Beneath the Ice – Antarctica – A Walk with Kris
July 1, 2002
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois
Transcribed by Marcy Singer (Arindel)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on July 1, 2002
© Copyright 2005 Avion Rising Inc.
9:50 pm
KRIS: Perhaps Joseph will be better accustomed to these walks. Now walking can be for the two of you a most pleasant experience and walking in different neighborhoods gives you the opportunity to exchange some of your warm energies with the neighborhood’s energy. So whether you understand or realize the type of exchanges that occur is irrelevant.
MARK: I understand some of it.
KRIS: That way you keep a flow of thoughts and emotional climates. You keep them in motion. Some of your experiences are exchanged for those experiences within whatever community you walk in.
Now this will also imply that you should avoid some neighborhoods such as Jane and Finch and this type of neighborhood relatively laid-back blue collar type where living and livelihood expectations are rather standard within your society. So they do provide with a good base.
(Mark’s notes: Jane and Finch is a rough, crime ridden neighborhood.)
Now earlier you were speaking about whether that bright light in the sky is a star or a satellite. Your society or present civilization has to its discredit divorced itself from a great source of wealth in terms of myth making, or the making of mythologies, as well as almost entirely becoming ignorant of its deeper sources.
This information has taken many years to be reachable by Joseph, so we can discuss it now. This information also is given in part by the source that is possible for you to tap into in a sleeping trance. The source is called Netjer. You could spell it N-E-T-J-E-R, the ancient Egyptian or Kemit, for Egypt is a Greek name for the land of Kemit and they basically held the oldest teachings about your origins.
(Mark’s notes: Kemit translated means the ‘Dark Land’ in reference to the dark soil deposited after the Nile floods.)
Now the stars fascinate your present civilization merely as objects to be observed and discussed through infrared and ultraviolet lenses, picking up x ray radiation, seeing dark matter and so many other things that would literally….we are looking for a word….more or less traumatize your ancient ancestors to so completely trivialize the very sources of your existence. And we say it that way because first of all your solar system and your planet is far, far older than supposed. Geology can only approximate the dates and ages by digging beneath the soil and attempting to give an age, a date to the strata of the soil.
But what they don’t yet fully appreciate is that your planet has had many cataclysmic changes over long periods of time and often what was far beneath the earth was brought to the surface through volcanic eruptions and other natural disasters. So that would mean that what was on top often ends up towards the bottom over and over again.
So these changes have been an ongoing process for billions of years beyond the scientifically accepted notions of age concerning your planet. That also means that your planet has seen a great number of civilizations rise and fall. Cultures have come and gone. Very advanced civilizations have disappeared, only to seed themselves again and again.
Consider the Hawaiian Islands with their volcanoes and how what was often on the surface is buried deep over and over as you build on top and get swallowed up again and again. This process has not stopped for such a length of time as to be completely forgotten. Continents have risen and fallen. Civilizations and cities and cultures have been established, only to be recycled in that way over and over again, more than enough times.
MARK: So in that sense we could be aiming towards another Pangaea as the continents will eventually collide again somewhere else.
KRIS: Now other tectonic plates will rise to the surface, giving a shape and birth to entire new continents, while others will sink. This will not happen in your lifetime. But what has happened in other lifetimes is that there have been on your planet many very advanced civilizations. Some advanced enough to also take to the stars. More advanced than your present civilization.
There have been in the remotest reaches of your planet’s past, civilizations that would put yours to shame, and they, having understood the cyclical manner in which the poles can literally shift, causing tectonic slippage, which has been the cause of the present Antarctic Continent to end up in the South Pole, for underneath its ice which is miles thick, there are remnants of ancient cities and tropical forests. That is not the first time it has happened.
On other occasions, some of these are more ancient civilizations have ventured or had ventured beyond your present knowledge of star travel. Now lest we sound like a science fiction writer, we must admit and tell you that your present culture’s drive to reach for the stars seems almost instinctual, almost like the salmon instinctively returning the stream where they were laid as eggs. Do you understand?
So mankind has that kind of instinctual drive to study and reach for the stars. The planet Venus, which is up on the horizon, has intrigued astronomers since the dawns of your own civilization. Many of the more advanced minds in your culture still have not understood that instinctive drive. So they observe the celestial bodies as nothing more than burning bubbles that refract light. They do not understand that there is more to the mystery than that.
In the ancient past some of the civilizations that far outstrip yours in research and star travel, knowing the cyclical fashions of the earth’s tectonic plates and volcanic eruptions had the foresight to build vessels, capable of colonizing distant luminous bodies.
MARK: Do they still exist out there?
KRIS: Some do, though you might not recognize them as your ancestors. Some of your ancestors need not look like you. Some of these have at times returned here, seeing how things may have changed, how things may have evolved, and your race misunderstands the meaning of the word ‘evolution.’ You think it means coming from an amoeba to a monkey to a human being. There have never been cross species generations. Do you understand?
How come an amoeba has been an amoeba for a million years and no amoeba has ever sprung forth legs.
Now, to get back to this difficult subject, many times your ancestors left this planet as you will one day, leaving behind teachings and understandings that would enable the new cultures to gradually become interested in the stars, just as yours has. There are many, many such things on the surface of your planet.
The Ancient Sumerians have legends of god like beings that came from the stars. The Ancient Egyptians have similar legends, and many other ancient cultures have similar stories, though through time and the retelling, many have become perverted, adulterated and sometimes so completely transformed that they would not be recognized. The Greeks and Ancient Greeks were very good at bastardizing other people’s mythologies to make it more practical for themselves. The Romans did the same and then the Christians did the same that they had learned from the others to take.
As far fetched as it may seem, your people have an ancient connection to the stars that goes much beyond merely looking at pretty lights in the dark sky. Not everyone may agree with this, and of some that may, there may be those who are glamour seeker and UFO hunters. Of these we do not cater to, for there is more here than meets the eye.
MARK: What about Roswell?
KRIS: There have been incidences over time where travelers have come and even been stranded. They do not necessarily all come from your own human ancestry that have taken to the stars in the distant past. There are inter-dimensional corridors, if you wish, and intergalactic conduits that permit traveling back and forth.
Remember that in some ways all time and all space is ever present, so there are other civilizations, other dimensions where this knowledge is not merely theoretical or philosophical or science fictional. But rather having practical scientific fact.
MARK: The Earth’s future is really existing right now?
KRIS: Indeed, as does its past.
MARK: As does its past. I am still trying to wrap my mind around that.
KRIS: What allows you to focus in the present is precisely THAT, your focus, and the limitations that you have imposed upon the mind.
It is said often that science fiction is most interesting because it is a safe venue for great minds to explore this potential, and if you pay attention you will notice that many of the things that some of the great science fiction writers of the last two hundred years have written about, many of these things have come to pass, though in their day it was considered total fantasy.
So today’s science fiction writers also pick up traces of probable or potential futures and by writing of these elements, seed your present to explore potentials such as molecular bi-location and so many others.
Your scientists are able to transport photonic energy from one location to another. Next will come experimentation with biological molecular structure until they can transport more complex life forms. We estimate that perhaps in fifty years’ time human beings in their entirety may be transported from one location to another, at least on your planet’s surface. (We are talking about transporters, as in Star Trek, actually being created.)
Do you have questions, oh Mr. Great Science Fiction Watcher?
MARK: No, not right now.
KRIS: Then we will take our leave. The heat is making it difficult for Joseph to concentrate and makes the voice difficult. But do keep your walks, perhaps twice a week.
MARK: Okay, through different neighborhoods.
KRIS: Indeed. Especially those that feel comfortable to you.
MARK: Okay
(Kris leaves and Mark starts to tell Serge what Kris spoke about. Kris ALWAYS eaves drops on these conversations and will often come back to clarify, correct or add to what Mark has understood from the discussion.)
Kris returns
KRIS: What we said earlier concerning the Antarctic Continent. Its position was quite at a different place. This massive continent was situated near the present Hawaiian Islands.
MARK: I’ve been aware of the theories that obvious polar shifts occurred because of the discovery of a map of the Arctic way underneath the ice that we’re only discovering now because of technology. This map was drawn hundreds if not thousands of years ago. In our minds (inaudible do to traffic) or the wooly mammoth that was discovered in Siberia with fresh flowers in its stomach.
KRIS: Indeed. This map you speak of is based upon even more ancient drawings originally found in some holes deep in the Sumerian Civilization in a temple that has yet to be discovered because your archaeologists and researchers believe that to a large degree they have found almost all there is about these ancient people.
MARK: Is this at the Dead Sea Scrolls sight?
KRIS: This is not at that location. Assyria, Babylonia and Sumeria were one of the few places that did not suffer as great a cataclysm as many others places did. And they had ancient records eventually materialized if you wish in the form of mythologies, which were the original soap operas. Your culture’s soap operas first of all leave much to be desired and are rather empty, in those terms. The ancient mythologies were meant to keep alive this ancient knowledge of your ancestors that eventually became lost.
And these ancient maps still will not be discovered for some time because there is political strife in some of these ancient countries, but they will surface to astonish your researchers because it will show that your planet’s tectonic plates and continents were different and different places, such as the entire Antarctic Continent being almost exactly in the Hawaiian Islands area.
There is a set of islands, we believe you call them the Canary Islands; they are the remnants of an also large continent that had been destroyed through intense volcanic eruptions and flooding. The legends of Atlantis came from that continent, but they too have been distorted, and by the time Plato rendered the stories as was supposedly told him by his teacher, it had lost many of its accuracy and some of it had to be shored up with present day of that time knowledge, geographical location, to give it more of a realistic semblance. Do you understand?
MARK: Yes
KRIS: Eventually through satellite sensors your researchers will uncover the actual layout of structures, man made structures and walls and columns underneath the ice in Antarctica. There are many places on the planet with hidden caches of ancient information, mostly on stone tablets. A few have been uncovered but not properly understood. So eventually the knowledge will resurface, but it will take time and some of it will be covered up.
There will be a time when there will eventually be contact with some of your stellar ancestors.
MARK: In my lifetime?
KRIS: No. Your civilization would presently rather destroy that which changes the status quo. It will take even greater thinkers than you presently have. In fact since the Middle Ages your civilization has barely seen any great thinkers, and before that we have to go back to the time of the Ancient Greeks for truly wondrous thinkers, not only in terms of philosophers but inventors. In fact many of the things that you invent had already been invented to one degree or another perhaps with less technological sophistication but invented nonetheless. At least 100 BC the Greeks had their version of the computer. And the remnants still exist today.
Now we will leave Joseph to you. One point here, do not stop your physical activity. That is why your legs are sore. If you maintain it you will return to a level of functionality you had some time back. They are sore because you are releasing toxins and rebuilding tissue. Make certain that you have sufficient amounts of vitamin C and water and good fresh fruits. Now with that we will leave that to your starry night excursion.
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