Molly Jr. Dream

March 24, 2003

Sunday, August 24/03 AM dreams:Since there is a fair bit of mention about dreams, I thought I’d share on from when I woke up this. I actually pulled myself out of the dream due to its intense emotional coating.

I found myself to be ‘me’ in the dream, but with a bit of a difference and have not identified that difference yet. Also, the time period was different. It appeared to still be Toronto, but from the early to mid 1930′s and I was at Union Station, Toronto’s version of Grand Central from New York.

There, I met a young man, perhaps himself late 20′s to early 30′s, and followed him to his apartment where I was to meet his wife. It looked like she (and possibly both of them were Irish) and she was pregnant, perhaps even near term.

I was talking to them both, and the purpose of my meeting them was strange, though I don’t understand ‘strange” in some way. I do channel – for 23 years now – but in the dream I was putting my hand on the wife’s abdomen, feeling for the baby and giving them a psychic reading???

I was telling them that the little girl would have the same fiery red hair as her mother, and the girl was called Molly Jr. (that was sort of weird as it’s mostly a boy’s name – and the baby was quite insistent that this was its name).

It was extremely intense because I was telling them that she would only live so long, she would have to other children, one possibly a boy who would later also die. We were all deeply in tears, as if I was come to announce that a loved one had died already. It was as if I had known all these people a long time, especially the unborn children.

The tears were streaming down all our faces and we were grieving heavily.

What was even more bizarre in a way is that in many such instances the ‘psychic’ would likely be thrown out as nothing but the bearer of bad news, trying to impress somehow. But no they, we all could actually see the development of her children (as if we collectively could tune into the reading together), the deaths of her first and last, and so on. It was complete immersion in the powerful emotional elements of the dream… I eventually made some semi-conscious decision to extract my “I” focus from the dream. Seems my inner self perhaps was concerned for the way this would impact me?

All in all, a deep and even cleansing dream. I know that it involved reincarnational elements. I also wonder if perhaps these reincarnational elements were part of other aspects of my entity, in terms of not directly aspects of the me self here, but still related?

Could it be that when I sleep a portion of me actually does some psychic and healing work with other expressions of my Source?

Interesting musings.. again.. )

Just thought I’d share that.

Added next day August 25, /03

As I put my head on my pillow last night, not quite sleepy enough to drift off right away, I was almost immediately swept up into that Molly Junior dream again, but from another perspective yet.

There are a few things going on here too. I will try to explain and hopefully it will make sense, ’cause it can get deep and there are more layers of activity involved, as I found out last night.

As I was laying down and telling Mark about writing the original dream and finding little additional material pop in, lots more of the same happened. I realized last night that as I had my hand on the mother’s abdomen, I was not so much giving her a psychic reading as we were all three living the potential of the child still in the womb.

It was much more like I was the catalyst to help the mother experience the possible development or potentials this child was planning. We were not just ‘seeing’, but fully participating in the future development of the child in a deep manner, obviously making use of inner senses, involving full emotional impact.

It got very intense when we realized the child had planned a short stint into physical existence this time around. Molly Jr. would only be around in form for a few years. Her death at such a young age would be very difficult for the mother and father, but especially for the mother to deal with, never mind mom dealing with the death of another child, her third. The second one would survive and grow to adulthood.

But there is more. Originally, I could see that I was myself but with some differences I could not originally identify. The difference is that other aspects of my Self were present, sort of giving me the impression that I was still me, but not quite me at the same time, a bizarre feeling.

A slight digression here: shortly after I met Mark in late September 2001, my trance source Kris had mentioned to him that one day he’d expand on something he called the “Nine Sisters”, something about the way his and my psychic energies can work together, and though not unique to us alone, it would present a new development in our abilities and awareness.

From what I understand so far, the “Nine Sisters” are definite aspects of the Self’s energies that are not usually brought into play, a part of our human psychic heritage.

How does this get in the picture, especially via a dream? Well as I was in that semi-aware comfort zone last night suddenly experiencing some of the inner dimensions of the Molly Jr. dream, I was aware of some of the “Sisters” or at least one of them. Suddenly a whole new vista opened up, like a door opening up where you thought there was none, but more than opening up onto say a closet or just a room, but onto a whole inner psychological landscape. Its scope was larger than I could take in all at once, so I know more will come to complete the vision in time, like I am getting it piece by piece or in digestible spoonfuls.

This Molly dream served several purposes, like a “gateway dream”, having inner dimensions one can barely imagine.

So here I am in bed, suddenly swept away into the dream and going further while still conscious and aware I am straddling physical and inner reality at once. Talk about being in two places at once!

Well, suddenly I get from Kris a download of information, more like a mini avalanche really, and I have to try to capture it all. So, I get that the dream had a footprint from the Sisters, or at least a flavor, interacting with me, thus I was not quite as I am in the dream, still touching into a reincarnational lifetime.

It was also used to gently awaken my awareness of deeper aspects of my inner self from the focus personality perspective. And that triggered more info and expansion.

Then, as he often does, Kris literally rifles through my own consciousness and picks out imagery and scenes to convey concepts in a fashion I can then unravel. He shows me a HUGE chess board, but not just any. More like he picks my memory and shows me the Wizard Chess Board found in the first Harry Potter movie near the end, with those gigantic pieces that are almost alive.

Then he helps me see that these Sisters/energies, like the chess pieces, are not only alive-energy, but also very practical and can be configured, in a way chess pieces can move, but not restricted in the way chess pieces are allowed to move, more freedom.

They create a sort of psychic ‘clan’ (more than just a family), moving and reconfiguring themselves in any way needed for various functions or purposes. Usually a family consists of immediate members, then satellite members (uncle, aunts, nephews and nieces), grandparents and a few slightly more distant relations.

Here I was shown that these living energies are more a ‘clan’, regardless how far away some are, what part of the world they are to be found in. They are always in communication, always ready to group and help and organize and support, regardless how distant the relation is, even the most remote cousin once twice or thrice or more removed. And regardless what the task is, anyone or any several of them will take the challenge and come forward.

In this vision thing, I was also reminded that I had had an experience with two of the Nine Sisters many years ago, but forgot about it. Last night I felt these two are called Balance and Harmony, though they might not always work in pairs, or in the same fashion.

Kris showed me also that though there are Nine, they often work in pairs, whether there are two or three, organizing in ways difficult to explain, not in the usually numerically correct ‘pairs’ (not sure what that means yet). There could be pairs of three four or whatever.

The dream was also instrumental in providing a rich deep and grounding or cleansing of powerful emotions, in almost the same way deep crying may provide, though I only experienced the crying in the dream. Often I would wake up crying, but not this time, though it was nearly so. Definite elements of Balance and Harmony involved in both the Molly Jr. dream and this night’s vision visit.

New note added on March 18, 2004 – 9:00 PM:

The very next opportunity we had for a session with Kris was on September 15, 2003. It’s here where he starts to present information on what he calls the 9 Sisters. The Molly Jr. dream was in preparation to this change in the delivery and the material. It helped prepare me at other levels for the new information and lay some sort of foundation.

I had also completely forgotten about this dream, but now recalled it in reviewing Kris’ material concerning the 9 Sisters so we can post it on the website, as well as going over some notes for the last session regarding the 9 Families of Consciousness and the Clans. Already it’s easy to see that Kris works in interesting ways, helping lay down foundations and seeds of concepts, sometimes days, sometimes even months ahead. In the case of the 9 Sisters, even many years ahead.

Here is what happened I’d have to say back in 1981 or 82, even before I ever spoke for Kris, doing instead the Edgar Cayce style of trance (sleeping trance):

It was very early one morning (indecently early if you ask me), much to early to get up though the sun started to rise. However, somehow I didn’t want to just roll over and sleep deeply again, so I decided to go to the living room and lay down on the love seat and catch a few winks (ok, lots of them). I laid out on it, but a love seat is much shorter than a full couch, so with my head elevated at one end, my feet still stuck out the other end.

I quickly dozed off into that sweet semi-awake-asleep state and suddenly became conscious that in this state there were two being one at my head the other at my feet. They booth looked like those ancient Greek columns carved into the shape of Greek women, with the pleated dress and the high curled hair. Suddenly they together plunged each their two hand into my body at either end and pulled out what looked like a large bed sheet.

And just like someone would take a wrinkled bed sheet and stretch and pull and shake it out to remove wrinkles and even get rid of crumbs or something, they shook and stretched this thing they pulled out of me. I was not in the least bit alarmed, recognizing that this was occurring at another level of reality and there really was not any danger whatsoever. When they were done, they simply plunged their hands, with this ‘sheet’ back into my body and suddenly I woke up, more like coming out of a trance. I felt absolutely marvelous, and also saw that maybe 15 or 20 minutes had passed even though I was sure this only occurred in a few moments.

According to Kris, this was my first semi-conscious encounter with 2 of the 9 sisters, Balance and Harmony. I would have to surmise then that their interaction in this way with me so far back was to actualize some sort of Balance and Harmony in my life at that time, and if memory serves me, I think I did need some of their magic back then.

Serge J Grandbois

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Abraham Study Group in Toronto

March 18, 2003

Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois
Transcribed by Marcy Singer (Arindel)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on March 18, 2003
© Copyright 2004 Avion Rising Inc.

Recorded at an Abraham ‘Deliberate Creation’ study group in Toronto.

Roll call: Serge (Joseph), Mark (Philip), 28 other individuals in attendance.

KRIS: We thank each and every one of you for having taken the time to come here and share in this experience, as well as experiment.

Now the topic is Reality Creation, and this is a wide-ranging issue reaching into all aspects of your human existence. And though the topic may be somewhat esoteric to some, it is a subject matter that you are unable to avoid regardless of your views or perspectives or beliefs in the matter. And one of the first things you should be asking in any investigation of this nature is what is reality?

Such a question should never be taken for granted, neither should any assumptions about reality be taken for granted. For reality is a highly individualized experience, and though each of you participate in a consensus experience of reality, you still have your own personal and quite unique perspective on what it is and is not.

It becomes important to ask this question in depth, especially if you wish to understand how reality is created or constructed and where is it constructed or created from. Where does it originate? How is it manufactured, manifested? What is its purpose?

If we asked one of you what reality is, how would you answer?

PARTICIPANT: One definition I’ve heard is that reality is that part of the imagination that most people agree upon.

KRIS: Indeed. That is definitely part of the answer. Does anyone else wish to offer an interpretation or a definition of reality?

PARTICIPANT: How about consciousness and energy is actually reality?

KRIS: That is also a good answer and part of the overall view.

PARTICIPANT: A projection of my thoughts? My mind being the projector?

KRIS: Indeed. Someone else wish to offer one or two grains of thought?

PARTICIPANT: What is happening right this second, which is always changing?

KRIS: Indeed. Now what if you consider the following question: What is reality NOT?

PARTICIPANT: Generally what we cannot perceive with our physical senses.

KRIS: Others?

PARTICIPANT: I would say what reality is NOT is what is outside people’s personal beliefs.

KRIS: Anyone else?

PARTICIPANT: What doesn’t exist yet.

KRIS: Perhaps we can synthesize for you. We are taking our own liberties here.

As you understand reality in its conventional terms, it is that place where you find yourselves entranced in bodily experiences. It is that part of your existence where from moment to moment your thoughts are projected outwards and interpreted by your senses to give you feedback about the nature or concerning the nature of the events that occur within you.

For the most part it is accepted that physical reality is a solid rock bed creation. It is that place where time and space intersect, where you have your daily living. It is the world that is related to the senses. Do you follow? Does that make sense to you?

That is the generally recognized view as it is understood by most of your sciences and the general portion of the population.

There is still another perspective that is not often considered by the general population, but it is an area that you are starting to explore, that you are striving to understand and make sense of. And that is that the entire scope of the reality experience has its source within your own being. In other words there are parts of yourself that you may not fully understand but within which the physical world takes its birth, the world of your thoughts, your imagination, your feelings, your attitudes, expectations and beliefs: the psychological world within which you truly have your existence.

And from that world the physical experience takes its shape, takes its birth and is manifested from. And from within that part of yourself you may refer to it as the unconscious, subconscious, imagination, and so many other labels, from that place within you somehow or other your thoughts are projected and made manifest so that you may interact and experience them in 3-dimensional manifestations. Does that also make sense to you?

Now since your physical experience actually has its birth in another realm, the realm of thoughts and imagination, it certainly sounds like an excellent place to do some experimentation, to set about those conditions that will be made manifest in an advantageous way for yourselves and your fellow co-creators. And this process that you have begun to explore, the process of conscious, loving and mindful co-creation, is truly your next evolutionary stage. And that also means that you must become aware of this deeper or lesser known dimension within you, the realms of the imagination, the realms of the unconscious, for you are certainly more than the thoughts that you entertain at the conscious level.

So it is our hope that the brief time we share with you this evening will assist you in tapping into that vest reservoir of abilities and talents that are innate to your own nature and perhaps prompt you to use those tools to enhance the daily moments of your lives.

So before we proceed, do you have any questions along those lines?

QUESTION: You may cover this later, but the tendency right now for me to use my imagination is mostly for fear and doubt, that’s my initial reaction to use my imagination for?

KRIS: It is not premature at all for it is something that is very common to most people, considering what you have been told about the imagination. Do you follow?

(Yes)

Indeed. So we will delve more deeply into that as the evening unfolds. Are there other questions?

QUESTION: Are you going to teach us how to manipulate reality this evening?

KRIS: At least within certain boundaries.

QUESTION: Will you be talking about how conscious, subconscious and unconscious tools might be used?

KRIS: We will try and give you a much clearer definition of what the unconscious is and is not as we have tried to give you a better understanding of what reality is and is not, and we will return to that in a moment.

QUESTION: Are you going to explain the difference between the subconscious and the unconscious? Or is there is difference?

KRIS: Keep that question in mind please. Any other questions?

QUESTION: What would be the first step in going in that direction for a person who feels bombarded? It seems like it would take a lifetime to get to that level. What would be the first step in that direction? Meditation, for example?

KRIS: This is an excellent premise – learning to relax, calm and clear the mind so that you can identify what it is that you are telling yourself on a continual basis. Now there are many different types of meditations, many different schools of thought. To make this issue very clear, you can easily be mystified with the connotations attached to the word ‘meditation’. If you understand that meditation also means ‘focus’ or the act of focusing that will give you an advantage and a better working tool. Does that make sense to you?

(Yes)

Now as we suggested earlier, consensus reality is one thing and it is the by-product of a realm far more diverse, far more flexible and much richer in experiences than the consensus reality seems to allow you. And it is by learning to listen to what is being said in your own mind is a most important step. And it is a process that is rather simple in learning to calm your mind so that you can identify the conversations that you hold on an almost continual basis whether you are awake or asleep.

Many people assume that, for instance, their beliefs are what they hold in terms of religious interpretations. But we would suggest strongly that your beliefs or your expectations are those strong thoughts filled with a deep emotional charge where you store particular views about yourself, your family, your community perhaps, your government, other individuals or even the world in general. And learning to listen to the conversations you hold with yourself, which many people are oblivious to, you can learn a great deal about what it is that you do during the day that programs your behavior and the experiences of life. By identifying those inner conversations, those streams of thoughts that you generate, you will also learn to identify to a great degree the resultant events and conditions of your lives.

Lest we be labeled as speaking too much in general terms, we can be very specific. Some people like to think of themselves as ineffective, unable to truly make any changes in their lives. The rules and the laws in society are too difficult to deal with. People they meet tend to end up as being untrustworthy. My parents did not love me. My family cares little for whom and what I am. My lovers never cared for whom and what I am. I get up in the morning; go to my small or even stinking job. Woe is me. I am poor. I am unhealthy.

Now many of these people like to think of themselves as happy go lucky and give the presentation of being somewhat Irish and will never pay attention to those thoughts or conversations they hold during their day and their sleep and wonder why with their best faces on they still encounter adversity on a daily basis. They are continuously struggling with money issues; continuously struggling with health issues, relationship issues, and so on and so forth. And they insist they are being positive about life. They insist they are being positive about the apparent fact that they are ill. They are being positive about the apparent fact that they are poor. They are being positive about the apparent fact that relationships crumble around them. But [they] are [often] unwilling to look into the very cause of their dilemmas. Do you follow?

(Yes)

We hope such examples have been clear enough.

Now it is within the realm of each and every one of you to change any of the conditions of your present experience, and that is why most of you come to such groups. You have an intuitive understanding that traditional methods of keeping a positive face in light of all comprehensible advantages is the way to go and you do not buy that. Most of you are sincerely seeking answers to life’s biggest questions. How do I change my life? And some of you will even pay big bucks to learn eventually that the guru does not help you except drain your bank account.

Your religions seem to offer you pat answers, if they even make an attempt. Your friends and relatives shun you because you wish to change the status quo. And at times you fall into despair because it seems you do not know where to turn to find the tools. And you have read and heard that somehow the tools might be within you. So, short of going to the surgeon to open you up and look for tools, you somehow or other have become convinced that there are ways to learn how to use innate psychological tools.

You have read and heard of such disembodied intelligences like Seth and Abraham and Bashar and Ra and many others. And you believe that they can give you some of the answers that you seek. But many of you still wish that these disembodied intelligences would do it for you, and fortunately we have the perfect excuse. We do not have bodies, so we cannot do it for you. But we will make a serious attempt to lay out a most sumptuous buffet before your very eyes so that you can then feast and thus learn to use those tools yourselves so that your own lives may change.

And still many of you believe that it works for her, it works for him, but it will not work for me. As soon as you can get over that hurdle you will see magnificent changes as long as you are willing to make compromise, and that is a trade off. If you learn of these things, then you should use them. That means that you should be ready for change. If you ask the universe to help you change [certain] aspects of your lives, do not think that the universe will think ‘Ha, Mary Jane is only kidding”: for the universe will call your bluff and it will visit those changes in your lives.

Then herein is the difficulty: when the changes come, what do you do? You fight, you set up resistances and you run under the bed! Did you not think that the changes would occur? They do occur because those changes come from within your source. In fact, your attempts to learn how to be a creator should be reworded because you already are. What you are attempting to do is to become a more conscious and thoughtful and loving co-creator.

You already create, but most of you create by default. You create what you do not want because that is what you concentrate upon. “I do not want a relationship that will hurt me.” “I do not want to be poor.” And some of you may even think you do not want too much joy and happiness because you do not know when it will bottom out. Is that not correct? (Yes).

We are glad that you can recognize yourselves a little bit. The nature of that power to change your lives is not something so foreign that it cannot be used. It is not something esoteric or even erotic, it is a powerful force that you have full and complete control of, and only you determine what its outcome will be. And what we have jokingly pointed out earlier, most of you end up with what you do not want because that is what you concentrate upon. You sometimes think, “I do not want my partner or husband or wife to leave me.” Because that is all of what you visualize. Do you follow?

So now, how do you get to the nitty-gritty? That we will explore after a brief break.

BREAK

KRIS: Now that you are all back we would like to try an experiment with you and we will make it simple. Many of you learn about reality creation, deliberate creation, mindful, thoughtful creation, and immediately you wish to transform your one bedroom bungalow unto a 50-room mansion. And then you get frustrated because you can only manage an extra bedroom. Now if you would keep things simple to begin with you will have far more success than trying to immediately change the whole world to meet your expectations of how reality should be.

Now we will play a game, The Creation Game. The idea is this. One half of this room will focus upon an particular issue, and the other half on another issue, and after a few moments you will each side come out of that issue to then switch sides. Now this is tricky. We did say simple, but we also mean tricky.

The idea is this. That this one side of the room will focus very strongly upon creating the most miserable, despairing set of thoughts that they can possibly produce, and the other side will concentrate upon producing the liveliest most enlightening and joyous set of thoughts that they can muster up. And during this time we ask each one of you on both sides to pay attention to both the thoughts you will dredge up as well as the state of your body, what is your physical body experiencing during that process. And you will observe your body in its various states and feelings during those few moments.

Now this needs one understanding, that you are not your feelings, you are not your emotions, and since you still generate random levels of thoughts on a daily basis in both fields, we are hoping to assist you to better grasp the process involved, how it affects your body, and how to quickly divert, change, alter, stop, modify any sets of thoughts you catch yourself creating when they are not to your advantage. So whether you create on this side the most awful things you can think of, do it as in a laboratory experiment. No one will be harmed and no thoughts will be harmed during the process!

The purpose of the experiment will prove potent and powerful for each and every one of you because it will be real. This is not wishful thinking. This is giving you the opportunity to test the process of creation firsthand. You do not have to go home and wonder exactly how to interpret what was said. You will have definite interpretation here and now. Are you all in agreement?

Indeed. So we suggest that you start now. You may all sides close your eyes and we will close ours as well lest you think we are looking at any one of you. And those on this side of the room, dig deep in your being. Bring up those issues you find distasteful. Bring up those issues that may even cause you a mild mental or emotional discomfort, knowing full well that in a moment you will experience how to dissolve such processes. Allow yourselves to sink into the feelings, and in doing so pay attention to your body. How is it breathing differently? Are your shoulders sinking? And so on and so forth.

And the other side of the room will now also begin to dig deep into themselves. Each one of you latch onto those thoughts, those memories, those feelings that make you feel like kicking up your heels, that bring a light and a joy and a bounce in your step each and every second that you are focusing upon those thoughts. And you also pay attention and observe how your bodies are reacting. What are your shoulders doing? What is your heart rate doing? How does your mind even feel? Get to know exactly how all parts of your body are reacting to whatever set of thoughts you are deliberately generating right now.

Now both sides take one deep breath and immediately come out of that state to be back in this room, free of all thoughts, clear of mind.

Now everyone knows exactly how you reacted to your own thoughts. Therefore we are going to ask everyone to switch sides physically. Everyone on this side get up and sit there and vice versa.

Now that you are comfortable we will ask each side to go within and everyone on this side of the room will start focusing on the most despairing and dastardly thought they can dredge up and pay attention to their bodies, their heart rate, their breathing, how their muscles are reacting. And everyone on the other side of the room will latch on and bring up all of those thoughts and feelings that uplift them, that bring them boundless joy and light and peace and also pay attention to your heart rate, to your breathing, to your shoulders, to your backs, to the muscles in your body.

Now everyone take a deep breath and snap out of your state. And for one moment everyone return to the state of joy that you have created overriding and overlapping anything else, that only joy be what remains within you on all sides of the room. Connect yourselves now back to that state of joy so that there is a union, a joyous union here of light and peace that will follow you into your sleep tonight, into your day and weeks and months to come.

Now do you wish to stay where you are or do you wish to return to your original chairs?

(Stay where we are.)

Now perhaps someone may describe in their own words what each experiment felt like.

PARTICIPANT: Well, to begin with, heaviness versus lightness in the body and in the mind. It was very obvious which the heavy was and which was the light [state].

KRIS: It is as if on the one hand you are being disconnected and on the other you are being reconnected. Correct?

PARTICIPANT: Yes, but what’s interesting is that no matter which place you are in, the dark side or the light side, you want to stay there for some reason. It’s like when you’re pissed off and you don’t want someone to tell you a joke and make you laugh. You just want to stay pissed off and stay there and be left alone. The same happens on the joy side, you just want to keep going.

KRIS: Why do you think that is?

PARTICIPANT: Status quo? Focus? Fear of change?

KRIS: Each one answer is good, but it’s mainly that whatever the self, whether conscious or unconscious self, focuses upon, it attaches or acquires a portion of its own, which is one of the reason that some people are often unable to shake off certain illnesses whether physical or psychological because the self is woe to let the change occur, thinking a part of itself may be cut off. Thus with such a simple perception, it might prove to be advantageous to attach to the self states of joy and peace and build upon such a foundation.

Any other observations?

PARTICIPANT: When I was in the pleasant state I was completely relaxed, and then at certain points when I was in the not so pleasant state my heart rate did increase, although it did go back down again.

PARTICIPANT: When I was in the negative place I was focusing on one or two really bad things and I wanted to stay there, but on the joyous side it kept multiplying, great things, better, more, keep on going, you vibrate faster. In the negative place it slowed down.

KRIS: Indeed because when you put yourselves in a place of despair or in some of your terms, a vibration of despair, you actually cut yourselves off from a free flowing natural state of energy, of consciousness. The flow of consciousness is hampered, blocked and you stay in a state of self-pity when you are reluctant to release your fears.

But when you move into a place of joy and loving abandon, you automatically once again permit a free flowing exchange of consciousness, which is the true source of life. The other aspect, the state of despair or darkness, does not feed you but causes you to hunger. And when you hunger in that state you only feed on similar states. If you reverse that state you will feed but you will feed on life giving energies. Do you follow?

(Yes)

Any other questions or observations?

PARTICIPANT: I found it difficult to go to the dark part. I had such an enjoyable time in the light part. I had to really coach myself and remind myself of the grumpy, angry parts of me. I’m not sure that is normal because I was on a higher plane it was difficult to switch to a lower plane. The experience wasn’t as intense. It was difficult to go into the deepest, darkest part of myself.

KRIS: It is all right. We left that part open so that it would be acceptable to each and every one of you, and indeed for all of you there was difficulty to consciously create a state of despair. Was it not? You had to struggle with it.

Now imagine when you give the orders for your own conscious mind to deliberately dig its heels in and block the flow of consciousness because you might be in a pissed off mood, how much reluctance is expressed and how much you fear being cut off from the flow of life. And how much easier it was for each and very one of you to naturally glide into those states where joy is created consciously.

Now which one would you choose on a daily basis? Would you allow yourselves now to deliberately stay in a state of remorse and despair, hatefulness, grudge, so on and so forth, knowing that it starves you for what is naturally yours? We believe that each and every one of you would rather effortlessly glide into joy and fulfilling states. Correct? You do not seem too certain.

(Yes!)

KRIS: Good. Now what is the time?

MARK: 8:45.

KRIS: Are there questions?

PARTICIPANT: Is there a difference between the subconscious and unconscious mind?

KRIS: Conscious, unconscious, subconscious and so many other terms. These are definitions for your own references. Other than that what you consider the unconscious or subconscious mind is actually more conscious than your most conscious thoughts. So it is that area that consciousness that you are not focusing upon at that moment. Your conscious experience is that place of consciousness you are focusing upon at that moment. Does that make sense to you?

(Yes)

As an example, if you are in a room without lights on, let’s say the power goes out and you have your flashlight and you point your flashlight in a direction so that the beam of light illuminates that particular area of the room, you could say that where the beam of light hits the wall or the objects is your conscious experience. Everything else in the whole still exists, but it is not lit at that time. Do you understand?

So you know that the entire room has not disappeared. You know it still exists, but you are not focused upon that segment at that time. That is what could be said to be the difference between the conscious and the unconscious or subconscious mind. You are not focused there. And many of you are truly uncomfortable shining the light in all areas of the room at once, in those terms, because of what you have been told about the so-called unconscious from your scientific quarters.

Drive Thru Enlightenment

March 10, 2003

Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois
Transcribed by Ellen Gilbert (Kwaa’Ji)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on Monday, March 10, 2003
© Copyright 2006 Avion Rising Inc.

(Session begins)

KRIS: Welcome old friends, new friends, and very old friends. We hope that you are all comfortable. Your preliminary discussion leads to the need for some IMPORTANT and basic understandings. It is often customary to want spiritual understanding and enlightenment almost in the same manner that you habitually consume products and services in your modern society.

Since you are a consumer-driven culture, it is often very difficult to grasp the underlying intent and meanings behind words and concepts, simply because you have been trained from early on to believe that every thing must be customized for you and that all of what you need to truly understand a thing or a concept is to read a few key lines of sentences and off you go expecting that this is sufficient.

You believe for instance, that you may have a Higher Self (pause) and the same HABITS ingrained within you by your religious institutions — many of which you have shunned by now — many of those habits developed in that environment, are easily transferred over because it may be the only point of reference that you have in dealing with concepts of the larger definition of the self or what you call “Divinity.”

Thus, some people go through such processes, busy with their everyday lives, tagging onto the new concepts all of the old habits and then struggling and wondering why these new concepts and understandings do not bear any fruit. “Why do these new techniques, why do these meditations not work for me?” is and often-asked question.

And unfortunately, though the answer may not be as pleasant, it is rather simple because the tendency is to transfer all of the old hindrances and negative habits into the new concepts thereby eliminating the need to truly understand what is involved and reducing to a great degree the effectiveness of the new pet psychology of the moment.

It is our understanding that rather difficult as it may seem, you truly have WONDROUS potentials within each and every one of you, but potential is often masked or hidden behind what you think is your immediate need or desire of the moment, without truly tapping deeper into yourselves for the rich veins of knowledge and wisdom that truly exists within what you call your Being. You believe overall that there may be more to you — each and every one of you — than you may perceive or sense at any given time. You may not yet understand the depth of what you sense nor its impact if you were to truly delve into it.

Perhaps this evening we might be able to help you dig a little deeper and perhaps by the time that you leave, you will be thoroughly confused (chuckling from group) and more than willing thereby to search and welcome the answers that can only come from deeper within your own being.

The first type necessary for you is an understanding that you truly are more than what your senses perceive. Then you may say, “If I am truly more than what I see when I pluck my eyebrows or shave in the morning, what else can I be?” You are definitely aware that you have a physical body, and that within that physical body you experience various states of emotion and feeling forms, and furthermore, that you engage sometimes in a multitude of conversations that you are very aware are going on at any time. All of which exert a certain influence upon your relationship with your body, and at the same time — can’t you understand that you are not your physical body, but that you are somehow much more than this collection of bones, and veins and blood and brain?

This may then lead you to the following: that since you are more than your physical body, your definitions of selfhood may not suffice. Your syntax, your dictionaries, your languages may not have the proper definitions at those levels. So you may search other alternative philosophies, thought processes, and in your search you may discover that in spite of all of these definitions none may truly suffice, at least not in this present time. So you have to come to terms with [the fact] that you are so much more, that it cannot adequately be defined and this self that you may think has at its disposal talents and abilities yet to be examined in all of its ramifications by you, since it may be new territory for you.

If you examine clearly your thought processes, you will see that – unlike many philosophies that subscribe to the notion that you must abandon all sense of ego, that you must abandon all critical thinking processes, that you must abandon rational, intellectual perceptions of the world – and that instead you must replace all of these by your feelings… (Pause)… and you will see on your own that these views are often very lopsided. There are equations missing, so that the end product itself will be most unstable, because you have sufficient tools within the structure of the psychological convention of the ego as well as the rational and intellectual aspects of your minds.

But given half a chance, these aspects of your persona can truly be formidable stepping stones or gateways to a much richer matrix of characteristics than you ever thought possible for your own living experience.

We have suggested several Mondays back that you have at your disposal a tremendous array of tools and resources and though we gave small descriptions we have not delved too deeply into the process.

Now it is our perception and understanding that since you are more than the selves that are sitting in those chairs at this very moment, since the personalities that you think you are now are but one fragment of many other personalities, it would mean on the one hand that you would also have many more intelligences. The term “intelligence” as you utilize it in your everyday lives does not take into account anything other than the intellect and the rational faculties you have developed in this lifetime. And because of a certain understanding, your egos tend to limit information and knowledge to those known parameters only within the confines of what it [the ego] thinks is supposed to be valid.

We have also mentioned that you are multidimensional selves; meaning that you can be, and you are, in many dimensions at once. That one physical body that you have now, the one personality that you are expressing now, are but a fraction, mere… (Pause)… bits and bytes of information infinitely more complex and varied than what you assume at this time. That you have, through the auspices of the so-called “higher self” or “inner self” a number of other lives that you can call “reincarnational lives”, that you CAN also find yourselves in other times and places, historical or otherwise, though you might not be consciously aware of these beings.

Through the wonderful auspices of this “higher” or “inner” self you can have access to all of the other intelligences — rational and intellectual minds — that you have cultivated in all of these other lives. That indeed you are NOT limited to the factors that you know existed before you, but exist on all different types of levels.

Thus, through the auspices of this inner self — sometimes that you call the unconscious or the subconscious — you can tap into vast banks of knowledge and accumulated wisdom from many ages of lifetimes. And this knowledge you [still] benefit from marginally when you literally force yourselves to NOT see it.

But — WHEN you change the equation, WHEN you dig in, cultivating an awareness of a greater or larger definition of yourselves — it becomes much easier and extremely rewarding to start tapping into this larger body of wisdom and knowledge that may be spread through many lifetimes altogether.

Think of it in this way: before networks were commonplace, a computer was a fascinating tool, but it only went so far. When networks were put in place, then the one computer station could go well beyond its previous capability and actually take advantage of the multitudes of resources provided by the entire network of computers. Do you understand?

Now you have the internet, which has increased your computer’s capabilities a thousand-fold from when they originally came out in the early ’80′s. And there will be in time further developments which will actually extend the processing power itself through entire networks so that the processing power of one computer is not restrained to its C.P.U., but will actually be spread over an entire network, thereby increasing each computer’s capabilities to a tremendous level.

And to transfer that analogy, though a bit crude, to the capabilities that exist within the unconscious or inner self, you tap into a variety of other lives and their collective intelligences, giving you tremendous leverage in understanding your place within the world and never having to feel as if you are cut off from the rest of existence because your intelligence factor is FAR HIGHER than any of you suspect!

But you do not see, because you are accustomed to thinking that your intelligence, your intellectual capacities, your rational perceptions, even your emotional, imaginative capabilities are all limited by the parameters of your present existence.

You may chuckle, or even laugh when you hear that a mere 500 years ago people still believed that the Earth was flat and if you traveled too close to its edges, you would fall off the Earth. You even find it humorous that people actually believed such a silly thing, but in those days those beliefs were very serious indeed.

And in so many words, the way many people utilize their intelligence is very much like those who believed that if they traveled too close to the edge of the world, they would fall off. Many of you still believe that if you travel too close to the edges of your present intelligence, you will lose yourselves; you will fall off the edge of your rational minds! And that experience itself couldn’t be further from the truth.

You have so much more at your disposal, and it is not the hardest, laborious process to tap into. Those banks of knowledge and wisdom available to each of you, but it does need that you pay attention. It needs that you open your mind to all of the possibilities. And many people the idea of opening the mind is similar to navigating too close to the edge of the world, thinking that minds must have strict boundaries. It MUST be controlled by ethics and values and morals and the reins must be tightly held at all times.

So our idea behind this presentation to you is to help you open up that mind and consider the possibilities that you have within you, a system whereby information, wisdom and knowledge is exchanged, perhaps in a manner similar to how you exchange information files and downloads over the internet, but in a much more sophisticated level. In a way this information that you exchange in downloads and sometimes uploads, is actually a LIFE FORCE, a LIVING intelligence, LIVING knowledge.

Unlike your internet, where much of the information is sometimes quite useless, this information has the potential of changing the individual, of helping you modify and even expand your comprehension of what reality is all about and whom you are within said reality.

Now, all that said and done, we will give you a small break for now. Hopefully you will take advantage of it and when we will return perhaps we will guide you in a meditation to begin tapping into this BIG information in the sky! (Group laughter)

So do enjoy your break.

(Break starts)

[MARK’S NOTES: During break we talked about different things, one of which was the Power of Prayer. There have been some extensive studies done on this topic, all of which validate that prayers DO work.]

(Session Resumes)

KRIS: In there you have one of the main reasons why religious bodies and orthodox teachings have developed themselves sometimes from merely small groups to some of the larger religious institutions that you have in your world presently. [It is] because they have recognized this principle that you just spoke of.

Thus it is to their benefit to indoctrinate the individual and then harness the believing power from dozens, or hundreds, or thousands, or hundreds of thousands, and MILLIONS of minds, all of which are trained in a particular direction, thus harvesting the products of hundreds of millions of minds, focused in one direction. Do you understand?

FEMALE: Yes.

And the key to understanding this is NOT that the deities of one group are more valid or real, and those of another less or unreal, but that instead, with the minds that are harnessed are focused with one intent. THAT is where the real power lies. As to all of the superficiality that has to deal with the flotsam of religiosity — this is all meant to harness the minds of the very religious. Do you follow?

MALE: Yes.

KRIS: Does that make some sense to you all as well?

OTHERS: Yes.

KRIS: So indeed, the power of prayer, the power of concentration, the power of focusing has demonstrated itself time and again. And even now as we speak this moment, it is active all over the globe. Now you have warmongers harnessing the powers of many minds, bringing THEM online, or at least attempting to. Do you also understand?

GROUP: Mmhmm, yes.

KRIS: Thus, by opting out of the status quo, many people find themselves temporarily disoriented because they have to redefine for themselves now, their sense of self. They have sidestepped out of the collective and into the singular, rediscovering themselves, their world and their universe on completely different terms.

And that is why eventually all of the standard approaches to religiosity as you know them will eventually fail, because they are harnessing all of this mental grid-work for power, but for THEIR own purposes, which are usually based upon greed, avarice, and so on and so forth. They are not directed to the development, the enhancement and the betterment of the individual, but of the group that controls the individual.

Thus all such processes will eventually fail because you have an innate sense of yourselves. You have an innate THRUST, impulse or drive towards goodness, towards acts of loving and compassion towards yourself and others.

And when all of these innate blueprints are super-imposed with other notions eventually there is a sense of hollowness, a sense of emptiness because you are beings separated from your own Source Selves.

So when you begin the trek back home, so to speak, to the original source of your power, your Being, we understand it might even be frightening at times because it is unfamiliar, but, as soon as the sense of unfamiliarity dissipates, as soon as the fog lifts from your consciousness and you see the light that you are, you are no longer afraid of love, goodness and compassion — then all other definitions of yourself fall by the wayside like so much dead skin, in the same way that a snake leaves behind his skin that is too small.

That is one of the many reasons why many of the ancient Earth religions and cults revered the serpent, because they saw within it the never-ending cycle of growth, death and rebirth. They saw that it mimicked in a way, the cycles of the evolution of the individual.

As the individual grows, he sheds his old beliefs, his old habits. As the snake grows, it sheds its old skin that is too tight, and confines him overly. When your own concepts are too tight, confine you overly, you do not shed them! You take pills, you visit psychiatrists, and you think there is something wrong with you because you have lost touch with the POWER that is within you that allows you to evolve. That notion has nothing to do from monkeys to man. Leave that to Darwin and his descendants.

(Group shuffling and movement. Several people begin to speak)

FEMALE: Um…A question…

KRIS: Indeed, since you refuse to take your break…

(Group laughter)

FEMALE: Um…(unclear)…about beliefs and what you are touching on now…um…we’re shedding — if we have certain beliefs that confine us, then we shed those and meet new beliefs, and new concepts…I’m having a hard time! My mind is telling me that that’s a belief in itself…it’s getting a little confusing for me. I just wondered if you could clarify for me…

KRIS: Regardless of WHAT you believe, you still need beliefs. You cannot escape them. Even when you leave this body, you will still believe that. It is not that you ARE a belief, but that you are a belief-generating power, so to speak. So you will always believe this. WHAT you believe is an entirely different issue. HOW you apply those beliefs is also another issue. Some people believe that if they demonstrate too much LOVE, something will befall them.

FEMALE: Something will what?

KRIS: Befall them. You hear such notions every day on the radio, on the television, especially in the music industry – how the heart is broken, love is filled with treachery, love HURTS. There are some artists who are some artists, who are perceptive and sing about the glorious joy of loving, but they are few and far between because it seems to make more sense that love hurts, love cheats, love kills.

So it is at an early age that you begin to protect your heart from love, thinking that if you love too much you will be hurt. You love others, so they must have some great power. Your expectations of them suddenly soar high and they seem to disappoint you. So then that love CRUSHES and the cycle repeats. These are all false notions of love. They are manufactured and are directly related to your collective fears about love.

But you are unable to express those because of undue problems. So if you accept that your actions and your thoughts are the result of what you believe. Then it makes sense that obviously when there are too many challenges in your life, the source is to be found in what you believe.

What you believe is not mysterious. It does not need to take 20 years on the shrink’s couch, though the shrink will make you believe that. It certainly keeps his Mistress happy.

(Group laughter)

Now, since beliefs are not cause-effect and remember that everything occurs in the mind, so your beliefs are actually quite reasonable and directly related to the actions which are problematic. Correct?

FEMALE: Yes.

KRIS: Thus, if for instance your relationships prove troublesome and problematic, then all you need do is examine, become conscious, use that stuffing within the ears (Group laughter) and listen to what you tell yourself about relationships. It is a very simple matter. The trick is to listen. Most of you do not listen to the conversations you have with your OWN self on a daily basis and your worst expectations are reflected in the things that you surround yourself with, especially all of the media, the news, the papers, the television, the radio, the music, and everything else. Pay attention to that. They will be signposts. Do you follow?

FEMALE: Yes.

KRIS: They will reflect what you believe. You will even have signs that seem to emphasize over and over again the dangers of loving, the traps it represents, the pain that will follow, the broken hearts, all of these will reflect the beliefs that you hold. Short, sweet, and simple. What is one to do then? Do you mean to lop off all their heads?

Indeed not, but you can begin first by acknowledging, not suppressing, but acknowledging those inner conversations and conflicts that you hold. And then, having recognized them, you can do one of two things: write them down, or become very aware of them and then start to change into the opposite belief. The process will not manifest instantly, but you will quickly begin to flow into that other tap, if you will.

FEMALE: Why doesn’t it happen instantly?

KRIS: Because in YOUR dimension there is a certain period of lag from the way your thoughts are processed into the manifestation of events, conditions and circumstances. Some of the more innocuous ones MAY have an immediate effect, but the BIGGER requests may take a little more time and the more realistic and down to Earth your examination is, the easier it becomes. As we discussed the other week, if you suddenly wish to fall in love with a tall, green, thin, purple-haired Martian, you’ll wait a long time. Do you understand?

(Laughter)

KRIS: What many people forget is that there is indeed a difference between what they want and what they need. Learn to identify the two. You may want a bright red Lamborghini whilst very little may be just as good for you. Do you understand?

FEMALE: Is that a belief too? (Group laughter)

KRIS: There are certain immutable, we will call them “absolutes”, not absolute truths, but absolutes within the parameters of YOUR reality. For instance, you cannot grow another pair of arms and be a four-armed deity. Do you understand? You leave that to the Hindus. (Pause) You can make better use of your own two arms.

So the basic principle is to recognize the beliefs. That is [done] by listening to the conversations and the conflicts that occur within your mind. Then you start the transformation process. [It is] Relatively simple. And it may take more than one dose of change. Sometimes it may take more than one coat of paint to decorate the room. If you are sufficiently patient to do two or three coats in the room, you should be sufficiently patient to understand if a long-standing belief that has never produced positive changes is going to be transformed, then a small amount of patience will be necessary, so that the transformation can take effect. Do you follow?

FEMALE: Yes.

KRIS: Indeed. Now after all that is said and done, go about your daily lives and enjoy yourselves. Otherwise you will putz and fuss around the house and nothing will get done. So the key thing is action. To bemoan the fact that you have negative or limiting beliefs and sit around and say “Woe is me, oh dear,” will bring about no change. In fact, it will OVER emphasize the problem. So action towards a new belief is absolutely necessary, a simple enough recipe. And once you taste the product, you will want to cook other recipes. Now what is the time?

MARK: 8:25

KRIS: Then we strongly suggest that you take a small break and we will return helping to cook more recipes.

(Group laughter)

(Break begins at 8:25 PM and the session resumes shortly afterward.)

[The break was not recorded, but there must have been a conversation regarding global peace.]

KRIS: Since you are so strongly focused upon peace, since you are all completely at peace, it would behoove each and every one of you to teach others how to be calm and focused, and peace-generating individuals. Since you are so free from inner conflict, it would benefit the rest of mankind to bask in your peace-giving lives. Do forgive a hint of sarcasm.

(Group laughter)

MALE: We noticed. (laughter)

KRIS: But indeed, (pause) the only thing that will generate peace upon your planet – and do not look for it tomorrow – but the only thing that will generate what you often call “Global Peace” is when you create loving and peaceful atmosphere within your own existence, each and every one of you.

And that term is more difficult than working sometimes for years for the total disarmament of one nation, never mind three hundred, because it means that you should and need to become aware of the conflicts and the opposing camps and even often the wars that occur within YOUR BEING and within your minds at various times.

Now it does not mean on the other hand that you must paste a look of stupor on your face like a deer in the headlights – devoid of emotion, devoid of critical faculties, but it means that the easier part or path to obtain the peace you want is to eliminate those conflicts and wars that you engage in on a daily basis with your own selves. And the faster you accomplish that task, then the easier it is for each and every one of you to start opening your hearts to others without even explaining what you do, but simply let it be demonstrated by your actions. Thus you will sow seeds whose fruits will feed the nations. Do you follow?

Earlier we suggested the possibility of a meditation that will allow you to access this higher level of intelligences that are also yours to tap into. Do you recall?

MALE: Yes.

KRIS: If you are so disposed, perhaps we can do this at this time. It would require that you sit comfortably – not a slouch – and at best with both your feet on the floor (sounds of shuffling and rearranging of bodies in the room), your back supported as best as possible and that you relax your arms upon your laps. You may even close your hands, but relax the arms and hands on the lap…and take a nice deep abdominal breath, and when you exhale, release the tensions of the day.

[Kris' voice begins to take on a hypnotic, rhythmic, rolling cadence.]

Take another breath and allow all of today’s conflicts to be gathered together and to leave your body, your mind, your thoughts as you exhale. This enables your shoulders to drop, the muscles in your upper, mid, and lower back to soften. Your abdominal muscles loosen up so you can take an even deeper breath…and as you continue to focus upon the sound of our voice, you feel the rhythmic breathing bring you into a state of deep and soulful relaxation so that your body attains the rhythm which recognizes when you are in a state of deep, loving sleep and that your minds are sharp…clear…active.

Through the energy in our voice and in the room, and as your body continuously relaxes…and as your minds become sharper still…imagine in your mind’s eye, pretend that at the back of your head, there is actually a small pyramid-shaped structure that you find yourself drawn towards.

And as the sound of our voice continues to relax you and you use any other ambient sound in the room to deepen your relaxation, you find yourself actually entering the pyramid-like structure… so that you marvel at the grandeur and the shapes you find inside…and as you become even more relaxed…using the sound of our voice combined with any other ambient sounds…you feel yourself rise and be drawn towards the top of the pyramid, the pinnacle of this pyramid…and you realize that within the moment you will actually pass though the opening at the very apex of the pyramid.

Once you pass through this opening you find yourself in a loving, gentle environment, where everything in it comforts and loves…and as you get accustomed to your new environment, you see before you a large bowl of water…it is not necessarily a deep bowl, but it is one whose surface water is as still as a mirror…and as you approach it, you may see your reflection in the still, silvery mirror-like surface of the water…and as you admire your reflection, ask the water to show you many of the other lives that you have spread throughout the known and unknown times, past, present, and future.

You may or may not see changes, be it as it may…but observe what is occurring…and once you see any kind of change, ask the surface of the water to make available to you in your dreams, through your sleep, through your attentiveness, and through your intuitions…that wisdom, that knowledge that you may have cultivated in these other times and places and lives, so that you too may benefit from the additional wisdom and knowledge just as easily as the individual or individuals whose reflections you see in the water may also benefit from the experiences and the knowledge and the wisdom you have gathered in this lifetime…(long pause)…

And now… thank the water…Give it your blessings…and feel yourself leaving this room, this space…so that you gently head back toward the opening in the pyramid-like structure to find yourself back within the pyramid. Give your inner self thanks for the experience you have had…and feel yourself leaving the pyramid structure within your brain…and feel your breath once more, feel the breathing of your body, the lungs expanding and contracting, the blood coursing through your veins and your heart, the muscles in your back and your face, your legs, your feet.

On the count of three, you will open your eyes, you will feel refreshed. One: take a deep breath now! Wiggle the fingers and toes. Two: you are returning fully aware and conscious to the room, and three: you can open your eyes. Take another deep breath, move your legs and your arms. Move your head and your body and return fully conscious to this room and to the self that you know you are now.

So, you are all returned now. What is the time?

MARK: 11:00

KRIS: Then, make good use of this meditation. You may practice it every once in a while. A good time is in the evening if possible, perhaps half an hour before you go to sleep so that you have something afterwards to think about as you drift off to sleep, meaning the possibility of information being shared with you in the dream state.

Whether you recall it or not is actually irrelevant. If you do, that is a good thing, but do not fret if you do not immediately. Many suggestions were offered that the information be shared through your dreams, through your intuitions, through your attentiveness, so that you have many areas of availability for uses for entire blocks of material to be given to you. This also means that your other lives may have as much access to YOUR experiences, so you would want definitely to share with them those fun and loving experiences.

With that in mind, we offer you all many loving blessings, and may your next week be filled with joy and wisdom.

MALE: And spring weather.

KRIS: It will come soon enough. Now then, enjoy your week.

(Session ends.)

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Sea of Thoughts

March 3, 2003

Roll call: Serge (Joseph), Mark (Philip), Lida (Miriam), Andrea (Jarasen), Sheila, Rosemary and several others whose identities are not known at this time.

KRIS: We are to understand that you are persuaded that you still have apes for ancestors. Indeed we do understand the notion can be most difficult to abandon. But overall you have convinced yourselves of the apparent fact of the matter that somewhere along the genetic lines some of these far removed ancestors started to walk differently, come down from the trees and stand out amongst their brethren so that they could assign a committee and discuss the possibility of evolving so that eventually in the far flung future they could sit at a Board of Directors meeting and dress up in suits, monkey or otherwise, and continue making decisions along the same lines.

And it seems to you that since your scientists can show you bones from the ape or skull no bigger than the end of the pinky and can so easily convince that this is the remnant of a distant ancestor and that you are related to this ancestor, you resign yourselves to the apparent authority of that entire class of knowledge that says that they have answers that solve the puzzle of your ancestry and genetic lines.

And even though there are certain similarities between a few of the chromosomes in your DNA structure with apes that it necessarily means that you have to accept that one notion perhaps amongst others that are NOT presented to you. You are told that these are the facts, cold and hard as they may be, but these are facts indeed. And because there is so little opposition to the idea and it seems that all of the facts support the notion, there must be only one conclusion – that you are all descendents of Bozo the Ape.

Yet there are other variances in your chromosomes and your DNA proteins that could just as easily link you up to other life forms on your planet. And these others are not mentioned. Nor is it discussed, for as it is the case that in only a few closed circles at this time that your DNA structure can just as easily demonstrate that your species has always been as it is now known and that you never truly had ancestors from the apes. And that as apes have their own lines of development, so human beings have their own lines of development, that humans with very little variations, have always been humans.

In a cave anthropologists may find an ancient humanoid bone and an ancient ape bone. They may conclude they are part of the same creature, even when there is no concrete evidence to truly tie them together except that they were both in the same burial pit. Therefore they are of the same creature. And such so-called evidence is not questioned, of course, because no one wants to take on the entire established theories. That would make far too much ruckus and you might lose your career, even when there is sufficient evidence to show that at some levels of the ground which would indicate over 350 million years ago human man-made artifacts can be found. But since that does not fit in with the accepted theory, then it cannot be brought to light or discussed, and either it is thrown out or reworked to fit in with the acceptable concepts. This is done far more often than is suspected.

The Sierra Mountain Range along the western American and Canadian seaboard, you call the Rocky Mountains further south are relatively new. But deep within their mounds there are remnants of ancient cultures, and some of these remnants were uncovered during the Gold Rush in the United States. And many of these remnants were eventually relegated to the depths of drawers and cabinets in research laboratories until they were forgotten. But many such remnants were already upon their discovery dated to millions of years before the so-called acceptable age for modern man. And they were found in mine shafts at great depths because when the Rockies and the Sierra Mountain Ranges rose up because of shifts in the crust many cultures and peoples living in those areas were buried deep beneath the mountain ranges. Do you follow?

Now if all of such evidence were properly examined with open minds, yes you can laugh here, it would change, radically change the history of mankind. That may mean that many grants will be dropped, that many research labs will be closed, many notions about evolution will have to be changed and the general public’s trust in many of these investigative sciences and anthropological research, that trust will be lost.

So instead of upsetting the status quo, it is best to forget these things. But your history as human beings reaches far back into time as you know it and not a single one of you has a monkey for an uncle, though some of you may think that some of your uncles are monkeys.

And certainly we understand that if this is discussed with just about anybody, you would be laughed at because all of the evidence they say from the books support that Darwin’s theory of evolution is irrefutable. Yet if it is such hard cold fact, why is it still considered a theory? Why do you not have half-human/half-monkey skeletons? Why do your mothers and other women not occasionally give birth to a monkey?

Now we understand that such statements hardly constitute scientific fact, but our wish is simply to try and get you to use your brain above and beyond the limitations of your apish ancestors.

MARK: How does the first of any species manifest?

KRIS: Interestingly, even in your own continent new species have been found. How do they come about? Since everything originates in the mind, from your smallest symptoms of disease or illness to the most complex and severe displays of crippling and often fatal diseases to the smallest moments of joy and everything else in between, everything originates in the mind. So to you it appears that things follow a very specific path for coming into being. And you do not yet understand your own personalities and how they evolve. So we understand that it is difficult to understand.

But literally new species versus the old species appear in your dimension. Some may do this with a certain degree of cross breeding, but new species are also discovered that are not necessarily related to one another. Yet there seems to be no indication that they existed at some point in the past. And others have been around that have not yet been discovered. So you have various means for life forms to appear on your planet.

But if you were to see in action how forms appear in your world, it would shake you to the very core of your being because you literally appear here and elsewhere. It seems to you, for example, that your bodies are a constant, permanent, static things, that it is fixed in time and space as a permanent structure until such structure no longer furnishes the necessary functions to keep you within it. That is how it appears to your physical senses, your eyes and so on and so forth. But in actuality your physical bodies are composed of atoms and molecules and these you can say vibrate at a very specific frequency. Thus it is possible to say that your bodies appear and disappear at such a rapid rate that the eye cannot detect it.

For instance, your television screens and your computer monitors do not display a constant image but rather have a refresh rate. They flicker at such a rate that it is undetected to the human eye. Do you follow?

Now there is another level at which the atoms and the molecules that compose the cells that compose the organs and the form of your body also does the same thing. It flickers at such a rate that it is not detectable. But it is NOT a constant solid form. You may think that it is, but it is not. As easily as this table, these walls, this floor and ceiling and the chairs and the couches you are sitting on, including your bodies also vibrate and flicker at such a rate that you cannot detect it. Thus you assume that it is solid. And were you to try to walk through the wall or this stone table, you would indeed be surprised, because your assumptions about reality create a specific charge, so to speak, that makes it so that to you it appears as solid. Indeed it does because it is what you assume.

Were you to assume that you could be consciously in more than one place at one time, were this part of your own psychological make up, then you could experience being in more than once place at one time. For the time being you have to do this through the auspices of your unconsciousness mind and you call these other selves of yours in these other places and times as reincarnational selves. You say you have past lives. You may consider the possibility that you have future lives. And you may have probable lives. And you think that this individual life expression that you have now is the measure of all things. But you simply forget that you are definitely also the past life of a future self of yours.

So you are not necessarily the self that you think you are. You are definitely much more.

QUESTION: Are we also the future self of a past self? What if you become aware of someone living on the planet at the same time as you’re living, who could potentially be a parallel self? What would happen if you decided that you wanted to interact with that person?

KRIS: Now the interactions are presently being done through the auspices of your unconscious as if your unconscious is a superbly perfected matrix of communications and connections to an unlimited variety of selves, most of which is kept out of your conscious awareness for obvious reasons so that you can still enjoy your meal in one piece.

Now the arrangements would be made at an unconscious level, and if you did encounter you might find specific resonance with that individual, or you may find the opposite. Remember that you each would still be quite individualized personalities and that you MAY even dislike each other because you are still physical beings.

QUESTION: I became aware of this person, going back 14 or 15 years ago, just by accident. It was about 8 or 9 years since I had been through that area, and at the time I had been through that area I was going through a transition in my life, and I have just wondered it in some way or other, at some level I would have shed a personality aspect that basically decided to manifest there from now on?

KRIS: It is quite conceivable in those terms. There are many portions of your own individual personalities that you may find unsuitable. Where do you put them? Do you hang them up in your personality closet? Do you file them under ‘unwanted personality traits’? What happens to them?

Indeed because just as you are created of unlimited energy, they may very well continue their development even though you have shunned them. These traits or characteristics, some may represent more of your negativity or more of your positivity. They may continue hopefully evolving and understanding as their own paths and this does not diminish in any aspect the individualized personality that you are. So the concept is a valid one, and you do that more than you realize.

So you do have relatives far beyond the scope of your genetic lines. They are psychic offshoots. Do you follow?

(Yes)

And many of these personalities do not necessarily always follow the same gender even as when they were associated with you. So we hope we have blown a few fuses with this.

What is the time?

MARK: 8:50

KRIS: So do you have other questions?

QUESTION: Was there ever a time on earth when there was peace? Was there ever a civilization that was able to achieve peace for a long period of time or permanently?

KRIS: There were many cultures that did live a peaceful and productive existence. Many were agricultural based. Many disappeared, many evolved, many lost their peacefulness, each trying a new experiment in consciousness. But overall in spite of all appearances throughout time, in the many times and lives that your planet has exhibited, we hope you understand that statement, overall there have been more cultures and civilizations whose focus were peaceful cohabitation. Does that answer your question?

QUESTION: For what reason did the civilizations disappear?

KRIS: They may have disappeared from your collective focus, but that does not mean that they have disappeared entirely from the cosmos. You could say they transferred into a reality that best suited their overall needs and to not participate in other experimentations of consciousness where some individuals and groups and collectives of beings deemed it necessary to explore the dichotomies and the polarities between extremes, such as you have in your civilization presently. Do you follow?

But overall we would have to say that the majority of experiments have been peaceful.

QUESTION: So when some people say that there are people in prison who are unable to be rehabilitated, I’m thinking of Paul Bernardo, could he actually become a non-murderer? Have we just not found a way to rehabilitate such people?

KRIS: There are aspects of that personality that never pursued the path as demonstrated here in your world. He has also what you would call past lives where even the thoughts of such acts are unimaginable. You have to consider all the individuals involved in that event. That includes individuals like yourself. Not as direct participants, not even as indirect participants, but where perhaps you might be fearful of someone’s aggressive thoughts that in some way you can have pause and reflection upon hearing about a person who has demonstrated the worst aggressive tendencies your species can manifest. Do you understand?

(Yes)

Enough to help you understand more of what you are and more of what you do not want to be.

QUESTION: Will we always need this physical body?

KRIS: You only need the physical body when you have specific reasons for it. When you see it, for example, you do not need your physical body to roam about forests or space or in your neighbor’s house. Do you understand?

(Yes)

But when it comes to having to learn how your inner thoughts, moods, attitudes, perceptions, feelings generate physical reality, you need the physical body. It is the instrument through which you decide if loving, caring thoughts or thoughts of deep aggression will be your mandate. Do you follow?

QUESTION: Yes. And let’s say that one manages to do that. If one learns how to choose their thoughts and how that affects themselves and their environment, does that mean that they will not need the physical body anymore because they have learned what they came to learn?

KRIS: Some do come and learn. Do understand that this is not handed down by some higher committee, if that were the case no lessons would be learned adequately because the committee would not be able to decide what is needed or not. You choose the lessons you wish to learn for your own purposes, and always in conjunction with those who travel with you.

One of the lessons that many people need to come to terms with is that first of all the physical body, the physical form and the physical experience in any detail is NOT beneath the fact that you are a spiritual, eternal being. In fact the physical body is merely an appearance, so to speak. It enables you to transform thought into matter at a particular level. You have your own separate form quite distinct from the physical body at another level. Do you follow that?

(Yes)

So you always have form. Some of those forms may be made manifest at the physical level. Some may be made manifest at a slightly less than physical level. Other forms may be in realities that you could not grasp at this time because your notion of form, physical form, MUST include two arms, two legs, fingers and toes, nose, ears, eyes, mouth, head, shoulders, torso, buttocks, feet. Do you understand?

Without those notions you would find it most difficult to express physicality, but there are other parts of you that are not as concerned with the notion of form as you consciously imagine. Does that make some sense to you?

QUESTION: Yes. Do we choose this form?

KRIS: When you enter the physical system indeed. It would serve little purpose to enter the physical world and seek to interact with it without a head on your shoulders. Though there are world leaders who have done that.

QUESTION: I mean the other forms, the non-physical forms.

KRIS: Indeed. They are out of the parameters of different realities. So if you wish to go beneath the ocean’s surface, you cannot expect to simply go with your body. You need the suit. You need the headgear. You need the oxygen tank in order to survive in that environment. When you come into physical reality you need the physical body to express within it for those specific purposes.

QUESTION: But does it always have to be specific? Can it be just light or energy?

KRIS: You are also that as well. When you interact with other forms you need that physical body. Do you follow?

QUESTION: Do you choose this type of physical body yourself?

KRIS: You make a decision before you are born. You and your parents at other levels through dream state and unconscious psychological communications determine if their DNA and ancestry line, their whole family history will benefit both of you for your chosen experiences and interactions. So you do not blindly jump into the form of a fetus haphazardly. Those are calculated because you know ahead of time that in general that particular human experience is best tailored to suit your needs.

QUESTION: Even if there is a war and there is a mass number of people being killed? Do they manifest very quickly back into life?

KRIS: Some can reincarnate in very quick cycles, but not everyone wishes to grow to adulthood. Sometimes the burden is too much to bear. Some of you wish to dip quickly into physical reality, perhaps to understand some of the finer points of physical reality. Others may come from long periods of time and choose long-lived lives. And some may come often and they find a great deal of enjoyment at sharing life at that level. And it does not mean they are less evolved. Some would be far more evolved than yourself.

But overall you come to the physical experience because you find it is indeed a wonderful way to express love in very specific ways. And you would not enter the human experience if you did not love it. That may be a hard pill to swallow for some.

MARK: Do we often experiment in non-human capacities?

KRIS: Indeed you do.

QUESTION: While we’re human?

MARK: Or even when we’re not. Is it safe to say that the human condition is just one experiment out of many for us?

KRIS: Indeed. It is also safe to say that out of billions, the human experience is quite unique. That is why so many life forms literally line up for it.

Now what is the time?

MARK: 9:05

KRIS: Indeed, then we will leave you to ponder the mysteries of your existence and the definitions of yourselves, and may you always understand that you are far more than the selves you think you are at any given time. So with that we find it necessary to give you many kinds of lessons to suit all of your needs. And do sleep well.

Sessions ends at 9:05

Kris returns.

KRIS: Now to you it seems that words are carefully meted out one character in front of the other, stitched together to create words much better than Vanna White can do, and that everything is worked out in a very specific sequence, a syntactical sequence. That is the way you understand the tail end of the thinking process. You are literally experiencing the slowest portion of it possible. That then is translated into the verbal communication. If we were to exchange with you, for example, at the speed of thought, because you are unaccustomed to the process, you would not register anything. You would think that there is nothing but static because you do not quite recognize what thinking process is.

When you have a specific thought in your mind’s eye, in that stage on your mind, you think that is that thought, but that is only part of the process. The rapidity of thought far surpasses any of the communication devices you have here on your planet in any of your technologies combined. Your thinking processes actually are slowed down by the neurological activity in your brain because pulses of energy must jump from one synapse to the other, and that creates a slowing down of the process because it starts interacting with the physical. The brain is the physical representation of the mind and the body is the physical representation of the brain.

When things occur at the speed of thought, you could say that it occurs before it occurs, before it occurs, before it occurs, because it exists in a zone that is not related to time as you can understand it in any of its shapes or form. So again it would not register on your brain because you operate at very specific frequencies.

There are instances with individuals whom are more accustomed to playing with altered states where their thought processes and their feeds can be experienced in slowed down or slightly accelerated versions. That is again an altered perception, but not the true thought form. And though there are times when we can and often do speak on things that you have not verbalized, for the most part for you to simply sit here and have us speak endlessly on a variety of topics would eventually prove so boring you would fall asleep. And far be it from us to put you to sleep. We hope we are more interesting than that.

So you yourself need a physical expression, a verbal vocalization of some of your thoughts. Does that make some sense to you?

QUESTION: What dictates the thought that one would receive?

KRIS: You generally attract thoughts that meet your own unique criteria or personality structure, what you believe yourself to be. You would not, as a peace loving individual, start to manifest thoughts of violence or draw them to you because it is a not part of your own make up. So you draw to you those thoughts that are generally in line with your own perception. And these may vary and expand and grow as your mature, so that even though the body itself may show signs of socially acceptable forms of aging, you might still, for example, show a very vibrant and young mind, and that your ideas are always productive, that you are always inquisitive and seek answers. And the more that you rely on what we spoke of earlier about the tools and the resources within you, the more you develop your intuitive capabilities. You may draw towards you other thoughts still in line with your overall beliefs but that lead you to an expanded awareness so that you may become aware of even more of what you are.

So the thought processes as they exist are far and varied and indeed great. But you draw to you those that are more in line with your own make up. Does that help you?

The arena of thought itself is literally endless. You think your universe is either expanding or infinite and you cannot quite imagine the ramifications of infinity. And the universe is merely displaying as best it can the exchanges and the processes of thought throughout all realities because you have your existence in a universe of thought.

We do hope we have not confused you overly. Now we will take our leave of your precious and loving selves and may you experience those very selves fully, and do enjoy your week.

Kris returns a second time.

KRIS: Now if Joseph does not kick you out we will be here all night.

You do live in a veritable ocean of thoughts and you do not own any one, single iota of a thought. However, one of the beautiful aspects of human existence is that you can take a thought and give it an entirely new definition or a slant or revision, a new life, a new expression, because are expressing it as no other living being can through the auspices of your own personality. So you can through that ability provide the potential for an unlimited amount of universes that would stem from that very small core of a thought that you took and breathed life into.

And we are not speaking metaphorically here. We are being very literal. All The Is, or the Universe, expresses itself through each and every one of you because through each and every one of you the Universe finds an unlimited potential for creation above and beyond its own unlimited potentials to create. So you literally have a mechanism, a living spiritual biological mechanism for creating that can never run out of energy. And it will continue creating way beyond your farthest conceptions and the farthest stretches of your imagination. So you are indeed endowed with potential you may or may not be able to grasp, but that still exists within you.

It is said that you are the children of the Universe. What will you do when you grow up? What kind of realities and universe are you going to be creating? What kind are you creating now? What potentials are you developing today in this moment?

Imagine yourselves as being a loving, caring force, a sentient being with potentials that you may not even be able to completely grasp and that even moving your hand from one side of your body to the other so many dimensions and realities have been moved and transformed by that one act that to you is so simple. But with one night’s sleep you have dreamt dreams within which you have given birth to such realities that will go on forever that you quickly lose touch with as you awaken.

With such great and loving power you are only asked to be mindful, conscious, and fun loving. So when you sleep tonight enjoy what you dream about because it may become the reality for another unlimited number of beings.

We promised to let you go, so we will do that now and do sleep peacefully and well.

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