Netjers: 8:45 PM session
November 28, 2002
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois
Transcribed by Mark C. Bukator
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on November 28, 2002
NETJER GROUP CHAT Thursday, November 28, 2002 8:45 PM
MARK: Welcome
N: We are here.
MARK: Thank you for joining us. Would you like some more time to settle in?
N: The process is fine.
MARK: Welcome. Thank you for joining us. I have some friends here tonight who are interested in hearing your teachings and what we can learn from you.
N: We sense their presence.
MARK: Can you tell us a little more about ourselves and our world?
N: You mentioned that you are here to listen to our teachings. We should inform you that if you listen to our teachings you will not hear your own. If you seek the light that others shine, you will not see your own. From our view, you are brighter than many suns and we see many suns. You have within you the wisdom and the knowledge of many worlds, you have the power within your thoughts to also give birth to worlds. You are afraid of that power. You have a light that shine within you that can not be seen by your mortal eyes but others see it. You would do well to listen to the wisdom within you.
MARK: What else can u tell us about our planet?
N: It is one of many who contain life as you know it and as you do not know it.
MARK: What can u tell me about that?
N: If you listen to the wisdom within yourselves you will understand that there is more life within you than you would perhaps care to know about. You live in a world of thought. You are beyond thoughts of yourselves. You think you are mortal and yet the light that exists within you gives life to many other worlds. From where we see you, you are many beings in one and you do not know how that is so you do not pay attention to that
MARK: Do you see that changing? Changing through people like me and through experiences like yourself?
N: The answer is always yes. You always change. How you change depends on you. Each of you here are uncertain what tomorrow brings. Each of you here has forgotten your yesterdays and your pasts and you can not imagine what your tomorrows bring. And yet you marvel at the fact that you are. You do not understand and yet there is within you a spark of knowledge that transcends all ignorance. Your lives are much more than you perceive them to be. With one thought you create countless worlds, right now, in this one of your moments. Many planets move, some are born and others are extinguished within the very cells within your bodies yet you do not hear a single sound within you. You are more part of the universe than you could possibly think. When you but move your arm you have caused ripples that travel throughout known and unknown galaxies. That wisdom is yours.
We suggest you end this contact for now.
Netjers: 5 PM Session
November 28, 2002
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois
Transcribed by Mark C. Bukator
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on November 28, 2002
MARK: Welcome
N: We are here. Your use of consciousness is very focused. We are learning to adapt. You have inquiries?
MARK: Yes. Thank you for taking the time to join us. Can u tell me about early civilizations on earth or on this world?
N: Your collective shows many have come and gone many will come and go always experiments always souls incarnate always souls create u have specifics?
MARK: Kris has told me about a civilization that has colonized the stars.
N: What would u like to know about them?
MARK: How far from earth in our terms have they traveled….as forms?
N: Many have gone different ways. One large group to what you call Dog Star Sirius. There is one planet there that was habitable.
MARK: Was it they that caused it to be non habitable?
N: They took care to not destroy. They visit your world. They do not need your space vehicles any longer. They do use vehicles but not your kind. They come often but not everyday.
MARK: How do we perceive them if we do see them? Do they appear as a being, a form?
N: You see them in disguise. They wear outfits. You sometimes call them fish gods and the type of vehicle permits them underwater shelter. They often teach remnants of other cultures how to rebuild, how to create.
MARK: Another question that I have is, the last time we spoke, you spoke of how we don’t display our abilities. I’d like that to change. How can you enlighten me or help me to maybe teach or just to be able to do it myself? What are those abilities that we are neglecting?
N: You and others create problems you do not create life. You make it difficult to be and to enjoy Your abilities are not unlike ours, but your race feels it is important to be afraid and to kill. You play with toys and from our view often like children with your toy soldiers, armies. It is sometimes difficult to express when you do not understand that you are the ones that form your experience but this will come. Every contact of this sort enables us how to use your local syntax. This will facilitate more contact.
MARK: You talked about symmetry between other worlds and the stars.
N: You are ideas. You are thoughts. You make thoughts. You move your bodies and worlds move. The atoms in your bodies may very well be the suns, the moons and the planets in other realities. Your forms are transparent. Your consciousness is blinded by your fears and you in turn are blind to your consciousness. You think you stand and walk and it appears that way to your eyes or whatever apparatus you use to see. In reality worlds move through you. The suns rise. The moons rise. The tides rise and recede on other worlds and planets because you move. You ARE.
N: We exist in ALL dimensions, all time and all space. Of course, that makes sense. We are an eternal and immortal consciousness.
You think that you are trapped in your forms. If you knew otherwise you might act differently. You think that you are trapped by the past, if you knew that you create it you would have a different past, present and future. How do you think one cell in your body sees you?
MARK: It does not know. It knows that there is something there but doesn’t understand it, just as I don’t understand, yet I know that there is something bigger out there. I am very much a part of that just as that cell is a very important part of me.
N: There is ALWAYS more. When you have an idea perhaps new worlds are given birth. What kind of world do you want to give birth to? Now this contact must close. Short contacts are best.
MARK: Thank you for joining us.
Netjers: First Contact
November 25, 2002
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois
Transcribed by Mark C. Bukator
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on November 25, 2002
© Copyright 2004 Avion Rising Inc.
KRIS:
Meditation:
2 or three deep breaths and as he inhales. My voice will be a further link to consciousness
Soothing tone of voice to trigger trance:
Breathe deeply and listen to the sound of my voice. Allow my voice to be a further link to consciousness.
Inhale and go back in time. Go back in time to a place before there was a time or before there was a place.
Go back to the beginning where there is only all there is.
There are other avenues to consciousness. Avenues that take other paths. These paths also lead back in time to a place where before there was a time or even a place to be. Deep in that place communication is still possible because consciousness exists from that deep place. Allow Joseph to find some rest there and send back information.
END
Signal: It is now time for Joseph to return to his usual focus, his usual time and space and to assume once again the personality that is his and his alone.
On the count of three you will be completely focused in this room again
1 deep breath, slowly move your fingers and toes
2 deep breath, move yours arms and legs. Open your eyes
3 You are now completely focused in this room, in this place, in this time.
THE NETJER: Monday, November 25, 2002 at Barker Avenue, Toronto, ON, Canada
MARK: Hello?
N: We are here.
MARK: Welcome. Thank you for visiting with us. I look forward to speaking…
N: It takes some time to use this body. This is a child experience. Adjustments made. Voice will change.
Your species is not new.
MARK: I am learning that. Fascinating.
N: Your histories are very long and repeated. You were on your planet when it was very young and you will be on it when it will be very old. And there will come a time when it will lose itself. It will be changed like all things. We have seen many worlds take birth, many die. Even the stars, themselves are older than you think. They, the stars, the planets do a dance around each other. They travel though your skies change. Your planet itself is one of many with life and the life on your planet is not unique. But it is interesting and most unique in some ways. It appears and disappears with regularity.
MARK: Can u explain this?
N: The forms on your planet, they come, they go.
MARK: Does this happen on other worlds?
N: Indeed. NOT like here. If you understood the vast amount of time involved that goes by so quickly your own views on yourself would be different, you would not fear what you call death. You would not kill each other thinking that you have destroyed someone. There are worlds in between your worlds and there are doorways into each. We can flow through these and bring you some information.
Your forms are interesting. You use them to deny your abilities instead of displaying your abilities.
MARK: Is that something unique to this world?
N: It is not something to be proud of or a badge of pride. You offer it out of default, instead of power, self assurance and peace. When your species began recovering from a global disaster about 9,750 years ago, when the last ice age began receding, or at least the last big one, about 700 years ago you still had some small ice age but approx. 9,750 yrs ago your species began recovering from that major ice age. There were still teachers left on your world to help feel through transitions. You took over many ancient cultures that had been left behind, ancient cities. Try to understand from your primitive backgrounds things more sophisticated than you knew. You may find at some point that history may repeat itself again. The last ice age, major one, was partially due to mankind’s carelessness. Perhaps we can evolve that at a future date. You have another question?
MARK: The universe itself… Our belief of course is the big bang or universe exploded and will one day retract. Has this happened more than once?
N: What you call big bang is a natural reoccurring process. Look at it from another perspective. You look at it from the inside out. Look at it from the outside in, where you can see planets and solar systems underneath you. You see stars collide. Black holes, other kinds of space phenomenon which you ignore and from that place you might see your planet. See it change before your eyes, see other planets also change. See symmetry that sustains them all. The big bang theory is a poor attempt to explain the release of energies from unknown systems into yours. Just as yours goes into others.
MARK: Of course looking at it from the eternal point of view it just goes on and on, bigger and smaller. Change,.. a state of constant change.
N: And yet your minds create a certain kind of **** (35:20) standards exchange…a consensus, and you believe it gives you meaning but sometimes it takes away your meaning. Now we suggest you begin inverting this process. **
Netjers: Intro by Kris
November 25, 2002
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois
Transcribed by Mark C. Bukator
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on November 25, 2002
PVT MB 2002 11 25 10:00 PM 21:34 MINUTES
Background: This is Kris talking to Mark after our FIRST Contact with the Netjer.
Your first attempt was pickled in your terms. You need some more reassurance in your role and you need to polish up the meditation. You should not adlib into it. If your evening tomorrow is not taken up with too many things, you should try again, simply for you to get a better foot hold into the process.
Now we have suggested in the past that the true source of your being stands outside the flow of time and space, at least time and space as you know and understand it. There are other consciousnesses that actually come from even beyond those constraints and the Netjer is one of them. We have given them that name simply to facilitate our reference system. They are much older even though all things are timeless and eternal there are still some things in the universe that can not be defined as you understand as being defined and they travel. Clouds on your system of reality travel the atmosphere. They may see different landscapes from dry valley riverbeds to oceans to mountains, so on and so forth. There are consciousnesses that also travel they are also some that seed the universes. They themselves sprang from the creative desire of all that there is. They are ancient and the Netjer is one of those.
You could say that they happen to be in your neighborhood. Their vantage point as you have detected is far different. Their understanding of life is much more colourful and varied than you would have ever assumed. They do not see life in the same way that you do. To them all life is precious but not precious as in human terms. To them all energy is loving and compassionate but that might not be so easily conveyed because their understanding of love and compassion is at a different order all together. They have seen entire universes take birth and some die in a way to give birth to new ones. So when a consciousness is witness to such phenomenon and participates in it, it is difficult then for that consciousness to funnel its awareness’s into one unique and VERY tightly squeezed perception or concept of time and space as your species understands it. So if it appears to be somewhat removed it is because it IS removed from your ideas of time and space.
Sort of non-participant?
In a different order, they participate in the sense that they can create but in a vastly different order than you do. You create moment to moment thoughts events and circumstances. They create on a scale unimaginable to you and in so many words they are the other end of the spectrum of your own abilities.
I have in recent months, through learning from you, this visualization of as you tried to explain once, GOD or the highest, HIGHEST level of consciousness or the highest level of the universe (“All There Is”). This visualization starts with one, whereas thoughts make things, this one consciousness has thoughts that create more consciousnesses and those consciousnesses think and therefore create new consciousnesses. This pattern then branches its way down to my level. I am created and then continue the process. My thoughts create things that carry on the process. I picture The Netjer near the top of this chain and myself down near the lower end of the scale.
For example, if you were to take a high powered water gun and aim it at close range at a wall and open fire with such force that the water molecules are dispersed. Then it might give you an inkling of the dispersal range of that type of consciousness simultaneous spread in all directions without losing one iota of one small group. So they are aware of all their small drops, so to speak. With one simple desire they can give birth to worlds. So they are in someway perhaps one approach to defining the Devine concept in your terms and yet there are still more. There are pyramids of consciousness even beyond them that they do not know about but may have heard from others, just as there are pyramids of consciousness that we have heard about other than Netjer and so on.
So there are no levels of consciousness that understands ALL levels of consciousness?
AND if all levels of consciousness were to come together as such they could still not fathom themselves entirely. That should also be written out.
