Mental Conditions That Afflict Humans
June 30, 2003
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois
Transcribed by Marcy Singer (Arindel)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on June 30, 2003
© Copyright 2005 Avion Rising Inc.
KRIS: We do thank you both for having taken the time to come and visit, those near and far.
You were discussing earlier about various mental conditions that afflict human beings. And it should always be kept in your minds that indeed there is a thin veil that separates those considered normal and those you might more easily label as disturbed.
What you do not realize is that in your own way you also manifest or display various personality structures, each one expressing various intents, wanting different experiences from reality. But your own personality constructs are highly polished and flow very smoothly one into the other to such a degree that you do not really see any changes that may take place or not. And when you speak with others who follow the same general patterns as yourselves, you do not see any changes unless they are rather radical.
But when you interact with someone who suffers from bi-polar or split or multiple personality disorders, the demarcations are very pronounced. The shift in personality structure or construct is sometimes radical, sometimes even outright dangerous because they have lost the ability to polish the seams between their various segments as well as you have. They no longer seem to be able to regulate and control how these different personalities can flow easily into one generalized picture of you because the ego structure on their part has somehow or other relinquished that nicely polished and cleverly organized method of putting the personality fragments together.
So their ego and their selves are fragmented, but not in a way that can easily be put together again. And this may be due to various factors, most of which can have to do with their need to not deal with the flow of events and circumstance in daily reality as easily as you can.
Thus their own personalities fluctuate, vacillate and can be altered according to the circumstances, the conditions and the events they go through on a daily basis, whilst your own personalities flow very easily in and around and through the events and the circumstances of your daily life. So they are in a continual battle to maintain what they may see as warring factions of the self as if they are at war with their own impulses, their own beliefs and expectations.
And thus they relinquish fainting their overall personality structure the way everyone else does. And each one may have different reasons, but it still hinges on their own views and expectations concerning their private selves. While your private selves can be demonstrated more easily, theirs is not.
And they even over emphasize the personality traits they are displaying at any time to truly indicate that they have abdicated keeping the personality in nice neat order to the point where they may no longer be able to distinguish between those personality traits that are socially acceptable and those that are not.
So they are pitted against themselves, and it is indeed a most fascinating challenge to undertake within the realm of physical idea constructions in terms of their private and collective universe, giving themselves such a challenge. And it does overall annoy those people who have better handle on their personalities because it reminds the regular individual that indeed their own personality fragments are not that far from the schizophrenic or multiple personality patient. Do you understand?
QUESTION: I do somewhat. May I ask a question?
KRIS: Please do.
QUESTION: Is it basically that they do not have a grip on their emotions?
KRIS: Actually we would have to say, too much of a grip on their emotions, so wanting to control emotions that the emotions and the power behind them becomes overwhelming because they have allowed situations to boil within them to the point where the emotions now appear overwhelming, as if they are now having to surrender to a superior force.
So you are dealing with individuals who thoroughly believe that there are at times forces within them that can hardly be controlled and tolerated, so they have to abdicate. And there are even some individuals who, whether consciously or unconsciously, who will deliberately sabotage brain chemistry to maintain the condition.
So it is a precarious development, but one that is little understood because your sciences today do not understand the basic construction of personality and ego. And when something goes awry or off the mark, most individuals become frightened, thinking they are losing their grip on reality, precisely because their grip has been so strong because you have all been taught to fear not only life but the very life that tries to live itself through you and within you.
So the schizophrenic, the individual who suffers from split and multiple personality syndrome, actually reflects to some degree, can also play a role and reflect your own collective fears and misunderstandings about human personality construct, how you are held together as an individual and a personality.
Much more can be learned, not by always and immediately medicating them, but by helping such individuals consolidate, mitigate and come to terms with their own personality fragments, making some various compromises and helping them understand the wholeness of the individual, instead of very often having them dealt with by psychiatrists and psychologists who only help them fragment that much more to the point where you have to sedate them so heavily with medication that you actually impede their healing processes.
QUESTION: I had a young lady living in the basement for a month, and you could be nice to her, be pleasant to her, do all kinds of nice things for her and behind your back she is talking about you. Behind your back she is saying bad things about you even though to your face she is saying something else. I couldn’t understand that kind of personality. You try to good for her, to help her out and she backstabs you. What is that?
KRIS: It may not have so much to do with her as it might as far as you are concerned have to do with what you think and believe especially concerning your own private self. The individuals that you meet on your human journey reflect back to you your own worst fears about yourself. And though you might not consider yourself to be a back stabber, you might be unable to appreciate some of your deeper qualities and consider yourself much inferior to what you would like in your own life. Do you understand that?
QUESTION: That’s deep. Are you saying that that’s a mirror of my soul?
KRIS: To a certain degree. She does have her own problems, but she is still mirroring your own challenges concerning self worth and self respect.
QUESTION: So she is like the manifestation of my own fear?
KRIS: Only in part concerning self worth, self respect, how you see yourself concerning others. It is not a matter of feeling bad about yourself but an indication that there are definitely areas that you can work and create substantial changes to your own self worth. Do you understand?
QUESTION: To an extent yes. A little light is shining there.
KRIS: It is something for you to ponder. Now as to dealing with this young lady you do not have to confront her nor do you need to even approach her, but from here you can learn to appreciate yourself that much more and from that place send her some unconditional loving. From here see her as she does not see herself. See that there is still within that person an eternal and immortal consciousness. Do you understand? That in spite of all appearances, there is still an individual within that body that may be temporarily incapacitated and that is not necessarily something you need to tell her, but from your own heart send forth loving energy. Appreciate her from afar. Do you understand?
QUESTION: Yes, unconditional love.
KRIS: And use the same energy towards yourself, but in your case appreciate yourself from very nearby and then move on. You may even suggest to your unconscious or inner self before you go to sleep to find ways where lessons in self worth, self appreciation and self love might be more easily learned, and more quickly. And then pay attention to daily life for the clues will pop up.
You may find it very practical. Work of all kinds must be done from within the self. There are no other solutions.
QUESTION: Continue with weeding out, eh?
KRIS: Weeding out is a good practice, but if you weed out you must put something back. Every time you remove your weeds, plant pretty flowers. Otherwise you simply leave room for more weeds. Do you understand?
(Yes)
Now we hope that we have not gone off the deep end with all of this.
QUESTION: Not at all Kris. One thing I’m wondering about, just folding that into the earlier conversation, how would your take be on those that have multiple personalities as opposed to piggy-backing, speaking in shamanism terms? Piggy backing of one consciousness onto another in order for both consciousnesses to learn, can that experience of the piggy backing at times be confused with or interpreted as schizophrenia or multiple personality disorder, etc.?
KRIS: On the one hand the clinically labeled are usually unable to deal with specific life conditions and situations, therefore they retreat and let other fragments deal with the events. Do you understand?
(Yes)
Now in other instance that you have described, and we wish to be clearly understood here, there can be no piggy backing of any kind without some acquiescence by the individual who is going to carry the pig. Do you understand?
QUESTION: Yes, they have to accept the arrangement.
KRIS: It must serve some powerful but unconscious purpose and it cannot occur without the individual agreeing to it, knowing full well that first of all this is their interpretation of the individual and not the individual’s energy. Do you understand that?
QUESTION: Yes, there’s a very subtle difference.
KRIS: Indeed, because the original personality will change, whereas the piggy backed personality does not change over ten, twenty, thirty, forty years of time, so that is the construct of the one who is going to carry the pig. Do you understand?
QUESTION: Yes, it makes perfect sense to me.
KRIS: Now, how to get the pig to squeal off. First of all, you might need to dig up the reason why this was agreed to in the first place. Look to guilt. Always to guilt. ALWAYS TO GUILT. It is rooted in the tree of guilt. Do you understand?
(Yes)
I failed my parents. I failed my mother. I failed my father. I failed my family. I failed my self. To one degree or another it is joined at the hip like Siamese twins. Do you follow?
(Yes)
Now, once you are able to dig up that guilt, then you can decide do you still wish to carry these burdens that you have manufactured over time, or do you want to get rid of them? And the so called energies may object, but they cannot maintain their position if you change and release, so the individual who is doing the piggy backing must at some point come to a conclusion. Either the burden will continue to be carried or my life will now do a turn around and I will no longer continue inventing the recordings and the old movies I wish to change. Do you understand?
(Yes)
The audible recordings are still played over and over, but they can diminish in intensity as you instruct them. For instance if you television is too loud, you turn down the volume. If your radio is too loud you turn it down as well. Anything that the one who is doing the carrying no longer wants can start turning off the switches. There may be some mental objections, but if you have already discovered the benefits that you derived from carrying these sub images, and they are manufactured sub personalities. Does that make sense to you?
QUESTION: Yeah, it does but I’m going to ask for clarity in a moment.
KRIS: Indeed. So once you have dug out first the reasons for you agreeing to these inner aspects and the benefits that you thought you were able to derive from it, then you can start turning off the switches and instructing those old recordings that you will no longer be playing them but instead choose to create something else. And as suggested, you might get some objections and resistances because they are patterns that have been accepted by the self and the ego, and until the ego specifically and the self become comfortable enough with the idea that they can still continue surviving without these recordings, there may be some small storms until the calmer weather moves in, but always working with the gentle suggestions and affirmative mental actions. Then the whole structure of the personality basically realigns itself in a manner that makes proper utilization of your energies. Whereas previously energies, large amounts of energies, might have been used both to maintain the sub personalities and fight them off at the same time. Now the energies can be better utilized to focus new goals, new directions, new purposes, new intentions, and new expectations, thus basically unleashing those energies in a path that is far more productive.
QUESTION: Right. I understand that from the part of the one who is carrying the burden. You talked about the piggy backing personality being a sub personality. What benefit is derived by the sub personality? And I’m asking this because I remember a statement in one of Jane Robert’s books where they were talking about her mother who had died, and Seth was saying that her father had wanted to piggy back onto the mother and the mother said no, forget it. If these are sub personalities that the one carrying the burden creates, how does that fit into say an example like this? Was Seth speaking only from the position of Marie? Or was he actually speaking from the perspective of Jane’s father?
KRIS: When the individual creates a sub personality, he or she will always use the traits of the original model. Now energy will be transferred, but it is no longer maintained by the original. At that point it becomes the property of the new carrier, and the carrier must now keep that energy alive because it has agreed to, but it is its own construction and interpretation because it keeps it in that same pattern over long periods of time where ordinarily the original personality would have evolved. It is no longer part of the original. So it has gotten a contract. It has taken on only the pattern that was originally imprinted by it. Do you understand?
QUESTION: Yes. It makes sense to me now.
KRIS: Thus Jane kept that pattern whilst the original Marie had by then changed. It was only a fragment and it was no longer the property of the original. It had been so transformed that even Marie might not have recognized it as her own. Do you understand?
QUESTION: Yes I understand now.
KRIS: Does that make sense?
QUESTION: Perfectly now. It was just getting from both sides what happened. But you’ve answered it well, thank you very much.
KRIS: Far be it from us to have gotten degrees and PhD’s in psychology and psychiatry otherwise we would not have been able to explain it to you.
QUESTION: That’s why I asked you!
KRIS: Indeed. Now with all of this talk of personalities, we will give your charming personalities a break.
Break begins.
Session resumes
KRIS: Now your little device is working fine.
QUESTION: Oh good. Thank you Kris.
KRIS: Indeed when you take your birth in this world, you do not come here with an empty slate to be filled only with what you are taught by your parents and family unit and your schooling and educational system. If that were the case most of you would be little more than idiots. If you pay careful attention you will notice that before you learned how to read, you were able to see and no one taught you how to see. Before you were able to do anything at all you actually were able to think. The educational system, the family unit and the parents, they put those talents in a particular direction. But you were able to formulate thoughts before you were taught how to structure your thinking along specific lines.
And that all comes from what you would call the unconscious. You have had these innate abilities to create your own psychological environment before you accepted the environmental conditions through which you then grew up in. Do you follow?
(Yes)
Indeed. The same as you were able to hear before you were taught how to separate syllables and vowels and consonants and etc. and etc. and how to string words together into linear stories. So there was a process occurring within you before all of this. And that process is related to an inner individual, if you wish, that stands apart from the personality you project to the 3-dimensional world. Do you follow so far?
You basically project your personality outwards into the world. Do you understand? That projection comes from somewhere within, to use very basic language, and the personality you project in this world is one of many.
We spoke earlier of fragments of the personality where yours is nicely polished and someone else’s is not. At the core of your being there are always personalities emerging. But they do not all have the opportunity to occupy the same time space continuum, the same slot in reality, so they take other reality time slots, if you like. Do you follow? They appear in terms of other lives with their own historical conditions, their own flow of time and space, their own unique and specifically geared reality, whether it is ancient, semi ancient, extremely ancient, recent, modern, or future lives. They are all projections of this inner self with all the unlimited characteristics and traits at its disposal. Do you understand so far? Or have we lost you now?
QUESTION: I’m trying to understand what you’re saying. Are you saying that perhaps I could have the personality I have now could be something from way back in ancient times?
KRIS: What we are saying is that the inner self, the core of your being, has many different personalities it displays in many different times. You are one of those personalities in this time. There are others in other times. You call them past lives, though you do not normally consider future lives, although they are this as well. They are all unique as you are. They are all individual as you are. And at the same time even if you were to put them all together, they still do not provide a whole and compete self. There are still more because you are an unlimited, eternal and immortal consciousness. The only restraints to your understandings are your ideas of time and space. But to the inner self, the core of your being, there are no such limitations. It does not care about your views of time and space.
Thus it creates different individualistic personalities because it seeks to experience and enjoy life in as many variations and forms as possible. Again, you call them other or past lives because they exist in something that is called eternal now. And as Joseph mentioned earlier, chronological time is a manmade structure and you conform to it.
Now sometimes in those other lives of yours you may undertake experiences that could be somewhat traumatic and in this circumstance we see one of yourselves as a young man, possibly in the mid to later 15th century. We believe that you are there focused. We believe the country is Tunisia or very near this country, and that your own young man lifetime is Muslim and that as a young Muslim man you stole. What would the punishment be?
QUESTION: Cut the hand off.
KRIS: Or at least fingers. And we believe that this was so traumatic to the personality that there are still imprints of that disaster that the young man in your terms was then considered an outcast and since he had been trained as a pick pocket was no longer able to carry out his pick pocketing duties and eventually died of starvation. Do you understand?
(Yes)
You also entertain some very strict moral values. Correct? And we are not here saying that they are too rigid but they are somewhat rigid to your personality.
QUESTION: To me.
KRIS: Indeed. And we are not saying to dispense with them, but it would assist your own immune system if you were somewhat more lenient with yourself, even forgiving, even small transgressions. Consider them as lessons you learn on the road of life and not as morbid situations that will cause you undue and eternal grief. Do you understand?
QUESTION: I didn’t quite understand what you just said to me just a minute ago. I kind of got lost there.
KRIS: Some of your own moral values are very rigid. And when you do something that you think must be punishable. Do you understand? What seems to occur is to create a direct flash to that unconscious lifetime of the boy. Do you understand? Now if your own views of reality were softened, not dispensed with but softened, be easier on yourself, and therefore do not feel guilty because you are loving yourself, for it has nothing to do with a hedonistic loving but a genuine, unconditional loving to yourself as easily as you give it out to someone else, you might feel less burdened. Do you follow?
(Yes)
That might also strengthen your immune system in a very beneficial manner, and we would suggest that you try out using auto suggestion in a gentle manner that you suggest to your inner self, your unconscious self, that there is no longer any need to focus upon that particular lifetime and have some of the situation psychologically transfer in this life. That instead you would welcome the development of more self-appreciation, self-loving from the deep source of your being, guilt free. Do you follow?
QUESTION: Yeah. I want to ask you one question. Does this mean that any experiences that I receive from here on out I must accept regardless of what happens to me?
KRIS: Not necessarily. It does not mean to throw out the baby with the bath water. Simply learn to be somewhat more gentle with yourself. There is no need to hit yourself in the head with a psychological 2 x 4 every time something occurs.
QUESTION: In other words, sometimes things will happen beyond my control. Accept it?
KRIS: Let it roll off your back. Do not carry it with you over and over again.
QUESTION: So things will happen beyond my control. I can’t……
KRIS: There are events that the ego personality might not comprehend. There is nothing to berate yourself incessantly about them. Do the best that you can with what you have at hand. Then let life reveal its joys to you by becoming a joyous person. Do you follow? And joy is not something you take on in the morning. It is something that comes from within.
Consider that you draw to yourself those challenges that you are able to deal with, and no more. Therefore, you can only draw to yourself those conditions that you are able to deal with. There is a fine line and we wish you to understand it. You cannot draw to yourself a situation that you cannot handle. Do you understand that? In other words all situations that appear in your life you have drawn them because you can deal with them to one degree or another. And learn to rely more upon your inner or unconscious self. And enjoy life. Does this help?
(Yes)
And you can also suggest to your unconscious or inner self that it send unconditional loving energy and support to that boy so that he knows even if only unconsciously that he is still cared for.
What is the time?
(8:50)
Do you have other questions?
QUESTION: I just have a comment. I find it interesting in discussing this past life/present life situation. It kind of flashed that it was almost the same as what we were talking about in the first situation with the piggyback.
KRIS: Indeed. We were hoping that one of you would catch it.
QUESTION: Because it is the guilt of the boy that causes this personality to hold onto the construct of the guilt that must be punished.
KRIS: And in addition to the fact that she has certain perspectives upon herself that she feels guilty about to draw at. Do you understand that too?
QUESTION: I can’t help it because it’s there. It’s facing me at all times. And people see it and people remind me. So that’s why I didn’t know that in a past life I was a boy and this happened to me. I just knew that this was upon me.
KRIS: Indeed. That is the conscious part of you. The unconscious knows.
QUESTION: And I have an awful picture of my head, the inner self sitting back there and saying isn’t that cool, the two of them are finally realizing how things get together and comparing the past lives and seeing how they are interacting. Not past lives, but the fragments and seeing how they are beginning to interact.
KRIS: Indeed. There is such aliveness throughout the universe and it goes unseen by most of you. But we do not fault you for that. When you discover it you get to know yourselves that much more because it is said somewhere that you need to know yourselves. What is the nature of that self that you need to know? Is it the one that you see in the mirror with your eyes? Indeed not. That is one expression only of a multi faceted, multi dimensional being. That is the spark of the self that your eyes and your senses show you. The senses do not show you the rest of yourself, but you can sense more of that self by discovering it. Do you make sense of that?
QUESTION: This is all new to me.
KRIS: Indeed, in part. You have also some good intuitive talents that you are somewhat reluctant to delve into. We believe that stems from your upbringing.
QUESTION: How do I strengthen that?
KRIS: Take a chance. Allow your intuitions to show themselves to you. You may find that indeed there is nothing scary about this at all. In fact it is an innate and built in function of the self to go beyond the sensory perceptions. But when the ego has been trained to be very rigid, it blocks out what it has been trained to block out. But if you allow it learn new skills such as the understanding that it is not alone but indeed is supported by a great network of intelligent, sentient consciousness and that in no way is it threatened but that it can be fed, then indeed it might be easier for you to explore those other dimensions of your being.
An excellent starting point is write poetry in any way shape or form that you can make sense of. You do not have to be the next great poet, but simply write what comes through the heart. Do you understand?
(Yes)
Let it flow and as the song says, be happy.
QUESTION: Is the reading of tarot okay to do that too?
KRIS: Excellent.
QUESTION: Because I’ve been doing that lately.
KRIS: If you so desire Joseph here can give you a phone number of an excellent tarot consultant. This young fellow is actually having some video of tarot readings at his house soon. And which is free. It might enhance your understanding of tarot.
Now, do you have any last question?
QUESTION: Not for me Kris. Thank you very much.
KRIS: Indeed. Do you still have your headaches?
(Yes)
Apply small pressure right here, gentle clockwise circle. And allow that sensation to actually wrap itself around your head like a hat or a circle or a band. And then as it encircles your head allow it to expand to approximately several inches around your head until it reaches even several feet until it actually expands beyond the confines of this room and it reaches beyond the confines of this house. Let it go entirely. That should space you out for a few minutes.
Now with that we will bid you a most pleasant evening and may you create for yourselves a great week.
The Dance of Life
June 23, 2003
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois
Transcribed by Marcy Singer (Arindel)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on June 23, 2003
© Copyright 2005 Avion Rising Inc.
KRIS: We are glad to see you here, both of you. And we are certainly thankful that you have braved the heat to come here.
Earlier on you were speaking about dance, the flamenco, and so many other dances that not only instill but awaken those deeper human passions deep from within the human heart for existence itself. Dance and music, therefore, have been with mankind and humankind even from the pre-physical state in ways that have always triggered a deep sense of being alive regardless of the culture and the background. That is why humans can create music and dance so readily and why others fall into it as readily.
The idea of interpreting and thus creating music stems from the deepest connection that you have with the universe at some much deeper level than you are normally aware of. The space that fills this room, the space anywhere that is apparently empty or devoid of form only appears so to your physical senses because they can only interpret certain wavelengths of consciousness.
But space is always filled, even if you cannot see what it is filled with. And that space and all space occupied with consciousness is not bland and devoid of everything simply because your senses do not pick it up. Space is not a vacuum, per se. There are great exchanges of energy and transformations of energy where you cannot detect it. And there are always activities, action in all corners of the universe.
The ancient Egyptians and the ancient Greeks, for instance, had established and the Greeks further developed of harmonies, sometimes referred to as celestial harmonies, divine harmonies, heavenly harmonies. They had the notion, for instance, that the ethers, what you call the vacuum of space, where you may even find celestial bodies, planets and suns and moons, created specific harmonics in their movements across the heavens and amongst other galaxies. And such a notion helped them develop their own unique type of musical scales, considered divine in origin, and in truth they were not far off the mark.
Though your ears pick up a greater range of sounds, your ears do not pick up all sounds. The dog’s ears are far more attuned, at least a dog who is not dead, and picks up ranges of sound above and below the range that your ears are able to detect. Thus the dog’s ears and many other animal’s ears can hear so many more things than you can, but it is assumed that you can only pick up between certain scales of sound there is nothing else in between. And there you might be mistaken, for indeed the celestial bodies do emit specific wavelengths of sound, most of which you do not detect.
Your own bodies produce sounds that you do not hear, for example. You are spared from hearing your own heart beat and pump blood through your veins. For if you did the sound of it surely might deafen you, but you do not hear it unless you use a stethoscope. And yet it is not that far from your eardrums.
You do not hear the sound of the stars nor do you hear the sound of the trees as they grow and mature and take up some of the space in your reality. Nor do you hear the sound from your own thoughts. Nor do you hear the sounds from the events and activities in your dreams, though you may occasionally remember some of them, including conversations.
So your range and ability to hear sound is rather limited. But here again you have accustomed yourselves to accept sound only from your ears, though you could detect sounds with your other body parts and other senses. You have become so compartmentalized that you find the notion of seeing sounds quite strange. Or of hearing color.
However, if you practiced incorporating other abilities within your senses, you could detect a much greater range of activities in physical creation, whereas you could as we have just indicated feel sound, hear color, see sound, feel a color without the use of your eyes, for instance, or even with it. You could even touch/hear forms.
So all of this is trying to impress upon you that it is possible to experience much more from your physical senses than what you presently do and in that way expand your abilities to understand your role and position within time and space.
And we have described this because many ancient cultures did not pigeon hole themselves as much as you have in your present culture and thus were able to appreciate so many different aspects of physical reality including slightly different technologies than the ones you presently have, as well as different sciences and physics. And it is not impossible for you to open yourselves up to a broader range of sensory feedback without being restricted by any one sense in particular.
And what the ancient ancestors tried to do by the creation of music, musical notes and dance was to reproduce the dance and the music of celestial and heavenly bodies, of the movement of the stars, of the wind in the leaves, of the song of the water over pebbles as in a small brook. They tried to recreate some of the things they heard within their own minds and thus incorporate into their very physical expressions the substance that makes the world what it is in their own fashion.
Do you have questions on what we have said?
QUESTION: Why do we tune that out? Is it because we can’t cope with that much sound and vibration? We can feel vibration in our physical bodies and even feel sick if we get too much vibration in our bodies.
KRIS: There are different types of vibrations, some that would not make you feel ill. Some of this is the result of the intensified focus that you have organized through the ego, that part of you that organizes the pretty picture of physical reality without going over the line, so to speak. Do you follow?
If you look at children when they play with their coloring crayons, it is usually the adults’ concern that the child not color outside of the lines but stay within the guidelines. Do you understand?
That is actually the ego’s need to understand that it has control over its environment and that everything will stay neatly within the lines of the parameters of the beliefs that are acceptable to social values. Thus very early on the child is also trained in that way for it is highly significant that the child draw within the lines. Do you follow that?
As the ego develops it can, not all egos respond this way, but overall the ego is able to perceive realities outside of the lines. Other drawings, for instance, can exist outside the lines and it will not change, but some believe otherwise just as in some of the old days it was believed that if you went further than the horizon in the ocean you would fall off the world. Do you remember those in your history lessons?
A similar principle exists here, in psychological terms. The ego’s function is to make certain that your experiences of physical reality match your beliefs, and it will engender a series of beliefs to that effect. But when you are sufficiently wise to go beyond your own shell and you being your ego with you, then it may start perceiving a wider spectrum of reality.
But initially the focus upon physical reality necessitates that those realities that exist outside of the lines be somewhat blocked off. The ego likes its position, so there is no specific reason to start stretching outside the lines until you pick up an interest in it. Do you follow?
QUESTION: The ‘you’ that we are talking about is the higher self or the soul that tries to move beyond the ego?
KRIS: We would address is as the ‘whole self.’ The personality is aware that it is more than the sum of all of its parts, and the ego also is aware of this, but it has to be gently coaxed to be able to act upon this. Once it realizes that it and you will not be annihilated because you drew outside the lines, then it breathes easier. But it will always keep an eye on you that you do not stray too much outside the lines unless it is somewhat approved. Do you understand?
That too is a dance. Look at the way your own dancing apprenticeship has enabled you to get in touch with feelings and fashions that otherwise you would have shunned. Do you follow?
So you are using this in a way to get in touch with a greater hunger for living than you have allowed yourself for sometimes otherwise. Does that make sense to you?
And since it is also a rather ancient form of entertainment and something that speaks to you and others, you allow yourself to ride that wave as much as you can from one step to the other. Does that make some sense to you?
Rare is the individual who does not like dance. Some may not wish to dance but will often observe a dancer because it speaks of the ancient memories. It stirs ancient echoes of this dance that exists between all life forms, even between atoms and molecules as they spin their electrons and protons as they accelerate and slow their rate of spinning to create various forms and structures, both within and outside of physical reality and your perceptions thereof.
So at this other level, all dance, all music seeks to express this unseen and often ignored dance of life that goes on all around, this dance of energy that flows in and through each individual. Does that make sense to you?
QUESTION: Why is it that some people don’t dance and don’t want to dance? Is that their ego shutting them down, to stay inside the lines?
KRIS: That to varying degrees. There are many personal reasons. There could be shyness involved. There could be issues with their upbringing, parental controls. There is sometimes the fear of expressing the deeper waves of passion and life that often come to the surface when one dances. Sometimes these are issues of control over one’s self. Do you understand?
QUESTION: I’m just thinking that there are a lot of men who don’t want to dance and don’t like to dance and don’t know how to dance.
KRIS: Which could also mean they will not dance. Often ‘I can’t dance’ means ‘I will NOT dance.’
QUESTION: Is that a battle between the ego and letting one’s self go?
KRIS: It is a fear of letting, enjoying that moment, perhaps letting go enough to even appear silly doing dance. There are very many reasons. Some people find that a dance is far to physical and can only enjoy the intellectual aspects of life and so many others. But dance is good.
Many of your ancestors all enjoyed a great variety of dances because it expressed the deeper rhythms of life. Your contact with the planet, for instance, that is a dance in its own way. And dance also expresses your creature hood. It is sensual. It can even be erotic. It awakens untold passions in many individuals. Some prefer not to, while other feel free enough to let go and enjoy the moment and the connection between the music and the dance and their souls.
Now what is the time?
(8:00)
We suggest a small pause so that you can enjoy yourselves.
Break begins.
Session resumes.
KRIS: We understand that you have questions. Please feel free.
QUESTION: When I came to see you before, a couple of months ago, you mentioned that I had had two incarnations and the same lousy thing happened to me in both. It was quite traumatic in both, and it made me wonder why do we knowingly go back into a situation ostensibly to learn, but we screw it up and end up psychologically damaged. Why did I have to go back twice? And I have still not gotten over it and it’s been crippling my life all this time. And it sounds like it’s been centuries that this has been going on. Is that the purpose of being reincarnated? We have the opportunity to learn and we don’t?
KRIS: There are many issues with reincarnation that take much more time than we usually have to discuss the subject matter. And most people are accustomed to understanding in terms of chronological order. But do understand that you are not truly bound by any such rule, per se, and though some individuals indeed pick up a topic repeatedly, most individuals try to work to the best of their abilities try to work out an issue so that they can overcome all aspects of it. And it is not that you are bound by what may have occurred in the past, but that you have presently the opportunity and the ability to change the directions of the lessons you have come here to try and learn and to reach beyond previous boundaries.
There are many ways that this can be accomplished. For instance, instead of considering that you might be a victim of old patterns, see yourself instead as having knowledge that you have tried your hand at this in other lifetimes and with that knowledge you can now make sufficient corrections and alterations to your, we will call them blueprint, to your future path without carrying these excess burdens from the past, but that instead in the here and now in the power of the present moment you can determine that there are no situations that can affect you save those you now choose as beneficial and as an enhancement to your present and future existence. Do you understand that?
QUESTION: That doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s all going to be a bed of roses, eh? Are we choosing to have these bad experiences?
KRIS: You do not choose bad experiences, but you may choose difficult challenges sometimes simply because one is tenacious, but sometimes you choose difficult challenges because underneath all of this the lessons are well worth the realization that in spite of all appearances and in spite of all influences from some past or another, the discovery of the power you have in the here and now to change all patterns affecting you can have such an influence that even the past is changed.
QUESTION: So then even though I know I want to change this, why does the ego fight so hard against changing it? It’s so easy to say, ‘I control my thoughts’ but in fact it’s quite a hard thing to do. Or is that part of the challenge of being here?
KRIS: That you have hit on the head. To let go of all ideas and philosophies that one is a victim of events and circumstances and conditions, including one’s environment, is actually quite difficult and it is so because it is actually frightening. Because then you are responsible to yourself.
Think about it for a moment. You cannot blame others. You cannot blame yourself. You determine the outcome of your living conditions by engaging specific thought patterns, and you do that by the recognition that there are no outside agencies or entities that control your destiny in any way shape or form whatsoever. In other words you are solely responsible for your psychological, psychic, emotional and physical well-being.
And you do not need to fear that you have to conquer these lessons overnight. But the simple realization that in spite of all appearances you still determine where your ship goes, in spite of whatever storm may come up that you are the author of your life may also be as scary as it is enticing, and the more you battle yourself and hassle yourself, the more difficult it becomes.
QUESTION: I can imagine sometimes good things, but as one person called it, there seems to be an addiction to negativity and it’s difficult to even begin to imagine something better. It’s like imagining being loved when you have never felt it. It’s difficult.
KRIS: And that particular point is the most pivotal for almost everyone to approach. You are, your entire species is accustomed to thinking that love must have a form, must have an object, and yet your species would be most astounded if it discovered that love is itself and it is worthwhile and valued on its own terms and it does not need a form or an object and it is possible to love and in fact to be in love without being in love with someone else.
QUESTION: So it’s like being inside an ocean without a boat.
KRIS: Indeed. Little do you realize that in those terms you are natural swimmers, and in fact even drowning in that ocean could not be better. Most people have built up defenses because usually in life you love and you get hurt, you love and you are lied to, you love and you are forgotten, you love and they have the nerve to die and on top of this you love and then YOU die. What is all of this worth? Is it worth it?
QUESTION: A lot of the time, no.
KRIS: That only exists in a particular mindset, but if you put on another thinking cap you can have an entirely different experience of reality. And the sooner you begin to object to those traits and so-called negativity, and the sooner you refuse to accept those conditions because you have more loving conditions to occupy your time and your passions, the easier it becomes.
QUESTION: So when two people love each other, what is that really, since love doesn’t need an object? And what is that feeling that they complete one another? Were they empty?
KRIS: It is also a genuine expression of love through form. But in and of itself it is possible to be in that same state without being in love with another, and it is not a hedonistic or narcissistic love. It is indeed a very deep and profound experience to be in love simply because you are yourselves.
QUESTION: So you are talking about being in love with oneself.
KRIS: Not exactly. It still transcends the notion of hedonistic or narcissistic love. IT is actually that state that you come from. You think you come into the world as a result of the union between your parents. That is the appearance of your physical form, but you come from a much greater state of grace where this atmospheric presence or energetic love is what surrounds you and IS you, you are it, and when you take birth generated by the union of your own parents, you are a portion of that grace filled state, that loving state, and you express it through your present development. That is one way that you are always tied in with the greater universal self.
Now when you become consumed with daily concerns, you tend to forget where you come from and what you are made of and you think you are less than worthy individuals. And that is your struggle.
QUESTION: So if parents birth a child and for some reason do not love that child, that doesn’t mean that the child is unlovable become we come from this divine source of love?
KRIS: Indeed.
QUESTION: So to say my father didn’t love me or my mother didn’t love me is just looking at it superficially, right?
KRIS: In so many respects to blame the parents because they did not love me, he didn’t love me, she didn’t love me, they didn’t love me, is still maintaining an excuse from loving yourself in respect to the previous mention of fear, because if you actually felt yourself filled with this love, then what would you have to complain about? Would your existence ever be the same?
You couldn’t complain about your government and whatever lousy Prime Minister you have. You couldn’t complain about Texas. You couldn’t complain about bitchy neighbors. You couldn’t complain about this and that and about this co-worker and that boss.
QUESTION: But then what would we talk about?
KRIS: It does not mean that conversations would be bland and boring or that you would have nothing to talk about. But they would certainly speak about the higher qualities they would find in everyone they meet. They would instill and even passion in those they encounter, maybe without even speaking. They would entice that loving nature to make itself known.
And there are individuals that do this. They are not necessarily all saints. Many a saint has been little more than a crab. Do you understand? Basically being crabby.
QUESTION: Is there a state of grace? My personality is stuck in whatever it’s stuck in. Is there is a state of grace to take me out of it? I’ve had therapists say to me ‘I don’t know if you’ll ever be able to over this in this life.’
KRIS: Then prove them wrong. What is wrong with that? In good old English you can tell anyone to go ‘F’ themselves that would try to convince you that you do not have the intestinal fortitude to go beyond your own limitations. Where is your pattern?
QUESTION: Believe me, I kicked them.
KRIS: Now kick yourself into a state of grace.
QUESTION: I have another thing. I’m trying not to blame my parents but the situation I came into was so devoid, you were talking about the cosmic dance and I chose a family where there is no sound. There is silence. Now what the hell was I thinking of when I was up there floating around to come into this? That I wanted to prove my own intestinal fortitude that much and I forgot that I had?
KRIS: If you were a man we would say your balls.
Now, the point is whether your parents loved you or didn’t love you sufficiently or didn’t do this or didn’t do that, you can keep mulling that over until you are well beyond the grave. Or you can do a bolder thing indeed. Do they have to have loved you for you to love them?
QUESTION: The question is how do you express an experience, what it feels like? It’s like learning a language.
KRIS: That is also psychological jargon. You can reach deep within you….
QUESTION: If I was never taught the language of what a family is, of what love is? Or do we come equipped with that naturally?
KRIS: In the family situation you are taught how to express it within certain boundaries within those lines.
QUESTION: So we need to step outside of those lines.
KRIS: Indeed. You came from outside of those lines. In fact outside of the coloring book entirely.
QUESTION: Well, that’s very encouraging. So when I forget myself I try to stay inside the lines instead of stepping outside, which is natural.
KRIS: You indeed have come to the physical world out of loving intent. You could not be here without loving intent, and this loving intent certainly transcend all psychological definitions which are often very dry and static, even dusty. Love often and actually does not need to be prompted to kick in. It exists.
QUESTION: If I take my fingers out of my ears, yes.
KRIS: Wherever that you direct your love you often feel a fear as the great wall that you sometimes crash into. And it looms for many people. You are not alone. Your culture on the one hand cries peace and love, but you actually do that you are not supposed to. Do you understand?
QUESTION: You are not supposed to express it, you mean?
KRIS: Indeed.
QUESTION: That actually seems more crazy than when I want to give love and people don’t accept it, especially with children.
KRIS: So our challenge to you then oh great passionate dancer is once again two things. One of then is to practice loving something, even if it a tree down the street, a fish in a pond, a little kitten, puppy, or a little bird.
QUESTION: Just to feel that love.
KRIS: Indeed. It is entirely irrelevant to whom. Just send it out..
QUESTION: Not even express it to them.
KRIS: It is not necessary at this point.
Secondly, at another time during the day reflect on whom and what you directed you love and then give it to yourself. And thank yourself for having been both the giver and the receiver of love. Make it a private ritual beyond sanctuary.
QUESTION: (Unable to make out the question.)
KRIS: You basically accepted a bad bill of goods in many of your religions, and it has simply continued into your private lives. Does that sound like a good challenge to you?
QUESTION: Yes. Mission impossible here I go.
KRIS: The more frightening aspect is that this mission actually can be possible.
QUESTION: If I can keep with it beyond two weeks I’ll be doing good, if I can even DO it for two weeks.
KRIS: Do it on a day-to-day basis and then you will see that after a few weeks it actually is a lot easier than you thought. And then trick will be to eventually direct it into areas you think it should not go.
QUESTION: Yes, that is a big challenge.
KRIS: Then you will se your own resistances flair up but also give way, but they must flare up for you to make them give way. That means that you also accept and love yourself regardless if you think that you are being an old crab or not because underneath the surface there is still that divine spark of life, the great lady of passion. Do you understand?
Now you already have a nickname here.
Now what is the time?
(8:50)
Do you have questions?
QUESTION: I have one question concerning something you spoke about earlier in being able to see sounds or hear colors. How could we practice that?
KRIS: Indeed. You could for instance hold an object and try to hear it with your hands. You could try to listen to a painting such as one that has colors and vibrancy. Do you understand? And that moment following it, it too will take you outside of the lines and you may feel some resistances simply because the regular use of the sense says, ‘you can’t do that. You are playing outside the lines.’
QUESTION: Is that like putting my hand above yellow and trying to tell the difference between yellow and green?
KRIS: Indeed. And you can see with your hands, but it takes a little more practice.
QUESTION: Could you do that with your eyes closed?
KRIS: You could try both. See which one works better for you. The idea is to experiment and there is no right or wrong. Someone may feel the color red entirely differently than you do, and that is all right. Does that help you?
Indeed. Then we will take our leave of your most passionate and inquisitive selves. And my you have indeed a grace filled and blessed week.
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