleasant week.

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